Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 649 - The Fragrance of Elderly Skin

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

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10, 20, 50 memberships. And we do do some members-only content. it's usually when I upload a Dr. Steve presents, it goes to the members first. All right. So very good. Now, Lexi, I did forget that you have a gift bag there.

Yes, I saw. You don't have to open it on the air, but you can if you want to. I'm kind of intrigued. I kind of want you to see what's in there, actually. Okay. So we've got some coasters. That'll be in my new apartment. Show those.

Can't go wrong. Yep, there you go. I have more of those. If you want more, I only gave you two. Two of them because I'm a cheese cutter. No, open it a hot. Take it out. A cheese cutter?

Nope. Let me tell you what that is. That is a pizza cutter and it was made by children in Bolivia, believe it or not. My brother does a mission down there and they, he's like the good guy in the family. And he taught them how to turn stuff on the lathe and how to make those things and put them together and they sell them to raise money for the mission down there. That is beautiful. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's the coolest pizza cutter I've ever seen.

And if you hold it up, it is absolute, you know, beautiful chrome and everything. Yeah, it's really nice. That's cool, man. I used that two days ago. Well, okay. Now I got it. No, perfect. No, it's perfect.

That's super cool. And then you just got a, oh. Do I have a drinking game over here? Look at that. Dapple Dice. I wonder where that came from. I wonder who gave you that. It is a Saturday.

I'll take care of this to not. Okay. Very good. Let's see. We've got a couple of pans. Is it, is, do you relish your freedom? Because I know when you were cheering, you had a certain person in your family that was pretty strict about what you had, could eat and drink and all that kind of stuff. I'll be honest.

Not really. I'm a little bit here and there, you know. Because of your racing now, you've got to. Because of my racing, I kind of have to walk in, you know. Mom was right after all. Mom was right. Te-he. But there are a few knots where I like to have a little bit of fun.

You know, I didn't drink until I was 21. Never had a fake. Yeah. He hated drink and hated everything. And we've changed since then. So this game will come into play. If you've ever listened to the show, which I don't know why you would have, one of our sort of creeds is everything in moderation, including everything in moderation, meaning I expect you to wear those stickers at the track.

I mean, those pins at the trap. I'm just kidding. Meaning that every once in a while, you've got to blow it out your ass. You know, you've got to blow out the pipes every once in a while. Just do it safe. Every once in a while, yeah. Anyway, but thank you for coming. No, thank you for having it.

When we have prominent guests that come to the studio, they get a little gift bag. No, thank you for all of it. You're welcome. Whatever. I only gave you two coasters because I didn't want you having a party, but I guess if you need more, I can give you some more. You know me well All right

Yeah I see some questions are flooding in Let's do a couple of the pre Predetermined questions And then we'll get to the fluid family Great All right here we go Hey Dr. Steve Hey man

Listen I love the show Thanks You guys great obviously You've been listening to you For a very long time Thanks man I was just listening to the Don't Eat at the Y

episode which I found very interesting but you had a caller with the question, 2015. What are you doing? Why are you so far behind, dude? I don't know. Forever ago. Come on, but hurry on, hurry on.

Get through these calls. Okay, so we are finally have gotten through all the calls that were in the voicemail queue. And we had voicemails going back to 2015, so they were 10 years old. And I remember one guy called, and it was kind of an emergency. I'm like, shit, I hope he's okay. Don't call a radio show if you got an emergency. Call 911. But we're finally through with all of those.

But I'm just going to tell you, I can't count these, but I have pages and pages of voicemails that I did respond to that we never got to on the show. Scott, it's got to be 3,000. Goodness. And some of them go back to 2008. Oh, look at this. Here's Asmaget with their hit F the Decade. Hang on a second. Let's hear that real quick.

I just found that at the very bottom of the list. Here we go. Oh, my. We didn't have good recording equipment back then, but that was my grindcore band, ass maggot. There you go. All right.

Let's see if there's anything good in the middle of that. Nope, sounds all the same. Sounds like Lexi on a Saturday night going to run that track. Watch yourself. 150 miles an hour. It looks like a fractal

that wherever you zoom in it looks exactly the same. So that's, well, that's that kind of music. Anyway, but that's, yeah, we are no longer behind. We're no longer I love the show You guys great

Obviously Thank you I think you I think you For a very long time So I just listen Okay There we go

Yeah So we are caught up on that But we are not caught up On the backlog of calls And then this last two weeks We got a shitload Of regular phone calls

So let's Let's take some of these So we don't get any from Amen The blue family I got a little personal question to ask you. Out of your, you know, a couple of days that you've worked in medicine since, you know, Noah's Argoner. Yeah.

Have you personally ever witnessed something that you would consider to be a true miracle? Yeah, that's a great question. I can say yes to that. What about you, Scott? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, the problem is we have to be careful. because of HIPAA. But I, let's just say, how can I put this, that there was someone who everyone, this won't

identify anybody, and this was 40 years ago, where everyone in the room that was seeing them was saying, this person's going to die, this person's going to die. And there was no reason why they were wrong, right? The condition that this person had, nobody survives it, okay? And it's not a cancer diagnosis and not a cardiac diagnosis. So you can go be kind of, you know, it was in that realm of neither one of those. But it's one of those things that when it happens, people don't survive. I was a lowly intern and just, you know, said, you know, we believe in miracles.

I can't write an order for one, but that's what's going to take. And that guy got up out of that bed and was walking around. And when I went in there, the family was all mad at everybody but me because they said we got that miracle that we talked about, right? Because everybody else was just saying, now there's no hope. And I only bring this up as a cautionary tale to everyone out there, particularly if you're in the medical field and particularly medical students and residents that are listening. of this, and there are a few, you be careful when you're hanging crape in people's rooms because every once in a while you're going to be proven wrong. If you're trying to get someone to go to comfort-focused treatment and they get better,

they're going to be mad and they're going to be mad at you, right? So you got to really know when to have those conversations and how to give yourself an out, which would be, in my case, just saying, you know, it would take a miracle, but we've seen them. You know, it happens. You know. But anyway, what about you? I can think of a couple, but one I can share comfortably a really massive blood clot

from the growing to the ankle, in-stage cancer. They didn't think it was going to resolve. And the individuals in such a terrible shape on the back for weeks, foot slightly elevated because any time you let the foot down the blow would start to pull up in the leg and pardon me, terrible, terrible pain. The only time they could get up was to go to the bathroom.

It was just awful. We had a friend do some for like. The camera's been on Lexi. Not that anybody's going to complain about that. Everybody has seen my old grade. All I could see is the microphone in front of her face. My fault, my fault.

No, it's not your fault. But yeah, we did some energy work on I had a friend do some energy work or healing touch, whatever you want to call it. Whatever you call it. And about six hours later that the blood clot had resolved enough, and we were still doing therapeutic treatments, you know, regular medicine treatments too.

But, I mean, right after we did that, the clot started getting better than within, by the evening was up walking around with no pain. And one day? Yeah, within hours. Wow. Yeah, within hours, you know. And even if I told you it was.

of somebody just rubbing and waving their hands over them. To a certain degree. Yeah. But there was other things. Healing touch kind of. It was a lot of stuff. But we did not just continue. But not traditional stuff.

Well, in addition to some traditional stuff, but the traditional stuff had not gotten anywhere in two weeks. Correct. But you would know these people I told. Yeah. But, yeah, it was insane. It was just the, it was literally the most incredible thing I've ever seen. Wow. This was up walking around, like never had the blood clot.

Wow. And that's something. It was fast. Yeah, it was just fast. Yeah. And you can pause it all kinds of. When we say miracle, what we're talking about are medical things that happen that we can't explain. We can't explain.

Yep. And there may be. There may be. That are so unexpected that they defy logic. But if you delved into it, you might be able to find a mechanism. Oh, of course. You know, by which that happened. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. But anyway. I mean, hell, that might have happened anyway. Yeah. You know, you just don't know. Now, the only supernatural thing that ever happened to me was I was, my mom was dying. That's why I'm in the. job that I'm in. And I had gone to see her and, you know, I'd said goodbye. She didn't want

anybody around. And it was bad. I mean, it was bad. What was going on with her. She died over the space of, you know, two years. And in the end, it was two weeks of just abject misery. And I'm sitting on my front porch and my girlfriend at the time was in the house. And she was getting something. And I was just sitting out on the front porch of my house. And all of a sudden I had this intense vision. I don't want to say vision, but impression in my head where I saw from my vantage point, myself being born. Oh, wow. And then I saw all these images of my mom and me, but none of the crazy stuff, you know, that made me, you know,

part of the you are. You have to go to counseling for 40 years. but just only the good stuff because there was good stuff and there was a lot of good stuff and I saw all that good stuff and it got faster and faster and faster until it hit the present

and as soon as it hit the present and this happened over maybe a minute 30 seconds something like that and I was kind of like back in my chair like Dave Bowman at the end of 2001 and as soon as it ended the phone rang and it was my brother saying she had just died

oh my God now that and then I I told my brother, but I said, oh, you probably had those same images a million times. He just noticed it because I just called you, you know, because he's a, he's quite the empiricist. And I am too, but this was so intense. It was hard to ignore it, you know, but anyway. So that's the only sort of miraculous, vaguely, you know, extra sensory thing that I can. Can I make it real quick one?

Yeah, of course. So I had an old guy who was a Korean War veteran, and he came in one day, and he was, he was, he was at the end of his life. And he told me, he goes, you know, Dr. We're so big on violating HIPAA, but I guess it doesn't apply to you. Yeah. Well, I have, they have to do HIPAA with me too. Oh, do you there? Okay. No, he wouldn't care. He's, he's deceased. Okay. All right. This is Dr. Scott. Tell him this story. Listen, here's the bottom line. Yeah. The bottom line is, he says, hey, Dr. Scott, my brother Rudy came to visit me last night, and his brother Rudy had been dead for years. Oh, yeah. He said, I'll, he goes, I'll see you in 18.

And he looked at me, he goes, what do you think 18 means? And I looked at him, I said, well, I know it's not 18 minutes. Yeah. And I guarantee it it's not 18 years. So I'm pretty sure it's probably going to be somewhere. 18 days or 18 months or 18 weeks, right? Let's say 18 months. Okay.

And I swear to you, I was over a local establishment here where we both work occasionally and ran into his daughter. I'm like, what are you doing here? She's like, well, dad's up here getting ready to move on out here. And I was like, oh, my God. And I went back, and it was literally 18 months. He was gone. Wow.

It was to the, I mean, it was fascinating. Wow. I don't want my brother telling me anything like that. That's a shitty thing to tell somebody. No, no, his brother was deceased and came back. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. It was, yeah, it's great.

Don't tell me. Let me, let it be a mystery. We won't know and that's okay. Anyway. That's funny. Cool, man. Yeah, Loveett says I saw my mom after she passed the room filled with joy like I've never known. I knew she was in a better place.

I, you know. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, I see. In my job, I hear of these things all the time. So I guess we'll find out someday, hopefully. Anyway. The crap thing was if we won't know it.

Yeah. Either we'll be dead and there's nothing or we'll go, oh, shit. Oh, now I get it. Now I get it. That's like me. Somebody gave me candy panties once. Lexi, don't listen to this. and they gave me candy pants

and I thought you put them on and then you took them off and ate them and it was like, why? Yeah, no. And then it was like two years later I'm walking down the street and it hit me and I went, oh. I am, sometimes things just go over my head.

Now what on the street made it hit you? Nothing. Oh, boy. I was just walking down the street and it just all of a sudden it dawned on me. I think my brain must have been working on that problem the whole time. Back in the back corner.

Yeah, yeah, it's called the Eureka phenomenon. But I'm sad that it was all that brainpower in the background was going toward that. Now, what does, what do you do with candy pants? Well, you can fry them up. Well, you can make you cookie out of them. Stupid, I'm an idiot. All right, let's do this one. That's a good one.

Hi, Dr. Steve. It's Tom from Michigan. Hey, Tom. I have a question that may not be so much medical related. It is. as it has to do with medical facilities. Yep. Why is it that every nursing home has the same smell?

Ooh, that's a good one. It's to the point where if you blindfolded somebody and walked them through the vestibule of a nursing home, they would know exactly where they're at. Okay, there's an actual reason for this. First off, they often smell like bodily fluids because there are, you know, there's a lot of incommel. continents in certain sections of the nursing facility, anticeptic cleaners, medicated creams, that stuff. But there is a distinctive, musty, slash grassy, very distinctive, unforgettable scent called nonial. And what nonial is is caused by a certain oil that kind of turns on. old people's skin and it's two nonial is the is the is the generic name for it

well there's not a trade name for it nobody's selling it but the you know the chemical name for it it's an unsaturated fatty aldehyde and we know aldehyde smell and it forms on the skin normally as omega-7 fatty acids and then lipid oxides It's break down, it's accelerated by aging, and reduced antioxidant protection in the skin. And it has, like I said, a greasy or musty scent. And if you want to know how to pronounce it, here's a YouTube video that it's... You are looking at Julian's pronunciation guide where we look at how to pronounce better, some of the most mispronounced words in the world like this other curious word,

but how do you say what you're looking for today? Word pronunciation, English. Oh, my God. None and all. No. None and all. I said no, it's none and all. No, is this on everyone's skin?

No. So you have omega-6 fatty acids in your skin, but as you get older, they break down faster because you don't have the antioxidants out there, and so they oxidize and they turn into sort of rancid fatty acid that has this funny smell. So there you go. Interesting. No, no, no.

All right? So, very interesting. Very interesting. Well, I give myself a damn bell. Give yourself a bell. Get your hand off my penis! All right. Now, here's... Hi, Dr. Steve.

This summer, I had an ICD placed after two cardiac arrests. Oh, my God. Okay, an ICD is a defibrillator. It's an implantable cardiac defibrillator. So if your heart is prone to stopping,

it will shock you. It will detect when it stops or gets a pulseless rhythm and then it will shock it back. Because we all know the quicker that you attack something like this, the quicker it'll turn around. Okay? All right.

So that's what that's about. I'm wondering, what would happen if I was to, let's say, have a blood clot in my leg that went to my heart and started throwing out like I guess the heart would send out the blood clot. What would

happen? Yeah. So what he's talking about is a pulmonary embolism. You get a blood clot in your leg. I'm sure racers who do endurance racing have to worry about this. People, pilots have to worry about it. People who are on long distance

car rides or plane rides have to worry about it when the venous blood pulls in the legs. If it's below the knee, not a big deal. It causes pain and, you know, discomfort and swelling. But if it's above the knee, it can move up into the heart.

If it's big enough, it can cause a thing called a saddle pulmonary embolism where it just cuts off the blood supply going to the lung. So the heart, it goes up. The vein, gets into the

inferior vena cava, which which is the large vein feeding the heart, goes to the right side of the heart and then gets pumped out to the lung. Normally what's supposed to happen is the lung oxygenates that, and then the pulmonary vein, which actually has arterial blood in it, it's crazy,

but vein and artery has to do with what direction the blood is flowing. Is it to the heart or away from the heart? Again. Or again, again, the heart. So that blood, the oxygenated blood is supposed to go to the left side of the heart and then get pumped out to the rest of the body. Well, when you have a giant embolism and it goes to both branches of the pulmonary artery, no blood can be transmitted, and then the patient will inevitably die if there is not a very rapid resolution of that blood clot, right? So, if that happened to someone that had one of these implantable defibrillators, when their heart stopped because there was no more blood being transmitted to the body, the implantable cardioverter or defibrillator would fire.

And the heart might beat a time or two, but then it would realize I'm beating it with nothing and it would stop again. And so it would fire and it would keep firing until the, you know, someone turns it off or if there's an internal program that says only fire a certain number of times. Gotcha. So it would not help that situation. It would fire. Anybody touching you would get a, you know, a shock. But it wouldn't do anything other than that. So after how many heart attacks would that come into play? Well, or cardiac arrest. He had cardiac arrest. So I'm assuming he had two at the same time. You know, like in the same hospitalization, and it was probably he had an arrhythmia. So the cardiologist said, listen, we can, this is going to happen again, even if we put you on medication to prevent it. Because we have anti-arhythmic medications that we can give, but we would like to have a backup plan. And so now if his heart stops again, it'll boom, it'll knock it back into place.

Knock it back into place, but it'll shock it and start it back up again. Okay? All right. Hello, Dr. Steve. Hello. Hey, Scott. With Lewin family, here's a little bit of a peculiar question. Can food...

Wait a minute. Unlike all the other ones. Fear with somebody's anxieties. Interfere. Can foods interfere with somebody's anxieties? Excellent. Or can they cause anxieties like... The one thing about Stacey.

is his questions are always good. You can't crap on him for that. These are always excellent questions. You know, too much bread and the glutons. Can that psychologically tweak somebody a little? Well, if you're

gluten-sensitive, it certainly can. It'll make you physically feel like shit, which then can make you mentally feel like shit. But, you know, diets low in magnesium have been found to increase anxiety-related behavior.

And this is mostly in mice, but it most likely translates into humans because foods naturally rich in magnesium, like leafy greens, spinach, swish, chard, and legumes, nuts, seeds, and whole grains tend to make people less anxious. And magnesium supplementation certainly does. So another one, foods rich in zinc, that would be oysters, cashews, liver, beef. Listen, Oscar Meyer, Brownschweger, greatest thing in the world, but my mom used to make me eat balls of it. So, you know, you grow up eating certain things. You don't hate them so much. But I want everyone to right now Google Prairie Belt Sausage. and I want you to look at the ingredients

and that's all I'm going to say no spoilers but you'll first off the little kid on the can looks like he's getting ready to vomit but they put him on there it must be somebody's grandson or something but it's just a drawing

like a chalk drawing of this kid and he literally looks like he's getting ready to puke and when you read the ingredients you'll see why all right so anyway it's pork spleen. Other foods, including fatty fish, contain omega-3 fatty acids. And their study that they did on medical students in 2011 was one of the first to show that omega-3s may help reduce

anxiety. I know that when my kids were diagnosed with ADHD, they wanted them on omega-3s as well. You know, so anyway. Can I take it from there? Yes, of course. A couple other things that will increase anxiety, certainly caffeine. Ah, yeah. Caffeine is going to stimulate your sympathetic nervous system. Give myself a bell. Food, some really high sugar foods.

If they increase your energy too much and then increase your, again, your sympathetic nervous system. Because too stirred up, you'll get anxiety. I cannot drink coffee because it causes anxiety. You know what else causes anxiety is a hangover for me. So I really, I don't drink hardly at all. anymore. But when I do, if I drink enough to get hung over, anxiety is my number one symptom the next day. Here's a traditional Chinese medicine one that Chinese government approved the use of a certain extract as a natural functional food and beverage ingredient due to its

anti-anxiety properties. Do you know what that might have been? Estragalus. It's close. Asparagus. Spargas, oh, my gosh. Yeah, it was asparagus. That's cool. That's cool. That's why I love asparagus. Yeah, some feel-good food spur the release of neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine, and so, you know, it's a safe and easy way to manage anxiety, so.

Can I chime in? Yes, of course. Amazing. So how does, do you think ADHD medicines have a correlation into depression and anxiety? This question was about anxiety, so I thought that. You mean the medication itself? The medication itself. You know, the transition will say an older teen.

Yeah. Older teen. So there are some anti, some focus medications that are based on antidepressants. One of those is admoxatine and the other one. I can't remember the generic name, but it's sold under the trade name, Stratera. And those, all of those can increase depression in people. Now, one of my kids took stimulants and it gave him ticks where he started pulling his hair out and making his face would contort and so he had to get him off of that and on to the other one. But that's not real common now.

The other thing is we will treat adults who are terminally ill with ADHD medication like, I don't know, well, like, like, exhamphetamine. And we will do that because they don't have 12 weeks for typical antidepressants to kick in. So it does help with depression and fatigue and all of that stuff. Now, any medication can cause depression. What's your question based on? Were you put on something or did you just have an academic interest in it? Yeah. Well, I used to have really bad ADHD. You've known me my whole life growing up. It was always a squirrel or polar bear in the room. And I actually got off of them Once I got out of high school and went into college and then college, I don't know if it was just transitioned from that or what, but it definitely hit a little coming off of them. Downs.

Yes. Okay, well, they're uppers. And so when you come off of them, it's a downer. Now, it shouldn't have lasted very long, but if you actually went through acute withdrawal from stimulants, you know, you can get this thing called acute post-withdrawal syndrome that can last up to two years where you have depression and anxiety. things like that. It's mostly from opioids, but you can get it from withdrawal from anything that your body's habituated too. Interesting. I don't know that. So if I had been in charge of your medication, I would have tapered you off of that if you wanted to get off of it. The other thing is I probably would have continued it through college. Yeah. Well, that was my problem. I just quit just

like that. Yeah. So everything just kind of. Yeah. That's, yes, quitting it is absolutely associated with symptoms like that. My kids took it all through college because they just didn't want to put themselves at risk. They weren't sure. And college was too important to them compared to high school. Agreed, yeah. And, you know, people talk about, well, you know, we're doping kids up because they act out. That wasn't it at all.

I was against it. Really? And then, but the pediatrician said, listen, we were not. here to dope them up. What we're here to do is to allow them to succeed in school and in their other, you know, endeavors. Because they cannot succeed. And then with the level of ADHD that they had. And then I realized it made me think back in 1960. I was in kindergarten. And then 61, 62, I was labeled as an underachiever. And because I had ADHD, Well, they didn't know what it was. Yeah. And I was stupid Steve, you know. I would get C's and maybe a D and maybe a B if I was lucky and stuff.

And I was just bouncing off the wall. I had ADHD. I looked back at it, but they didn't know what it was. Well, then I took the first exam, the standardized exam, I think in the fifth grade, maybe sixth grade. Got 99th percentile. My parents were like, what the fuck? So rather than being. an obnoxious kid now I was an

underachiever and then I was stupid Steve and I had to figure out how to use it, you know, how to deal with it myself. What I did do is I learned that I could hyper focus and so if I made myself want to study I had to fool myself to say

this is fun and then it became fun and then I could hyper focus on it and that's when I started getting my 4-0 and I got into medical school and all that stuff and I use it now to multitask you know but ADHD

me too I use mine as a fucking sucks I know do you think it goes away does it no no no

but see you learn to use it you're using it I know learn to use it you're using it not for bad yeah when

when Liam he loves me talking about him but when he was little before we got him on medicine he could play Lego Star Wars

he never even seen a Star Wars movie for hours one day I set the machine up the Wii and just wanted to see how long he would go. And I finally had to stop him after like six hours.

Goodness. Now you're doing the same thing. Now you're using your hyper-focus ability that comes from your ADHD, right, in your racing. Yeah. Yeah. Because you love it and now you're hyper-focused, you're locked in, and that's one of the reasons why you're going to succeed. I did that with medicine. Totally great.

I got one more question. I know you're answering questions. Yes, I'm answering questions. Exactly. Hypomania. What's your hypomania and hypermania? Right. Or that is whenever you have really high highs, you have really low lows. Do you think that's an effect of ADHD in my focus?

Maybe. Or is it an effect of my adrenaline rush from racing? Could be a little bit of both. That's a hard one. There are people that have this thing called cyclothymia. They're not really bipolar. Bipolar people have the true manic episodes and the true deep depression. But there are people who have hypomania.

and then mild, you know, down periods. And it, you know, they keep trying to classify it as a, on the spectrum of bipolar disorder. I have a funny feeling it's a completely different thing. And it can be hormonal. It can be, Scott, you wanted to say something until you were getting one. Don, I'm sorry. I was just, I was, I was, when you to finish your part, but, yeah, I think for you specifically in an adrenaline environment, What happens is your sympathetic nervous systems

It's all the way up there What you have to do What you have to do is teach yourself To increase your your parasympathetic tone Which is going to lower... How's you going to do that? Well, breathing techniques, yeah, breathing techniques In the car, so what she's going to do?

Square breathing in that car Before you start to race, what that'll do is it'll allow you to focus But not be crazy You know? Do you know about square breathing? I don't know But I do know that I have been in trouble by my coaches for not breathing and not talking. They've talked to me on the line before and I haven't been able to respond because I'm not breathing.

Yes. Yeah, it's real easy to hold your breaths when you're under stress like that. So square breathing is a way to manage stress and anxiety and particularly panic attacks too. So when you are under stress, what tends to happen is you hyperventilate, but you don't notice. you can breathe one extra time too many a minute, which you would never notice, and you can still blow off carbon dioxide out of your bloodstream so now it becomes low. And when it becomes low, you get tingling of the fingers, you get tingling around the mouth, and you start feeling palpitations and all these really bad physical symptoms.

Now, there's two ways that you can take care of it. Well, there's lots of ways, actually. But two classic ways. One is to breathe into a paper bag because when you breathe into a paper bag, you're exhaling carbon dioxide, not enough, but you're exhaling some, and then you're inhaling it back in again. And the natural course of that is to increase your carbon dioxide level and those physical symptoms that go away. When the physical symptoms go away, then the mental symptoms get better because it's a vicious cycle, right? Now, when you're driving, you can't do that. But what you can do is you can do a thing called square breathing, so we'll do it now.

So what we're going to do is each leg of this is of equal measure. We usually use four beats. So we're going to inhale for four beats. Hold it for four beats. Exhale for four beats. And then hold it for four beats. and then repeat. Now, when you do that, if you'll count while you're doing it and do each leg equally,

you can only be inhaling or exhaling 25% of the time. So if you're inhaling or exhaling, you're doing something else 75% of the time. You can't hyperventilate, and it will stop it. Within a minute, it'll stop it. It might be something to do before you get into the, you know, or, you know, as you get into the, Yeah, once you get into the car before you're right, yeah. Pull it out and start to get out there as do that square breathing and see if that doesn't help. Yeah, totally.

I'm going to tell you guys something else is completely unrelated to this. But it just reminded me this is a technique I saw on YouTube and I said this is complete bullshit and it's not. And if you ever woken up in the middle of the night, you can't get back to sleep again. You're just laying there. Every night. So really? Okay. Then I want you to try this because I tried it and I said this is bullshit, but I'm going to be.

I'm going to try it, and I did it, and I was like, holy shit. So what you do is that you're going to be simulating REM sleep with your eyes. Okay? So you keep your eyes closed, and while your eyes are closed, you're going to look up with your eyeballs, then look down with your eyeballs, and then look left, and then look to the right. Now, once you've done that, then you're going to sweep around in a circle clockwise, and then you're going to sweep around in a circle anti-clockwise. Now, when I've done that, all of a sudden I wake up and it's two hours later.

Oh, shit. Yep. I'll try it. More than once? No, you can do it as many times you need to. I'm funny. I'll try that. I'm telling you, I thought it was complete horseshit, and I was amazed at how well that were.

Cool. We'll try for sure. So up, down, right left, or left-right doesn't matter. And then I think it's anti-clockwise. anti-clockwise and then clockwise. But really what you're doing is you're fooling the brain into thinking that it's in REM sleep. Interesting. Because the body is weird.

You can be depressed. You can become depressed and then you'll have decreased serotonin in your brain. Or you can have a deficit in serotonin in your brain. You'll become depressed. And this is the kind of same thing is that when you have REM sleep, your eyes move back and forth in your head. and when you want to induce REM sleep, you can move your eyes back and forth in your head and you can induce it.

It's the same way that not AMSR, EMDR works. MDR, right, right, right. Yeah, that's a psychological technique where they have lights that move back and forth and it helps to lock in things in your brain because the brain acts like you're in REM sleep, which is when you're processing information. I know.

Pretty cool. Anyway, all right. All right. All right. Let's see here. You got anything from the fluid family? We got a couple. Well, I do, I do want to do this, this one, and then we'll get to those again.

Hi, Dr. Steve and weird medicine crew. Hello. Hopefully, you don't use the first call I used. Okay. I froze. Anyway, my question was about... You need to use square breathing, my friend. Mic drop.

Lucid dreaming. And how maybe you could better navigate that. Okay. and why it happened. Okay. Will you explain that to me? I have no idea. From an outsider's perspective, will you explain that to me?

Have you ever had lucid dreaming? I don't know what it is. Oh, okay. Lucid dreaming is when you're dreaming, you believe all kinds of ridiculous things. Like, I had a dream that Paris was in my backyard one day, and I walked out the backyard, and there's the Eiffel Tower, and it's like, why have I been getting on a plane to go to Europe when it was in my backyard all this time? What a dumbass.

I want what he's on. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I'm just stupid. I guess I must be an idiot, but it was just my gullible dream brain. Is that when you're falling? Like you feel like you're physically falling in your sleep and you wake up out of nowhere? Oh, that's something different. That's a hypnagogic episode.

That's like if you're, you will have it that you're just falling into sleep and all of a sudden a car is going to come out of nowhere and you're going to ram into them. And then you're going to wake up. That's called a hypnagogic episode. Scott has it, he sees a baseball. I see a soccer ball because I played soccer. But everybody will have something like that. And hypnagogic episodes are always happen when you're going from non-sleep to sleep. And then something will, or you may just feel like you're falling.

And then you'll wake up all of a sudden. So this is a little different. This is going, these are hypnopompic episodes where you're going from sleep to non-sleep. And some switch in your brain is not working properly. and you wake up, but you're still dreaming. So the conscious part of your brain turns on and all of the truth understanding and not believing in Paris being in your backyard circuits

are now active, but you're still dreaming. Okay. I've had this where I could see everything in my room, but I was paralyzed, and I couldn't move because when you're in REM sleep, your body is paralyzed because it doesn't want you running around, acting out your dreams. That's where sleepwalking comes from.

So there are all these little switches that all have to work. And when any one of them doesn't work, different things happen. Right. So if the paralysis switch doesn't turn on, you get up out of bed and you start walking around. If the paralysis switch is on but the consciousness, unconscious switch is not turned on, then you wake up and you're paralyzed and you're still dreaming. And I would hear, like, paper fluttering around me, like it was in 3D, perfect 3D. I could see the room, everything. I could see my counter.

I could see the wallpaper on the wall. But none of this was real. You know, my eyes were closed, but I could see it. And I remember I willed myself, the last time this happened to me, I willed myself to sit up. I wasn't, I didn't actually sit up. I levitated up because I couldn't sit up, but I could levitate up. And then I looked over to the left and I saw a gurney, a hospital gurney next to my bed. And all of it scared me and I just woke up real quick.

And then, but when I woke up, I was laying down. It was dark in the room, all that stuff. So it shows you a couple of things. The mental map that you have in your brain is pretty perfect because I could see every detail in my room as if I were awake. And that this thing is exploitable. Was this deep sleep you're in? You're emerging from sleep, so you're most likely in that late REM sleep thing when this happens. But there are people that can harness it and they can go wherever they want, they can fly.

That's awesome. You know, Anthony Coomia goes and has intercourse with all kinds of, you know, women and his dreams. He's talked about it. I'm not saying anything out of school. And I have another friend who has this that can kind of harness it. But so if you, Tacey, your Aunt Tacey, was having these lucid dreams where someone, when she was working out of town where someone was laying on top of her. I think she just forgot to kick her boyfriend out of the room. But anyway, I told her that if she wanted to control it, all she had to do was in her dream is imagine her hand and see her hand.

She had to lift her hand up and regard it and look at it. If she was able to do that, then she could take control of the dream. Why is that? How is that? Why is the hand the factor not like a leg or something? It could be anything. It could be a leg. But it's just easier to imagine.

It's harder to imagine you're looking at your leg when you're laying down, but it's easy to lift up your hand. But you're doing it in your sleep. So it's got to be something that your brain can process during a dream. But if you do that, then all that sleep paralysis bullshit will go away. You'll just wake up all of a sudden, you'll go, oh, I know what's going on. Or you can take control of the dream, and you can go run around doing what Anthony does. So nobody if understands this, we just don't understand how the brain works. And we don't know why we sleep.

It seems like everything, most everything's, you know, higher organisms sleep, fish sleep. You know, cats, dogs, rats, you know, squirrels, they all sleep. It's something that it goes way back in our evolutionary history. And it probably has something to do with the brain being so complex and so much processing going on that it just needs that time to just kind of file things away. There's a subroutine in there that files everything away and sets everything and gets it ready for the next day. Because if you don't sleep, you go nuts. Right. Anyway, it's fascinating, though.

But that's all I know about it. You know anything about it? Nope. No. Not about what you were saying. Anybody out there has lucid dreams, reach out to me. We'll put you on me. I'm going to hear stories about it.

All right. You want to go for the other, the fluid family, and then we'll get out of here. Yeah, we can wrap it up. Yep, wrap, wrap. We're going to play some music, too. Yeah, we've got a birthday song to play real quick. Okay. Yeah, we guess we have a couple little short ones.

Okay. Yeah. Let's see here. Abbott was asking, has not grown any hair on legs under the arms, eyebrows for over 10 years? Any thoughts? I'll say that again? No growth of hair on legs under the Xilas or eyebrows in over 10 years. All of those places.

Just on the legs, that can be circulation, it could be too tight, you know, compression socks, stuff like that. Diabetes, anything, yeah. But if it's everywhere, then it's alopecia. And there was a woman on the Great British Making Show that had Elopecia Universalis, and she was just completely, had no hair on her body anywhere. In Elopecia, the greatest guitar picker in a world right now, female guitar picker, is Molly Tuttle. Molly Tuttle's got Elopecia. She does?

She sure does. She wears wigs, and sometimes she doesn't. She just goes slick. Yeah, just go without that. I mean, she's a beautiful lady, and God, she can burn up a guitar. That's what matters. Holy male. Yeah.

Yeah, so see a dermatologist about that. Yeah, see a dermatologist, usually on an autoimmune disorder. I mean, sometimes stress induced. Your body is attacking the hair follicles. Yeah, and there's some, again, we talked about the breathing techniques a couple of times. Again, something maybe to consider if it is autoimmune, if it is stress induced, you know, go back before you start taking a whole bunch of bills, maybe look into the stress mitigating things. Alopecia Ariata is where you have patchy sort of coin. like loss of hair in the scalp,

and we'll treat those with intradermal steroid injections, and the hair will grow back. You just can't do that all over your whole body. That's the problem. Real quick, we got Kentucky Amy, who we're going to sing birthday, too. She says her husband has an internal defibrillator can no longer use chainsaws or anything.

Whose birthday is that, Amy? Amy, Kentucky, Amy, yep, Hiki. It's going to be anything of the high literature. electrical current. She said he's not happy, but he is alive. Well, they make gas chainsaws, for God's sake. Exactly. Yes. Hey. Here, honey. Here's an electric chainsaw for you. And they also make the little ones. You can put on the end of a pole and stick it up in the tree. Well, that is true, too. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. How about, um, oh, here we go go ahead. Go ahead. Crystal Williams, 1331. Is that the one you're going to do? Okay, go ahead and

ask it. Real quick, visual hands on, do any advice we have for a visual hands on, um, do any advice we have for a visual on learner and nursing school who isn't getting much clinical experience and is struggling with theory. Yeah. You know what? AI. Take your lessons.

Try this. Go to Google.combookL.m. Take your lessons if they're in electronic form or convert them to PDF, upload them, and say, make me a visual presentation on this and it will make you a PowerPoint presentation.

That's crazy. And then you can also get it to illustrate things. I think Google Gemini is awesome. Gemini Pro is worth it. It's like, I don't know, $19 a month, something like that. And you can use it for all kinds of

things. But one of the things that you can use it for is to say, create an image from this so that I can understand what the hell this is talking about. But there are people with learning, you know, I don't want to say disability. It's not really a disability, but we all learn differently. Some of us are

very visual learners, and you can use AI to help with that. And tactile learners, I would even say reach out to some friends that have clinics that you can actually go in and follow. That's what I would say. To me, that would be better for someone like me who's really hands-on, really tactile. You know, ask around. Because there are people who let you kind of, you know, follow them and learn how to do things. Yeah.

And Crystal, you can email us any time if there's something you don't understand. All right. That it? Let's do it. Okay. It's hotter than 14 shits in here. Oh, yeah, I know. But, you see, Lexi doesn't notice it because she's used to 400-degree.

Exactly. Somebody was asking about NAC supplements, and I'll just answer that real quick. Yeah, sure. It was Chris Mack and a couple other people. Crystal Williams, I think, was asking about. They asked about NAC supplements. That's Nacetal cystine. We will use that in the hospital for people that have a lot of mucus in their lungs.

And it's a mucalytic. and we also use it for Tylenol overdose. Right. Okay? So you give it orally or intravenously, and it prevents kidney or liver damage from the acetaminesin. But some people are taking it because it regulates a neurotransmitter called glutamate, and it may boost these things called glutathione levels,

and it may help manage symptoms of Alzheimer's and or Parkinson's. The data is still out on that, but they're working. There are studies that suggest that nacetyl cysteine may help alleviate symptoms of depression. That's a good anti-inflammatory, possibly. It may improve fertility with people with oxidative stress. Exactly. And, yeah, so the daily accepted daily supplement is around 600 to 1,800 milligrams, divided into two or three doses, but I'm not recommending it. Talk to your prescriber before you just go taking things.

Before you do it, yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And let me see here.

What? No, no, one thing. Go ahead. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. What were you going to say? I've got a second song for us. We'll do the birthday song for Kentucky Amy. Okay.

Well, we'll do that after. We weren't going to do it. Did you want to do it during the show? Oh, no, afterwards. Okay, okay, okay. I apologize. No, no, no. Don't apologize.

God, you've been doing this long enough. You don't have to apologize. By the way, an acetylcysteine can slow blood clotting. So if you're planning on driving a NASCAR around and you might hit a wall, then that might not be the best supplement for you. And absolutely don't take it. I'm just trying to include you. No, Lexia. No, you're good.

Don't take it before surgery. You've got to stop it two weeks before surgery, which is. why you have to tell your surgeons and other health care providers that what supplements you're taking over the counter because I take a shitload of supplements because I'm old and I'm trying to stay relatively young despite all the crap that's going on with my stupid body but I my list you know at my doctor's office has all of my supplements on it because I want them to know what I'm taking. Before we hear a song, can I ask one more question?

Yeah, of course. Final question. You had mentioned overdose and Tylenol. Why I am oblivious to this, and I don't want to offend anybody. But whenever people are choosing what to take for an overdose, why Tylenol rather than DayQuil or NyQuil or Advil or Advil P.M. You mean when they want to kill themselves, you mean? Referring to the overdose earlier.

Just in general. Like, is that the pill that people choose? And if so, why? Does it have more power? It's easy to get, easy to get. Okay. And it's relatively, I mean, I don't want to say painless, but it's easy. And when it, you see, NyQuil doesn't do that.

It would make you sleepy, but it's probably not going to kill you. Yeah. But the Tylenol can destroy your liver. If you don't tell somebody you did it. So that's what does it. It destroys, that's how it is. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Interesting. So, I mean, that's the number one. cause of self-induced death in Europe, I think, is the seed of medicine. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And it's the drug of choice for that, so don't do that.

Don't know. Call, dial 998. Is it 998 or a 988? It's 998? God, why am I having a problem? Remember that all of a sudden. Hang on. Yeah, 988.

Dial 988 if you're feeling like you want to hurt yourself or somebody else. or if you have a substance abuse issue, you can call there too. Yeah. But, yeah. Anyway, all right, we'll see you next week, everybody. Thanks, Lexie. Thank you.

Thanks for ending on a bummer, Lexi. No, it was awesome. I'm just kidding. All right. Take care, everybody. All right. Check your stupid nuts for lumps, too. At Fandual Casino, you get even more ways to play.

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