Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 635 - Syphillis Diller
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You guys weren't able to attend, but it was in Las Vegas.
I wasn't invited.
Well, you wouldn't have.
You wouldn't have come if I did.
Maybe.
I would have been there.
But I had the beautiful Lucy Tightbox as my co-host.
She dressed up in the sexy nurses' outfit, and she was wonderful.
And she really is just so good at this stuff and really was, you know, rolled with all the punches.
And we did, because of Liam's grader.
graduation, and all of a sudden he gets a, he was like, I'm not walking, I'm not walking, I'm not walking.
He decides he's going to walk because he got a letter from the dean saying it was, you know, number one in his class.
Of course, he shared that distinction with 60 other people, but out of 2000 people, it was pretty good.
I was very proud of the little fucker, and he decided, okay, I'm going to walk.
He got excited about it.
Well, it was the day I was supposed to do my show.
Of course.
And actually, I was supposed to do it Friday at 3.30, and there was no way I could get back in time.
We tried that.
And so I was supposed to be the shit show that started the thing, 330 on Friday.
I was going to be the first show.
And it builds up to the really good shows, right?
Well, I told Mr. Melton that the guy that was running, the impresario running,
the thing that I wasn't going to be able to make it.
And he said, wait a minute, wait a minute, let's see if we can work this out.
And so we tried, first thing we were going to do is he was going to rent me a private plane
to bring me home in time.
You know, I would get home at like 6 in the morning, which would be plenty of time to get there by 10.
And he said, I can probably get that for, you know, four or 500 bucks.
And it was like, bullshit, but you go ahead and try.
$15,000.
Yeah, it turned out he was off by a couple of orders of magnitude.
So he said, that's not going to work.
Let me try something else.
So what he did was he rescheduled the whole show so that I could do my show at 10.30 on Saturday, which made me the headliner.
So I refused to accept that.
I said WATP was the headliner.
I'm just the midnight show, right?
You know, that's sort of the after show.
And so I got there at 8 o'clock, and I've told some of this story already, which was a little.
11 o'clock our time.
I go on at 10.30, which is 1.30 our time.
And I went to bed at 3 o'clock, which is 6 in the morning, our time.
So I was up for 24 hours straight, didn't eat or drink except for some, you know, alcohol that I had, you know, after the show.
And but, yeah, it was, it was wonderful.
The crowd was just so generous.
And, you know, we got a, it was, I take that as it was a cumulative standing ovation for all of us.
It was for all of us, you know.
But it was fun.
We had a contest where people had to do the Howie Mandel latex glove thing where you blow it up.
I taught everybody how to do that.
And they wrote their name on it.
And then they would shoot it at the stage.
And then I would pick it up and, you know, whose ever name was on there got a prize.
It was mostly wet brain card games.
But I gave away the original Dablers Anonymous T-shirt and stuff.
So some historic stuff.
But it was fun.
and got to hang out with some really cool people.
Dame Taft was there, and that's actually a dude, and T.O. Hank, and of course, all the, you know, Cardiff Electric and Tuckie and Bedabler and Carl and Andy and all those folks were there.
got to meet and hang out with the lovely KB, who is very lovely and delightful.
And, you know, it was just a, it was a great, it was a great time.
And that was the send-off for you.
Yeah, that was the send-off for the Sirius X-M show.
So that was the very last Sirius X-M show.
And the way I did the Sirius X-M show was I just played the show and then talked over it.
So, you know, remember when I've told that story that Anthony came up to us after the first show and said that was the best first show I've ever heard?
Well, this was the worst last show.
I mean, it was so ham-handed.
I was exhausted.
And I just, you know, I could have edited it up and made it nice.
And I just was like, ah, fuck it.
But anyway, but I did, I will put up the video on our YouTube channel eventually.
Mr. Melton sent me the ISOs.
You know, they had a four-camera shoot,
and I'm going to cut it up the way I want to cut it up,
and then we'll put it up on our YouTube channel.
And, yeah, it was great.
So that's all I'm, that said.
You know, I just wanted to talk about that.
It was really fun, and it was great meeting everybody.
What an adrenaline rush.
Oh, my gosh.
It was.
I guess I was awake on adrenaline.
I don't know.
Whenever I go to that thing, like the last time I was putting all the young people to bed, too.
I'm like, we're tired.
I'm like, no, we're going to keep going.
I would have been out.
There's no way.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I get that reserve, even though I'm ancient, you know, get that reserve of strength.
But it's probably not good for me.
I probably took a year off my life.
Who cares?
It's a year at the end.
That was a lot of travel.
As Dennis Leary said, it's all the shit at the end that you're saving and that's all the bad years anyway.
So I might as well enjoy it.
Enjoy it while you're young.
Yep.
So I don't know what we'll do next year.
I don't even think I'll do a show at Hackamania next year.
I'll just go and just be, you know, just hang out.
Be fun.
Anywho, we are doing a special Cardiff and Tuki and Rocco and I are working on a special thing for Hackamania 3.
Oh.
So I'm hoping.
I can't say anything about it.
I'm sworn to see this.
But it was my idea.
So I do hope it comes to fruition.
if we take the time and actually work on.
We have a year.
But you always go, well, we got a year,
and now we still got 10 months,
and the next thing you know,
you're doing it five minutes before the show,
and it sucks.
And it always catches up.
Yeah.
Anyway, all right.
I will be in Detroit for WATP.
I have a bad taste at my mouth about last year.
Oh, don't tell me you're going back there again.
I am.
But it's, you know, hopefully, I mean, last year,
you know, two of my friends disappeared
and I thought they were dead on the side of the road
in Detroit and so I did a really shitty job on the stage
and I need to do, I need to redeem myself.
So, and it turned out they were just at the hotel fucking,
I didn't know.
I literally thought they were dead.
Yeah, yeah.
Because they weren't answering me.
They just disappeared.
And one of them,
I had Life 360, you know, we were linked up on Life 360, that was turned off.
So I'm like, oh, okay, someone has taken their phone and wiped it and they're dead on the side of the road somewhere because it's Detroit.
But they were fucking.
I guess that's what they were doing.
I don't know.
But, you know, we're in Ferndale, so it's a nice part of Detroit.
But, you know, still, you're from country bumpkin like I am, you know, you're in a big shitty.
And, you know, everybody's getting mugged and killed by them city folk.
But it wasn't the case at all.
But I didn't know that.
And it was either that or they were so pissed off at me that they just cut me off.
And either way, I was my, then my adrenaline was going.
Most of the time, I don't get my adrenaline pumping at these things.
But it was then, but that was why.
And I just was very distracted and did a terrible job on the stage.
And then they have an after party and stuff, and I just left.
Because I was, well, I was freaked out.
I had to go find out what I was going on.
Well, they're dead.
There's nothing you could do about it.
Well, I'm not going to go to the after party and party.
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So are we 85 this year?
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So anyway, all right.
Very, very wonderful.
Anyway, all right, let's answer questions.
Let's do it.
All right.
Let's see here.
Here's one from June 15th of 2015.
There you go.
Oh, wow.
It's a little bit late getting to this guy, her woman, whoever it is.
I have hitting edema in my lower leg and ankles.
Okay.
A lot of it was from opiate use.
But it left a lot of discoloration on the skin itself.
I was wondering to see the way of getting rid of that because it's really dark, it's brown, it's really quite ugly.
You answer that, I'd be great, thanks.
What's edema?
swelling
Okay, so what it sounds like
He really has is brawny edema
That's a type of swelling that's characterized
By a real dense, firm texture
And there's an increase in connective tissue
And you get thickening of the skin
And hyperpigmentation, in other words, you know, darkening of the skin
And it's
similar to pitting edema
now
normally brawny edema doesn't
leave impressions when pressed but you can have
pitting edema that leads
to brawny edema
and
you know it's chronic
the
it's caused
due to long term
fluid accumulation so if you had
pitting adema for a long time
and swelling
and you get so much swelling in the legs
that the skin
then capillaries can't feed all of that
and they get stretched out and they sometimes they die
and so you'll get
you know this can be caused by chronic venous insufficiency
not so much from opioid abuse I don't know why he's thinking it's caused by
using opioids unless just happened at the same time
well let's see unless it's caused some cardiac or some liver
I mean if he's got fluid in his abdomen
yeah he's got heart failure CHF
opioids don't do that
so much either.
If he was immobile
for a long time or something like
that, but normally it's just
bad veins. Yeah, well, yeah, lack
of inactivity. Yeah, certainly
inactivity to do it and lack of circulation.
Go ahead, yeah.
But anyway, no, I was just going to say, so the problem
with that is, is that once the pigmentation
gets into the skin
from the
damage to the blood vessels, you really can't get rid of it
easily. I'm not aware of any any are you know of anything well no but I think the best thing is
is just you know reestablish good circulation is lower right and that can be done by a bunch of
different ways I hope that he's found those ways in the last 10 years which would would be things
like um physical therapy lymphedema massage you know a lymphoma specialist yeah you know
support socks, you know, sometimes the vein specials don't have to go in and do some, you know, small procedures.
Sure.
Or compression therapy, too.
You know, if he has lymphedema, which is caused by blockage of the lymphatic supply, you can apply compression.
And you can do that with venous stasis as well.
They use these things called Una Boots.
It's a medicated wrap that's not elastic, and it will force some of the fluid out of the legs.
But then, you know, if you just take it off and keep doing the same things that you've been doing,
standing up for long periods of time or sitting for long periods of time without moving around,
then it just comes right back.
Now, there are some topical creams that can get rid of pigment in the skin.
Now, the pigment is actually caused by a molecule called hemocytorin,
and it's just staining from the poor blood circulation.
and these topical creams like hydroquinone or retinoids can sometimes lighten the skin
and might get rid of some of that.
So it just makes your skin darker?
Yeah.
Yeah, and it can be spotty too.
Okay.
Yeah.
It almost looks like a, especially if you have really kind of paler skin,
you'll have almost like a brown sock on.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'm literally like a sock.
Now, I'm looking at something right now that says laser therapy can target and break down
the hemacetorin.
So if you get the right frequency of laser, you might be able to, but you're going to have to
go over your whole leg to do that.
So I would definitely see a vascular specialist about this if you really want to do something
about it.
Of course, it was 10 years ago, so good luck with that.
But there may be some people who have the same problem right now.
So the skin's not dead.
It's just dark.
The skin is stained.
Right.
It's stained and it is damaged.
It's thickened and damaged because when you stretch the skin out like that, the
blood vessels that are trying to feed it can't force blood into that because it's under so much
pressure now because of the stretching of the skin and so the body's reaction to that is basically
scarring kind of yeah you're actually hyper-stretching the all the fascia and the components
of the skin everything gets stretched out of its normal norm you know kind of um the body's reaction
is to try to protect itself is just to thicken that and uh and then with those
blood vessels, you know, the little capillary
start to burst and stuff, then you get
that hemacetorin staining. At least that's
my understanding of the mechanism of it.
Yeah. So exercise,
elevating the legs, maybe try
and compression therapy. I could
I would start with the hydroquinone
and maybe retinae or something, you know,
prescribed by a dermatologist.
And if that doesn't do, then they could maybe try the laser
thing if you're really worried about the appearance of your legs.
Okay. All right.
and glad you got off the opioids.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Here's another one from June 15, 2015.
Yes, I was just trying to get in contact with you.
I had a virus or something that was on my penis.
It's been probably about five, six years ago.
Okay.
And after that, it went away.
It was almost like a little sore, and it went away, and I don't have a feeling.
It's not, it seems like it is not stimulating as much as what I would like for it, too.
Yeah.
And I am over 56 now, and so I was just wondering if that was part of my,
The sensation is keeping me from getting an erection as far as emotions, not building up as much.
I don't have the stimulation like I need to.
Yeah.
And I can see down here he's going to give his phone number out.
What's a penis virus?
Is that such a thing?
Yes, of course.
Well, there's herpes.
Right.
But that will come and go and come and go and come and go.
the penis virus that could cause kind of a sore
that would then disappear and go away altogether
and he didn't give the time frame
but if it was over several months
you would think HPV
because HP the body can kill HPV
if it wants to
when you have it doesn't necessarily mean
you're going to have it for life
but you can't ever
say that you know if you've had HPV
you got to always tell your partners that you had it
and it went away.
I had HPV on my feet.
You know, plantar warts or human papillomavirus,
and the dermatologist would go in there and, you know, laser them or, you know, zap them.
And then one time I went to a podiatrist when I was in college and I had a couple of them,
and he dug it out with a curate.
And the next thing I knew, all the rest of them just disappeared.
So him digging that out with a curate exposed the virus to my immune system,
then went and went, hey, you fuckers, aren't supposed to be here either, and it went and killed all of them.
Now I don't have it.
You know, I haven't had any planter warts in forever.
And whenever I had to have adults with plantar warts, I'd always, you know, when I would treat them, I would always at least try to dig one of them out that way, just in case it would work for them.
That's cool.
Multiple myeloma, or no, I'm sorry, melanoma will do the same thing every once in a while.
There's this thing called the abscopal effect where if you radiate a melanoma lesion in a bone and you kill it every once in a while, the person will be cured of their melanoma.
Now, if we could harness that, we would have a cure for melanoma.
We haven't got to the point where we can harness it yet.
It's just at random.
It happens.
It's rare, but it happens.
I have an article about it at Dr.steve.com.
if you click on non-sutoscience cancer cures.
Okay.
But anyway, so, but the other thing I'm worried about is if you have a lesion on your penis that is painless and it divides and then it disappears, what am I thinking about, Dr. Scott?
That would be considered penile cancers.
No, that would not disappear.
Incorrect.
Okay.
Okay, think of this.
You got a lesion on your penis.
It divides in two, and then it divides in four, and then eight and 16, and then it fades away.
It's a baby. Oh.
I don't know.
I'm stumped.
Okay, it would be syphilis.
Oh, syphilis.
And the problem with it is that the primary syphilis turns into secondary, you know, second phase syphilis, which means you have no symptoms.
But then tertiary syphilis.
Gotcha.
is neurocephalus.
That's where it comes roaring back.
And, you know, Lyme disease does the same time.
Whoops.
You couldn't give me a call on.
Okay.
Neurosyphalus and tertiary Lyme disease are closely related because they're both kind of spirochetes.
Okay.
And so syphilis has a dermatologic, I'm sorry, Lyme disease has a dermatologic first phase, right?
You get that.
the rash
and then it goes away
and then you think you're okay
and then it comes roaring back
and you get cardiac problems
and stuff like that.
Well, syphilis, same way.
You get this dermatologic chanker
that goes away
and then it's latent
and then it comes roaring back
and causes, you know,
that neurocephalus syndrome
or your nose can fall
off and all kinds of stuff.
I'm
I'm hoping that
This was HPV.
And he also complained of erectile dysfunction.
And at 56, not that unusual, to be honest with you.
And probably not related to the...
Probably not related to this.
See your primary care.
Get your testosterone checked.
If it's not normal, they'll replace it.
If that fixes it, great.
Otherwise, then, you know, there's lots of things out there that you can get that are, you know, that worked very well.
Ruggiat is an online provider of erectile dysfunction medication, and they have apomorphine,
which was brought to market and then not approved by the FDA because it caused nausea and vomiting.
And they use apomorphine.
If your dog eats chocolate and you go to the vet, they will inject.
them with apomorphine, and they will vomit immediately.
So they puke it all up.
Now, Ruggiet has it in such low doses, and they combine it with Viagra and Sialis.
And, you know, the Viagra and Sialis are in normal doses, and they'll just dope it with a little bit of apomorphine.
And then it's a sublingual lozenge, and you put it under your tongue.
It's outstanding.
I will have to say, of all the things out there that you can buy, mail order for erectile dysfunction, that's the one.
They should be sponsors of our show because that's the best.
That good, huh?
Yeah, it's the best.
Incredible.
And I've tried them all.
Not that I need it, but I, you know.
Just for you.
All right.
So I hope that guy's okay.
Good to know, just in case.
I hope he's okay.
All right.
Hey, Dr. Steve.
I have ugly feet.
Okay.
And it's mostly because I keep on getting what I think is athlete's foot back.
Yeah.
I work out a lot.
I run a lot, but I change my socks twice a day.
I shower every day.
I wash my feet.
But I cannot seem to kick the athlete's foot.
It gets so itchy at some point in time that I end up like scratched by bleed, which is gross.
And my toenails, some of them look normal, some of them are just now oddly shaped and this color.
I've tried every different type of topical toenail oint, paint brushy thing under the toenail, nothing seems to clear it up.
No cream less for longer than a couple weeks, but still, even then, it seems like it never really goes away.
how do I get rid of this knit and where the plus again?
Yeah, gotcha.
So he has refractory tiniapetus.
That's the term we use for athletes' foot.
The first thing I would say is he's tried all the over-the-counter of the stuff.
It's time to go to a dermatologist.
And it may not be athlete's foot.
That's what I was thinking about.
It may be complicated about some other underlying things.
Yeah, it could be complicated by bacterial.
infection or
yeah well that's true he could have
you know
poor circulation
poor circulation or
as Dr. Scott said
you know elevated blood sugar stuff like that
so he needs to get this checked out
there are
prescription strength
medications that can be provided
you know there are
stronger creams that are only
thank you
are only
prescription strength
So econazol is one, cyclopirox is another one, but they may want to give an oral antifungal like fluconazol or itchreconazole.
And that has to be done by prescription as well.
And it would be really good for a dermatologist to look at it and just make sure we're not dealing with something else.
We get people all the time who think they have jock itch and it won't go away with antifungals.
And it turns out it's a thing called erythrasma, which is actually.
caused by a bacterium and you know you treat it with the antifungals and the bacteria
just laugh at it right but you give them a couple doses of the correct antibacterial
and they disappear antibiotic and it disappear so get that checked out yeah that'd be a good
time for the the nitric oxide the um sometimes it's a topical sometimes it'll help
it was a decreased blood flow increase that blood flow for the refractory oh oh oh oh like the
nitroglycerin kind of topically yeah okay i see what you're saying okay yeah i don't know i'm
interesting you use nitric oxide is a vascular it's basically with really bad rana odds oh i'm sorry
yeah it's basically with with really topical nitric oxide really like a natural yeah like you take
under your tongue for oh your so no that's nitr glycerin that's what's the first one is nitroglythin
but they have a topical for your fingers but it's nitroglycerin not nitric oxide right yeah
nitric glycerin but yeah I think you can use nitric oxide also because the same thing you would
use for like you know which helps us get erections right yeah I'm just I mean I'm just throwing
it out there I'm not saying that's a proven no let me look at it I'm not saying it's a proven
it's my theory don't well they do have topical nitric oxide there you go huh
well now I just learned something Dr. Scott topical nitric oxide shown promise for
various skin conditions including acne eczema wrinkles dude that's what
When the music's going, Lady Diagnosis, it means that I'm ending the show.
I'm doing my job.
Okay, thank you.
She's doing her job, though.
Good girl.
Doing what I was told to do.
That's what I like about.
Yeah, it's a short-lived immune modulator and broad spectrum antimicrobial agent.
What?
That's interesting.
Well, we use nitric oxide as, you know, a blood flow enhancer.
It says it enhances skin tone quality texture,
potentially reducing the appearance of fine lines and large pores and unwanted
pigment.
And now, here we go.
It acts as a vasodilator, ding, ding, ding, ding, increasing blood flow to the skin through
capillary recruitment.
Also has anti-inflammatory and antimicrobial effect.
Huh.
Well, isn't that something?
Well, you know what to say?
You know, my blind hog staggers across snake horn there once in a while.
Yeah, no, that's good.
You know, you can, arginine, the amino acid is a precursor for nitric oxide, and you've
And people advocate taking it as well.
That's interesting.
I'm going to get some of that and try it out on a couple of things.
Oh, God, is it expensive?
Is it really?
Oh, $161.
Oh, from these assholes.
Let me see.
Okay, let me see what Amazon's got.
$100 says Dr. Steve could make his own.
You want some of that accent, D?
Here we go.
$100.
Watch.
Watch this.
Hey, Dr. Seym, I bet you can't make it.
I bet he's not.
No oxy-derm, one-ounce premium wound care treatment for advanced septic foam.
Okay, whatever.
Okay.
All right.
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