Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 614 - Wash Your Stupid Nutz

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Dr Steve, Dr Scott, Lady Diagnosis and Tacie discuss: GLP-1 and addiction Paragoric (opium) Abuse New glioblastoma treatment exercise induced urticaria human allergy scalding the ol' junk BRCA ...and children persistent neck inflammation Please visit: simplyherbals.net/cbd-sinus-rinse (the best he's ever made. Seriously.) instagram.com/weirdmedicine (instagram by ahynesmedia.com!) x.com/weirdmedicine stuff.doctorsteve.com (it's back!) Watch for our new channel "Stitts on Gaming" coming soon! You can play along with us at Megabonanza.com! An actual legit site, never had an issue redeeming "sweepstakes coins" (i.e., real money) We also play at STAKE.US! Get free stuff (crypto site, let me know if you need help getting set up!) Do you love coffee? Jeremy can be a nut sometimes, but his coffee is serious business and seriously great Visit Coffee Brand Coffee from HERE and get a discount on small-batch roasted coffee beans, grinds, and K-cups CHECK OUT THE ROADIE COACH stringed instrument trainer! roadie.doctorsteve.com (the greatest gift for a guitarist or bassist! The robotic tuner!) see it here: stuff.doctorsteve.com/#roadie Also don't forget: Cameo.com/weirdmedicine (Book your old pal right now because he's cheap! "FLUID!") Most importantly! CHECK US OUT ON PATREON!  ALL NEW CONTENT! Robert Kelly, Mark Normand, Jim Norton, Gregg Hughes, Anthony Cumia, Joe DeRosa, Pete Davidson, Geno Bisconte, Cassie Black ("Safe Slut"). Stuff you will never hear on the main show ;-) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:35 You lose. Good day, sir. He's a fucking idiot. If you just read the bio for Dr. Steve, host of Weird Medicine on Sirius XM 103, and made popular by two really comedy shows, Opie and Anthony and Ron and Fez, you would have thought that this guy was a bit of, you know, a clown.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Why can't you give me the... Respect that I'm entitled to! I've got diphtheria crushing my esophagus. I've got Ebola dripping from my nose. I've got the leprosy of the heartbells, exacerbating my infertable woes. I want to take my brain now, blast it with the wave, an ultrasonic, ecographic, and a pulsating shave. I want a magic pill for all my ailments, the health equivalent of citizen cane. And if I don't get it now in the tablet, I think I'm doomed, then I'll have to go insane.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I want a requiem for my disease. So I'm aging Dr. Steve. Dr. Steve. From the world famous cartofelectric network studios in the beautiful downtown OJ City. It's weird medicine, the first and still only uncensored medical show in the history of broadcast radio, now a podcast. I'm Dr. Steve with my little pal, Dr. Scott, the traditional Chinese medicine provider, gives me street cred the whack alternative medicine assholes. Hello, Dr. Scott. Hey, Dr. Steve.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And Lady Diagnosis. Hello, Lady Diagnosis. Hello, Dr. Steve. I'm glad. Good to have you back. And my partner in all things, Tacey. Hello, Tacey. Hello.
Starting point is 00:03:03 This is a show for people who never listened to a medical show on the radio or the internet. You've got a question you're embarrassed to take your regular medical provider. If you can't find an answer anywhere else, give us a call. 347-7-66-4-3-23. That's 347. Pooh-head. Follow us on Weird Medicine. At Weird Medicine or at D.R. Scott, W.M., Twitter or X or whatever the shit that's called.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Visit our website at Dr. Dr. Steve.com for podcast, medical news, and stuff you can buy. Most importantly, we're not your medical providers. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt. Don't act on anything you hear on this show without talking it over with your health care provider. All right, very good. Check out stuff.com. That's stuff.com.
Starting point is 00:03:41 That's stuff.com. If you know someone who plays a stringed instrument, get them a rody robotic tuner. You can see that at stuff. Dotter Steve.com or you can just go straight to rowdy, Rode, R-A-D-I-E, dot Dr. Steve.com, and they also have a thing called the Rody Coach, which will teach somebody how to play their instruments. So if you know somebody that's bought themselves guitar and it's just sitting there, like a lump because they don't know what to do with that, get them a Rody coach.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So that's Rody. Dot, dot, Dr. Steve.com. Check out Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. And check out our Patreon. Patreon.com slash weird medicine. I'm just putting everything up there, just the kitchen sink. You'll find something there that you like. And we can chat with each other.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You can ask questions there. Every bit of video content that I ever make, including our shorts, normal world appearances and that kind of stuff, all show up on Patreon.com slash weird medicine. And then if you want me to say fluid to your mama or whatever, I'll do it at cameo.com slash weird medicine. It's dirt cheap, unless you're a business, and that's $250. And that's the minimum that they'll let you charge. It's like I would charge $10 to just, you know, do some, not necessarily endorse something I don't know, but just to say, yeah, check out, you know, Joe Smith's podcast or whatever. But the minimum you can charge is $2.50, so I'll never. Why would anybody pay me to do that?
Starting point is 00:05:13 You do have a good voice, Dr. St. Yeah, but they don't, I don't have any credibility when it comes to doing this stuff. That is true. All right. She has a voice. And don't forget Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. Simplyherbils.net tis the season for nasal congestion. All things.
Starting point is 00:05:34 All things nasal congestion. And check me out at Normal World at YouTube.com slash at Normal World or on Blaze TV. And we've got the Ask Dr. Steve segments and some they let me act a little bit. I actually have an IMDB page now, Tase. I've had one for years. I know. That's true. That's true. Tacey's had an IMDB page for a video game, which I don't want to docks her, but she's had one much longer than that. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:06:10 Well, Internet Movie Database has when people act in something, and for some reason it has video games in it, too. you get an entry on there. And so Tacey had one because Lazzlow, you know, wanted, he said, do you know anybody that sounds real country? And I'm like, yep, I surely do. And I really wanted to get Tacey's mom in there, but I was afraid that she just couldn't take direction. She'd get all flustered and stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So, well, you want me to say what? You know, just you can imagine. Yeah. So we had Tacey and her friend Wendy and a couple other people. And so, yeah, she's had this stupid IMDP page I was jealous of. And then all of a sudden I was just checking it one day. And mine popped up. And there's like Dr. Steve, cult leader.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Oh, yeah. And Dr. Steve, you know, psychiatrist and stuff like that. So, yeah, it was kind of fun. Nutcase. Yeah, Dr. Steve, it did it. Anyway, it's normal world. All right. Tacey, you got some topics today?
Starting point is 00:07:19 I sure do. All right. Cool. It's Tacey's time of topics. A time for Tacey to discuss topics of the day. Not to be confused with topic time with Harrison Young, which is copyrighted by Harrison Young and Area 58 Public Access. And now, here's Tacey. Well, hello.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Hello. FDA is to finally ban controversial ingredient in popular decongestance. Uh-oh. here we go. Sudafed, mucenex, Benadryl, Advo, Tylenol, VIX, and Dimetap. These popular brand names appear on oral decongestants that are staples of the cold and flu aisle in American drugstores. And yet many contain an ingredient that does not work as promised. Phenalephrin.
Starting point is 00:08:03 The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has now proposed in order to remove oral phenolephrine from every single cold cough allergy, broncholidolator, and anti-asmatic drug product. available today. Roughly four-fifths of all oral decongestants. Yeah, so they'll say, they say on their website, it's the FDA's rule to ensure that drugs are safe and effective. Yes. Fenal effron's been in this shit ever since pseudofed. You know, the druggies found out that they could make methamphetamine out of sudofad,
Starting point is 00:08:37 and it got put behind the counter. So all the over-the-counter stuff has phenylaphrin in it. I agree with this, because if you don't have pseudofed, in a cold medicine and you're really sick. That phenylephrine doesn't do shit. Yeah. It really doesn't. Yeah, I'm always for a decongestant, always rather than taking a pill that goes to the tip of my toes and, you know, my fingers and stuff, just to get to my nose, I just use topical stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:11 either Dr. Scott's nasal spray, or I use oxymotaziline, which is the generic or the active ingredient in Afrin and all those other sort of spray decongestants. That stuff is great. The problem is that if you use it over and over and over again, you'll get addicted to it. And it's really addicted is not the right word. You end up getting rebound nasal congestion. So when it wears off, those tissues re-expand and they overshoot, and now you have even worse nasal congestion. That happened to me. So did you, did it?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Mm-hmm. Were you habituated to that stuff for a while? Yes. Yes, I was. It was when I was pregnant. Oh, yeah. Well, you're fluid overloaded then anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:58 It was awful. So, well, my ex, she used to use like two or three of those Afrin bottles a day. A whole bottle? Yeah, she just, psh, just constantly. She was so habituated to it. Yikes. It was really funny. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It took a couple of days of just not doing it. Yeah. And just not breathing. When your nose is that congested, it's almost like you can't resist spraying that stuff up there. I've had it where I could feel the turbinate. So those are sort of the active tissues in there, just smashed up against my nasal septum. And it's just unbelievably uncomfortable. And you can't eat if you can't breathe through your nose.
Starting point is 00:10:36 because I just gasp because I'm like trying to eat and that I can't breathe and I'm you know you can't taste anything it sucks so good got to be a mouth breather for a couple of days to get over it there actually if you do get
Starting point is 00:10:50 habituated to oxymataziline what we used to use were two things the breathe right nasal strips combined with the atrovent nasal spray it has epitropium in it And it is non-habit forming. And although it's mostly decreases mucus production, it has some decongestine activity as well.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And that would help to get people off of this. And Tacey's right. It only takes a few days, and then you're back to normal again. But it does suck. It doesn't say when this stuff will be off the market. Well, it's a proposed order. Okay. So what it is is only the final order affects which products can be marketed.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So they are asking for comments on this right now. Now, I was looking, I was going to look at PubMed. So PubMed.gov, oh, no, that's a government website. No, it's the repository of the National Library of Medicine. Calm down. So I've had people, I've said, look, let me pull up this article from PubMed.gov. And they're like, well, I don't trust that. It's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It's not. They're not affiliated with those that you don't trust. So let's see. Okay, so phenylaphrin and inhaled nitric oxide in adult respiratory distress syndrome, when or two better than one, and there's no abstract, so I have no idea what the answer of that is. Let's see here. Here, the phenylaphrin saga, a drug dilemma, also no abstract. the impact of hyperoxy and phenyl-ephyron on cerebral oxygenation.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Okay, let's see about this. So it says patients undergoing craniotomy, in other words, brain surgery, under general anesthesia, brain tissue oxygen tension increased with high inspiratory oxygen fraction. There you go, of course, but remained unchanged after a bolus dose of phenyloafrin. So in other words, the phenylophrine didn't help there either. So, yeah, here we go. Now, this is from ophthalmology 1980. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:13:09 This is probably where this came from. Phenalaphrin is a potent, effective, and relatively safe drug with few ocular side effects. Side effects from topical installation are uncommon. So back in the 80s, the common wisdom was that this stuff was safe and effective, and that's why I got stuck in, say, They, you know, over-the-counter decongestants when Sudafed went behind the counter. Because nobody wants to sign a registry just to buy a nasal decongestine. But anyway, if you have short-term nasal congestion and you don't want to mess with fendril aphrine
Starting point is 00:13:50 because it's been demonstrated really not to be very effective and the risks outweigh the benefits, Try the aphrine. Just don't use it three times a day every day for two weeks and because you will get habituated to it. We used to recommend four days max. And if you can use it just before you go to bed, that's even better. All right, good one, Tase. Good one, Tase.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Next. Okay. Did you have another one? Yeah. I have one. GLP1 medications may reduce. risk of overdose? Okay, so what's the deal on that? What you might know as the newest craze of weight loss drugs could help with substance abuse. GLP-1 medications like Ozympic and Wagovi
Starting point is 00:14:38 mimic natural hormones in the body that regulate blood sugar and insulin levels. They're used to treat top two diabetes and obesity. These drugs curb the craving for high-calorie food, helping users eat less. A new study published in the journal, Addiction, showed that it could also be used to reduce cravings for opioids and alcohol for those struggling with substance abuses. Really? That's surprising. Because these receptors exist in different parts of the body like the brain. There may be some options or possibilities in the future to use them for other types of conditions. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah, that's interesting. That's a surprising one to me. I mean, just because it makes you stop eating, it's not because it works on pain and pleasure. I would say pleasure center somehow. Yeah, I must. Well, so many drugs, people go well, why are you using, oh, I don't know, this isn't a good example, methadone for pain when they use it to get people off drugs. That's kind of a different situation. But lots of medicines have different activities.
Starting point is 00:15:48 For example, aspirin is great for arthritis pain, but also helps to prevent a heart attack and stroke. and prevents colon cancer and some people who are at high risk. So, you know, all these three completely different things. So lots of medications have different activity. The study did not prove these drugs directly lowered the risks of opioid overdose and alcohol intoxication, but that it seemed to help. Those who took the drug had a 40% lower chance of overdosing on opioids and a 50% lower chance of getting drunk compared to those who did not take the medication.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So they will have to redo those studies with that as the primary endpoint and do double-blind placebo-controlled study before they can market it. They do not have approval. Unless maybe it has something to do with the delayed gastric emptying of the, or breaking down the pills, breaking down the alcohol. It just sits in your stomach for longer. Maybe, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah, it's kind of bizarre. We've had a lot of stories about those GLP's recently. Yeah, there. The one from last week dealt with surgical risk. And we realized that it's because of delayed gastric emptying. People can be what we call NPO after midnight. In other words, not taking medication or oral intake after midnight and still go in and have a full stomach and end up aspirating in the operating suite.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So nobody wants that. That's bad. Yeah. So my next article is about paragoric. Yes, I really wanted you to do this one. And has it been banned by the Food and Drug Administration? The answer, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:29 All right. Yeah, go ahead. This person is saying that they remember using this product occasionally as a teenager back in the 1960s, and it was a miracle drug for stopping diarrhea. Yeah. And it was available over the counter. Mothers would rub a little on their teething babies' gums to decrease their pain. Teathing pain. They're pain, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Nowadays, I do not see Paragoric mentioned on any schedule of drugs. Many pharmacists have never heard of it. I don't know if that's true because I've heard of it. Although it appears to be available in other countries, I don't understand why this drug that helps so many people is taken off the market. It certainly couldn't be any more addictive than codeine, which is still wildly available. Right. I'm 74 now.
Starting point is 00:18:15 I would like to have some Paragoric on hand when I get diarrhea. Okay, I see. And the answer... This is one of those Q&A things. Yes. The answer is that Paragoric is a derivative of opium, sometimes referred to as a camphorated tincture of opium. Correct. It's an extract of opium along with some other traditional ingredients like anise oil, benzzoic acid.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Is that right? That's why it tastes like licorice. I always thought that opium just tasted like... licorish, but they actually put anise in the paragoric, so they make it taste like licorish. Interesting. And it's in a base of
Starting point is 00:18:58 alcohol and water, and because of abuse, it was made a controlled substance. Of course. It's opium. Although manufacturing stopped briefly, it is still available, and I suppose your pharmacist would get it if your physician ordered it. However, there are more effective and safer drugs for
Starting point is 00:19:14 diarrhea, like loparamide and diphymed. diphenoxylate, which also both stimulate the mu-opioid receptor. And the other one has atropine in it. Oral atropine can cause dry mouth, delirium, disequilibrium. It can cause bladder outflow obstruction. So I'm not a fan of that. Who is that?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Who's answering these questions? It's Dr. Roach? Is it an actual doctor? or are they just playing one on TV? Dr. Keith Roach to Your Health. And it's published in the Detroit News. Okay. So, yeah, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I completely agree with that, that those are necessarily safer and more effective. The thing about diarrhea is you need to know what you're treating. Why do you have it? Right. And just because you have loose stool shouldn't necessarily be taking medication. For example, if you have,
Starting point is 00:20:16 Shigella or Salmonella, they recommend that you don't slow down your bowel movements because you're just trapping the bacteria in your colon and allowing them to breed and multiply even faster than they already did. And then some people have things like malabsorption, and they take loparamide, which they can buy over the counter. It's sold as Emodium, and they'll buy that, and they'll slow down their stool. but they're not, they don't realize they're not treating the underlying problem, which is the malabsorption. In other words, they're not able to absorb fat, and they continue to lose weight, and they lose essential fatty acids and fat soluble vitamins and all kinds of shit.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So, I think that right, well, thank you. So, but the, I think the advice that I would have given had I been writing that thing is, yeah, Paragoric. is fine, but don't just treat diarrhea without knowing what the cause is. You know, transient, short-lived diarrhea, totally fine. I don't really care what you use for that. But if it's just going on and on and on, you've got to do something about it and get it worked up. Okay. Now, Paragoric, I used to prescribe it in primary care all the time,
Starting point is 00:21:42 and then what I found out what was going on is that you get a little one-ounce bottle of this stuff. Remember we used it on our kids' teeth when they were teething. Maybe that's how I know about it. Well, we used it for like a day and you would take the bottle and just tip it over onto your finger and then take your finger and rub it on their gums. And then, you know, two days later, their teething pain is better or, you know, a week later, whatever. And now you've got a bottle that has an ounce
Starting point is 00:22:09 minus one one hundredth of an ounce. So you basically have an ounce of tincture of opium. And what people were doing is they were dipping joints and dipping cigarettes in these and then putting them in the dehydrator or putting it in the oven at low like 170 or something and and then when you smoke it you're smoking opium in in upper east Tennessee oh my goodness so it's crazy so um that's the deal with with paragoric i've seen people put it and i'm not advocating this i'm just saying this is what i've seen people do uh put it like on a uh a a place or a metal plate and put it in the oven
Starting point is 00:22:49 and just sort of smear it on there and then when it dries out, scraping it, and then smoking that. And then they're actually smoking, literally smoking open. Sounds like a less better option. No, that's not a good option, Dr. Scott. No. That's a terrible idea.
Starting point is 00:23:04 It's because you're an idiot. Is there a group for these people that want to quit? They meet in the church basement? Yeah, they are groups. Well, then they run out of it. If you keep going, well, I need more of that Paragoric, my kids' teeth and paint. I mean for the teeth and drops. It's real bad, don't you know?
Starting point is 00:23:22 It's like, you know, that's bullshit. No one ever needs more than one of those little tiny bottles of Garagoric. So that's a self-limited thing anyway. That's crazy. Those are all my stories. Well, thank you very much. You'll get a bell for those. I've got a bell, Scott, so screw you.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, this is what Scott gets. I have a story. A UK man's aggressive brain tumor was cut down in size by 50% following a first of its kind treatment for a type of cancer that typically kills patients within 18 months. So that would be glioblastoma. And so this guy had, he was an engineer. He was diagnosed with glioblastoma back in December of 2023. And what they did was they removed as much of the tumor. as they could surgically.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And then they implanted a tiny advice called an OMAIRA reservoir right under his scalp. So what that is is it's a, it's like a, I don't know, like a little balloon that you can inject stuff into. And then it will excrete that through a tube into the surrounding area. Okay. So that's what an, so they put this Omaia reservoir in. And after they placed it, they injected low levels of radioactivity directly. into the tumor once a week for six weeks.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And it was aimed at killing cancer cells while leaving the healthy tissue on harm because regular brain tissue is relatively resistant to radiation and the glioblastoma cells are less so. And brain scans review that they reviewed revealed that his tumor reduced in size by 50% at the end of his six-week treatment. And that's pretty incredible because now, Now, what we want to see is if they do a bunch of these, we want to see if survival is increased. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Because it could be that you have more adverse events with this, or you have other issues that make this not a viable treatment, but right now it looks pretty good. And he says, you know, he said before he saw the remarkable results, it would be wonderful. This treatment helps me. And if it doesn't, it doesn't. It may benefit someone else down the line. So that's the right attitude to have. you do an experimental treatment like this. You're always advancing medical knowledge.
Starting point is 00:25:48 All right. They're going to have 40 patients treated in phase one of the trial over the next year. So we'll keep you informed on that. Gleoblastoma is one of those. I hate that one. That one is devastating because
Starting point is 00:26:03 at some point it affects the person, not just their body because it's in the brain. And I would like a really good target. to defeat because it's hard to get medicine there because a lot of the medicine won't cross the blood brain barrier, you know. And you don't want to kill other brain tissues, so you're killing living human cells inside a living human cell or, you know, in a living human body. And part of it is, or substantially, or all of it in this case, is in the brain, which makes it even more difficult.
Starting point is 00:26:40 So it's a tough one. So good for them. I like the idea. All right. Questions, comments? Lady diagnosis, you got anything? I just have a question. I have a friend that has an issue with, she's allergic to exercise. Oh, yeah. That's real. So when she sweats, she gets hives and breaks out immediately and then itches like crazy. But it doesn't last long. I don't know how long, maybe half hour, hour, two hours.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Sure. And there's no explanation, is there? There is. Sure, there is. Or cure? Is there a cure? She, well, there's treatment. She has exercised induced urticaria. This is also known as colonergic urticaria. It's rare. You know who has that, Steve?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Well, who's that? Liam's fiancé. What? Mm-hmm. Really? Mm-hmm. Well, she was a cheerleader. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Okay. All right. There you go. Well, every once in a while, exercise can trigger a more severe reaction called exercise-induced anaphylaxis. And that's a rough one because, you know, you exercise and then you feel short of breath because you're exercised. But actually what's happening is your lungs are shutting down and you don't get better. In a matter of fact, it can be fatal.
Starting point is 00:27:57 So this just came on one day. She was in her 20s. Right. This happens. Oh, okay. Yep. So no cause. Nope.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Hmm. Interesting. Nope. So the treatment of exercise-induced urticaria involves the avoidance of exercise. Oh, I wish I had that, man. All right. Now, because exercise is good for you, that's a crappy answer. So you can use things like fexophenidine before you.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That's Allegra, non-drowsy antihistamine. I'm going to also say that mass cell stabilizers like the leukotriene inhibitors like Montilucast or Singular would be helpful. And I know that they've been proposed, but they need studies to establish their effectiveness in this. The problem is, again, it's a rare disease, but I would do that. And then they say avoiding food for four to six hours prior to exercise has been mentioned across the literature as a way to help prevent food. an exercise-induced ureter carrier. So some people only have the hives when they exercise if they have food in their stomach. Do you know if your friend, does she get the hives only if she sweats?
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah, yeah. I was going to say, you know, exercising but just not getting to the point of getting your body too hot. Lots of little sessions, I guess. Well, yeah, you can do just weight training and do just steady. I mean, yeah, she could see what the threshold is. But it's probably not the sweating. it's the actual exercise, but it could be the sweat. She may be allergic to her own sweat or something.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But then when she's hot, she should be having this, not just when she's exerting herself, because she sweat other times, you know. So this person in this study that I'm looking at, gradual modification of exercise was an effective treatment. And they work their way back and tolerate low intensity exercise. the use of antihistamines in this person. But I would want to be able to do what the hell I want to do, so I would try Singular if it were me first. And Moni Lukast has its own issues with adverse effects, but it is generally safe and well tolerated by people who can tolerate it.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Those that can't, it's pretty outstanding how bad the adverse reactions can be. But that's rare. I've only really seen one case of that, and I was in a friend of ours kid. All right? Yes, thank you. So continuing on allergies here, Amanda from the fluid family, has a good question. Amanda, five by five. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:50 She's got a cat that since she's moved to Florida has developed allergies. And she went in and had her cat. Wait, she's developed allergies to the cat or the cat has. The cat is an increase in allergies. Okay. It takes the cat in for testing, and I guess the cat is now allergic to humans. What? That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Isn't it awful? That's because, you know, when you're allergic to a cat, you're not allergic to the cat. You're allergic to their dander. So wash your hair more often. Maybe that's a dander. Maybe, yeah. A few more showers or a little, what is it, some gold bond powder on your. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:32 But she was asking if humans can actually be allergic to humans. And I guess the quick... That's a good question. I'm just going to tell you've seen people allergic to things you would never think they would be allergic to. Right. You can be allergic to sunlight. To anything, yeah, to anything. We've had people on this show that were allergic to sunlight.
Starting point is 00:31:52 If they went outside, they started sneezing and maybe got hives or itchy. Well, shoot, yeah. In lupus, you know, you're going to be sensitive to... Well, that's a sun sensitivity where the skin... actually is truly sensitive to ultraviolet. It's not an immediate type hypersensitivity reaction. It's just their skin is sensitized. It burns and, you know, turns red more easily.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But this is what we're actually talking about an IGE mediated allergy. Histamine is released. You know, the cells degranulate and all of a sudden the histamine and all those other active substances are released. and you get, you know, skin swelling and redness and itching, and then you get running of the eyes and nose and all that and stuff too. I had a friend who was allergic to food. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah, no, there's some people are allergic to cold drinks. Some people are allergic to hot drinks. Some people are allergic to their stomach being full. One person can be allergic to another. It's extremely rare. There's one that, well, okay, this doesn't really, count, but demographism is where you
Starting point is 00:33:04 scratch your skin and you get a hive there. There's this thing called people allergic to me, and that someone claims their body, odor causes allergy-like reactions in others, but I think that's just because they just smell bad. I'm with you on that one.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah. Now, auto-allergy, there are people allergic to parts of themselves, and those are people who like have sex allergy. So when they ejaculate, When the semen touches the mucous membrane of the urethra, it triggers an allergic reaction. They can feel really sick. And they'll have malays and, you know, they can have hives and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:33:45 As long as it stays inside, the seminal vesicles and the prostate doesn't seem to bother them. It's just when it's released, which is crazy. And then there's this thing called Mass Cell Activation Syndrome. I had a friend in medical school who had that. We went skiing, and she would just faint out of nowhere, and her blood pressure would drop. And it causes people to be allergic to almost everything, including the scent of a loved one sometimes. So it's just where they're massed cells, which are the cells that have these globules of histamine and all these other sort of vasoactive substances in them. They just release their substances for no reason.
Starting point is 00:34:25 They've got a hair trigger. They're supposed to only do it under certain circumstances. When they meet certain allergens from the outside, certain foreign bodies, stuff like that. But in some people, they just go, okay, well, fuck it. And they just give up the ghost. And now you've got these people having these horrible allergic reactions to most everything. So is there something that triggers these? Triggles?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Triggles these, triggers these automatically? Or is it something that builds up in your body? Nobody knows. You have no clue. You get exposed to something that the body misrecognizes. as foreign, and then the next thing you know, you're off to the races. So, for example, I guess an example would be, oh, like diabetes type 1, the immune system attacks the islet cells, or as they say in China, according to Dr. Scott, the islet cells.
Starting point is 00:35:18 It attacks those. And what they think it is is maybe you're exposed to a bacterium or a virus that has some protein on the surface that when the body attacks that, it also looks like a protein on the surface of the islet cells. And so those antibodies are running around looking for targets and they've killed all the viruses. Well, hell, there's a bunch of targets over here and they're all your own eyelid cells and the immune system just kills them.
Starting point is 00:35:49 So you can think of your own analogies that go with that, but it's just basically a deflection. The immune system attacks one invader, and then when it's done, it sees other targets inside the body that it shouldn't have seen, but it's just what happened. And, you know, the receptors on the surface of that virus had receptors that looked like receptors on the isle cell, and so now it goes and kills it. Think of the Opium Anthony Forum. The pests were there to support the Opian Anthony Army, and all of a sudden when Opian Anthony went away, they had nowhere else to go, so they attacked the host.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And they started attacking Opie and Anthony and Patrick Tomlinson and a bunch of other people because they just, you know, the activity was there just didn't have a target anymore. Right? Does that make sense? No. No? Really? I don't know how those people are.
Starting point is 00:36:54 What doesn't matter? But can you figure it out from the context? I can. I can. Yes. Like a fan base. I got it, Dr. Steve. A fan base when the thing that they're a fan of goes away, if they were, if that fan base was there to kind of fuck with other radio shows and stuff, which they were, they shut down Facebook pages of rival radio shows and all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:15 When the sort of directing force goes away, then here's it. They need a new target. Think of mercenaries. If you hire a bunch of mercenaries for something, then you just don't pay them. They're going to turn on it. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:40:20 Number one thing, don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. Very good. Thank you, my friend. Let's see what we got here. This one is called Wash Your Stupid Nuts, but I think this is, okay. Now, what this is is a reaction to something Dr. Scott. said nine years ago, so you're going to hold your feet to the fire. Yeah, if I just want to tell Dr. Scott that it was hilarious when he told the guy
Starting point is 00:40:48 that had a urination smelling problem, then all he needed to do is wash his nuts. I don't know, I'd laugh for five minutes because the irony of it, because two minutes before that, he said that he wasn't funny. But anyway, wash your nuts if you're, if you're piss smells. That's fantastic. I will do that. Right, lady diagnoses the next time your piss smells, wash your nuts. I'm washing my nuts.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I'm full of great ideas, but I'm telling you. You're so smart. That's a ramble's smart. You're so smart. He's a fart smeller. I mean, smart feller. That's hilarious. Good one, Dr. Scarlett.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Hi, Dr. Steve. First of all, let me say how much I love your show. Oh, thank you. I also have a question. I have been a smoker for a person. about seven years now. Okay. And I've just recently quit, but I am still smoking a vaporizer.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah. It's completely helped me stop smoking cigarettes. I was smoking probably about a pack a day, and now I'm not really smoking cigarettes at all. But my question was, how do you feel about the vaporizers? Because I don't know. I assume they're better than cigarettes. Yes. But I don't know all of the health precautions maybe.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Yeah, no, it's a good. Well, the bad thing is they're more accepted so you can do it anywhere. Yeah, and a lot of places now are like no vaping. But I always find it very humorous when we see people just going down the road and you see these giant clouds. Giant clouds of smoke. And Liam and Beck used to, when we went to Asheville, which there are quite a few. hipsters in Asheville. Surprise, surprise. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:42:39 One or two. And there was this guy, and they still talk about him, and he had this vape pen, and he was like a hippie Joe guy, and he had one white glove and all this stuff. And he was just sitting out there acting cool for wanting people to notice him. And he had this vape pen, I swear, it looked like a clarinet. I mean, it had all these contraptions. It was black and silver and all this stuff. And I remember us just going looking at him and just taking a toot off of this thing and this giant clouds of smoke
Starting point is 00:43:13 or steam or vape or whatever and you know that can't be good for you cannot be and he was just like I think I'll take a toot off of my vape and then and the boys just made fun of him because it was obvious
Starting point is 00:43:31 he was just there with his cool vape pen to just draw attention to himself But it is, listen, it's undoubtedly safer than smoking. As long as you're not using one of those old knockoff vape pens that had vitamin E in it that was causing people to have permanent lung damage. And they sell a nicotine inhaler. Nicotrol or Nicarat or one of those sells a nicotine inhaler. So, and it's designed to help people get off smoking. That is prescription strength, and it is reimbursable by your insurance.
Starting point is 00:44:12 So that might be something for people to think about. For those that just can't stomach the thought of switching from smoking to gum. You know, they have that thing in their hand. Tacey used to smoke. Lady diagnosis, did you ever smoke? Never. Okay, well, whatever. We smoked three packs a day.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I smoked three packs a day. Loser. Tacey smoked a pack a day at least at one point. Yeah. And just having that thing in your hand and just the whole concept of putting something to your mouth and inhaling it. And Dr. Scott's got different sort of thoughts about tobacco addiction because he put those squibs. Did you do squibs or did you do the actual dip? Oh, hell.
Starting point is 00:44:53 No, I did it all. I did all. Pinch between the cheek and gum. Yeah, little twigs cheek and gum. I would never put something in my mouth that looked like that when it came out. Because it just looks like you're shitting into. a Coke cup. It was wonderful.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Then a big old chew tobacco sometimes. Oh, my gosh. Nope. Ain't nothing like it. Nope. That was not. Thank God. When I was in high school, we had a fraternity.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And the induction to the fraternity was you had to do this big chaw, this big thing of chaw, and hold it in your mouth for like 15 minutes. That's terrible. And that's why. That's vomited. The kids are mean. Cured all of us of every day. doing that's going to make your vomit for sure the nicotine in there you know with the
Starting point is 00:45:38 copenegas what i'd shoot you know what i like the most and they have little fiberglass in that thing that actually rubs your your lip raw and you get a buzz of nicotine oh because it oh my gosh really it's unbelievable that's not good for you no it's terrible that's awful that's why i love it's well so um the vape pens just have nicotine and vapor in them the cigarettes have 10,000 toxic things in them including carbon monoxide and stuff like that. The tar causes the cancer. The nicotine promotes its growth.
Starting point is 00:46:11 So nicotine alone still is not safe, but it is safer. And I'm okay with people using a vape pen for six weeks or eight weeks to get off of smoking. But then you've got to get off of that. Rich Voss got off of smoking X number of years ago. It was a long time ago. But he's still addicted to. to the gum, the nicotine gum. He just, he can't break it.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Or he won't break it or doesn't want to, whatever it is. He's still using the nicotine gum. Can I ask you a question about those vape pins? Are they, they're not as hot, are they as far on your, like, smoking cigarettes? So that's also part of it, too, not being so hot. Well, you're not combusting, so you're not making carbon monoxide and other sort of products of combustion, which are known to be cancer-inducing now. Tacey, who's that person we like, Teresa Laser L.A. or something like that.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And all she does is test vape pens. Yeah, her name is Teresa Liza, oh, boy, Lars O'Lerry, I think. And she does these reviews, and she's one of my favorite people on the Internet right now. So we spent how many hours watching her at the beach with everybody? I mean, hours and hours. It was very entertaining. Yeah, so let's see here. Okay, she's now, Teresa is going to.
Starting point is 00:47:45 It's up, and I got a review for you. What is up, and I got a review for you guys? I'm going to do a review on the box air bar, and the flavor is orange shake. Now, here she goes. now she's taking a giant a big tooth it's nice and smooth yep
Starting point is 00:48:07 it's nice and sweet and it tastes like an orange because she'll always say it's it tastes like an orange shake there you go because it's called
Starting point is 00:48:27 orange shake she is she is my favorite it. She's so her YouTube channel is basically her testing all these different vape pens. And she loves them all. Did you ever hear her say, I don't like this one? No, and she likes to say it's nice and smooth. They're all smooth. And they're so funny. They really are so funny. And she said, this one tastes like blueberries and ice. And then one time she said, this one tastes like a blackberry soda. Have I ever had blackberry? Blackberry soda? No, I have not.
Starting point is 00:49:03 If you've ever had Blackberry soda comment in the I'll put a link and we love her. She's the greatest. So and so she's pushing the vapes. I hope she's okay. But yeah, I'm okay with
Starting point is 00:49:18 vaping short term, not long term. So was the vitamin E what was causing what they called popcorn lung? It caused one of the chronic lung diseases. I'm not 100% sure it was what caused popcorn lung, but there were people having horrific
Starting point is 00:49:34 permanent lung damage and it turned out that the vape manufacturer was using vitamin E to solubilize the flavor's like, why did they do that? I must have just got a vat of it cheap and said, well, it's an oil and it's vaporizable. And it was not something you wanted to inhale.
Starting point is 00:49:50 That's my understanding of what went down. If I'm wrong, somebody feel free to correct me from my extensive research that took three minutes. That's what I got. all right yeah this one from nick illig
Starting point is 00:50:04 who is brother so rfk junior's doctor discovered a third testicle during an exam he said i think this is what is messing up your voice but it's also probably making you pretty virile but i think we should still remove it
Starting point is 00:50:17 so he removed it and it actually helped his voice quite a bit but bobby and Cheryl missed the third nut and asked the doctor for it back and the doctor said that's impossible it's been destroyed if he put it on himself It's not bad
Starting point is 00:50:36 Bad Nick Our new Chief of Health and Human Services Or whatever What is it that RFK is going to be He's doing something with health care And if the legacy media Is going crazy
Starting point is 00:50:52 You know vaccine denier RFK in charge of our health care And it's like, he doesn't deny vaccines. He was not. He just says he didn't like it. No, what he said was he didn't want MRNA vaccines to be mandated until they were approved by the federal government. And they never were. So that's why.
Starting point is 00:51:14 But that's his thing. Talk to him about it. I'm just repeating what he said. All right. Okay. I don't know what the hell this one is. Hey, Dr. Steve, a long-time listener, a long-time fan. Hey, thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So I have a question for you. And if this is a weird, I don't know. know what is. Okay. For the longest time, I've enjoyed while I was in the shower, turning around the water really hot. Yeah. And taking the showerhead and too much, you know, just having the water in my generals.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, okay. I don't know why. It just feels amazing. Well, it's called washing your genitals. I mean, who hasn't done that? Well, he probably has stinky urine. Oh, yeah, he might have had stinky urine. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Oh, this might be that same guy. But, you know, it's hot enough to where, I guess I've gotten used to it, but if it hits my leg or any other part of my body, it's really uncomfortable. Okay. And I've been doing this as long as I can, I remember. I'm 20 years. Okay. And I'm not sure this is a good idea. I imagine it's not, but.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Well, he's scalding his part of parts. That's what it sounds like, yeah. Now, the testicle, if you want to be fertile, the testicle, the testicle, the testicle, have to be three degrees below body temperature and you might go, well, it's too hot for those. And, you know, they say if you get in a hot tub, that can affect fertility and those things. But transient increases in blood flow really shouldn't cause that much problem. So if he's just doing this for a minute or two, not a big deal. I know that the skin of the genitals is weird because when I was a kid, I made the mistake.
Starting point is 00:52:53 because when I was a kid, we didn't have like Shea butter and all that stuff. You had Vaseline, and you had Vicks Vaporub laying around. So I, you know, I beat off using Bix Vaporub. I guess I was 15. And it just kind of had a warming sensation. Wasn't that big of a deal. Initially.
Starting point is 00:53:12 As soon as I completed the transaction, though, it was like, oh, my God. You know, my junk is on fire. And it switched just like that. as soon as the orgasm was complete and that weird and lots of other things switch like I know people they'll have intercourse
Starting point is 00:53:34 with somebody and then they'll bust a nut and then they'll go oh as soon as they're over they're go shit what did I just do whereas 30 seconds before that they were all in you know so there is this weird switch that turns off or turns on or turns to a different state
Starting point is 00:53:50 and I think it has some evolution thing going on that, you know, the evolutionary drive is to procreate. So even if there's some discomfort, you're going to endure it. The brain's going to turn it off until you're done, you know, presumably impregnating somebody. And then all of us now it's fine if it hurts because it doesn't matter. But try getting VIX vapo rub off of your genitals with soap and water impossible to do. it's impossible. So all you can do is wipe off as much as you can,
Starting point is 00:54:27 wash it the best you can, and then just endure it until the pain goes away. It's the menthol that doesn't. But anyway, yeah. Vicks vapor of you're funny. Well, I was a kid. But, yeah, I mean, it was squishy and seemed like it would work, and it did up until it didn't.
Starting point is 00:54:52 The reality kick. Yeah, it was horrendous. Oh, geez. All right. Fuck, yeah, Dr. Steve. This is Chippa. I tell you how. Kula is the right way to pronounce it.
Starting point is 00:55:03 That's how they say in Chinese medicine. Kuda. All right, bye, Dr. Steve. This is Chippa, yeah. All right, all the way, now. All right. Fuck, yeah, home run. Bye.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Double guns, Chipper. All right. I don't know. He was making fun of Dr. Scott about something. Obviously. Hey, Dr. Steve. I, me and my wife, we recently got a genetic test done.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah. She came out positive for the BRCA gene. Yep. And I came out positive with the ATM gene, or an ATM gene carrier. The question is, I have four kids. What do I need to do to protect them? That's a great question. Do you know this APM gene?
Starting point is 00:55:54 I was going to say, what's an ATM gene? That's what he said. Not that, I don't know. Okay, okay, and now I know what he's talking about. So there's an APM gene that predisposes people to obesity. The ATM gene is a cancer protection gene that helps repair DNA damage. So if you have a disordered one that you're going to be more at risk for cancer. So it's also called the ataxia telangetacea mutated gene.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Now, so let's talk about the burqa gene first. So this is a gene that predisposes people toward certain cancers. And if you have that gene, each of your children has a 50% chance of inheriting the mutation. Now, knowing that you're at risk for something means you're, you're less likely to die from it because you're going to catch it because you're going to go through surveillance. But what you want to do is your kids need to be tested down the road because they have an at-risk parent.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And with this ATM gene, they have two at-risk parents. So the likelihood is that half of your kids will have the Berka gene if genetics were perfect. You can roll, you know, flip a coin and get it. tails four times a row, so maybe none of them will have it. Right. It's possible. Half of them will have this ATM gene, and then the question is some of them will have both, and the ones that have both, you know, need to know that, and the ones that have the actual gene, and it's being expressed, need to know that. So when they get of age, just have them tested. So if they have kids, will they, if they have the gene and they
Starting point is 00:57:44 have the, is it a disorder disease, will they be more likely to pass? it along or does that matter? Right. 50%. Either way, whether they have it or not. No, no. If they have it, it's 50% if they've got one copy of the gene. And if they don't get anything to it.
Starting point is 00:57:58 They don't pass it. Okay. Right. And if they don't have it at all, then they're free and clear. Oh, okay. All right, Dr. Scott. Well, well, before we get out of here, let's look at the fluid family. If you want to join the fluid family, go to YouTube.com slash at Weird Medicine.
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Starting point is 00:58:43 unless you have anything that says we shouldn't be injecting minutes-old babies with hepatitis vaccines. Okay, which I can see an argument for. That was somebody talking about RFK. And do they do that? Do they give them hepatitis vaccine when they're minutes old? No.
Starting point is 00:59:04 I don't think so. Unless they're just talking about lots of minutes. They do inject them with vitamin K and some other things. Yes. And that's actually a good thing. So, all right. we obviously need something with our health care system, something's got to be better. It's crazy to me that what I understand is we as taxpayers are funding the health care system in another country that's at war with another country and that people there have their health care for free and we're paying for it.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Now, if that's not true, then that's, I got that from the legacy media, so I'll have to do some research on that before I make any assertions about it. But it is, if that is true, it kind of bugs me that I have patients who lose their jobs because they have to go get chemotherapy every three weeks and now they lose their house or, you know, they run through all their money and then they are tempted to sell their pain medicine because they can. can't pay the rent anymore, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and putting pressure like that on people when it's possibly avoidable. And I'm probably the only libertarian light person you'll ever meet that's in favor of single-payer health care because I'm sick and tired of having to wonder every time I write a drug, is their insurance company going to pay for it? Because they're all effing different.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Yeah, mm-hmm. You know? Yeah, I agree. Real quick, we got one question that slid in under the line. Okay, good. You're ready for it? You're probably getting me out of trouble, so good. That's what I'm interrupting on purpose.
Starting point is 01:00:49 So, hey, Golden George wants to know, is there a reason why the inflammation in his neck is not going down six months after spinal surgery? Yeah. So there's, well, there's a couple of reasons. Go ahead. Take that because that happened to me, too. I didn't have surgery, but I had an injury and it didn't go away. Yeah. You know, a lot of times depending on what kind of surgery had.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And if it's a spinal surgery on his neck and they came in from the back. of his neck, maybe they had a date of disc or a fusion. A lot of times a scar tissue will build up, and the muscles will actually build up around that scar tissue in the neck, and it looks like swelling. And it's not fluid, it's not fat, but it's actually muscle that's trying to pull the head back in place after the surgery. So it's kind of a protective thing, but it's also trying to pick your head up and just straighten it up.
Starting point is 01:01:36 So if that's what it is, it's actually something we treat pretty well with the acupuncture. Yeah. Because we put needles in those muscles. fatigue and some stem physical therapy for ziatry would help well that any of those not not so much this early they're okay i see what you're saying in the reason he just had it well what did he say how many months yeah six months yeah okay yeah um i think the physical therapy right afterwards to regain moving i mean the initial you're saying this late in the game well yeah but but also this early you know if he lets if you let it continue to go those muscles get um thick
Starting point is 01:02:12 and thicker in the back of the neck. Yeah. Because they're trying to pull the head back into extension. Okay. And if you can work on getting the fascia to release and those, where the scar tissue is, a lot of times that smelling will go down. Hmm. And usually the sooner I get to him, the better.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Okay. Yeah, assuming now, assuming that he doesn't have, you know, an infection or some kind of cerebral spinal fluid leak, which they would have known already. Well, in my case, I've always injured myself. Are you okay? What happened? Yeah, this chair keeps... I'm not even leaning on it. It keeps breaking. Okay, well, I'll fix it.
Starting point is 01:02:49 We'll get you better in a second. I wish I had a camera on you right now. It would be humorous, but I fell down the stairs. The one time I've fallen and I landed on the side of my neck. Scared the shit out of me. My head, right, because she was just worried
Starting point is 01:03:09 that she wouldn't know how to turn the remote on. Who's going to get dinner? Yeah, and the TV still doesn't work in the bedroom. Oh, really? Why can fix that? Okay. What did you try to do? Nothing?
Starting point is 01:03:25 It's okay. I'll take care of it. Turn it on. It don't work. It don't work. But when I did that, it didn't hurt right away, but then after a couple days, then the healing starts, and that's when the pain starts, and then it didn't go away. And it didn't go away,
Starting point is 01:03:40 and it didn't go away for months. And I was like, what the hell is going on? Why am I still having pain for an injury when my body should have healed that long time ago? Well, at my age, you know, maybe human growth hormone has been shown to enhance healing in elderly people. Maybe I could have tried that. But what I ended up having to do is get an epidural injection in my neck of steroids. Right. And this guy, that's why I was recommending physiatry or anesthesiology pain clinic.
Starting point is 01:04:10 because, you know, if they can put the steroids directly where the inflammation is assuming there's no infection and nothing else like Dr. Scott is talking about, that may calm that down. You could do the acupuncture first because it's way less invasive and then do that. Well, I'd tell you it didn't hurt when I did it. And it really, within a week, I was back to normal again. So I was really happy that I did it. Yeah, we got a little clarification. He actually had it from the front. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Correct. No, this was, that's what the Golden George said. They go through the, they go through the front of the neck when they do that. For the injection, yeah. But Golden George just said his surgery was not what I was talking about, a posterior approach. No, I'm saying. No, when they. He had an ACDF, which is anterior.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Correct. I've never known them to do it any other way, to be honest with you. Everybody I've ever had that's had a, unless they put in a cage. Right. That's had a disc removed in the neck. They do it through the front, which seems crazy. Right. But apparently it's way easier to do.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah, so he said he's still having some pre-surgery signs and symptoms and, you know, the swelling is at the base of the next. He's got a lot of sounds like some other levels may be involved. Well, that may be. Yeah, which would be my guess. So they'll want to do some imaging, make sure everything's where it's supposed to be. And then, yeah, you can never go wrong going to see Dr. Scott. Just make sure you see someone with a D.O.M after their name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And that means that they went to four-year Chinese medical school. It's not just some slump who took a weekend class in acupuncture. And then if that doesn't work, absolutely a physiatrist. Absolutely physiatrist, yeah. Or a physiatrist is a person. Interventional anesthetelics come. We'll do it too. That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Physiatory is a medical subspecialty. They don't have an ology name because physiology was already taken. And the real name of their subspecialty is physical medicine and rehab. but when you tell people you're going to send somebody to physical medicine rehab, they go, I ain't going to no nursing home. It's like, I know. It's the name of the sub-specialty. It's very confusing.
Starting point is 01:06:17 But they can do some things that regular doctors can't do. Okay? All right. Let's do it. All right. Sounds good. Wrap it. All right.
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