Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 638 - Shilajit and Fall Back in It

Episode Date: July 19, 2025

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You can also click join and then just click accept gifted memberships. Myrtle gave out 20 memberships before this show. and that happens frequently you get members-only content and stuff like that it's only 99 cents anyway you buy it for yourself whatever all right you're ready for this yep we've got actually got three good ones okay good yeah so amy see wants to wants to know why dementia patients become horny as shit my mom went to visit my dad during a nursing home visit and got felt up the entire time oh yeah well there's a disregulation of inhibitions yeah they're much more free flowing and they don't Yeah, there's, you know, we have the id ego and super ego, and the super ego kind of keeps us from just grabbing tits and asses and stuff all the time. And that is, that is one of the things that's dysregulated in certain forms of dementia. Well, you know, and you'll see that too, in early childhood and then dementia. So as a spectrum kind of grows, you know, you mature and you gain. You learn not to do those things.

Yeah, like the waitress, and I'll never get my little nephew, we were in a restaurant, and, you know, he's like two. And the waitress turned around, he just smacks right on the ass. We all just kind of looked at her, and she just grinned. She knew it was him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, it's funny if a two-year-old does it. It's funny if a seven-year-old does it or even that's still kind of weird. Yeah, it was pretty good.

So, yeah, that's disinhibited. Yeah. That would be the thing, yeah. Yeah. There was, and let's just say I heard this story, a guy who had dementia. And we will grade dementia in seven levels, and then six and seven have sub-levels. But for someone, say, to be in hospice, they need to be level 7C, which means they can't walk and they can't talk. Okay.

So they've progressed that far. They're just basically curled up in bed making noises. And then also they have to have some sort of complication like frequent hospitalizations or something like that to qualify for hospice. But anyway, that gives you an idea. And then level one would just be someone who's becoming maybe slightly eccentric. And so there's this whole cask, or not cascade, but the spectrum of symptoms that people sort of with Alzheimer's tend to descend gradually through those. levels. Now, someone with multi-infark dementia, that's, you know, people are having a little mini-strokes that are causing their dementia, that'll be stepwise because they'll be doing okay and then all of a sudden they'll decline. And then they'll be at that level and then they'll decline again until, you know, they, and that's sort of the clinical way you can distinguish between a dementia like Alzheimer's and a dementia like multi-infarct dementia. Well, anyway, So this person, he was probably a stage four.

So he could still talk to you, but it was all just confabulatory. He didn't know where he was. And one thing that dementia patients will do is they'll answer the question they can answer, not the question you asked him. And then they'll just make up stuff. Like, you know, oh, I'm going to, you know, chat. But they're in Chattanooga, but they're in Chattanooga, that kind of stuff. Or they'll say, yeah, my son was just here, even though their son was, you know, passed away years ago or whatever.

And but this dysregulation is a thing. And this guy would move his bowels anywhere but in the bathroom. Oh, my. So in his roommate's closet. Oh, my. And he was very constipated. so it would just, a turd just leaning up against the wall. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Well, is it? Yeah. And then, yeah, he would escape, and then I would call the administrator. Oh, I mean, sorry, the person that I'm talking about would call the administrator and pretend that they were from the grocery store where they found the guy and say that he had left a present on the meat counter. Oh. And they would just go, oh, my God. it wasn't even a surprise oh my word like oh we know what you're talking oh my word

anyway god that's great in this fictional story right on right on anyway all right all right what was the other one hey i've got no yeah it's dysregulation sorry and it's hard to fix that one's hard to fix yeah it is hard hey so the the um one pun and by the way that'll be me when i get my dementia i'll just be grabbing grabbing boobs and buds and just don't be pooping everywhere yeah i won't do that i won't that's gross i'll just do that in my underwear just in your underwear of course the appropriate place correct so the one pun what's to uh what's something oh there's one pun oh no here we go everybody ready for this that's all right i'm not too you got to do at least one you got to do at least

one well i'm trying to think of one i hadn't already done on this stupid show i'll think of one yes so you'll probably come up with one while i'm talking the um Any good and cheap herbal recommendations for mood, depression, energy stuff? I've been asking Dr. Stephen. He was just wondering if we had any other suggestions. For mood, depression. I have some ideas, but you go ahead. I've got some, I think you can look at two different ways.

Number one, I would really work on increasing sleep. Yes. So number one, start with sleep. No matter how much stuff you take there to daytime, if you're not sleeping well, you're not going to feel well. Yeah. So I love, you know, fairly inexpensive stuff would be magnesium supplements, melatonin supplements. To help you sleep.

To help you sleep. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And exercise during the day, not close to sleep time. Yeah. But the, it's amazing. Okay, so exercise increases your testosterone. It increases stress hormones that actually can make you feel more light and airy. and improve your mood, too.

Yep. Because we get depressed, and then we just sit in the couch. And you have to, and then you go, oh, God, the idea of just getting up, you have to force yourself to do it. If you're looking at non-pharmacologic ways, go ahead. Totally, yeah. And that's a, I think it's great advice. So both of those are fairly inexpensive ways to do it.

Just supplements, if you're talking, just strictly supplements for mood and energy. You're going to love this. But I do love a straggles. God damn you. I do love Estraglus. Astraglis is a good one. Of course, you know, ginseng is an old,

both old shiny things. But, you know, interesting, the last show we spoke of Toreen. Yeah, I was just going to... Yeah. So, Toreen, I like, as a brain booster, especially if someone

describes having some brain fog. Yeah. And sometimes boosting that energy will boost your mood. Yeah. And I think those are great things. But here's the other thing that's...

What about St. John's Ward? St. John's Ward has been shown clinically to be effective. You know, you go to simple arable.net, and there's a, we have fatigue reprieve, which is pretty good. And, um, and stressless, of course, both, both are combinations of old Chinese herbs have been used for centuries. But here's, here's one thing I always tell people to do. Um, go to YouTube and watch just the funniest thing you can watch.

Yeah. Because it's, you can't, you cannot be depressed. You cannot be depressed if you're laughing. There's a, there's a book about that. Yeah. Where the, this guy had a. a horrible medical condition. He just watched Mark's Brothers movies and laughed himself well.

Yeah. And I don't know that for sick. If I'm having a rough day, I'll watch those old Will Ferrell Jeopardy on Saturday Night Live. You know? Yes. Because it's hard to beat Tardberg. SETV doing the five neat guys.

Yeah. I mean, so those were all some really reasonable things. Oh, this will make you feel that one. How about a... Oh. I was wondering why the Frisbee kept getting bigger and bigger. And then it hit me.

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Watch anything, Norm McDonough. Oh, just beautiful. And the one other question, if you want one more, we've got one more. Well, yeah. Did we finish up on that? There's got to be some other non. Okay, exercise, sleep. Yeah, for sure.

St. John's Wart, maybe. But don't take St. John's Wart without talking to your provider because it has a lot of drug interactions. And what about Saffron? I don't know much about Saffron. Yeah, some data on Saffron. I wouldn't just take it. I would take it from an herbalist that knows what the hell they're doing if you can find one of those. Well, and also there's the, and I'll say it wrong, the Shilagit, Shilagit.

Yeah, you think that's good for depression? Possibly because it helps. And again, this is just minerals scraped off of rocks on Mount Everest. Yeah, it's the Himalayan mountains. What the hell. I know that there may be benefits. There is some data on it. There may be some benefits to boosting immunity and boosting in.

energy and boosting mood levels, you know, how much, you know, how much, you know, double-blind placebo studies have been done on, I don't know, but I know a lot of people have taken. I know, you know, one of the first times I saw it was when Stacey had in here one day. Yeah. Right. And he loves it. And he loves it. And so I bought some and I took it for a while until I forgot to take it.

Yeah. You didn't know. It must not help. It must not help with memory, I guess. Yeah. But, yeah, I would, but I think all of those things for. It should make you feel better, one fun. Oh, here we go.

I invented a new word, plagiarism. There you go. I invented that word. Coleslaw. All right. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, my.

Yeah. Parallel lines have so much in common. It's a shame they'll never meet. Well, there you go. Oh, geez. Hey, what about sunshine? Yeah. Oh, yes, thank you.

Okay. I knew I was stalling for something. You know, speaking of other great things other than morning would, morning sunshine. Morning sunshine. Yes. If you'll go out when the sun's first coming up and get some sunshine first again in morning. Yep. In addition to practicing deep diaphragmatic breathing.

And that also can help increase your mood. Yep. Again, we don't get enough sunlight. Free stuff. Unless we're working outside. Get our asses off. to catch, you know. And that's what I do. As soon as I get out here, I'll go home and I'll work in the yard all day. I don't care why to do just to get some sunshine. Yeah. Feels good.

Now, if you are severely depressed, see your primary care provider and talk to them, remember, don't do anything we said just because we said it. No, no. Check it all out. And, you know, we don't want anybody out there that's suicidal going, well, I just need to go, we'll look at the dawn in the morning. I mean, that, you're going to need something more than that but get help but these things if you what I did with my doctor when I went in and my cholesterol was elevated I said just give me give me 12 weeks and let me see if I can get it down on my own and and they'll do that you know and if you go in say listen I'm depressed they'll grade your depression if it's moderate mild to moderate and you say listen I'd like to try this on my own

what do you think about these supplements and stuff? Talk to them about it. Most primary care providers will be totally fine with that. And then, of course, I went back in 12 weeks and I ended up on Christoror. Well, you know, well, because I just bought myself 12 weeks to just keep doing the same shit I was doing. I'm an idiot. So anyway, physician heal thyself. All right.

So anyway, you got another one? That was actually that Sheila Jeep was the third question, yeah, which is okay. Just wondering about some of the benefits of that. Well, okay, so let's look up. The Sheila Jeet has scraped off of the rocks and crevices during the warmer months, I guess, in the Himalayan mountains. It's composed of organic manner minerals and trace elements, which, you know, we're missing trace elements and minerals and stuff in our diet. I take the trace element little drops every day. Really?

Yeah, I put it in the water every day. Makes a difference. Okay. Here it says Sheila Jeet is primarily composed of 60 to 80 percent organic matter, including humic acid, fulvic acid, and human, and 20 to 40 percent human, H-U-M-I-N, and 20, not dead humans. And 20 to 40 percent minerals with trace elements, according to a study in perspectives of integrated medicine. It's a, oh, wow, the global market is 175.6 million. Well, they're just going to scrape all the rocks clean. This is a limited resource.

There are some studies that suggest that it may help slow cognitive decline in Alzheimer's disease. There you. So indicating that it's, you know, a lack of a mineral or something. Or fat around your brain. Yeah, maybe. Being sucked off by some certain. Yeah, research indicates it may improve muscle strength, recovery, and overall athletic performance.

I would like to just get artificial shilogy, though. I don't know that I want it scraped off of a Himalayan mountain, though, but if we know what's in it. Oh, yeah. That's the best way to do. That's like good, you know, sea salt or, you know, Baja sea salt. You know, it's the real salt that's not been processed. Right, right, right.

It says here that Sheila Jeet contains a variety of heavy metals, including some that are toxic. However, humic substances in Sheila Jeet can help detoxify heavy metals. Interesting. You know, in Dune, they worked behind the scenes. The Tili Laksu masters were working behind the scenes to try to make an artificial spice so that They didn't have to rely on the sandworms of Iraqis to produce it. So I think you could do the same with Sheila-Geed, to be honest. Interesting.

Just find out what's in it and just make it in the lab. Oh, my God. And leave out the heavy metals. All right. All right. Sounds good, yeah. Three great questions. Thank you, Dr. Steve.

You've got a quick question about rheumatoid nodule. Okay. I've had them taken out about four times, and each time that I have them removed, They grow back bigger. I was just wondering if you've had any kind of answers on that. Thank you so much. Bye. Yeah.

So rheumatoid nodules are these sort of firm, usually non-painful bumps. They develop under the skin and people with rheumatoid arthritis. And they are the most common extraarticular, in other words, outside the joint manifestation of rheumatoid. but only about a fifth to a quarter of patients have it. Now, every once in a while they can cause pain or they can get in the way of something, I usually don't recommend having them removed unless they're involving, you know, involving function of something. You can sometimes inject them with corticosteroids, and they're also,

disease modifying anti-brumatic drugs that, you know, can make them go away, but you just inject them, you know, corticostero-steroids, like cortisone or dexomathazone or whatever, right into the nodules themselves. You can do surgical removal if they're large and they're causing significant problems, but then they do run the risk of recurring. Right. Now, there are some medications that are used. to treat rheumatoid arthritis like methotrexate,

and then these tumor and necrosis factor inhibitors, they may actually paradoxically increase the nodules. So talk to your rheumatologists, make sure that the medication that you're taking isn't making it worse. Okay. All right. Okay, doke. All right.

Okay, Dr. Steve, Dr. Scott, Pacey. Hello. Hey, Dr. Steve, he's got a quick question. I was going to answer for Tacey. Let's try that again. Okay, Dr. Steve, Dr. Scott, Tacey. Hi. Whoever else is there.

How are you doing? Expand some on people that have Meneers disease. Okay. I've had that for 30 years and comes and goes, but here late in the spring, it's coming, it's staying. for two or three months. I can't get it clear up, but I was reading about a new drug,

E-B-S-E-L-E-N, that they were in the trials on. I was wondering if you could tell me if that is available or is it restricted in the U.S. or something about it. Anyway, thanks a lot. Okay, man. So let's talk a little bit about Meniere's disease. The most famous person I know that it had Meniere's disease was Alan Shepard, the first American astronaut.

And he ended up going to the moon despite having Menier's because they did surgery on his ears. They did a pressure equalizing surgery in his inner ear to fix it. And he was desperate to get relief because he really wanted to go to the moon. soon. But anyway, so what Meniere's disease is is a disorder of the inner ear that causes vertigo, tinnitus, noises in the ear, hearing loss, and sometimes a feeling of fullness or pressure in the ear. It tends to come and go, but sometimes it comes and stays. And the exact cause is unknown, but it is associated with an abnormal, abnormal amount of full. fluid in the inner ears labyrinth.

So for whatever reason, it starts producing too much fluid, pressure build up. Now you have these abnormal signals going to the brain, causing vertigo, and like the room is spinning. Vertigo is different than lightheadedness. Lightheadedness, you feel like you're going to faint. Vertigo, the room, is actually, feels like it's spinning. If you've ever spun yourself on a bar stool and then stopped in the room, you know, you're dizzy, quote-unquote dizzy, then that's vertigo.

What we usually use for this in the simple cases is a diuretic called hydrochlorothiasein, and it just helps to reduce the fluid build up. That's it. Low-celled diet, limiting caffeine, those kinds of things, but then surgery can be the thing. So now, Epsilon is, can you look to see if it's been released in the United States? I know that in December of 2024, the company making it announced positive phase three results for it, but I don't know if it's been released yet.

But it acts as a thing called a glutathione peroxidase mimic, which is an enzyme that's involved in reducing inflammation, and particularly in nerves. So this stuff may have a lot of different applications, but one of those could be minneurs. So, let me see. So sound pharmaceuticals completed phase three trial, showing positive results and improving hearing loss, tinnitus, and dizziness. So look, go to clinical trials.gov, put in Meniere's disease, and put in Epsilon. That's E-B-S-E-L-E-N. And you may be able to find a clinical trial.

Well, hell, this is not serious exam anymore. Let's just do it. Let's go to clinical trials. go clinical trials there's a there's a study oh you're doing that yeah oh you were doing it okay good thank you um let's see here it study started is supposed to be 12 of oh no it's 20 2015 so it's been started in phase two phase three okay there's one that's not yet recruiting yeah there's an open label trial um and i would get on that Right now, they have four locations, oh, no, wait, sorry, six locations, South Carolina, Texas, Pennsylvania, New York, Miami, and Boca Raton, Florida.

There you go. And then the rest of them, there were four studies on this, the rest of them have been completed and have data. And then one of them is getting ready to get cranked up, and they're not yet recruiting, but you could email them and try to get this drug. So apparently, let me see, if Epsilon FDA approval, let's see here, not yet received full FDA approval. Okay? So it's coming. It looks good. The phase three studies look pretty decent.

And remember, phase three, those are the larger studies right before they go to apply for FDA approval. Gotcha. Okay. Let's see here. They're also looking at, oh, okay, this drug to be used to decrease hearing loss during an after cochlear implantation, an antibiotic-induced hearing loss. There are antibiotics that will cause severe hearing loss, one of those being genomycin. But if it's dosed properly, it tends not to.

There's a guy named Felix Serubi. who invented the nomogram that they used to this day for dosing this antibiotic called genomycin. Felix Ruby was at the University of North Carolina and then moved to East Tennessee State University. And I think now he's retired. But if they gave Nobel prizes out for reducing kidney loss and hearing loss, they would give him one. Because these drugs before that, people had dose them and you just never knew. Oh, wow. You know, all of a sudden you'd walk into a patient's room and they'd be like,

ha you know but anyway and then noise induced hearing loss they're looking at epsilon for that too and then for cystic fibrosis oh wow

yeah well because cystic fibrosis patients get a lot of IV tobramicin which is an amino glycic aminacizide antibiotic like

genimic and they get it a lot and they get it inhaled and all kinds of stuff so anyway yeah that's cool very cool So, yes, thank you for pointing us to that.

It was about a year ago that he called in. But I appreciate that. But anyway, all right. All right, let's see. What else do we have here? Let's look here. Okay, here's a good one. Hey, Dr. Ruse.

Evan from Michigan. Hey, Evan. I remember while I was in biomedical engineering school, we did get a study about. using halioronic acid to replace the nucleus pulpovus in a tourniated vertebral discs. Yep. I thought that was pretty neat, but not nearly as neat as the newest use I've heard for it. Penal enlargement injections.

Yeah. Just thought that was something right up your guys out. It certainly is, my friend. Thank you. So what he's talking about is hyaluronic acid, more commonly, known by the general public as the lip filler. Right. So what people are doing, and I talked about this at Hackamania as well,

people are off-label using it to increase the girth of the penis. It won't increase the length. But if you talk to, most women, they'll say girth is more important than length, although knowing the anatomy is the most important thing. most important thing and know it just figuring out how to do things properly but yeah I asked Lucy Titebox about that that day you know and she said it doesn't gert neither one of those really matter it matters if you care about somebody you know women are a little different than guys in this regard but but good for

them I'm but they do say that if they had a choice between length and girth, it would take girth every time. So that's what this is about. So what they're doing is they're injecting hyaluronic acid circumferentially around the penis to give them a ribbed. So they're sort of ribbed for her pleasure like a, you know, the old French ticklers used to be and all that stuff. So, but the complications from this, if there ever are any, would be catastrophic. So I'm not recommending it. And it's definitely off-label. And it's, it's definitely off-label. It's being done by physicians that are, you know, doing it for the money. Of course, you know, I can't get too upset with somebody doing something for money.

But it is not an approved indication. So I would go real easy on that and make sure that if you did decide to go with somebody that's offering this, that you make sure that they know what the fuck they're doing. You want to see before and after pictures and you want to talk to people. had it done and ask them what their complication rate is okay all right very good well thank you dr scott thanks sir excellent check out dr scott's website simply herbals dot net thanks to everyone uh in the fluid family at youtube dot com slash at weird medicine and go to our website at dr steve dot com for his schedules podcast other crap i'll see you next week oh yeah check your stupid nuts for lumps

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