Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 642 - People are Not Numbers (stop treating them like they are)

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:49 I want to take my brain out, plastic width of the wave, an ultrasonic, agographic, and a pulsating shave. I want a magic pill. All my ailments. The health equivalent To citizen gain And if I don't get it now In the tablet I think I'm doomed
Starting point is 00:03:03 Then I'll have to go insane I want to requiem for my disease So I'm paging Dr. Steve From the world famous Cardiff Electric Network Studios In beautiful downtown OJ City Weird medicine
Starting point is 00:03:21 First and still only Uncensored Medical Show In the History Broadcast Radio It's now exclusively a podcast. I'm Dr. Steve with my little pal, Dr. Scott, the traditional Chinese medicine provider, gives me street cred. The wack-all alternative medicine assholes. Hello, Dr. Scott. Hey, Doc Steve.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And we've got Lady Diagnosis back from sabbatical. Hello, Lady Diagnosis. Hello, Dr. Steve. This is a show for people who would never listen to a medical show on the radio or the Internet. If you have a question that you're embarrassed to take your regular medical provider, if you can't find an answer anywhere else, give us a call. 347-7-66-4-3-3-2-3. That's 347. Pooh-Head. Follow us on Twitter at Weird Medicine or at DR Scott WM or Lady Diagnosis.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Visit our website at Dr.steve.com for podcast, medical news and stuff you can buy. Most importantly, we are not your medical providers. Take everything here with a grain of salt. Don't act on anything you hear on this show without talking over with your health care provider. And don't forget, stuff. Dottersteve.com at stuff.com. You can get Wetbrain, the card game,
Starting point is 00:04:31 and soon, very soon, dabble dice. They're both party games. Wet brain is based on presidents and assholes, so, you know, Dr. Scott will fit right in on that one. Oh, well, because he's a very presidential, Dr. Scott. But anyhow, so, yeah, so go to stuff.com. If you want to check out the rowdy robotic tuner, you can do that as well at stuff. com.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Dr. Scott's website is simply herbals.net. There's all kinds of cool crap on there, of course. And are you still in business, though, right? Yes, sir, we are. And you'll tell it, because I just gave you some chotchkes. Yes, thank you. including artwork done by Oscar Electric, who is in our chat room. And it was, you know, he did the artwork of us playing.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, yeah. That was really nice. Yeah, well, it was cool. So those are autographed. And if you order something from stupid Dr. Scott's website, simply herbals.net, then he'll throw some of that crap in. And I will, too, when people order wet brain, I usually autograph the, like, I go, who wants my autograph, but I didn't, you know, ooh, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Ooh, here. All right. Lord and lady doze your bag. That's for you and Dr. Scott. But anyway, the, yeah, we'll throw some little Choshkis in going forward. Now, we appreciate it. Dabble Dice is going to be fun. I can only imagine.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It is, yeah, it's a multi-person. dice game. Might have to have a little dry run here. I don't know what you're getting for Christmas. Let me do that. Hopefully autographed. Let me tell you something. This is bad, but I could get 500 units for less than I could get 50 from a United States manufacturer.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So I do understand. Now, is it child labor? I don't know. It doesn't sound like it when I talk to the people over there. Just don't ask. But I am a little concerned. I've been seeing people ordering things, and then they get a bill from the federal government for the tariffs. So I don't know how that'll work.
Starting point is 00:06:59 How do we know that's a real bill for real tariffs? Right, I know. No, I'm serious. People are awful skipped. So how do we know that? Have you been saying that as well? We haven't seen it yet. But all of the people that I buy stuff from, they're all giving us a heads up.
Starting point is 00:07:13 It's like, hey, we're going to start charging more. What's going to happen is they're going to cave. and then the tariffs will go away, and it's just a bargaining tactic, it'll be all right. And, you know, if we get those rebates, if what they're saying is true, I don't want to talk politics, but if what they're saying is true and we've already brought in like a trillion dollars and they're going to use some of it to pay down the debt and some of it to give to us, I'm okay with that. And but, you know, so far, so good on the prices. Talk is cheap.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Well, we'll see. Talk is cheap. Yeah, well, so we're. We're dice games from China. That's exactly right. I mean, unbelievably cheap. Oh, I know. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So, yeah, I've got 500 units. I've got to get away. But I can sell them cheap. You know, that's the thing. The card game cost me so much that I have to charge like $30 just to get my money back. Sure. Sure. Of course.
Starting point is 00:08:07 You know, I'll end up taking a loss on those if I don't sell them. But, you know, I've got, we've sold the first batch through. So I bought a second batch, but it's still, I can't drop the price until. I make like a, you know, 2,000 of them. Right. And I'll never sell 2,000 of those. Yeah, then you'll be sitting on, you know, 1,99. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:27 You know, stacks of cards. But that was crazy to me that, you know, I priced dice. It's got 13 dice, and each one of them has got different faces on them. And, yeah, I could get 500 sets with the box and the instructions all together for less than I could get 50 of them. here. I know. I don't know. I felt kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Kind of dirty. But anyway, those are coming. Those are coming. But anyway, yeah, check out stuff. dot, doctorsteve.com and simply herbals. And, you know, if it gets bad enough, you can start giving out dabble dice with every order. So we'll see. Patreon.com slash weird medicine.
Starting point is 00:09:18 These shows go there first. The YouTube, the complete YouTube show goes there immediately after we're done. And then I chop them up and I put up excerpts on our YouTube channel. But these things go away now. So anyway, check that out. And then if you want me to save fluid to your mama or anything else, so stupid like that, cameo.com slash weird medicine. So Jimmy Norton is coming to Asheville.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Well, could you look that up? And we're all going, I think, well, there's several people, including some of our friends from South Carolina, we'll be coming up to go see Mr. James Norton. So it's coming soon. It's end of August, I think, like August 28th or 29th or something. So it's coming up. At the orange. Yeah, the orange peel.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And when is it, does it say? September 4th. Oh, September 4th. 19 days. All right, yep. So we'll be there for that. Yeah, we'll go up and see a little Jimmy. We're going to get a van and...
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah, you want to? Yes. Stay down by the river. Yeah, stay down by the river. Hey, actually, there's a little brewery down there, right down below. Yeah. Orangeville, a new one that's really... Oh, I knew one?
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah, wicked weed was there. Yeah, it's down behind wicked weed on the side, yeah, towards the river. All right, we'll check it out. Well, that'll be a fun thing. Ooh, that'll be fun. I can't think anything else than see here. I hope you, Dr. Scott's. Okay, well, hang on.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Let's try this again. Hi, Dr. Oh, let's do this first. Number one thing, don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. Oh, and by the way, we have super tips now. Supertip is a system where you can send just a message to us and it'll finally get seen because if you do it on super chat, a lot of times we don't see it until. after the show because Dr. Scott is, you know, he's not plugged in to all that YouTube shit.
Starting point is 00:11:24 That's a lot of plug-in. But if you do it on the super tip system, it shows up on my dashboard over here. And then you can do a voice tip too. Now, you can do Myrtle, but if you do Myrtle, it's just the AI, it didn't work very well. So she just sounds like a kindly old Canadian lady. So we're just going to call her Cardiff's mom. Hang on a second. Let me see if I can find
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah, listen, this is Well, this is what old Myrtle's up supposed to sound like And here's what she sounds like on the super tip system Well, how do you're looking like a sight for sore eyes I'll tell you that Sounds like a kindly old Yeah, yeah Canadian lady So let's see
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Starting point is 00:12:34 My dream job would be to clean mirrors. I could really see myself doing that. So stupid. But anyway, so, yeah. So it's super top, supertip.g.g. slash DR. Steve. If you want to try it. And you can ruin the show, too. I have not turned off the thing. So it just pops up. We'll just pop up. It's an extra, it's extra money to do that. But, and you're welcome to do it. If it really becomes obnoxious, I'll just have to turn it off. the podcast listeners may not be, you know, thrilled with it.
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Starting point is 00:16:21 for example, you know. So, yes, there is a, it's called an asymptotic curve where you have, you know, rapid improvement, and then it slows, and then it becomes incremental. So, yes, there is a, it's So these guys, you know, will train and maybe beat the other person by 10 kilos or something like that. And that's probably a better example is running where they'll get the elite athletes are looking at thousands of a second, you know. But anyway. Can I add to that? Yes, of course. There's more to his question.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Oh, but go ahead. I'll say a little bit, a little bit more common term would be hitting a wall in insurance. training. And a lot of times as athletes, you'll be going through, you know, pretty explosive trainings. And what we were trained to do and what still do is once you hit that wall, you take a step back and you, and you do some other form of training. So that's why this whole big thing about, you know, incorporating multiple different types of training. Yeah. It really does. It helps to kind of push you. It fools your body too. And then you can kind of get past that, that wall that you're in and too. Whatever that big two cent word is you use,
Starting point is 00:17:33 What was that two-set word? You used, the training that, oh, you said something like, I've never even heard that word before. But it's when the training, when you reach a peak and you can't go past it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I'm not paying attention. Well, apparently, I'm not either. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:17:51 We used to, when we were training bodybuilders, too, is have that, you know, if they were using the machines, was to switch to free weights. because you can pick them up in different configurations and just the free weight itself stabilizing that or using muscles that you don't use when you're using machines. And the concept was fooling the muscles sort of or using them in different ways to get more benefit out. But even then, you know, there's another form of hitting the wall
Starting point is 00:18:31 which marathon runners have, when they run out of glycogen, which is why marathon runners need to carbload. My friend's daughter, who's a NASCAR, she's on my Instagram, her name is Lexi Arnold, she's going to be huge in the NASCAR circuit once she gets up there. She's working her way up to it. And seriously, they're going to go, you know, Danica, who, you met her at the wedding. Yeah. Oh, okay.
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Starting point is 00:19:15 I feel weird saying that. I'm just saying that just for people to know why when she gets out on NASCAR, even if she comes in the middle of the pack, they're all going to go. Danica, who? Mm-hmm. So anyway. but I've known her since she's a little kid, so it's not appropriate for me to say she's a 12. I don't think of her that way, but I mean, she... But she appreciate beauty.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah, she is. She's gorgeous, and it's just fascinating to me that she wants to, you know, race cars and go fast around the curve and just turn left, turn left, turn left, turn left all the time. But the reason I bring this up is she was car bloating yesterday, and I'm like, honey, you don't have to do that. You're not going to run out of glycogen driving a car. But that's a different wall where people run out of carbohydrates rapidly metabolized carbohydrates for quick energy. And so the marathon runner's got to store up a lot of that glycogen, so they do need to carb load. I think there's not good evidence for other people. But anyway, so let's let him finish his question.
Starting point is 00:20:25 and then we'll talk a little bit more about diminishing returns. I try to walk my neighborhood every morning, five days a week, usually about, you know, just over two miles. But then that's pretty much it. And I sit at a desk, and, you know, I work from home. I try to get up and moving around, but sometimes you just kind of get lost in the work. Yeah, and then you buy a Peloton, and it's really good for hanging your clothes on, you know. Good. So what I bought was one of those little under the desk ellipticals, and I've really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It's actually been a lot of fun. It's pretty cool. Yeah. And I can feel that it's like, you know, moving my legs, of course. I'm going to say this right now. The under the desk elliptical is probably good for preventing deep venous thrombosis. Right. Very little else.
Starting point is 00:21:09 If your heart rate isn't increasing and you're not feeling that lactic acid burn in your legs, it's not doing very much. But, you know, if the machine says, you know, you can do it for a half hour, take a little break. do for a half hour, take a little break. You know, does the body get to a point where it's like, you know, no matter what you're doing throughout the day, you're not really helping yourself, as in burning calories. Yeah. Well, okay. So let's talk about that.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yes, there are diminishing returns. Yes. But that doesn't mean don't to stop doing it. Right. You have to maintain it. Right. And that is a continuing benefit if you are maintaining. it. So, yes, when you say diminishing returns as far as how big can you make your muscles,
Starting point is 00:22:00 how much can you bench press, you know, you start off, you can do 80 and then you get up, you know, once you get past about 200, unless you're an elite athlete, you're not going to be benching that much more. Now, just walking around your neighborhood and doing this thing, if you want to advance, you have to advance the exercise. You know, either got to walk faster, or you've got to wear those shoes that burn more calories, or you've got to carry weights with you, or you start running, which I'm not a big fan of. But something, you have to increase the intensity, or yeah, you're right, you're just going to maintain what you got.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Dr. Scott. And I was going to add to that, too, if you're just sitting at your desk and you're just slowly peddling throughout the day, you're still using energy. Correct. So you may not be building a whole lot more strength of it, but you're burning energy calories. Yeah. So that's actually a benefit. So you could probably calculate that too based on how high your heart rate
Starting point is 00:22:57 is going and all that stuff. Well, even if you don't, yeah, but even if you don't get your heart rate up, you're still moving those muscles in your leg. Sure. You're still getting some caloric. How many calories do you burn on a treadmill? Let's say you do 30 minutes on a treadmill at 10
Starting point is 00:23:13 degrees. I know the answer to this. I don't know. A hundred. 400. Yeah. Okay. How much do you burn having interquential? course. I just did this for Dave Landau's normal world. A hundred. Per 10 seconds. Yeah, you burn 100.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Some of us have a heart rate. So, doing this thing under the desk, you're not going to be burning many calories, but more than zero. More than zero. More than if you're sitting there. And that's my, that's my thing. I'm not being difficult. I'm just saying. No, I'm not saying you're being difficult. But it's better than sitting there. It's better than being static. I agree with that. Period. Yeah. Agree with that.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Anything. Yeah, do anything. For some of them. I wish they had those on planes. There would be fewer DVTs on planes. I mean, it wouldn't be real hard to put in. You know, they don't have to spin.
Starting point is 00:23:59 You can just push pedals like a foot. Yeah. Yeah. But even Dr. Steve, you know, as well as I do. For international flights, they should have. They should. But, you know, truck drivers, if there are some way, they could pump their feet and not, you know, wreck, you know, not have an issue of driving.
Starting point is 00:24:14 A lot of them. Just to move, just to move something. Yeah. Anything. Yeah, because that prolonged sitting is not good for you. It's awful for you. It's awful. It really isn't.
Starting point is 00:24:21 So, yeah, I'm with him. But if he wants to, if he wants to continue to stay active, continue doing that, and I think the 30-minute thing they probably say to cover their asses. Right, right, right. That would be my guess. But if he wants, but if he truly wants to make some gains, I'm with you. You've got increased intensity. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You've got to add weight. Put some weights on your knees. Yeah. Or put some. Back back. Well, I'm just saying if he's sitting in a peddle and put your ankle weights on your feet. Oh, yeah. I mean, something like that will make it work harder.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Sure. That'll build up strength over time. Yep. So, yeah, I think all of those are good ideas. Something that we probably should try her. Lady diagnosis, she got any, anything to add to that? Because she's the exercise queen. Well, moving is always better than not.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So anything you can do. And then, like you said, just add to it. Motion is lotion is what the PM and R doctors say. Loatio for your body. Is that what they say? Yeah, they do. Yeah. Oh, funny.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Oh, my God. All right. Let's see what else are got here. Good question, no, good question. Excellent question. All right, here we go. This will be interesting. Hey, Dr. Steve, it's Mike in New York.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I was reading up on chimeras a little bit. And this one singer and model, Taylor Mules, they say, she's a chimera. And they say he has two sets of DNA, two immune systems, and two bloodstreams. How do you have two bloodstreams? You only got one heart. All your two different, your blood should all mix together. no heart or what's to deal with that. Thanks a lot, man. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Bye. Well, she's got one bloodstream. She might have two different blood types, maybe, but that is even weird. I don't know this Taylor Mule. It's M-U-H-L. What was the first part of that? Camarism. Okay, so let's talk about Camara first. That's an organism whose cells originate from two different fertilized eggs.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And I remember the first time I heard. heard about this was on some murder mystery where the guy was a chimera and he had a twin brother. But there was a, so there were two identical twins, but there was a third twin and that overmerged with one of the twins. So he had different DNA than the identical twin. So when he committed the murder, he gave a DNA sample. And they said, oh, gosh, you guys aren't identical. But it was his, he did it, but what he left behind was different DNA, which was the same as the identical twin, which, you know, implied, you know, him until they find out this guy was a chimera. Sounds like an X-File.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah, kind of like that. I don't have actually been on the X-Files. But the organism has two or more sets of DNA and making it a, you know, a genetic mosaic. And they do occur naturally. They can also be created in the lab. So sometimes fetal cells will cross the placenta and enter the mother's bloodstream remaining there for years. That's called fetal maternal microchamarism, where you can detect the kids' DNA in the mother's bloodstream sometimes. And then twin chimerism, if fraternal twins fuse or exchange cells during development, the surviving twin can have.
Starting point is 00:27:48 cells from their sibling. And so there's this thing called Vanishing Twin Syndrome, where a twin is absorbed by the other twin during pregnancy, and the surviving twin can become a chimera exhibiting traits from both individuals. Pretty interesting. Now, it says here, I'm looking at an article about this, it does say that individuals can have two different blood types due to chimera, as I'm often identified through routine blood typing. So let's see this
Starting point is 00:28:20 Taylor Mule. Taylor Mule? M-U-H-L. Okay. Okay. Oh, so now she's having a problem from it. It compromises my immune
Starting point is 00:28:34 system, making it lower than an average person causing me many autoimmune health issues because her body is reacting to the twins' DNA and the cells as foreign matter. So you know, So like it's an infection?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Kind of. You know, it's almost like her body's acting like it's a tumor or something. And it's just constantly causing inflammation that's causing her all kinds of problems. And not all chimeras will have this problem. But apparently she does. So, you know, she absorbed her. Now, she says here she has a physical trait that you can see on the outside, which is mostly not true.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Let's see here. I was born with a physical trait that caused me to have two different colors of skin pigmentation that split down the center of my torso, front and back, but only on the left side of my body. The second color pigmentation
Starting point is 00:29:30 is my twin sister's genetic makeup. It's always visible on my torso, but it can become more or less prominent when my body temperature changes. Oh, my goodness. Oh, look at this picture of her. Yeah, I can see that. Wow, that's really something.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You've got to Google image that. I can't show it. on the other side, but wow. It looks like a port wine kind of thing, doesn't it? It does. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow, wow. That's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Weird. Split dead down the middle. Mm-hmm. Yep. Wow, that's kind of wild. It is wild. Anyway, so there you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Was there a question in there? No, he just was interested about it. He said, how do you have two blood streams? That's not what's happening. She has two blood types. All right. Let's do this one. Thank you, Mike.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Good. Yeah, Mike's good. You know, we were sitting there, and an old bartender looked over at us and said, Who's that coming across the desert, saying, well, they all looked out the window, and lo and behold, it was. Oh, Dr. Waku-Wan. He's coming at us, kind of slow, aged with time. Okay. Thank you, David Haynes.
Starting point is 00:30:37 He's a wonderful artist and a very odd phone message lever. Okay, we have a question from Ray DeVito, and I'm going to do it on the next show because it's going to require some lengthy response. All right, let's see what this one is. Hey, Dr. Steve, I'm a longtime follower of the old ONA show and a long time follower of you and your fluids. Give thyself a question. My old man had hypothyroidism. He got put on cynthroid, they up his dose. He lost his gut without having to do a thing.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I get put on cynthroid. My numbers were similar to his, but borderline. They're saying the minimum dose is great, and I still have a gut. So what are my options to get rid of this gut without? With no effort. Right, with no effort. Yeah, some people respond to cynthroid that way, and some doctors are more aggressive with the cynthroid, too.
Starting point is 00:31:38 You know, the thyroid does impact your body's metabolism speed, and when people have a really low thyroid and then they start taking the thyroid, it revs up their metabolism to the point where they start shedding pounds. Now, there are some doctors, some of my colleagues that are very conservative about this, and they only look at numbers. So I'm going to tell you assholes out there of my, of my, what? No, they're crazy when I do that. Yeah, okay. I'm with you. I'm saying I was crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:19 No, hell no. You're making. No, I'm with you. Yeah. Okay, so you, my colleagues, I'm speaking to my colleagues, assholes, stop looking at people like numbers on a piece of paper. We've talked on this show multiple, multiple times about the fact that, um, you know, low testosterone is not a number on a piece of paper. Low normal testosterone is probably something you should be treating,
Starting point is 00:32:51 particularly if the patient is symptomatic. You can't take someone with classic symptoms of hypogonadism and the low in your lab is 400 and their testosterone is 405 and go, well, it's normal. It ain't that. You're being stupid. You're not remembering that 95% of people with hypogonadism are undiagnosed. So when they develop the normal, they're including a bunch of people that have low testosterone.
Starting point is 00:33:25 So it skews the normal south. So don't be an asshole. Same thing with thyroid. I wish Tacey were here right now because this is her pet peeve. She had a doctor that was like, nope, your numbers are normal. And she was like, but I feel like shit. Well, it must be something else. It's like, no, it's the Hashimoto's.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So don't be one of those. Stop. Don't be an ass. Looking at numbers on a piece of paper and defining patients from that. You've got to look at the whole patient. Talk to the whole patient and find out, you know, if maybe it would be appropriate, even if their numbers are, quote, unquote, nominally normal. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:08 All right. Overcame my rant is over for the day. Now I'm mad. Good rant. Me too. Damn it. Stupid doctors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Well, some of my colleagues are just, they're not thinking. Oh, Amanda Davis, say, hello Amanda. I hope you're doing well. So she had a cycling friend with a genetic condition of lactic acid buildup. That stuff can be bad. Yes, if they can't metabolize it and turn it back into its. components, that that's a problem. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah, maybe we could talk about that. All right. Oh, McRibs has a vitreous hemorrhage. We're going to talk about that on the next show. So stand by for that. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Dr. Scott. Thanks, Lady Diagnosis.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Thanks to everyone who's made this show happen over the years. And thanks to our listeners whose voicemail and topic ideas make this job very easy. Go to our website at Dr.steve.com for schedules, podcasts, and other crap. until next time check your stupid nuts for lumps quit smoking get off your asses get some exercise we'll see you in one week for the next edition of weird medicine thanks everybody oh by the way join us at youtube.com slash at weird medicine for uh live recording i don't want to call it a live stream it's not really that we just record us doing the podcast and now you're welcome to join us and hang out in the in the waiting room with the fluid family all right thanks everybody
Starting point is 00:35:37 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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