Well There‘s Your Problem - Episode 127: Rana Plaza Collapse

Episode Date: April 11, 2023

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I have a bottled Starbucks cold-brill vanilla sweet cream premium coffee drink the Nazis over at Starbucks only give you 11 ounces coffee I want to beat them to death and leave their corpse in the town square good it would be a mercy at this point they call it a coffee drink is that like you know how you can't call certain kinds of cheese a cheese you have to call it a cheese product well it doesn't just have coffee in it has coffee cold-brilled Starbucks coffee water coffee skim milk sugar cream and natural flavors whatever the goddamn fuck that is everything you can buy at Starbucks is legally a milkshake I that sounds about

right I had a frappuccino for the first time in a couple years a few weeks ago and it hurt my tummy so goddamn bad oh yeah yeah don't do that the fanciest coffee drink I can do is like a mocha you love a mocha though I do like I do like the mochas yeah I am a fan of cold brew as I've gotten older but I still do like a like a like a pour over you know at a nice shop like a elixir and filly or a reanimator that we have I live near La Colombe I will say their nitro draft latte it's is very yummy not only a coffee person and like you like tea right because you're yeah yeah for sure but like if I drink tea I you

know drink way too much of it and get like way too caffeinated so like it's like caffeinated very weirdly they're caffeinated yeah caffeinated sort of smooth but Andrew Tate caffeinated yeah so like I don't drink too often and instead if I want my drink off him out of sparkling water water no if I want like a hot brown drink I think that guy is secretly from Delco yeah I learned the other day that my dad says water water like there's there's a fucking are where there shouldn't be not at the end it's water and he's like no no I say water like I say it another fucked up way and he he is not from Philadelphia it's from Boston but he

does say what sounds like water although this being my dad ours are where they shouldn't be A's or where they shouldn't be you're adding and dropping A's just at random shit's very confusing the Irish Riviera accent if you will worda worder worda worda worda park Dakar and oh god I don't know I wouldn't have soda there park Dakar in the higher regard hello and welcome to well there's your problem it's a podcast about regional accents and engineering disasters yeah with slides I'm Justin Rosniak I'm the person who's talking right now my pronouns are he and him okay go I'm Alice go to Kelly I'm the person who's

talking now my pronouns are she and her yeah Liam hi I'm Justin Rosniak I'm the person talking right now my pronouns are he and him okay go hi we're stuck in a loop we're stuck in a loop yeah Liam yeah hi I'm Liam Anderson my pronouns are he and him we don't have a guest fuck off yeah we're recording this in the in the twilight hours of Ross's 20s I'm not gonna say the exact date but tomorrow is Ross's birthday happy birthday you poor dumb son of a bitch yes all down with you I got four hours and nine minutes left in my 20s well 20s because I've been in my 30s for coming up on two years now and feels the same so maybe

the other years until the injury oh boy a nasty oh my neck oh dude I will get up and agonizing back pain the last two days we're all getting old anyway yeah what do you see on the screen in front of you is a building but a lot of it has fallen down glasius yes that's supposed to be like that glasius with his ignorance of the Israel Palestine situation I saw this building and thought no that's all right then I will say Madaglasius has a whole slide dedicated to him in this he should he can eat the shit out of my butthole mm-hmm all right today we're gonna talk about the 2013 Rana plaza building

collapse in Dhaka blank Bangladesh but first we have to do the goddamn news what the fuck is this that's wrong this is this is a cheese cake the cheese steaks and far away places post yes this is this is the city of Philadelphia on national cheese steak day posted a picture of probably the worst cheese steak I have seen in my life Liam you got a lot of breathing on your mind a lot of breathing oh sorry sorry here let me move away from my mic a little bit yeah sorry about that yeah that thing is a goddamn abomination God saw this and sent a second deluge the arc should be ready in about 20 minutes so good luck

everybody explain to me as an outsider I don't know what's going on here I see the ketchup and the peppers I'm looking at so there's I've never seen a cheese steak that looks like this anywhere within city limits have you sick yes so sort of what's going on for those of you who are not in the know or who are not looking at the visuals here is my mic better now by the way yes fine 130 episodes in baby so the ordinarily you get a cheese steak you've got the chopped up you know prime rib you got onions you got some form of cheese that's it sometimes you get something what called a cheese steak hokey which is the same

but with tomatoes and lettuce what we're sort of looking at here is a cheese steak hokey taken to the extreme where there are additionally hot peppers banana peppers and pickles with ketchup on top and what you're sort of looking at here is something that I just don't know what it is I don't know what to classify this as I don't know how you eat it but also has a generous lettering once as a generous slathering of mayo on the bread does God it does yeah so that this is this this is you know I'm looking at it and it just looks inedible right you know I'm confused I don't understand why they look like yeah I don't get that

either generated a cheese steak right I'm having real trouble figuring out how one would eat this and right I don't I want to know like where this place like Jim Kenny is from Philadelphia dude yes well they also mentioned that Jim Kenny has a much more conventional cheese steak order which is American cheese no it American cheese onions and ketchup that's right order this was by the social we didn't talk about our word or did we in the slides maybe maybe it's the water situation that turned out to be not real nothing burger that's what I've been saying the entire time and nobody listen to me because they hate me but

it's another entry in my American politicians drinking glasses of water performatively folder yeah yeah Kenny's Kenny took the devil's milkshake yeah I fucking hate the guy just fucking resign like please please just fucking resign I'm begging you let us do it a couple of our council members also took a devil's milkshake I was a little bit earlier though just texted me would or gate and then texted me I'm feeding you jokes sweetie I had already made the joke well apparently I said water I bet sorry we also gonna get you a non mechanical keyboard sorry yeah I got I'm putting it down I'm putting it down

I'm moving away I'm moving it very slowly but yeah I I need to know where in the city this thing is from because I have heard of a cheese I have never ordered have you ever ordered a cheese steak Hogi rods no because I think the other concept is disgusting no same I I've had have you read a pizza cheese steak is all right I've had a pizza steak yeah pizza steak is fine have you ever ordered a cheese steak Hogi she doesn't like him yeah this sandwich chat yeah these people should be forced to move to Delaware if the state the country I said unfortunately you know what you got a technology to make this

rotate no we're gonna give this to Lauren but yeah you got to marry you got to marry someone with like better judgment than you and yeah I you know great job doing that I will say that yeah Corinne has terrific judgment and my judgment is questionable too bad hmm I mean I will eat at a disgusting thing placed in front of me which is you know how I got this body but even so this thing this thing is like thing it's it's nasty no no for my cheese steak order by my by my fiance that's awesome no no scran this looks like it's good my way of describing this like is slop it appears like yeah like an open-faced sandwich

almost it's like crushing the the like bread outwards yeah everything about this is wrong it's very man versus food in a way I find aesthetically disturbing I I think it's I think it's the I think it's the city just you know throwing up its hands basically I don't know where they're fishing for clicks or do they have that amount of self-hatred I don't know I probably both yeah I do I I will say Philly as a city is great because we hate everyone we hate each other but we hate all of you more yeah yeah yeah I uh you want to keep going with sandwich chat because I just had a delicious sandwich today actually from my liberty

kitchen but mm-hmm I just think the city should have more self-respect and post a good cheese steak on national cheese steak day yeah I mean there are also plenty of opportunities to talk about like hats and geno's which are fine I will say I actually have a mini-rand about this hats and geno's are fucking fine okay like in the same way that like you go to the M&M store in Times Square like yeah okay so do the authentic experience they're fine I like the authentic M&M experience it's like Times Square you go into a sex dungeon right you go into a sex dungeon like old Times Square and there is the green M&M with the strap

you have a collar made of twizzlers placed around your neck and then you how you do it house fucking Rudy Giuliani like deputize the NYPD to go into the theaters and like crack all the M&M's open with like truncheons it's fucked you know it's not the same sissy anymore justice for Steve's Prince of Stakes all of the live commentary of my own podcast I want to talk about a high speed real coming to California yes that's our next news item I'm speaking of Trains happy birthday to our congratulations on reaching us all hugged and disregarded it's like you know played over by the drop whatever my job Union

Pacific has brought high-speed rail to California fuck there was this arguing with a guy on Twitter about it and has been for a day yes well that guy was wrong anyway what happened here as far as we can tell because a lot of this is still rumors in hearsay is there was 180 something car train of iron ore it's split in half on the top of the SEMA grade which is in California it goes downhill towards Los Angeles and when the crew was going to replace the coupler where the train broke in half the front half of the train got away from them somehow oh buddy and so it rolled down this very long 2.3 percent grade we

have this picture from a positive train control readout showing here it was going 118 miles per hour that's good right now as I understand it Union Pacific's positive train control cannot read anything higher than 118 miles an hour off-scale high fuck yes yes so I want to say there are some people who unofficially clocked this train at anywhere between 130 and 150 miles an hour Mallards alleged record 128 oh congratulations you did it I believe the fastest diesel electric locomotive was the HST 125 which in 143 so Union Pacific may have broken several there possibly the fastest

freight train in history and you can see here it came off the tracks on this corner and contained in here are two locomotives and 55 coal cars how do you get to a speed that high gravity gravity I figured that's what it was I didn't know if there was anything else that would affect it it's a really heavy train there's a lot yes right we're not quite certain exactly how the train got away from them we do know they bailed after it hit 15 miles an hour and it was not stopping because you know if you're the engineer and you have full brakes you have full independent brakes you have full dynamic brakes and the thing is

still accelerating your work is done get off that train yeah so so we don't know what happened what you can really survive I haven't seen much about this other than you again arguing with that guy on Twitter they they they survive no injuries they bailed it like 15 miles an hour to the best of my knowledge so that that is something where you know you're gonna sprain an ankle at the worst you know you can sort of see you can do a lot more damage jumping out of a locomotive at 15 miles an hour than a sprained ankle but I think it was a parachute fall skilish you you know yeah braz what was the last time you jumped off of anything

like a you can sort of see how all these train cars can really shredded themselves into being completely unrecognizable really going 55 miles an hour yeah okay that guy again that guy was wrong you know the interesting thing here is of course I I do not believe NTSB has chosen to look into this because there was no loss of life and there was only damage to property iron ore is basically inert so there's not really environment so NTSB said property crimes aren't crimes got it yeah yep yeah yeah whatever we think this one was cool actually yeah it's pretty cool I mean that that's a pretty fast

derailment so we don't know exactly what caused this we might not ever know 3D friendship deraila yeah yeah sure like a whole line of them though yeah I could say is this is it's like when you don't complete your your roller coaster and roller coaster tycoon and you just send all your passengers to the death I was like doing that this is sort of I don't know this is the craziest derailment I've seen this year you know and that's saying something considering East Palestine happened this this is by far the craziest thing I've seen in years and we're just probably not gonna learn anything from it you know I just

straight up forgot to put the brakes on you know well possibly what happened was they were this is sort of the rumor at the moment is that well after they had replaced the knuckle or while the conductor was going back to place the knuckle the engineer knower trying to recharge the brake system so they could move the train back and put the train back together and they wound up in the sort of limbo state where there was enough pressure in the brake pipe that the brakes were releasing but not enough pressure in the brake pipe that they could put the brakes back on hmm so weird this is sort of yeah this is sort of

there's a lot of stuff there that doesn't quite add up either you know because theoretically you'd be able to put it back into emergency there's a whole lot of stuff here that does not make a lot of sense and again I don't know if NTSB isn't looking into it I don't know that we're going to find out what happened mystery train ghost train I just hope somewhere there's like surveillance footage if it going by at 130 miles an hour I would like to see that so yeah well no injuries no environmental damage I guess we should never think about it or learn anything from it yeah in other news if this had

only leaked a few hours later you would have gotten the Ross Joker laugh mark to I I don't know and I would just start screaming Trump Tramp Trumbo Trump Trump America's America's a wettest president once again in a pickle in a commotion he's being arrested for paying off stormy Daniels yeah is it a crime to pay off a porn star yes because it's campaign finance the thing we as Americans obviously give a shit about yes like tax evasion to like like an accounting sort of misdemeanor to right I I do like obviously the shit doesn't matter because the rich are just gonna do whatever they want and nobody gives a

shit about this stuff anyway it is fucking hilarious that he's going to be arrested like they that's very funny I I do think and I've never said this before I was not someone who really thought he was especially funny I thought he could be funny in sort of a mean way I think we give him Twitter back for as long as he's being like arrested that's I need to see those tweets I mean he does have truth social now I believe that you learn so he's a isn't he unbanned it just won't use yes and a fit of peak what he said on truth social was these thugs and radical left monsters have just indicated the 45th president of the

United States of America and the leading Republican candidate by far for the 24-24 nomination for president this is an attack on our country the likes of which has never been seen before I don't know Fort Sumter was pretty high up there it is likewise a continuing attack on our once free and fair elections the USA is now a third world nation a nation in serious decline so sad so a lot of words man that's too many words yeah he's lost he's kind of lost it here although I do appreciate indicated yes he's he's he's nervous he's panicked and this is like one of three indictments that are coming down actually much more

serious because he's I don't know if you know this but you're not supposed to use your lawyers as tools to do crimes I hear that your lawyers aren't these supposed to be committing crimes themselves and believe a federal judge ruled that attorney client privilege no longer applies certain stuff for him he's got like mm-hmm you know how bad you have to fuck up as a lawyer to get that shit taken away from you oh yeah he's got the classified documents thing he's got like potentially a couple of other Fed things he's got like election tampering in Georgia where like the Atlanta State's attorney once and bad

for that and then he's got this one thing in New York so you know he's just gonna be bouncing around getting arrested which is hysterical to me it's like the Trump the Trump for life for life from San Quentin it's Donald Trump as as you put in here Justin there is plenty of precedent for running for president while in prison yes he will be in the next Eugene Debs I want to point out something interesting that the AI has done generating this image look at this man here right yeah and we see going down going down his arm police uniform police uniform police uniform I kind of I genuinely have a

little bit of affection for AI ask at times like this because like it all of the like from getting arrested AI up was very funny because it was the kind of dumb bullshit that was too dumb to ask a human to do but also the ways in which it fucked up we're almost charming like the sport coat thing or the patches or like any number of these things I really like getting arrested with this dissuit cop the suit cop it's like men's wear guy but like he's been sworn in and he's just like Sona cop but they're warehousing humans one of the other funny things that happened is that and I think the context of fucking over Ron DeSantis Disney working out

that they could like simply fuck over Florida forever I and do it sort of in the dark is extremely funny to me this election's gonna further destroy the Republic but it is funny to watch yeah it's only we don't deserve it we've had enough tremendous content from prison I think you could definitely win from prison I think it'd be extremely funny I I do like the idea of of Trump like going into whatever low low security federal prison in Connecticut or whatever the fucking the mark the store was said yeah the one that marked the store was in right well like becoming a total jailbird going full to cash he's six

nine on drug dealers like you know having like coming out like stabs or a porter with a shiv and says take me back you get when it's like all upper body strength no cardio right I yeah I think I think the other weird fantasy art his son posted of him like as a mix of Trump and Stone Cold God Jesus Christ and the other thing is like if he wins he could pardon himself but would be hilarious about I think it would be funnier if he just like refused to out of like spite and we just decided yeah so like you govern from prison as well they have to like a build an oval off it's in the prison down Donnie the governing

coalition of the Republicans and the Aryan nation we all went for that one at the same time yeah well we've done 26 minutes of news what else we got well we have an actual episode never mind let's keep talking about fucking shit that won't happen yeah so yeah I don't wait I just this episode is gonna be me trying to put Matt a glacis into a blender all right we got to start by asking what is DACA I don't know what is this bill what is this interior on the top right this is magnificent oh this is it's a mosque it's the star mosque in DACA this is fantastic oh yeah there is shit the DACA is it's the capital of

Bangladesh as a population of 10.2 million people fuck which Jesus which is bigger than Michigan it's like an insanely like densely populated Sissy right and it's also very very low-lying and very susceptible to like my god it is bigger than Michigan so like the the climate of hotter New Orleans with the density of Hong Kong yeah regular New Orleans is I'm going there yeah the there have been urban settlements in the Saria since like the first millennium AD but the DACA proper isn't founded until the 1600s under the Mughals right one of the most vulnerable cities in the world to

climate change yeah a couple you know I put us put some buildings up here this the National Assembly building this was designed by our very own Lou Khan of Philadelphia it's a little bit like that's right the square hole the square hole yes square hole you know here's their national not the butthole or the mouth but a secret third hole yeah that's right they got their national football stadium they also have they play a lot of cricket there as well it's a sister city of Bucharest and also New York City right on a Ganges Delta right am I correct in saying that no no it's it's more inland than that I thought it

was right on the Delta my bed no it's it's not the Ganges in it is in India oh this is weird so I've got the wiki up lying on the Ganges Delta that's funny how that works this post has been fact-checked by real Bangladeshi patriots yeah yeah well you call it East Pakistan suck my fucking dick okay that's right you know what lots of people live here like it's a real city it's not like you know I feel like when you hear about these huge disasters in like foreign countries you're like well you know that's what happens in some one of these foreign shitholes it's like now there's like a bunch of people who

live there you know we said the same thing about right we said the same thing about my poems the city the size of Philadelphia that the west especially Union Carbide treated like a garbage dump and this is like 10 fucking million people like people have to live somewhere that's the thing that pisses me off right it's like these and like we're gonna get there with Madaglaces who as the villain of this episode should be shot to the fucking son but you know we talk about like I think there's a lot of like oh it's just body count porn basically if that makes sense yeah yeah yeah I don't love that phrase obviously

but like oh like you know those stupid they're all on top of each other like people have to fucking live someplace man and we talked about these death counts like they're fucking nothing yeah and then it's like oh my god look at how these people live and have a nice place to live yeah it's like nicer than what you can get in New York City or London much bigger to air conditioning probably not so reliable though yeah but this is not like you know I this is not like some kind of like disaster show hellhole city it's it's a real place where people live you know it's it's it's not like I don't know I wouldn't

matter even a disaster place hellhole city because yeah people are worthy of dignity and respect and help yeah not to be treated like hogs in a machine by again Matt Iglesias who what should you know what no I'm just gonna say it have some sort of get the bleep ready some sort of like chainsaw like a Jackson Pollock painting is what I'm saying sorry yeah I guess I guess the main thing to say is that like that kind of isn't a place that is solely like disaster city that like everywhere is like a full place and this is like a full place and it's like their full lives here people are born here live here die here worship

here have fun here have terrible things happen them here like that doesn't make it any less worthy and I know that sort of the comms is gonna be like why are you being so sanctimonious and it's just like we're not it's just that people love this body count porn shit with these countries yeah yeah well one of the major industries in Bangladesh and Dhaka proper is the textile industry yeah I've put in a lot for this and in fact I can say it's not just one of the major industries it is the major industry right Bangladesh has a 35 billion dollar garment industry it's the largest after China depending whether Vietnam does

that year it's like 85 percent of the exports of Bangladesh are ready-made garments of which like a fifth of t-shirts alone and the reason why it is that way is because after Bangladesh got independence from Pakistan garment export was like a quick way for the government to make money and garment export used to be very like deeply regulated by something called the 1974 multi-fiber agreement which imposed quotas on developing nations as to how much clothing you could export so as to not like destroy the manufacturing economy of the developed world this happened anyway because it had certain

loopholes including Bangladesh because when they were drafting it they're like fuck it no one's gonna make t-shirts in Bangladesh they're gonna make them in like South Korea and we want us to stop South Korea from making t-shirts so if you're a South Korean executive what you do is you open a factory in Bangladesh and that's what most knows not fuck me and that's what most notably day you did the same people do the cars giant tribal corporation like open factories in Bangladesh got around their export quota and then you know this sort of like set off this huge thing also garment manufacturing in Bangladesh was

nationalized up until saying with me privatized in the 80s and also deregulated in the 80s all of which is like deeply tied in with the sort of like the one governing party since the military dictatorship ended the Awami League which is about as corrupt as you can imagine there are like two dozen factory owners who are also MPs in Bangladesh labor organizers have this way of like going missing and Bangladesh labor remains some of the cheapest in the world if not the cheapest yeah and and and textile manufacturing is one of those things which is very much resisted mechanization in a way that a lot of

other sectors haven't you know it still is very very labor-intensive yeah need to shoot an episode for shoot a promo for our own podcast here we are going to be doing a deeper exploration of this very thing of fast fashion especially on April's whenever you hear this bonus episode in case you're interested in that as well but yeah I can you talk more about the lack of mechanization and why is it just like it's just cheaper to do it with humans or do we have a reason I have no idea to be honest it's sort of both yeah I mean it's it's cheaper but also there's a lot of like finicky work and what you want to do is

like separate out the kind of like more intricate operations with the like more sort of like scalable ones and so you know Bangladesh is a good place to do both to be honest but you'd like especially for like luxury brands one thing you can do is you do the like more easily like scalable stuff offshore and then you have like you've got like one or two stitches in it in Italy and then you slap and made an Italy logo on it or whatever and like evil oh it is it absolutely is and the biggest culprit here is the fast fashion industry which is something that was born out of actually along with

the multi-fiber agreement this was another attempt to protect Western manufacturing this was this idea of quick response manufacturing the idea that you have like very like short lead times you have to like scale things up and down quickly instead of protecting Western manufacturing this got offshore also and so you end up with this business model where you're able to like like shine or like Zara does where you make thousands of different products and like small batches they sell out quickly so they seem exclusive when one sells you scale up the production you sell like thousands of them flood the market

and then you just rinse and repeat yeah this work is all by and large it's you know it's done by women they're very very low paid even considering you know the low wage scale in Bangladesh right and you have lots and lots of these very small manufacturers they're sub contractors of subcontractors of subcontractors rights the actual supply chain is very hard to scrutinize you know just at some point the stuff shows up on the shelves and don't think about it right especially if you're like if you don't want to scrutinize it which is you know a lot of a lot of like buyers

certainly don't if you're wondering about child labor by the way certainly used to be a thing to Bangladesh to an extent I understand still is like one of those things that has been clamped down on to the extent that it is like getting better but who's to say and then and then also all the stuff is made out of cheap and nasty materials right oh yeah 100% because that's that's like also an imperative of fast fashion that's why I like it it's chassis to work around a chassis to live around the manufacturing of leather is the worst like synthetic leather even real leather tanning is like nasty yeah and you

will get cancer don't you worry yeah bank that doesn't get something you don't get something worse first right yeah now we have to talk about this picture here is supposed to be an example of one of the cleaner and healthier Bangladesh textile mills this is good practice you know yes got lights get space between the people yet sawing machines and stuff you know shit man is going to make a raxa yeah well wow it's not even locked they got a fan damn window they should be grateful why aren't they grateful now we got to talk about buildings we're gonna talk about the live load and the dead load right so when you're engineering a

building these are the two big loads you got to think about in terms of the actual structure right you have the dead load and the dead load is the building itself right it's any permanent part of the building the floor is the world use these loads no it's all no loads refused no loads can be refused yeah otherwise we're just talking about your towers yeah so the floors the walls the roof structural members anything that's a permanent part of the building is the dead load then you have the live load right which is everything else which is largely supported by that people such as these Amish guys putting up this

building that's a live load obese man writing a heavy bicycle top right you put him together that's a frame oh yeah there is yeah he's yelling to buy a fucking car but you can't hear it yeah so you know your live load is everything else this is stuff that's supported by the floor so it's the people it's the furniture it's the animal bookcases it's machinery it's whatever well it's build a crap it's in a building you know filing cabinets a lot of people yeah in buildings you know so live load ratings are different depending on the type of structure so like in the United States generally is specified in

pounds per square foot which is a measurement that I'm sure will infuriate your opinions but you're hitting me man residential buildings for example need to be able to handle about 40 pounds per square foot international building code has lots of specifications for this like a garage is 40 PSF a library stack is like 150 heavy manufacturing is 250 classrooms are 40 in armory is 150 so you know that you can like easily repurpose a library as an armory and vice versa yeah yeah talk to the Pennsylvania railroad about that you know and this is especially important where you're dealing with things that are

heavy like machinery heavy furniture people especially Americans are very heavy oh no I gotta say it like that yeah you have to stop riding the catastrophically heavy bicycle yes you can get this thing when you get a tube frame made of a fucking osmium you know I brought it from home and machinery poses its own problems right because it introduces cyclic loading right these machines they start up they shut down they're moving parts these introduced forces and vibrations into the structure that accelerates material fatigue right this is a particularly their problem in buildings where you know your

heavy stuff moves around you know like like a parking garage for example but that's a different episode parking garages are so ugly that's why well that's why all parking garages are falling apart yeah yeah so buildings are built sort of as heavily or as lightly needed for their purpose that's why a lot of times you will see a factory or warehouse repurposed into lofts or offices but very rarely do you see an officer an apartment building repurposed into a factory well I don't like that and then also in the United States you know manufacturing has been decentralized to the point where multi-story

factories are uneconomical but that's that's another episode so with that in mind let's look at the Rana Plaza oh she's beautiful isn't she what a gorgeous building oh she's a looker what the hell is going on bottom left here am I missing something there's there's like a sort of like a glass of it you can see it like another angle of it in the next slide I think man would be sick as a call of duty map I will say that yes so the reason the reason why you think of Call of Juicy is like this particular structure of like concrete frame like terracotta sides because that's in every video game set in the developing

world because that's where all the fucking buildings look like like yes you can use the same set for South Africa South America like whatever the fuck because everywhere he uses it I may not shock the listeners to realize that I'm very stupid yeah you have this sort of Rana Plaza here that's the building we're looking at is it does have this sort of developing world style of construction which is your reinforced concrete frame with terracotta block in this case I think they just went for a straight reinforced concrete for the whole thing which is another option but you see this sort of building you know again

everywhere in the developing world right you'll see this in India you'll see it in Peru in Uganda in Greece you know which recently became developing world you can see in like more deprived bits of Southern Italy too I mean yeah we don't have a heavily associated with like illegal construction which is fun yes it's cheap and fast it's very cheap it's very fast it's reasonably durable as well installation is not good a lot of aspects of it that are not good the architecture is also frequently not good but you know box we don't have this in the United States mine mainly because we came up with the idea of light timber

frame multi-story buildings and our day of reckoning for that has not come oh but it will it will would poke on this yes one day one day one of these brand new five over one districts is just gonna burn down all at once and everyone's gonna be like how did we allow this to happen so you know here here in Bangladesh of course it rains a bunch which means these buildings start to look pretty ugly pretty quickly but that's not like indicative of a structural problem right I don't think it was ever intended to look pretty either I don't think well you know he did some they put some they put some glass on the front and they got

this embellishment on the front here that says rana plaza and these big letters up in the front and then like well we'll get into the the four floors on top later great so this guy Mohammed Soho Rana right he's a sort of gangster thug guy with a lot of political connections right he he he rides around on a motorcycle with his motorcycle gang and he has this sort of dubious claim to a piece of land on the outskirts of Dhaka in a place called savor and he wants to put a building on there right we have sort of these again you're developing world problems people just put up buildings there's not a lot of oversight

into titles your deeds or anything some ownership of land is kind of informal but also Soho Rana is just a big bully right and he gets adjacent landowners to cede their property to him just because well the police don't want to mess with them no one has any recourse okay put up the building right it's like helpful if you're in with the authorities that like do permits and zoning and stuff too right yes he was he was absolutely so this plot of land is kind of swampy kind of miserable has a big pond in the middle of it right but it's on a major road close to the center of town and he's got some big plans here

right he's gonna build this building it's gonna be a shopping center it's gonna have apartments it's gonna have offices all in this neat and tidy four-story concrete building right sure and love mixed use zoning right yes we love mixed use mixed use zoning is always good this man is a true urbanist this kind of smart walkable mixed use etc totally illegal in the United States yeah yeah don't worry though we're our day of Kindle reckoning is coming we have so the wind and we shall reap the whirlwind by which I mean a bunch of our houses burning down especially mine my house is gonna eat shit so this

building was finished in 2006 right sure but Rana he's a wily fellow though he's a wily fellow and he feels the tides of the economy changing and he contacts his political buddies to get the permits changed the Rana Plaza shopping center would now include factories that's exactly what you want to hear like above you when you're when you're shopping is like yeah you can go to the shopping mall to buy the clothes that were made upstairs no they're like farm to tape oh farm table for cruelty now just hearing like a bunch of lathe's and shit immediately above you and you're like trying to buy like shoes or whatever

but mostly sewing machines thousands of sewing machines what is a sewing machine but a lathe's of ladies for stitches yeah rosin no that's not how a lathe works lathe removes material sewing machines at it so they'd be five factories all making clothing for big western brands right so in 2011 construction been begins on the upper four floors and the final configuration of the building is five floors of textile mill on top of the shopping center and the apartments the ninth floor was never completed presumably because of taxes it seems like there's there's this real trend in Bangladesh I just just going

through Google Maps honestly of you know you leave the building unfinished which I know it's like some places don't charge you fully on property taxes until you you completely finish the building so that's that's a strategy there but this is this is a problem right because Rana has done exactly what we mentioned before is not common or acceptable or easy which is converting a residential or commercial building to industrial use right that's the kind of ingenuity and like know how an entrepreneurship that makes these countries the workshops of the world this is true this is the kind of this is the kind of can do attitude

that we just don't have anymore in our society it's see if we luckily the the vanguard of America down there in Arkansas is gonna let those 12-year-olds die for country and for the ingenuity of working at the Tyson plant so we're gonna work we'll have the finest mechanically separated chicken you ever did see and and with that we will rebuild America and make us a great power once again and so on and so forth and then Donald Trump that'd be cool sorry like yeah no if he'd be like Bud Dwyer's himself on National TV right he pulls out a grenade and just like shucks it at Ron

DeSantis I think I think if he gets like indicted and he like goes for a cop service weapon I think that's probably pretty funny yeah well then John Hinckley's himself that would be all right all right back on back on the topic sorry now textile mills don't have especially heavy equipment right it's mostly sewing machines and tables well they do have as a lot of people right so once this addition was completed somewhere between 3,000 and 5,000 people worked in this building in the one building in a one building that's so many fucking people Jesus Christ now I see why the

like a slide you showed us is like the best practice one you've got like more than like a foot in between each table yes for comparison each individual twin tower you know the 9 11 twin towers had about 7,000 people clocking in each work day I don't even want to think about what this density looks like yeah wanna throw up a lot of people work in this one building all right well we killed Liam reasonable I mean I'm not feeling so good either to be honest this is it's it's pretty grim I don't imagine there's a lot of light in this building either no this is very much this is very much just a cube you can

also see on this photograph here you can see the rebar sticking at the top where they were is that what that is that's that's like not antenna okay it's not antennas no that's rebar sticking out you can see the adjacent building to they got the rebar sticking out of these columns because again they're like I the building's not finished on taxes the other the other thing is based on the sort of like density and everything else the thing I would worry about first of all and this is this happened contemporaneously a couple of like really bad examples of this in Bangladesh and go in factories is a fire because this

looks like an absolute death trap but the death trap I would be like most concerned about with a bunch of fabric lying around next to a bunch of machines that are running all the time is something catching light you know oh yeah we're going full is the door at Duncan and just having a shit strangled out Jesus yeah yeah so anyway I'm pretty sure this is different building yeah this is just I needed something to put in the slides so yeah we can change this in post I hope there's not too many photos of the building when it was standing what's the kind of like unremarkable building is the other

thing about it and that's the sort of like damning thing is yes you know there's there's a ton of these you know and it's not particularly remarkable in that context you know yeah it's a very very boring building so solar on this building operates without incident for a few years you know folks go in they work their miserable jobs for long hours they go home at night right but on April 23rd 2013 workers heard this loud sound it sounded like an explosion right and a bunch of cracks that appeared in support columns everyone was immediately evacuated from the building and sent home for the day wow okay now this was

also while there was this sort of general strike against the government going on which is something I haven't I had a hard time finding details on like I'm pretty sure it was anti-ruling party but because of course our boy Rana is pro-ruling party he everyone had to come in but on this particular day everyone gets sent home now that evening an engineer inspects the building he takes one look at the columns he's like I'm getting the fuck out of here it's not fit for you know it should yeah building is an imminent danger it collapse I see live in a building that was deemed unfit for human habitation Rana is

like unfazed right yeah that motherfucker the press comes around to film the building that night and he shows the journalist the cracks and he's like this is just problems with the plaster this is nothing to do with the building right okay so this is no serious structural problem now it should be noted that if you hear loud sounds and cracks in the plaster appear that is an indication that structural members are moving around right which is generally not something you want in a building you want everything to stay still but even if that were the case Rana was still lying because the whole building was raw

concrete didn't have plaster these are just huge structural cracks right there was another thing I found which is that when workers like asked about this the next day they're like the local authorities I think the mayor or like the local MP like essentially told them yeah it's fine it's safe we looked into it and it's we looked at it yeah I looked at it just like yep that looks like pretty solid building flatly a lie it's made of concrete you know how strong concrete is yeah so all right there's these big problems and the next day known in the shopping center goes to work the shopping centers closed the

apartments are evacuated the offices are evacuated textile mills tell everyone to show up so they do right now docket does not have consistent electricity right there's lots of power outages there's brownouts often dozens in one day so lots of buildings are equipped with these large and heavy diesel generators they can spin up in seconds if there's a power outage so work can continue largely uninterrupted right and this building was equipped with a few of those generators right they put them in the ground floor or basement they put them on a roof well you know they got exhaust somewhere yeah I mean personally

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to fill this big order for some fast fashion bullshit mmm of course so the workers showed up and that morning the power went out and the generators turned on now workers in this building get noticed for a long time that the whole building would shake and shudder when the generators turned on and no one was particularly confident about the structural integrity of the building except for our boy Soho Rana who was at this time in his office in the basement right so the building started as usual to shudder and shake but this time the shaking didn't stop everyone noticed something was up here and the workers

ran for the exits but there was basically no time to escape right a whole thing collapses in like less than two minutes some people jumped out of windows and most of them died most of them got caught up in this tangle of reinforced concrete and God knows what else they got crushed and mangled and maimed and lots of nasty ways right yeah like a diesel generator landing on you or whatever yeah you get impaled on a rebar this this particular photo I don't think really shows the scale of the destruction because what you're looking at here is the back of the building right and then there's a property line

here this is the adjacent building and then the actual footprint of the building you can sort of see goes forward out to here and you can see eight stories as compacted into the space of about three stories you can sort of see the front frame of the building in there the decorative frame so yeah that's that's gone poorly and this is like pretty much purely down to like excessive load right that's not straight up excessive load yeah okay we're not like implicating any other like design or like manufacturing or anything it's just you put too much shit in the building and a fall down well there's definitely a

design issue here is is they added five stories that they weren't supposed to add and it wasn't designed for funny how that was the foundation was not designed for that amount of load the ground was not necessarily capable of holding that load without a better design foundation you know so it's built on top of a pond right yes that's not to say you can't do that but you have to engineer for it which this guy this guy did not do I mean do we know anything about like does he have an architects did do you need an architect was that I mean the same engineer who designed the building and the additions the engineer who designed

the additions was the one who fled the building and say get everyone out I do know that there was also an architect involved on the first four floors but he was not involved on the subsequent four floors terrific yeah because he was implicated in this disaster for a bit and he was like I told him not to do it what can I say like I've seen them building this four times we can do we can just like copy and paste you know right so yeah this this building sort of pancakes into a very small space here we can see several floors which are now less than two feet high yeah don't like when the building is a crumple zone

yeah so you sort of looking at a situation where like you know this this building by way there's probably two-thirds concrete and one-third humanity just just on account of how many people were working in there so this this this building class is very loud lots of people noticed it happened and you know they sort of you know thousands of locals run out to help instantly but it's very very difficult to navigate the wreckage right you can't yeah I mean you don't huge you can't clear out these huge pieces of concrete by hand right you know I used to have folks sort of squeezing into these

narrow passageways in the rubble to help people out some of the rescuers get trapped in the rubble in the process yeah I mean I read about like you know people trying to do what is a complicated like urban search and rescue things like sandals and you're like yeah I'm trying to pull off Superman shit with no tools available yeah for sure yeah the injuries people get are like really heavy like blunt probably trauma stuff yeah it's real nasty shit you know you got the blood in gore and entrails everywhere you got a guy trapped under the wreckage who's still living but like he's got like intestines falling out all

kinds of nasty stuff hmm and it's very very hot in there just because of the amount of body heat you know and then you know friction from the collapse building and just ambient heat because it's Bangladesh right right one of the things they do is they they use sheets of fabric from the buildings like improvised slides to get victims out another thing that guy is wearing washing up gloves yes the other thing they do is there's lots of people trapped under the wreckage but like only a limb is trapped or something so lots and lots of these improvised amputations

without anesthesia to get people out from under the wreckage is real real nasty stuff well I can't wait to hear for I for one can't wait to hear what Madaglases has to say about this yeah I have some improvised amputations in mind myself yeah yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna separate a set for the rest of his body um it's real difficult to under overstate how nasty the situation was right it was kind of you know just just like yeah there's much more gory accounts than anything I can say if you want to go look them up fucking depraved freaks yeah and then there's this sort of low level cover-up by local officials

right there's lots of international assistance offered for the rescue and recovery effort and they're like down we can handle it right and they decline this assistance repeatedly because god forbid anyone find out what's going on inside these textile mills and the national prestige thing to like you want to be able to say like no we've got it we've got like the military and the emergency services on that we're not a basket case you're a basket case you're not suspended you're suspended so these rescuers who are largely ill-equipped a lot of them don't have any kind of PPE or anything they don't have the equipment

they need to do the job they're the ones doing the job and so the rescue effort is slow it's haphazard not especially effective they apparently also try and call it off a bunch of times early the government like gets their hands and goes well nobody's left alive in there so don't worry about it the last living person they pulled out of the wreckage was 17 days after the collapse final toll here 1134 people killed 2,500 injured in those injuries were mostly very bad mostly amputations yeah so like this is a third of a 9-11 yes this is a third of a 9-11 yeah in a small building

sort of one of the things to catch me there is like this is not that big of a building like this is there's like hundreds thousands of these just in like one city mm-hmm I mean I feel very strongly about you know this kind of shit is about to make me a mark like a Maoist Third Worldist right and we've sort of successfully managed to just offshore all of this stuff that used to happen in our countries you know triangle shirt way still the rest of it we'll talk about that at some point I'm sure and just put it like just far enough like out of sight for most people not to worry about it will be

bothered by it and in return we get sort of fashion or whatever leech state theory we get like enough treats to you know keep everybody who's you know gets gets enough treats and yeah this this is sort of like the the sharp end of it right yeah and you know it sort of gets me is like it's not too much more expensive to put up a building that doesn't fall down no right it's more sustainable because you don't have to like shift all of the production it doesn't matter like that's not the imperative the imperative is to like cut costs all the time yes but also like it's not that expensive to put up a

building that doesn't fall down it's it hurts you in the long run if the building falls down yeah but as we know capitalism doesn't do long-term it does short-term and it like you know like in fact it penalizes long-term yes yeah absolutely and so it's just able to keep emissarating and we'll get to sort of like the argument that capitalism makes for itself a couple of slides time that it just it badly depresses me just think of the fact that this is like the way it is for most of the world by population right so we can get more treats and yeah like people who are being splitted here it can get

more treats obviously I think this is it obviously an indictment I'm sorry an indicated of capitalism I am spelling it wrong yeah I mean that's this is the thing right is that we I feel like on this show we try to emphasize the humanity of all people like poor people deserve nice things too but like the exploitation of workers is gruesome it never ends capitalism is not the solution and I hope that these people have a nice time yeah it's like field amputations like it's the goddamn civil war because people are just trying to feed their fucking families is this heinous and grotesque it's this this

wedge that's been sort of like knocked in between sort of like the the working class of developed countries in the working class of developing countries and it's it's brutal and like thinking about the idea that like in aggregate like the average person if you like picked at random this is closer to their idea of work than yours or mine your stupid email job that doesn't matter right yeah for sure this uh do Walt souls all down here yeah I think yeah I think so yeah wow they weren't kidding when I said they were ill-equipped yeah the guy coming towards you if you're like field amputation he's got like a

hub of fright hacks or now you're gonna need me man and then this this for the service of like in fast fashion bullshit that you're gonna throw out that ends up in a land show it looks horrible anyway it looks like shit you're gonna wear it twice and then it's going directly like it's being dumped directly into a Nazca line yes right thanks green never buy clothes again yes oh wait that was a different thing the green piece ruined sorry I sorry my vendetta gets green pieces back mmm the French didn't go too far enough Alice no I want to go full hair shirts on this one you know never never purchase anything never consume

products kill yourself and everyone around you I don't know all right well now that we're thoroughly depressed I assume this guy is no no run so there's this guy ishmael Ferdous he's a he's a photojournalist right and he took some images of the aftermath a lot of it that made it in the press were like images of labels because they were for all these like American brands United Colors of Benetton was the major one I remember yes and then you had like some Walmart brands you had Primark you had Prada Gucci stuff like that right this is the one that sort of stood out to me which is you know they just print on there it's

Union made in New York right and I kind of like well that's fucked probably not it doesn't seem to be the case you know you cannot win with this shit it's all like a decent chance of you trying like buy something manufactured ethically it just isn't and they're lying to you yeah yeah there there's no ethical consumption under capitalism even if you try that's the thing like for the guts of madaglaceous yeah there's no ethical consumption under capitalism often used as a kind of excuse for why you should purchase things seldom understood as a sort of nihilist statement of despair and like the other thing the other thing

about the Nazca line thing and I'll talk about this when we do the fashion episode is that the production of all of these things is completely uncoupled from demand you not buying it doesn't mean they're gonna make it they're gonna do it anyway this is like a it's like a sort of a net being trolled right like making a bunch of sort of like low volume like quick response different products to see which one takes off it doesn't it doesn't matter whether you buy it or not it's just gonna exist in the world and if it doesn't if it doesn't work they'll keep making new things until something you know pops off

and then they'll keep making new things after that what's the logic of dumping in the desert though are they like well maybe we'll come back and use it one day right yeah video different the eti Atari game yeah now landfill was expensive and you know if anyone asks any questions you can do this sort of like disposal sort of like flip side of this coin and be like yeah we we certified the disposal of this I saw this story about how a bunch of sneaker manufacturers had been like housing are we recycle the sneakers like send kids to school or whatever you know we turn this material into like athletic track like young

athletes or whatever and then a great piece of investigative journalism they just put some trackers in the shoes that they sent into this and found all of them being like resold in the Philippines and fuck at least resales better than just dumping them but like it's all like this you know they're right right like I don't mean to sort of like say oh you should never try and like consume sustainably because it's all futile right what I'm saying is that capitalism is a poison and any attempt to do green capitalism sustainable capitalism is always gonna be like it's a lie but not a meaningful one

exactly it needs a routine radical reform oh dancing with Matt Iglesias oh okay you said it all right center both of us they'd have hope you're having fun there I hope I hope for tactical micro bleeps all right so have a limited number of YouTube community strikes we can get we still got three right yeah we haven't gotten we almost got one yeah we got one for some bullshit yeah we got one for for for being anti-vax apparently which we're not all right can we talk about the schmuck and how I hope he has a nice time hopefully at the business end of a 38 well first

we got to talk about a different schmuck or we hope has a nice time oh no I was talking about the guy on the next slide well okay to the other guy at the business end of a 38 okay cool our boy Rana he was in the building when it collapsed he's short as shit dude he crawled out and ran for the border yeah they got him at the like Indian Bangladeshi border and he and like 40 other people got charged with a variety of things including murder yeah I will say I love this arrest photo if for no other reason then the guy in the back wearing sunglasses baffled as to why he's there I think he's I think he's I

think he's mugging for the camera pretty good actually yeah so so how Rana he got like they convicted him of tax evasion on like building the building he got like three years in prison for that the murder trial that only restarted last year and then stalled again after what like nine years he every other defendant there are like 40 of them you know like minor officials the fucking the engineer shit like that all of them except him out on bail have fled the country or a dead and he's just like in jail indefinitely his lawyer says he wants to trial the like families and of the like you know bereaved people and

then you know the victims they want to trial someone doesn't want to trial so I don't know what kind of like collusion or like right embarrassing shit that would come out or yeah it's it's just sort of like in limbo at the moment and is likely to remain so indefinitely well exactly yeah he's sort of like played this sort of like game of politics and has come off with you know stay in jail forever which is you know not as much as he deserves but more than you know you might expect Joey have you ever been in a Bangladeshi prison I do like like I said the facial expressions in this photo are incredibly amazing to me we've

got everyone who's been drinking for 14 straight hours wearing sunglasses guy looking down with utter contempt at our boy Rada here very professional beret clad I assume life for cop and then the guy hopefully wearing one of his own shirts who again hopefully off camera will be staring down the business end of a sometime soon so I assume labor conditions improved and American stopped doing horrible things buddy I put together a few things about this one so in in sort of like the aftermath of this and a couple of bad fires the year before and and that year Obama suspended Bangladesh's preferential tariff which

was sort of like a big deal economically and this sort of worked you know thanks Obama because it led to the 2013 Bangladesh Accord which is a five-year sort of like structure framework which ended in 2018 it's like a legally binding sort of like reform thing on buyers and you can check and see which brand signed it because a lot didn't most notably like American ones but like Walmart didn't sign it Levi's target gap Disney IKEA that's not our problem that's a that's a problem that was caused by a subcontractor of our subcontract yeah they're afraid that they might have to like have some actual liability for

any of this shit but so a whole lot of no it's fine so a whole lot of like frameworks and accords and commissions went into the Bangladesh readymade government industry and now as a result of these things there are a lot of articles from McKinsey and IFC sucking themselves off about how well all of the frameworks and accords and commissions are working as to whether or not they worked exports of readymade governments from Bangladesh are more than doubled still going up and some Bangladesh is on track to become like a sort of like middle-income country pretty soon so quite possibly things have gotten

materially better but this is still very much the sharp end of international capitalism and the real shit remains activists on the ground I highly recommend sort of pressure group called the clean clothes campaign I would like us to put a link to the website in the description you can donate to them you should but sort of like that they're good along with a bunch of others including the the ILO and like various like labor groups pressure and companies and because the best thing you can do in this case is is actually on us right if you if you pressure a Western buyer to be like hey why are you killing people in

order to sell me clothes they are more likely to respond to it they they care more about your purchasing power than they care about the labor power and there's still no official monument to this disaster the only monument that exists is one that was put up by the Communist Party of Bangladesh you can see it here very traditional you know sort of two hands holding the hammer and sickle it's right up in front of the building or where the building once stood right on the road and the government's trying to demolish it but there have been like these sort of human chain protests preventing them from doing that for like

years now yeah I mean obviously this is sort of a focal point for issues in the whole industry like there were like two days of rioting and like three cities across Bangladesh after this happened I was also during a general strike when this happened so you know nothing else the working class of Bangladesh seems to be pretty well organized yeah I mean this is this is the thing about like you know half jokingly being a Maoist Third Worldist is you know a lot of these people are communists and the communism is very acute because you can get the sort of like experience that as a Western communist you have to go back to the

early 20th century to get of yeah they just kill you like a lot more yeah then our other boy who we mentioned a couple times earlier writes an article oh boy this is for I want to say so on it might have been slates it was for Vox was it wait was it Salon it's good it's got a money s on it so it's a lot of Vox was founded in 2014 anyway our boy Maddie Iglesias says different places have different safety rules and that's okay yeah this is because Maddie Iglesias is the dumbest and most venal motherfucker on the face of the earth and in any just world his egg-shaped head would be into a marinara but his rationale here the

reason why it's okay that you know different places have different safety rules and that's okay worth as a human being is your socioeconomic yeah it's it's sort of like a I guess you would call it like a capitalist Menshevik position which is sort of Western social democracy is the highest state of of politics but in order to get there you have to progress through all the previous flames the article is still up actually yes force it is yeah I it's entirely appropriate for Bangladesh to have different and indeed lower workplace safety standards the United States drives innovation and it like facilitates the

rising tide the lifts of boats of incomes going up now policy of life going on there's an excuse for this and Maddie Iglesias should be building I'm usually pro free speech but I'm not for him we have a limited number of community strikes all right my question to this sort of narrative is if the intent is to raise standards of living where are you gonna offshore the labor to next when it gets too expensive in Bangladesh when the people start wanting things Sri Lanka it's not that expensive to build a building that doesn't fall down yeah well this is this is why this is not like is not hard to do this is this is why the

sort of the liberal view of this is this is a success story of like international pressure and international regulation to which bullshit no it isn't it's not a success story because this happened in the first place and what's the fucking grapes of wrath line there's a failure here that outweighs all our successes yes pure fucking evil dude anyway I would like to see Maddie Iglesias put in a shift in any of these places yeah yeah at gunpoint ideally yeah it's you don't tell Alice that we have a limited number of YouTube strikes I listen I didn't directly threaten his

life I don't think that I directly threatened it if I don't laugh I will throw my monitor on the ground so mm-hmm yeah I do actually have something to say that's not just a death threat which is that place capitalism exists to sort of squeeze the life out of you which we know I'm not saying anything that anyone listening to this podcast hopefully doesn't know by now but one of the things that they want you to forget is your humanity and not just your humanity but other people's humanity these are working people who are just trying to feed their fucking families in the situation they've been given that in no one would

voluntarily work here like if another better-paying job were available like it's not these people should not be treated as disposable I can't believe I have to fucking say those words that apparently I do I capitalism exists to squeeze the fucking life out of you in exchange for profits when you see shit like this it's perfectly okay to harass and annoy and and yell at people like Matt Iglesias or whatever fucking Democrat or Republic senator in Arkansas who wants you know the 13-year-old down the street whose mom is working three jobs a minimum fucking wage to chip in and work down at the

Tyson plant or chip in and work in the mines get black lung at 28 you should be pissed off you should stay pissed off at these fucking people they have nothing to offer you obviously capitalism will bite by gun or by not gun be defeated eventually the revolution will come God willing but in the meantime when people push this bullshit nonsense on you and deprive children and workers of their humanity and that extends to the shit we see going on in Tennessee right now with trans people it's your duty as a fucking human being not just as a less this is fucking human being to get mad at these people and fucking make them

feel scared to run their fucking mouths in public there and I did it without a single death sign well done bravo yes the only thing I can say after after reading this article is like you know exceeding an article even it's like a list of goals like three paragraphs like the worst shit I've ever read yeah he put it out the day of the only thing I can say is exceeding the floor loading of a building is not a safety rule it's just stupid by all counts it's like okay you want to put up the building so it can do the things you want it to do and when you're putting up the building because

again it would be a very marginal extra cost to have done this building right which our boy ronald decided not to do it's just the the stupidity in the short-sightedness of the whole thing and then and then like maddy coming here and trying to justify it in some fashion is is incredibly stupid yeah ridiculous I mean I can't control that current did that in the middle of recording you need less computers in your house Liam no I'm a tech enthusiast not a tech not not it not an engineer I thought you were kind of like I have one piece of technology in my home and it's a printer and I have a gun in my hand all the time

the noise okay I don't know I don't think you could make a case say it's saying that it's good that buildings collapse actually no because that just happens sometimes when it's such a small marginal cost to not have this happen it just mostly doesn't happen it's not even breaking a rule cuz it's the kind of thing you wouldn't really think to put as a rule it'll be essence of what a building is right the building shouldn't there's a reason why safest houses is an expression this is not supposed to have actually something to add here place which is that this dumb contrarian

mainstream neoliberal shit where it's just like well you know it's okay that this is happening and that's fine and like don't like the don't worry about it mentality basically I I imagined that like there are things I have like there are things I like I have to not worry about in order to like not kill myself right and I think that that's basically an effective late-stage capitalism no you should be fucking worried about your fellow man like it's not that's not okay like that sort of twee bullshit language like obviously the the proposition itself makes my blood boil but that like condescending smarmy Georgetown

mainstream trash factory bullshit think think what's it called think tank nonsense no that's why these people should get harassed off Twitter at the very least have you have you thought about how many people capitalism has lifted out of poverty though yeah congratulations we went from averaging $2 today to 250 a day woohoo yeah I yeah never believe a statistic you didn't make up yourself I took stats yeah no it's cool though we raised up a whole new generation of people in a lot of countries to like exploit others yeah it's great and then eventually like though there won't be like a bottom to

that anywhere we won't find that and especially we can't you know I think of that as a tendency of the race of profit to fall or anything like that no no it's gonna be fine it's gonna be fine in time and execute Jay Gould can I see that on the show every country is like on the path to become Sweden and it just requires an amount of like building classifying deaths and building collapses snooze also snooze but the snooze can come last it's a Dina depends on like the idea of bagladeshi workers working out like snooze I mean fast-fashioned snooze whatever that looks like in the realm of the absurd yeah

I don't know I'm just I'm just furious I mean I have no other birds for it and I it's easy to get burned out with this shit as we talk about all the horrible stuff that happens either on the goddamn news or whatever but I can't express enough how important it is to stay fucking pissed off at these people like your your anger if done right is the thing that will keep you alive can I can I mention at this point please you may be asking yourself but what about compensation for the victims the answer is this monitor on the ground yeah no no I mean no what do you know what do you mean no well a couple of brands offered

compensation a Primark offered $200 per family if you are able to provide DNA evidence of your relatives death in the collapse so don't bother don't bother just like that's that's that's worse than just saying fuck them I would rather you spit in my face than do that of the eat the shit out of my ass Primark there is a compensation fund there are 28 brands that you know contracted for garments and round a plaza and seven of them contributed to it it's it's about like from this article from 2014 it was it was at that point about 40 million dollars short I got nothing you know all I can say is there's a book

wretched of the earth by france vanan which has only become more relevant over time all right let's before I blow a blood vessel let's do the fucking yeah third yeah we have a segment on this podcast I jump the gun I'm sorry whatever dude we almost have it safety what am I looking at oh that's okay that's the thing which it's a contraption that's the contraption it's the doohickey what do you want to watch if I call it yeah now in a long discussion on Twitter a while back about what is what is it doohickey what is a whatchamacallit what is the thing

my Bob was I've been for Twitter for that discussion possibly yeah no this is more recent than that anyway I don't know I'll pay attention hello Justin Alice yay Liam and guest shut the fuck up and no guest here's a safety third that involves don't go in the hole and risk oh I love not going in the hole risks of imminent soup like homogenization homogenization during my gap year in my university studies I was employed in the chemical industry it's like you never listened to the chemical workers song more specifically polymers the facility produced thermo farmed plastic products using 2,500 pound rolls of

plastic sheets these rolls are extruded in-house which is my job you would think that melted plastic at 400 degrees Fahrenheit and 1000 psi is the most dangerous part of the facility and you'd be wrong yeah it is fun to watch though I'm seeing thermoforming videos goes like great thermoforming is a rather wasteful process you really just let that die in its ass huh I did a whole little thing too and it's got nothing I made a little like and gesture enough like what we can't I can't see the camera I know but I know but I was just saying I was I was missing to it I don't know I don't know I could be doing all kinds of

funny gestures right now they're performing as the rather it was it was an impressive hand gesture was like I was casting a little spell you know it's like I believe the gesture that would naturally go with the sound Alice your camera isn't even on no no I'm trying to just I'm trying to paint a picture with words oh do such a good job yeah okay this one broke us I think we just like the whiplash going from from Madaglas is to safety third has just fucked all of us oh oh you wait this one's this one has some whiplash in it too oh my ass dude I'm reading down on a lot of yeah just go okay okay after the parts are

created there's a lot of excess around the part that must be cut off in order to have a finished part yeah it's called circumcision look it up this is done using a trim press which punches the part out of the continuous sheet and cuts the sheet up into pieces these pieces are then fed into a grinder attached is an image of the trim press that is the subject of this incident see this this machine here mmm scary yeah the sheet containing completed parts comes from the left and is fed through the rails along the top of the machine coming down vertically into the big orange block on the right of the machine

the completed parts are then pushed out of the right side of the machine onto a table well the scrap is dropped below these are dropped directly down a ten foot hole into an industrial plastic grinder to reclaim the material the grinders consist of two rotors full of blades spinning towards each other and are air-raising 3,000 RPMs or so drop my case yeah drop my watch there was an access shoot about one five one one and a half feet in height and five feet in width underneath the table of the machine on the right of the image that was at a 45 degree angle to the vertical drop this was so that packing workers

could throw rejected products down into the grinder without needing to carry a huge boxes of scrap everywhere herein lies the issue it is entirely possible and regular in that it happened at least once a shift that scrap would get jammed up inside the chute causing a pile up this requires a packer to insert what was effectively just a metal stick into the access chute in order to free up the scrap that got caught up yeah I don't know how they get a they just have the Green Bay Packers on call or what I anyway on this day in particular the jam was particularly foul in that poking at it with a stick was in

insufficient to free the cot plastic instead of shutting the line down and obtaining the confined space entry permit necessary to enter the pit underneath the grinder used to maintain it the individual responsible here became possessed by an intense desire to create an OSHA reportable hazard and traumatized everyone in the building the individual in question open the hatch on the access chute to the grinder and inserted his left boot into the chute in an attempt to clear the blockage no you motherfucker wait please no do not do this yeah which is your least favorite leg yeah evidently this did not work as

intended I am unsure as to whether the entry was intentional or accidental but at some point this individual's second leg also entered the access shoot up doing that what's what's your second least favorite leg before anyone could stop him or even realize what in the world he was planning he then became entrapped within the access chute to the grinder only his upper body remained outside of the 45 degree part of the access chute and that was all that was stopping him from falling straight down the 10 foot drop into the angry rotating blades of chunky marinara I'm very glad I think I'm too fat to fit

down a five foot wide shot so I'm yeah I'm praying for it it's one and a half feet tall I think I would have a problem as well yeah I'll tell you I know I'll tell you within seconds we rushed to his aid an emergency shutdown was initiated on of all machines on the line he said he didn't want it I hate my legs yeah why don't we hire this guy all he talked about in the interview is how bad he hates his legs got the same attitude as someone has been trapped in the wreckage Iran a plaza for three days no no no never no one ever accused us of being tasteful yeah we're gonna get yelled at the comments for this one I

would deserve at this time sorry the thermoformer in the trim plat press successfully shut down in under half a second the grinder meanwhile began its process of breaking oh this would take at least 30 seconds even under emergency stop conditions for the momentum to be dissipated it took a titanic effort not at all aided by the fact he was now panicking during the rescue but we were able to successfully extricate this individual without him falling to a fate of certain soup like homogenization bars were swiftly installed into all grinder shoots making them too small for any adult human to enter the moral

children however welcome to Willy Wonka's our world yeah so many fucking mint stumper lumpers yes it's turned into paste what do you think the chocolate was made of anyway god damn the moral of the story is don't go into the hole mmm especially if the hole contains spinny blades of crushification I will do my best not to I feel very bad for this idiot hanging out of this hole like especially since the brief is like remain calm otherwise in the hole yeah yeah absolutely that's one of those situations where I think I would probably panic oh yeah I'd

definitely be panicking yeah yeah there was full of human being so I know this is probably this is what happens when you when you go in the hole going the whole telling you not to do it yeah I would be I would be pissing and shitting and screaming and crying and praying to God that I was fat enough not to fit down the hole less less of course is your hole that was made for you I can't stop you if it's seamlessly down that hole yeah yeah why don't they just weld a bunch of like steel or iron bars over all of those holes in the fault you know solved it easy no they freaks they did it's your issue oh yeah they did

didn't I whatever oh you mean in the in the anim in the manga why didn't they just yeah they do that at the end well yeah that's what I would do in that case you know I definitely want to put some kind of like like just just don't alert the public to the existence of the holes in the first place then yeah quick expanding foam or something yeah I can't get some foam in there get some like you know some bars over top you know put like a you could probably cover it up in such a way that you wouldn't even notice they were there you know yeah you can be just be walking around past your hole you wouldn't even know your whole

won't be out there right now you don't even notice your hole could be like within a mile of your house you know and you wouldn't even notice wouldn't even see you you would never get turned into a horrible string monster yeah that's that's the beauty of like public like public engineering yes Liam you did you get in the hole I'm in the hole down here with some sort of it's the thing they use on submarines to periscope it's not going too well finish this bitch up so I can go to bed dude okay that was our next episode will be on Chernobyl does anyone have any commercials before we're gonna be tasteful about that one

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