Well There‘s Your Problem - Episode 84: Military PowerPoints
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Who cares let's do a podcast. Yeah, I was about to say
Yeah, listen, what are you doing after this? It's so important. Well, welcome to well, there's your problem doesn't answer
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Disasters with slides. I'm Justin Rosnack. I'm the person who is talking right now. My pronouns are he and him. Okay, go
I am Alice called for Kelly. I'm the person who is talking now. My pronouns are she and her. Yeah, Liam
Hi, I'm Liam Anderson. My pronouns are he have and we have a guest we were gonna have to but then one
died. Yeah, Nate is unwell and sends his apologies. So we have one half of what a hell of a way to die. It's Francis
It's Francis. I'm the one talking my pronouns are he him
This is never a thing that I've had to do on a show. That's very exciting. Do it to make the gamers mad. Oh, yeah
That's that's exactly why I did it. I've I managed to piss off a lot of Marxist Leninus today
So I'm here
I'm proud of you. That's my boy. Did you say that China wasn't perfect? No, I said that
That arguing about reading books is dumb. Oh, well, that is true
I mean, but you know because I mean the entirety of of Marxist Leninism is surrounded
Yeah, if they didn't spend so much time arguing about reading books, they could read more books
Productive use of time what Marx failed to predict was the transformative power of the slideshow
The format of our podcast and the subject of our podcast
We're doing a show about how our show is actually bad
You idiots keep giving us money and we don't know why
Well, I I'm surprised that you know as a show that relies on PowerPoint
You haven't done an episode on terrible PowerPoint yet, but I guess it's not technically engineering
It required me to come to you and be like
This is this is an insane thing that we do in the military
I don't know if it's an insane thing that's done in the civilian world, but the military
We have a hard on for the fucking PowerPoint. It's weird. Mmm. I
kind of believe that like the
The upward trajectory of PowerPoint coming out in 1996 glues itself directly to the upward trajectory of the war on terror
You know from the from Oklahoma City straight through Afghanistan and right on up to right now, you know, we've got
We've got 20, you know 25 fucking years here of
PowerPoint and and PowerPoint in the military the problem the problem with the military is that the military understands that soldiers are dumb
And they make it really really really easy
by
Creating field manuals and technical manuals if you want to know how to wear a uniform
There's literally a book that says exactly how to do it. Yeah, you're trying to steal Valor you just go and pick that up
Yeah, six AR 670 dash one army regulation 670 dash one go crazy steal some valor
But make it look good, you know stack your ribbons correctly, but there is no training
Nothing on PowerPoint yet. We are all expected to use it on a regular basis
Like it's just it's just a given that at some point in time when you become a sergeant
You are gonna have to create a PowerPoint presentation because you're gonna have to
Explain something to a bunch of soldiers and the best medium
But when I say best, I mean the laziest medium is a computer that hardly works that takes
40 minutes to log into because army network suck and then to build a PowerPoint for a
PowerPoint presentation and then read the slides directly to the people and that's what we're gonna do for you
Exactly by the end of this you'll all be prior first classes
Upon the completion of this podcast, I'm gonna mail everyone a gun
I
Don't say they're all the P. O. Box. We'll get the law
For the postal worker when they finally had enough
I'm gonna wrap it but not in a box
It's gonna actually look like an M16 just like wrap things directly around wrap the trigger by itself
Just a little bit of a Christmas paper
What is it? This is the ACF's new most listened to podcast
Not for me, man, I'm in Missouri and guns are guns are really easy to get a hold of here
I always I always think about 3d printing. I'm just like I can just literally buy a gun for anybody
It doesn't 3d printed guns, right? Is the like even when the people who like them and I mean really like them are right
They're still so annoying that you're so good to be wrong
There was there was this thing right about this this 3d printed gun guy in Germany
Who died and like there are lots of like a sort of weepy tweets about this
And the way that he died they're acting as if he was martyred the German cops where he lived
Raided his apartment because he kept 3d printing guns and he had a heart attack and died and
I will not apologize for thinking that that's extremely funny
No, that's why like that's before we get raided by the ATF
Have to do the goddamn news
Fuck shit
Okay, I set shake hands with danger to fade out when I pressed instead of the news
Professional podcasting right here a man has
leaked classified
Information about a tank on a war Thunder forms in order to win an argument
I mean not the first time this has happened this year in fact
It happened with it was another war game, right? I don't remember which one it was
Thanks, baby. Well, thanks. Yeah. Yeah, some guy leaked a classified like field manual for a tank in order to win an argument
that the developers were portraying this tank incorrectly which like is kind of a you know
You kind of have to give it to them for not getting that right by guessing because it's literally top-secret information
Like and and honestly at this point if they did upgrade a tank with those with that new information
I feel like war Thunder is now like
privy to handing out
Classified information to the rest or to a bunch of nerd gamers is just like well now
They know we've used the JP8 and you know, we do the I don't know fucking inside of tanks or anything
But like it's always some weird nerdy shit in the middle. It's not like how big is the gun?
How fast does it go which is like actual tank stuff that matters? Yeah?
It's like it's a measurement of like some millimeters from one thing to another thing that means nothing to normal people
But if you've become one of the sort of like gremlin hobbit motherfuckers who lives inside of a tank
Then this means everything to you
But I spent 20 years in the army and the most irritating people in the military
Well, not the most but one of the most
One of the most irritating people are all the armor people all the dudes that are really into tanks because like you know
A gun is is obviously an extension for a penis, right?
Imagine if you had a main battle tank that is now at the extension for your penis
So there's a lot of swagger that goes on
But now what we have is
Smells like poop, right?
We have somebody who is like that already and then also like that on about computer games
And I know a lot of fucking tanker nerds that that play
Warts war thunder or world of tanks or whatever and there's a lot of complaining about it and
Goddamn if I just don't give a shit
They're tankers man, they don't have real feelings
Oh
Reminds me of
So back when get smart was on television Wow
So, you know, they had all the all the classic like, you know gag
You know secret spy stuff like the cone of silence like the shoe phone like a whole bunch of other wacky stuff like that
The Havana syndrome right
They actually got a call from I think the CIA because
They were actually working on developing some of that shit and they thought they had got something had been leaked
This happened
Call to like you know, I'm going over Hollywood producer
You've been just snorting lines for the last 10 to 14 hours
Some guys just like our
What do you know this happened with the most boomer form of gaming newspaper crosswords because
in advance of
Operation overlord the Normandy landings in 1944 a British
Newspaper crossword kept using clues that had been randomly selected code names for different aspects of the operation
And so they had to go and interview this like I don't know fucking 80 year old Oxford
Don or whatever who was sessing crossword clues and just like why did you pick these random words?
And it was pure coincidence. It's just there's only so many fucking random words you can pick in English
Radio station and accidentally overtake all of the number stations and suddenly
Yeah, I'm gonna set up my own a.m. Radio feed and start playing my my weird chiptune stuff and then start World War three
Chiptune version of the Lincoln Chip Hoature
Operating off of off of Cyprus. Yeah
Good Lord video games for a mistake. Yes
Fortunately video games for a mistake tanks for a mistake armor culture was a mistake
You live you live in a minivan and you live in a minivan
We should just do the Lord of the Rings thing and just fight with swords and shields for thousands of years because
Technology does not
Like warfare piqued with dragoons as soon as you get on a horse man, I'm out
You're on a horse your cavalry, you know what you are your little bitch get down
Find me like a man
A Pc rolls up and it's just guys on horses come out the back
Can you fit inside an almond
Prussian carrier, yeah, it's got a big spike on top
All right, that was the goddamn news
That didn't play twice. Yeah
So let's talk about PowerPoint
Yeah, you wrote these slides and the slides are a selection of
Horrible military power points, right? They are and and I and can you so I can you
Maximize it so I can see what our boy is like I just see a grainy Rambo
I need to see grainy Rambo larger you may need to like follow along in your own copy of the
handout here
Should be maximized
Something you have to do on your end. I'm pulling it up right now
All right, so we are we starting with with Rambo are we starting with the screaming Air Force guy?
I kind of like starting with Rambo because like this is so
It's so low resolution and it's like I have taken the first Google images result
And I have edited that
Now I want you to also read the top. This is a jag of pre-deployment training. These are the lawyers. Oh, no
Oh, no, this is how not to do war crimes
Or this is how to like, you know, um understand war crimes and uh, possibly cover them up. Who knows?
I don't know. This is the only the only image I have from this this particular one. So, um
You know, everybody loves the the image of Rambo
Or the Rambo 3
Dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters, which technically never existed, but it's very fun to imagine it did
However, yes, however, we love Rambo. We love, uh, we love killing soviets and man
If there's one person who
Exemplifies all of this it would be it would be Rambo
I have to imagine that this is probably from like
2003 or something because like because nobody knows like
Let's be honest. If you get a room full of fucking 25 year old privates and
Uh lawyers who are lieutenants and stuff. Do any of them know who the fuck Rambo is?
Like, is that fucking sure Jesus Christ is a cultural touchstone
I like very much that this is like the question slide the thing that you put in last, right?
And so all of these this is this is a sort of a rare attempt at military humor in an official capacity
So it's not like the jokes that soldiers tell each other
It's like the joke you can get away with at the end of the presentation to try and lighten the mood
And also, this is a very good question that hopefully they covered in in here about, you know, the moot Mujahideen
the Taliban
The difference between al-qaeda
Isis maybe depending on what year this is, but no, I'm sure this is just like somebody
Slapped this up in microsoft paint and threw some word bubbles onto it
Get a cheap laugh at the end of a kind of a dry subject matter
I'll survive and you a soldier's guide
Oh, yeah, like
Largely the the u.s. Military is built on duct tape and iphone.co. I was about to say, yeah, they stole this from funny
That's critical infrastructure actually
Yeah, all the all the meme generators are actually on military servers
Oh my god, okay, so this is a little kind of insubstantial for the next one
Oh boy, I could talk about this one for the full hour. This is this was called the spaghetti and meatballs diagram by a lot of people
And this is a diagram of how to win the war in afghanistan
And as stanley mccrystal once said when we understand this diagram
He was joking in his defense. We will be able to win the war
And here we are
So if you actually look at this thing, this is like things these are like things that people want a government to be able to do
Right, but it's divided up into into sectors and then all of those sectors are mushed in together
Because they have linked every possible thing they could link
Now I the the thing is is that the end product is insane, obviously
And I really like if I could get anybody onto my show
Regarding slide shows it would be whoever had to create this
Whoever like because this isn't random somebody
Somebody had an idea here. They had a workflow. They had they were linking things
So you got arrows going all over the place and and and I got to be honest
It looks like for as much of a mess as it is. It looks very clean
Unlike many of the slides that you're going to see that have like all fucked up formatting issues and everything
But this like it doesn't make sense, but it looks good. Kind of like it's it's perfect staff officer brain
Is what this is
This is the kind of person who like goes home and designs a tabletop war game in their spare time for fun
Yeah, this is the guy. This is somebody who's like, there's not enough rules and boar hammer 40k
Well, this is sort of um, I think one of the one of the fundamental things with powerpoint, right? Is that um, you know, it's it's very bad at um
What's the word communicating complex ideas, right? Right because it's not really what it's designed to do
Well, it sort of makes people simplify. They're thinking to fit in bullet points. Like that's one of the big ones
I'm just sort of quoting liberally here from the cognitive style of power point, which is a
Old essay from an IBM guy about um, how power point messes with people's thinking
Um, now this is I think kind of gloss houses there once you get there for the cognitive structure of IBM
Yeah, that's true
First find a punch card
This is sort of like I mean when you think about this as something presented in a power point like okay number one
Who's looking at it? Are there are are they able to read any of this, right?
Number two is how long is this up on the screen for?
Does this convey any information at all in the power point format?
You know, it's not it's not very clear
Why you would put this very complex diagram onto a power point presentation?
This might make more sense if it were like a handout people could look at for a while
Right, um, you know if it's up there on the screen far away
Oh boy, this sort of like they never use vizio in the army
No, because vizio costs too much money. Okay
But there is a sort of like broader strategic point to this which is this is like the sort of macnomarization
of uh
Of like american defense policy, right is you have to have measurable goals
You have to be able to put all of those goals into a big
Spreadsheet and then you punch all of those in and you get the right answer
Which is you know a secular liberal democracy in afghanistan or whatever
Yeah, this and and the the creation of this it just reminds me of what the last time I was in iraq and the first
ID came in
And there is a sergeant major that like the commander wanted this like
Every time a new infantry unit takes over an area in in iraq or afghanistan
They want to put their fucking marks all over the place. So his was uh, they wanted this like a syrian
like symbol of iraq which is a uh, the the face of of this syrian king and the body of a lion and
The wings of an eagle or something like that. But like this this this sergeant major kept coming back
Because the image that I found stole off the internet and then put onto this thing as I as is how most of my uh powerpointing does
Um, it didn't have it didn't have a dick pouch on the bottom of it
fuckers
So, you know, like you look at the underneath a male horse. It's kind of it doesn't have the dick necessarily hanging out
But it's got a dick pouch. It's kind of like hanging there. That's where you know the dick comes out of like he
They wanted the command the the commander
Or some officer somewhere was demanding that I make this
thing look more male by like
Putting a dick pouch on it and I swear to god
I had to photoshop a dick pouch onto this and it's one of those just like look man, whatever the fuck you want
I just want to leave right now. I just want to go home. I want to go back
I want to go back to my chew. I want to smoke cigarette
I want to fucking drink some bootleg wine and go to bed and not think about this dick pouch anymore
And that's what I feel like this is this is coin dick pouch right here
This is some lieutenant or some captain was just like fucking whatever here. You want it all in there? There it is
Enjoy. Goodbye
Well, I had some sort of consulting group to do this. Oh, yeah
Yeah, there's a consulting group thing down in the corner here. Oh god, so it wasn't even like uh,
It wasn't even an officer
They had a mckinsey guy come in to do this to present this to them
Let's probably yell with the mckinsey guy to do it and he was like, all right
And he he billed them like 48 hours at a rate of like
$10,000 an hour to put this one slide together. It's good work if you could find it
I'm just kidding
You know, it kind of makes sense because it looks so clean that it couldn't have been done by a soldier
Wait, did did pa consulting make this or are they just like highlighting this?
Like that this is there
They produce the fucking I'm looking this up. They did make this
I think just incredible and they have a thing on their um, they have a statement about this afghan spaghetti graph
Um, they have a statement on it. Oh, yeah. Do you want me to read their pr statement on this 100%? Yes
We thoroughly agree that thoughtless use of power points is pervasive and corrosive particularly in over reliance on dot points and oversimplification of message
However, ours was far from being over simplistic using instead a well known technique
System dynamics to review a highly complex situation
Unlike linear thinking the default mode of the human brain system dynamics thinks about repercussions and occasionally unintended consequences
You don't understand this because your squishy human brain is too fucking the chart was published without context
It was designed to be part of a broad briefing where it was slowly revealed alongside a verbal description of each major element
The chart with its attempt to grapple with complexity was a dream for those wanting to respond trivially
But do but do we really want simplistic philosophies to win out in defense thinking?
Or do we want strategies developed that take no account of complexity?
And the sometimes counterintuitive outcomes of well-intentioned actions
So, I mean, there are essentially is thank you resignation letter. Oh, you're too stupid to understand this
Well, while you're being too stupid to understand this, we're busy winning the war in afghanistan. You're welcome
I can see the shout out to mayor pete for this one. Yeah
Yeah, you need a mayor pete brain to understand it
though
I could see this making a lot more sense if
As they say this was revealed slowly over the course of the whole presentation as opposed to just
This info dump right in your face that you can't make heads or tails of
um
I could if there were like a talented presenter
Which is you know another another power point thing is that you know a lot of times, you know, the power point itself is sort of um
A a substitute for any talent on the presenter's behalf
Yeah, it's kind of a crutch. Yeah, exactly. See also this podcast
Well, I mean see see also every meeting in the united states military
Like if you if you are going into a meeting in the army like somebody has to present something
100% you're going to see a bunch of power point
Like even if you even if it's like, oh, we're going to do medical training
We're going to teach you guys how to you know, bandage up ahead or whatever
There's going to be a power point even if you have bandages to fucking do the band the head bandages in because you've got to
like
Well, like you say they don't teach people to present anything
They don't teach they don't teach you how to use power point you um and you get shit on if you don't do it
Right and and I'm going to tell you that public speaking and leading a meeting
Is not something that everybody can do and you shouldn't expect everybody to do it
I you know, there are plenty of people who in the military who
Don't go very far because they're not leadership material
And that's fine
But it means you can't advance in the military if you don't take a leadership role and it's the same kind of thing here
You don't get a whole lot of
This doesn't this training doesn't come around for you and it will hurt you if you're not
Properly trained in it and nobody's going to train you in it like I've been I've been the classes to teach me how to write memos
I've been the classes to teach me how to write stories for the army
But never anything of here's how to do a power point presentation. Maybe they do something now
I haven't been to any real classes for the military since like 2014
But like power point has been around since the beginning of the afghan war
I feel like there should have been some kind of training in it. Just you know a here's how to talk to people
Here's how to run a power point presentation
They spend more time. So here's a really fucked up thing
Um, there's this thing called a safety brief, right?
So the safety brief is a thing you do before you do anything where like
Oh, we're going to go out and fucking qualify on our rifles, right?
We're going to do our shooting and everything the safety brief beforehand is all right. We're going out. Here's uh,
Here's the things that you need to watch out for
Weather wise gone wise. Um, we're going to be out here. Here's where the bathrooms are
Here's where the combat lifesavers are if there's a problem
Here's you to call if there's a big problem if there's fire on the range
Like, you know, just the random fire just catches like it does sometimes out in the middle of nowhere
In the year of our lord 2021 in america, you know, if any of these things happen
You have to have a fucking safety brief before a power point presentation
The safety brief before the power point presentation has I have been given more information on how to do that
It's called a risk assessment where you have to say like, all right. Well, if there's a fire in the building
Here's where the exits from this literal classroom is which like just look
There's the projector falls on a guy then
Right. Here's the here's the uh, the splints in case the projector falls and breaks on breaks somebody's leg
But you know, you have to tell people like oh watch out for
You know cords on the floor don't trip over them
Those are trip hazards if you feel like you're falling asleep. You have to go stand up in the back of uh,
Like they asked you just like if you if you're falling asleep at your desk
Get up and stand in the back and like you know a really good power point presentation
When there's like half a dozen dudes standing in the back
Doing that leisurely lean against the wall kind of thing where it's just like I can take half a nap over here
And nobody can actually yell it before it. Yeah, I'm getting micro sleep. I'm like torturing myself a little bit
Can we talk about this next slide?
I'm skipping ahead a little bit. This is interesting
We've got a couple of things here. We've got some some triumphs of military graphic design
Oh graphic design is my passion
But also we have some unit pride and I love unit prides. I love unit cohesion
I love to like basically nickname my unit of janitor's warriors of the pacific and give us a big cool logo
I like these are
So these are marines because they've got the the bulldog
Bulldogs with vampire fangs. I don't get it, but sure
But yeah, this is like that image
I guarantee that that image was created and has been put on so many things that people are so proud of
It's like we're the the warriors of the pacific. I don't know where these guys are out of probably okinawa or maybe south korea probably
I don't know about the
The rock is on is probably south korea
but like
The thing at the top just how to find your computer name is like the most boomer ass shit
capitalized after some reason lowercase y
capital c capital n
Your
Yeah, get the casing right. I'm glad that they got the right yore on there. All right. Yeah, this is true
I don't like the um the way this has been
Uh justified in such a way that name is on its own line. Yeah, I like that probably should have uh,
You know separated it, you know somewhere. I forget the line breaks
I love I love the the sidebar so that you know the knowledge is the key
But then there's a picture of a a lot, which is
It's unlocked already. Yeah by by your knowledge. Um, you know, I got this nice gradient here
You know, I had a little bit of style. Yeah
And this is improper title case though
all of these things all of these things are created by dicking around on on um
On that on powerpoint and then just being like, yeah, that looks cool
And then just running with it and you know, I'm I'm not gonna dog anybody for not knowing what their computer name is
That's you know, you have to have like kind of a a little bit slightly higher level of knowledge of a computer
but like just the entire presentation of this of
This angry bulldog and these these um artillery pieces ready to fire
And it's just like we're gonna send a fucking message to the Chinese and that message is here's how to find your fucking computer
Now this next one
Let's look at like the opposite direction. This is an actual picture of a soldier making a powerpoint
I call I call this uh checking her instagram at 2 a.m
I love ghost recon 2 advanced warfighter
Like the the great thing about a lot of these graphics is that they they try to portray like the military that they want
Like the you know, the the donnell rumsfield you go to war with the military height
You have not the military you wish you had if you wondered what ever wondered what's the military you wish you had
It's this guy with his weird computer cyborg eye looking at five different tabs of twitter
You see there's um matrix, uh code dropping down in the background here
Yeah
He's got flying toasters on one of the uh on one of the screens
I like how they're overlaying each other like like photoshop layers like he's uh, he's doing some you know, there's books where you uh
Move the the clear thing you can see the skeleton and then the uh, the uh muscles and then the yeah, that's what we're doing
Except it's porn
It's really convenient to be able to have to like to have to do the minority report like swooshing through
File folders and stuff in like a hundred degree heat
Yeah, and and in reality this wouldn't work because they're
You know, you probably wouldn't have the correct batteries for it because nothing in the army runs on normal batteries
You always you always have to order some weird fucking lithium battery from
You know god knows where and it takes six months to show up and then you plug it into your shit and then find out it
Doesn't work anyway
But I also like I want to know like is this guy just dropping down in the middle of afghanistan to
Pull this up like he's on the totally bare hillsides. I was about to say it's not a conspicuous target at all
It's okay. He's got he's got digi camo which blends in with computer technology
We can't shoot the soldier because he's got so many of these screens floating around
We just don't know where he is
Yeah, his his uh, he was his life was saved by a tab. He had open with the bible.com on it
Yeah, but if he opens one more tab the whole thing crashes and everybody's gonna see him
Fucking google chrome. Sure. I knew we should have updated from four gigs of ram
Now we have we have another example a very similar one
But with an extra feature of arrows of things that don't connect to other things
Yes in any meaningful way
Is this this whole server room is contained in that tablet?
I I think it's great that they let him go to so many modern miracles
I think it's cool that they let him go to the war in like low-top sneakers and like high socks. That's cool
Tactical knee socks. He's like blouse his pants into his socks too. Like is that repeated the second one?
Also, this is like a some sort of lithuanian
Camouflage pattern. I don't know where they fuck they got this from
But it does say artist concept down in the bottom just in case you were concerned that this might be real
Good good to get to know top image. Look at this sick shit. I found on board, huh?
Which if if the military had nothing but unlimited connection to the to the internet and each other 100% what would you be doing?
Descending nudes back and forth
What else are you gonna do, you know, just listen sometimes you have to open your perfectly square tablet and then compress a server farm
um a bunch of computers
And a guy looking at porn hub on a tough book into it
Man, I want to talk so
To be honest, that's how we really thought that we're gonna win afghanistan
What if we gave it? What if we gave all the afghans porn wouldn't that make them happy?
Yeah, but ironically you showed this to like ashura of afghan leaders
It was like gosama bin laden downloaded a shitload of porn. Oh, that's true
How many 9-11s did he do after he did that?
We can't be sure. Well, I mean, hey porn hump didn't really exist in 2001. So I don't know
Where was he getting his porn back then vhs tapes again did like dvds with dvds even a thing by 2001
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, uh a video disc. It was a laser disc
We got our first dvd player as a family uh for hanukkah of 2001 maybe 2000
Oh, okay. So you're still on that like vhs cast. Okay. I mean, you know, look
Children of 480p
Got those uh, uh the the zip discs. Yeah, it's like a floppy, but it's fatter. It's gonna revolutionize everything. Oh
First one of these that's gonna be actually top secrets classified
Comes to us courtesy of edward snowden. Uh, yes
And this is this is when the nsa started harvesting data from various platforms
One of the things i've never really been able to wrap my head around is how the cia
Uh is ostensibly so good at their jobs or uh, and by that I mean like
Intercepting intelligence not the all the the horrifically bad shit they do
But like then they make a powerpoint that fucking looks like this
Yeah, I just pointed out something about this. So this is clearly set up as a graph
There's a large arrow pointing in an upper
Left direction. It doesn't need to be a graph at all. Yeah, there's no y axis. There is no y axis as I have labeled here
um
You know, this is just going up. This is a list of lines goes up. That means when
Yeah, I have here this
I've just incinerated my entire life and I have to go and live in russia forever
Because of this graph that I've leaked the from the nsa that just says stonks
Was this just done in word and the reason i'm asking is because of these bubbles
Like I fuck it might have been done in words. I don't think this was a powerpoint
I think this is word because look at the and look at the uh, look at facebook specifically. Why is that on two lines?
Oh, yeah, I think this is done in the world. Okay
And I definitely and I wanted to add this one in because how is youtube after google if they're part of the same
What did google do on youtube? How did they only get aol in 2011?
The last bastion of privacy
I don't even know what pal talk is what would that that's a thing that completely missed me. Is that some like european fucking
I must be yeah, I I don't know. It's a proprietary video group chat service
That enables users to communicate by video internet chat or voice
It offers chat rooms the ability for users to create their own public virtual chat room
Okay, so they're like i'm presuming that like were you to extend this arrow outwards
It would have like telegram and signal and shit on there now, but like I like the I like the prism logo here
It has like the beveled edge, you know
Oh, yeah, this is they got someone good to do the logo of the whole program
Um, no, no, I was gonna say it's I was being sarcastic. It's actually very bad
I do like how they created their own shape for some reason
They're like let's do a hexagon and then somebody said shit prism is too long. You gotta put an extra hexagon on there
What if we put two hexagons next to each other?
I also i'm a really big fan of this because this has if you look at the upper area
That's just a bunch of like somebody right clicking on a lot of logos
Downloading and then just dragging and dropping them and putting that late
There's no rhyme or reason to it and youtube is pixelated as all fuck
Right, they're just and you can see as like the person created it
They're like gmail facebook yahu google hotmail skype and they're like shit. I ran out of room
I've got three other things to put on here. Uh, talk youtube
Oh
This is a very also. Yes. I know this was the nsa and not the cia
I think the nsa were reading my fucking aol instant messages in 2011
As long as they weren't reading my icq shit back then
Oh, this is a very very high effort way to present almost no information
Hmm, but also this is this is something that's uh, going to follow us into the next slide, which is
the particular irritants of
it based military and uh, espionage power points
because
Oh, have we got a networking diagram here?
I'm gonna I'm going to start look all soldiers are now sensor nodes and also I like the helicopters
The helicopters that I've never seen that we don't use anymore are now dropping our sensor nodes that are dropping sensor nodes
Every sensor node is connected to an ip network which goes to a satellite dish
Which goes to a blacked out version of the three little pigs house. I imagine that's what it appears to be
The military bases with chimneys as we also as we often have
Any time any time you have like a even if you have like so s6
the six shop is our
The computer people
Anytime you have one of those people who has to like dumb shit down for the military
Like for everybody else like they have to explain they imagine any of us. We're all computer savvy imagine explaining
A network a complicated network to like just some old tori boomer
Yeah, and an old tori boomer who by this point could have spent like 20 years only being in the military
Like of course your starting point is going to be like, uh, yeah computers kind of like a gun
And these guns talk to each other these these aren't like sensors that are actually on military equipment. This is a metaphor. I see yeah
yeah, yeah
Is explaining how computers work through the metaphor of like soldiers and having it like a tiger tank for some reason
We also see some, um
Of the the high speed uh combat socks on these sensor node soldiers of uh
Looks like they're wearing like adidas slides to go to war which I mean fuck it
We just lost a war to people who wore adidas slides. So who am I gonna say?
I thought it looked like they were wearing flats
Um, yeah, make make me minister of defense or like secretary defense
My only defense policy is let the soldiers wear sneakers to the war. It was it's good enough for
It's good enough for the Taliban
When I when I went to afghanistan they gave me
Um brand new boots and I had not broken them in yet and in afghanistan the place where I was living
Had um, you know like a normal place would just have like gravel to walk on this one had like it was gravel
But like if instead of small rocks it was rocks about the size of your fist
So I will I yeah, I constantly like was rolling my ankles and uh, basically got huge blisters on the back of my
My heels
So I got a soft shoe profile where it's just basically you get to wear your running shoes everywhere
Man most comfortable fucking three days. I ever had an afghanistan wandering around just been like nope
I get to wear I get to wear my tenis. Fuck off
Sadly, I did not have uh a dita shoes to wear then. Um, I could have really blended in with the local population
Oh, okay. This is an org chart for operation warp speed the the vaccine rollouts. This is a donald trump
Uh, I've brought to us by uh by the president by
Covid itself and another just
insane
info dump that like looking at this my brain immediately turns off
This is like I don't give a shit about any of this. This is this is the one where like my eyes glaze over when they bring
This slide up and you just like get get to the information which is comprehensible place
And another another sort of useful sin here is uh, the like
insistence on acronyms, right some of which because this is for
FCA woodcock a do bigger staff. That's right. That's right
This is also like a joint civilian military operation like half of the people on here are civilians, right?
And like if you're in the military, right, it's reasonable to expect you to understand what like an xo is, right?
If i'm some fucking like doctor at the cdc, how the fuck do I know what op sec is?
Why do I need to know what op sec is?
It's a very good point. You probably somebody who's probably explained it to you. I look a lot of times he's um,
The military and the civilian especially like on uh engineer and medical sides often work together
Um, but also this is an insane org chart that nobody needs to see like for for my regular normal civilian job
Like we see org charts and somebody makes it in visio because we're not insane and it's like here
You uh fall under this person and that person falls under this person and look here's nice little boxes that are under each other
And I understand operation warp speed is probably a little bit. Um more complicated than working in it like I do
But it is not this fucking complicated and I just for these I wonder who is in the room like
That you feel like you need to
Put all this information up to
um
It really feel it really feels like there's um, there's no real reason for any of this
This this is a slide you put up to prove that you did the work despite the fact no one needs to see it
This is this is a receipt slide. Yeah. Yeah, this is a bullet point on somebody's officer
OER which is officer. Ah, fuck. I can't I can't remember what it but it's like your officer evaluation report
Like every year you have to be evaluated as an officer and an nco
This is I created the insane slide for operation warp speed that nobody looked at but fucking promote ahead of peers
Go ahead. Go for it. I'm imagining there was another larger slide next to this explaining all the acronyms
And both of them were up for all of 25 seconds
Yeah, I don't even know like so we've got xos and a xos which I imagine is an assistant xo, but the xo is already a fucking assistant
We've also got in the middle here chops Maya
I assume chief of operations, but then why would it I don't know
And chop plans chop yet plans chops and I don't know what orsa is
um
Just fantastic side boogan and and no none of it's like standardized at all
So you have like you have an xo, but you also have a deputy on the next one over and it's like
There's a controller
Man the people who are listening to this in the audio only are going to be completely lost
Well, it's a podcast with slides. We always tell you about the slides
That's right. That's right. Also a shout out to cyber barton steen in the middle there. I appreciate I appreciate that a lot
There's so many executive officers in here
There's like that's too many xos. You need one you have I mean, that's uh, fda woodcock dod bigger staff
These are made up names. These are foreign names
And alice just said that's right. Yeah, I said that's right. Yeah, and you didn't laugh at all at her right
I'm sorry. Oh, it's fine. I'm sorry. I'm trying to I'm staring at this and I'm trying to like
Yeah, are you not aroused?
This is like the fucking lamin configuration over here. This is you'll go mad looking into this
An executive decision to move to the next slide
Yes, the total uh human potential 100 percent of human potential is death
I
I understand that
parentheses suspects close parentheses. Yeah
I mean like I feel like this is more honest than usual in that it gets to the points of ranger school is to almost kill you
But like I I I love so much that it's expressed purely in terms of like effort of force of will
Right ranger school very similar to chemotherapy actually
Um
I like how there's no standardization between the distance between the bars or anything
I just kind of see this as individual comfort ranges. I'm sitting somewhere with a box of cheez-its
Self-imposed limit is the I put the box of cheez-its away
The post stress is somebody makes me get up and go to the store to buy cheez-its
Obviously death because I have no cheez-its
I just when you lay it out like this you you end up thinking
Okay, well clearly what I'm supposed to be doing is trying to spend as much of my life in this blue zone as possible
I was about to say this is the same way trump thinks about exercise
Yeah, Trump Trump thinks about exercise this way except it accumulates it doesn't go down
He's like
Probably also one of those guys that thinks that you only get a certain amount of erections per lifetime. So he's gotta keep it down
What's the star do you think for?
Underneath the increase individual performance, and then there's a star
I I have never truly no idea
Somebody was like it's too there's too much white space
Figure it out. What's on there raw shield? That's the gold star you get for increased individual performance
Yeah, that's right. I put it next to your name on the classroom wall
Rangers are giving 75 percent of it, but if you give 25 percent more you're gonna fucking die
There's people there's stuff above ranger. There's like, you know delta and special forces. So
They're getting increasingly closer to death. Yeah. Yeah, they keep killing each other is the problem
Individual comfort range is at about like 12 percent, right?
So what we're saying here is if I get like six guys, that's the same as a ranger
That's not bad as long as they're all very comfortable. Yeah
Six extremely comfortable guys or two guys who are like
I was gonna say we could use this podcast for an example, but I am slightly uncomfortable because it's a little warm in my house
So I think I'm more I'm more in the green zone here
Because I haven't turned my air conditioning on so I got far collectively we all get 75 percent of a ranger tab
We have like rang
Thank god, Nate wasn't able to join us. We'd all be dead. I was about to say
Oh god, okay, what next what next
Motion sickness, when might you get it? That's that's that's a screenshot from
Operation flashpoint or the first armed assault or incredible force to
Oh, yeah
God
This is another just like, you know, you could just give somebody information about motions
Like first off, who doesn't fucking know this about motion sickness and when you might get it, but like the and and look
I have I have definitely seen people throw up on a
On an airplane, but like
What is the guy with the gun? Like is it motion sickness when you're playing you?
You don't have your field of view on the video game
Wide enough goggles are like steaming up a little bit. Yeah, it's
This is from the special operations command too
So like these guys have already pushed themselves
Beyond the points of range all of these guys are experiencing motion sickness despite having died
Motion sickness is 90%
I will say
I do like that they they did subscribe to one of my powerpoint philosophies, which is
A black background because it's easier on people's eyes
That is true. Especially in a darkened room. Yeah
Shout out to the people who are doing powerpoint in night mode. Yes
Okay, what next
LSD testing in the army
So we have two this one and then the next one is also
Regarding drugs in the army, you know, we're not allowed to do fun things in the army and one of those includes drugs
I included this because the middle picture is very obviously
Food coloring. Yes
That's like coloring that I remember from, you know, my childhood
I think it would be really awesome if I could go and buy like red green yellow and blue acid
I like that there are these tabs next to a ruler that's done in centimeters because
Nobody in the army knows metric system. So it doesn't fucking matter
These are all gotten off of a google image search every one of these and somebody just put
LSD on it
If we go to the next one, this is this is a classic example of another subtype of army presentation brain
We have eye cop presentation brain because this is fully cop hooking both thumbs into his belt and telling you
Some of the street names of lsd are cid or acid or tabs or micro dot
The thing about micro dots you have room
There's room for that s why it's down there. Yeah, that's an interesting. I like this one. That's a internet explorer logo
Yeah, you've got cid cid and cid sid
Yeah, it's just google search more names for for lsd a kid from toy story. It's even worse now
I'm gonna do some cid and start like um frankensteining my child's toys together
Oh my god, okay, I think the bottom left one is a um is a postage stamp too. Oh my god, it literally might be yeah
It looks like porting someone to my chain of command because I see them lick the back of a stamp
In 1998 maybe that could have gotten away you you may have done that like all of these make sense except for the weird like
Bicycle stamp down like that looks like a tour de france stamp of some kind or like some kind
Yeah, there's alps. There's day and night and everything. I don't know totally tour de france also very much connected with performance enhancing drugs
Yeah, why not? I'm building a case here
Now we have another one here from the it sector and uh, oh boy is this
I want to do a slide about a cool piece of jargon that I've come up with and I'm gonna put it into everything on
That's to say this is a lot of quantum
So the next couple of slides are one of my favorite, which is the freaking lasers on everything
Um movement of the military where you just have to have like red and blue lasers much like gi joe connecting everything together
Uh, a lot of you got your quantum communicator at no point in time is quantum explained on here
But we do have like an atomic shield for some reason that is connected to a locked computer
Um, so apparently we have atomic
computers now
Which is new to me. I'm glad that we're moving towards the fallout universe
You literally don't but they do exist
Yes, we managed to do like
Build a working quantum computer or am I making that up? I mean, there's been several working quantum computers, which are not very powerful
Uh, yeah, but now we're gonna use them in in everything and when we do it's gonna be quantum
You can literally take you if you just took quantum off of everything on here
It would make more sense like adding quantum just fucks it all up
That's what I feel like when I it's a list of things that already happen. You just put quantum in front
When I hear civilians using the term like warfighter
Oh, like this is what that reminds me of
Yeah, you know what I mean?
We're just like stop pulling like I'm begging you to I'm begging you to stop
Quantum communications and quantum radar. Is that not and then quantum?
Magnet Romney sensing we can do magnetronomy sensing from space now
Uh, we will be able to with quantum with quantum. We've got a b2 bomber
We have apparently just a tomahawk that's up in the air under quantum inertial navigation
It's we're gonna use it for everything
It's it's a panacea, right?
And that's that's why we can sell it to as many parts of the dods we possibly can
Yeah, sign up for the $10 level of well, there's your problem for the quantum podcast
You know, if you want better podcasts
This thing this thing I cast they got to be done quantum
This thing is uh, I especially like the quantum communication because it seems to imply that they're using um
Spooky action at a distance to transmit information, which is physically impossible
I violate several fundamental laws of physics spooky action
Spooky action at a distance. Yes
It's when you change the spin of one particle when you measure its counter particle in another location it changes the spin
Uh instantly as well, but you know, there's some kind of caveats there where you can't really use it to transmit information
I don't understand it completely. Yeah
But what if we did that quantumly then it works you just got to think outside the box. This is true
Yeah, I could tell you've done a real warfighter
This is why we lost in afghanistan not enough
Maybe if we had like a quantum version of the spagheti graph, we would have fucking understood it
Here's an interestingly designed slide
Um a roadmap to lasers
This looks like this looks like it should be one of those
Three panel, you know, like science project, uh things. Yeah
Yeah
I kind of I one thing I am grateful to donald trump for is the creation of the space force because
I think you need some kind of institution like a heat sink that takes all of the guys who joined the military because they've really
Really wanted a laser gun or a rail gun and just sort of like hives them off separately, right?
But they can't hurt anyone
There's nothing doesn't even have real guns am I making that up? Yes, but it's like in very very early days
Yeah, and they don't really work and we also don't really have ammo for them
It's it it's one of those like one day. Maybe a rail gun is is going to be
Yes, a thing
Um, they're gonna figure out how to make a solid metal slug cost more than a missile
Yeah, I want to I want to point out or they'll do it
I want to point out the image all the way to the left where they had to photoshop an airplane into a photoshop of an airplane
Yes, and they just did it so badly. They're just like no just shrink it down. It's blue and then just make a laser line
Yeah, I'm not gonna mask
I don't get paid enough to mask this airplane out to to put it in the thing
Absolutely not the second thing I want to point out is the url underneath the second
I was about to mention that. Yeah. Yeah, so someone someone way in the back of the room can click that url
Well
Yeah, we're waiting for and and the thing is that's not a clickable url
So even if you do like hey, can I get the slide so I can go over these later and maybe uh
You would have to copy and paste that because even though in powerpoint you can literally make a slide, you know
And something like this clickable
Um, every military website is insane like this. It's insanely long. It makes no sense because it's
Created by seven committees. There's five different civilian organizations involved in it
So you have something like this in the end which is just leading to a pdf which just fucking print it out for me
Man, it's a pdf. Most of the deadest thing I ever heard because don't you people love your abbreviation
Get consistent francis
Yeah abbreviate this fucking url at least give me a tiny url or something
Yeah, the the the military hasn't discovered url shortners yet and they because it's like oh, it has to look
You know I they they want to be able to look at it and see a dot org or dot mill because otherwise
It looks like spam like these are the these are the kinds of people who look at like
Oh, uh, you know a tiny url. It's like um t.co. Oh, that's that's going to take me to some kind of late
I might as well be dot are you I am telling you I sent this to you click the fucking lint
No, you know what fine. I don't give a shit. Don't look at it
whatever
Now we got uh, we got an f 35 one
I do also like that the half of this episode is an area of grievances. Yeah, yeah, as it should be as it should be
Yeah, um
It's the go anywhere do anything plane
And that's why we have to throw millions and millions just keep the a 10. I'm fucking begging you
I like that this plane is one ups the fucking
day slash night capable
You can use the plane at night fly in the rain yet
Uh, apparently there's a lightning storm going on in the night
Yeah, yeah, it's all weather capable. No, what I've what I love here is
The non clickable link in a in a horizontal in a fucking
That's great. That's fantastic
Jesus
This is Lockheed Martin. This is that like some dipshit that made it either. This is like a
An actual somebody is paid to do these they pay civilians
lots of money to be able to put these things together normally and yeah, you've got like a
Oh, let's all crane our heads 90 degrees so that I can fill it
I can type this into my browser and download a pdf that i'm not going to read anyway
Hey, but it looks cool. Which is the most important thing
Well, it has lasers like I do like lasers. Yeah, it just looks it looks like it's shining a light
Like it's it's an f-35 with a bunch of flashlights on the front
Yeah, the disco f-35. This has been done by someone who doublespaces after the comma
Oh
They did through net-centric operations. That's that's come on, man
I yeah, this is this is beautiful actually. I love this a lot. I don't know what is happening on this slide
I don't know
Where I
Is creating the flag of imperial japan in front of it
Well, at least it proves that this powerpoint shit is not just an american phenomenon, right?
Not even just a western phenomenon because here we have
Indian powerpoint on like is this meant to be a float? Is this meant to be like a
That's a flow rate
Yeah, instead of instead of like dragging our icbms through the uh through a parade they just do this and everybody's is very
I think I think this genuinely might be the idea and if that's the case that's hysterical
How we get the lightning?
Well, it says it says to have low design for republic day parade 2017. So yeah, so it is a float
In two parts it's got it's got a tiny little float
I feel like it's got your land and it's got your sea you got to separate them so that the navy and the army feel special
I like that. I like that the float is just a cube though
I love to be with stuff on top. I love to join the indian half force and have to make a big beach ball globe
It's a phenomenon
You feel kind of better knowing it though, right? Like it's not just us
I like that they also the person that they have standing out in the ocean
They gave them a little bit of land to stand on because like look we understand that there is at least some
Rules of physics that we have to follow here. Yes
I just like how you establish ad dominance through net-centric operations
Yeah, and apparently and then there's also like a bad photoshop of somebody sitting
In the awax, but it's underneath the awax and then there's a bunch of I guess artillery pieces
I think are down there at the bottom. I don't have light
I don't have lightning bolts going towards them very much. So I don't know like some of these lightning bolts
aren't really going towards anything
Did they just give this slide to like the float manufacturer and
Just do this
Oh my god, so one other thing that I'm learning
Is that no one in the military knows how to expand a text field? Oh god, no, no or change font size
Superb is likely or two rating leave
That's so 11%
and nt 40%
or
Beautiful said raz beautifully said
Ha ha ha
Source spherian and lou Harris associate. They got paid
$350 million to make this slide
The next time anybody ever
like
Gets mad at you for taking patreon money for being ostensibly leftist podcast
Send them this and be like somebody made way more money doing this than I ever did
We're actually this is the format you have to submit exit surveys
All right, what else we got all right, so now we're turning into some of the um
Oroboros kind of ideas of this so so that big afghanistan one was the main oroboros, but this is a very strange like
Constant circle like okay, so I don't understand how am I supposed to read this?
I understand a circle Peterson diagram
So when there's competition, there's conflict
And then the the tour goes around it, but then we go back to competition
But also the reinforcing and the balancing they're just two things that just go it like this is like if you took a
You know a power plug and it was just a power plug on both sides and then plugged it into two
Yes, yeah, it's like one of those like male male leads that they put up signs in stores that are like these do not exist
They will not be made. We will not sell them
This is incredibly dangerous, and we'll kill you probably something that this is also trying to convey
Just incredible
All right
And scientific support
Thanks cross neemire
This this is your brain on military academy
Yeah, this is this is what's the what's the name of that?
Fuckin the thing the towers of hanoi. Have you guys ever seen?
Yeah, they've mixed sun zoo and the towers of hanoi into
And like the ground the ancients like okay
So our measurements of the ancient goes to the perceptions of reality today of mathematics
They had fucking mathematics back then like they were doing measurement measurements or math
They also have calculation, which is fucking math. Also, especially in the day
Back in the day. They had victory today. We have success
I love that so much. Yeah incredible. Well, yeah, just incredible. That's how I would define afghanistan is
Is the the ancients didn't have mathematics, but they did have calculation
But we don't have calculation we have model application parentheses simulation
Yeah, which probably is one of the previous slides we already went through if sun zoo was so smart
Why didn't he have fucking excel? Why didn't he have operations analysis?
I want to see sun zoo's fucking power points. I want to see clausa witz's power points
war as power point continued by other means
All right, so the next one is probably one that you guys have seen
Oh, I love the integrated survivability onion mostly because every time I see it I get to think about how uh
training and was it fucking training and research or doctrine command is called like tar deck in the top right
I always appreciate that. I think this is actually a pretty well
Good way to present this information
It is a silly metaphor. But yeah, I I I I get the I get the onion is the thing
This is this is the thing that I would say to a twink if they're also a spy
This is this is like my sort of objectives leaving the house
The alice caldwell kelly, um
Integrated survivability onion. Yeah, just don't get to a hundred percent of then you'll be dead. No
All right, and then the next one is uh, I look this is just I just called this docking
Of that that's uncomfortable to look at a very interesting interpretation of a Venn diagram right here. We all put our dongs together
Yeah, I mean military operations other than war like that other than war is its own like bullet point and it's
moot w
Moot for I don't even know what that could mean really rolls off the damn tongue
Tactical actions battle engagement strike attack and counter duel
Yeah, you you meet up with the taliban in your office that just goes forward like right
Slap the taliban guy with his white glove
You're like here you go. I brought flintlock
Flintlock pistols from home
Back at Santa's they're like why has our latest class had a 100% combat fatality, right?
This probably comes from somebody who read way too many of the lord flashman books
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, now you know it
I read those in afghanistan that was fucking insane. Oh hell. Yeah in british parlance
There is no difference between operational and tactical as far as I know. This is this is operational somebody went and um
Did a thesaurus google and then just copy and paste it everything in here. Oh, yeah harassment
Gamergate is a tactical operation
This is another example of a slide which has almost no information on it
Which is presented in a fashion which is completely impossible to comprehend
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it contains like a long list of bullet points in a format that is meant to like
Simplify your thing into fewer bullet points, which is just incredible this by viewing this slide
You actually know less at the end of looking at the slide and had you not looked at it
But also you're wondering if you could fit another penis into your foreskin. This is true
Never not wondering that
Oh god, this next one is just gore. This is gore. I hate this next one so much. I like this
Um, this one really
This one
Oh, yeah
I can only imagine the reaction when this like like somebody hits next says next slide
Like some major somewhere says next slide and some fucking sergeant hits a space bar
And the amount of psychic damage that happens in this room of like 40 or 50 people immediately like
How can anybody tell
Info structure here's the thing clint lorence probably looked at this and this is why war crimes happen
This this looks to me this looks to me like the a lot of this stuff was brought onto the slide gradually
Probably through like an animation and half of this is just truly unintelligent
Then you have the joke at the end which is where are the weapons that flashes up on screen
You know, I could sort of see that working
There's so many satellites that are copied and pasted and slightly tilted land mobile surface mobile. What?
I think maybe if you're if you're some major or whatever who is doing this presentation, maybe don't try and do bits. Yeah
Yeah, I uh
So i'm a navy seal now, right?
Yo, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you're you've given 110 percent. You've come you've pushed through death
And you've come out the other side
Detected to be a link 16. Yo, we don't we don't need any more aircraft connected to be a lake
Abolish the air force. Yeah. Go back to the army. Give back to the army. Exactly. Yeah
Look, I'm I'm sad that the army doesn't have any fixed-wing
Aircraft and the way to solve that is by giving us back the air force. Yeah, the space force now
We don't need an air force
Yeah, if you want if you want to wear like a blue uniform now go join the space force
Everyone else grow up join the army
Be normal and join the air force
And here's here's something I couldn't imagine trying to present
The anaconda strategy
Against al-qaeda in iraq. Oh boy
My anaconda don't want none unless you got power points, son
Border points of entry improvements work with source culture
I'm noticing I'm noticing on the boss and right detainee releases. Uh, did any of those guys go on to uh, maybe found isis
Yes, but don't worry about that. Yeah, you don't worry about that counter ethno secretary and pressures
tribal awakenings
Again, didn't did any of those guys go on to found isis
Oh my god
Also, I love non-kinetics as an expression of like stuff where we don't kill anyone
Like on the bottom my favorite is intel fusion. Like it's some sort of like korean italian restaurant
But intelligence fusion centers work
Like that armed unmanned aerial vehicles intel fusion and intel surveillance recon platforms all point to popular support
Detainees detainee ops goes to ideology. Oh no about that. That one's true
I think they I think they all point towards ideology
You don't have to put anything in here other than ideology weapons and money
What is the what I don't understand is what is the anaconda here?
You're squeezing your account. It's a perfect
It's a perfect staff officer thing because the anaconda strategy is how the union won the american civil
War like blockading ports of the confederacy so it couldn't trade and then winning the land war
So this is such an a fucking staff ride to gettysburg fucking power point
Somebody went to west point. Yeah, exactly exactly of like
I'm gonna give it this sort of cute name and that way you can see that i'm you know a very serious military thinker
Probably in the same power points the sun su thing
I wonder who the sons of iraq are i never uh never came across any of them
I don't know like what will you look at some of these is like i don't know if they're if they're good or bad
syria engagement like why are we talking about that in iraq
I think maybe they were trying to get them to close the border
And which then didn't work. I mean was al-qaeda even in syria like that's always been an isis thing, right?
Yeah
Look syria has always just been its own thing and then isis kind of showed up to party with everybody else
But uh, yeah, I don't understand why we've got to worry about that unless as you said it's a uh, you know
Close the borders kind of thing. I'm reading here about the sons of iraq
Coalitions between tribal sheiks in al-anbar as well as former saddam hassein iraqi military officers
Initially sponsored by the u.s. Military the sons of iraq were virtually non-existent by 2013
due to iraqi prime minister nuri al-maliki's unwillingness to integrate them into the security services
Sunni's formally serving with the group will face with options bit of becoming unemployed or joining
the islamic states of iraq and the levant
I mean nailed it once again
This is what happens see they this is what i'm worried about with cutting off all this unemployment during covid everybody's gonna go join isis
I don't have a job anymore. I'm gonna go join isis
Well, here we have an alignment chart
That is not aligned whatsoever. Yeah
A mind-resistant
I beg you to expand your text boxes
Modernization has a strike through we're not gonna do that
Priorities and then it just like goes over itself like if you look under the first arrow at the end
It's got like firepower over overruns with the other text box
I like how also they're showing things that literally don't exist like under
Lethality on the first one. I don't know what those three little like
Bug things are down at the bottom. I have never seen those from halo. Yeah, I was about to say that's there the warthog from halo
Well, not the warthog, but I am pretty sure they're from halo
So these are these are different types of units, right?
So you have an infantry brigade combat team a striker brigade combat team and an armor brigade combat team
incidentally
Fantastic bringing back brigade combat teams from the second world warth. They're a little boost of nostalgia
But like they're all gonna have different align. They're gonna have different balances of these three qualities mobility
protection and lethality
But we've expressed those using clip art and text that runs over each other
Yes, I can just this is this is this one's really difficult for me because I can sort of pass this and sort of not like it
It almost makes sense to me and that hurts more
I'm a big fan of under ibis the infantry brigade combat team protection is another infographic that they've just shrunk down so much
That it becomes completely useless other than to see a tank that we have on another that we have on lethality
And also a soldier for some reason a very large soldier in a very small tank unmanned vehicles that
Yeah, I don't know. This is this is confusing to me
What the hell is the mobility thing for the striker one?
I I also like under the armor brigade combat team where they put a what looks like a 1113
But it's photoshopped. They didn't like, you know remove the white background
So it's just cutting into the 1113 that's above it. Oh, yes. Yes
I like beautiful. I like it mobility for the infantry
whatever combat team
Uh, they all appear to be just on a jacked up like, you know, there's utvs. They ride in country music videos
Didn't they give a bunch of those to the ranges like the 75th range of regiment? Oh, yeah, that's I and you know what?
I've seen things like that like I was in afghanistan in 04 and I've seen not necessarily the
You know tactile go karts, um, but something like that like those things are like pretty cool
They've got you know instead of a um a driver side mirror
It's just got a pintle mouth for a saw so you can drive and shoot at the same time pretty sweet
Oh, they stole that from the fucking long range desert group
a classic of of like, uh, sort of arids
Arrow temperature warfare since the second world war just blast across the desert and a big jeep machine gunning things
Great fantastic. At least those guys are living the dream. You could uh, you could
Start that up and make good money just letting people do shit like that
Oh, my favorite things that I've ever done in the military was uh being the top of a
Humvee with a 240 bravo machine gunning targets on a target range
Not in an actual war because I'm I'm a journalist for the army. I was a journalist for the army
There's one of the few times I ever got to do anything cool in the military
Okay, uh
Man machine interface considerations
Roboam
Oh boy fourth dimension. What exactly is this experience audio visual sense
Condition knowledge
Simplification arrow action. I feel like simplification was circled by whoever had to look at this
Yes, I I badly want to crop the bit that just goes wisdom action into my twister header
The air force is really like bad in particular about thinking about thinking like as far as I remember they're the inventor of the udder loop
Uh for like, oh god, what is it?
Fucking like something orient decide act or whatever
And it's like nobody nobody thinks this way you can't make people do this
Yeah, it's observe orient decide and act and it's anytime you hear somebody say we need to take we need to consider the udder loop
That's a bad leader because they would have already done it basically like the udder loop is a thing that
You should be doing as a leader regardless
Oh my god, easy use fourth dimension
All right dimension
What is it?
I and and also like so many like pictures that are just repeated next to each other like two of them
Of these air force guy of you know pilots with you know, they're cool pictures blow them up a little bit
and then and then the brain
with the
pointing down
Like it's
It looks it looks like it was put together by the time cube guy
All right now now we have uh, how is rain formed from your middle school geography? Yeah, water cycle
This is I love this because it's the perfect tag yourself kind of thing. I'm just looking I'm looking for Waldo in here
um
A civil will max I'm not sure what that means civil air radar
Peddler, there's so many things that makes no there's a Humvee in the bottom right that says laser dazzler. What the fuck like
Yeah, if I'm tagging myself, I'm definitely high power microwaves
Laser dazzlers you the guy gets up in the turret with one of those green lasers and just kind of like shines it in your eyes while driving around
You know, I could see something like this working in like a textbook
Right something with this sort of format, you know, it's like okay. It shows what everything is doing
But again in a presentation, there's no way you can make this information
Make any sense if you're um, if you're just putting the slide up there for
45 seconds, even if you're like adding in them one by one
You're gonna fucking forget what the first thing was by the time you get the last thing
This only works is like a textbook diagram a lot a lot of work for not a lot of payoff
Yeah, and and it always like you've got a lot of things that are like shooting
Like you've got some looks like a patriot missile going off. You've got uh some
Drones and whatnot, but there's no enemy like who who's everybody shooting at like everybody's put
There's no everybody's pointing at each other just shooting randomly up in the air and just kind of saying fuck it
It looks like it's richards scary is a busy town
Anti radiation missiles do they have those?
Yeah, it's like
Fucking it homes them on the kind of radar that you use in an anti air installation
It's it's a seed thing. Um, okay. What else we got?
questions
Oh, no, I scooted out my bed
This is just again
That's a script. That's a script. That's a slide. That's a script special kind of slide right here
Common in college presentations
Which is where you just copy the text onto the slide and then you read it in a monotone voice
Then you get bad marks for it
Yeah, or it becomes a tremendously successful podcast
obviously
That's why I only put pictures on the slides and I put the notes in the notes. So no one knows i'm reading them
Wait, wait, wait a god damn second. Wait a god damn second
fourth paragraph
The united states subscription penetration cross 95 at the end of q2 2010
If we take out the demographic of five years in younger the mobile penetration has now passed 100 percent
Yeah, everybody everybody has a mobile phone and is dead. Yes
Apart from apart from people who are five years old and younger who are rangers. Yes
All right, we got the we got the the fucking rain cycle again
All right now this this is this is how a baby is formed. Oh boy. This is and and
Once again completely useless just to complete. There's no way you can print this
There's no way that you can present this. This has to go with like a flag of some kind
Yeah, you have to like unfold this a shitload of times
And like put it on the floor like a play mat. It's the size of the bayou tapestry
This is this is gonna be like when america finally breaks down and we turn to warlords
This is going to be my flag. This will be my standard. What is this slide supposed to say?
It's the life cycle of a piece of equipment, right? Yeah, it's logistics. It's it's the lifestyle of
acquiring and
Getting rid of it when you're done with it
Which is you know, it starts with a shitload of contracts and ends with just leave it by the side of the road in afghanistan
Light it on fire in iraq. Give it to give it to the Taliban
When um, when I left iraq in 2011 and uh, I had a old commander who was part of the unit that took over for for me
And he was the last you know last people in iraq
But you know quote last soldiers in iraq for combat operations and he was just like man
It's wild. They just like set everything on fire like
Are we gonna ship this stuff home? They're like no
We're just putting on pick the batteries out put the batteries on that pile and then put that on that file
And uh, he's just like man, they would burn like big screen tv. It's just lighted on fire
Man probably fantastic to breathe all of that shit. Oh, yeah
Well, he he absconded with a couple of because he was public affairs as well
So he absconded with a couple of really good p2 cameras. There's like i'm not gonna fucking set this shit on fire
Are you kidding me?
I didn't my connex and ship it home
I I think if if you look at this if you go into the far far right about halfway down under disposal
There's like a picture of a truck a picture of a big pile of shit. I think that's where the burning it in iraq is located
on this flag
It all ends with burning it in iraq or throwing it in a trash can and hoping nobody saw you
Yeah, what one of these is like a taliban red unit guy wearing high-top sneakers
All right, and then I just got one more one more slide for you
If anybody has any questions
Questions, oh
This is the other thing right as we talked about how the army doesn't teach you to do power point
But the one thing that's worse than having how is this?
The one thing that's worse than having a presentation by someone who doesn't have any training in power point
Is getting a presentation from someone who has a lot of training in power point because once they have too much training in power point
It becomes so formulaic that it's like you start at the beginning
There is a joke the joke is like really weak and typically I get these from like
Like military history people because they all used to be army officers
It's like the guy comes up and he says yeah
I used to be an armor officer for you know 20 years
Because it beat walking or whatever and you all kind of pretend to laugh
Then they tell you what's going to be in the presentation
They present the shit they tell you what was in the presentation
And then they do questions with another joke and it just makes you want to fucking tear your hair out
That's uh, that's our podcast. Yeah
Um, yeah exactly
Questions yeah any questions so many but I'll never have to answer
Yeah, the toy yeah
The next war we do everybody's going to have to wear motorcycle crash helmets
Yeah, well, um, when do we learn about military power points today? Uh abolish the air force
um
Fucking maybe do some kind of training and how to give a power point presentation maybe
I think yeah, I think the fact that
power points um impede
The flow of information within the army is actually good in the war against american imperialism
Yeah, comrade power power has been doing doing sterling service here. Yes
Yes, it's it's made us all dumber and uh harder to parse any information. I guess the question is what's the alternative
Look you can
The the the solution is to hire the kinsy institute to do all of our power points
Exactly show up and uh and and teach me how to do
I've you know land war lasers and shit. I guess
Yeah, I don't know maybe fucking like rethink the possibility of like why the why the fuck do you have to have a center of armies?
Why does everything need to be a presentation right?
Why do you need to have an army general staff in the first place?
Why why are we still wedded to this prussian idea of what an army has to look like?
Uh, what i'm hearing is abolish the officer corps and I 100 agree
That's what I'm saying. There's there's nothing that I need a major for that. I can't get a sergeant first class to do
All right
And really anything above sergeant first class is is sus as well. You're on the chopping block
Get an officer thinking man, you let's use this grants power points must have been fucking right
Yeah, that's what
You know the historians that love to say, you know, what if uh, what if hitler had won world war two?
It's like, what if uh, ulysses sass grant had better power point presentations to give to his troops about trench foot and
Properly eating your heart attack
Risk assessment don't stack three rifles like are next to each other that way
Don't shit in the middle of the camp
American it sounds like you're trying to tell me what to do and I don't I don't appreciate
I was just thinking that
See on your side, alice. Yeah
All right
Well, we have a segment on this podcast
called
safety third
Shake hands for danger now
Greetings comrades
Hello many years ago when I was young and stupid
I decided that what I wanted to be was an engineer. Oh my sweet boy huge mistake bad idea
But it was not the cool build things that fall down type
But the forces that want to kill you type
An electrical they all do they all do. I don't know
For this however, we were divided up into disciplines only in the second year and we all did a common first year thing
Thing where we were taught incorrectly about the Tacoma Narrows bridge disaster
We didn't we do that? Uh
Yes, yeah, no. No, I mentioned we do that at Drexel. Oh, um
Good question. I don't remember I did engineering
Engineering 101 102 103. Yeah, they make you build the Lego robot and disassemble the camera. Yeah. Yes
Um, and then they make you do a stock market game because that's engineering now
Yep, you make you make you build a Lego Tacoma Narrows bridge
I they didn't give us that many lego pieces why I I left the engineering school
And decided to do actual math
We did get to mess around with bridges and deflection testing using students as loads
So you could feel that bridge deflect when people walked on to it
However, this is from one of the excellent ideas when the electrical and mechanical engineering students would share a lab room and do an experiment
This was a straightforward task where we had created a circuit with a mechanical device and connected it to three phase power
And note that this is australia
So the voltage was in the 400 to 415 volt range
We would then take some readings and remove the power and reconfigure the circuit
The setup was such that we had three people
One person's only job was to turn on and off the power or hit the emergency stop button
One person who was an observer
Uh who wrote down all the readings that were taken and instructed the person to power on and power off
Um and one person's job it was to reconfigure the circuit uh and take some more readings
Since i'm uh the lucky one I got the configuration slash readings job
I see the helpful diagram here. Yes
Here's the person here's the circuit which is a box
Here's the power switch and stop button. I do appreciate the big stomp button. Yes
In addition, since we were a mixed discipline class, my lab group had one other electrical student and one mechanical student
We set up the experiment began to power up the circuit and take the readings
The procedure was that the person on power would ask the observer if it was okay to turn on the power
And the observer would indicate if it was or wasn't
The important part was that the power was not to be turned on unless the person was instructed to do so
First few times this went fine and I took some readings
The observer asked to have the power turned off and I got the reconfiguring the circuit
This took a little time and I was asked if I was okay by the observer and I responded that it would take me a little while to complete this
And he responded with an okay
And that was the last thing I remember as the mechanical engineer turned on the power
Jesus wept
The next part was described to me afterwards because I blacked out
I don't know if any of you have had felt the kiss of sweet madam electricity
But I got 415 volts across my right hand which caused all my muscles to contract in my hand and arm
Leading me to punch myself in the face and collapse
Since we had trusted my safety to a mechanical engineer, they did the only logical thing and watched instead of hitting the big red button
Then the lights went out as the safety switch in the building's main tower circuit cut in and disconnected all the power
Now if this had been the final outcome, then it would have been a dumb thing that happened
But we have to get in some of the truly stupid design ideas at my university
This all took place in the electrical engineering building, which is up here, right?
And all of our electrical labs were in it
But they also decided that the power for the entire university would be linked up to the switchboard in there
So by tripping the safety in the electrical building, I took out power across the entire university
Nice good for you, man
We had to wait two hours for the fire department to arrive as this was also hooked up to the fire alarm system
And power could only be reconnected by them turning off the alarm and resetting the switchboard
Wait, why did the fire department like two hours to show up incidentally? That's a good question
Maybe they have another fire somewhere
Australia I can only imagine that this is probably some out in the middle of a desert somewhere
They're hacking their way through the bush with shessies
They have to punch like five kangaroos to get there
They have to they have to go through you ever seen like those uh those uh bush firemen, you know, then they have to
Fire truck and it burns over
They have to do that like six times just to get there
As you can see here since we were good in loyal students
We had a student union building that was available to any student that was a member of the student union
And of course at this time it was compulsory to join the student union
And i'm sure the whining of right wing wussies have gotten rid of this
But it was decades ago and we understood the collective action was good
And the power outers was described by the student union newsletter as an unknown interruption to the power to the university
And the electrical use and I was never here
And the electrical engineering department
Was keen for people to not know that it was caused by students fucking up an experiment that they were in charge of
The mechanical engineering student faced no punishment for his stupidity
And I had a right arm that was numb for most of the day and sore for a week afterwards
I later dropped out of engineering to go and complete a computer science degree
But it was not the last time the sweet madam electricity would embrace me
But it had a much lower voltage of 230 volts
Jesus
still man
Hopefully I will stay far away from three pays power and now whenever I walk into an environment that has the possibility of electrical work
I memorize where that big red stop button is
That's a pretty good prank though to make another student punch themselves unconscious and knock out powers of the entire university
Senior
Wow
Thanks for the enjoyable podcast exploring the peaks occasional and trouts of uh human achievement
You're a sincerely reformed electrical engineering student
Good lord. Um, all right, so our next episode is on the Tacoma Narrows bridge
No, it's not. No, it's not. I never agreed to change the gag. Yes, you did
It's the we you're all voted on changing the gag. It's the fucking it's the boston molasses flood
You know, I will I will exert I will exert a new one
You present the slides
Sometimes I make them. Yeah, this guy's francis made the slides. Thank you for coming on. Yeah
Where can people find more francis content? Yeah, um me and uh, my buddy nate were uh, both x military and we both hate the military
And uh, we both talk about that a lot at what a hell of a way to die
Uh hell of a way to die.com for you know, we got a store and everything and we've got our own patreon at hell of a way to die
Where we uh, I do all kinds of interviews some military some not I also talk about
Uh, rural Missouri bullshit because I'm from st. Louis. So it's a little bit of everything
You get some dad content a little bit of gardening a little bit of grilling. It's a great podcast all of us have been on it
Yeah, Nate and I talk for at least um, the first 10 minutes about our gardens and uh, the things that we're cooking
Because we're both like in our late 30s and you know white male. So what else do we have going on for us?
Oh, yeah, thanks so much for coming on. Thanks for having me. I was excited
I was really excited to uh to do this. I had fun
I had fun with the osprey and I knew I was gonna have fun with this one
Yeah, together we can abolish the air force. It is in our hands. Yes
Just split it, you know, all the planes come to us and all the satellites go to space force
Um, too easy
Oh, I have a commercial to put in
Uh
October 26th. I will be on the guest crit stream
with um
Michael and kevin who we had on for the uh, calatrava episode and also kate wagner. It is a uh
architecture criticism stream run by the folks over at failed architecture
I'm not sure if i'm allowed to promote this yet. So I might edit this out, but
We'll we'll we'll find out. Uh, that's going to be a fun time. Uh, I'll put the link in the description if I'm allowed to do so
Oh, yeah, listen to that unless we had to redact it. Yes, exactly. Don't listen to it
And if you guys need any if you guys need any powerpoint presentations done
If you need me to help uh, we're changing that last slide, let me know and I will put multiple bridges
Different speculations and different sizes
On there for you. I think as a bit we should genuinely have the last slide be something terrible that we've mocked up like that
Yes, a bunch of a bunch of lasers coming out of the
Going out of the bridge dead people of boston
All right, I think that was a podcast. That's a fucking podcast. I'm gonna stop my recording and I'm gonna go to bed sounds good