Well There‘s Your Problem - Episode 50: Qs and As

Episode Date: December 28, 2020

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All right. Yes. Hello. It's me, Liam. Yes. I can hear you. Can you hear me? It is. Oh, fucks. I've already refreshed the fucking you like this. Do you want me to just continue to put my mustache on the mic? Is that is that doing it for you? All right. Yes.

Liam, are you there on the microphone? Can you hear us, Liam? Feel like I'm out of mega church preaching. Yes. Look at the notes of my phone. Yes. Thank you for that. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's how you do it.

Yeah. Yeah. Put the mustache on the microphone. But big, big Mario mustache. Praise the opening in your mouth. Yes. Oh, you're welcome. Anytime. Um, OK, welcome to a special episode

of Well, There's Your Problem, a podcast about engineering disasters with slides, except today we don't have slides because we're doing a special episode. It's a very special Christmas episode. That festival that two thirds of our podcast do not celebrate. Yes. I am just a person who's talking. Oh, God.

So I'm just a person. I'm the person. Oh, Jesus Christ. Our Lord and Savior who was born on Christmas Day. Rock, rock, all right. So I'm Justin Rosniak. I'm the person who's talking right now. My pronouns are he and him.

OK, go. You're already listening to our fiftieth exceptional, very special, Holly Jolly Christmas episode. You know who we are. My name is Alice Corville. Kelly, my pronouns are she and her. I don't have a mic stand, so I'm recording this from an undisclosed location and I'm doing this like a mega church pastor.

I'm holding a very heavy microphone. I'm just looking down a lot at my name is Liam Anderson. My problem is some questions about why you've used your like charity money to buy a layer chat. I know I can't answer that question. All things are, first of all, all things are possible through Christ. Shot that down. I will not be God is good.

The God I don't believe in is good. Well, well, there's your problem really does need a Gulfstream. We could do so much more efficient podcasts if we had a Gulfstream. Give us money to buy a Gulfstream. Maybe private rail or car. Then we could be our own episode of our own podcast when inevitably one of us gets strong and opens up an air hold. That's it for this dumb dumb podcast.

We would actually need two private rail cars because we'd need one that fits on United States trains and one that fits on British trains. Oh, that's true. Yeah, I have standard gauges when you could be an asshole instead. That's right. So today, what we're doing is we're going to cultivate some parasocial relationships by answering your questions, which you submitted through curious cat.me, the social media network

where teenagers and young adults go to have anonymous abuse hurled at them by their peers so they can find excuses to self harm. And now it's out. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And we're canceled. We made it to 50 and we're canceled. Yeah, literally, you know, full well, that is what the only thing this platform is used for, except for this, I know, I know, I fucking I know. But trust me, I never got a curious cat.

If people want, listen, if people want the questions they have answered so fucking badly, slide in my DMs and Venmo me five dollars for the inconvenience. Liam Dash Anderson Dash 23. Let's go, kids. Yeah, you got like a five dollar unblocking fee. That's right. That's right. I'm a one man, something awful operation. All right.

So how do we do this? Do you want to just go around, Robin, like pick a question? Oh, you would like M.C. this and you would like throw questions out. I just I'm just standing up in a room trying to record this podcast. I'm not looking down at my laptop. We need you to be showrunner for this. OK, OK. Normally, Dale.

Yeah, we need you to be the responsible person here. Jesus, I need to I need to start looking through these now. Strapping on the person in charge of podcast armband. Maybe we maybe we don't go with an armband, Alice. Somebody asked me, hey, how come you don't like you like railway shit and you're a giant nerd? How come you don't collect those those British rail safety armbands? And it's like, well, because in the 1930s,

a political movement ruined armbands for everybody. It's true. Yeah. And so like along with that little moustache, it's just one of those fashion decisions you just can't make anymore. I will say my parents when they were students protesting the Vietnam War. That's all my parents are. They had black armbands because they couldn't say fuck the war in school. So they did wear black armbands.

I don't know if that's reappropriation or what, but I will say my parents are Jewish. Leave me alone. Hmm. Well, I feel like you can get away with a black armband, but like not a red anything else, not a no, not a red one. It's funny, is the Soviet Union had a bunch of those like the Soviet Union and East Germany, because you see them on like eBay and stuff.

If you're looking at like trying to get a cool Soviet jacket because it's minus 50 degrees where you live. The littles of Moscow. Yeah, exactly. And the sellers will be like, hey, do you want like a bunch of these red Soviet armbands that we've got? No, no, no, thank you. I don't know.

I guess like if you've if you've done the whole Great Patriotic War thing and you've like lost millions and millions of people fighting the Nazis, you're allowed to like have a red armband that says communism to you. But like if you're walking around with it now here. I have I have I have a question that's going to stir up controversy. OK, is the metric system superior? Yes. No, moving on. Yeah, that did not start very much controversy.

All right, well, I guess we respect your opinion. Yeah, the real the real shit that we've got to do for a country that's not even really imperial, though. You live in some bizarre, some bizarre and all of the reasons why it sucks is a stone. All the all of the reasons why it sucks is because they won't use the metric system for stuff. But what I was going to say is the real shit for efficiency's sake that we should be doing is adopting the ultimate metric system,

the French Revolutionary Calendar. Yes, yes, 10 hours, 10 hours of every day. Yeah, 10 days in every week. Fuck you. And each day has a thing that it represents. So I'm going to find out here. I'm going to go to one of my favorite Twitter accounts, the French Revolutionary Calendar. Bunch of dorks. Yeah, cool dogs and fuck, is it gone?

Well, the fuck is my French Revolutionary Calendar account? Next question, please. Yeah, I'm looking for a good one. I reached the bottom. OK. Hmm. Do do do do do do. You do do one of them just says, I'm taking a shit. I did earlier, I did earlier.

I felt solidarity with that guy. Hmm. Yeah. Believe me, yeah, all the time. Who is the most capable of beating their dad in a fight? Me, me, not close. Yeah, my dad's kind of a badass, which like, yeah, I could. My dad, my dad, my dad, my dad, my dad, my dad, my dad, my dad, my dad, my dad, I could beat your dad in a fight.

I could absolutely kick your dad's ass. Here it is today. Today is the is the county, the fourth Nivos in the year of the Republic. C C X X I X celebrating the element of sulfur. All right, it's sulfur day. So for day. Yesterday was bitumen. Oh, wow.

What did you just call me? Mm hmm. And before that was coal and before that was so. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Bang and calendar. I will say I always thought the aluminum industry should declare a day in like late December or early January as box site day. I like that.

I will get back to the beating up our dad's question. I will say Mrs. Rosniak, Mr. Rosniak, if you're listening, Dan, all due respect to the world. You've been nothing but kind and gracious to me. And I would whoop your ass, son. Respect for it. Respectfully, but effortlessly suplexing Justin's dad for a glass table.

I, I, I will. My dad is all due respect, because my parents also listened to this podcast. Dad, I love you very much. You've been a great role model and leader and all sorts of other influences. I'm very grateful for you. And I would absolutely whoop your ass too, boy. So I, I, I could not whip my dad's ass in the slightest. The dude runs ultra marathons and shit.

And like the other thing is like he gets bored. So like every time I talk to him or like, I'll send him an email every few months to be like, hey, how's it going? Just checking in and we'll be like, yeah, I've got this new thing. And also I'm, I'm insanely good at it. I'm like skiing now. And it's like, you don't have to flex on me that hard. I, you know, damn well that I record podcasts.

This is my job. I will say historically, I always liked the idea of could my dad kick your dad's ass like in a hypothetical, like best case scenario, both dads are in like the best physical shape they've been in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like the way this tournament pairing is working is it's going to shape up to be the final fight here is Liam versus my dad. And I don't know who I'm betting on there.

Bet on Liam, baby. Always bet on Liam. I Irish machine never break. Let's do this. Yeah. I also had the idea for, well, there's your problem boxing between me and Roz, but he wouldn't do it. I was not going to do that.

No, because I would lose. Yeah. But, you know, it could be fun. What? It'd be fun for you. Sure. The podcast just gets better and better as you rack up the TV eyes. All right. Here's one. What is the most dangerous thing any of you have had to do on a job? Pass.

While working? No, I mean, like podcasting is just not that dangerous of a job. All of the stuff that I've done before for work has not been that dangerous either. I don't know. I had I had an office chair that was kind of rickety once. I could have fallen off that I could have. Ironically, this is at the at the St Andrews first aid volunteering. But like, yeah, no, I could have. I could have rolled off that and injured myself, I guess.

I had to use sequel real good once. I was very scary. I for me, it was like lots of stuff going around, like on the roofs. Chestnut square. Yeah. Yeah, chestnut square. That was not good. I was kind of sort of edging on this, you know, it wasn't a ledge. It was probably like, why are we doing that? It was long. I was walking along this area where, you know, on the one side,

there was a wall and then there was about 10 feet of roof. And then the other side was like a sheer 200 foot drop. Cool. Just to go just to go plot out locations where we could at some point drop a guy over the side for a visual inspection. You know, so that was that was like, I looked back at that and I was like, hmm, I wasn't tied off to anything. That was pretty stupid. I guess if you broaden it to include not just work when I was at school, I did get a boat cap size on me once. That was cool.

Very nice. But yeah, we had a day where somebody decided they were going to teach us to sail for some fucking reason. So we went to like a flooded quarry reservoir and we got sailboats. And the fucking thing tipped over on me. I got stuck underneath, like under the hull. And because I was wearing the life jacket, I couldn't like really easily swim out and under and they had to like fish me out.

And then I just got like, I got to spend the rest of the day riding around in the like the fast inflatable boat. So that was cool. That's nice. Yeah, sailboats never again. No, no. The thing is, the thing is, if you like capsize it and you get it onto its side, what you don't want to do is let your dumbest friend try and hold on to the mast because they will flip it on top of you.

I was I caps. I was involved in actually a number of capsizes in my rowing career. But, you know, that was that was on like the Anacostia River. It was like five feet deep. Like once you once you fell in, you could like just stand up. I passed your house the other day and I just felt so sad. I was like, all his memories are buried in this bridge. Yeah. 11th Street Bridge in Washington, D.C.

The the abutment was where the boat house was and they tore it down. Yeah. What is your favorite piece of safety equipment? Oh, that's a that's a good guy. You know, I think it's the classic hard hat. But did you know that they make cowboy shaped like Stetson shaped hard hats? Do they? Oh, my God. Can you still hear me? They really do. They are safety rated.

And you still hear me? Yes. Yes. OK. Shut up. Oh, no, you can seriously get like a white Stetson safety hat that like complies with all relevant regulations. So maybe like the fiberglass or whatever. And like if you're in Europe, it kind of like if a guy has that on a site, it kind of signifies that they've worked in the U.S., which is a tremendously funny like thing to me is like, yeah, I'm a guy right now.

Ultral signifier. Yeah. That's so I've I've heard, although obviously I've never been to one that oversees people have America themed parties. And I just want to say once this is over, you know what to do. Invite us to your America party. I'll bring you tobacco products. You can't get in your dumb countries that have never been to the moon. Favorite piece of safety equipment, by the way.

You know, there's the sporting little like neon yellow hoodies. I always. Oh, yeah, those are nice. Yeah, I've his hoodies. Yeah. That are just 95% covered with like shit and mud. Yeah, it's true. They all look like that after like a day. Yeah, you see those for cyclists here, too. Like it's a it's a weird overlap between construction workers and like road cyclists

is wearing high vis stuff. But like because you're cycling like an inch away from like articulated lorries throwing up gravel and shit, they just instantly accumulate like an inch thick layer of grime. It's cool. I love to get to work and be healthy, having like sucked up exhaust fumes and stuff on my and then being absolutely covered in shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've done that.

I think my favorite piece of safety equipment is lockout tagout prevents people from getting turned into ground beef. I saw I saw a really good one of those, which was what I saw. A lockout tagout key that had on the tag if energize this device will blank and somebody had filled that in with explode, killing everyone in 60 foot radius. Hmm. That that is that is definitely something you don't want to do to fuck with.

No. No, like I like to rise as a show leader where it sounds like he's just responding like 30 seconds late to everything. Oh, yeah, because I'm also scrolling through questions while people are talking and my brain refuses to. I'm actually focusing on neither thing while I'm doing. Yeah, boy. All right, let's let's let's figure figure this out here.

What is the least shit European country? Oh, oh, that's difficult. I've never had a bad time in Sweden. I know they're racist. I know they're racist and terrible to indigenous people. It's, you know, but I've never had a bad time there. I've had some really bad times in Belgium. I don't like the Dutch.

I don't like the Danes. I don't care much. We're just going for nice times. The nicest times that I've had and some of the fondest memories I've had are in an extremely racist country. Switzerland. Oh, yeah. No, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had a ball in Austria.

And I just I know they were just waiting for me to like go to the synagogue to beat me to death with a lead pipe. Yeah, you're like in the room at night locking all your doors so they don't come for your teeth. And he was like, no, fuck you, fuck you. I hate that I'm enjoying this. The man with a postage stamp mustache just approaches you in the street. But, yeah, no, when I was a kid, we used to go on vacation to Switzerland.

And like, yeah, no, we used to go around like all around like La Clermont and like like Constance and stuff. And Geneva and Zurich was beautiful, was lovely. I had great memories of it. Also, Swiss, probably most Islamophobic country in Europe. And that's fucking saying something. Yeah, because when I was over there, they had that they had that.

What was it that the advertising campaigns for one of the political parties? Oh, the FTP. Yeah. Yeah, some of the votes, but I know a bunch of a bunch of sheep kicking a black sheep out of the country. Oh, there's a bunch of them. There's one with the Swiss flag covered in minarets, which is cool. That's cool. Yeah, because they wanted to ban building minarets,

which is such a fucking Swiss thing to do to ban something that does not exist in your country. There are no purpose built mosques in Switzerland to the best of my knowledge. But they're like, no, you can't build a minaret as if somebody was going to come along and be like, yeah, it's a minaret now. Fuck you. What if what if what if Imams just start going around

and declaring various towers in Switzerland to be minarets and then they got to tear them down? What points at Schloss all of these minarets? Does frantically start doing controlled demolitions of historic buildings? Well, speaking of Switzerland and controlled demolition, you know that until very recently, all of the bridges at the French and German borders, all of the like highway bridges were mined. Like as part of their general state of paranoia

about the Germans coming in over the border, pretty much like all of the mountains concealed massive expensive bunkers and all of the bridges, they could just like pull those with explosives at any time. Cool. Yeah, that's actually I've read that. I just I really like the idea of like building an entire nation that's just seconds from demolition and the whole thing is just constantly rigged to blow the U.S. We do that, but accidentally. Yeah, no, they did it in a very European way,

where everything in Switzerland is really overbuilt. So like every every house and I think every apartment building had to have a fallout shelter to protect you from all the explosives they put in everything. Yeah, just simply get in the safe room, which is the one room that we haven't mined heavily. But it's it was so expensive. There's a mini there's a mini cannon here on the ceiling.

Let that see from the accountant if you need it. Yeah, it's this was so expensive that the Swiss government, the federal government is trying frantically to get rid of all of this shit. And nobody wants to buy it. But they're like, hey, do you want to buy a bunch of like deep mountain shelters that we were going to shove everybody into if the Germans came over the border in 1997? Just using C4 is insulation in all the buildings.

Yes, the house guts. Hmm, the housemates. On the bridesmaids. I assume that makes decommissioning bridges a very quick process. Don't do this anymore. Just push the watcher. Just push the button. Sorry to turn this episode into like Alice remembers

things about Switzerland, but like they have a lot of weird shit in that country. Oh, yes. Please give us our gold back. How are they in order to give you their gold back? All of the cantons have to do their special thing where they all go and get their fathers, fathers, fathers, fathers, halberds out of storage in the garage, go meet in the village square where once a year they decide not to let women vote.

And then they have to like unanimously be like, yeah, we give him his gold back. It's very New England. At the town meeting, yes. Yeah. Are there a bunch of towns in New England called shit like new new Switzerland or like new burn and shit? Yes, yes. Yes, it's new.

I was wrong. And the the problem with America is not like an imported English psychosis. It's not even an imported German psychosis. You're all Swiss. You're all fucking from up and sell up. That's why you like that, yeah, like to go and shoot the Jews on the weekend. Hated ones. Hated ones.

The the Africans moving to my nice, white community. Please pay no attention to the Nazi gold trade rumbling through on the team. Moving on. You canceled. Yeah, I was about to say. OK, so I my my favorite European country is Italy because everything is broken, but it's fun. Oh, yeah.

It's going to learn from that transport and infrastructure decisions. You know, the thing that you told me about New York is fun. Hell and L.A. is shitty. Heaven, Italy, Italy is fun. Hell, Italy is fun. Hell, everything, everything there is broken. Everyone's drunk. The only reason the great monuments and landmarks there are are as beautiful

as they are because they're contrasted with so much just shit everywhere. Right. And the cops look ridiculous and like not even ridiculous like British cops, but like you'll be getting chased down the street by a guy wearing riding breeches and 14 I get it's like cool. Maybe he's going to have to get into my get into his shitty little alpha Romeo to like drive after me. Yeah, all the cars are broken, too, which is entertaining.

Hmm. Hmm. What is OK, here's here's an interesting one. Which of the three of you could build the highest tower using only things already in your domiciles? May definitely may 100 percent. Technically, a two bedroom apartment filled with various of bullshit. Like you start piling up the Soviet great coats and it goes from there. You know, here's the thing, though. William lives in a three story house and therefore has access to the roof

thereby giving him a 30 foot advantage to start out with. Yeah, but I live but I live in a well, like a five story apartment building. I live in like a glass region, Khrushchevka. Now, I don't technically have access to the roof because like there is no roof access. It's like a flat roof up above the top guy's apartment. But I figure someone in this building has to have a ladder and a hammer. And that means that I can go through that guy's ceiling.

So if we go if we're going that way, then yeah, I can probably do that. Also, I'm pretty certain I live at a higher elevation above sea level. Hmm. Yeah, that's a good point on that one. Yeah, we're not very, I mean, we're not at sea level. But I mean, I could stack the fridge in a bunch of computer cases. I have laying around those computer cases are in my apartment. Though some of them are in my garage now. Do you know that Apple's Compass app has an altimeter now

because I'm going to am I allowed to stack the GTI on its on its end? Yeah, go for it. OK, yeah, as as I sit on my ass recording this with having stacked nothing, I'm already 30 meters in the air. So I so far, I think I'm winning handily. Hmm. Let me let me check. Let me check my altitude. What is my elevation?

Just let me just let me whip out this like vintage altimeter. I got off of a Meg at a thrift store. Alice, for some reason, it is giving me your elevation in that mine when it looked for my location. Cool. OK, we're defeating the surveillance state by making it believe that all three of you, I mean, all three of us are me. I'm Alice Caldwell Kelly. That's right. And you are and you are 30 meters elevated off the ground.

I'm at 28 meters. Ah, cock. What's the weather like down there? Alice, like five to in real life. Five, seven, I'm five, seven, nine. I am taller than that. I have five, two, five, two. If I walk up the stairs, then I would be higher than you.

Yeah, if you break into Miss Venus's apartment and use her to help you stack stuff, you could probably win this. That's a good point, because then I could stick it on top of like the kitchen. Right. Yeah. And get the cat. No, I I. What? Get the cat. I want the cat to get the cat up. Give me the cat.

I I would say I would say Alice probably wins this one, too. Just just by virtue of having a taller building than I think we probably have to concede here next question, please. Mm hmm. All right. Let's figure this out. Hmm. Do what is your stance on Thomas the Tank Engine?

Good. Yeah, I'm kind of I don't know. I watched it when I was a kid, I guess, because it was on before Blue Peter because all British TV is very comical. What the hell is Blue Peter? Blue Peter is a like youth show where like they would do things. It's the only way I could describe it. Like you would I've definitely heard of this before.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like they would have a lot of crafts, projects and stuff, but also they would send their presenters to like go explore the world so that you children could like find out similarly. Like they'd send a guy to go and like the Marines like a salt course or something. Oh, like they bring like kids. Hey, kids, do you want to go kill some Afghanis? Yeah, that's right.

But like there is a lot of ideology in it. But like also the other thing is if you like sent in a way you like helped your community or whatever, they would they would send you a blue piece of badge, which like was cool, I guess. So you could you could get a fun little thing for your for your participation. You get a you get a and then you could wear that when you when you were inducted into the SAS. That's right.

I don't know. I think I think I think Thomas the Tank Engine is good. I think some of the new the new episodes are weird. Have you seen people getting mad about them, though? Like they're genuinely upset about the purity of Thomas the Tank Engine being destroyed by the new stuff. Well, people are mad because it's like, oh, there's some there's some fucking multicultural engines now, right?

What? And and trains other places. Yeah, yeah, they're like it's a train from Africa. It's a train from Asia. It's a train for son and so forth. And it's like, this is supposed to be an English show, right? Or some bullshit. I mean, I'm for rare. Oh, oh, y'all know our jobs. Every single one of the locomotives pictured, the prototypes were made

by Bayer Peacock in Britain. Yeah, but like and Imam has just come up and declared Thomas to be a mosque. And unfortunately, that that that chimney is now a minaret. This the steam dome is now paint. Now has a bunch of Islamic inscriptions on it. Thomas the. No, I can't think of a joke for that one.

Tunk engine. Yes. There you go. Thomas the Tauheed engine. There you go. Right. Do you think more people would be anarchists if they realized that by acknowledging nation states, they give legitimacy to the Netherlands continued existence? Oh, OK, you're talking me out of my like position firmly

on the top left of the the political compass here. All right. Yeah. Liam, it was sorry. Go ahead. Liam and I came into a consensus on anarchism versus Communism a couple of weeks ago. Did we? Which is that? Yeah, which is that states are bad, but bureaucracy is good. Yeah, that's actually true.

Yeah. What you should do is you should have as a full of. You should have a guy doing all of the bureaucracy in your commune. Yeah, the leftist commune where you work 12 hours a day. That's the real answer. Up. Yeah, that's the real answer to that thread that was going around. That's like, what's your job in the commune is like, I do a voluntary DMV. Yes, I am a voluntary bureaucrat. But the Soviet Union's bureaucracy outlasted the Soviet Union.

It's still around. Oh, yeah. Yeah, public transit kept running. The the factories kept running. You can still buy a lot of a lot of the like do nothing jobs. Like the guy who watches the elevator as as Milo Milo Edwards from Trash Future has has like put out because like that was one of the Soviet Union's things. Right. They just gave you jobs to do stuff. So you just have like the escalators in a subway station.

You just have a guy in a booth whose only job was to watch those. And like didn't do anything for went wrong. But like you just kind of sat there and watched it. So Milo just observed it like, you know, those guys are still there. They're fine. Yeah, I just sitting there. You're just watching, watching the escalator go up and down. They're pretty decent jobs, especially if you get like a hat.

Get a little clicker to see how many times it goes up and down. You're sitting there smoking a cigarette, cigarette, reading Prada. What was that? We're going to be single the Cigillolo Cigillolo. I love to smoke a cigarette and read Prada. Look, a sligalette. I don't. Maybe reading the best.

The Polish just comes out. Yeah, I know. Smoking a Cigillette. Which animal is nature's cop? Now, this sucks because we had one growing up that I still miss. And it's also the easy answer. And also I love them. So this is very difficult for me, but it's German Shepherds or like any

of the kind of shepherd related dogs like a Belgian Shepherd or whatever. That now it's a cop. That's a cop. That's why they always make them the cops and shows where animals are cops. Yeah, it's true. That makes sense. And that's why the cops use them. It's like the answer here is a pig, but pigs are actually very clean and friendly.

And like they have orgasms that last over half an hour. All things no cop has ever been. So like, no, it's German Shepherds. I guess like, I don't know. Are there any birds that like it exists? Any like animals that exist to inconvenience other animals? Not even to like eat them or whatever. But just like lots of parasites out there.

I would lose Liam. Oh, no, I'm still here. I was I was I was genuinely thinking because I was thinking like is it an apex predator? You know, things predate cops like Vietnam veterans are traffic stops, heart disease, things of that nature. All of those are predators on cops. So what's like a middle ranking predator that's just really annoying? You know, I guess the problem is that like

all of the stuff in the nation is really annoying. Is it maybe a whitetail deer? Because they simply they simply exist to annoy you. They're pests that are very dumb. This is weird respect for them that I don't really understand. And maybe the answer, the cute or whatever it is. It's respect for the uniform, respect for our boys and brown. It's house cats.

Shut the fuck up. You're right. No, he's right. Right. I know it's house cats. It's house cats. Murdering every bird they see demanding attention just just just constantly. And occasionally, they'll be nice to you. And when they are nice to you, they like obviously want something and expect something from it.

And like, yes, they expect you to be nice to them all the time in return. Assholes, little assholes. God damn fucking cats. I love them. God damn it. If you if you simply go off an extremely high dose of search for them, you can have that exact same relationship with actual cops. But here's an interesting one.

Can you run someone over with a boat? Yes. Yes. Fucking curse. Easy. Yes. Does it count as running over, though? Yeah, it does. Definitely. Yes. It does. It does. If you're doing it on purpose, you're running them over.

Yeah. No, 100 percent. Kirsty McCull is my answer on this run down by was it a jet ski? I mean, I'll give whether that counts as a boat or not. But like, yeah. Hmm. There you go. And there might be a different a different word for it. But like, I was a power boat.

I guess you could say run down by instead of run over by. But I guess you are technically still being run over. Well, yeah, like, the Wikipedia on Kirsty McCull in the section death simply says she was struck by the boat, which ran over her. So I think that that was it. Yeah, that's a real cop speak. I like that.

Yeah, it was struck by in the in the power boat style vehicle. I'm just proceeding in a westwardly direction towards the west. We don't know the location of the vicinity of the premises. We didn't do it. What are you saying? The cops killed Kirsty McCull. I can't believe it. I'm like Fred Hampton.

It was an animal cap, though. It was a house cat. Yeah, it was a house cat on a jet ski. Well, it's actually actually the dog. Is that it was them and the dog from Paw Patrol? Fucking yeah, yeah. I was about to say, some people talk about like Thomas the Tank Engine being, you know,

sort of a Protestant work ethic propaganda. But like Paw Patrol, that's that's fascist propaganda right there. Oh, yeah. Like at some point, you do have to ask yourself when you consume culture these days, what would actually be different if this was the sixth rank in terms of like the TV shows, right? It's like, this is not necessarily a lot now, which is not great. Rob, you probably have a sign off at the end of the day

where they play the national anthem. That's true. Yeah, uniforms would be different. But like there'd be nicer uniforms. There would totally be like a there would totally be like a cops thing where they follow the fucking SS around, you know. Yes. Don't need that.

You think there'd be a Reno 9-1-1, but about the SS. Yeah, just like you think they won the war. Do you think they won the war that like the Nazis would get into a space where they'd be OK with themselves making fun of the SS that way? Yeah, or at least the SS, I think so. I think I think probably so, yeah. The issue is, I mean, you either have, you know, they either have to chill out or fascism collapses as it always does.

I mean, there's there's I don't think you could you could have a situation where the Nazi regime lasts long enough in an incredibly militaristic situation where they'd have a stable society, like they'd probably just, you know, wind up nuking everyone or something. Yes, it's why there's like alternate history books like Fatherland Don't Really Work is or like Man in the High Castle is like it's the 60s or it's the 80s or whatever.

And they're just still going full till instead of doing the shit that Germans who had been Nazis were actually doing in the 60s and the 80s, which was making Mercedes and working for NATO. So yes, hey, but the 380 SL, though. Look at the nice cast. No, I'm sorry, but sometimes you do just get a guy who looks like an actual skull with like an eye patch and a bunch of the Nazified decorations. They're like, no, no, no, no, you must get into F one or four Starfighter

in order to defend against communism. There was around glasses and everything. Yeah, in order to preserve our best liberal values. Why are you saying Western like that? To convey that he was a fucking nut? No, I was I was I was saying this as if I were an F one or four Starfighter. Oh, right. You're F one or four Starfighter pilot voice.

I my favorite thing is that I saw a tweet that had a screen cap of Facebook careers and the woman was like, my family emigrated from Nazi Germany to Argentina with nothing. And I was just like, this can't be real. Please don't tell me this is her name. Her name was Bettina G. And I was like, why is there so much? Gurbals.

Why is there Gurbans on it? It could be garring. It could be garring as well. That is true. Don't hug him. That's Urban Gearing. Every year, the bit from the Simpsons where Hitler is alive in his 80s, living in Argentina and just getting saluted, getting the shopping, it becomes more true.

Oh, God, that'd be a good question to ask, actually. So I'm going to ask it now. I'm going to supersede the curious cat, right? Which is what's the funniest thing that Trump could declassify on his way out the door files? God damn it, dude. I think it's the still redacted CIA files from the the JFK assassination records act that are exempted RFK assassination.

I want to know that money investigating the idea of a Kennedy curse. I got the funniest fucking reply about RFK, by the way, which was like somebody else asked who else Trump was going to pardon. And somebody half jokingly said he should do Sirhan Sirhan. And somebody replied, I don't know, he's pretty dangerous. Like the guy was able to shoot RFK in the ear while standing ten feet in front of him like, you know, someone let that guy out of prison.

Man, man able to bend bullets like in the matrix. Yeah, he saw that movie wanted and just like curve the thing. And they had those guns they made for a while. They like had a bent barrel. Yeah, the Nazis did that. Yeah, the Nazis did it. And then not to make it equivalence here, but also an Israeli defense startup made a corner shot, which was literally that there's.

There's was a glock on a hinge, right? They had a they literally put they put a glock on a swivel with a webcam on it and the and the webcam outputs to the stock. That's that's the most Israeli solution I've ever heard. Yeah, you can only fire it when you're wearing like white capri pants and getting in a fight outside of the worst pizza place in the world. Yes, why is it always in Tel Aviv? What is happening to me?

I like the fact that the Nazis also invented the first night's site and we just don't talk about that. And it was huge, though. Vampire. Yeah, a vampire. Yeah, I'm here. Yeah, didn't have to get powered up of like a power pack. So the guy wore around. I had to like hold it. Yeah, you know, the scene from the small gaisle hit and miss generator.

Well, actually, that's not even the most cursed piece of Nazi electrical engineering, the most cursed pieces that they had. I didn't know this until recently. The fact that hand cranked dynamo flashlights is like, I mean, I guess, obviously, you can't fit like a battery in them with 40s technology. So you just have a flashlight that a guy just squeezes and it makes this awful dynamo noise and you do that a bunch of times and it puts out some light. We have those in emergency survival packs, too, I think.

Oh, because emergency survival packs are designed by Nazis. Yes. Oh, no. We're just unfurling this giant swastika flag. Why is this in here? Why? Why? Why do we have a why do we have a copy of mine? Confin here. Two tickets to Buenos Aires. What? Oh, yeah. You know, the rat lines.

Don't worry about that. So, OK, here is another question. What is everyone's favorite locomotive? G. G. One. Yeah, I'm playing G.G. One. Correct answer. I'm afraid so it did. Yeah. No, it's really really really really really both gone with G.G. One. Yeah, I'm right.

Well, G.G. One. No, I have a picture of you in front of a G.G. One from two separate years there, asshole. Yeah, I know I like the G.G. One is not my favorite. No, I'm here. Here, it's me. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to be I'm going to be contradictory. I like 611. I think 611 is a good locomotive. Talk about being a basic bitch.

Holy shit. Yeah. I am a big I'm a basic bitch. I enjoy a big black steam locomotive. Yes. Red paint. Yes. All right. All right. Let me go. I'm going to find this question. Favorite locomotive non steam addition.

Oh, who cares? Yeah. You already said you like the G.G. One. Yeah, that's that's that's the beauty of my answer is like, fuck you, I don't have to refine it. It's true of all times and of all seasons. Oh, that's right. Now, I like that.

I like the Fairbanks Morse train master. Oh, yeah, you Jesus Christ. It sounds like a Logitech peripheral. Also, honorable mention, honorable mention to Baldwin, 60,000. We're going to talk about that in the steam locomotive episode. We had a slide about that. You thought railway guns were dumb. Wait till you see Baldwin, 60,000.

Hmm. What is. Are you just skimming through and like I'm filtering out all the ones that aren't like abusive? Yes. Let's see. Hmm. I get an abusive one so I can yell at them. Yeah, it's an abusive one. We actually haven't gotten gotten a lot of abusive ones.

I can I can look for an abusive one. How are you doing, Lamp? Oh, I'm terrific. I'm just here holding my mic laying down. I just in the lap of luxury. That's what I'm doing. I just, you know, I will say I do love just to explain Baldwin, 60,000 for a bit.

Baldwin locomotive works of Philadelphia built of a locomotive so heavy that it broke everything and nobody wanted it. So they had to give it to the Franklin Institute and it just sort of sits there. I think because they were just like, oh, bigger locomotives do gooder and they were just like, what if biggest locomotive? Hmm. You should go to the Franklin Institute in a Rio.

I mean, the the Nazis did that with tanks, too. Yeah, we're talking about that of the mouse and the monster or whatever. We love to build a Landkreuzer, which cannot go anywhere. But we're going to build a Landkreuzer. Where it does go, it kind of runs out of fuel. And like a Soviet man comes and like sticks an enormous amount of explosives to it. Yeah.

Well, there's the the one that I can't remember the name that they only ever built a hall and they took it from Britain to Britain after the war for testing and then scrapped it. I've always been fascinated by the the Germans just obsession with like the panzer and just the idea of like, what if what if we took six pounds us? And melted them together? Well, I think I think the answer is what what happens when the entire leadership of a country has massive PTSD from getting shelled every day

when they were like 18 to 23 is they want to like build a gigantic armored machine and live in it. And the fact that like, no, no chemical weapons were used in World War Two. But like a mere 27 years later or 21 years later, really, you just didn't see them again, except being used on the Jews and the Roma. And yeah, American soldiers and Japanese people and Chinese people. But on the Western front, the only one that matters. Yeah, they weren't just firing off shells of mustard gas every day, which like, yeah.

Yeah, they found new and fascinating ways for you to die. They always do. Hmm, like no, nobody ever wanted me. Yeah, I someone has. Hmm. What? Let's I'm looking for the abuse. We got not a lot of abuse. Someone said, if I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?

Who picks these code phrases? It's the IRA. Try to try to warn the British. This is the bomb warning is you just have to sexually harass the cops. You're going to telephone in this morning. This is a shave a spit again. That's a beautiful shout. And look good on my flower.

I who is firm. Who is your podcast nemesis? Sean KB of the other. I'm about to go on Sean's stream after we end this. So I'm fucking around, I'm fucking around. I love Sean very much. No, no, no, no, we'll carry that energy through. I'll just come on the screen and be like, fuck you of our sister,

of our sister podcast. I love Riley very much. But we he's my nemesis. And for another reason that we have incredibly clashing styles. That is true. Yeah. And Riley, if you're listening, I'm going to kick your ass on. That's right.

Yeah, that's but also Sean KB. I'm coming for you. I'm coming. Do we have any like, are there any like numtop podcasts? So there are any like, who gives a shit podcast sometimes. There's the war on cars now. That's that's one of them. Ninety nine percent invisible is sort of sometimes on our turf. Yeah, we don't have to see production values they have.

So people don't want to listen to us. Yeah, exactly. Who else is doing the sort of subject? You know what? The real nemesis is probably engineering video YouTube, like the B1M or something like that. No, our biggest competition is like a poorly cut together compilation of 10 most epic machinery fails.

Yeah, but like, no, I'm talking about like the ones that present like this sort of wiggish view of engineering progress, where it's like, look how great the look how great the hyper loop or this giant highway tunnel is and look at all these wonderful things, which are we're going to have in the future, even though, you know, A, we're not going to have them. B, they're not going to benefit anyone. It's not going to be a future. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, at least at least like someone.

Yeah. Oh, thank you. At least like someone like Tom Scott will be like, hey, here's a giant toxic pit full of mine, chemicals, you know. Yes. But like, yeah, I know, I know the guys you mean, who are just like, yeah, no, everything's going to be fucking. Great. And the shot weirdos, basically. But they're not that fanciful. Two steps down from to here in shed to here in shed is at least entertaining.

All right. What else we go? What if we could get to here in shed on the pod? That would be funny. That would be like that would be our version of getting John McAfee on the pod. Actually, yeah, it's the funny. Who's the funniest guest we could get on? And don't say Elon Musk, because we wouldn't have him. But like, yeah, we wouldn't. We wouldn't have Elon Musk.

We wouldn't turn down his offer. You get Andy Bifert on. That would be funny. Andy Bifert, I think would be hilarious. I always wanted to see if we could get the Pope on. Well, I mean, he's been kind of he's been kind of about to jeopardize his whole shit on Instagram, because he's been been found. Oh, yes. Another post by another ego. So there's nothing wrong with that.

Look, I mean, you know, the pope is not allowed to have an account. You're so you're your holiness. Definitely not part of it. I just feel bad for like the young priest who has to run the account and like forgets to log out, right? Because like, you're you're a priest. You're supposed to do the celibacy thing. You should not be looking at with the best will in the world thoughts.

But like, I don't know. Dick Anderson on here to defend himself. I don't know the corpse of Robert Moses could have a Senate. Yeah, I kind of could ever sign out on Robert Moses. I don't know if the guy who runs the Pope's social media account is in the clergy. And she had to be. He might be a deacon. So which means which means you can fuck.

Thank you, Ross. Mm hmm. So, you know, I figure that there's not there's there's a lot of non non clergy people working at the Vatican. I don't know why the social media guy has to be a priest. Because priests do all of the Pope's other shit, like the fucking Camelango or whatever or the papal household and stuff. They're all priests.

And they probably outsource it all now. Just trying to get Pope taxable. And you just end up on the phone to Kerala. Yeah. What is your best Canada story? Man, I don't even have a Canada story. I don't think I've ever been. I've never been to Canada.

So it's all you guys. You got to rescue this one for me. Remember the statutes of limitations on on traffic crimes has expired. I would say the most memorable. Do we want to tell the story? I think for the first time on air. I had the first time I've ever spoken about this publicly. Which which one?

The time we went to Halifax and everything got worse. All right. Yeah. When we were broken men on the Halifax beer. The last of parents private tears. Yeah. I'll tell this story. This is going to be uncomfortable.

And my girlfriend could definitely hear this, but she already knows what happened. So all right. So Roz and I and my dad went to Newfoundland or we were trying to go to Newfoundland. Right. And we where did we stay the first night? Freeport, Maine.

Yeah. Freeport. Yeah. Freeport. Really, really shitty hotel. We went to that really bad brewery. Oh yeah. Not Maine Brewing.

Even though they were down the road from us because we were tired and we waited an hour and a half for some of the most mediocre beer I've ever had in my life. We saw a guy at the three percenter tattoo checking in ahead of us. No. Remember he had he had to leave. They wouldn't. They he his card got declined.

Oh, that's funny. Yeah. And then we then we drove on and went to that hotel. We drove from Freeport, Maine. Rod said go through the small border crossing. Yeah, I did. I did do that. And then what happened?

And then what happened? We got detained at the border. Yes. And whose fault was it that we got detained at the border? Possibly yours. Your fault. It was your fault. We were detained at the border.

How did you get detained as an international border? They just made us pull over and made us sit on our asses for 30 minutes. I kept asking. Yeah, they were like wind down the window while you come into Canada. And Justin was like, we're going to kill Justin Trudeau. Who deserves it? No, we did that. We did the Main Street crossing from St. Stephen to Calais.

Although, although I believe they actually pronounce it callous. Oh, fuck off. Everywhere in Quebec is mispronounced. Oh, this is in this is in Maine. Everywhere in Maine is mispronounced also. Yeah. Oh, that was that was a trip. We also discovered that that that that convenience store in Maine that does the

we went on the main airline and they have liquor and game way and it's a post office and that's registered makes the sonic the hedgehog noise when you pay. Yes. Yeah. And and then we had to go back to it because of all the list of things I never thought I'd be at again. That was pretty far up there. Yeah.

So we drove on. We got a hotel. Do we even get a hotel in St. John? Or do we just drive? We go straight through. 500 to 72 miles in the fucking dark in the fucking brain with my dad and Roz screaming to keep me awake. Literally just arguing about bullshit for seven and a half hours.

We crossed into Atlantic time and I forgot that New Brunswick and Nova Scotia run on different time zones or whatever the whatever it is. I think it's New Brunswick and sexual wine and like my brain is the line. My brain broke and we had to pull off so I could process that other time zones existed. It was it was not fun. So we make it to Halifax. We made it actually to Dartmouth Nova Scotia where the only thing open was a fucking McDonald's because for whatever reason they closed with Tim Hortons because they're a bunch of fascists.

And then the next day a girl I'd been seeing called me to let me know that she had miscarried when we were in Halifax and Roz and I were at a bar. We had gone to see the Halifax, the Citadel and I remember we were on a pier in Halifax for Canada's 150. She called you in the trailer park boys bar. Oh, did she? Yes. Oh, yeah, she did.

And then we went to the pier. Yeah, no, my bad. Yeah, we were in the trailer park boys bar. That part's true. Yeah. And I was just like, all right, we have to like go home. And we yeah, it was it was unpleasant. We then like the waitress at the pier bar in Halifax.

It was like September felt so bad for us that she just comped our drinks as Roz and I just sort of stared at the ground. And then we got back in the car and I told myself we were going to make it in a clear shot because we still had a couple days before she got back. I by the way, I hadn't cleared this up, but I knew the pregnancy was happening and I was I was going to go, you know, be a dad or whatever. And so we drove my plan in Delirium was to drive from Halifax, Nova Scotia to Quebec City, which is a distance I think of about 500 miles.

And it Edmunds didn't do Brunswick. I just gave out and Roz had to find a hotel on hotwire.com. And then in an act born purely out of decadence, greed and arrogance in the moment of my most meaningful suffering, Roz and my fucking dad made me take their suitcases in. Oh fuck y'all. So we then drove to Quebec City from Edmunds Den. And I forget, did we just make it back from Quebec? Did we go to Montreal for like half a day or something?

Go to Montreal for a very short period of time. Yeah, I have a picture of you just like standing really annoyingly in like a shot of what would have been a good shot. And then I drove and I had to go back to New York to see the girl in question. And it was horrifically uncomfortable for everyone involved. So yeah, that's the story of now the best Canada trip. This is Canada. Welcome back to Canada chat with Liam Allen.

Your can con section. We drove in to make up since we obviously didn't make it to Newfoundland the first time. Roz and I basically vowed to go back. We drove from here to Boston where we saw a shout out to Julian Eldred. Yes, I know the creator of Num Tots. Ha ha. Yeah. And went to a bar in Boston.

And then we went, where did we go? St. John. And we were going to get this. We got this haunted Airbnb. So we had to leave and get an actual hotel room because it was just this lady's house. And it was very creepy and it was not as advertised. So we went to, I got this hotel with the arcade and the breakfast. I remember that.

And then it was recently, it was recently a Howard Johnson, but it was not at the time we were there. Did you do the thing? This was a Howard Johnson. I can tell. You can always tell. Yeah. You could like peel the stuff off.

You could literally, Roz, you ever could just peel the logo off the phone? No, I mean, it was right there. You didn't have to peel anything off. It just said Howard Johnson. We had some fans in my YouTube and St. John. They gave me a book. It was very nice. Yes.

Then we went on to Halifax where nothing bad happened this time. And then did we stay in Halifax and we just drive to the ferry? We drove to the ferry. We drove to the ferry across Nova Scotia, which was harrowing as all hell. And my favorite part of that was that we had a, there's a turn when you're about to get into Yarmouth to where the ferry is, where they've been warning you for 50 miles that it's a 10 mile an hour turn. And I still took it at 40.

And I was just like, Oh, that's why they tell you so you don't go into this wall. I was just driving at 50 for like 10 hours. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's North Sydney, not Yarmouth. Yarmouth's on the other side. Oh, my bad. Yeah. You're right. North Sydney.

You're right. Then we got on the ferry at that Ross almost made us late for. And then Ross had to pee. So Ross had to run out from the car line, find a bathroom, get back in the car. I was going to leave you, man. Real talk. That's the closest I've ever come to just abandoning you. Besides the time I abandoned you in a mechanical closet.

Yeah. Well, you know, the thing is that after I got back, we waited for another 30 minutes. I know we did. How did you almost abandon him in a mechanical closet? I did abandon him. Well, no, his phone was dead and he fell asleep in the mechanical closet. And then he blamed me for abandoning him, but I had told him very clearly that we were playing by top gear rules.

We were in college and we were drunk. Ah, yes. So we get on the ferry. I like just got to tell this whole story, this whole, as I, as I recall it, got on the ferry. Uh, the bar last called 20 minutes after we got onto it. Uh, so my plan was just to get as drunk as possible, pass out and get some sleep was almost foiled, woke up, got off the boat, looked around wherever the hell we are,

which was wreck house. Uh, I had to get gas in a driving rainstorm, which I thought was going to overturn the GTI while you stayed in the nice warm car. Uh, then we went to cornerbrook where some people asked us if we were Americans, uh, went to McDonald's, which we were, which we were, saw the nice little railroad. Shout out to, uh, Newfoundland. Uh, was it Newfoundland? Sean that was on this show.

It was Newfoundland. Sean, yes. Yeah. Uh, cornerbrook. Hello again. Yes. Beautiful railway museum. If you ever make it up there and then we drove tiny one, but it's nice on Newfoundland's

one road. For 13 hours, 600 miles. And you met Trailer Guy, your escort. Yeah. We met our escort Trailer Guy, uh, who once again, if you're not familiar with, uh, well, there's your problem war drove approximately a hundred miles an hour through some of the worst weather I've ever been in in my life. Uh, it just blocked for us.

We got, uh, food at a place called jungle gyms, uh, in, in, in beautiful Gander, Newfoundland. Uh, home of the one speed trap on the trans Canada. Had a, uh, had a, their logo is a picture of a happy alligator, which someone informed me is, uh, cultural appropriation of Florida. Um, yeah. Allegages was famously live in jungle. Yes. So we had done that and then we went and got to St. John, Newfoundland.

Finally, after running off the road twice and almost dying. Uh, then we realized that it was Canada day and all the bars had run out of beer. Uh, went to a nice little Irish pub called, uh, what was it? Bertie Malloy's. And we were the only two people drinking in there. And as we left, they locked the doors after us. It was magnificent. Continue to get appallingly drunk, passed out, woke up at like whatever 12 noon the next

day, uh, got some power aid and some Advil threw up in the, uh, in the drugstore parking lot, went to see the Newfoundland sites, met, uh, Kirsten and friends. Um, and then the next day or other, other Newfoundlanders. Yes. At some point we had agreed that we wanted to go to Sampierre, which is the last French holding in North America is a four and a half hour drive from St. John to where you pick up the ferry. Uh, we did it in about three hours.

Less than that, I think. Because I was doing, it's a route of, uh, it's, it's a stretch of road called the heritage run. There are no cops and the GTI was flat out basically the entire way. Got on the boat where a woman from Tennessee, uh, asked if I was from Kentucky. Uh, then we went to the tiny little French town that's entirely dependent on tourism for survival and nothing was open. Yes.

Cool. Yeah. They, they close all the restaurants down for lunch right after the ferry gets there. That is the most French move I've ever heard. And we went back to Newfoundland and then we drove all the way home. Uh, and we stayed in banger. I hardly knew her main and we saw the only guillotine used in North America. We did.

They, they, that's part of the, uh, museum they don't even charge admission for. You could just walk in and see the guillotine. They actually have a little plaque that just says like guillotine. Yeah. Yeah. Just so you know what it is. Yeah. It was pretty cool.

And you're like, I got to take this back across the border. I'm sorry. I need it for Congress. Yes, please. Never mind me. Never mind me. Never mind me. Just packing it up like flat pack furniture.

This just says IKEA. Why is it cut through its own box? Don't worry about that. We stayed in a, in what I think is hiding behind a truck stop guillotine. Just guillotine sticking out of the sunroof. Right. Yeah. Because I did the thing where I booked the thing on, um, I use hot wire and I

always have incredible luck with it. And they, they, they booked us into a small room with one bed at this hotel in banger. And I called them up and I was like, Hey, do you have any, do you have a room with two beds? I wanted one with two beds. And they're like, yeah, we do. And they booked us into the main lodge. Oh, the presidential suite.

Yes. It was, it was ginormous. It was, it was, it was huge. And everything had flannel. It was flannel everything. Yeah. It was flannel everything. Oh, the lesbian presidential suite.

Yes. Yes. So that's Canada. What's up? What is the next one? What is the next one? Uh, hmm. Let's figure this out.

See if there are any for me. I'm curious. Also, I like talking about myself is the thing. Well, there was a few that were you, but they were abusive. No, give me the abusive ones. I can take them. What's the abusive one? So this is an interesting one, uh, because there was one that

was a few questions later that was like, maybe they're, maybe they're remorseful over it. Oh boy. Okay. I remember that. Yep. I'm the only one who hasn't looked at the curious cat at all. So like,

I was part of you. This is going to be a surprise for me. No. So anonymous as, so Alice is a lesbian, but she's married to a man, question mark. Yeah. People are trans. It's weird.

Yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah. You know, and then they follow up two questions later with, I'm sorry for that personal question. I don't know what I was thinking. Don't worry about it. Yeah.

Okay. Cool. Good talk. Yeah. No, I'm not, I'm not very like emotionally driven by that one. I'm just like, yeah, no, this is fine. Any pro tips or reducing things to soup like, to a soup like imagine it.

Oh, in my experience, there's only one thing that can reduce a mouse to a soup like a marginate and 30 seconds or less. And that's the FIA is homologation committee. Yes. What is our backstory on a rational hatred of the Dutch? Fuck them. They're a terrible country. I think they're better than me.

Yeah. I went, this will give you an example of the kind of school that I went to. We did a history trip, which was like a week long trip where we went to like World War one battlefields. We did genuinely, it was a staff ride, right? Despite the fact that we were all 15, 16, right? And so we, we, we did this stuff, right?

We went to see lots of cemeteries. I saw an ossuary, which is where they cram a building full of bones and that was in metal as hell. And, uh, yeah, no, I, I, I went to YEPA, uh, or YEPA, if you prefer, or wipers, if you want the British pronunciation. And it's, yeah, no, it was a horrible place. It felt like they had just kind of constructed World War one Disneyland.

Um, would you like some remembrance themed chocolate hard sold to you? And it's like, well, no, not really, but like, you're going to keep doing that. And so wait, this is if we're in Belgium or the Netherlands is my next question, because like I kind of undercuts my whole point. If it's in Belgium, although the Belgium also suck.

Yeah, it's in Belgium. Well, okay. Fine. The Dutch also suck. But for reasons I don't remember, would you really notice a difference if you were in, uh, no, the Netherlands or Belgium? Oh, no, the, the mayor, uh, finding out while Googling YEPA,

the mayor of YEPA is named Emily, but her, she spells Emily with two M's, which kind of gives you a sense of the whole place. I don't like that. Bastard. Someone asked, have any of you had any paranormal experiences? I mean, does religion count? Because if not, then no, although I am, I am grateful that

Islam allows for the possibility of the paranormal because you can just write it off by being like, oh, Jen's, Jen's heard a door slam. Jen, uh, seen a ghost as a Jen, probably Mothman. And Mothman is definitely a Jen. Got drunk. That was Jen too. Hold on.

I'll be right back. I may have a paranormal experience. Very recent one. I'm going to get a Coke zero from the freezer. I mean, I will let you know if I have a paranormal experience on the way to or from the freezer. What is your favorite pizza, parentheses style topping close parentheses?

Question mark. Uh, pepperoni. Uh, I ashamed to say I really like Chicago pizza. Uh, I really like new style pizza. It used to be near my old apartment in Philly. Highly recommended. Uh, what else we got? I'm back.

Have you considered that due to your audience, your inbox is going to be filled with nothing but shit posts. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. How's it going? I did not have a paranormal experience while retrieving this code. Have you bought snooze, the complete guide to brands

manufacturing and art of enjoying smokeless tobacco by snooze.com for a bonus episode on the best thing Sweden has done since meatballs, not counting the sob nine, nine turbo. I haven't, I mean to buy that book. I will buy that book. People keep recommending it to me. What state has the worst drivers and why is it Maryland? It is absolutely Maryland and it is because they do not

designate the left lane as a passing lane. The designated as a travel lane specifically. So you get across the line from Pennsylvania to Maryland and vice versa. You grew up in New York like I did, which is only a few miles north of the Maryland line. You will get absolutely fucking obstinate, idiotic Maryland drivers who drive fucking 55 in the left lane because they have

no fucking idea that that in Pennsylvania is a passing lane. It is absolutely Maryland. Maryland is a God forsaken state. The only good part of Maryland is the Eastern Sharon Baltimore. I absolutely fucking hate Maryland drivers. Go Ravens, also suck a dick. How is that Maryland is Virginia's New Jersey? It is.

It's train good and car bad. What about bicycles? Bicycles are for assholes. Next. I never, I never learned to ride a bicycle as a kid and every so often I think, yeah, I've got to learn to ride a bike. This is going to be the year when I, when I do that. And then I look outside and I see a cyclist being reduced to a

soup like a marginate by a delivery truck, like in the sort of snow slush and I'm like, maybe next year. And Liam, tell us about his other cars. Yes. The van is immortal and please don't take this being sick of the van. Give us more van too. I have had in my life a Volvo 850R that I had painted canary

yellow because we never got the yellow in the United States. I sold it. It was the worst mistake I've ever made in my life. I had a 2000 Jeep Cherokee in black that my dad sold for a dollar. Absolutely fucking tank of a thing. I loved it very much. The four liter straight six is the only engine, only good engine

Chrysler ever made. And that's only because I got it from AMC. I had a 2006 Red Mazda 3. Not a Mopah guy. No. 2006 Red Mazda 3 that I crashed and totaled. I have now a Red GTI of my cars. The Volvo was my favorite because it had the illusion of being

safe and it did 143 when you asked it to. Also in our logo, Roz is the guy with no face. Yeah, Roz is the subway token. Yes. Because the subway token is the thing for do not eat 01. To Liam, who is the person you want to punch the most at least in this life. Probably pat to me.

Absolutely. Are you just going down and answering every single question? No, I'm just looking for Liam, bro. To me to me. Sorry. This ends up being an uncontrollable question. Open parentheses. Not my intention to do so.

Close parentheses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

If you want to do it, you should do it. It sucks to do it in a country that's as psychotic about it as Britain is. Also the other thing is that like it doesn't solve all of the other problems in your life. You're just like, you kind of start out before transitioning and you're like, I'm wearing a shapeless black hoodie. I feel crippling gender dysphoria and I'm super depressed.

And then you start transitioning and you're like, well, I'm, I'm, I'm wearing a nice dress and I'm like, I'm not feeling as much suicidally depressed and I'm like, I'm, I'm like, I'm not feeling as much gender dysphoria. And then like a couple of years in you're like, huh, I'm wearing a shapeless black hoodie because that's comfortable. I'm not feeling any gender dysphoria and I'm still suicidally depressed.

It's like it's worth doing, but like it's not going to solve everything for you. Transitioning is just a temporary period of dressing better. Yes, literally. Yes. It's a period where you'd like learn to do eye makeup and then another period where you're like, I'm not going to do that. If you want it like genuinely right.

That's part of the reason why I'm so glad I'm a lesbian, right? It's because like so much of the like high fem stuff, there's so much fucking work, dude. Do I want to like get nails done? No, I want to cut them short like I was doing before and just like also not feel crippling gender dysphoria. So that's, you know, that's, that's what it's like. It's cool.

It's based. It's poggers based poggers. Yes. All right. I, I've, I've taken over bras. There's apparently an Australian actor named Justin Rosniak, which one of you wins in a fight. I looked up a picture of the guy and I was like, I,

I might be able to take this guy on. I'm not really fighting. Rack off me fucking you. Bring back Elevator. He is Australian. He's probably got probably got like a couple of snakes in the bed of his truck or something. Oh yeah.

There's a kangaroo fucking around back there. He's got a kang, yeah. He's got a kangaroo with a gun. Yeah. Bring back. Oh, go ahead. Chris is learning Vietnamese for some reason and one of the things Yeah.

Right. And one of the things he told me after a pro of nothing one day is that the Vietnamese for kangaroo is pout rat. I've been thinking about that ever since. That's what it is. It's a pout. Accurate description. Yes.

No, I was going to tell, I was going to talk about my paranormal experience. Yes. Oh shit. Yeah. So as people may know from Twitter, my heating was out for about five days. Yeah.

And like the terror you started to experience delirium from cold. No, no, you know what it was is I didn't really notice that the cold water was out until just after I was on the podcast with the Trillbillies on Saturday afternoon, right? And during that podcast, we were talking about Dollywood and I described the previous attraction that was Dollywood, the Rebel Railroad and made a joke about our boys in gray, right? Who come to save the day and that particular attraction, right?

And that was right after that was when I noticed the waters out, the hot waters out. Oh, the heat is out too. Shit. Right. So then four days later, I remembered, hmm. I live in a house which is built on the site of Sederli Hospital, the largest hospital for the Union army in the Union, right?

And I was like, hmm, maybe maybe I offended some Union war dead, sort of do a silent act of contrition there. And then like, and then like five minutes later, the hot water came back on. Yeah, that's problem, Jen. I probably, yeah. How many times have each of you been blackout drunk? And if you were a soup, what kind of soup would you be?

How many times have I been blackout drunk? I don't remember. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember. Like these like these Polaroids I've been taking. Like I fuck. I don't know.

I want to say like two or three maybe. There's a list of all the embarrassing things you've done while blackout drunk. What I have to do is I have to get into like a near death experience so that I get the like life review thing. And then I get to see all of the shit that I did when I was blackout drunk. That sounds awful. Remind me not to have a near death experience.

Well, statistically, you're going to have one. Does it count as a near death experience if you actually die? I don't know. Is it like somewhere if you're in somewhere? What do you see when you die? It's your blooper reel. I just see a bunch of outtakes of myself like an old screwball comedy movie. It's like me like mugging to the camera like.

I actually this is this is going to be fun. How do you get on the podcast? I remember the early episodes. He said he just complained at Roz. Yeah, that's pretty much. Yeah. That's literally what he did. A lot of questions asking how this podcast started, which was just as easy to yell at.

And so like literally what I did was I was like, hey, we should start a podcast. And he was like, OK, and then Liam was like, I should be on this podcast. And he was like, OK, OK, yeah. Very agreeable man. We should start a podcast. OK, I'll do all the work. I'm like genuinely like, I'm so happy that Liam that you bullied him into doing this because the first couple of episodes like they weren't funny is the thing.

There's one the Silver Bridge was the first. That was the only non Liam episode. Yeah, and it wasn't funny. Like it was it was OK, but it felt like we hadn't really found our thing yet. And the comments were justly people who didn't like get the format yet being like, why is this dumb asshole interrupting the guy that I want to hear Justin talking? And it's like, well, no, the point is that now we have two people to do it. You know, it's supposed to happen.

And you're like, oh, that's what happens. This is what this is. It's the smart guy getting interrupted by dumb people broadcast. Yes. I have a good one. Any of you actually seen the do not eat fanfic? If so, how would you rate it? I refuse to exist.

I have read both do not eat fanfics. They're OK. Oh, my God. Buddy, you if he is aware of them, I'm not looking to read them. I'm not looking at them. It's fine. No, the one I talk about should be burned. Move on.

Should I just move on? One of them was published in the goddamn Drexel literary anthology. What? Oh, yeah. Which one was that? Was that the one where you got her pregnant or was that the other one? I have no fucking clue. I guess somebody's going to start writing fan fiction about me because I'm still in

the field of jealousy. All right. All right. I will at least explain the more lore, more lore, baby. Oh, my God. We were still in college. This is a while ago. There was a person who was enamored with Roz.

Yes. He wrote some fanfics about him in one of which they had a child. Yes. And then you obey as far as I recall, you abandoned the child. He abandoned my son. Yes. Just like his dad. He loved trains.

That is a line from that fanfic. Oh, my God. Yeah. He had your curly brown locks, which to be fair, Roz has great hair and he does have very pretty eyes. Ladies, ladies, my DMs are open. Five dollars. And the other one I think was that you guys were just like hooking up on the roof, which

was actually a deck number one. She changed it to roof. That's your objective. It was a deck. It was the sanctity of the deck. Yes. The deck at the college apartment was a very special place. You got to have a deck.

I don't even have a balcony anymore. I had one for like two years when I moved up to Glasgow from London. And then first time I've had a balcony in my life because like before that I said like a stoop. And then like now I don't and it sucks and I miss it still. Having a nice stoop would be nice. You could sit there on the stoop. You could be the stoop kid.

Yeah. That's what I was doing in London for like the longest time. It was cool. This is one thing I don't like about, you know, like big apartment buildings is there's no outdoor space that you can really use. You know, this is my like, you know, I like, I like living in row houses and stuff like that because like in a backyard, I get a front porch. Yeah.

The only downside of not having a stoop anymore is like, well, I guess upside I should say the only upside is it made me quit smoking because like I'm like, I'm not going to go downstairs to smoke a cigarette. Spark. Spark. Yeah. But like back when I could just throw the front door open in summer, I was like smoking a lot.

So maybe it's, maybe it's for the best. Oh, all right, hold up. Alice, are you ever going to play Kaiser Reik on stream? Yeah, probably. I guess. I don't know. Like I genuinely like it's funny as much as I like paradox games for some reason I just have no interest in Kaiser.

Right. Like he would keep trying to get me to play it. I don't want to. Is that the one where you make all kinds of fucked up countries? I don't know. Yeah. Well, like pretty much all paradox games of that, but like it's a mod for hearts of iron where the where Germany won World War One.

And so the alternate history there is like, I think Britain is communist. France is the one that goes fascist. Russia's still a monarchy, things like that. And you can just kind of fuck around. Actually, now I'm explaining and I'm kind of selling myself on it a bit more. So maybe I will, but yeah. So Europe developed in the way people thought it would as opposed to the way it did. Like it kind of like it advances the ideas that Germany winning World War One was probably

the thing that historically should have happened, which is kind of, yeah, fair enough. Yeah. Oops, we fucked it up. We fucked it up. America does it again. Just going back and shooting Lenin for doing the revolution too early in the wrong country and inadvertently skewing the whole course of history off. Oh, I have a good one.

How long does it take on average from deciding we're going to do an episode on the episode being published? I've always been curious about that. Love the pod. First of all, thank you for the kind words. Second of all, shut up. None of your fucking business. No questions that have just sort of sat the tank for a while, right?

Yeah. It depends how interested we are in the subject because sometimes one of us will come up with a thing. It's like, hey, do you want to do an episode on this? And we'll record it the next day, right? Yeah. But like other times we'll just, Roz will put something out in the group. I'm like, oh, we should do an episode.

And we're like about what? Now, I don't want to say you can go back and tell which ones were the subjects we were interested in and which ones were us like finding something, but you kind of can. Don't do that, though. There's some episodes that were, you know, it's relatively easy to research. You know, you can get it done real quick. There's other episodes which are not. Yeah.

We pick some obscure ones and like we really do ourselves no favors. Yeah. So like, you know, sometimes it's like, I'd say on average, maybe six to eight hours to put an episode slides together in terms of actual work. But then, you know, so some of them are much longer. They're much shorter. Yeah. We're not.

We're not good at like keeping this organized. You may have noticed as it turns out. Yeah. I mean, we're ostensibly a weekly podcast that we seem to publish about once every 10 days. We'll get there. We'll get there just to keep them on their toes. Exactly.

Someone asked if we'd ever do like a, I guess an anthology episode. I've been pushing for an all Philly episode with like the one Brady and fire just to just to answer that. That'd be fun. But I feel like we end up doing anthologies anyway. Like the Hindenburg thing also ends up being an airships podcast episode. Like as somebody in the comments pointed out with no little affection, we get to the construction of the Hindenburg two hours into a three hour episode.

Yes. Well, I mean, because some of these episodes, you can really only format them this way. This is a, you know, because sometimes there's just not that much information available, especially where it's like the Hindenburg and you know, the thing is, it's like what caused the disaster? The thing blew up and we don't know exactly why. Like if you want something like that, you can go to like the history channel and get a documentary that will pad out pretty much those sentences to an hour. But like all of it's going to be padding.

So you're going to like go and talk to a guy who thinks it was aliens or something. Yeah. And you're going to talk to another guy who's like, we did the sophisticated recreation in our secret history channel lab and show a guy popping a balloon with a pen. Yeah. We used our powerful computer simulation to prove that the thing done blow it up. Yes. It blew up as it turns out.

Roz, what are your favorite city skyline mods? My favorite city skylines mods. Yes. You know, my favorite one is actually the one that turns the chirpy into a news ticker and brings back the SimCity 3000 messages on there. Oh, fuck. That's really cool. I haven't seen that one.

I know there's like a lot more really practical, good mods out there, but that's just one that I like because I think it's funny. I want to hear messages about broccoli and llamas while I'm playing the game. God, I miss SimCity. Like maybe it was just me, but it felt that much more accessible than city skylines because I keep thinking I'm going to play city skylines. Yes, absolutely. And then it's like, oh, it takes 65 hours to set up and also you've set it up wrong.

So like you thought you could specify building styles wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You know what? One of the things, a couple of things that I think made that game feel, I mean, it's certainly modded out to hell city skylines is very playable, but more as like a city painter, not a city builder. Yeah, yeah.

It's not really a game by that point. You're using it as like more of a construction set, you know? Yeah. But I mean, you know, one of the things that really did it for SimCity for me or one of the things I really like about SimCity is the music. They always got real good music in that game. Oh, yeah, that's true. They had like a bunch of like a really good ambient music.

Sometimes I put it on when I'm playing city skylines. You remember the SimCity success that they made in between SimCity 4 and the like really shitty online one? SimCity societies. Yes. Yeah. That was, that was, that's hauntology to me because like I want that example of like, oh, I can actually kind of do policy that has a visual effect on my city, even in like

a cartoony sort of way. I can be like, oh yeah, this is cop town. Everyone is cops. Or like, oh, we're doing the solar panels or whatever. And you can actually see the little solar panel show up. You know, I like that. I want more of that. But it was like terribly executed as a thing.

Oh, yeah. Like it was not done and it stripped out all the other game mechanics. There's no, there's no like, uh, thinking about transportation or planning really. There's no like, there's like, okay, you select some policies and the buildings look different. Not dealing with like infrastructure. Yeah. Yeah. Pipes, electricity, you know, traditional city bullshit.

Yeah. You got to have the pipes. You have to have the pipes. One of the selling points of that game was like, you won't have to lay pipes anymore. It's like, no, you need to have the pipes. Part of the city builder is you got to do the work. Just Googling how to make Sim64 work on computer now, as we speak. It's on Steam.

Oh, shit. Does it run? Yeah, I think so. Huh. Uh, someone, someone asked if we're going to cover Centralia. Yes, we'll get there. That's actually a good example of an episode we've wanted to do for a while, but we just sort of, for one reason or another, haven't really gotten around.

Yeah. And that's kind of the answer to any question that's like, will you do X is yeah. Yeah. Eventually, like we've set ourselves up for a task that like allows for pretty much any conceivable engineering project. We're going to fucking do it eventually on a long enough timeline. We will produce your favorite episode. Oh yeah, exactly.

I mean, you know, we will eventually cover every engineering disaster and then we'll go around to the beginning again and, you know, do some of the older episodes better, I guess. Yeah. Well, once, once we start getting to a point where we have to express episode numbers in standard notation, then we'll, we'll be in a good place. WTP episode 3.8 times 10 to the 52 is going to be about agriculture and then we'll run out of disasters.

And we'll have to do Silverbridge again. Yeah, that's right. We'll do it. We'll do it good this time. But please don't go back and listen to Silverbridge because it's like it wasn't good. It was one of my favorite disasters. It's a great disaster, but the problem is like neither of us had really figured out what we were doing.

So kind of like all answer someone has actually these are two good ones. What is your advice? What is your advice? Jesus wept. Advice for someone who's unemployed loves doing technical projects and redneck engineering but hates staring at dry textbooks or Arizona and don't go to fucking engineering school. Go to trade. Join the army.

Go to trade school. Absolutely go to trade school. Like you're clearly, if you want to get a job in the ship, we're actually doing the work. Fucking go to trade school. Come out making 90 Gs with no debt. And I cannot stress enough. Do not join the military.

It is a thing that like they will try to sell you on the second they get wind that you like like any kind of mechanical engineering. A guy will show up to your house and be like, Hey kid, do you want to join them? No, no. Don't do it. They'll say they'll teach you a trade that you will learn that you will use in civilian life. Don't do it.

Don't do it. No. Even if they do teach you the trade, you won't have the qualification, you won't have the certification. So it'll be meaningless. Yeah. Don't don't join the military. All right.

That's a big episode. There's another one. My favorite episode of this, um, oh boy, you know, it's it's funny. I actually really like, I think the Hindenburg might be the best episode we've done. I think, I think that's probably right. My personal favorite, the one I'm the most proud of, uh, probably either college or the Protestantism episode. Hmm.

I could see that. Yeah. Uh, also, uh, what I'm really proud of is Bo Paul. Yeah. Both of those. Yeah. All right. The reason why I like the Hindenburg one so much is apart from everything else is just

how good Mia was on it. Like. Yes. Like people in the comments have been like, just, just, you know, hire her regularly and I'm like, yeah. I'm not splitting the money another way. I don't know. My favorite one we've done so far was actually the federal express rec.

Um, oh yeah. Oh yeah. I could see that. That was a fun one. Yeah. And it was like a nice kind of clean episode. We got through what we wanted to get through pretty, pretty reasonably, I think. Yeah.

The one died. Never had a nice time. atmospheric railway was another good one. Oh, the atmospheric railway set up so many like enduring bits for us. Yes. Yeah. America's favorite horse viscera related podcast. Yes.

Favorite and only. What's the. If Italy has all the conspiracies going on at the same time, which country is the opposite and has none of the conspiracies going on and is by extension really boring. Oh, country with no conspiracies happening at it. Hmm. You know, I would believe the Netherlands again. Yeah.

Everyone honestly believes all the shit they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. They tried to do operations lady on the Netherlands and it just didn't work. The people just stared at him blankly. Okay. You can put that right next to the box of tulips. Yes.

I'm like, okay, what other countries like, you know, because I'm thinking mostly European countries is where the conspiracies are going on. You know, it's kind of like, you know what? It's probably Saudi Arabia because all the bad shit just happens out in the open. Fuck. That's true. Yeah. That's true.

Yeah. We don't let women drive. We're an absolute monarchy. We murder journalists. We, you know, we depend on selling oil everywhere, you know. Did you see. I think of sports of migrant workers. I think often of the Hillary Clinton tweet when Saudi Arabia announced when NBS announced

that they were going to let some women drive sometimes where she posted like a stock photo of the Saudi flag and she was like, ladies, start your engines. It's about time. And it was such a like, you've come a long way baby thing to do for a Petro state. And it just makes me laugh so much. I mean, what are the caveats there? There must be caveats on when women. Yeah.

I believe there are. The one thing I remember is that like the various Islamic authorities and I used that term very loosely of Saudi Arabia were like, no, you can't let women drive because all of their organs will fall out from the vibration or they'll get too horny. These are equally as bad to us, which is real like going back to like Britain in the 1870s kind of kind of racer. It's cool. It's unfortunate.

We've made the women too horny. We have to make sure that the women are not horny because we want all sexual intercourse to be non consensual. Yes. That's the logic. I don't think what they did right is they did a very democratic policy thing in Saudi Arabia where they crafted a bipartisan compromise where they let women drive, but they also arrested all the activists who were like, you should let women drive.

That sounds about right. Perfect centrism. Yeah. Yeah. Here we are. The ban was officially lifted on the 24th of June, 2018, while many of the women's rights activists pushing for the ban to be lifted remained under detention. Cool.

Yeah. Yep. They just arrested. So I forget who, but someone related to the rise is Penn Station. The station New York deserves. Listen, old Penn Station is the station New York City deserves. I make what we make fun of New York City on this podcast a lot. You know, and we make fun of trad architecture nerds.

I will say the one, the one trad architecture opinion I have is that Penn Station needs to be put up, put back up exactly as it was and there is no other substitute except for at the platform level where you're going to make those platforms a bit wider, right? Which, you know, it could be solved with organizational stuff. You know, this is, that could be a whole episode, right? They're demolition of Penn Station. What time is it? We are an hour and 44 in.

I don't know when we want to cut it. I would say around two. Sure. Okay. 15 minutes to go. How much do you actually edit out of any given episode? A lot. Yeah, just one of the like actionable federal crimes.

Yeah. Honestly, yeah, that is usually my standard. I usually, I mean, like in a three hour episode, I might take an episode that takes three hours to record. I might take 10 minutes out at best. This is, this is very, this is very, there's a very raw sound of this podcast. You get censored, uncut, unfiltered. No feels, only reels.

That's right. Oh, Alice, who wins the fight? You or Alice Cooper? Since I started taking estrogen, anyone wins in a fight with me. Oh, buddy. No, seriously, it's a thing, right? Like not to get too like essentialist about the ship, but if you start taking estrogen, even if you start out ripped, right, you will just lose muscle mass like that.

And there's not a lot you can do about it. Like you can still kind of work out and you can still kind of keep, like you can keep your cardio up, you can keep your like, like aerobic fitness up, but like your actual lifting strength is just going to fucking go. So why people take testosterone as like a supplement for bodybuilding and stuff is that shit helps you lift heavy stuff. My concern is, could you get in a fight with Alice Cooper? Because I've heard Alice Cooper is a very nice person in real life.

That's all I know. Well, I mean, I believe in my ability to provoke anyone into fighting me. Yes, your Twitter feed can attest. Have any of you ever ridden a pacer or had the joy of riding in a class 153? If so, which provider of hearing aids do you prefer the most? Listen, I, you know, I didn't ride on them often because like I moved straight from the southeast to Glasgow, but like I've been in up north, which is south of me a few times and, and ridden paces and those times.

And my answer is if you go for like a center hearing protection, these are center music pro, they work really well against the tinnitus that I genuinely have and I will attribute to the paces. I have never ridden a pacer. I want to, I have seen a pacer. You're too late. They've, they've decommissioned the last of them in, in, in England, I think they might still have them in Wales.

I've seen one pacer in my life. It is at the Connecticut trolley museum in Windsor locks. They got the, they got the old SEPTA pacer. Hell yeah. Ran for like a week. I think they, I think they traded it for a small steam locomotive. Carrots. Yeah.

I know. I was like, I would, I would have kept the shit box. The shit boxes are funny. People are going to be very mad that that question lumped in paces and super sprinters though. Like the, the, not as the sprinters aren't as bad. That's still, how would you even know you can't hear them anymore? That is true. Yeah.

If you drive the pacer first, then it just obliterates all airing. It's like one of those like super high ABV. It's, it's a pallet destroyer, but for your ears. This is, this is not, I'm, I'm looking at what a class 153 super sprinter is. And I'm like, this is not the image that comes to mind when I think super sprinter. No. So British rail, British rail had this branding that they were going to do for like local services like this, that was a British rail sprinter.

And they had a cool logo, which was like the British rail, like a double arrow thing forming a track with a guy sprinting on it. And like these were going to be these new modern things that we're going to keep the, the branch lines that didn't get killed by, by beaching alive and everybody fucking hates them. So, you know, Yeah, I'm looking at it. I understand like the kind of, I guess they must, they, they must have some good acceleration, but not a great top speed, which I guess would make sense for that kind of, kind of service.

But of course they seem to be diesel. I am now looking at a picture of one with a seagull perched on top of it at Bristol Temple Mead Station. Cool. And, and it, it, it, it, I don't know. I don't believe, I don't believe these things can sprint. I just, I just don't see it. If you want to go that fast with something that, that, that blunt added, you need electricity. Yeah.

This brick that we fitted the diesel engine into. Yeah. I'm sure, I'm sure, you know, I'm sure it accelerates very fast, but it's still subway train. I think sprinters were also bus bodies too, originally. I could be wrong, but I think they might have been. Anyway, I moved the mic a little bit. Yeah, still kind of quiet though. Yeah.

This is any better. Yeah, much. We should get you a mic stand. We should chip in to get you a mic stand. I have a mic stand. I just don't have it with me. I, I, I was going to try and figure out how to get Liam a good mic stand for, for being in an undisclosed location.

But Amazon was down. Oh boy. Yeah. Can't say that on the podcast. Bleep out that whole sentence. I tried to get Liam a mic stand because he said, but the, but it was down. Yeah. He was a super sprinter named after Pamela Anderson.

Why? I just saw on the Wikipedia that some units have received names and a 153369 nice is, is Pamela Anderson. Good for her. Good for her. Yeah. Hmm. Justin, as somebody who also attended Drexel University and studied civil engineering,

I feel like the program honestly taught me nothing about civil engineering. Will you please, please validate my fear that I have wasted literally $100,000. I would say yes. I mean, one of the things that I don't understand about civil engineering education is I think, you know, what, one of the things you should learn in civil engineering education, you know, the equations are good, you know, the, the, the concepts of, you know, how to design kinds of structures in an abstract sense, you know, this is good, right? But you really get through, especially undergraduate civil engineering with a series of unrelated

concepts about like foundations and structural steel and stuff, but you have no idea. You can't look at a building and say, okay, it's probably built this way. You don't know, you know a lot about structure, you know, a lot of math. You don't know how to put up a building. Right. What you've got to do is you've got to go back to the 19th century thing where you got a West Point to learn all of this stuff. Yes.

And then immediately resign. Yes. Honestly, yeah, I feel like that's a better system. But I was like, that was back when, you know, basically everyone could figure out, okay, here's how you build a house. You put up some brick walls, you put some dry sand, boom, done. You know, today, today, you know, you'd look at, you'd look at something like that at, but people can't comprehend of the idea with brick walls with joists framing into them.

Right. It's totally foreign, foreign concept of these very simple structures. And I feel like knowing how like existing structures are put up is like good, good knowledge to have to help you understand more specific technical concepts, you know. I never understood why, like when I went to Drexel University, like what did they do? The first year they had you make Lego robots. Cool. As a, which was cool.

Yeah. I remember that. I remember that. Second year, we did financial engineering, which was a stock market game. I was on a team, which, you know, completely ignored all the normal accepted strategies, which was invest in tech stocks. And I invested in railroads, banks and oil companies. Yeah.

You're playing a tycoon game. Yeah. And we came in third because tech stocks did really badly that quarter. Third year, you seem to start to come into like some actual engineering concepts. But I'm like, I've been at this college for three years. I've done two co-ops at this point. And it's like, I've learned a lot more on co-op than anything else, which is, you know, how buildings are put up, which I think is like a large, a large part of civil engineering

is how buildings are put up and how roads and railroads are put together and bridges and tunnels and stuff like that. And it's like, they don't start there, which I think would be a smart place to start, you know? You don't really start with the fun stuff either. I mean, I understand it's supposed to be a weeder course, but, you know, which I think is honestly, like in this age of education costing as much as it does, weeder courses are immoral.

You know, it's like, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to. Especially when everything else, you treat it like a business, you want to treat it like a business. So like just ask me about your own logic. Yeah, I'm going to pay $40,000 to come to the school to learn civil engineering and they're going to shove me through, I don't know, calculus three, right? And I'm going to, I'm going to fail. I'm going to drop out and I'm going to be $40,000 in the hole.

And I understand if like education were like a public good and you didn't have any financial downside, you know, then maybe, you know, let's only take the smart guys, but right now it's like people are taking out these huge loans to go to do STEM education, right? You know, it's, it's, and you can't just, you know, you're condemning people to debt with no useful education. If you have these weeder courses, you know, maybe you should just, maybe you should just structure your course. So, you know, your basic dumb guy can come in and say, Hey, I can become an engineer

if I apply myself moderately. Yeah, there's no, there's no room for like mediocrity anymore, which sucks. You want some guy who can just build a building competently and isn't going to like set the world on fire. You know, right? I just want to be a dude, you know, just want to be a dude hanging out. I just want to be a guy being a dude. Yeah.

That's right. I might have to get sued. We got time for one more. I think. Yes. Okay. What is, we need a good one for the last one. Mm hmm.

Hey, Alice, can you print a Pennsylvania secret service card for my grandpa? Putting, putting my head in my hands. Weeping to yourself. That's right. That's right. Hmm. What are your favorite fictional engineering disasters? Towering inferno.

Hmm. It's cool. It was based on reality, though. Does that count? Well, okay. Yeah. 9 11. Well, bye everybody.

All right. That's a good enough place to end it as any. I'm Alice Coldwell Kelly. This is Justin Rosniak and this is Jean Baudrillard. Yes. Oh, we, we, we will be recording. I don't know what's next. What's next?

Steam locomotive bonus episode. We're going to, we're going to try and do that maybe this weekend. Yeah. Let me know. I should be able to do that. Okay. And then, yeah, we should have a couple of, a couple of good ones coming up in early January after that.

But, but first the Kobaneros. Yes. Obviously. Next is the Kobaneros. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I got to go eat.

So, so forth. We should do this more often. Yeah. We'll do this represent 100, but we'll, we'll tell the audience what questions to ask this time. Yeah. We'll just tell them. We're pre-screened the questions.

That's right. I hope you're all feeling very parasocial now. Yes, exactly. Don't, if you come to my house and try to talk to me, I will shoot you. Castle doctrine. Castle. Baby. All right.

Bye everybody. Bye. Goodbye.