Well There‘s Your Problem - Episode 134: Oops! All News!

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, well, my local was going. My soundboard is ready. I think I I guess we're going. Don't worry. He already clicked the button. Yeah, I clicked the button. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. An hour and 20 minutes late to his own record. I can now he's rush. I got non consensual podcasting. Yeah, mostly into like consensual and on consensual podcasting is when you have like a explicit relationship that the podcast is not consensual, you know, isn't there someone you forgot to ask? No, god damn it. I, you know what's funny? It's, Corinne, I, Corinne told me that her, her, sort of her boss listens to us. So I can't wait for her to open up this episode. Hi, Karin's manager. And absolutely horrified by what we've done.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I mean, the thing is, this stuff follows you. We had an episode of writtenology, the Trashut just been off about books. We had an author on I was very invested in like you know This author liking me and you know me just like you know being impressive and smart sounding and and we get on the thing the first thing she says to me is oh this is the podcast with the the bit about the Dildo Peloton And I go Yeah, I guess so Well, hi. Hi.
Starting point is 00:01:26 This is not the podcast with the Dildo Palace on. This is the podcast about putting out oil fires with CUM. CUM. Yeah, this is the podcast about horse fist, right? If you want to listen to the very clearly not safe for work, engineering disaster's podcast, we are smart and formative, except're talking about calm firefighting. Oh no Say for work to be a way better title for this We fucked it we fucked it just when we're
Starting point is 00:01:52 53 not safe for work Yeah, we've only been doing this for like welcome to safety We'll just do it. We'll just do it. I adore it doesn't happen I'm not We'll just do it. We'll just do an and or it doesn't I don't know. I do. I should. I should. I should on the fly anyway. Uh-huh. Yeah. I so so for those of you who are who are who are not my parents and or current manager. Uh yeah. So tell all your friends about well there's your problem. Also known as not safe for work. I'm just doing it for a few minutes. We're not renaming the podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:27 No, I think we all. I think we all look. It's a kill. It's a kill. I have seized the radio stations. Oh, that's crisply. Oh, crisply. Crisply.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Yeah. Well, I left part of my normal mic stand, the one that I paid far too much, far too much money for from road, I left it down to shore. So I'm here speaking into a $10 mic stand into my $300 mic. So far in the past like four or five requirements. Here's the reason we're starting an hour, 20 minutes late.
Starting point is 00:03:00 In the past four or five recordings, all of your recording equipment has never managed to be in the same room as you. I'm very silly. You have to record yourself. You know that thing about helicopters where it's like, you know, 10,000 parts flying in loose formation.
Starting point is 00:03:16 That's your recording rig. Well, here's the thing, right? It's I always work to carry as little of it as possible. So I'm down to running USB-C headphones so I don't have to take my big Sennheiser 6XXs down or short and then I am running this out of a focus right Scarlet 212. So I pack that in my mic and that's all I use. And if it were up to me, I wouldn't be very clear on this.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I would be using like one of those $9 USB mics you get on Amazon. You would be recording this with a microphone, a pair of headphones with a microphone in them that you bought at a gas station. I have done that actually. I believe not on this program, but I leave I've done that on 10,000 losses. When you go down a shore, you're driving in a car with lots of space. Yeah, it does make shots to pack so lightly. Bross, you've traveled with me, right?
Starting point is 00:04:10 You know how bad I am at packing, Bross. Well, you also yell at me for having a huge suitcase, despite the fact that it's not that big. It's not that big. I just like, it's not that big either. It's a big, married couple. My greatest joy in life is just annoying you through whatever train station we're in. Following you around and complaining that the breakfast here isn't very good. And I remember what it used to be better.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah, I'm looking at you. There you three station is completely fucked right now. They ruined all of the food. There's no fucking bar. You can't do it. I still I want to I know I want to be able to eat out of train station. I want to have a nice leisure. What is the point of a grand train hall if there's no like in there? That's ridiculous. Yes. You want to tell you what you want. You like the Daniel Moynihan like train holes to have like a steakhouse in the middle of
Starting point is 00:05:00 it. I need a bar. That's that's that's that's that's that's the state does even have a bar anymore. It doesn't even have a bar anymore. There's no to go in Penn station. We go into generous. But we were keeping the bar open. Exactly. That because of us, it's fight of us, the bar closed. Uh huh. Well, it closed because bridge waters was the kitchen was on top of the staircase for the underpass to the subway. That's ridiculous, man. What? What is, again, what is the point of a grand like Magnificent waiting hall if I can't also get a nice cocktail to look at the people? Yeah, exactly. I mean that that closing down a bar and not replacing it was a bad decision. I'm making everything you've Tellitarian. I
Starting point is 00:05:43 deserve to indulge. It deserves your little treats. I think we can agree on that. I deserve my little treats. All right. So let's continue to introduce the podcast. Let's continue. Nothing is nothing with
Starting point is 00:05:55 family. I'm for a reason. Hello, and welcome to Weller's your problem. It's a podcast about engineering disasters with slides. I'm Justin Rosniak. The first thing's talking right now. My pronouns are he and him. Okay, go.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I'm Alex Cole, Kelly on the first news. So now, if I was a shin, huh? Okay, Liam. Yeah, Liam. Hi, I'm Liam Anderson. My pronouns are he and him. And I'm the person who is frantically trying to get through all of your Patriot DMs are a lot of the way someone someone's yelling at us to check the PO box to. Okay, I'll do that tomorrow. I have box too. Okay, that's it tomorrow. I have the key. I didn't lose it this time.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Thank you. Put it on a key ring or key ring. It's all it is. It is. Well, don't thank me. Thank Karen because she did that. Thank you, Karen. So you may be aware that there is a lot of news. A lot of yeah. So much. A lot of news happening much. So much. So much. And so much so, in fact, that we got quite behind with the news that we like to do every
Starting point is 00:06:50 second. We're sorry. Yeah, every episode. And so what we've chosen to do this time is a very special episode where the subject is the goddamn news. Oops, all news. Whoops, all news. Whoops, all news.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Oh, it's good. That's not right. Yeah, yeah. We're not going to do this again unless we feel like it. Unless there's a lot of news. It's like Lenin said, right? You know, there are fucking decades where weeks happen and there are weeks where decades happen.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And this was a week where decades happened. And we're going to get into some of those decades. News theme. News. Big big big ass train wreck in India. Yes, real big. Perfect. Uncommon that you.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Managed to involve three trains in one wreck what they managed it Yeah, this is like 300 people I think have died And like that like they injured like a thousand Yes, this is on the east coast of India in in adisha I'll be honest. I do not fully understand what's supposed to have happened with these three trains. So my understanding is that there was a freight train
Starting point is 00:08:11 and it somehow side-swiped or was side-swiped by an express passenger train, that express passenger train then derailed and smashed into another express passenger train come in the other way. Yeah. And they they said this was a signaling era right now, like, they said that the interlocking change, but then they said that like one of the signals had been manually overridden, which I, I don't even
Starting point is 00:08:48 probably shouldn't have done that over, right? Yeah. Why would that be? Yeah. This is India, you know, where they got big trains, they go very fast, and they're very full of people. So, you know, this is not a great situation to be in. That a great situation to be in. Yeah, they've suggested that maybe it's like a wire got cut during digging, which, you know, call it on one or a short, but like the interlocking failed and it rooted this, the Coramander Express towards Chennai, which is going like 80 miles an hour, it roots it into the back of a freight train in a siding, and then like spills it onto the other track, where the last three coaches get hit by the express in the opposite direction. I'm just looking at this picture just fox me up. Oh yeah, it's real bad. You ever watch videos of
Starting point is 00:09:47 Indian trains. What strikes you is that's so much the speed but the violence of the speed. Because you know, it's just this brick electric locomotive going like 110 miles an hour. It's there's dust and dirt everywhere spewing up around it, you know, it's like, and then all the cars are huge Yeah, I'm crowded as well. Yes, I mean this is very crowded Part of our legacy, you know, this is part of the this Britain's full Because if you want to do the sort of like smug well, we gave him the railways thing You got to be responsible for the ways in which the railways are terrible and this is one of them Wow, I'mific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So to, to, I almost said circle back, we're not doing corporate lingo on here. Set back, run this up the flagpole. The synergize, the synergize news. Do we use the phrase hook up in uncomfortable ways to make out with this piece of news? Yeah, exactly. Anything from making out to Adal in a way that truly boggles the mind Oh, yeah, around this piece of news. Oh, yeah, so you must give rusty trombone to the news Why why was would the signal have been manually interfere with was what it sounded like? Am I wrong on that? I think that was the initial suspicion and then they've sort of said no
Starting point is 00:11:02 Okay, okay and then they've sort of said no, I think it happens. Okay, okay. It might have just been trying to move that has happened in an unconventional way. What, the Sunset limited in the 50s, right? That happened in the Sunset, or is that was like the 90s, not the 50s? Sunset limited was the 90s, yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:18 but that was due to a damage to bridge. Yeah, all anyone will say sort of like as far as the Indian government goes is technical reasons, which kind of is expansive, you know. Sometimes you will override the signal if you have to move the train and sort of a controlled fashion, which is not outside of usual operating procedures. It's not like, you know, unheard of, but then you need permission from the dispatcher. Everyone's got to know what's going on and so on and so forth. In this case, it seems unlikely that you would do a move where you're passing a signal
Starting point is 00:11:58 at danger in a controlled fashion at 110 miles an hour. That's more of like a 10 mile an hour thing. Yeah. And I mean, electricity sometimes mischievous, sometimes you get the rogue electron or whatever. And you get a shortness circuit or something. This kind of like, you know, electric signaling is, you know, it's fail safe, mostly, but trends are hard.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Trains are hard. Trains are really difficult. And when you have a lot of like very crowded trains running very fast and close proximity then, you know, if this happens like 0.1% at the time, that still kills a shitload of people. Yeah. And Indian railways have a pretty good safety record overall of not killing people who are on the train. Killing people who aren't on the train is a different thing entirely.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Much of that. That's all for that. Yeah. Yeah. Trains, trains are designed to keep you safe if you're in the train. Not so much if you're on the roof of the train, you're standing in front of the train standing, standing on the tracks, just milling around, yeah. Standing there on the train.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah, I mean, that's sort of like, that's under investment for the most part, because that stuff that you can fix with, even just like putting fences up, like public education, having the seats available, that people don't have to sit on the fucking roof. It must be awful to be like a train driver in India because you're killing so many people. Like on a daily basis. I mean, that's a lot of like developing country, like train experiences too, especially like,
Starting point is 00:13:37 some of the like rice of work and stuff where it's like going through like right next to people's houses and stuff like that. It's gone through a market, it's gone through. It's gone through stuff like that. It's gone through a market It's gone through exactly. You know, it's gone through soccer stadium. It's gone through a I don't know an airport around Way doing all the stuff from like police squads It's going through the polling alley. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's worse if you're driving like an express train in India because you know The training there seems to be just gun it, right?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah. Really, like, you have no reaction time for any of this stuff at all. I would imagine, you know, they have pretty good infrastructure. All things considered. Maybe they want to invest in some fences. You'd pick him. Yeah. I mean, this is like, I, the Indian government is corrupt and fascists in a lot of ways. And much like any number of governments, you know, beside those two things, which many numbers of other governments still are, also does not really give a shit about the railways. Oh yeah. Weird how those things are correlated.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Turns out fascists, not actually that interested in making the trains run on time. really give a shit about the railways. We had how those things are correlated, turns out, fascists, not actually that interested in making the trains run on time. Fascists, it turns to make your trains much worse, to be honest. They're road guys, they all want roads. Because that's modernity. You drive on the sort of, and that's sort of universal, whether that's the Trans-Amazonica in Brazil, or whether you want to, you know, a drive from one side of India to the other, that's the good shit because that means that you're sort of like you're coming up in the world. Fucking sucks. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, invest in railways, please. Invest in railways. That's not happening. And railway safety. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Next slide. No, I'm not. I mean, while in, you know, nice developed countries when nothing bad ever happens, New York City was destroyed again. Oh, yeah, everyone was saying that. Not fun. No, we were fine. Yeah, so you were not fine my guy. I you have allergies. I'm amazed you you were okay, but yeah, Karen did not have a good time. I
Starting point is 00:15:54 Bucks County correspondent on pain did not have a good time. I was fine as I am simply built different. I wanted to see some orange. I didn't see any orange. Yeah, I wanted the sky to look like the goddamn president. There's a cheeto in New York City in the goddamn atmosphere. So the way I am seeing the whole world too. Apologies to Jake Flores, who I stole that joke from. The way that this started, by the way, has to do with carbon offsets. You know how you've spoken before about how carbon offsets are fake and bullshit?
Starting point is 00:16:32 bullshit. And that you can't actually, you know, we talked about old growth forest and how you can't replace it with monoculture at length. Well, it turns out that in order to make people feel better about their consumption, one of the things that we've been doing is replacing old growth forest with monoculture. This is so that you can have a little like sustainably sourced sticker on the thing or so that a company can say, okay, we do build the X37B puppy killer, right? But we are a carbon neutral company because, as it turns out, we paid a bunch of kebab
Starting point is 00:17:12 quag guys to plant the worst kind of pies on my dad. Yeah, yeah, we paid them to plant a bunch of pine trees like in a line. And then, you know, fucking John FrFrançois, or whatever, carelessly discards a cigarette. One of these things goes up like a fucking bomb. And, you know, all of these guys are left looking at this monoculture that has no way of resisting fire, but also sort of no, like a healthy reaction to fire, just burning the fuck down, going, kei-li's dab on nagsia, verks, blosil iski do, right? And then all the smoke from that. Fucking, I just was not ready for it.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I was not ready for it. I was steed dab on nagsia, kei-li's the smoke. and it fucking, the smoke comes off of this shit and it goes south. And in a way that is visible from space, inhaling wildfire smoke is really fucking bad for you, even at low concentrations because there's a bunch of weird shit in there. And even big forest fires aren't meant to burn this way. This is a product of climate change, the product of monoculture, the product of all of these things,
Starting point is 00:18:32 at which meant that the air quality in New York City and a bunch of other places including Philly, dropped a stone overnight. And you get this cool orange sh cool orange shea-sa effect. Yes. My understanding is a lot of this is sort of, you know, monoculture is an aspect of it, but a lot of it is just, yeah, it's really hot and dry in the Canadian shield.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And there's a lot of boreal forest to burn. And they don't really fight those fires in the same way they do in let's say California because no one lives there. You know, you have a couple of first nation settlements. You make sure the fire stays away from there. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to fight these fires because people up there, they don't have California brain. So they don't live in it. It'll burn itself out. I imagine that. Yeah, yeah. They're like, okay, this is fine, it's natural. Let's not put any effort into fighting it. It's supposed to California where like everyone has decided, oh my God, I love nature so much.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So I'm going to build a cabin on four acres of tinder and then in the process destroy nature, but also in the process forcing them to fight every single goddamn fire that happens so that you can you know Live your your quiet life of nature You know at the at the expensive massive amounts of firefighting infrastructure Nothing says a quiet life of nature like a bunch of USFS Engines like at the end of your driveway a bunch of USFS engines, like at the end of your driveway four times a year, spraying water onto like a massive amounts of fire retardant. Yeah. It's like, I really feel connected to nature. And I see the fucking B 52 that's been converted into a mom and go. Exactly. I just love,
Starting point is 00:20:24 I love being here with the squirrels and the birds, which have been guys read. Right. Quiet. Like, you know, I'm holistically connected to nature. Oh, that's a, that's a cardinals out here today. Huh? We're all just a bunch of sparrows covered.
Starting point is 00:20:40 It's just a, just a bunch of sparrows covered in fire retard. I we we got to do the the wildfires episode soon, but like, I don't know, I we're in the middle of like what passes for a heatwave here. Americans get kind of shesy about it because they're like, it's 29 degrees, it's like 87, I think. Yeah, but it's aren't you guys on the same latitude as the last in Pan Amble? I am on the same latitude as Anchorage, and it has been 27 degrees for the last week.
Starting point is 00:21:13 It will be 27 degrees for the next few months. There is not a cloud in the fucking sky. And all of the houses are built to insulate, but only in the hot way, which is cool. I didn't think that was like thermodynamically possible, but they manage. I am going to buy houses built. The thing about this is it gives me anxiety in a couple of different ways. The first way it gives me anxiety is that it's not even July yet and it's hot. Like it's officially a heatwave, right? Wait until we get into August.
Starting point is 00:21:48 The second thing that gives me anxiety is knowing that it's gonna be worse every year of the rest of my life. Hey! I don't care for that. I don't care for that knowledge. But you know what? What really sort of like makes me feel better, what I can take comfort in in these dark times is knowing that no one who is responsible for
Starting point is 00:22:12 making this happen will ever face anything other than the best possible consequences, where they all get to retire. They all get to live right. like like like Mussolini see see I'm making Devon's job easier. It's real fucking bad. Yeah, feels real bleak. You know that Simpson's thing. This is the worst day of your life. This is the worst day of my life.
Starting point is 00:22:38 The worst day of your life. So Yeah, that's yeah, I it's been yeah, Ph, uh, it's been, you know, uh, Philly has been mostly tolerable, uh, I don't know, it's like, it's June, it's like 67 out. So I assume that we are about to be overrun by some sort of horrific climate change. Uh, actually, it's pretty tough.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Not, uh, I haven't even installed my air conditioner this year. It's been pretty ball me. I am just like in July when it's 97 every day. You got to replace those beer cans. So, so people as I understand in New York, while this was really heavy, we're like staying indoors and like masking, which is good. But like it's still going to fuck you up if you have like a very old very young. Now, if you have like my parents, which is a lot of people, by the way, that's I know we always say that as like a thing is not a throw away thing. That's a lot of fucking people.
Starting point is 00:23:34 But long-term, but eight no joke. No, but one thing that is that was funny though was the way that rich people and Manhattan dealt with it for the first day when it hadn't really sunk in. Yeah, there are some gorgeous photos of people doing like, fucking Tai Chi at an equinox on the roof of a skyscraper. And the sky is, it looks like tomato. I can't fuck a look at the gorgeous. I don't understand how you can do that
Starting point is 00:24:03 without getting such intense vertigo. You just fall off the building It's not ever gonna go like you do, man. Yeah, I would I would Instantly fall off the building. I'm just saying that not everybody does I Absolutely I I I cling to rise like a like a like a newborn koala Yeah, there's a bridge near me that like, it's not even that high, but anytime I walk over, I'm over it.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I'm like, ooh, fuck. I don't love being on my roof. Yeah, I'm just like, oh, that's a, that's quite a drop, isn't it? Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah. Yeah, more of a, more of like a sort of a second story guy. That's the ideal height for me. Anything higher is crappy, anything lower than people look in your window. Yeah, more of a, more of like a sort of a second story guy. That's the ideal height for me.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Anything higher is crappy. Anything lower than people look in your window. You could do the London thing of having like a basement flat where people can look down into your shit. I don't, I don't like that idea because then you, then you die in super storm Sandy. Oh, that's. I want to avoid that. I'm, I'm not a big fan of basement apartments. Despite what the Yenby is saying. With the orange, the orange sky descending, and this is like
Starting point is 00:25:15 the blue water rising. New York City is going to look like a Rothko painting in a couple of years. Oh, yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Well, GZ could collect it right before we all go down smoke. Yes. I've been listening to a lot of GZ recently. Watch the throw it as a terrific album. It's not really, not really a huge Shazie fan. I mean, I, the thing is I, I think mostly about how it should have been him instead of Beggow. Because I, I just, I go back and listen to the, listen to his verse on monster and tell me that I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You're not. I'm not. I think that kind of, he's gotta, he's gotta change his name though. It's just Jay, because they got rid of the Z-Train. Just Jay. Yeah, just Jay, yeah. Yeah rid of the Z train. Just Jay was the yeah, just just Jay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:06 See that. Well, eventually all of this will be underwater. New York says he will be destroyed for an end and final time. And we can do a live show there on like a big boat, maybe. Yeah, or like a disc. I'm sure it's the guy of the wrecks of Old Manhattan, you know? Yeah. Post-apocalyptic sort of thing, yeah. There's a great Aaron West song where he talks about everything in New York being reclaimed by the sea. And somebody who hates New York,
Starting point is 00:26:37 I highly recommend the song, we like the G-Train. No, it's, is it, I don't know, it doesn't matter. It's off the bitter sweetie, Pee-Gol-Lus. No, it's is it I don't know it doesn't matter. It's off the bittersweet EP go. What's not important? We we all have a madness, but possibly you have wildfires madness. I Yeah, I mean it's it is obviously very fucking depressing to listen to people be like this is normal in the same way that like I you know people I was talking to my mom the day about she's like it hasn't felt this bad since people, I was talking to my mom the day about she's like, it hasn't felt this bad since 1968,
Starting point is 00:27:10 where, you know, we were convinced that Richard Nexos this is going to roll tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue. I'm kind of nostalgic for your 60s and 70s environmental shit like Love Canal or like Silent Spring or whatever, where you were like, okay, well, the fuck and the government is destroying all of the environment, right? Right. Whereas now you do that and you just, you have data, like you have evidence. You're not just like, oh, it's bad in this one place. I feel that, right. I read, literally, I read an article in the Guardian this morning. There's a guy, he did the soundtrack for Ap, literally, I read an article in the Guardian this morning.
Starting point is 00:27:45 There's a guy, he did the soundtrack for Apocalypse Now, and then basically that, this is the thing, like doing one cool thing in the 70s or 80s meant you have, you'd like now have infinity money. So you can just do whatever he wanted. And what he wanted was bioacoustics. So he does this thing where like since the 70s he's just been going out into the field and just doing sound recording and recording sounds gave to like wildlife sounds. And he has this exhibition in San Francisco right now which I really hope comes to London because I want to see it, but we're here at rather. But he talks about how yeah, everything's getting quieter because all the shit fucking dying Like you used to go out for like 10 hours and you would get one hour of usable material Now it's like a thousand hours to do that because everything is so much quiet
Starting point is 00:28:38 Because you know, we're killing all the insects and then that's killing all the birds And so everything is as much quieter and there's much less like distinctiveness in the sort of like sound landscape and some of the habitats just don't exist anymore either. So I think about that and I feel very very positive you know. Yeah yeah I would say it's very it I like to imagine, obviously, I was talking to Kurt about this, about people, the ways in which people are very comfortable with being racist.
Starting point is 00:29:17 A friend was talking about being at a cook out or something and people were just being super fucking racist and super fucking transphobic. And Kruva's talking about the guilt she feels, you know, about like I feel like I just like I'm overwhelmed trying to help people and this and that. And it's like, then you realize you're in the minority of people who even give a shit that much.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And it's just like, oh, we're fucked aren't we? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's very tough. It's very hard. It's very just frustrating. And these people never get stuff with consequences. But they do have names and addresses if you want to get arrested. Not to not to bring it back to COVID, right? Because you know, I'm not one of
Starting point is 00:29:55 these people who is like, we should stay locked down forever. Right? No, you got a lot of trouble for it. I did. I did. But I think a lot about in terms of like how ordinary people like normal people react to this stuff and how we've kind of like lost a capacity for empathy in some ways. Or maybe we just never buy that, I don't know. No, I think we've lost. Do you remember like before lockdown, but when shit was getting really bad and like everyone knew it was getting really bad? January of 2020, yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:26 You had like students, like college students and stuff going on vacation to these like massive pool passes and resorts and stuff. Yes. Yes. Yes. All giving each other COVID and then getting interviewed and like a girl with the most fucked up voice you've ever heard being like, you actually have COVID. And that was just like, it was, that was cool, right? Remember that? What if we had that same level of decision making? What if we applied that to like everything else as well? Yes. It's just such a nihilistic way to view the world as basically just
Starting point is 00:31:00 a thing I can extract more and more out of whether it be human beings or whether it be the Earth itself. It's just such a, a impressingly, just a so good, rim-weight-a-look at things. I don't know. I just, I know that we also need this podcast as basically group therapy. I just, yeah, it's very, hopefully for you too, listen.
Starting point is 00:31:23 It's exhausting. And you're not a bad person for being burnt out, but what you have to do is stay pissed off all the time and turn what is what is a turn those clapping hands and tick angry but angry bunched fists. Yeah, yeah, and then when people are protesting your kid's story time, what you do is you go there with an M4 and You announce your presence will say I Anyone I said announce your presence. I said announce your presence. I am not I am I am not telling you to kill anyone who's protesting Trit or drag story time, but I'm just saying I'm just saying. And I believe that you can serve a valuable community security role.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Get a hellbird. Really scared of this. Get a hellbird, get a moron. Show up to drag queen story time. And you just got out. Yeah. Yeah. For this is pretty funny when, um, you know, these, uh, these right wing guys go at the protest like a drag queen story hour or something or other. And, uh, there's like people there from, you know, John Brown gun club or socialist, right, full association or pink pistols or whatever. And they're like, well, those guys aren't supposed to have guns. We're supposed to have the guns. Yeah, guess what, motherfucker, it goes both ways. Did we will not stand for bi-arrasher? Aha.
Starting point is 00:32:50 So what, yeah, I do like the idea of, I'm giving away a free shirt idea. Protect trans kids and it's two crossed albards. Pretty good. That's pretty good. If anyone wants to form a sort of like a shelter and if anyone wants to form like a squad of pikemen to protect drag queen story time, wherever that's legal to carry a pike into a Texas legal everywhere. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:16 Texas legalized swords not too long ago. So it's Pennsylvania carry. Pennsylvania Halberd association. Yeah, I think the thing is just in general terms for Americans, if you have to live with the second amendment, you may as well get your end out of it too. Like, you know, blessing anticaurs, benefit in the hazard, if you have to be around people who can shoot you, fucking, you may as well protect yourself as best you can. Let me ask you a, I'm on the American Knife and Tool Institute webpage.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Now, do you think a Howard counts as a knife? It's a knife on a stick when you think about it. Well, fucking home, broad charger. Any knife or other cutting insurer which can be used as a weapon that has a cutting insurer to that. And I know a tool or an instrument commonly or merely used to trade professional calling.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Shall we consider the cutting weapon while actually being used in the acts of exercise that that trade professional or calling? I mean, being a halberd's men. That's a claim. That's a claim. That's a column. The column's got him.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I mean, yeah, right. And this is a very Catholic city. You could probably get away with carrying a halberd. Mr. I applaud you to find out. Yeah, find out in the sense of research. No, find out in the sense of fuck around. No, no, but do do protect trans kids with Albert's. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think we can we can agree on that where it's legal. No, no, never mind. Sorry, Devin. All right. What's that's the news news? Hey, Pat Robertson died.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Speak your thumb around of finding out. Suck that shit, although I did read a very interesting article from, if you get where it was, you can find it about the 700 clubs. I, uh, contract with what was formerly Fox Family is now, was then ABC Family is now freeformable by the Disney Corporation, where it's basically totally ironclad and Disney does its best to like stash it Yeah, Disney pays Pat Robertson's family tons of money to Air his show where he rips off poor people in exchange for the worst conservative commentary you've ever heard I'm very glad personally that he's dead. Robert and I piss on your grave. I think I think that he once said by the way, which sticks with me,
Starting point is 00:35:50 is he he tried with a bunch of other evangelicals to get fucking same-sex marriage to campaign against its legalization in Scotland. And when that failed, he said, in Scotland, you can't believe how strong the homosexuals are, which I think they should put that on the road sign driving north from Barric. You know, Falchigaalva, you can't believe how strong the homosexuals are. When Ed Robertson noted Lexentonian. Yeah, you've got a Regents University sex she was on. When at Robertson noted Lexingtonian,
Starting point is 00:36:25 yeah, you can go to Regents University and then s*** on the steps. Uh, we, uh, in my home county of York, uh, York, Pennsylvania, we have a, a little town called Dover, which wanted to teach intelligent design. Uh, this was defeated, was defeated at the Supreme Court. And Pat Robertson said that Dover is like a godless, sinful place and it's like,
Starting point is 00:36:51 yeah, it is, but not for the reasons you fucking think, but they did. What I wanna know is how soon after this Foso was taken, did he die? Cause it kind of been long, right? Like, this dude wasn't just like he, smoking that shit that killed Jerry fall. Well, right old age of 93.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Because a good guy young and basses look forever. Where is Kissinger? Yeah, he looks like they injected Alfredi Newman with the like, Algeria syndrome. He looks kind of pickled. He looks kind of pickled. Yeah. Yeah. He's Richards, but you know, I mean, I think the thing is, right. I hesitate to wish hell on anyone, right? And I just, I think it would be funny for Pat Robertson to die and contend with being in Muslim heaven. I think that would be a good time.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I would wanna see that. I think it's reasonable. Even if you're a bit of a universalist, right? Even if you think that hell is like empty or almost empty, right? I think you are allowed to get some shard and Freud out of like this dude dying, being like damn, guess I was wrong about that guy specifically is an hell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 All right, the fun one about, you know, these people have names and addresses I have walked by his house several times in my life Yeah, most recently in the middle of the night with the whole bird It was weird. I was weird how you were carrying what in each a Ross doorwheeling Albert Hey, Pat, how about you come outside for a second? Yeah, and the cause of death right was like heart failure, but what they don't mention on the death certificate was that that was like proximate to a whole bird threatening. Yes. No, unfortunately, he I believe he moved to Virginia Beach. I moved away from Lexington.
Starting point is 00:38:37 To join the seal. Yeah, Lexington, Virginia, and now Lexington, Kentucky. Pat Robertson, we're a big fucking like bone frog tattoo, working out and then like an open gym of a junior beach. But it was like quite literally down the street from where my grandparents lived. And I believe that a lot of docks and rosers, grandhears, believed a lot of repulsive things. And now he is dead.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah. Yeah. But like this is the thing. We're sort of doing an in-memory-am segment from this point on in the podcast because we've had a lot of like little seasonings of deaths of celebrities. Where is Kissinger? Yeah. I was asking that.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I truly was. And you know, he just had a hundred and had a whole life. My mother called me to curse him out. I mean, I think the thing is, we've all got that one that we're waiting for. And in my case, you know, the bottle of champagne was open when Blair dies. But Kissinger, he's been denying us for too long. He's like, you know, Edgy, Edgy, Edgy, he's gunning. Yeah. Yeah. He's gunning.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I got to do it. Thank you. I, uh, Kissinger, Goon, can you stop? We all know what that means. Stop it. You can trace it. You can like pandemic like test and trace your way around when each of us became aware of it like through the different podcasts or just being online. Yeah. I think we have we have zero of goon. Why can't we ever just have a normal nice nice podcast where we don't talk about, um, or fucking good. I just, I, you know, I, I just one of these days, we're going to have the family-friendly fucking WTYP story hour in which no one dies or is covered in semen or poop. Maybe possible maybe maybe
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah, that'll be a big Nickelodeon slime do hikki except it's On a massive industrial scale Yes, darling if you can cut in please the Kasey Perry getting slimed in the face by the Nickelodeon Slime Box, that'll be ideal. Oh god. Oh, oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
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Starting point is 00:41:43 No, no, no, I know that I'm not talking like good race horses. I'm just talking like horses. Yeah, I'm talking like fuck, fuck, fuck oil, right? Like I'm talking like bunker cop, right? You know what I mean? Like whatever the horse comes with with a diesel fuel is. That not diesel is more highly refined than bunker fuel. Yeah, bunker fuel.
Starting point is 00:42:05 That's what I meant. Yeah. The life cycle of the horse you're envisioning here is the horse, the horse is like raised and trained, uh, is like joked off a bunch of times, goes to like the Kentucky Derby, falls at the first thing and is then shot, right? No, my horses aren't even making it that far. These are, these are like just nice little like birthday party horses, right? Like you just, you just get a horse and you put a little horn on its head for a unicorn. I don't, I, these horses, I'm just like, no, you know, what?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Let's move on. Why don't we just move on? Yes, I've, I've put a new news on the screen. Thank you. You're welcome. Licing a candle on trans day of Rembrandt's here. Yeah, yeah, Teddy Kaczynski died. Yes. A most notable poll.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yes. Yes, a famous Polish American. Yeah. We lost, we're down to like one list of Polish American. Off to the college. We lost we're down to like one literate Polish American After the game show. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I'm I steal all my best jokes and twister. Um, yes No, so so Ted Kaczynski if you're confused by the trans joke. This is legitimately true He he once went to a psychiatrist at I think the University of Washington to start gender transformation and treatment, like gender transition, and then got too scared
Starting point is 00:43:32 and mad in the waiting room and went out of the clinic deciding to blow shit up, which is about the least infuriating interaction you can have with that system of care, I will say. And that's sourced by the way, that's sourced to the Washington Post, you wrote about it at his trial. But yeah, Ted Kaczynski, mathematician, repressor, the one the enthusiastic, enthusiastic user of the United States Postal Service. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:09 There is, there is an unopened unibom on eBay for sale right now that you can buy. If you want to like go out with a bang, right? Like, do you think, I, I wonder if the unibom still works though, you know, that's a thing. I would immediately try and open it. Yeah. You know, this is like the unibom fizzled. Yeah, I'd be like, damn, I could, I could, you know, I just want to see. I just want to see if it works.
Starting point is 00:44:42 We can just build a bomb, dude. We have, yeah, but that would want to see if we just build a bomb dude. We have that but that would want to be a real unobomb. Yeah. Okay. So we'll build up. I don't know. We'll just get drunk one day and just do it ourselves. There's like an authentic. We'll just do it. We'll just do it. It's like a side on. I get it. The rookie card. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ted Kaczynski rookie card. I mean, one thing I kind of I don't want to gloss over is that, I don't know if you're like supposed to say this ethically or not, but like Ted Kaczynski did die by s***, right? And actually, you'll have to cut that because no, we have to, we have to fucking cut that
Starting point is 00:45:19 because the last recording we did, YouTube put a big disclaimer on it for mentioning that. Yeah, I believe that. I can't do that. I a big disclaimer on it for mentioning that. I believe that I can do that. I, you know, the way our listenership works, I don't even think it matters. I guess it'll be happier with it. I saw all of those freaks in the comments, like I clicked through a really cool disclaimer.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I'm excited to hear you faces of death motherfuckers. No, no, no, no. But was also a person of interest in the Chicago Tylenol murder, which I didn't know. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but the thing is, right, the point I was making with this is that he was in, I like, FC, I like, whatever, a federal like FCI, or like whatever a federal medical facility but before that he was in Florence, right? And the point I wanted to make is that Supermax is the worst form of torture we've developed that for someone without laying any hands on them.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Fucking we didn't put this in as a news item and we should have Robert Hansen also died in Florence. You know, the guy that made the movie breach about noted Soviet and then Russian spy. And I just wanted to just wanted to express that it is hell on earth. Yeah, and no human being no matter how heinous deserves that. No, you're 100% correct on that. It's beyond unnecessary. At some point, and this is not a joke, like we're someone like Hansa's like just like mercy kill them basically genuinely.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Genuinely, genuinely, we don't need to do all this. Like I would rather be killed than to be held in like, I think most people would, I think most people would. And I would not blame you for it. Yeah. I, I understand most people would, and I would not blame you for it. I understand the, you know, the government's insatiable need to draw blood, but that's not what I fucking believe. You can just, I don't know, send him to live on a farm. It can be Ted Kaczynski's roommate. You know, you would absolutely watch, you would absolutely
Starting point is 00:47:25 watch a buddy comedy about Robert Hansen and Ted Kaczynski at ADX. But you absolutely fucking watch that show. Somebody write it. No, if you're listening, because the thing is, the thing is, right, there are people. I will accept another toast for prison abolitionists, I accept that there are people who are too dangerous to others to be allowed freely to look around and to be like, harm children. I'm kind of like, no, not very sympathetic to you.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Sure, sure. Yeah, but the thing is, if you get all of those people together in a secure environment and then you let them interact with each other, what you think is going to happen is a kind of suicide squad, a magnetopoprism thing where they use their own strengths to like overpower the guards or whatever. That doesn't fucking happen. What happens is they don't go insane. And like that's probably a good thing. That's like a good from a human rights perspective. They're not clawing their own eyes out out of like sheer horror never perceiving another human being again. You got to fucking like your solitary confinement is one of the most
Starting point is 00:48:29 inhumane things in the US. And that's saying something. I think you mean anyway, you're 100% 100% correct. The other thing you got to think about here is, uh, the, uh, all the 17 year old anarcho primitiveists are gone in, I go crazy over this. Oh my god. Yeah. If you don't, if the thing is tech is over this. Oh my god. Yeah, if you don't I the thing is Texas is a leftist icon if you don't fucking read them. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:48:52 It was it was this close to being it was just a black pill white nationalists basically you hated everybody Like like he can't he came by it honestly and the bodyway the bad way Yeah, you like you do have to give him that the spleen is like authentic, right? And it's not difficult to make a critique of technology. You don't got a fucking unibum anybody about it. Yeah, it's about to say it's not a crazy. It's not a crazy stretch to say, hmm, some aspects of technology are bad actually.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Right. Okay know, uh, okay. Now what, I guess I'm going to unibomb people about it. But like once, once he was in unibomb a prison, the unibombing was over. Like he wasn't going to unibomb anyone else because where was he going to get his hands on the unibomb, right? It was, it was purely vindictive. And I'm not even against the existence of some kind of punishment. I'm not even against some time vindictiveness, right? But like long, long after it had ceased to have any value at all beyond just like, no, we need this guy to be in a whole suffering for the rest of his life. And it's cool that the federal government has always had this desire to do this.
Starting point is 00:50:05 We've talked about fucking Alcatraz before, as an example of the feds being like, no, I saw a movie where Jimmy Cagney scared me, so now we gotta do this now. And yeah, Florence in particular is like, it's a nightmare I heard. I heard it described as a cleaner version of hell. So yeah, at least this one dude was not a nice person, not a good person.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Blue dude's hands off. Um, that is. Read long. Shit. Read book. Read book. Edges. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And you can read, you can read Zerzad if you want to, you know, be edgy about it. I like Zerzad. Uh, yeah. you can read Zerzon if you wanna be edgy about it. I like Zerzon. Yeah, and there are criticism that we made for Zerzon as well. I just think we've had enough of society. I don't mean that in a you should keep technologists way. I mean what we should do is root for the meteor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 You need a meteor, just wait. It was about to say. I don't wanna wait say I don't know. I'm I don't want to wait for this pretty earth to be over. I don't want to wait to be hit by a folder. I don't know. I'm pretty broad society.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You know, society is pretty good because it gives you things like toilet paper. No, I think this is like bugs bathing streams, wipe with leaves, yes. There's a reason critiques happen to, which is society and its enormously, it provides you with lots of torches, right? But it also provides you lots of treats.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yes, I do like treats. The treats keep coming, but also the horrors. Yeah. I for one would like to, you know, transform that society in a more equisible way in a quite an abrupt way. But I don't want to end the society. That's my feeling. Yeah. What are you going to do? No, you know, they don't have anyone. Yeah, don't you know, I'm anyone because that doesn't that didn't work. Honestly, honestly, I got one more critique for Ted Kaczynski.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You could have picked your targets a lot better, my guy. This is true, yeah. You, you, there were, there were many better symbolic targets than the ones you went after. He just, he just unibomed like three guys. This guy is right. Like, you could, there are, oh, okay. Uh, you know what, let's move on. I'm sure the people that move on, you know what it was?
Starting point is 00:52:30 He like, he like misread one thing and he was like, the people making color printers have names and addresses. Which is true. If you've ever tried to set up a color printer. Yeah, that's not what he was yelling about. He was just like, oh, this is an awful form of technical-adjol innovation that's horrifying. And it's like, yeah, man, I do hate HP drivers,
Starting point is 00:52:52 but like, every tech person keeps two pieces of technology in the house. A printer and a unibum to blow up that printer for never makes any noise. I every time I look at my printer, I'm just like, oh, you son of a whore. Like, I am just, I would be more impressed if he were a multi bomber, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:11 he could like, you know, have multiple bombs going off at once. You know, like, you know, like, you know, like, multi ball on the pinball table, you do that for you. You have 11 million on the monster's pinball machine the other day. Woo.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Yeah, I have a lot of people. There's a lot of machine. Huh? Where is that pinball? It's a model. I'll take you to it. Oh, OK. Yeah, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:53:31 You'll like it. It's a very dark table, though. I didn't love that so much. I'm a sucker for a brightly lit table. Got some good effects. But it's like, yes, it's very dark. I would prefer something a little brighter, but Yeah, hey speaking of the PO box if you want to mail us a functional pin bomb machine
Starting point is 00:53:53 Yeah, rather that than a unibomb, please. Yeah, please don't send us a unibomb Yeah, please don't okay multi-bomb or unibomb us multi- bomb unibom. Any kind of bomb. Yeah, we don't like bomb. It's what we do. We do, but not in that way. In other news. The iron chic died. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, this, this, this one's kind of sucks. Yeah. Famous. WWE heel. Yeah, famous WWE heel. Hater of Hulk Hogan to the. Yes, yes, strong Hulk Hogan Hater.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Providing Iranian representation. He's Iranian, right? What's he ever? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I thought this was the thing. I thought this was like New Frontiers and American racism. I assume this he was like just a white guy. And was like all right. He was he was a radiant. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Only Iranian champion in WWE history having won the WWE F World Heavyweight Championship in 1983. But the the only reason I know about the Iron Shake right is that he sort of came back after he retired with a Twitter account that did numbers regularly. It was just like his like his nephews or something. Or his managers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Just he just yelled at people and it was good. I kind of yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the Twitter presence thing is always weird to me like you remember William Shatner's tweets where it was like this is clearly not like a 900 year old William Shatner tweeting. Yeah, this is sort of a ratatouille puppeteering situation. Keep it keep it him sort of in the cultural zeitgeist, right? Yeah, yeah, I mean, this is the thing like obviously we all have that service
Starting point is 00:55:48 And you know, I haven't written a tweet myself since about 2011. Oh, yeah, that's true. I have my secretary do that Your secretary doesn't have thumbs that he hates you Yeah, I just said milkshake right all the tweets Send more food. Kill human and centoi. I have never been fed. Yes. Not even one time.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I mean, I guess it's, I guess the thing about the, the iron shake, right, is that it's weirdly racist, but also reclaiming because the persona is Arab, right? I think which most Iranians are not. And on looking, I discovered that his original persona was But on the other hand, he's like, to make a wrestling heal that is flatly a racial stereotype have enough depth and staying power that, you know, people are still reading the tweets fucking 40 years later, that requires something going on, right? Mostly kicking the absolute shit out of Hulk Hogan, which, of course, we support. Objectively good, yes. Yeah. Also, you teamed up with a guy who wants to sang the Soviet national anthem on stage.
Starting point is 00:57:26 So Nikolay Volkov. So yeah, I always enjoy sort of like access of evil wrestling heel. I think it says a lot about America's psychology, you know, um, which is not good. Yeah, it's, uh, it's, uh, you know, it's wrestling. It's supposed to be at least a little bit goofy. Um, that's true, it is very goofy. It is very goofy. All right, who's next on the M. Morae Am segment? Sylvio Burlaskoni died.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Yes. Oh, yes. RIP, big fat fuck. Oh, one last drop of his election song that Noah sent me years ago. Oh. Oh. Oh. He alone could fix it. He was like, it sounds like Trump. Sounds like youth choir. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:24 That sounded like the Hitler youth shit. I didn't like Trump. Sounds like youth choir. Yeah. That sounded like the Hitler youth shit. I didn't like that. So Sylvia Burlusconi, now he's dead. I think I can confidently say big participant in operation, gladio, a member of the propaganda duet, free Mason lodge, uh, wild wildly corrupt, the funnling money between NATO and the mafia and who knows who the fuck else,
Starting point is 00:58:52 quite probably Bernardo Provencino's man in Rome, a symbol of the sort of like the corruption at the heart of Italian politics and Italian elites. BFFs with Gaddafi, constant sex scandal, have probably a pedophile as well. We can just fucking throw that one out there. And generally, a piece of shit, right? It's good that he's dead every Italian that I know is happy that it happened. I'm gonna miss him. This is the thing, though, right? Because this is where I'm gonna talk about Trump. And Boris Johnson, to an extent, where it's the kind of thing where the corruption, he pioneered this thing
Starting point is 00:59:39 after, I guess, Huey Long. The corruption is so out there and so open that it wraps back around. Like people get like a sort of like a stack overflow. Yeah. People are like, no, this is good again. This guy's funny. Yeah. This guy's a funny guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:55 He's based. He's funny. And he did have some good lines. I mean, he said that like his version of inclusivity was saying that everybody has at least a 25% homosexual part, but mine is a lesbian. This is a good line. It's bizarre, constant plastic surgery and hair transplant to try and keep himself looking young, which never worked and only made him look weirder. He once got hit in the head with a thrown model of Melania Cathedral,
Starting point is 01:00:31 with the end of the broke tour of his teeth. Just tremendously weird dude who sort of like forest gumped his way through 20th century European politics, and is now at long lost dead. Rest in peace. I think he would be better than the current weird fascists who run Italy. Are you going to take the fascists with a sense of humor or the humorless fascist, which seems to be what we have now? Well, that's sort of like that. They are a consequence of like burlaskoniism is the thing.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And yeah, it existed before him. And like it was him who sort of like, gasp-holstered like, you know, his various parties, culminating in Fort Italia and, you know, League of Nord as well, like, into this position of, sort of like, the far right that we see now. But at the same time, yeah, he was sort of like, he was institutional, right? Which means he was the guy who did deals with the mob and to fucking cut out the left and to like, you know, fuck over the unions and stuff. And now that he's gone, you get the sort of
Starting point is 01:01:54 artless version of the same, which is, you know, crying about how Jim Carrey replied to you on Twitter with a picture of your dad upside down or whatever the fuck. Real grim. Real grim. Yeah. And it's really one thing I think is funny though is that the locus of a big part of his corruption with Provencana, this mob boss was in building this sort of satellite town of Milan where he built his TV empire, which was called Milan to just just yeah, yeah, Milan do it. Yeah, which I really like as a sort of active hubris is Sylvia
Starting point is 01:02:34 Burlusconi's cooler Milan. I'm now trying to search for this on Google maps. I can't find it. I mean, Milan too. Milan too. I mean, Google has broken that was the other thing. Yeah, this is true. Also, so is part of my keyboard. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Milan or do a residential center in the Italian town of Sagrata, built a new town by Sylvia Bailoscone's company, Adelwell. It's very walkable.
Starting point is 01:03:04 He did mixed use walkable urbanism. So, critical support to Sylvia Bailasconi. This type of walkable urbanism is illegal. And it's illegal because of massive corruption. Yeah, it's all of the contra. Do this. This type of massive, I see, it's a big, walkable of walkable corruption is illegal.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Why do you have a local businesses? It looks nice, I like it. It's all the concrete is going through a guy called Uncle Bino. But aside from that, it's all good. That's all good. That's nice. Sounds amazing. Yeah. Uh, who else died?
Starting point is 01:03:52 Trump. He's dead now. I did do the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Trump went from Queens.
Starting point is 01:03:58 What is this picture? Is this real? Yeah. Who is this guy? What is this guy? Oh, I was going to put in one of the AI-generated pictures where Trump was going like swarmed by cops like, you know, agents and nature or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no, this is a real picture. I don't remember where
Starting point is 01:04:14 it's from, but this one's real. And yeah, the important thing is that Donnie from Queens has died badly. He's gone out like Stan Chara, he is now dead. He's been killed, yeah. You know, this is... No, so basically they unsealed the indictment because he was indicted in Florida by this special master. Yes. And it turns out that what Donnie from Queens has been doing is keeping a bunch of highly, highly classified documents. Some of them in the indictment, the classifications are themselves redacted,
Starting point is 01:04:57 which I really like. That's real bad. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, how secret is it? I also cannot tell you. And he was keeping those in a bathtub. Yes. And a bathroom. And so as I understand it, the president can declassify shit anytime he wants. But once he stops being president, you can't do that anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Correct. But... Well, he should have declassified it right before he left office. There are like, there are like, there was a conservative theory going around that he had meant to, and that was good enough. Or by taking it, that was clearly a declassification, or that is not how that process works.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah, no. It did lead to him posting a photo of all of these file boxes. As he described it, securely stored on sidewalk outside White House, I did an ocular path down in the situation. Yeah, I right now, I'm trying to get rid of some chairs by securely storing them on the sidewalk outside my building. Yeah. With free chair written on them. So the other thing is they got them in 4K because they got them on tape saying, yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:15 they got them saying to some people, like audibly rustling document, like rustling paper. Hey, look at these cool documents. I have their classified the military maps. Kid Rock or something to show maps of North Korea. The kid rock. What are you doing? Man, not like, come on.
Starting point is 01:06:34 At least, at least give, what's his name? The one I hate. Fuckin' what's his name? The Ted Nuget. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. So he was showing people these these classified files. Can't do that.
Starting point is 01:06:54 And was going, yeah, Mark Milley was saying that I wanted to declare war in Iran, but I actually didn't. And he made these for me. So actually he's a piece of shit, but I can't tell anyone because they're classified. So just starting beef with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at your shitty club slash house in Florida with a document you took out of a bathtub, which is enough to get you put in head Kazinsky's old apartment, right? Like, and he said, like explicitly, I could have declassified this when I was
Starting point is 01:07:32 president, probably should have done that, but so now you can't look at it and then he shows it to a guy. Yeah, I would also do that shit though. I mean, this is the thing. I feel like they should cut the president some slack here just for, you know, being a human being. Hey, look at these cool classified documents I have. Yeah, I do that shit. He did. He did my favorite piece of like, you know, I could start from 37 count, 31 counts or however
Starting point is 01:08:00 many under the, like two for free. Yeah. Yeah. We'll take two off the top. Donnie. But my favorite thing was his idea of op-sac was showing a guy a classified document and then saying, don't come any closer. Like, say this many steps away from me because that's classified.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Incredible. Incredible. I love it. Which is not classified if you're within like COVID, social distancing. It's got like a weird route that you know. I really like it. And the thing is, right? I know, I know there are people listening to this podcast who have worked with classified information and who know what it's like and who know that you have to sign the thing and go through the thing and then go through the other thing and go through the like locking thing with the other thing to get into the fucking special room.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah, fellas. Thank you. We have to believe your phone outside in order to look at the thing and what you can't usually do in those situations is call someone over from inside and say can you just hold it up to the window and I'll stay like five steps away from it? So he might genuinely go to prison, which is going to be so fucking funny because he's going to win the nomination again. From prison, he's going to have the phone into the debates. He's going to be there. You know, they're going to have a video feed of him in prison.
Starting point is 01:09:30 He's going to be like, you know, he's going to be in a prison cafeteria from a shitty jail phone. Like they have to get like on CNN or whatever. The fucking robot voice that says you are receiving a call from federal prison, number, number, number, Donald J Trump. Like, that's going to be me. Me, me, Paul Robby wouldn't, he wouldn't let the second in here. I just, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, got, he's flanked on one side, he's got an area and brotherhood guy. On the other side, he's got a, you know, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a? Like just a little bit because the thing is right, I want him to do the Eugene
Starting point is 01:10:26 Debs thing of running from prison. I want him to lose, but I also accept that it's funnier if he wins and is then the jail president because there's a couple of things that you would have to do, right? First of all, he's still got Secret Service protection the whole time, which leads me to imagine like the whole detail just like weed out with him, just like, try, like you never see that video of all six flyers in the penalty box. Yeah, what it is is that all wearing, like the shirts and ties, earpieces and sunglasses,
Starting point is 01:10:57 but like orange jumpsuits over that. For that, yeah. Yeah, there's like a secret service guy like lifting weights and shit. That's Trump gets a bunch of prison tattoos So the other thing the other thing is That if he wins that gonna have to either like build him his own prison like Pablo Escobar,
Starting point is 01:11:25 where he can be the president of jail, or they're going to have to put some bars over the White House windows and redesign it as like federal correctional institution. The White House. And I really think they should do that. I want to be just gets he gets really jacked in prison. Yeah, fucking like, you know, Rishi Suneako, whoever comes to the US state visit and they can't see him because Trump's like thrown a new for loafers in the They got to be with vice president whoever the fuck it is at this point
Starting point is 01:12:13 Trump is out of his My vice vice president, Karl. No one knows his last name. Got a mononimeral. Yeah. What do you get? The vice president. It's a mod of them. The other thing is I think I think Melania is getting in dice as well.
Starting point is 01:12:42 And she's going to flip on him like immediately. That's going to set records like the most co-operating awareness has happened. You got that $20,000 bonus for most of these to testify to Congress, but we need new things. Still got it though. Yeah. Yeah. You think I'll get McDonald's for him in prison. I don't know. The man deserves the only doesn't deserve shit, but he does deserve his treat. The commissary folks, it's it's garbage.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I don't like it. I don't know where am I supposed to get my diet coke spooks. Can you believe how the treating Donald or near? Setting a record for the like Trump all caps. The highest commissary budget for like any federal prisoners since he's gonna be he's gonna be incredibly popular in jail. Just because he's going to be able to get so much like nicer things for everyone. You know, he's gonna go in there. He's gonna demand. They replace the commissary with McDonald's and they're gonna do it for him. He's gonna go in there. He's gonna demand like,
Starting point is 01:13:54 we need a, I don't know. We need diet coax. Everyone's gonna get diet coax. It's gonna be fantastic. For the thing is to like all the gods are gonna be like, yes, Mr. Trump, it's an honor, sir. Like it's incredibly crying when they arrested him. Yes, you saw how they were to arrest him. And it's like, this is torture for both of you. I enjoy that a great deal. I can slurt that up like a slasher. Yeah. I'm stoked. I'm stoked for Donald Trump to be president from prison. It's going to be incredible. It's going to be some of the funniest, some of the funniest shit that's ever happened.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah, can you calm pardon yourself? You can't do it. Like, God damn, he's not going to try. This is this is legitimately the funniest thing, right? Is the only thing that can keep him out of pound me in the ass federal prison is Ron DeSantis getting elected president. He is the only person who can stop Ron DeSantis from getting elected president and he's gonna do it.
Starting point is 01:14:59 This is the funniest ed worst time one. I wanna be very clear on that. Oh, my God. That's a fun. Oh, my God. I'm excited. I am this is incredible. Yeah, I don't know where to go from there. Next news.
Starting point is 01:15:24 I am still interested in know who this fiddler on the roof guy is here. Yeah, if you know who Tevye there is, please let us know. Oh, don't be into some other guy. He looks like the guy. I know he does. He looks like the guy. Oh, is this Jerry Falwell junior? Oh Christ is this fall about junior? I don't like that. Why is Trump wearing what appears to be like a Canadian maple leaf pen?
Starting point is 01:15:54 Maybe not. It's like sort of pay tribute to the humble forest fire start as if the where did you get this photo? I don't know Google Maybe it is fucking AI. I don't know Donald Trump. You just search Trump. I got to track this down now I think I search Trump arrested you Use reverse image search I could and I'm too late and it came up with all the like fucking like news results And this was one of the fucking images they were using to illustrate the news results was this. Oh, man. All right, I'm just gonna, all right, you two carry on.
Starting point is 01:16:32 I'll be back in a second. Okay. Leave it. I just need this photo. Okay. Okay. Hi, it's Justin. So this is a commercial for the podcast that you're already listening to.
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Starting point is 01:17:59 Yeah, a few days ago. I hear there are truth is about this, right? Because the official narrative, the US government would have you believe that someone popped a tanker truck that was on fire. It's a pretty evil stuff. And the Twitter accounts responsible for it all blocked me when I called them out on it. But someone is there was a tanker truck on fire underneath an overpass on the I-95 Delaware
Starting point is 01:18:29 Expressway. It was on fire for a while. One of the overpasses collapsed. The other one is sagging enough that it will have to be replaced. This is a brand new stretch of interstate by the way. But yeah, this is, you know, it shut down I-95 and lots of people are saying, oh my God, this is, it's either some kind of conspiracy, you know, because, oh my God. 15 minutes this is, you know, yeah, it's a 15-minute city. You know, we're gonna, we're gonna destroy a freeway infrastructure. The thing is, if you are like,
Starting point is 01:19:05 I wanna take out some critical highway infrastructure, this is not the place to do it. Because there are lists of the places to do that, appearing on your screen now. Yes. I would say if you wanted to take out 95, you'd probably do that somewhere in Maryland. Yeah, you'd take, right?
Starting point is 01:19:22 Yeah. Yeah. So, but the thing here is there's like three parallel interstates, you know, because you got, you got 95, then you got 295, and you have the Jersey turnpike, and you have the Roosevelt Boulevard. You know, so this is not- It's not interesting, but it acts like it. Yeah, it acts like it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:40 But so this is, this is, lots and lots of parallel routes around this thing, but people have been panicking because, oh god 95 is down. It's going to destroy the nation's economy or it's going to destroy commutes into Philly. I don't believe it has done either of those things. Yeah, but on the other hand, you know, no one seen a big crushed like squished flat tanker truck under this. So that's true. Yes. It was a controlled destination. Yeah, because there's no way that a 70 foot tractor trailer could fit underneath a 94 foot wide interstate overpass. People are genuinely like true thing about this, if I can make that a word. Yeah. Also right. It's right next to four seasons total landscaping too.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Oh shit. It was Giuliani. Yeah. Giuliani is. Giuliani is escaping from a burning tank of truck in the middle of the night. There is video, by the way, I've seen video people like driving over this, this overpass while it's burning. Well, it's on fire and there's like visible.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Wind overstepping the road. Yeah. What I genuinely feel sometimes as if the Northeastern United States is one big conspiracy to get the air quality as low as possible. Like sort of min-maxing for lungs. Like genuinely, I don't understand it. But yeah, so I'm gonna get the shot, you know. Critical support to the urbanist cell responsible for this act of deep green sabotage.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Yeah, Alan Fisher went out there with sort of a cadre of radical urbanists took the thing out. Yeah. Yeah. This type of fucking degrowth is actually illegal in most places. All right. So I think this is Mark Wayne Mullin, who is a senator from Oklahoma. And there's a video of him getting his ass cooked by the AFL CIO. Oh. All right. That took a long time.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Sorry about it. Hi, I'm glad. I understand the drive to go and do some research into these things. I get it completely. So yeah, we don't have I-95 at the moment. And- Don't need it, adds waste. Doesn't really seem to have affected anything.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Yeah, that's the people on the- That's the people on the- People are shitting their pants, but yeah. Septa could have used it- I think if I have to use it- Septa's favorite stuff. Yeah. Well, yeah, there's a lot of,
Starting point is 01:22:20 Krinn and I noticed that a lot of, a lot of few people were on the roads. I do think, in respect of not having to go back to the office, hopefully this will slow companies down it probably won't, from making people go back to the office for real fucking reason. I mean, one thing I will say is that like if we, we know about injuice demand, right, we know that if you build a new lane, more people drive on it to fill it, stands to reason, the logical carl-houry, you demolish those lanes, people don't drive on them.
Starting point is 01:22:48 That is reduced to demand actually. Yeah. But that is genuine things. Instead of by accident. By accident, yeah. I mean, you know, it's ridiculous that mainline 95 goes through filly in the first place. It is. You know, that's a bad old thing. It's ridiculous that mainline 95 goes through Philly in the first place. It is. You know, that whole thing shall go, man.
Starting point is 01:23:08 It should just be the turnpike. They should just put everyone on the turnpike instead of going straight through center city. You know, and then the, I guess the other thing here is, you know, Septa may be increasing services. I'm not sure how they're going to do that. I know that they've, they've beefed up service on the trend line. The compensate. And the way they did that was to shut down the Kenwood line entirely. And then this has gotten discussions about the Roosevelt Boulevard subway going a little more intensely, which is a good thing.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Yeah. This has gotten discussions about the Roosevelt Boulevard subway going a little more intensely, which is a good thing. Yeah. They are looking at that as an alternative. That's good news. Yeah. Build some public transport. You build some public transportation.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yeah. I mean, I'm excited to see. I hope they do it. I hope they do a Roosevelt Boulevard subway, but also be interesting to see how they'll fuck it up. I know. do a Roosevelt Boulevard subway, but also be interesting to see how they'll fuck it up. Which day will let's be very clear on that. Yeah. RIP to I 95. Yeah, I think about one more piece of news, maybe. Yes. And this is going to take several months to fix probably. That's that's going to be. Yeah, at a minimum. Everything will go back to being terrible afterwards. Don't worry. You're regularly scheduled service of everything being terrible.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Yeah, you'll be able to drive your car into center city again and then spend 45 minutes searching for parking. Don't worry. You will have a- And then they pay less wage tax than we do. We do. Well, it's swiftly on. It happens. It finally happened. This one's just for me pretty much. So it's Skatpole time. Look at her face. So Scotland has some quite strict contempt of court laws. I'm somewhat limited in what I can say unlike you two. But essentially for a good few months now, Police Scotland have been doing this investigation into how the Scottish National
Starting point is 01:25:30 Party, which is our sort of like centre-left pro-escovish independence party, which has been the party of Scottish politics for the last 15 years, like literally achieved a majority multiple times in a parliament that was specifically designed not to do that. What they did was they raised, they crowdfunded, £660,000 from their members, from the general public, for a new referendum campaign, right? And then what happened to that money is now the subject of a police investigation.
Starting point is 01:26:14 The police have seized, they've been in the SMP headquaters with little like drain cameras. They've seized a most a home, like an RV, like a luxury camper van, which frankly does not look that luxury. Maybe we can get a picture of it up on screen. It's like a hundred thousand pounds RV and looks like shit, to be honest. You showed me a picture of it and I was like, that's not a cool RV. It wasn't very good. It's not like, I think if you spend a hundred thousand pounds on an RV, you should get the
Starting point is 01:26:45 thing where it unfolds on the side to double the width and you get a couple of bikes out of the side. You should get a Lego play set, fucking RV for a hundred thousand pounds. If nothing else, that's the real crime. They got ripped off buying that RV. I think the idea with the RV was that they were going to use it as like a campaign bus, which it wouldn't even have worked very well as because it's like sleeps too. And it's like it's big, but it's not like an actual bus either. It's just like a big van. chat. But so yeah, so what actually happened is that they arrested the treasurer of the SMP. They arrested the former secretary of the SMP and now they've arrested the former
Starting point is 01:27:38 secretary's wife, the former first minister, I guess president, if you like, of Scotland for like a decade, Nicholas Sturgeon, seen here. And this is fucking, this is like seismic, you know, like this is not really what's supposed to happen because she was this huge, huge influence of Scottish politics. And I can sort of describe her vibe as being like, we're gonna do moderate Nordic style social democracy, I guess. Which does
Starting point is 01:28:10 not really pair with everybody gets arrested, you know? Like that's supposed to happen in the Scandi like cop drums that's not supposed to happen in the scandy government. And, you know, so everybody, they've released everybody who they arrested without charge, like while they investigate further. And you can sort of like ascribe political motivations to that if you want, but in the meantime, all this really means is that like, in political terms, another route out has been closed. You know, like, if you wanted a government in any part of the UK that was like, gonna maybe take some interest in making your life better, you could have had a co-opinist kind of quasi-socialism.
Starting point is 01:28:56 That was rapidly shut down. You could have had Scottish nationalism. That was somewhat more slowly shut down. If the Greens ever do anything that threatening, I'm sure they will be too. And now you're here forever. You know, you're just locked in and everything's going to be, you know, they're going to hand all of those those seats over the next election to the Scottish Labour Party who are dog shit always embarrassing or embarrassing under Corbyn and Richard Leonard. And yeah, no, there is no better politics out there. It's just this forever.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Hey, northerney independence party though. Well, uh, listen, I'm sure if they ever like got that electrically interesting, they would be going through their accounts for the fine tooth cone. I, I, the thing is, I don't sympathize with the S&P in general. I generally feel a lot of spite towards them,
Starting point is 01:29:52 both because, you know, I, I, I sort of have a philosophical disagree with the Scottish independence because I, you know, I hate the way they kick the can down the road on trans rights long enough for it to become a culture war issue. And also because they're not as progressive as they think they are. Like a party where 40% of the membership votes for a leader who wants to like make same-sex marriage illegal is not a like meaningfully progressive party in law. Correct. This is true. But even so to see them collapse this abruptly, I was kind of surprising. Yeah. It's genuinely, it's very surprising.
Starting point is 01:30:28 And I don't really know what to do with it other than to look at it and go, oh, damn, that's crazy. Which, thankfully, is all I can say about it because of the contempt, of course, I love. Yeah, you'll be arrested. You can't do anything for them. These days, if you say you're Scottish, you're arrested and thrown in jail.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Instantly, yes. Yes, yeah. And I guess what's really funny is, we have now come up on two consecutive former first ministers getting arrested. I love Scarlett. Yeah, yeah, this is not the kind of government we wanted to be having, you know. Put something in a haggis.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Listen, if if homes are use of decides that he's going to start building Glasgow to outside of town. Glasgow to yes. That's in there just to be a number of. Oh, you'll start some fights with that one. I think Glasgow too might be like, cum-ben-aul'd or like East Kilbride maybe. Which may not be like the weird, that weird note new town that has like
Starting point is 01:31:34 the big mall in the middle. Yeah, which is that they're now demolishing the town center so they're just not going to have any public services now. Is incredible because it's ugly or something, right? Because it's ugly. And it is ugly and it is miserable, but it's also where all the stuff is.
Starting point is 01:31:51 And the expectation now that company or it is gentrifying is you buy an expensive new build, and then you just fucking drive out of town to like a big box store and you get your shit there. You don't need a post office in the middle of town. And you don't need anything that you can't like drive into Glasgow for. So get fucked. Which again, it sort of feels like Scottish politics as a whole.
Starting point is 01:32:17 That's where we are. I think it's a little embarrassing that I had to do a Scottish politics update on the engineering disaster's podcast before I got to do one on the UK politics podcast. But you know, that's that's the way that UK media crumbles sometimes. Exactly. Man, how's this here look weird? That's really small windows. Oh, concrete blocks. Cabernet. Yeah. Yeah. Now imagine that like 27 degree weather. Oh, man. God, you will understand why, despite like wearing shorts, I have a leather chair. I am stuck to this fucking chair.
Starting point is 01:32:49 If I ever try to move, it's going to take like three layers of skin off with it. Anyway, that's me. That's my Scottish politics update. That's all I wanted to say about that. So thank you. That's the skypole update. Then, well, that was the God damn news.
Starting point is 01:33:09 The safety third directly in the safety third. Shake hands with danger. Incredible. Hello, Justin. Go Alice, Yellium, welcome, possible guest, and thank you, Devon. I like, I like to go Alice, you know, what's up, Alice Nation? Yes. I am writing you in regards to your most recent episode on the crazy eights incident. I feel that your discussion about portable derails would be rather remiss without at least one story about the first step to prevent unwanted rail car movement, the portable wheelchock. I'm here to tell you that portable wheelchocks do not work. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:33:53 All right, all right. I'm not sure. All right, all right. The first flight of defense is no line at all. Once upon a time, in a wild reaches of 2014, I was working on a rail grinder for the summer, which may or may not be extremely similar to that scene in the attached picture.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Those were near the Bellosay, I love to see it. Just for the sake of those who don't know, a rail grinder has one job only to grind rails. What is it, why are we grinding rails? You're grind rails in order to maintain them to a constant profile so that trains can run on them better. Oh, okay. Yes, sort of, it fixes some of the wear and tear. Now, dispatch would claim otherwise
Starting point is 01:34:37 and say our only job is to obstruct traffic. Oh, okay. Yes, we don't really need rails to run trains. Exactly. Right? The grinder, which is properly called the machine and not a train, is about 600 feet long, weighs 1000 tons, comprises of a cabin power car, a water car, four grind cars, a slug water car, another water car, a power car, and a cab and crew car. Big honking machine. Yes, and it's quite frankly the biggest pain in the ass for any sane person to maintain.
Starting point is 01:35:14 The only way to make it worse would be to remove the air conditioning. Oh no. I was working on the machine just for the summer and one particular day the ops crew stored the machine into place that may or may not be laid out very much like quinoa west Virginia. Yeah, don't get too close to this map five steps away. As a side note, driving in west Virginia is fucking suicidal. It's not that bad. West Virginia is fucking suicidal. It's not that bad. The machine was placed on the South leg of the Y,
Starting point is 01:35:48 which happens to be on a roughly 3% grade. So down here, ish. The air breaks were applied and breaks were tied down on all cars, portable D rail and wheelchock applied, blue flag safety installed blue blue safety flag So so you have a you have a you have sort of a you have a blue flag that you attach to the train and You cannot move that equipment until the person who put the flag on takes the flag off. Oh, you look out. I got a track. Yes. Yes So the main is crew of which I was part of ran a fire hose down to
Starting point is 01:36:29 the creek next to the track and began pumping water into the water cars. Now this is an all-night task. No water means no grinding. Why do we need water? Grinding rails makes lots of sparks, which can then send the countryside a blaze. Side note. This is called a smoker. A smoker might be several acres and size, but it's not a fire. A term which is reserved for flames aboard the machine itself, a scenario which is automatically escalated to company president. So, you know, they have a fireing car on the back of the rail grinding train. It's the big
Starting point is 01:37:10 thing. They spray the water. One time I was riding my bike. Yeah, I got sprayed by the rail grinding train on the bridge over MLK Boulevard. Did you deserve it? Well, I was taking a picture of the rail grinding train. Maybe they didn't like it. Yeah, you kind of like found like wildlife photography, you know? Yeah, exactly. It's the studio praying.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Yeah, I can say, I got, you know, you get a, you get sprayed with the must got you know you get uh get sprayed with the must you know or the must yeah yeah it hasn't made it yet recall I mentioned the machine weighs 1,000 tons and that's fully loaded with water, fuel, grindstone, spare parts and a happy crew each of the water cars all right yeah an unhappy crew weighs more yeah each of the water cars, yeah, an unhappy crew weighs more. Yeah, each of the water cars holds 25,000 gallons. Multiply that by three and you get 300 tons of water on the machine.
Starting point is 01:38:13 And it takes a while to pump that much water. At the end of the shift, we were working 7 to 12. It's time to do a break check, which involves having one person on the ground, or is it seven to 12 hours, I'm not sure, okay. Anyway, it's time to do the break check, which involves having one person on the ground checking the break contact and piston travel, and another up top, cranking on the hand breaks.
Starting point is 01:38:41 It has been a long time since, and I've forgotten the procedure for testing the breaks, but we started on the rear of the machine and worked our way forward. On the walk back, one of the steps we have to do is release each hand brake once to ensure the mechanism works. We were at the second water car, which is not the slug water car. I'm assuming the slug water car is a water car that has traction motors on it. So it applies some, you know, track the force. I don't know that though. Here at the back of the machine, we release the hand brake and the car starts pushing the wheelchock. My coworker up top starts cranking on a hand brake, but it takes several
Starting point is 01:39:21 motions to engage the brake at all. So the water car with its 100 tons of water pulls against the power car and the crew car with their brakes sent, pushes against the slug car, four grind cars, another water car and cab car with the brakes sent continues to roll downhill against the wheelchock. The wheelchock then decided to shatter like the cast steel piece of shit it was.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Oh no. to shatter like the cast steel piece of shit it was. Oh, no. The earned water car to continue to on down the line for about three more feet before the handbrake took hold. Take note, these cars are not coupled together. They were draw bar together. So there's next to no draft gear to take up the slack. So if they haven't like, you know, engaged the handbrake that much, it's just gone.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Then, mm-hmm. much, it's just gone then Yes, it's an off on its merry way. Yes What did they fucking 3d print these why? Well the chalk was of a cast portable locking design I couldn't find it on the internet So here is a McMaster car page These are from an anarchist collective. Yeah. Needless to say, I was quite spooked. Recall that this is a grinder as a pain in the
Starting point is 01:40:34 ass to maintain and requires a significant amount of crawling around other than the machine around the wheel and the rail and wheel sets and getting right up close and with active hydraulics. All that was required for the machine to move a lethal distance at anyone been under the machine was released of only a single break, and the one device intended to directly protect against that had rapidly disassembled along lines that were not part of the fabrication process. That's real bad. In short, a wheelchock designed to prevent the movement of at least one rail car failed to prevent the movement of at least one rail car when aided by the collective resistance
Starting point is 01:41:15 of nine additional brake sets on rail cars. That's like a 19th century level of like steel manufacturing quality. Like if it just fucking shatters it's bad right? It's just like instantly fails. What do you? Can you do anything about that? Can you like tell them to not buy? Just you have, you had one job. Literally, literally. And the job was just sit there. Do not be inert, be inert in one location. There's a specification for these. They don't. Nope. Just don't work. Okay. Sometimes you can just buy things and they don't work.
Starting point is 01:42:01 It's a critter. Sometimes you can just buy things and they don't work. Yeah, we got the one we've done. We've done some calm. I got it off of Ali Baba. This is made of tin. It's just potmastel. It's actually a plastic can casting with some shiny paint on it. To this day, despite volunteering with a railroad museum that may or may not be host to a coal-powered movie star, I have never been as filthy as I was working on that grinder.
Starting point is 01:42:34 I could entertain you with other stories about the mechanisms of persons involved, but those can keep for another time. Thank you for technological enlightenment, general improvement in my engineering judgment. Stata trouble from name withheld. Thank you name withheld. Yes, Stata trouble yourself, Jesus. Yes, I noticed something missing from the crazy eighths episode. Liam didn't have any actionable threats that needed censoring.
Starting point is 01:43:00 It felt odd in that it needed mentioning. I'll come to the road, Liam. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not only will I **** you up. What I'll do is I'll wave you around like a flag so that your neighbors see what's happened to you. And I will defend your mind now stolen property with halberds.
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