Well There‘s Your Problem - Episode 138: The Broughton Bridge Collapse

Episode Date: July 30, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Excellent. Alright, I got Korean food in the hopes that it would make me less tired, but it turns out what I am is just as tired for the Korean food. I mean, there are worse things to be full of entirely. Oh, no, it's great, right? But it's like, I'm tired, but also now I have the experience of having just eaten spicy food. And it didn't wake me up at all. Oh, yeah. You need like a caffeinated spicy food. I mean, if they made like a caffeinated food, but I would be on that 100%.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Oh, hell yeah. This is what the thing, the people don't want energy drinks or energy, I do energy vapes or whatever the fuck the kids are doing these days together. People are not out energy injections. They want the energy Korean food. That's what I would think. Which I guess a new page of Google, give us money so we can open an energy Korean restaurant.
Starting point is 00:00:59 This is going to be our like a deal barista arc as we get. We sort of like really get into the food business and what we sell as this product that only I like I'm gonna open a bar at one point that only serves drinks. I like so I hear you. Uh-huh sure. I'll do it I'm looking forward to that episode of bar rescue the guy from bar rescue is gonna show off and be like You know you gotta do the thing that I always do. You got to turn this into the same bar. Um, and I never watch bar rescue, but that does sound funny. If it's just HTTP for bars, yeah, it is. That there's this like sort of wide, like I sort of Italian guy who,
Starting point is 00:01:39 who shows up and his like, here's your problem. Your bar has individuality in a bad way. And we're going to fix that by making it not have individuality anymore. And it's just going to be like the bar. It's going to turn into a weather spoons. A genuine landing. American weather spoons. Yeah. So Ruby. So the rest like, um, Ross is a secret shame is that he loves Ruby Tuesdays. Ross is a secret shame is that he loves Ruby Tuesdays. I think we have to have this here. Of the chain family restaurants with bars, I think Ruby Tuesdays is the best one. It's much better than Applebee's.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Anything's much better than I think it's better than Fridays. I think so. We don't have Applebee's. We do have Fridays and we do, I think, don't quote me on this, have Ruby Tuesdays as well. Do you have chilies? No. Oh, that's not made of that.
Starting point is 00:02:28 It's surprisingly declarative as me wasn't. I was like, no, no, no. Do you have chilies? A bit of American wine. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Can you guys hear my washer going? No. Okay, well, then I'm going to leave my door wide ass open. Okay. Um, hello, and welcome to Weller's Your Problem.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It's a podcast about engineering disasters and, uh, chain family restaurants with slides. I'm Justin Rosnack. I'm the first news talking right now. My friends are he and him. restaurants with slides. I'm Justin Rosnack. I'm the first news talking right now. My pronouns are he and him, okay, go. I'm Alex Kultorkeli. I'm the person who's talking now on my pronouns is she and her, Ye Liam.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Ye Liam, hi, I'm Liam Anderson. My pronouns are he and I. Nice, I have anything else. No, I didn't. And unless you're gonna change your pronouns, I'm thinking about generally name. I'm like slow rolling that, but like that's gonna happen at some point. You're gonna, you're gonna change your pronouns. I'm thinking about generally name. I'm like slow rolling that but like that's gonna happen at some point. You're gonna you're gonna you're finally going
Starting point is 00:03:28 all in on Claire. Why don't you know you can her display name. Roz, I'm soft launching this but I was like I started thinking about this because I was like I've been on the phone to people all day and no matter when like I spell my name to them, no matter whether they're holding a copy of my ID, everyone hears my voice and they do not say Alice, they say Alex. And I'm like, okay, you know what? I chose Alice as a name because it was like,
Starting point is 00:04:00 easily legibly womanly, you see this as people, right? And now I don't care about that. And it doesn't work on its own terms. And as I'm spending a lot of my time spelling my name to people, I'm like, man, this international phonetic alphabet, it's got some interesting names in it. It's got some energy. Like you could be like a Sierra or something. I'm like, man, what about November? That's kind of cool. What if I just do that and I never have to explain it to anybody because it's weird and an affectation. So that's the plan maybe in future. Do you think Alice Cooper had the same problem? Yeah, I think so. I mean, super live. He rules.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Hmm. The most trusted and why I was strongly in favor of Alice Cooper. Yeah, this is a pro Alice Cooper podcast. Yes. What do you see on the screen here? Well, we are in top shape today. Aren't we folks? Yeah, I have been awake for 16 hours. And if I'm not the least coherent one on this podcast, that is a damning indictment.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I ate a big, astronomy's right before we did this. Oh, nice. The energy pastrami sandwich. That's the thing. That's the model. That's the product that we launched. I would buy it. Oh, can you imagine my dad gone off one of those just pastrami and slaw leaking from everywhere. Just talking about how good Mal was for no reason, for two and a half hours. Y'all imagine the car again for no reason, go ahead, Roz.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I imagine the energy aspect would perfectly counteract the food coma aspect and what we will have done was invented a sort of quailude. All right, I'm the quailude as a sandwich. Yes. And that's going to be the drug of the 2020s. You know, because we haven't really- Oh, we haven't really quailude as a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, absolutely. Well, it is a sort of cured meat. Yeah, the guy at the meat count, he's the drug dealer, he doesn't even know it. Yes. Well, it has a sort of cured meat. Yeah, the guy at the meat counts, he's a drug dealer, he doesn't even know it. Yes. So what you're looking at in front of you is a Victorian photograph of a suspension bridge. It's kind of a sassy stance here. Yeah, exactly. There's always people who are very much posed for this photo.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And this is a photo of the rebuilt Broughton's suspension bridge, which is just northeast or northwest of Manchester. Now there's a reason why it was rebuilt. And that's because it fell down. Down. I want to talk about that. No, not a damn bridge. No, no, no, no, let's not do this. We have to do this, but let's not do this. Now, this is not a huge disaster, and no one gets killed in it.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Some people do get injured, but this is a disaster, which is in physics textbooks all over the, everywhere in the world, sometimes pub trivia, you know, all kinds of stuff. It's a very famous one and we'll get to why in a bit it involves soldiers and mechanical residents. First, we have to do the god damn news What a headline once again, oh, are my parents not gonna understand this one pro-Ju-J podcast And you know what no two-thirds of us are pro-Ju-J. One third of us is doing this on the protest. And actually, Liam's actually a de-grother. That's right. I'm very mad about bananas or whatever the hell.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah, this has been an interesting week for us, like asking questions of political ideologies, like, where will you get your insulin or where will you get your bananas? Out of your body. I think your trick is to get one of those insulin. So like, fru fruitly there, insulin, insulin, where where will you get to insulin? Yeah, so we're not the only ones who are pro-Jew chayla because a US Army private who got on a fight with a South Korean civilian and was jailed for like two months in South Korea prison,
Starting point is 00:08:27 was being sent home to the US to get kicked out of the army. And they put an escort on him and the escort, you know, this MP or whatever, takes him to the airport, puts him on the plane, leaves. And this guy, Travis, I think his name is, I don't remember his surname, Travis Vee, or whatever, gets off the plane again somehow, hooks up with a tour group going to the DMZ, and then gets to hear the joint security area with the raised curb with the military demarcation line between the Republic of Korea and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. And it's heard by witnesses to say, ha, ha, ha, really loudly, and then just sprints northward. That's the Keystone Carp Shit, I love it.
Starting point is 00:09:18 That's pretty funny. It's really funny. And they don't stop them in the South. They, you know, the North Koreans grab them up. And at time of recording, they still have them. The US Army's official policy is, please bring our quirked up white boy back. He isn't so much trouble. Please, please, please, please give him back. But the problem is that you may be whether the two Koreas are still at war, right? There's an armistice, but there's not like a, or there's a cease fire, but there's not an armistice. So he is a member of a military of a country that is at war with North Korea, who has just defected and surrendered North Korea in wartime. So they might just keep us out, which is, I'm sure he's enjoying that secret
Starting point is 00:10:12 workers paradise of North Korea right now. I will say, I hope that he becomes some sort of American demigod. Oh, like the North Korean, like the American defectors before he used to like act in all of their propaganda movies as like the bad guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds fun. Yeah, I mean, I think the bi-reputation, if you're like, if you're captured or in prison
Starting point is 00:10:41 in North Korea and you're white, you have a pretty good time of it. Like obviously it's bad. You get interrogated all the time, so they don't actually torture you. Regardless of what Trump or anyone else says about also Wombir. So yeah, maybe he's just having a good time there,
Starting point is 00:10:57 but this is certainly the most anyone's ever done to get out of being kicked out of the army. Cav Scout as well, which is really funny, because the one thing I know about cavalry scouts is a story I heard about one of them being hospitalized for drinking the glow stick liquid for a second time. Why would you do it again? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So he's going to find out one way or another. I genuinely don't know if they're going to give him back or not, or that he's just going to have a long and fruitful life in the DP, OK? Yeah, in the North Korean film industry. Yeah. That's right. I think about a tweet from our editor and friend, Devon from like a year ago, it's like, nobody really defects anymore.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You don't only hear about defactions. Well, you know, it's back now. This guy did a back, you can defect now. Yeah. We're doing proxy wars. We're doing like nuclear threats, guys defecting. It's, you know, there's be like, no, no one really defected to like the Taliban or anything. John Wyden, dude, try to maybe, you don't really know, right?
Starting point is 00:12:17 I don't feel like you can really defect to like the terrorists as an abstract concept. Like, I really can defect to terrorism. When we're doing the new terror. You're a jerk. I mean, I know a lot of people who are engaged on one side of the war on drugs and then left and defected to drugs. So congratulations to drugs for winning the war on drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it must be possible to defect to terror as an abstract concept. Lots of Americans are defecting to poverty, but we don't even have a war on them anymore. When you think about it, corrupt cops are just defecting to crime. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I guess they're like double agents of crime. And I mean, I have to be honest, crime is kicking our asses. Like, as drugs, as I mean, it's kind of really only terror. And the terrorism is the only one we took seriously, yeah. And now you have to stir up minute there. And then now we don't have the grace of society and stuff. Yeah, but like, we did kind of like beat back terror a little bit. And now you have to get penis detected at the airport.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So it was worth it, I guess. Does Khalid she go to Harvard count? Cause he lived here for a while. He went to, didn't he go to NC state or something? Or NC A and T, he did Khalid she go, Harvard did. Wow. Okay. There's a mechanical engineering. Hmm. He has a bachelor's in mechanical engineering.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Hmm. I mean, that was the engineering. Yeah, that's true. That is literally true. It is. Engineering is a big deal. It's a big deal. You love that person and also crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Love to defect a terror. I think a lot about the Glasgow, like, ramming attempted fire bombing question mark attack where two guys just like filled their car with a load of propane canisters and rammed it into a ballad and then it caught fire and didn't explode because propane doesn't work like that. And those guys were, respectively, an engineering graduate and a medical doctor like to be fair. Neither of them could figure out a prop intake. It should work. It should work right like my seed movies Thite you know Some total my engineering knowledge comes from the movie falling down
Starting point is 00:14:36 No, you've seen speed right I have seen speed. Well, okay, good. No making that oh We don't need to remake speed No seen speed. Well, I think we're making that. Oh, we don't need to remake speed. No. When you think about it, this kid just basically falling down his way into North Korea. That's true. And it's kind of like a one in one out policy because this is after, I want to say last year, a guy falling down his way out of North Korea. He, like literally, he like GTA, carjacks are cheap and just drove it south. And I think they shot him on the way out, but I think he survived.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And we came and like fished him out. So we, the US. Yeah, so I'm excited to see what happens with this. I think having more falling down incidents would be funny. But yeah, so I'm excited to see what happens with this. I think having more falling down incidents would be funny. As long as I'm not in a way of them. You're just trying to puzzle out what the North Korean license played on the Jeep's head. It was like, what the fuck is a defense?
Starting point is 00:15:39 No. Now, I mean, the thing is like Biden doesn't have the like mercurial personal relationship with Kim Jong-un that Trump did. And if God forbid Trump is elected again, this could make with some interesting sort of bilateral negotiations if they hold them that long because they have a beer summit. Oh, yeah, they're going to do the beer summit. Kim Jong-un is going to be our goal with all a beer summit. Yeah, they're gonna do the beer summit. Kim Jong-un is gonna be our old beer summit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Oh, yeah. Yeah, that. All right, well, we're not we're not basing that as a joke. News news. There's more news. Uh, Sapporo, USA has decided to shut Logan anchor steam beer and San Francisco, which had been growing continuously since I believe 1896. Everyone's blaming it on being the first
Starting point is 00:16:34 Union craft brewery. I don't think that's the case. Um, it's sort of a cheap gotcha from like people with low text on Twitter, which is like really the mark of the beast these days. It's great. Where it's just like, ah, you just this is what happens when you unionize or whatever. And it's like, no, it's shut the fuck up. All of this, are you like, why is all of their politics like filtered through beer to like between this and but light. And that's like, and the right wing beer that was going to be brewed in northern Illinois. This is sort of there's a different this is more of a tech bro gotcha than it is like. Yeah, sort of anti trans reactionary gotcha, but anchor steam bear has been sort of this San Francisco institution for, you know, almost 130 years or whatever it is now. That was the zodiac, killer. Like, exactly. It's tradition.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It was, I believe at some point in the last two decades, it was sold to some vodka guys who started to... Oh, go ahead. All right, I was gonna say, I don't know which ones they are. I mean, it just is saying vodka guys is very funny and obviously that can be anybody, you know? We sold it to two guys who had like a handle of T-SOS. It was owned by the Maytag Blue Cheese guy.
Starting point is 00:17:58 What? Yeah. But anytime you look at how anything is owned or like operated and you follow that through, it's like, it's sufficient to drive you insane. But those were just like years. I was one of the May tags ran it, but they sold it to the vodka guys. And that's when working conditions started to deteriorate as I understand. And there was a big union drive where, including who's used on sky, yeah, you're
Starting point is 00:18:25 right. Including a steamed podcast and colleague, Bryce Belden, right? You know, to go have the whole destroyed this, this, this, this, this brewery brewery. It's like this. It's a difference. You know, so the, uh, they organized with, uh, international longshore and warehouse union. Um, and, you know, the thing is the boneheaded management decisions didn't stop eventually. So they organized with International Longshore and Warehouse Union.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And the thing is the boneheaded management decisions didn't stop eventually. Those guys sold it to Sepuro USA, which is part of Sepuro, Sepuro Brewing is obviously a Sepuro Japan. They do essentially American style macro brews, but they're Japanese. It's a rice-based American ad jug logger. And Sapporo, I believe, despite it being a very old institution,
Starting point is 00:19:14 they had never owned a craft brewery before. Now, I'm not sure if you call anchor a craft brewery. I'd sort of call it a legacy brewery, sort of like England, where they sort of predated the craft idea, right? It's like an legacy brewery, sort of like England, where they sort of predated the craft idea, right? It's like an intermediate. Yeah, it's one of the few pre-prohibition breweries that exist that wasn't like giant, you know, because you needed to do a lot to survive for a vision.
Starting point is 00:19:40 But Sapporo sort of came in, they're like excellent. We have a new location to brew our Sapporo beer They brought in a bunch of macro brewing style equipment into the brewery and try and modernize it And you know that's good and it's so much as the brewery equipment in the brewery was quite outdated as I understand But bad in as much as the macro brewing stuff was not very good at brewing micro brew stuff as the macro-brewing stuff was not very good at growing micro-brew stuff. Because all that is really optimized for beers that have a really large proportion of rice, and you need to have the same exact batch over and over and over again, and when you say, well, we're going to make an actual beer in this, it sort of craps out. Yeah, I mean, it's a shame for both for me, someone who enjoys the Japanese beer, but
Starting point is 00:20:27 also for the workers or whatever. And then they, you know, so they started cutting some of their really popular beers like the Christmas ale, you know, some of their best sellers. And I'm not exactly sure why that is other than being boneheaded management, but I would suspect because those would be hard to brew on a new equipment. They want to focus on the steam bear, which is closer to a conventional logger. They did this weird rebrand where they took this very old branding and they sort of changed it. So it looked like twisted tea.
Starting point is 00:21:02 They reduced distribution. So like I used to be able to get anchor steam at my local beer store up the street here in Philly. I can't do that anymore, not just because they shut down this happen a couple of years ago. I think I hit hard by the pandemic too, of course. Or did they?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Actually, I might not have, I'm not sure. I have to actually look into that. But you know, the support I really just came in and wrecked up the places, the long short. They're going to the Blame the Union, yeah. Yeah, and yeah, lots of people are trying to blame the Union for this. And it's very stupid. And it's a shame that you would take this institution and you would wreck it so quickly, you know, because this is like the San
Starting point is 00:21:46 Francisco beer and not in a way that like the new craft breweries are, you know, this is like, no, this was the San Francisco beer 130 years. I mean, if they hadn't been a unionized workforce, then the angle that all of those same blue ticks would be taking right would be the sort of the finest anti-Japanese racism of the 1980s, right, from like, I'm not sure, yeah. Right. Just the entire plot of die hard, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:14 For sure. You buy the thing, you run to the ground and yeah, no. Sell off the parts. Right. I suspect we'll have something that looks like anchor steam come back at some point. The industry is still viable. Like, right. Yeah, exactly. Um, make victory. It's just, it's bizarre. Um, just how this went down. Well, it's because of the world. Yeah, it's obviously because of wokeness. They
Starting point is 00:22:45 made them put pronouns in the beer. And the same reason that state farm is pulling out of Florida is because it's woke now. And they put pronouns in the beer and it fucked up the macro brewing equipment that Sephora
Starting point is 00:22:58 installed. Yeah, you can't have a beer that's like a brood by somebody who has gender because then the gender gets into the beer. Yes. So, yeah, this is, I don't know, this really pissed me off. I was not happy to hear this and I admit I was never a huge fan of the steam bear, but you know, it is something that should exist and it was, you know, it was the
Starting point is 00:23:27 I'm not sure if it was the first craft unionized craft brewery, but it was probably the biggest. And so this is a big setback, I think, for beer organizing, certainly, except in the large macro breweries, which are all union. And it's a big setback and sort of like market diversity, you know. And it's just you can't have this like fun little sort of like niche thing anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, now you got to go to like a hundred billion craft breweries in San Francisco and Oakland and so on and so forth. They all look identical.
Starting point is 00:24:03 They all look identical beers. What the fuck is the session IPA? Don't speak to me. Oh, I don't understand that I'm counter-revolutionary. Yeah. I'm not afraid to say it. Hey, I can tie this back together, though, because two things you hate at once, you know who also brews their own beer lately is North Korea, because they bought a brewery from, I want
Starting point is 00:24:32 to say Bedfordshire, and they just shipped it wholesale to Pyongyang. And yeah, so there's an English brewery making domestic North Korean beer, even as we speak. That's a interesting diversion from the usual way that goes, which is German's brew the beer. Yeah, that's surprising. Maybe they couldn't afford the Germans, but yeah, North Korean beer. North Korean bitter. Oh, would you say that the North Koreans are having some trouble with warm beer?
Starting point is 00:25:10 Oh, yes, right. Cause it's British first. Anyway, I put a third news in. Okay. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah. So, um, universal studios, I believe illegally trimmed some a bunch of trees. Well, trim is not the word here murdered some trees. Yeah. The LA government is on it. They just posted something about it. Uh, in front of, the screen actors, Gil and writers, Gil picket lines in front of their studio, you know, which is they, these are big, you are big shady trees that we're providing shade for the picketers. And they're like, nah, you know, I need those. Well, it's like classic dice tricks.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And just murder these 80 year old trees or however old they are. Yeah, to be honest, you don't get shade. You have to like march in the sun. It's like, you know, 150 degrees old out of the fuck. And yeah, so they did have a permit for it. And the thing is, right, what would have been really helpful because they could have murdered the trees in that trim them. I think I think it maybe we should emphasize that these trees are
Starting point is 00:26:16 pretty dead, right? Yeah, but the thing is if they had installed some of La Sombrita on the street, then the pages of the day would take turns, getting a little bit of shade under the tiny little curves piece of metal. Yeah, so there's been all kinds of dirty tactics aimed at picketers recently. I forget which studio it was,
Starting point is 00:26:41 but one of them blocked off the sidewalk in front of their offices for some kind of quote unquote sidewalk work. And two picketers got hit by cars. NBC, you're a whistle to that. Yeah. It's it's it's it's they're really they're really hitting these people hard. I know there's some people like all these, you know, these these screen actors and these writers in their bourgeois, as some kind of, I don't want to, you know, comment with them, then you do it the studio heads.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I can tell you that right. Yeah, this is, this is true. I mean, these, these folks are, um, like Josh needs a job. Yeah, I know there's like a lot of like, you know, there's a lot of activity around various strikes that are going to fire up soon, possibly UPS, possibly, well, probably not UPS.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Or is it UPS? Yeah, UPS, man. All you spurs, baby. And then who else? I say, you night here is having a big strike soon. They got really big strike funds. The writers don't. So you're saying throw your support somewhere.
Starting point is 00:27:48 That might be the spot to do it. Put it in the description. The S.A. L.A. is also doing like snack distribution for picket lines, which is fun. You know, donate to that. Yeah. So, you know, I bet support our friends in Hollywood, which we have because we're entertainers. That's right. I feel like the thing about like all these actors and millionaires is people don't really understand how much a million and a billion is and what the difference is between them where it's like no a millionaire is like petty bourgeois or not petty, but as bourgeois, like, you know, addentists can be a millionaire. I used car salesman can be a millionaire. It's like, from a not from you to like them is like, okay,
Starting point is 00:28:30 it's like earth to the moon, right? Fine. Don't not saying you have to feel great about them, but the difference between you and a billionaire is you on earth to like this fucking center of the universe, right? It's genuinely like absurd when you stack up how much money studio heads have. Bob, I can make God, I just like something like $480 billion, which is too much money for any person to ever have for any reason reason especially for someone whose job is to do nothing
Starting point is 00:29:05 So yeah, I like what one of the one of the studio heads You're one of the studio exactly just said well, you know the the objective here is we're gonna starve the writers out of their houses Right You know and then Roman was like will kill you like That was pretty funny. That was pretty funny. Be careful, motherfucker. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 00:29:27 One of the reactions from a writer I forget who it was was like, they think we have houses? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, and my nourishment is the actors who do and who are striking in solidarity
Starting point is 00:29:42 with, I don't even swallow my nourishment, the rises. The striking solidarity with the vast majority who don't right like It's it's real bad to be a working writer or a working actor in Hollywood right now apart from like Five people and all of those people are on strike for the rest of them too, so right You're right the world's greatest TV episode and over the course of 20 years, you get 75 cents in residuals. Yeah. So the city of Los Angeles is going to, well, the fine is going to be substantial because they have just killed these trees for no reason. And as we alluded to, with the chant earlier, tree law is one of those things
Starting point is 00:30:28 where people, there's a sort of like mismatch between perceived and actual seriousness. And people think, I'll cut down the trees like one fine, how much they're gonna cost me. And the answer is $11 trillion for the rest of your life. Yeah. So yeah, I hope all that money goes to some great municipal services by the city of Los Angeles. That's all I can say.
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Starting point is 00:31:31 Cool, but you have type one civilization off of the fact that the, off of the Los Angeles, the city of Los Angeles streets to bomb. It's so big. It throws off. Oh, so big doesn't want the sun. So much better will strike in the shade. Starts rotating around like it's the handle of Thor's hammer, you know, huge. I really like that. Somebody has become like a sort of a thing for us, you know. It's so charming. All right, we have to do an episode.
Starting point is 00:32:14 All right, news. That was the goddamn news. Okay. We're not to ask an answer question. We've asked many times on this podcast. What is a suspension bridge? It's a way to get from one place to the other. You can drive over it in your car and destroy the planet or you can walk over it and be hit by one of the cards. It's one of those things that doesn't seem like it should work, but turns out it actually works very well.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Probably you should be able to fly. Yeah, exactly. Um, according to all known laws of British building, stringing a cable across the thing, and then hanging the thing from the thing should lead to the thing falling into the gorge or whatever, but instead it doesn't. You have a tower. You have an abutment. You have a tower not pictured.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Another abutment, right? You have cables. They go over the tower. They go over the abutment, you have a tower not pictured another abutment, right? You have cables. They go over the top. They also have an abutment. And then they go into the abutment where they're anchored, right? Then there's cables that come down from those big cables and they hold up the bridge deck, right? All the weight from the bridge deck is brought up into the cables and goes down the towers.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And the cables are held in place by the abutment that prevents the tension from overloading the sun so forth, right? I know we have to explain this every time we do a suspension bridge but you know there are a lot of people out there who are listening to you explain a suspension bridge to them for possibly the like dozenth time in their lives and are excited by it. And it's those people. Those people who were rich fall down, Mr Bond. No, those people are great, like genuinely. Thanks for your money.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah. So in the early 19th century, the suspension bridge cable was really made of big links of chain, right? Or I bars, chain bridges again. And all we fucking talk about when we talk about suspension bridges, other than when it's Santiago, Calatrava, is the like 50 year period where people were like, why don't we try building them out of these like chain linked things and it sucks. Invent the cable. Make it less rigid. I'll go back in time and I'll go back. I feel dirty just saying.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Take that. Go take the time machine. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. What did you do? Well, just run straight past killing Hitler. And you're like, you do both.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I can do both. I can do both. Oh, you bring a length of like steel cable with you. You use it to kill baby Hitler. You like, drop baby Hitler with it. And then you go, Oh, boy. Yeah, you go back to a little further and you like drop that sort of like
Starting point is 00:34:53 Hitler blood stained murdery steel cable on the desk of isn't budking to Brunel. And you're like, I can, you go like shit from the idea. Yeah. I always thought there was a significant've got to work in it from below. It is. Yeah. I always thought there was a significant rest to going back and time and killing Hitler. Because what if you miss and then he steals the time machine?
Starting point is 00:35:12 He's a baby. Yeah, but that baby is going to grow to be Hitler. And he could grow to be Hitler anyone in history. Exactly. He could be like Stone Age Hitler. Oh, you tell you see a Stone Age Hitler. Oh, you tell us this stone age Hitler. Oh, future Hitler for that massive. Future Hitler.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Like, late years ago, there's not a new concept. Yeah, I love me. So I'm going to be thinking about Hitler, haped out about Hitler's, you know, we're never going to do a Hitler again. And meanwhile, all of the fucking like political tendencies in the world alike, we're going to do a Hitler again. And meanwhile, all of the fucking like political tendencies in the world are like, we're going to do Hitler again. Yeah. We should try that. Try the Hitler stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Anyway, no. No. You're Polish number one. Number two, I'm Jewish. Number three, Alice. I'm fucking eight different kinds of section winorecy. Yeah, don't We can't we can't get demonetized because I don't worry about We're gonna my mother yelling at me We're not we're an anti-hitler pro-Jewt show podcast. What about this is World's only anti-hitler podcast Put it on the shirts I'm not going to be a little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more
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Starting point is 00:36:47 Thank you. Mm hmm. Browns go. That's already pretty much what reds carry. Yeah. Lots of these suspension bridges. Oh, are you mad that we went off topic guy who guy? This like I'm doing my best here. I'm vamping. We got to make it to an hour.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Last week, suspension bridges are still standing. Some of them are not because they fell down or they were demolished or they just sort of, you know, they got old, right? We've covered some of these bridges before from the Silver Bridge in West Virginia to the Yarmouth Suspension Bridge. Do they want to discuss it? The one with the fucking clown in the barrel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Okay. Today, we're going to discuss a famous incident which gets brought up in physics classes all the time, right? The Broughton suspension bridge. The Broughton suspension bridge. But before we do that, we should talk about mechanical resonance, right? What is it? How do you avoid it in your big structure, right?
Starting point is 00:38:00 So most objects have some natural resident frequency. Explain why. I was going to take a lot. Do it. Yeah, yeah, we're like 38 minutes and we've got like three slides left. So most objects have this natural resident frequency where if they vibrate in a certain frequency, those vibrations will amplify each other. And eventually that may lead to some kind of catastrophic failure. For us to bring it into each other, but not in a cool fishing way, just an annoying, exciting way. For most stuff, you don't really have to worry about this.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But for some stuff, it is a problem, right? So like a wine glass is a great example. You can play a certain note and it just shatters on its own, right? You know, for some things, you can take advantage of it, like let's say a pendulum clock. The pendulum has its own resonant frequency and for a very small energy cost you can have the clock run very accurately for a very long time. Or let's say on a swing set, you can shift your center of gravity on the swing and go higher and higher each time you swing, right? Jennifer is doing for second thing. Ross.
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Starting point is 00:40:37 Back to the show. For large structures, residents is very complicated, which is posed to contemplate the tuning fork as a concept of a moment of silence for the tuning fork lost in the war. No, I was taking a sip of beer. Now, residents is very complicated. For large structures, you know, at that point, especially today, you're looking in like finite elements, analysis and stuff like that, right? But we can sort of get the general gist of the thing out of Hooke's Law and some derivations about oscillation, right?
Starting point is 00:41:18 So, uh, shit, what's the guy's first name? No clue. You said Hooke. I know. Yes. Haft clue. He said, yes. Hampton, first name, captain. Yeah, Robert Hook. No, captain. Robert Hook stated sometime back in the 1600s.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Uh, you know, okay, force equals KXK is a stiffness constant. X is the distance. What this means is for a spring, the spring has a stiffness k, right? And you have, the force needed to move it by x is f, right? Excuse me, capital F, right? So, you know, essentially that a stiffness constant exists for springs is what's going on here, which is measurable and which can be applied
Starting point is 00:42:14 generically to lots of springs, right? So, I guess as you see here, we have a spring, which has traveled one distance with one amount of force. It's traveled another distance with another amount of force. If you had a less stiff spring, it would travel farther, saw on and so forth, right? Sure. With you, sir. Yeah, so how does this apply to like resonant frequencies? Well, it turns out the stiffness constant still matters, right? So this would be like for you drop the weight, you have the spring, you attach the weight to it, you drop it, how do you predict how it goes back and forth afterwards, especially
Starting point is 00:43:02 if you're in some kind of frictionless environment where it does it forever, right? So the guy just kind of looked at most stuff and was like, that's also a spring. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, lots of stuff is spring. Now, it helps a lot. You can do a lot more advanced analysis here, but for all intents and purposes, everything is a spring. This is very relevant to like suspension bridges.
Starting point is 00:43:31 So what we see is this derivation here, we have lowercase f, that's frequency, which is half of pi times the square root of the spring constant over mass, right? Oh, this is a constant. I don't give a shit about that. Essentially what that means is if we look at a suspension bridge, as it's stiffer, the frequency increases, but as it's heavier, the frequency decreases. Cool. So make it more rigid but also much lice. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:14 We finally did. A higher resonant frequency is going to be something that's a lot more difficult for any natural forces to replicate, right? Yeah, you accidentally do the wine gloss thing and like a soprano can shatter your bridge. Yeah. Well, a soprano would not be able to, you wouldn't have the magnitude of the sound to,
Starting point is 00:44:38 I don't know, I mean, he has some pretty good sopranos days, days plus, we got amplifiers, this is something that like a human is throwing back a real budget could really have the test, you know, as is the next Mr. Beast video. Yeah. I mean, that dude's gonna turn into a super villain sooner or later. He's just going to flip the switch. Now, once he's, he's drunk on power. He's already been like, I've given like a,000 people the gift of sight. Now he's going to like turn on the opposite direction, be like, I've given 100,000 people
Starting point is 00:45:10 the curse of blindness, you know? I don't understand those videos. They all take like two months to set up for like 30 seconds of content. Yeah, it's, it's, I mean, far better for me to like impune anybody's content, but it really does seem to be sort of like leveraging charity into the brand in a way that makes me really uncomfortable. I just think those videos would be more interesting if they were longer. Um, they just creeps me out, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And, and, and, and, because I think he's going to stop blinding people. Legally, I can't prove that. It's a vibe. So like with that in mind, I'm Mr. Beast, the equation from earlier, the general principles here. Here's two suspension bridges, right? On the top, we have this very slender, very light. This is the little belt bridge in Denmark. Right? You can see the deck is very thin. Right? It's very elegant design. So Scandinavian social democracy. Yeah. And below that is the very heavily built Manhattan bridge in New York City. Right? Six months on tea. Yeah. on tea. Um, yeah. So now the little belt bridge here to simplify a whole bunch, it has a smaller
Starting point is 00:46:29 spring constant. Uh, then the more heavily built manhattan bridge, because the Manhattan bridge has all these stiffening trusses and all this extra extra, you know, um, built into it, right? Yeah, all that animal riches. Yeah. Yeah, they made it more rigid. Um, the Manhattan Bridge, of course, also has more mass. So it has some disadvantage there in terms of frequency compared to the very lightly built, uh, little belt bridge. Now what this sort of means here is this is kind of a wash between the two ones, as to exactly
Starting point is 00:47:05 what the frequency would be, but you can sort of look at how all this stuff works. I really think about it here. For modern bridges, we develop these analytical models that mitigate problems like resonance. Generally speaking, normal loads on a suspension bridge don't happen in regular patterns anyway. It's not a big deal, but if you think about what the resident frequency will be, you've got to take these factors into account. And now we can build everything very thin and call a travel ask instead of building the big giant sort of like, like, like, fuck you, America kind of thing,
Starting point is 00:47:47 which I, it's a great shine. Yeah. Um, you know, obviously, sort of the exception to this role is the Tacoma Nero's bridge, right? Which admittedly, that was not exclusively due to mechanical resonance. There was also aero-lastic flutter, which if you went to our first live show, you learned about. RIP Tutter. Yeah, exactly. With better aerodynamic design for bridges, we've largely managed to eliminate those problems.
Starting point is 00:48:20 So on, you really big bridges, these resonance problems are not huge. But for smaller bridges, it's a different story, which is why we have to talk about soldiers. Oh, these guys, these fucking assholes. Yeah. So as you say, they're feeling a very strong urge to go get my musket from my cupboard. I six foot tall musket. One of these guys is going to defect Sweden.
Starting point is 00:48:50 So, as you said on the slide, so I'll just moralist the same in sort of like a guy qualities from that day to this. And most of the history of warfare has been a close order formation, right? You and your besties, you're going to war, you stand shoulders to shoulder with one another. And you know, whether you have pikes or whether you have like sort of muskets or whatever the fact, that's a convenient way of fighting because you're all together, you have like sort of like pushing forth, difficult to break your formation. And when you have firearms, you have like volley fire and stuff
Starting point is 00:49:29 and it's easier to keep coordinated, because you're normally aiming at shit, so forth. That also means that you have to invent marching. And marching is a convenient way of getting body of troops from one place to another. It keeps the same pace. They keep in the same order, They keep in the same order. They keep in the same sort of like close order so they can fight from the same position they've
Starting point is 00:49:49 marched from. And it also lets the officers see if anyone is trying to defect North Korea, which is major concern back in the days when you're just grabbing people off of the farm or whatever. And yeah, so military still do this. They all still practice close order drill, because Prussians in the 18th century became a bit sort of sexually perverse about men in uniform and marching up and down and started to think that this imbued attributes
Starting point is 00:50:23 of discipline, martial courage, all of these things. And so now, if you're in the military, even if your job is to repair certain very specialized kinds of information systems and computers, you still have to march up and down the square sometimes. It's interesting because you don't really think of marching as something that was invented, you know, it's just like that, that, that military's always did. Sure. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely, it dates back to antiquity at the very least, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:58 at some point, someone has had to have, you know, develop a, he'll Maybe. Yeah, it's not a very natural way of walking particularly in its more ossified parade forms and different meltows and even different units. We'll have different marching speeds. Some of which can be very, very fast. Some of which can be like weirdly slow. Like if you've ever seen the French foreign Legion march,
Starting point is 00:51:23 they have this AC8 beat to piment at the call at the crawl. And they really just sort of like wonder, which is fun for an elite fighting for us. It's just, you imagine just those guys going to work into a great, yeah, right. And here, I'm out band of like foreign assholes and they just kind of like slouch across the thing like fuck you fuck you fuck you. Give me my citizenship already. Everybody else is on 120 there and 88 just like fuck you fuck you fuck you. So marching is important here because marching is a repetitive load on the ground. Let's see how they go.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Heal strike too. You get kind of crunchy sound off of a hot-node boot hitting tarmac. Oh yeah. So this is the Broughton Bridge, right? As far as I know, there's only this photograph of it, and this is the reconstructed one. It was built in 1826. It spanned the river Erwell, northeast of Central, northwest of Central Manchester. It was probably designed by a man named Samuel Brown. He was a prolific early suspension bridge designer. Some people say it was designed by a local millwright named Thomas Creek Hughes. He was owned by a local millwright named Thomas Creek Hughes,
Starting point is 00:52:50 who was owned by a guy named John Fitzgerald, who also owned the surrounding estate. It was a toll bridge, right? It was whopping 145 feet long. I forgot that like in the 1820s, you could just like be a private bridge owner and just charge tolls and what I would be like. This is ditch if you want to get across the ditch you have to pay me like Five gold or whatever Still a guy who does that in on the Delaware River Joe Biden Yeah You had four chains that supported the bridge deck. Let's say one two three
Starting point is 00:53:27 eighties. Rafa. Yeah. These were two inch rods. They were four foot six inches long between the joints. Right. They had two inch bolts joining them. They had these one inch suspension rods. It came down from the main chains. So cast iron, right? This is all rot iron actually. I always get this to you mixed up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Rolls-lines to one that sucks even more, right? Rot iron has a lower carbon content that makes it more similar to modern steel, but not quite. Rot iron was generally a lot better intention than Cast Iron was. But there was some overlap between the two and metallurgy is sort of a dense infancy. So the material is not always the quality you specify.
Starting point is 00:54:20 We'll get to that in a second. Oh good. Yeah. So you have a wooden deck. This is a fairly simple structure. We'll get to that in a second. Oh, good. Yeah. So you have a wooden deck. This is a fairly simple structure. The whole thing weighed about 43 tons, right? This was opened the same year as the much more.
Starting point is 00:54:34 The weight of 1 F-250, yes. Yes, exactly. This was opened the same year as the much more famous and impressive Menai suspension bridge we saw in the slides earlier, right? That was the big one as the much more famous and impressive men eyes suspension bridge we saw in the slides earlier right That was the big one with the arches. This was sort of a local landmark, and it was a point to pride in the area regardless Right, it's got some decorations on it. It's got a big lantern Nice rod iron details. I like it a lot, you know, it looks nice. It's got a big lamp down there. It looks like if you can see through the JPEG compression. Just like Broden, you know, it's really
Starting point is 00:55:10 on the map now because we got this bridge. We have not been coming south. We can go from one side of the river to the other. Yes, and back. So this bridge served as purpose dutifully, it carried people with carried horses and carts. It carried a number of military units as well for a long time Until April 12th 1831 Yeah So there were 74 men from the 60th rifle 60th rifle core returning from exercises on the cursel more, right? And they were just coming back
Starting point is 00:55:47 to the barracks. And they were supposed to be at ease, right? They're not marching. Um, it was like a normal person. Yeah, you just walk like normal people. Yeah. So, but they get to the bridge. And apparently they're, they're close enough to walking in step. The bridge starts to bounce up and down. And they all think this is kind of funny. Which is bouncing like you now. Like you say, soldiers have never changed. Yeah. One of that one of them starts to whistle sort of a martial
Starting point is 00:56:19 tune, I believe it was described, right? Yeah, suddenly everyone starts broken. The other ones pregnant. Yeah, suddenly everyone starts. Suddenly everyone starts. Suddenly everyone starts. Suddenly everyone starts. Suddenly everyone starts. Suddenly everyone starts. Suddenly everyone starts.
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Starting point is 00:56:55 That's the bouncy bridge. It's fun. This is from a skillton temporary, a contemporary account in the philosophical magazine, right? That's a Riley screen name, the philosophical magazine. A philosophical magazine. This is what I'm reading so you know that I'm smart, you know. Oh, you're just reading like the normal guy, and I'm over here with the philosophical magazine. Oh, I want that magazine, the normal guy.
Starting point is 00:57:23 The normal guy. Normal guy sells a coping and seething about philosophical chats. They were net alarmed by a loud sounding something, a loud sound, something resembling an irregular discharge of firearms. And immediately, one of the iron pillars supporting the suspension change That which was the right of the soldiers and on a Broughton side of the river fell towards the bridge Carrying with it a large stone from the pier to which it had been bolted Of course that corner of the bridge having lost the support of the pillar immediately fell to the bottom of the river a Descent of about 16 or 18 feet
Starting point is 00:58:04 immediately fell to the bottom of the river at the scent of about 16 or 18 feet from the great inclination thereby given to the roadway. Nearly the whole of the soldiers who are upon it were precipitated into the river. I don't want to be precipitated. I hate to be precipitated. Yeah. Really, you don't want to be precipitated into anything, you know. Yes. If you're not part of the precipitate or part of the solution, why am I just thinking of shissy ponds? I'm too tired. I, I'm really enjoying this. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I like, I like that, that we do podcasts as a form of psychological torture to ourselves. I, yeah. Where in a scene of great confusion was exhibited. Yeah, that's, that tracks such of them as were unhurt got out as well as they could. Some by scrambling up the inclined plane, which the bridge presented, and others by waiting out on the Browden side, but a number is too much hurt. It's very lyrically written, you know, a scene of great confusion. It's a philosophical magazine,
Starting point is 00:59:02 else. That's true. The normal guy is rice up on this was like much more pro-Zeg. Yeah, more normal guys right up was, I fell in. You got it, fell. Yeah, bust the fell in. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I say well, the normal guy, it's not the most exciting to read, but it will tell you what happened. No flash. But a number were too much hurt to extricate themselves without assistance, which was immediately rendered by their comrades. It was nice of them. I mean, the thing is, like, if you get your leg crushed or whatever in this, it's the
Starting point is 00:59:35 1830s. You're just going to die of something. It's gone. Probably going to die from being in the river, you know? I believe everyone survived. Yeah, for a long, you know, if you get your like mangled or whatever, and then you like get like one of the many, many Victorian diseases, the philosophical magazine account, everyone was still alive, some were still in
Starting point is 00:59:58 hospital though. The philosophical magazine is like, but what is death really? Yeah, we got we got we got we got we got to we got a call up philosophical magazine and get a follow-up on this We got a set of a telegraph If it's the philosophical magazine still exists it's gonna be some like AC Grayling bullshit And yeah, it is in Britain, so don't rule anything out Yeah, so anyway a few To visualize this was why I put this tiny
Starting point is 01:00:26 suspension bridge up in the corner, right? You know, the guys, the guys are walking across. Here's that happy soldier guy. Um, as they march, this deck is going down, then it's going back up, and it's going back down, and it's going back up. That's putting stress on the cables here, and it's going back down and it's going back up. That's putting stress on the cables here, right? This is an exaggeration, obviously. And so eventually, the cable snaps at the anchorage on land here, right? And then this tower no longer has support keeping it up right.
Starting point is 01:00:59 So it falls over into the river, bringing one side of the deck with it. Because again, there's four towers on the bridge because it's one of these old-fashioned ones before the tower was a unified thing that spans the whole deck. So, yeah, the anchorage was the first thing to fail as a result of this, which is maybe not where you would expect it to fail, but that's what happened. So there's this sort of this brief investigation, which found deficiencies with the anchor bolt that failed, right?
Starting point is 01:01:35 There's only one of them when they really should have been two, and it was badly forged. It was actually had a higher carbon content than it should have, and it failed brutally like cast iron. So one of the conclusions here was, well, this would have failed eventually, but in this case, it probably would not have failed if the soldiers were not marching, right? You know, because this bridge was in regular use by, the military was also in regular use by normal people. Lots of people crossed this, they bring all kinds of stuff across horses, carts, so on and so forth.
Starting point is 01:02:14 They even brought artillery and stuff over it. None of it was a problem before, even though there were some structural deficiencies. But usually when there were a bunch of men marching on it, they weren't marching on it. I mean, they were just walking over it, right? Sure. So ultimately, philosophical magazine put it down
Starting point is 01:02:37 to the vibration from soldiers marching in Unison, and later an article in a memoir of suspension bridges from 1832, estimated that the force of soldiers marching in unison increased the effective load on the bridge by 30 tons. That's amazing. Yeah, I consider, I believe they said the men in total probably weighed like four tons, maybe less. It was 74 of them, like, unless they had the sort of like freakish like four tons, maybe less. Yeah, 74 of them.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Like, unless they had the sort of like freakishly fat man on a, like, extreme, or a marathon bicycle. Yeah. Yeah. Although I want to say, I want to say the, the, the 60th rifle core was originally from America. So who does? Variatic cool, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah, but consider that the, you know, the total weight of this bridge was 43 tons and 30 tons is a lot of extra weight. Yeah. So, I really like counterintuitive that you like, you know, this is more like a smaller bridge. Yeah, it's, it's the small bridges you like you notice it more on like a smaller bridge. Yeah, it's the small bridges you got to watch out for. The big bridges, the big bridges are built pretty solid. The small bridges, though, who boy? Yeah, I've been over a few and like sort of like out of the way, bits where it's like, oh, I don't feel good about this. This is just some rocks that someone threw in a stream, and like 8,000 years ago.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Oh, hey, it's the Albert Bridge. So this is the reason why I know about this is you mentioned this is like a thing that they teach you in like physics classes or whatever. It's also a bit of trivia that you will learn if you grew up in London and your dad ever had occasion to drive you over the Albert Bridge because dads are like incapable physically of not saying, did you know that if you're like getting marched across this bridge, you have to break step because otherwise you'll collapse the bridge every time you go over the bridge back and forth. Yeah, the result of this was, you know, number one, a lot of suspension bridges sort of fell out of favor for a while, right? They were sort of suspect. They didn't build as many for a bit. But the other thing was military procedure was altered in such a way that soldiers had to be at ease while crossing bridges. As you can see from the contemporary sign
Starting point is 01:05:06 on the Albert Bridge here, right? Still there for this day. And it's sort of like a little local meme, I guess there's a pub next to it that has a sign that says like, all troops was broke, step in marching into this house or whatever it's like. Now, you know, who didn't learn this lesson?
Starting point is 01:05:21 Is it me? Cause I never listened to, oh, it's the French. Isn't it? It's the French. Yes. Napoleon. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:29 This is 80. Oh, yeah, it would be Napoleon three. Napoleon three. Napoleon three. I just had a very strange phone call with the government. I'm. Oh, you and travel. Are you in travel?
Starting point is 01:05:43 No, no, no, no, I'm good. Everything's fine. It was just strange. Anyway, it's a friend. Half-cast, Quail. Yeah, yeah, very half-cast. Yes. Okay, so the government called you off and they're like, well, you, you turn into a bug. And I just say, oh, good. Please give me my two legs. When can I expect them? Are you who you say you are? Are you who you say you are? I had to verify, but they called me and I had to verify my identity four times. Oh my god. Okay, that is a Kafka. I am Liam. Hi, this is my phone number. This is where I live. No, I don't know where Justin Rosnack is. Can I take a message? I still don't know where I am. Thank God. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:06:36 So the nuclear reactor and the basement. That's not his. That's not his. Hey, that's not his. I didn't say it. I didn't say I just that it was an uprising nuclear reactor and it is in your basement, but you're not privy to its operations. Stan Mines. So at the Angers Bridge in France, I love the Angers Bridge. The Angers Bridge. It's actually where I live. I live under there. It was very rude when they collapsed it and I had to rebuild my house. In 1850, Napoleon, or whoever, I don't know who it was. It would have been Napoleon the third, I think. Napoleon the third was a strategy that was passed. That is 50. The podcast that does its research live on air. They marched a bunch of soldiers over during the storm.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Don't worry about me. And it collapsed. It was the people in the third 1850 to 1850. Two. Yeah. That's fucking dumbass. And that's for 1852 to 1870. Now, if I could just wildly take us off the rails for a second here, please.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Alice, let me ask you a question. Yes, do you ask your question? Were you ever in marching band? Do you have a marching band? I was never in marching band. We don't really have it. I did march, but only in the cadets. I was never good at it. It was the one thing I never, well, not the one thing, but it was one thing that I never really got. It was drill. I'm not good at it. I said, there are sort of sleeper Liam
Starting point is 01:08:09 activation modes, one of which is if you hum blood on the risers, I will fall into step. I'll fall into that. Yeah, you know that scene in animal house where the marching band is crammed into an alley, that happens to make fairly frequently. So, um, yeah, the bridge collapsed and killed 200 soldiers. Jesus, why are we talking about this instead of the fucking like British one that didn't kill anyone? Because this is the class people. People keep asking us for a cleansing episode after the
Starting point is 01:08:43 apparently we got a little too gruesome for a little too long there. Fine. Well, in this case, you get like 17 British dudes going dunked in a river. Probably 40 of them actually. Yeah, they get a lot of British dudes getting dumped at the river. You can sew and flash up a picture of Mount Patton's boat getting blown into low earth orbit if we have that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:05 So this is just one of those things in sort of the early days of like big metal construction, engineering, stuff like that. I'm not exactly sure how you blame this one on capitalism as much as we usually like to do this. This is sort of a failure. Capitalism led to the development of standing armies and the formalization of military drill, which means that both the bridge and the troops marching over it existed because of capitalism. You're welcome. There we go. All right, let's go. You know, it's sort of a
Starting point is 01:09:38 failure mode. No one really anticipated was exacerbated by some structural flaws. No one really knew how to test for. You know, this is just the price of progress, right? It was to be like, shaft and. Yeah, shit happened on this one. I guess that's sort of useful for us to remind ourselves that sometimes it is just like, eh, yeah, it's just fucking it.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Sometimes, sometimes someone up there just doesn't like you. Sometimes they won't need to get wet in a river or if you're French dying sometimes sometimes sometimes they just want to throw you into God's dunk tank. We know which side God was on and then a poly on it was. So the Brown Bridge was rebuilt basically in kind with some structural reinforcements, which I believe were specified by Isom Bart Kingdom, Brunel. I guess everywhere. No, but it fell it. Well, Britain's not that big.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Tiny country for tiny people. Yeah, yeah. It fell into disrepair by the early 1900s when it was replaced by this structure, which is still layered today, a big trust bridge. Quite nice. I like the green. Very fat check. The green is nice.
Starting point is 01:10:51 You get the open lattice girders on top that are rounded. Those are very nice. I like those. I do like to do a lot. And this thing hasn't fallen over at all. Well, I mean, here's the thing, right? You'll notice that the Albert Bridge notice just says or Troops must break step when marching over this bridge. However, you can march over a bridge
Starting point is 01:11:14 Us and the we could get the gang together, right? And we could march over the Albert Bridge. We're not troops I don't know the military. It was a high school marching band across. You could run high school marching bands back and forth over the Albert Bridge until it fell into the Thames and there would be nothing anyone could do about it. And not only could we do that, but we must should and will. That's our commitment to you, the listener. We will get some like marching bands like that one OK go video and we're going to march him up down until the Albert Bridge falls into the Thames. It's like when everyone crammed onto the Golden Gate Bridge for its 50th anniversary and it was alarmingly close to its maximum design load. Turns out lots of people heavier than cars.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Well, this is the thing, especially if they bring the like, freakishly heavy bicycle. Yeah, it's just true. And then, okay, did we learn anything from this? I mean, that's the Millennium Bridge, which is the progress, I guess. Yeah. And entertaining time. You've got the tape modding behind it on the right-hand side,
Starting point is 01:12:37 and then some Paul's off to the left-hand side. And yeah, I remember when this opened, because it was one of about 50 trillion millennium things that they did in London and like most of them it was shit initially. And people were, like they closed it a bunch of times because it was wobbling. Oh, fun.
Starting point is 01:12:56 And then people were like specifically trying to go on it in order to, like, because again, we will never learn. We're just like this. We're like fun bridge activity. You know, I'm gonna go on the bridge. So what exactly? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yeah, so, you know, the thing is your pedestrian bridge, especially novel or interesting ones. You can still have resonance issues, but we have more techniques to solve them now, right? And yeah, the Millennium Bridge was a big one. It was very bouncy when it opened because they did this very novel, very fancy, low slung suspension design. Right, you can sort of see here are the cables, and then there are these sort of structural members that are slung underneath the pedestrian section, holding up the actual bridge deck. It's weird. It needed
Starting point is 01:13:52 to be done for some clearance reason that I'm not certain of. It has barely any shipping traffic on the stems, especially of that, but like, I think it's like an upper vertical clearance issue. I don't understand at all. But yeah, so you know, this had a lot of problems with residents and a lot of problems with bouncing around when it opened. And eventually they solved it with some very expensive, actively controlled hydraulic rams at each side. Oh wow. Yeah. So, you know, you can just you can just solve anything by adding moving parts obviously more money.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Yeah. You're telling me that there's a guy in the tape modding or in like one of the, I don't remember what the fucking like mock chewed at schools are like, city of London, so it only goes, I think. It's just in there with a PlayStation controller just banging these things back and forth to stop the bridge from you better than the rest of us. I think it's passively controlled somehow. I'm not exactly certain how it works.
Starting point is 01:14:48 And I prefer my vision for it. You know, if you walk across the millennium bridge, the only thing saving you from contracting vials disease from the Thames water is a guy with a PlayStation control of whack and a couple of big mass dampers back and forth. This is one of those games they pay you to play because it sucks. Yeah. Logging in for my shift on a large hydraulic ram simulator.
Starting point is 01:15:18 But that's the story of the Broughton bridge. What do we learn? All troops must break step for crossing suspension bridge. You can you can watch troops must break dance across bridge. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'd watch that. That'd be pretty good, actually. Only suspension bridges. Any other kind of bridge you can march. However you want. I'm not much fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Probably fine. Haven't had this happen to a cable state bridge yet. Yeah. I mean, you know, if you want to test this, here's the thing. You just got to get you and like 73 of the guys together. Learn to march, which is easier to set them down. I can tell you that from experience. And then just try it out.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Road test your local bridge. There you go. Yeah. I ain't again, or you know what? We should go back to just building arch bridges. Yeah. I like my arch bridges. No.
Starting point is 01:16:16 It's like the thing is, especially if you're American, your right to keeping bear arms, it sounds on the idea that like you and the boys can get together and found a well-regulated militia, right? Well, one of the things that a well-regulated militia does is keep in bear arms, but another one is a lot of marching up and down. And over bridges, for instance, you fired the first shot at us. Well, I would just be one of those. Are militias going to drink because are militias or are rewinked fricers? Well, that's the thing. They finally get to serve a valuable public function,
Starting point is 01:16:46 which is testing the region, integrity and going in reverse. Those guys don't strike me as marching types. They strike me more as, um, sulking types, sulking types. Yes. We will segment on this podcast called safety third.
Starting point is 01:17:08 She can't be dangerous. Oh, it's a promising image. Yes. Hello, Justin, Alice Liam and guest. Wrong. No. In a minute, since we got a guest, we should do that again. That's true. Yeah. Well, hopefully one of the next episodes. Yeah. This safety third comes from a story I was told by my grandfather who in the 1970s worked in a professional field well known for their strict safety guidelines and unmatched care for their workers. The United States Nuclear Weapons Development Program. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm clapping my little hands together. Perfect. Like a little sealed.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I'm clapping my little hands together. Perfect. Like a little steel. Yeah. Mmm. The list of delicious treats for Alice. Yeah. Specifically, he worked for a now-to-fucked company called Hercules Incorporated on the Solid Fuel Rockets for the Polaris IRBM project. I'm not sure what IRBM.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Intermediate range. The Mr. Media range. Okay. Well, okay. The Polaris goes on the submarine. Hercules incorporated was presumably chosen for the project because they'd already killed at least 100 people
Starting point is 01:18:13 when their new Jersey dynamite plant exploded in 1940. That might be an episode. Yeah, it's like making a bones, you know, once you blow up a factory, you're kind of like you're made weapons carcass. Yeah, sure. You're real Italian. We only do like full Sicilian arms companies.
Starting point is 01:18:36 A side note, while I've gathered enough evidence to believe my grandfather, the exact details of the following incident are almost certainly either still classified or were lost when Hercules went under. I think it happened to the Teco testing facility in Utah, which I attached the photo of beyond that, I'm going to keep quiet. Okay. Okay. By supposed to have said that. Anyway, whatever. Don't include it if you don't want to read. Yeah. The incident occurred during the testing of one of Hercules's solid-fueled rockets When testing their rockets the company standard procedure was to stick them upside down on a large reinforced platform in the middle of nowhere and hook them up to an Ignition switch in a bunker several miles away
Starting point is 01:19:18 Now importantly this particular test site had a large concrete path between the bunker and the platform This particular test site had a large concrete path between the bunker and the platform. Now the testing platform itself was far away enough that if the path hadn't been there, the worst anyone inside the bunker would have suffered when the rocket exploded where some ruptured eardrums, which is actually still pretty bad. Yeah, you don't want to have that happen to you. Unfortunately, the path was there, so when the rocket exploded, it triggered a kind of reverse domino effect in the large concrete slabs that made up the path. This carried the shockwave all the way to the control bunker where upon several dozens
Starting point is 01:19:57 of tons of supersonic concrete debris reduced both the bunker and one very unlucky person inside it into mulch. As we learned from the Ned Ailen catastrophe, what you want to do is not be in the closest bunker to the thing, even if it's a convenient place to have a cigarette. You want to go and be like, is there a second bunker further away than the first bunker? Yeah. Or you could be like the Elon Musk, uh, fucking starship site, where the entire thing is like 500 feet square. Yeah, just launch from a parking lot. I, I, this is so unpredictable, though, just, uh, I, I, um, I would not have expected that to happen. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:48 It like genuinely to the point where like you, you test the engine, you shout off the engine, you go check on like Dave and the bunker and you find out that both Dave and the bunker are now mulch and you're like no, no longer there, no longer of the sir. chunky marinara, it's going to be an awkward phone call. Yeah. According to my grandfather, the family of the victim got a hefty payout from the feds to keep quiet about the incident and the site stopped being used for testing not long after. I mean, okay, it's shitty if it's like your dad or your husband or daughter, but on the other hand, of all the ways to get like a large payout from the federal government, just getting a guy, you know, a man and black sort of guy, you know, knocking
Starting point is 01:21:31 into him being like, yeah, your husband got mulch or whatever. Here's 500,000 dollars. Here's the publisher's clearing house, Jack. Yeah. You, you know watched the notes says very sorry frowny face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they just leave it's like, well, your husband was mulched is $500,000. Goodbye forever. I mean, I hope that clears. Yeah. At a moral of a story, fuck if I know, I was like 12 when I first heard it. Listen to your high school physics teacher, I guess.
Starting point is 01:22:09 I guess so. Yeah. About both this and resonance. Mm-hmm. But it's all resonance, isn't it? Yeah, it's all resonance. It's fascinating. Everything's vibrating.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Everything's spring. Everything's a fucking spring. That's true. Everything's a spring. I learned that from Polly Bridge. Very, very alarming. Yes. All right. Well, that was safety third.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Our next episode will be on Chernobyl. Does anybody have any commercials before we go? We have a PO box. You can send stuff to it. You should send me the stuff that I have from the pick other peer box. That's all right. You're advertising to us. Yes, yes, I am. Yeah, do you listen to all of our stuff? Bye. Yes. What else got to bed? Bye.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Yes. Let's go to bed.

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