Well There‘s Your Problem - Episode 33: Pier 34 Collapse

Episode Date: July 9, 2020

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Okay. So I guess this means, and I have to look at like seven things simultaneously to make sure they're all recording properly. Fantastic. The wonder of technology is supposed to make stuff easier, but it turns out now it's just like infinitely more complex. Yeah. Makes you think. Makes you think. Speaking, I mean, it's very much a theme of our podcast, which is what we're doing. Welcome to, Well, There's Your Problem, a podcast about engineering disasters with

slides so you can see what the disaster is. I'm Justin Rosniak. I'm the person who's talking right now. My pronouns are he and him. I am Alice Caldwell Kelly. I am also on a podcast called Trash Future. That's very good. You should listen to it.

My pronouns are she and her. And I have listened to the fans, right? I've read the comments. No, no, no. They have a point. We have a way of like, because we don't know what editing is of letting a disaster like spiral out into like, Oh, it's a five hour episode now. So I'm going to shut up.

I'm going to shut up more and hopefully we can knock this out in like an hour. I don't know. Anything could happen. Yeah, that's true. The power might go up halfway through because there's a storm of a century bearing down on us. Do we have it? Did I hear a voice somewhere?

Did I raise my hand effectively? Liam Anderson, pronouncing him. I'm the guy that hates you in the YouTube comment section. Yeah, it's true. Yes. Although we haven't been getting a lot of shit in the YouTube comment section. I got to give them credit for that. Like all it's it's been justified, create the most part.

Like why is this episode 19 hours long? Or why does Alice interrupt Justin every sentence? And, you know, I respect that a lot more than just like, who's the British dude? Scottish first of all. Second of all girl. Yes. Yes. I mean, some of the criticism has just been me like having him put out two hours of content

a week as opposed to one hour like all the other podcasts. Yeah. So he should be paying me more. That's absolutely true. Yeah, exactly. All right. So what you'll see on the screen here. If I could find my John Madden device back is up here.

Hmm. Right. You see this peer and you'll notice that part of it has collapsed into a river. I thought it was just modernism. I kind of like the like slanted design. No, that's bad. You're just sending a staircase. It's it's deconstructivism, but in the sense that the building was deconstructed rapidly

and in an unplanned fashion. No, today we're going to talk about the peer 34 collapse in Philadelphia. Um, Yeah, you said peer to me and I thought San Francisco instinctively and I was like, damn, the fucking sea lions collapsed up here. No, we have peers too. Because we have a river. Oh, yeah.

This is just more examples of why you shouldn't ever go to a fucking nightclub. I can't believe we finally did. We finally did a nightclub one and it's not a fire is the thing. Yeah, it's not a fire. No, it's the opposite of fire as a matter of fact. But first, before we talk about this, we have to do the goddamn news. Ah, who are these people? I've never seen this image before, let alone several hundred times in the space of once.

No, so they got they got Galane Maxwell. They take the the cops got her. I think the FBI cops. I for yeah, exactly. They got Galane Maxwell apartheid diamond air billionaire still a large. Yeah, it was an apartheid emerald mine. Yeah, but like my only comment about Galane Maxwell is in the form of an audio drop and it is simply. Because like she's she's not no, come on, man.

She's going to like trip and fall down the same staircase 15 times before she names anybody involved in anything. Wind up with some high speed lead poisoning. Exactly. So wait, we're we're we're Elon Musk's emeralds. Were they ordinary emeralds or were they emeralds of the chaos? May musk cackled. You mean the apartheid emerald? Have you seen Elon Musk's mom?

By the way, May Musk, she looks. Oh, yeah. Like 101 Dalmatians. You know, I want to say about that aesthetic is if you're listening, I'm going to have sex with your mom. I'm going to fuck your mom. Oh, yeah. Yes. I want that Cruella developer.

See, we are protected. God, I hope. It's just like totally free speech to say that I want to fuck Elon Musk's mom. She's hot dude. Like she's got that like supervillain emerald air s thing going on. I'm very into you. I'm going to guess that you really have a whatever the equivalent of a lady boner is. There's all SS exploitation with you.

It's not inherently inherently racist. To be clear, I'm talking about May Musk there. Yes, the SS thing is inherently racist. What I've got to check. Yeah, no, no, no, I understand. No, I just I respect. I respect a lady who is like going for like the gray hair undercut and like a bunch of like ill-gotten jewels in a necklace. That's that's fucking cool.

That's an aesthetic. That's the lady who is like made a decision about what her vibe is going to be like. And the vibe is going to be super villain. I respect the hell out of it. And I'm going to fuck his mom. Do you think you think Elon Musk's mom and Glenn Maxwell have fucked? Oh, that's sure. Yes.

Yes. Yeah, why not? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I feel like this is there's going to have to have been some like eyes wide shut or do you style situations so clearly? Yes. Yes. I do kind of feel for the woman behind Elon.

Oh, yeah. Like that like all that taped on smile. It's like, oh, boy, you're going to end up at the bottom of a river. I mean, this is the thing, right? Like she was at that party, so fuck it. Like I don't know if you saw but right before we started recording. Like Ellen Powell, the former CEO of Reddit, went on Twitter and was like, I was actually at the party this photo was taken at. And I knew that Glenn Maxwell was just like trafficking child sex slaves or whatever.

But like, apparently the cool people who just made the list thought that was fine. And I'm just like, Jesus, everyone knew about this. I made this point earlier. I was like, well, what can you even do at that point? Because he knows about it. It's an open secret. It's an open secret though. Like everyone knew that a fed to decided they weren't going to do anything about it.

Yeah. And like when it's that level of like, forgive me, Ellen Powell, but like CEO of Reddit is not enough of an insider that I can be like, oh, yeah, you totally get to go to the eyes wide shut. Parsley is right. Like that that's an open that's that's a normal person like a normal rich person is aware that like this child sex ring is going on. And like, and she was hiding in fucking New Hampshire. Right. Like this whole time. Oh boy.

New Hampshire. Someone someone tracked her phone. I can do nuts in Doyle's town. What the hell? This whole time I was like, no, back as well. She is. I was like, no, she's she's on a yacht in the like Virgin Islands, or she's like in Serbia in a bunker or something. And not this whole time in like this nice craftsman style, sort of like modernist villa in New Hampshire.

It's it's fucked, man. I don't know why. I do know why. I know why the FBI arrested her now after having forced out the U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York, who was like, who really had a boner for investigating this and replacing him with just some guy. So yeah, no, this is cool and a rest in peace. Geline. Yeah, RIP. Wait, didn't didn't the guy not get forced out?

They just told him he was forced out and he's like, I'm not sure. I think he ended up stepping down anyway. Yeah. I do appreciate that. You know, obviously the the dimming confidence of the American dream or whatever. I do appreciate any civil servant who's just like, God, fuck that, man. Like you can come and get me. I love that.

So anything just like walled up at his office in his corner office behind like a shitty copy of the resolution. Pipe bottles of Jim. He's just like moving, moving a shitty general services administration issue credenza in front of the door and being like, yeah, this will hold him. All right. In other news. You remember how Ruth Bader Ginsburg voted to approve that pipeline? I do remember that. That's punishing her reputation.

Oh, yeah, that's the one. Yeah. Well, they canceled it. So it was all for nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Now the fucking tubes because as it turns out, the shit don't fly no more. Why'd they cancel it just like the economy not being a thing anymore?

That's it. I just think so. Yeah. Stop. It's not going to be profitable. Yeah. Cool. I just noticed some of these place names.

Yeah. Noss away and din witty. Up sure. Up sure. Sure. It's not Shire. It's sure. New Hampshire.

Yeah. I got to say it like I'm doing a Somerset accent. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. You know, and then we can all go out and go out for please and gravy. Yes. Anyway.

I just found out today that bread in a can is a thing in New England. No, it sure is, buddy. Isn't it like a survival food? Like a bake a buck. You get like a can. I've seen you eat and that's what you're coming up with. You can get it. Have you seen?

Have you seen that picture of like the canned roast chicken that like it comes out of the big can. And it's just it's very, it's very bad. It's very bad, folks. Very bad. Not very good, folks. Yes. People are saying many, many such cases.

Yeah. Anyway, in additional news, American Airlines is back to flying full capacity planes, despite the fact they're still coronavirus. I think they were supposed to originally have they were they were not they were going to do what every other airline is doing and have like middle seats open and shit like that. And American Airlines, another friend of wisdom is like, nah, fuck that. Get it. We don't care.

Do the death drive. Yeah. I mean, come step into our death tube through the air. It's not that difficult. Just like pop the door open a little bit. Circulate the air. It's fine. Just so just this shit is just so goddamn stupid and cynical.

It's like it's on a train. This would actually be relatively easy because you just like, all right, every other row at a minimum, we're going to we're just going to roll it, you know, whatever, half capacity because we're a federal corporation. We don't give a shit about the profit motive. You put more cars on the end of the train. Yeah. We're adding more seats.

I do like the American plane having to have like a trailer. Yeah. Just a glider. It's just like towing a shitty Bolsterwood glider full of like amusement. You get a glider and a parachute. Scum class. I'd rate this as the second worst thing American Airlines has done other than getting rid of the nice chrome plane.

Yeah. Are we counting 9 11 in that list of things? They didn't do 9 11 Bush did 9 11. Yeah. That's sure. Okay. Sure. Some fucking tweet years ago from whatever horrible quarter of Treadcalf L Twitter, that

was just like, oh, when flying was an occasion. Oh, Christ. And I'm just like, you know what? What we should do is take all the stinger missiles we give it to every other part of Central Africa and you give them to me and you can still dress up to fly if you want. You can still wear a top hat. Like everybody's going to laugh at you, but you can do that if you want. Jesus.

If I ever fly transatlantic first class again, to be clear, it was because we got bumped. Shut up. I will go like white tails, like just fucking ridiculous being cross me, ring a ding, ding shit. I'll consume two bottles of bourbon, maybe I'll kill a stewardess. Making the flight attendant bring me another monocle because I dropped mine in my gimmick again. I will say I do not support this new thing where like you wear pajamas on the airplane.

I would rather that you get DVT than I have to see your socks. 14 hours in a goddamn middle seat coming back from Ben Gurion. And the guy next to me fucking took his shoes off like five minutes into the flight. And I'm just like, you know what? You'll have to edit this out. Maybe Hitler had some points. Yeah, but like there is nothing like canceled for being pro Hitler as well as going to Israel. I mean, very efficient.

The thing is right there, like any transatlantic flight and I'm kind of like I was glad when they were canceled. And, and you know, I'm sad that they're now back. Is that any transatlantic flight is a machine for making you into Hitler? Yes. The first time that I flew transatlantic, it was Air India and beautiful plane. Beautiful 747. They had the cool like curlicues on the windows and stuff.

I thought it was amazing. And then like 20 minutes after the meal started like recirculating the air from people having eaten Indian food in an enclosed environment and like airline Indian food. I was turning into Winston Churchill and then it was bad. Black hole of Calcutta Park, too, baby. Yeah. Yeah, no. It was yeah.

No, it's it's like I like I like the smell of curry. I do not like the smell of like preserved airline curry filtered through like a bunch of smokers lungs and then like whatever the fuck they use to line the air ducts in a 747 like asbestos and ferret corpses. All the all the air that comes in the airplane like you're constantly getting fresh ish air in through the bleed air from the engine. I love fresh air. I wonder what the rate of air change in an airplane is.

I have no idea. Hmm. Because like the cabin is pressurized. I'm doing air quotes. It's not like air tight, right? There's air leaking out. That's why they got to force an assload of air in as well. What an aficionade of transatlantic.

Poisoning. Man, bring back sea planes is all I've got to say about that. I think if you are flying transatlantic, you should have to work for it. You got to like land in Greenland and Iceland and Ireland. Yeah. You got to like hang out on a pier in like on the west coast of Ireland while they refuel your shitty aluminum bodied sea plane. And you just like frame yourself onto a tiny wicker seat.

That would be good. Yes. Hey man, I've done the Irish turboprop extravaganza to Glasgow. Yeah. It's fucking great. 30 minutes. Absolutely terrified. Are you saying you don't like the experience of being in the air, being shaken around,

just like. I don't even. I don't even buy that. Like I'm like Roz. I'm not a little baby bitch when I fly. Hmm. But yeah. I'm not playing on like the commerce flights.

Yeah. That's the point for our first live show in Glasgow with Roswell. Oops. And he says. 2050 when the virus is gone. Yeah. That's right. Oh my God.

To me. All right. Yeah. Speaking of methods to go transatlantic, we need to talk about peers. Yes. It's the end of the news. Yeah. All right.

Good news. I have a rhetorical question here in the notes. Okay. What is peer? It's when people around you, who you think are your friends, tell you that you'll be cool if you do drugs with them. Oh, that's peer pressure. That's different.

Is it, is it, is it where a boat lives? I thought boats live in the sea. Yeah. They have a house. No, you're thinking of a house boat. No, I'm not. That's where people live on the sea. All right.

Wait, wait, wait. Does that mean that like a ship that like a boat that you drop off of a ship, like a skiff or like a lifeboat, does that mean that the biggest ship is its house? Yes. And by extension, wherever the boat live, the big boat lives, that's a little boat's house too. I see. It's like a child.

Yeah. You got it. You gotta think of it. It's like a marsupial. You know, it's like a kangaroo. A little joey boat points its head out right before a 30-foot rogue wave smashes it into nine neat little pieces. Yes.

Aw. Aw. All right. So a pier is where boats go to dock. Oh. Right? Now, the reason you build a pier is you can go farther out into the water where the water's deeper, right?

But also, you can get more boats in per linear feet of waterfront, right? Hmm. So, you know, this gives you more surface area in which to dock the boats. Yeah. The principles of like docking boats and like intestines, surprisingly similar here. Yes. So back when everything was shipped, you know, transatlantic in a big breakboat sort of system, you know, this was pretty important because boats could take days or weeks to load and

unload. Hmm. You don't want like a tramp steam or just occupying that whole like horizontal like frontage there. Yeah. You want to be able to fit like five boats in where you could otherwise fit in one. And your waterfront property, that was like a busy place. There's lots of ships coming and going.

Back in the day, there's like trains driving down the middle of the street, delivering stuff to the piers. You know, there's like trucks driving around. There's like horses and carts getting run over. The main activity of horses and carts. This is, I mean, I feel like this is one of the main pastimes of this podcast is figuring out horrific ways horses can be killed. I mean, that's, that's most of history, right?

And like, especially most of industrial history is just like a horse and cart getting mulched by a train. Yeah. That's how they did logistics back then is just you measured it in like numbers of sacrifices. Yeah. Exactly. That's what they had. Why do you have a spooky skull on that billboard on the top right?

Just noticing that. Yeah. There's a big spooky. There's a spooky fucking spooky season. Yeah, it's true. It's it's going to prefigure. It's like a memento morai. You can see the New York City High Line here before it gentrified real bad.

A beautiful view of like a parking lot underneath it and like a spooky skull billboard. Yes. Beautiful. So now we have containerization. So you can load ships more quickly. You know, it takes like hours instead of weeks. You have giant port facilities out of town. So they're like, yeah.

You don't really have piers because like just having a, you know, a regular sort of just just having a spot where the boat can dock parallel to the shoreline is usually enough because the boats are so big now and you can load and unload so quickly. You don't need quite as much, you know, linear feet of waterfront. Plus you can just build this giant port facility. You have like basically infinite space. You can just keep going forever. Fine.

Yes. You don't have everybody crammed onto a tiny pier where they're being like coerced into a mob controlled union. And like all of their horses are being like just crushed underneath wheels. The horses are being unionized. There's too many deaths on the horse job. Well, I mean, the mob needs the horse's heads to put on the pillow. Exactly.

Yeah. How the fuck did Tom Hagan move? Like decapitate a horse, carry the bleeding horses. You know how much blood there is in a horse? Carry the horse's head up to the dude's bedroom, tuck it into bed with him, leave, not wake him up and still get called not a wartime conciliator. What the fuck is that? He had the mob controlled teamsters do it for him.

Yeah. I haven't got to get a guy who carries the severed horse. I got my severed horse head guy. This is still a pro Tom Hagan podcast. Like, yeah, all three of us, we couldn't get made because we weren't full Italian. It's true. I wasn't any Italian. So as a result of containerization, a lot of peers today, they're still there,

but they're unused or underused. And a lot of them have been repurposed for like recreation and entertainment. Yeah. Like unlike British peers, we're like a lot of the peers that we built were built for that because we had like pleasure peers that you just have like a fucking roller coaster on and shit like that. That was most of the peers here. But yeah, we have those two.

But not so much like in urban areas where, you know, they did a lot of shipping, but certainly down by the beach. Yeah. You'll have like a big pleasure peer that goes out in the middle of nowhere and you go there and now you're in the middle of the ocean. And if a hurricane hits, it falls in the water and dies. I mean, it falls in the water and you die. I guess also the beer dies.

You get out far enough on a pit. This was what they had to do before boats that could take you to international waters where they're accessible for everybody is you would have to like build a pier out far enough and just hope you're in international waters. And that was how the like Epstein's of their day worked. Oh, yeah. If you if you walk that far down that path, you can gamble. Little bar, little bar, little bar.

There's a painted line. In my head, right? It's the site gag is that there's a painted line floating on the surface of the water that then comes up the side of the pier and over the boardwalk and then back down again. And you're just like, man, that's convenient. Yeah. All right. All right.

But today we're going to look at a specific pier, which is pier 34. Right. Hmm. Great. The PBR. R. R. C.

O. That's Philadelphia and Reading Railroad Company. Ah, commonly known as acronyms. Yes. Yes. Commonly known as the Reading Railroad. Hmm. All right.

So pier 34 in Philly has existed since at least 1875. Right. It was first owned by S and W Welsh, which was a sort of old fashioned merchant shipping firm, right? You know, sort of like way back in the day, it's like, ah, yeah, we ship anything, whatever you want, you know, back with transatlantic shipping was like a big deal. And like, yeah, just shipping all of your like insanely dangerous 19th century stuff, just like waiting for your Amazon order of Jellig night and cocaine to get in.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, pulling ship. Um, this pier was later sold to a coal company. Then it was sold onto the Philadelphia and Reading Railroad. Um, and around 1909, they enlarged it to handle more modern ships. And it became the size it is in this picture. Right. Um, so this is mostly used for loading coal onto ships and barges.

That was delivered by the Philadelphia Belt Line Railroad, which is what's running down to our avenue here. Does the railroad run onto the pier itself, or do they just have to like take it off next to leave? There was a railroad spur onto the pier at some point. Okay. I am not sure of that though. Um, I've only ever managed to find, uh, really low resolution photos of the pier back in

the heyday, which is the next slide at court. But back to the classic, uh, the classic, well, there's your problem of low res photos. Yeah. Low res photos and photocopier burn. That's how you know it's an official document. This is warehouse, sugar refinery, sugar refinery, sugar refinery warehouse. Yeah. People love sugar.

Yeah. I like that this is far enough back that the American ice company has a warehouse. So you just have an ice man just coming around like with a big block of ice. Oh yeah. They're still like getting ice imported from the Arctic rather than making it. It's like that joke from the Simpsons where, you know, they lost three men on the last expedition. That was a real thing.

All right. So, um, again, mostly used for loading coal. Um, and this is Delaware Avenue here. If you're new to the city, you call this Christopher Columbus Boulevard because that's what the, uh, uh, that's what the name on the road sign says, but it's Delaware Avenue. Um, yeah. You need to follow Baltimore's lead of dumping the entire street into the harbor. Um, yes.

It wasn't even renamed until like 91, which is the dumbest fucking thing. I mean, it's much easier to go Delaware Avenue in parts, which doesn't even make sense. Much easier, I suppose, to climb up on both a couple of street signs and toss them into the water than to like move a whole Columbus statue. But our mayor did it for us. Even though he's a chicken shit little bitch. I was about to say, I really had to stick it to, um, uh, what's it? The, uh, Wooder Isis.

Um, so, all right. By 1984, this pier was surplus to the railroads need, right? That was Conrail by this point. I lost a long ass time then. Oh yeah. I mean, this, I looked up historical aerials on this and it was still like a, there were still coal barges outside by like 1981. Wow.

Yeah. So, um, in 1984, this was owned by Conrail at this point. And they sold it to a lawyer named Michael Asbell. And he decided, He decided, let's turn it into a nightclub. Gentrification. Yeah. So this is a similar problem to what we talked about on the wine episode in East Germany,

where all our productive industrial facilities are being turned into nightclubs. And, you know, pretty soon there'll be nothing left to build anything because everyone will turn it all into a nightclub. I love to go to the steel mill nightclub and then just be unable to buy anything that requires any steel. Yeah, exactly. I accidentally turned like the last, I don't know, let's say like the last flower mill in America.

It's a nightclub now. Now there's no more bread. Yeah. People don't know this, but NAFTA actually requires that you turn all of the racism factories into nightclubs. Destroying our America, heartland of the process. I know. There's like, uh, they're meeting, uh, you know, the New York Times reporter meeting,

uh, the salt of the earth in the heartland and a diner. Yeah. Things haven't been the same since NAFTA was passed and they turned the, uh, I don't know. The dick sucking back from a factory into a nightclub still do a lot of dick sucking there, but, you know, Yeah, be going to do it recreationally. That's not the same. Yeah.

You don't get paid for it anymore. That's neoliberalism right there. The fucking casualization of labor. Yeah. God damn it. Anyway, so period 34 was pretty heftily built structure, right? This was built for 500 pounds per square foot. That was the, so that's enough for like heavy machinery.

That's if you have like a big pile of coal on there, if you have a back of train up on there, you can handle all that crap. Right. The thing is cold, very heavy, like a ton of coal weighs like five tons easy. It's true. I'll stand by that figure. Not nearly as heavy as a ton of iron ore. That weighs like 15 tons.

Oh, Jesus. Yeah. So according to Hidden City, Philadelphia, the construction was 2,500 yellow pine piles, 18 inches in diameter, driven 50 to 70 feet into the riverbed. It's a wooden deck on top of the piles. And on top of that deck was eight feet of filled dirt. There's a cover of pavement on top, surrounded by a concrete seawall. Period 34 was constructed to support a train track across his length, as well as to withstand

bumps from ships in the river. Right. Sorry. Haven't I got bumped by a coal barge? Yeah, exactly. Not so good. That's why it's got to be hefty. So, you know, this is a pretty hefty structure.

You should probably be able to build a nightclub on top of here. No problem, right? Oh, sure. Nightclubs weigh a lot less than coal. Yes. Like a ton of nightclub furrowably doesn't weigh that much. It's probably like a third of a ton. Yeah.

Yeah. So this is the only picture I could find of the pier back in his heyday. Back here. That's great. Yeah. Classic department of records quality image. Yeah. We do.

Yes. A week. Sometimes on my face. Go fuck yourself. No, you can't come see the high resolution archives. The thing is, the city of Philadelphia's department of records operates on the same principles. Justin, when you're doing the news, you just copy the news banner from the last

episode so it gets lower as every time. That's how it started out. That started out as a beautiful high resolution seal like two weeks ago. Yeah. I have been in the department of records. I have been in several parts of the city archives and. Oh boy. Yeah.

I've been in there. Yeah. I worked at the city. I just I'd go in there every so often be like where the fuck am I? Am I in some sort of altered dimension? Is this where the shadowy global cabal beats? How do they find anything in here? I almost incredibly musty.

Were you in the, were you in the part that's in the old bulletin printing office? Yes. Or were you in, okay. Yeah. With the big freight elevator that you like you could drive a car into. Yeah. For some reason. Well, the rules.

Possibly simple car. That freight elevator, I was just like, oh, look how big it is. Yeah. Yeah. I'm good on elevators there. I don't even want to be, I don't want to be swallowed alive whole with my car. What's up guys? I was in some shitty archival photos.

Fuck this. Just do it. Just driving like a 49 Packard up into the freight elevator and doing donuts in the department of records. Cool. You could probably do a donut in the elevator. Jeez. That's a big fucking elevator.

Welcome to the podcast that stays on top. Yes. So that was also where Drexel's shitty classrooms were on the basement floor of that. As well as the formula SAE temporary lab was on top of the city archives. And of course we had a special fire extinguishing system that would completely flood the lab. Like they were a major fire, but that would also completely flood the city archives by extension. Really good planning.

Yeah. Incredible. Yeah. That's just stacks of moldy paper down there. I mean, you successfully evaded a problem, but like that sounds like something that we would set up in one of these slides is, and then they put the like the racing team on top of the archives. Safety is why.

Oh my God. That was a dumb building. All right. So the bulk of this pier dated from 1909. So it was 75 years old when it was sold to Asbell, right? And during that time, the railroad shifted most coal export operations down to pier 124. That is where there's a big automated rotary dumper system that could load a hell of a lot of coal very quickly, much better than like guys with shovels or whatever they had here.

So as I mentioned before, aerial photography said it was in use until at least 1981. But there was an engineering report done in 1978 that said the pier has probably got about 12 years of life left in it before it needs like major repairs or needs replacement, right? So by 1990. Yes. Correct. Because this part of the Delaware River is tidal. So you got tidal forces acting on it, you know, a couple of times a day each day, right?

You got like, you know, you got like normal deterioration from just, you know, wooden piles soaked in water for a hundred years, you know, all this stuff. It got hit by a barge pretty hard sometime in the 1950s, and it's old, right? But despite this, you know, plans go forward to turn this thing into a nightclub, right? Now, this is what it looks like today. And you see, we have I-95 here, right? And the dumbest part of the building in Philly, the residence is a dark side. I was about to say, it's even got the title, like the blank at blank.

It's it's supposed to look like a boat. Right? Yeah, I see that. And it is near absolutely fucking nothing. You could like maybe walk to South Street, but it would be a huge pain in the ass. Yeah, I love to cross like eight lanes of traffic. Yes. To get to a freeway. Yeah, cool. Freeway overpass. Yeah, no, it looks great.

It looks great. And I understand why people pay millions of dollars to those fucking condos. Yes, Roz, I'm sorry. You have the wrong mindset here. Oh, do I? You need to put yourself not in the mindset of a sane person, right? Way ahead of you. You need to put yourself right now in the mindset of a South Jersey nightclub operator.

I don't want to do that to myself. You want to open a waterfront nightclub? You want to do it on Pier 34? Why do you want to do that? It's a great location because you can drive in from Jersey, come down 95, get off the highway, get right into the parking lot, right? Do you can have you can slam like, I don't know, seven martinis? Sixteen beers, yes.

Sixteen beers, right? And then you can pay and then you can drive drunk home real easy, right? Back to Jersey. Yeah, you can go to your shitty Philly suburb and talk about how much you love the birds and how much you love the Sixers. In fact, you never go to Sixers games because you're a fucking racist. Are you scared of the black people there? And you can talk and talk and talk about how all Pennsylvania

taxes are so fucking bad. And here in the People's Republic of New Jersey, I still got my rights. So you could go down for shitty Sunday gravy at your cousin Vinny's fucking godawful duplex somewhere in the end of it. And just bitch, you know, the bitch in mode about WIP that I put a good programming on and how the fucking Phillies are never going to world world serious because Bryce Harper is fucking ungrateful. And then you can add a drug drug to your kids' fucking school and end

your fucking Catholic life because you weren't good enough to live in Morsow. No, but you also mentioned another advantage. If you're a South Jersey nightclub owner is is that because 95 is here, of course, that that sort of blocks your nightclub off from being accessed by, you know, those people, right? Yes. Yeah. Not a fucking accident, bro. I know, right?

So. So it's a very difficult to get here, you know, very difficult to get here on foot or by public transit. Unless you live at the residences at Dockside, then you can probably walk that. Well, this is one of the shitty things that actually this is just another ramp because I'm taking over this podcast. There is not in frame, I don't think, but there's a bar in Philly called Morgan's Pier, which is Roz's least favorite bar in the world.

As far as that's out there, yeah, it's not very good. It's loud. It's just because we never learned our lessons from the first fucking time we built a bar out of here. And it is like it's so fucking funny because it's just the only way to get there. It's like you can either take the forty three bus, which if you're coming from where I live is incredibly inconvenient or you can take, you guessed it, a fucking Uber.

So when you get to Morgan's Pier, there's five hundred fucking post-grad Penn kids just a block it up fucking Delaware Avenue and they're all shitty drunk. And they're all just like, I just want one more nineteen dollar martini to feel something before they go fucking home to their whatever duplex in the city where they're also afraid. They don't have to look at black people. That's the fucking thing about these bars is like, that's shit's on purpose. I fucking hate Morgan's Pier.

I'm protected by the Constitution. Leave me the fuck alone. I stopped by the bars where people can't fucking walk to. It's all in fucking fact. Yeah. All right. So Michael Asbel leased the pair to a man named Eli Corinthians, right? And he opened Eli's Pier 34 in 1992, right?

Two years after the thing is supposed to like fucking have major renovations. Yes. And so I don't I don't know very much about Eli's Pier 34. Apparently, there was a major boxing match there once. And then also part of the pier collapsed into the river in 1994. That was this section over here. Had a partial collapse, but this apparently wasn't serious enough for it off anyone to walk it off.

Yeah, between Bernard Hopkins and Eric Reinhardt. Yeah, yes. So eventually, Eli Koranthney decided I should find some outside money to invest in this and really class up the joint, right? So we need to talk about the Mushulu. Oh, that's this boat here. That's a nice boat. I mean, yeah.

So the Mushulu, as seen in the Godfather part two and Rocky and Rocky. Yes, it was built 1904 in Glasgow as a court for a German shipping firm, right? Just thinking about like a Glaswegian shipbuilder having to have that dialogue with like a German dude who'd like, yeah, I've onto the ship to be named the Kurt. You want motherfucker? Yeah, I want to I want to the ship to be named the Kurt. I want to use it to transport the beer from the fucking from Kiel,

nach, nach Amerika, and the dude's just like, what? Aye. Yeah, this four-masted bark, right? You can see three square masts, and then you got one four and aft mast in the back, 396 feet long. All right, there's a real complex history behind this boat that I can't fully get into. It was originally built for shipping.

Did that thunder come through on the audio? A little bit, but it's fine. That one did. That one came through, yeah. Yeah, there's an apocalyptic storm going on right now. It's to give you a break from the like nightly mysterious explosions. Exactly, right? If we die, we die doing what we love, insulting New Jersey.

It's like four in the afternoon here. It looks like it's midnight outside. So this boat was built to it's because we're talking about maritime shipping. Suddenly the weather is getting angry. They ship coal, coke, nitrate, and then eventually converted the boat to ship grain from Australia to Europe, right? In World War One, it was seized by the Germans, or is seized by the Americans from the Germans.

Oh, no, mine bought. I just switched from my one kind of German, which is like, I was like, guys are cut into the other kind of German, which is like the Southern German fancy boy and I'm just like, oh, no, they took the boat from us. That's that's that's going to come in handy for the beer episode. So say they renamed it the Dreadnought after they seized it. And then they found out they already had a Dreadnought. So they renamed it again to Mashulu, Dreadnought 2.

Dreadnoughta. It means Dreadnought in Seneca, Native American language. Allegedly renamed by Edith Wilson. I read that. Oh, Woodrow's wife. So I'm surprised they didn't just name it shiny, happy white supremacy. But you know, yeah, just name it a racial slur. Yeah.

So a whole bunch of stuff happens to this over time. It was at one point re-seized by the Germans during World War Two. Yeah, if you have some boats back again. And it eventually wound up by 1970. It was being used as a hook in Stockholm to store grain, right? And then it was bought by a company called American Specialty Restaurants Corporation. Oh, boy. They added new fake masks and rigging.

So this all comes from the 1970s. It's not real. They towed it to South Street Seaport Museum in Manhattan for use as a restaurant. And then eventually it was bought by the billionaire, heiress to the Campbell soup fortune, Dorrance Hamilton. Dorrance. Dorrance. Dorrance. Dorrance. OK, fine. Why don't rich people name?

I mean, this is just like the XA 12 of its day, right? Yes. Because of Dorrance. So Dorrance. Because it used to be that rich people could would never get laughed at. And now they have to get laughed at on Twitter, which is at least one good thing that's come out of this stupid. Yeah.

Didn't Tucker Carlson marry into the Campbell soup fortune? And was that like, was it like another? I think it might have been like it was either Campbell's soup or it was like Hungry Man dinners or something. Swanson, thank you. Yes, it was the Swanson like frozen dinner fortune. Chris, making a cameo appearance on the podcast coming in from work to tell me that Tucker Carlson was like born into the Swanson frozen dinner fortune.

That's that's a hell of a way to make your money. So her company, Dorrance Hamilton's company was called HMS Adventures. Yeah, cultural appropriation. That is cultural appropriation. Yeah. So Eli currently wants to bring the Mashulu to Pier 34 to to improve his pier nightclub, right? And he eventually comes to an agreement with Dorrance Hamilton. They'll bring the Mashulu down to Philly.

They'll patch up Pier 34. They did a whopping five hundred thousand dollars worth of repairs after the 1994 collapse, which is mostly just bracing existing piers, right? And HMS Adventures bought Eli's Pier 34 outright and they kept Eli on as a manager. Well, that's the dream, right? You get bought out of your stupid idea and you get to do nothing job. So the ownership structure at this point is

Michael Asbell owns the physical pier, right? HMS Adventures owns the boat and the nightclub. And Eli is now just a manager, right? OK. This is this is in May of 1996. Six years after the thing is going to like fall into the water. Yes. But having done some bracing work. Just like a little bit of bracing work, you know, it's probably fine, right? So now you've got a really classy joint.

It's got like a restaurant in an old tall ship and it's got good highway access so you can drunk drive home really easy. It sounds like the worst fucking place in the world. I don't want to go here. Well, the news is awesome. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So a couple of years passed, right? I'm going to spoil some stuff with the next slide.

But all right. So the actual incident that occurred, right? The boat looks fine. The boat. Well, the boat's still there. That's a classy joint. Didn't you just see us? Yeah, exactly. So in 2000, a new venue opens up at the pier. They wanted to bring, you know, like, I guess a younger crowd in.

So they opened Club Heat at the end of the pier, right? Which is basically just a big tent, right? That they put at the end of the pier. Billy loves the pier. I love to drive drunk to a tent where I can drink some more and then drive drunk home. Yes. Well, that's convenient. That's the Cherry Hill Dream.

You're not going to take public transit anywhere. So. All right. So there's there's a problem that they start to discover after they set up the big tent. There's a big crack in the floor two to three inches wide, right? Oh, that's not so good. So Eli. Decides. All right. The thing we need to do is cover the cracks with a rubber mat.

Yes. Until we find a more permanent solution. Not even not even like taping it off or anything. Just putting one of the like those mats that they used to cover cables. If you can't see it. Yeah, exactly. Out of sight, out of mind. But I mean, I guess it's very safe in terms of nobody's going to trip over the crack. Yes. So Michael Asbell hires a contractor to inspect the pier and find out what was happening, right?

And his contractor delivers a one page report, which basically just says, shut this thing down now. A one sentence for both. Yeah. Get out now, Dick, Wade. One employee of the contractor told Michael Asbell and Eli hours before the incident that this pier may only have a few tides left in it before something happens. Well, yeah, John Q.

foreshadowing decides to fucking yeah. This venue was only open for about a week in total. But yeah, buildings very rarely fail suddenly, right? There's usually a long period where it's really obvious and visible. It's something's wrong. I like the San Francisco Department Store. Yes. And in the case of Club Heat, you know, the obvious thing that was wrong was that this crack kept getting bigger.

Wonder how that happened. Well, difficult, difficult to notice. You just keep putting rubber mats over it. Dumping mats on there to fill the gap. A guy making like not even, you know, five bucks an hour back in 2000, just running back and forth to one of the Matt Warehouse where it's like, hey, can I get another $14 martini and he can't because he has to come back.

Arms are all that like trying to impress a girl at church group. Just yeah, I gotta I gotta load up the truck and drive to Matt's discount match. Yeah, Matt. That's they have they have a fat cat that sits on the mat. It's one of those middle school dances where the guys stand on one side and the girls stand on the other, but entirely by accident. Yeah, but there's also a giant rift opening in the middle.

So all right, May 18th, 2000, Club Heat was open for less than a week. And the crack was now a solid foot wide. What? Right. Yeah. How much how much heat would you even be getting in like on the harbor in Philadelphia in just like in a tent in May? Not a lot. Yeah. Especially they didn't have as much global warming back then. That's true. Yeah.

So around six p.m. that day, the tide started to go out, right? And as the tide goes out, of course, the water pressure on the pier keep and appear in place is reducing, right? Yeah. This time the pier didn't quite hold itself together. And at 8 p.m. just as the night was getting started, the club fell in the river. A mere 10, like a mere what?

Like 10 years after they were like, man, you got to do something about this. Yeah, pretty well. All of us. Testament to the folks who designed it that it stood up for so long, but not the folks who maintained it. Now, keep in mind, the actual extent of the pier went much farther this way. Hmm. Yeah.

You're looking at those those boys there. Do you think Bowie? It looks like a Bowie. OK. Bowie. David Bowie. So all right. So what happened? All right. So the pier falls in the river.

You had three young women. Jean Marie Ferraro, who was 27, Monica Christina Rodriguez, who was 21, and Deanne White, who was 25. They all worked for the Camden Aquarium. They were celebrating Deanne's birthday. They all drowned. Jesus. No, it sucks. Imagine a tent on top of water as you were trying to get up.

It's the same shit we always talk about is just the fit like interesting ways to die, although this obviously is just goddamn depressing. It's like, hey, you're drowning. And now there's a I assume canvas on top of you. So you can't fucking move. And just again, the like, you just try to have a nice fucking night out and some billionaire dipshit is just like, I can't be arsed to pay one point two million dollars to keep my dumbass nightclub literally afloat.

Instead, I'm going to two years prior to this. Would you like to know what what foundation she had started? Would you like to know? It's a nonprofit that seeks to preserve live rare breeds of livestock. And it does this by gathering and storing both seed and embryos of the animal and animals in its collection. So she fucking had money for bull sperm and whatever. Oh, I'm sorry.

Did you want to not drown? I can't hear you. I have to spend trillions of dollars on animal cars. Literally, yes. You died because instead of even though I could have easily done both, I simply could not be bothered to fix the club I own. And instead, I spent the money on on horse sperm. Literally that, which is so fucking absurd.

I just, damn it, man. Good Lord. I that I'd like I was I was aware of the like class character of this one. But like I was not aware of the like horse come detail. And that's going to fucking haunt me for a while. It's just be like, you go out, you try to like you celebrate your birthday. You work in a fucking aquarium and then like and some rich dipshit horse fetish is responsible in part for you.

Just dying horribly and totally like avoidably. Yeah, is Jesus, incredibly dumb. We should ban rich people from having anything to do with animals. Yeah, rich people. Like I just also see like whatever Elon Musk, Simpson, the fucking replies. And I'm just like, one of them is not going to make you any richer. So please just shut the fuck up.

Just go fucking outside and tear down his house at Padden, please. Yeah. No, I like that. I think it's it's a nice little show. You like tear it down. Nice low house. It has like those nice gothic windows. You know, I suppose this is the row house. Self was good.

Elon Musk is bad. This is, if nothing else, a cautionary tale of never getting to the club too early. Hmm. Yes. Yes. Don't don't club at 8 p.m. Don't go to the club. Period. Just go. Don't don't do that shit. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. So 43 people were injured, including eight first responders. Jesus, how the fuck did they do that? I mean, I mean, the tent was in there. Bits of people are watching itself and you're like, you can't fucking see anything either. It's eight. It's dark now. Like, yeah, you're you're getting like a lot of splinters and shit, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

Shit. So, you know, this was it was dark. Yeah, the river's cold. This was an entirely preventable accident, of course. So who got sued? Ah, so I'm fucking hoping everybody's starting with like the Bullsburton Foundation. Oh, God.

I did read one of the things that actually kind of inadvertently broke my heart a little bit was that Dan White was just about or had just graduated from Temple, which obviously is a Temple man myself. Like, you know, you feel a bit of kinship there. And when she died or as part of the settlement, which I know we'll get to, they started a scholarship foundation through, I believe, her church. And there's no mention anywhere of this of whatever, Doran, Hamilton donating for that or trying to like at the very least,

like beyond legal costs and like whatever the court settlement is. It's just like you feel like you don't even have a fucking obligation to like help that foundation out. Like that you what you should do if you had any goddamn decency at all is fucking take your three houses, because she did have three and you sell all of them and you say, here's a hundred million dollars for a scholarship foundation for poor people so they can just they can go to school or just anybody can fucking go to school.

But no, because this is just this isn't even a blip on your radar because you have lawyers and shit to handle that because you're never going to be. Oh, you're never going to fucking bother. Even if you're going to go play fucking HMS. You're just going to go to your horse even foundation and never have to fucking think about like why was he ruined? Yeah, because like being that rich, your whole life is like this like sort of glide of whimsy where you can just be like, oh, I'm going to do

some sailing ships and I'm going to do some like I'm going to jerk off a horse or whatever. And no, it's so fucked. Why would you collect horse come? What a sentence. Why would you, though? Because you're a billionaire. You've got some real fucking problems. Yes. Yeah.

So all right, Michael Asbell and Eli Correntny, right? They both faced criminal charges. They were both charged with third degree murder as well as several other charges. And I'm looking. I'm looking for the justice system to knock this one out of the park. It's it's really easy. You fucking put a bunch of mats over a hole in the floor. The jury was hung.

Both eventually pleaded guilty for what the charges in 2007. And we're both were sentenced to a whopping one thousand hours of community service and eleven to twenty two months of house arrest. Oh, and it only took seven years. I don't worry that the billionaire did not have any. Of course. Of course. No, this is this is this is why police abolition, right? Because if you're like, man, if there are people like this who are so

transparently bad and who need to, like, be punished in some way, well, what are you going to do if you just have no police and no courts? And it turns out the answer is pretty much the same thing, right? Like the city loses out on a thousand hours of picking up garbage. I feel like an angry mob could have handled this probably a little bit better. Yeah. So the civil lawsuits, on the other hand, eventually came out to twenty nine and a half million dollars of compensation

that came from Asbel Kurentini and also billionaire Doris Hamilton, who actually owned the damn thing and whose company made the decision to cheap out on the repairs. We're noting that Doris was the show that the sole director and stockholder in HMS Ventures. Um. Awesome. So once again, twenty nine and a half million dollars divided

between three people who died and like 40 something injured. Three quarters of it went to the states of the three women who died. And then the rest was divided up amongst the injured. I think that the injuries are mostly like hypothermia and bullshit. A few people got like serious last durations. But yeah. Yeah. I almost I almost drowned then seven years later. I get a check in the mail for like an Xbox.

Yeah. Awesome. So it came out in a wash after this through the lawsuit that about five hundred thousand dollars in repairs have been done in the 90s. They were wholly inadequate. It was a band aid solution. What engineers had recommended be done was a one and a half about one point two million dollar repair that would have involved completely replacing six hundred of the twenty eight hundred wooden pilings.

Right. And again, Doris Hamilton is a billionaire canned soup heiress. Right. Tending one point two million dollars for her is like if one of us bought a cheeseburger, right? Yeah, that's that's the money that you don't even notice because your money makes that much money back like instantly. Another thing is, according to.

This this problem had been evident before, right? One article said police also claimed C's documents showed that a carpet company had in the past three years written to correct me explaining problems with his carpets were due to the shifting of the floors resting on top of the pier and not problems with the carpets themselves. Some piece of shit is like, man, this carpet is defective. I can see the sea through it.

My dad was put a car for twelve dollars where you can see the the road through the floor. That was from World Socialist Website, which has a really bizarrely complete article on this event. That's like a weird weird Tratsky News News site, because I guess what they do now instead of handing out newspapers is they have they have news websites that look like they haven't been updated since 2005. Well, good for them, I guess.

Well, I don't I think a lot of websites from 2005 are more usable than ones today. So good, good on the Tratsky, I'd say, I guess. Good little spinning gif hammer and sickle. Oh, yeah. But it's got a four in it. You know, it's fourth and oh, yeah, because of, yeah. And according to an article in the Acquire at the time, there were no inspections done because L and I license

and licenses and inspections here in Philly. They claimed they only inspected structures above grade and that the peer inspection was the Army Corps of Engineers job. And the thing above the level zero is not our problem. Yeah, cool. But the Army Corps of Engineers said they only inspect peers at the footprint of the peer of the peer was changing. Right.

So when they did the repairs, they weren't changing the footprint of the peer. So they didn't look at it. So no government is just a loophole. Yeah, no government body was actually responsible for inspecting the peers as it turned out. Oh, seems like something you should you should have somebody inspect. But what do I know? I know, right? I mean, it's not like, you know, these things have been sitting here rotting for ninety five years or anything.

I like there's like over a hundred of these things. The idea that there wasn't even like a presale inspection or permits or whatever, like, oh, you know, boss, half this fucking nightclub is falling into the river. Like, don't just go ahead, open her up. That's a problem. Carpets as well. Fucking attitude.

So after this, Mayor John Street called for regular inspections of all city peers. So which hadn't they just like a new idea? Nobody had bothered to do that before. A new idea. What if we inspect the peers? Yes. Incredible. That's the kind of leadership that any city needs is after a peer falls into the the fucking river is to be like, man, somebody should make sure these peers don't fall in the fucking river.

Now the safety manual was written in blood. It's like how our our facade inspection ordinance got passed. Is that a a big stone corbel off of a fancy old hotel in Centre City just fell from the 30th story. This is about a one, like a probably a 500, 600 pound corbel. Just made a stone, which is like easily 1200 pounds. Yeah, it hit a judge right on the noggin. Oh, yeah.

One of those six feet under like comical death. Oh, yeah. I mean, it probably drove him six feet under. Like, it probably could be like a sidewalk. He is a peer. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Ironically, no one has to inspect him. Yeah. So now you have to inspect facades to make sure that doesn't happen again. If I was writing a safety manual, I would simply write it in ink. Sounds expensive.

You know, think about things that might happen as opposed to react to the things that do happen. I don't like it. So I guess I guess the lessons we can draw from this billionaires are all depraved pieces of shit. Yes. Nightclub owners are also all depraved pieces of shit, but in like a less baroque way where they're just like throwing more carpets on top of a yawning chasm. Yeah.

You should probably have the city inspect stuff. Oh, the city doesn't inspect stuff. The city, you have to find someone to inspect it for you. And then they submit the report to the city. And then a L and I guy looks at it and says, hmm, OK. Awesome. I used to do this report. Glad this is never going to happen again. Yeah, absolutely not.

There's no way that any other of these peers would ever have the same problem. It's not like inspecting these things is incredibly difficult and expensive. And it's not like anyone would try and cheap out on it in the future. Yeah. Yeah. So yep, yep, yep. Another, yeah, another incredibly stupid and preventable disaster happening because people don't want to do the fucking maintenance. Oh, my God. That's right.

Yeah, we've got to start a horsey farm. Yep. I go got to go stock up the horse seaman in a barn in Rhode Island. Yeah. Yeah. What is called like Swiss Valley Farms or something like that? The Swiss, it's like Swiss Village Farms. Yeah, it's on whatever.

Swiss Village is known for the horse come compound. She bought a new port, which is again, why we should seriously consider raising Rhode Island to the goddamn ground. Yes. Man, we got this one in in like an hour under an hour and a half. I know, right? Incredible. We should do this more often because we're going to make you sit through part two, which is the beer episode.

We got a report today. Part two is we just leave the recording going for another hour and a half. And you just have to listen to us bullshit for an hour. That's right. Yeah. But no, man, it will actually be the common narrows bridge disaster. That's right. Now, another case of failed inspections. No, that was bad design, actually.

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