Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 637 - Taurine, Cancer, and Truck Bonerzzz

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

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slash weird medicine. I'm putting up old episodes that can't be found anywhere else. And then when we start doing these live streams after the wedding. The wedding of the century. Yes, it's less than a month away and everybody is freaking out, man. Freaking the F out, except for the bride and groom and me. So they're doing okay. It's usually the way it is, isn't it?

Everybody else is freaking the fuck out. But anyway, patreon.com slash weird medicine. And then if you want me to say fluid to you, mama, or answer some medical question or whatever, and you want to pay for that, which I don't know why you would want to, you can go to cameo.com slash weird medicine. All right. How are things that simply herbal is going? Pretty well. You're busy. Still pretty busy.

Yeah. It's up and down. It's up and down. But you have the CBD nasal spray back in stock. Yeah, we've got everything. You know, we get really busy in the springtime. Yeah. And fall when allergies a little bit worse.

So, yes, we were able to catch back up. Yeah, my allergies don't really bother me in the middle of winter and the middle of summer. Yep, neither. It's falling spring. Oh, gosh. Just miserable. Those Bartlett pears. Oh, God, that's the worst.

It sounds so, they sound delicious, but they're evil. They're evil. Plants from hell. I can see. I can see when they start, when they turn white, I start sneezing. Yeah. And then when they, they turn green from the bottom up. And out outside our office, you know, our whole parking lots cover with them.

Oh. I mean, our whole parking lot of them. Yeah, a lot of them. And you can see them from the bottom up. They'll start turning green from the bottom. And by the time they get at the top and they turn all green. Then you're good. Then you're good.

So every day I get to look outside and go, oh, God, please, hurry. See, there was a legit use for paraquot. Yes. Yes. By the way, we had a listener send me a note, well, two notes. One is an article in nature, which is not some, you know. Mamby, Pamby. Namby, run-of-the-mill, shite journal, because there are a bunch of those out there.

But this was about people with leukemia taking energy drinks, and they linked taurine amino acid in the energy drinks to progression of the blood cancer. Oh, no. And so they're thinking that this amino acid may preferentially fuel these cancer cells, but it was found to, you know, there was statistical significance in the acceleration of the disease progression. So if you have someone in your family or you, you're, yourself have leukemia, you may want to avoid energy drinks with Torrine until we know for sure what the hell's going on with this. Now, Torrine is a natural amino acid.

It's found in meat and fish and other things, all things that you're supposed to, you know, eat and to be healthy. But what they say is Torrine promotes leukeogenesis. that is the development of leukemia cells. And when you megadose it, you know, there are taurine capsules or you're taking a taurine supplement in the form of an energy drink, you know, you're kind of overwhelming the natural balance of amino acids. Now you've got a preponderance of this stuff, and that's why. So.

Fuel to the fire. Yeah. Now, this, having said all of that, This was a mouse study. Okay. So we have to be very careful extrapolating. Before we ban Torrine in, you know, for cancer patients, we need to hold off until we have human data. Torrine has been proven useful as a supplement in chemotherapy.

And, you know, there are studies out there that show that taking Torine can, protect against some chemotherapy induced toxicity. So if it were me, if I didn't have leukemia and I had some solid cancer, so I might take Torrine while I was doing chemo, maybe it helps prevent chemotherapy-induced neuropathy or other things like that. But anyway, I just want to throw that one out there. It was kind of an interesting study. and I can post the link to nature on our website, maybe, if you'll remind me, because I'll forget five minutes from now.

All right. You got anything before we get going? Nothing interesting. Okay. All right. Good. Number one thing. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio.

All right. Here we go. Hello, Dr. Steve, Dr. Scott. How are you? How are you here? I have a question about Down syndrome or Trisomey 21 to those of us in the medical community. Yeah. Why are those people with this condition have a shorter life expectancy?

Thanks. Yeah, okay. So Trisomey 21 is also known as Down syndrome. The reason it's called Trisomey 21 is because they have three copies instead of two of chromosome 21. That's what it is. And so if you do a karyotype, that's where they go in and they find your chromosomes under a microscope, and then they'll pair them together so that you see, you know, two pairs of chromosome one and two and all the way through, whatever it is, 23.

The, when you do that, you can see that people have three copies of this. this chromosome 21. And if you're interested in seeing what I'm talking about, just Google image karyotype, K-A-R-C-A-R-C-R-Y-O-T-Y-E-E, and you'll see these things. You've seen these pictures before where they've just got the chromosomes all lined up and they'll go into it.

There's a lot of different ways you can do it. One is you can start to induce cells to divide, and then when they do that, all those chromosomes gather together, and then you can look at it under the microscope and then take pictures and then through sort of a Photoshop like technique, group them all together. Well, anyway, so that causes the abnormalities that we see in Down syndrome. or trisomy 21 with the changes in the epicantle folds of the eyes and, you know, developmental delay, stuff like that. So individuals that are diagnosed earlier in life tend to have a longer life expectancy. Well, okay, what that really means is that if someone is diagnosed later in life, that they've just missed the diagnosis and missed out on stuff. But there are certain health conditions that people with trisomy 21 are more likely to have,

like heart defects, and that can affect their life expectancy. But the life expectancy tends to be around 60 years of age, but it's been increasing over time. And these are all just estimates there can be people with trisomy 21 that live to be 80 and some that don't make it until 30. It just depends on how severe their medical problems are. But that's just basically it. So anyway, all right. Let's do this one.

Hey, Dr. Steve, this is Dee Bright down in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Hey, man. Hey, man, my Patreon membership's just gone dead. Uh-oh. No. My credit card and everything. I don't know what's going on, buddy. Yeah, for a fellow Tennessean, I absolutely will.

And any time that you have a problem like that, don't leave them a voicemail. We're answering voicemails from 2015. So I'm just going to make that recommendation. Message me on Patreon or send me an email. You can go to Dr.steve.com and click contact. That works again. So it's funny. I think we got him taken care of.

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P.A. John, I'm in Ohio. And the whole edible thing, they're legal now. So, of course, I've been trying them. Of course. Why is an orgasm on an edible? It's like a thousand times better. Right. I don't even want to have sex now without taking an edible, which, of course, is probably not a great thing.

But why is that? Is it some sort of muscles relaxing? Is it a thing? I don't know. But all I'm saying is, I don't know if it's anybody else, I've talked to a couple friends and they kind of agree. But when I take an edible and I make it happen, it's a game changer. Yes. This is known effect.

THC interacts with these cannabinoid receptors in the brain. It's CB1 and CB2. And those areas are involved in pleasure and memory and thought and sensory perception. Also, anxiety. but, you know, depending on the type of edible you're taking, you may have reduced or increased anxiety. But the THC may lower your inhibitions and reduce anxiety during sex. But the main thing is these heightened sensations and heightened firing in the pleasure syndrome. That's why people like to do pot because it's, you know, for many, not everybody, it's a pleasurable experience.

And that's because it's hitting those pleasure centers. Well, so does an orgasm. So the two together. It's like the icing and the cake. That's right. Yeah, research suggests that THC can boost sexual arousal by interacting with the endocannabinoid system, which also plays a key role in regulating sexual response. So now cannabis use before sex can lead to more frequent and more indefinitely.

intense organisms, orgasms for women, particularly those who experience difficulty with orgasms. So if you have a friend or if you yourself are an orgasmic, in other words, it's difficult for you to have an orgasm, if you're a woman, that might be something that you could consider. And I wouldn't get high as a kite because that can induce other problems, but a small amount of T. might be helpful, but talk to your provider, particularly if you're in a state where THC is legal. Your cannabis provider. Yep. Right.

You know, when we were in Denver, the first time I went to one of the, one of those beautiful little stores, the cannabis stores, the dealers were called the bud tenders. So they sent you into the seat butt. I don't, I didn't, I didn't come up with it. I thought it was pretty funny. Your bud tender. I'm sure the bud tenders are very knowledgeable. I'm sure they are.

I went to one of those in Chicago. You know, I think I told this story. I wanted to just one time in my life because of all the furtive back alley purchases I made during the 60s, the fact that you could just walk in and buy it legally was something that was on my bucket list. And I hadn't done any THC products in 40, 50 years. But I walked in. in there, and it was pretty cool, but yeah, they were knowledgeable, but I don't know so much about that. I think that they know what their products are, and they have sort of a broad, and of course, it depends.

You know, you can have somebody in there that's a biochemist, and they would know a lot. But, you know, I just said, I want something, I don't want something too crazy, but I want to feel like I did during the 60s, and she sold me this hybrid stuff. and I took one dose and regretted it. All my long... Well, I went to bed thinking it would help me sleep because I was kind of jacked up. I was at the Chicago WATP event was the first one I'd ever been to.

And I didn't really know them that well then. And so I... But that was one of my side quests was going to the cannabis store. And so, you know, I took... took it and I woke up at like four in the morning hearing disco music under under my room and what it was obviously in retrospect it was a air conditioner that was making a thumping sound or you know some fan that was thumping and I'm like they're playing fucking disco music down there and then I started getting paranoid because I was I had allergies it was I think it was in the spring or the fall and I had allergies and I started getting paranoid thinking I'm Oh, God, I've got COVID. I'm going to have to rent a car. Oh, no.

It was right during COVID. Yeah. And I'm going to have to rent a car, and they're all going to hate me because I gave everybody COVID. This is a super spreader, and it's my fault. Oh, this is it was crazy. And so I packaged it up and gave it to the comedian at the show because I wasn't dealing with that shit. So, yeah, and there was no way I could have had intercourse feeling the way I did. No, you know.

No. But anyway. They should have told you to start with a quarter of one just to kind of ease. Yeah, it would have been good. Yeah. I know better now, but it was bad. Anyway, all right. Let's.

Hey, Dr. Steve. Hello. Recently, I saw an article that said that MRNA technology had been used by researchers to target the HIV virus. in the body, even though the virus was not detectable by other means. And the article then said that, hey, maybe someday this could be used to abolish, you know, get rid of the AIDS virus. To which, since it was on an email list, I replied, well, that's great.

Maybe after we get rid of AIDS, we could get rid of the chickenpox virus and shingles. And the person replied to me, well, meaningly, and said, well, there's already a shingles vaccine. Right. Which got me to wondering, given that AIDS and shingles both can hide out, or, you know, the chickenpox virus can hide out into the body in an undetectable way, what is the mechanism that the Shimbric vaccine is using to prevent shingles? Right. since I assume it's not eradicating the hidden virus. Correct. Thanks.

Yeah, it's a great question. So I think I found the article that they're talking about. It says efficient MRNA delivery to resting T cells to reverse HIV latency. In other words, latency means, you know, hiding in the body. And it says major herderly curing HIV is the persistence of integrated pro-virus. in resting CD4 T cells, because, as you know, HIV targets immune cells, that's part of the problem. And if it kills enough of them, you don't have an immune system anymore. And these remain transcriptionally silent in a latent state.

In other words, they're sitting there waiting to be activated. And they're not really viruses yet, but they have the potential to become a virus. And it says one strategy to eradicate latent HIV is to activate. viral transcription followed by elimination of infected cells through virus-mediated cytotoxicity or immune-mediated clearance. In other words, you have these pro-viruses, you know, virus precursors in the body, in these cells. And what they're saying is we can activate them to make virus, which you'd think would be a bad thing, but then we kill them. So it's like, you know, get, I don't know, throwing a carrot up for a rabbit in a, you know, in a Warner Brother cartoon and then they have the rabbit stick his head up and then you try to blow his head off.

Right? Something like that. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. So we hypothesized MRNA lipid nanoparticle technology would provide an opportunity. to deliver MRNA encoding proteins able to reverse HIV latency in resting CD4 T cells. So this is not the same thing as the MRNA vaccines that we've been talking about adenosium for the last five years.

So they're putting these in these nanoparticles and then injecting them. And it said here we develop a MRNA lipid. nanoparticle formulation with unprecedented potency to deliver MRNA to hard-to-transfect resting CD4 T-cells in the absence of cellular toxicity. Encapsulation encoding HIV-tat protein, an activator of HIV transgressor. Oh, this is interesting. So what they're doing is they're using the MRNA. Remember, that's messenger RNA.

So it tells cells what proteins to make, right? Okay. So the MRNA is transcribed by T RNA, transcription RNA, through these mechanisms called ribosomes. And then it's just a set of instructions on how to make a protein. And so what they're doing is going, fuck you, here's the instructions to activate these, these viruses so they can't hide anymore. It's pretty damn interesting. So they give it this activator of HIV transcription and then it enhances HIV transcription

in these CD4 T cells and it enables the delivery of clustered, regularly interspersed, palindromic repeats, okay, so I'll explain this a second, let me read this, to modulate both viral and host gene transcription, okay. So these findings offer potential for the development of nucleic acid-based T-cell therapy. So they're amplifying it by using these short peptide. They're called palindromic repeats. And so they're saying you can't hide anymore. And then we use other technology to kill it.

This doesn't kill it. It just says you can't sit in our T cells anymore and wait for us to go away so that you can reactivate. Now, when he's talking about shingles, I believe the shingles virus hides in the body as intact virus. Let's shingles How does shingles Hide? Okay But I believe it's intact particles

It remains dormant in the nerve cells In the dorsal root ganglia We know that Let me see The virus stays inactive In these nerve cells for years Sometimes a lifetime When the immune system weakens

The virus can reactivate Well maybe there is a role for this and that To get them to reactivate and then kill them all with antiviral medication because the shingricks just gives the body an immune response to that that just keeps it down.

When it emerges, it just kills it. But they're not killing the dormant cells. So if we could cause all of the cells in the body, I'm sorry, all the viral particles in the body to activate all of them and then kill them, then they would not be able to hide in the neurons anymore. And that would be an effective, permanent prevention for shingles.

Kind of interesting. That is an interesting approach for sure. So that's fascinating. Thank you for sending that to me. We will keep an eye on that. I think it's a neat idea. People have the same issues with it that they do with any other MRNA technology. But if you have someone that has HIV that you just, you know, cause their counts to go to zero,

the problem is they have to continue to take those medications. But with this, you now go, okay, we've got your counts down to zero. Let's kill all the remaining viral DNA in your body by activating it all and killing it. So, it remains to be seen how this will pan out, but it's a very interesting idea. Hmm. All right. All right. Hey, Dr. Steve, I called a while ago about orgasming on edible.

Anyway, I don't know if this thing, or if you screen all of your female co-hosts perfectly, but every single one of them could read the phone book, and I would pay for that. I'm not trying to make movies, though, but holy cow. Every single one of them has the most beautiful voice I've ever heard, and that includes your lovely wife, Casey. So I don't know if it's a Tennessee thing. Yeah, it's the accent. It's the hillbillie. Maybe don't watch the video.

It's the hillbilly. I'm just kidding. No. Boyces can be deceiving. Lady diagnosis of Tacey and who else. Melby. Lidio, they're all very attractive. Yes.

See, Dr. Steve. I thought I'd respond to him, Paul, you just got him, about a guy saying that he'd get hard while he was driving overnight. I think he misheard him. I think he said he was driving all through his night shift. So he's probably a truck driver. And I can tell you from experience, when I used to drive all through his night in my 20s, granted, I would get boners. Oh, yeah. In my 20s.

Oh, my God, of course. In my 20s. Right. But not your 50s or 60s. I think I've, I may have, well, anyway, let's just say I heard of people who might have jacked it while they were actually driving, which is stupid. No idea why. It's boring.

I'm not looking at much. Yeah. Why does that happen? I'm not going to admit to, you know, taking care of that while I was driving. Oh, okay, see. It didn't keep me awake. Yeah. So just adding that.

Until you're done. No, my. And then you've got to take a little nappy. Yeah, have a cigarette. Well, it's interesting because sitting for a long time actually negatively impacts blood flow to the pelvis. So that maybe, and so I wondered about this, it is known that prolonged sitting negatively affects blood flow to the pelvis, which should decrease erections. But maybe, particularly when you're young, when the body notices that, it's like, oh, we better flush out the pipes. and that will give you an erection

as a the blood vessels will open up and try to increase blood flow to the pelvis and when it does that it'll do it to the penis as well and the next thing you know you have a giant meaty erection

that's the only thing I can think of you got anything? Yeah I was just wondering is those just the night cycles because typically the testosterone will come up during the night and then first thing in the morning, and that may just be what it is.

Yeah, that's a good point. Could be just, yeah, morning one. Normal 12-hour cycle or 24-hour cycle. Testosterone starts coming up through the night, and you have erections during the night, and then, you know, yeah. That is true. Yeah, that is true.

I mean, that's all I can figure, which makes sense. I know something else if you're a trucker and you're on the road that will give you a boner. Hey, Dr. Steve, it's lady trucker. Hey, Dr. I just want to let you know that I'm still alive. Yay. There we go.

Talk to you all later. Bye. Well, there you go. There you go. All right. Let's see. I love it. Love it, love it.

All right. Let's try this one here. Oh, yeah. Thank you, Dr. Steve. Thank you for picking up. I really appreciate it. It's good to know that you can call out. out and you'll actually hear someone on the other line.

You know, I really appreciate that, as I say. You know, I've been quite an inspiration to me and my family here at the Triceria area, you know. And, you know, without making too big a deal out of the whole thing, you know. I've called before. I never called back, but that's all right. because, you know, the love is here and respect and all the, for all that you've done over the evening. It's been quite, quite an interesting. Okay, all right, all right.

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Just click accept gifted memberships. Myrtle gave out 20 memberships this morning. Myrtle is a rock star. Yep. I see the one pun in there. Yeah, Myrtle sent 20 Weird Medicine. gift memberships. And look at this, Matthew,

Gina Bobina, King, Jump and Slash, Larry Ragonet, Dave, Sarah, all these people all got free membership. So, anyway, so yeah, check it out. But Kish, I was just watching a video

of a group called the musical box, and what they do is they do 70s Genesis covers. Okay. Which are not. It's not easy to do.

The later stuff, the more poppy stuff, a little bit easier to do, but the early stuff, almost impossible. This was spot on. Pretty much note for note, very impressed. So check that out. Their version of Supper's Ready, which is 23-minute masterpiece of early Prague music is incredible. And then if you want to see another cover band, John Anderson with the band geeks are doing all covers of, you know, 70s and 80s of yes music.

Of course, they're not exactly covers because John Anderson was the original vocalist, but anyway. All right, thanks. Thanks, everyone. We'll see you on next week. Until next time, check your stupid nuts for lumps, quit smoking, get off your asses, get some exercise. We'll see you in one week for the next edition of Weird Medicine.

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