Well with Arielle Lorre - 12: INGRID THOMPSON - Healthy Skin and Glowing Within

Episode Date: July 3, 2019

Ingrid Thompson "On Healthy Skin and Glowing Within" on The Blonde Files Podcast with Arielle Lorre #112 Ingrid Thompson on Healthy Skin and Glowing from Within - In this episode Arielle talks to her facialist - aka her goddess of skin - about the how to obtain and maintain a radiant, glowing dermis! Ingrid breaks down what ingredients to look for, what to avoid, and what to use for common issues like blackheads, clogged pores, acne, fine lines and pigmentation. They discuss the interconnectedness of the body and how various functions affect our skin. This episode is PACKED with valuable, applicable information and Ingrid is simply a joy to listen to. More about Ingrid Thompson Ingrid's journey into beauty and wellness began in 2003 at legendary Beverly Hotels Spa by La Prairie. After 5 years of working with affluent clientele and celebrities, her desire to help resolve skin issues brought her to top medi-spas including Kinara and Ona Spa. Once Ona closed it's doors in 2014, she decided to open her own specialized skincare practice focusing on facial rejuvenation for acne and aging. She believes in the interconnectedness of truly radiant skin and a harmonious balance in our diet, stress levels, relationships and other aspects of daily life. Rather than just treating symptoms, Ingrid uses a holistic approach to uncover the root cause of skin issues, restoring balance and health to her client's skin for years to come. High performance ingredients and advanced technologies restore luminosity and clarity to aging, sensitive and acne skin. Her goal is to always create the most safe and rapid change on a cellular level with the most comfortable and minimal downtime possible. Most of all, Ingrid's passion is to help her clients achieve their own personal vision of flawlessness.  You can find Ingrid here: www.highvibrationskincare.com Ingrid On Instagram For Arielle's cookbook:https://theblondefiles.com/the-blonde-files-cookbook/ Follow Arielle here on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ariellelorre/ And catch up with Arielle here on YouTubeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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without your reis-sondor or sunnikars. You're listening to the Blonde Piles podcast. I'm your host Ariel Lori. Today I have one of my favorite people in the world, Ingrid Thompson. She is the founder and facelist at High Vibrations Skin Care, where I've been going for all my skin needs for the past year and a half. And if you follow me on Instagram, which most of you probably do, then you're

familiar with Ingrid. I have her on my Instagram stories and she's been on my YouTube before. If you haven't watched our YouTube video, you can go to my channel, YouTube.com slash the blonde files. And you can watch that. We talk about skin and Botox and plastic surgery and all of that good stuff. I'll give you a little background about Ingrid before she introduces herself. So she began her journey into beauty and wellness in 2003 at the Beverly Hotel Spa. She worked there for five years, working with affluent clientele and celebrities. And then in 2014, she opened her own specialized skincare practice, focusing on facial rejuvenation for acne and aging.

But something special about Ingrid is that she believes in the interconnectedness of truly radiant skin and a harmonious balance in our diet, at stress levels, relationships, and other aspects of daily life. So she really looks at the holistic picture rather than just looking at skin. So without further ado, Ingrid Thompson. Okay, I'm here with one of my favorite people in the world, Ingrid Thompson from High Vibration skincare. Hi. Hi.

Thank you. So Ingrid brought me some gifts and I'm going to open them on air live. and I may or may not cut this out after, but I feel like some people might like this noise. Tissue. Asimr. Right? Yeah, I'm like the worst present rapper ever.

I'm just trying to give people this full experience. Tissue. And I have to say, while I'm doing this, you guys probably know you've been on my skin journey with me, and it was so bad. And now, look how beautiful. Yeah, especially. being sick. After two peels, it's probably partially from the peals, mostly from the peels and from you, and partially from being in my house, no makeup, steaming all the time, all of that. But, okay, so I have crystal alchemy, which is Ingrid's line that she's come out with. It's all natural, crystal infused, right? Right. Amazing. Detox blend. So tell me about this. Well, this one is an aura cleanser, basically. So I figured with all the stress that you've been having.

Remember the last time that you were with me what we were discussing. Oh, do that on. That's actually, I just sprayed in my face. Okay. Over you. We're cleansing your aura from stress. It's got lemon grass, palisanto, claris sage, and, of course, charged with crystals and a high-frequency water.

Oh, my God. Yeah. It smells so good. Oh, and the other thing about the crystals. So when I last saw you, it was two weeks ago, you did the crystals. We did some of my ovaries, right? Yes. I had not had my parents.

it's January, I got a full-blown period for a week. Sorry, TMI, people, but that shit works. I know. I mean, I'm obsessed with crystals and unicorns. Yeah. Okay. I know the crystals work. Yeah. So this detox mist is amazing. And now I can't wait for you to open this one. This should be just a new podcast kind of just opening gifts. I love it. No, you deserve it. You do so much for everybody. Oh, my God. Oh my God. Is this what I think it is? I hope you. Oh, my God. I think you asked for it. A facial wand.

Oh my God. Okay, so tell everyone about this. I don't know the official name for it. The high frequency wand. And everybody was really obsessed with finding out about it. And I actually think it's a professional tool that should really be in the hands of people. The problem is you can kind of hurt yourself, so we'll have to talk about that later. You put your finger on it before you put on it and make sure you're never wet when you touch it.

But it's going to help to kill bacteria. It oxygenates the skin. this is major. Yeah. Thank you so much. And I can put a link to this in the show notes because everyone's going to be like, what is this? They want this. Yeah. And can people buy Crystal Alchemy anywhere yet? Well, right now they can buy them directly from me on my website. Yeah. Okay, cool. All right. I'm excited. Thank you. Thank you. You're so welcome. Okay. So I obviously know your story from many hours spent with you. Yeah. But why don't you

kind of give everyone an intro a little bit about yourself and how you came to be the skincare goddess that you are. Oh, thank you. Well, from what I do present day is I would consider myself a transformation specialist, really. I've become that over the years just because the people that have come to me have gone down a road where they've, you know, gone on the antibiotics, seen dermatologists and all of that, and none of that has worked. And so they've come to me with these chronic skin conditions. And so I kind of help them unravel the mystery, whether it be dissecting their lifestyle or diet, but also doing topical with products and all of that.

And I think most recently the addition has been the element of energy, the impact of energy and beliefs and the relationship with self in terms of how you, with skin issues. So it hasn't always been that way. I mean, this will be the first time I think that I really did. connect the dots of how my story came about. So, I mean, we can definitely break it up, but it started a long time ago with, yeah. Yeah. So what was your lifestyle like before you got into all of this? Well, I've always, I'd have to say I've always been a pretty healthy eater, but due to some history of trauma from my early childhood, there was definitely some patterns of abuse, like, you know,

with drinking, alcohol, even cigarettes, just to numb the pain. I didn't know that I was necessarily doing it at the time. But of course, if you're having a healthy diet thinking, okay, well, I'm going to counteract these things. It doesn't always work. You can kind of keep it at bay. I got really quite good at making sure that I wasn't rapidly aging, which might be why I'm so good at what I do.

Don't do that, but, you know. You look so young. Thank you. I mean, yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. And you haven't had the help that I've had. I do Botox, though.

Oh, yeah, but I've done way more than that. You know that. But I don't think you're doing it for aging. I think you just do it because you like the way it makes you look and feel. Yeah. I'm here for the aging. Yeah. So you had so you were, you had unhealthy coping mechanisms, I do.

Okay. I sure did. Yeah. I mean, I think that it really stem back from, I was trying to figure out like what was the moment that I decided that I wanted to get into skin. And I think it was growing up in Hawaii, it was great, but I was made to feel extremely ugly by everyone else because I was not only totally white, but I was freckly and it just wasn't attractive to people. And so I was the victim of, I want to say victim in that way, but reciprocant of a lot of ridiculing, bullying, even like physical and violence because of being

white. And I remember sitting on the beach one day, I think it was about eight years old, literally covered in a white mask of zinc oxide that my mom put on me. And I remember hearing the heckling of, you know, kids. And who could blame them? I literally looked like a mime, you know. And I just remembered in that moment that it was going to be my mission to eradicate my freckles because it made me feel so unworthy. Like I felt like I was going to find my worthiness by going down this path of fixing my

skin. That's interesting. So did you always, were you always into, um, into, sun protection. Like growing up in Hawaii, were you ever like a sun worshipper or were you like the anti? No, that's a good question because my mom was really the Hitler about it. Like I really wanted to just be in the sun, but I would burn so badly that it was so painful. I mean, I remember falling asleep one day in the sun had blisters on my back. She protected my face, but she wasn't as concerned about my arms. I would sunbathe as like a teenager, young adult. I had 15 oil on, but I noticed.

that the parts of my body that have not had the exposure are so not damaged. Like my arms look like I'm like 70. See, because that's my one vice remaining. I mean, yeah, pretty much that's it. Like, there's nothing that I love more than the feeling of like a deep sun tan. I'm really good about spray tanning, but then in the summer sometimes I'm like, oh, just get a little. And then once I get a little, I go for it.

I'm like an addict. So I'm trying not to this year. But, ugh, because there's nothing you can do. do. Yeah. Would you like the feeling or do you like the good look of it? Both. Okay. Both. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I look 10 pounds lighter. All clothes look better. You get like, I mean, also like the vitamin D makes you feel good. Right. But there are ways to do that without frying yourself. I know that. But you smell like cornflakes otherwise. Right. With the self-tenor isn't as much. But I mean, I think that if you can, what I do when I go out, because, you know, you see that I travel with my daughter. We go to Touloum and we're in the sun.

I'm just constantly reapplying sunscreen being out in the sun. But I also take that water by osmosis that also helps with the UV protection. But load up on your omega fatty acids. And even pomegranate antioxidants will help to block out the free radical damage while you're enjoying your sun. Okay. So see, how do you know all of this? So how do you get from Hawaii to getting into skincare? So that was kind of what started it, right?

was having that experience. But when did you move to L.A.? Did you immediately go into skincare? What was that path like? So, well, to answer your question, I mean, I moved to L.A. in 2000, and it did not start there. I actually started down the business route. I went to business school. I had a daughter at 18 after a series of horrible experiences running away from home, you name it.

And I found myself in a situation with the father of my daughter. It was extremely abusive as well. And, you know, at this point, I was very estranged from my mom and my family. So I kind of felt stuck. I dropped out of school. I was a straight A student before then, you know. And I came home from work one day because, of course, I was the only one that was working. And I come across my daughter crawling on the floor amidst beer cans and cigarettes.

And it was just so heartbreaking. I was so angry, like, whipped her up and called my mom immediately. I knew in my heart that I couldn't put her through this, even though I didn't have the confidence to leave up until that point, that I just wanted to, you know, make my life better. So I moved back home and my mom allowed me to stay and we were like, well, what do I do with my life? So I went to college. Best decision I could think of was going to get my business degree.

Even though I do remember thinking that I was interested in skincare, I just didn't think I was going to make enough money. So that's why I ended up pursuing business. And after that, so when I graduate, oh, I should probably backtrack because I did have a situation when I was all cleaned up that I had this burst of acne. When I was the cleanest I'd ever been, I was working out like crazy. And all of a sudden I have cystic acne all over my cheeks. And I just couldn't figure.

I went to doctors. They gave me antibiotics. And it made it worse, actually. And so I remember, I think that's when the esthetician was actually born because I was doing potions and fingering out. I don't really know exactly what I did to make it work, but I just know that it was diet and topical like oils, totally natural things. But I ended up going to business school and then I was trying to find what I was good at, went into insurance, I went into advertising, investments, which was when I moved here, I got married and divorced, ended up here. But I was always being underutilized, objectified, and just unfulfilled. So the last place that I was at was this investment company.

And I was kind of being, quote, unquote, harassed. I guess you can call it by my boss. But when it was discovered by the upper management, they thought I was going to, like, blow the whistle. So they put me in a situation where I was being paid very well to be in a receptionist position. Well, I figured out what I wanted to do. And they would pay for it. I was like, well, with that case, I'll just, like, file my nails for a little while. No, I mean, I figured out pretty quickly that I was like, why not?

I'm going to try it. And I did. I went to ascetician school, and it was a dream come true for quite a while, you know. It was just, well, I mean, I guess that's fast-forwarding into the actual experience of it. But so once I got my aesthetician license, it was a bit of a path to get there because I knew, again, financially, I had to make a start. an amount of money. And aestheticians don't always make much money straight out of the gate especially.

Right. So I just ended up going to the La Puri counter to get an eye cream because I felt like I was as a new estetian. I'm like, I deserve to have a quality product. And La Pry was what my mom used. And so I was always like dipping into her supplies. And so I used that and they offered me

a free facial. And so I was super excited about that because of course the wheel started turning like how does one do this at least a foot in the door and so it turns out the woman that helped me was leaving and it was her position that I was going to be filling in but I went and wrote a letter to like the corporate office rather than waiting for it to be connected and I got that job I nailed it down and that's all right and then moment like months later I heard through the grapevine that the Beverly Hills Hotel was opening a la Paris spa and I'm like once again write a letter to the corporate office I love it.

I love you, been a biggest band forever. And somehow as a new aesthetician, I got the job. So that, to me, was the holy grill of all first jobs as an aesthetician. And how did you go from that to what you're doing now, which is private? I don't know the exact term for it. But I guess I'm a business owner. Yeah. Yeah.

So I worked at the Beverly Hills Hotel for about five years. And it was amazing, you know, working on celebrities, affluent clientele. I even got promoted to go to the, to open the Ritz Carlton Hotel and the Grand Cayman. I wanted to go, but my daughter at the time was 13 and she was not for it. So I was like, you know, and the pay wasn't promising much. So I was like, no, I don't want to take that risk. But I should also mention when I first got this job, I was seeing a man who, again, was an abusive relationship. And I was parting.

It was actually my first real experience with drugs myself. And I went down a deep, dark home. And so I was actually showing up to work being very, what is it called when you're like functional? At least you think you are. And inside just like having all of these things. So I was numbing my pain, showing up to work, being this ascetician. But and I enjoyed what I did. But after a certain amount of time, I was starting to become bored with rubbing people's faces because I really wanted to make a change.

And I wasn't seeing any of these people again. And I wasn't really building that client. So I started to call in sick a lot and really goof off on the job. And so they ended up firing me, this dream job that I lost. I think that that was the moment that was my wake-up call. I mean, and obviously there's a whole windy road associated with that. But in a nutshell, that was my wake-up call. And I ended up having to get three jobs to make not even close to what I was making there.

So I decided to cash in my 401K to buy space. equipment, which then I inserted into my living room. And for at least two years, probably my mom and like one other person was my client base for my private. And then I ended up finding a room that was very reasonable at this holistic wellness center on Barham. It was in Burbank and it was like a home, but it was like three stories. My room was about 450 square feet and started seeing clients there was working at a spa in LA that was I think that was in about 2014 it suddenly closed its doors I had been there for about five years and so I just figured at that point it was like time to either find another job or actually do this for real so I thought that everybody would follow me you know

I'm like this is it it's fine and they did it first but then slowly but surely they started to trickle away and I realized I was kind of left with half the base. I had no, like I wasn't going out to get my clients like I do now, you know. And I don't really advertise, but it's like I'm more proactive. Yeah. So I had to make a decision. I was literally three weeks would go by without a client. And I was like, I had rent to pay.

So I had made a decision, put all my stuff in storage and move into my facial room, which not everyone knows. So it's a little, like I've had a lot of, not a shame, but like pride around that. And I know a lot of my clients actually know the truth about that. But it was like, I was embarrassed. But really I should be proud that I had the drives to keep going. And literally had an Asian futon that I would carry myself about 100 pounds up a flight of stairs every single night. And lay it out for two and a half years. Wow.

So that I could build my client base. I started a blog. I built my own website. And then I moved to the place that you met me at. And yeah, I mean, I think that the only last component of how, you. that all contributes to what I do now is when everything was great, healthiest I'd ever been, getting a lot of energy work,

dealing with my pain in very healthy ways. I wake up one day and my face is like five times the size of it is, rash from head to toe. Oh my God. And I just had no idea what was going on with me. And so through going down to different holistic practitioners, it was a combination of kind of like an ascension. I didn't know what that meant, and we can get into that later,

but just like lowering, getting rid of all those lower vibrations that I have accumulated over time because I was ready to let that go. But also I had pathogens, I had parasites. I had, all those kind of things actually live in a very parasitic environment anyways. So that's when I learned how important that that connection between self and all those experiences that were underlying the surface. when it was time to release, it all came up through my skin. And as someone who is an esthetician, I help people.

You can imagine what kind of shame and fear I felt seeing that happen to myself. But I think that was the most empowering moment ever. I really was like, you know what, rash? I'm going to kick your ass. Like I know what to do and I'm going to bring out all the big guns. And I actually worked with the rash. I realized I learned so much about skin and health. through that experience, really, even though I studied and became a health coach way before that.

It was just like it became real. So anyway, that is a very long-winded story. It's so interesting, though, and that's such an amazing lesson in perseverance, right? Yeah. I mean, I had no idea. That's, I mean, that's a moment where a lot of people probably would have thrown in the towel. Yeah. And you didn't.

And so something that I love about you is you're a proponent of, like healthy skin starting within and like you were just talking about it's wellness and health isn't just diet and it's not just skin and it's not just exercise it's energy and spirituality right and there's so many different pillars so what what do you think are the pillars of good health good health yeah um well i mean like you mentioned or just have a healthy body yeah well well i like the fact that you started with the energy thing. I definitely feel it starts with a good relationship with yourself, self-love. I mean, I guess we can start there. Because a lot of times when you are experiencing health issues or skin issues, there's a separation between self, you know, and so

you're not helping the immune system heal itself by being in a separate head space than your skin or sending it negative thoughts or being angry at it or being fearful or disgust. You know, disgusted with yourself or whatever it might be. I think that that is the first pillar of health. It's just that strong relationship with self. But putting that aside, of course, we've got the diet aspect. But I think that finding a way to help the body retain hydration is super key. And so many different, not only in your body, but in your skin, because you want to be

able to reduce inflammation or keep that inflammation at bay, but also, um, controlling free radical damage and to give your body the raw materials that it needs in order to replenish its cells, to optimize the function, to build more collagen. And I think lastly, circulation is super important because, and that includes energy, right, because you're always want to be kind of this vessel that allows nutrients in and toxins out. So yeah. So can somebody have, can somebody have an unhealthy body but have good skin? Yeah, unfortunately.

Really? We hate those people so much. I knew when someone, when I was going to aesthetician school, the girl that I would party with, she literally looked like snow whites, okay? Like she was 27 years old and she was drinking soda, smoking cigarettes,

suing coke, a lot, and her skin was insane. But you know what? At 29, she got arthritis. rheumatoid arthritis and, you know, got gained all this weight. And literally, I don't even know what happened to her now, but so it can manifest in different ways. I almost would rather have it show up on my skin because at least you know that something is happening. Yeah.

Yeah, for me, like I know the first, the most telltale sign of anything amiss in my body is it shows up on my skin. Yeah. And bloating, kind of, but mostly on my skin. whether it's hormonal or in my gut or more recently, like we were talking about this energy and maybe trauma. It all finds a way to get out eventually, and it's usually via my face. Yeah. Well, it is the largest detox organ of the body.

So I just think that some people are a lot more reactive. It is, I'm the same way. It's always been that way. You'll know it. It's funny, though, that you say that about that girl, because when I think back to like, when I was partying and drinking and doing tons of drugs and smoking a pack a day and never drinking water and eating like shit and not sleeping and when I was sleeping sleeping in a full face of makeup my skin was great really yeah but then when I got sober I was like oh

like it all caught up to me and I was like holy shit I looked like I don't know I was going to say 40 But I mean, but I was in my mid-20s, you know, so it was very alarming. I was like, oh, my God. But 40 can look different. Like, I don't take offense to that because, right. I think sometimes 40 can look worse than, no, 20 can look worse than 40 sometimes. Yeah, I looked, maybe 40 wasn't the right word. I just looked haggard.

Yeah. You're probably very dehydrated. Okay. So how much? would you say the gut and hormones and other functions of the body affect the skin? 100%. I would say 99.9%. Yeah, because sometimes it could be a topical thing, infection or something, but I'd say most of the time you can link it back to the gut and liver and hormones.

So if somebody comes to see you, what is the first place that you look? Or what is, if somebody's coming in with skin issues? Yeah, well, we sit down and we talk. talk and I kind of just get a history of, you know, their journey. They'll usually tell me, like, if they've been on a bunch of antibiotics. And I really like to hear what their diet is. That to me is kind of, and sometimes it's hard because they're like, well, I've been doing everything. And I don't eat, I don't drink, do dairy or gluten or all these things. And I'm like, okay, but what were you doing before this? So a lot of times it's like the childhood,

I want to hear what you were raised on. So I can see. Because these things in the gut take time to manifest. They're not necessarily like if I eat gluten now I'm allergic. Like it will show up pretty fast. But over time, these things, it's almost like a little bit each day. So we need to find out what they were doing prior to that. And of course, lifestyle, I don't like to pry too much. I mean, if you're going to offer the information, but we all know what's bad for.

I mean, intuitively, we all know what we should and shouldn't be doing. But as far as diet, that's a different story. But take a look at that. And of course, when I see their skin, I don't know, it's usually an intuitive feeling that I can get. Like if there's lots of inflammation or is there a lot of clogging. Is there a lipid barrier? You know, there's like this little red rash that's there. Like all these little components, like I start to kind of put together what I'm thinking.

Like, is it a pathogen infection? Is it leaky gut possibly? So I feel like it is really a lot about what I'm seeing, but also what they're telling me that they're eating. But also, what are they using on their skin, which is probably the most simple thing to use, I mean, to change. Because a lot of times when people are having problems, they're off buying a whole bunch of stuff. And just, FYI, I hate to say this, but Sephora employees are not skin specialists. I just need to say it right now. Oh, my gosh.

And just don't waste your money going down that. rabbit hole, you know. But I mean, especially if you're having a really serious situation, I would just, you know, spend your money on getting like a holistic practitioner to help you. It's so true and it's so hard because there are so many, I mean, we're bombarded now, right, with all these different products. There's so many, all promising to do this and that. And then you have influencers and other people, you know, saying that it worked for them and it did this and that. And I mean, I definitely have been, persuaded before. And I think when I came to you, I mean, I have every product that, you know, in the land in my bathroom. And it's not enough still. No, no. And it's just, you know, people say that

they can't afford it. And it's the same thing with like, you know, I ran into this with my gut issues too. Like I would buy so many different supplements and different foods and do this and that. And really, yeah, okay, it's an investment having a professional kind of take the reins for you. But then you're also not wasting all that money. Yeah, exactly. It's more cost effective, I think, to just give it to the pro. Right. And you can ask friends or, you know, look for reviews or just find someone who's dealing with it holistically.

And you tell them what your budget is. They can give you a basic plan. Right. You know, so. So what? what are the basics that everybody should be doing for their skin? Well, I feel we need to be cleansing, of course. I do believe in toners.

Toners are not necessarily necessary twice a day. I also don't even know that cleansing is necessary twice a day. In fact, someone can over cleanse. I feel like my skin has gotten a lot better since I stopped cleansing in the morning. Right. And you told me that I didn't have to. And I was like, oh. Now I just tone and.

use my serums. Right. What are you toning with in the morning? Hydropeptide. Oh, perfect. I love that. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we kind of need to be putting nutrients on in the morning. And then, so in the morning, you want to be loading up on your antioxidants. That's a really good time for that. Peptides, your sun protection. Okay. So what are antioxidants and peptides? Antioxidants. I mean, I think layman's terms here. There's so many different ones, but the basic ones are the vitamins A, C, and E. Okay. Those are the basics. basic ones. Kocutan is also a good one, but those are my kind of go-to. There's so many different ones you can access online, or not online, but in stores. I feel like if we just stick to the

basics, we don't go off into the weeds, you know, because there is a lot of trends, too, with ingredients, and I think if you just get the core ones, peptides are the building blocks, amino acids that actually give the raw materials for the collagen production, but they also signal cells on what to do. So there could be all kinds of different peptides. that help to reduce inflammation, hydrate the skin, calvacteria. So peptides are really a great ingredient to incorporate. Hydration, I feel like everybody should be doing their best to assist your skin in retaining the moisture. And that's with humectants normally will help you kind of bind to water.

And that's like glycerin, hyluronic acid. oils are great. They're amolions and they actually help to repair the cell membrane, but that also helps you retain the moisture. So anything with like oils and them is really good for that. Even for people with oily skin? Yep. Okay.

Yeah, I think it's just depending on which type of skin you have are different kinds of oils that you would be using. And then something to kind of seal in the moisture. I think for someone with oily skin, And I think obviously less is more sometimes with that until you really get to know the ingredients well. But just a humectin is always great. But something is kind of seal in the moisture, like seramides and shay butter is really good. But of course, your sunscreen and eye cream.

People always ask me, do I need an eye cream? I'm like, you do? The ingredients are a bit different, you know, than for the face. But, I mean, worst case in a scenario, you can definitely bring that moisturizer up to the eyes if you need to save money. So basically that's bad. And then at night, that's when I feel like you can... Are you okay?

Do you need a... No. I feel bad. I'm making her work when she's sick. No. This doesn't work. This is fun for me. Okay, good.

Okay, good. So at night, we're going to be doing like acids, like active, alpha hydroxy acids, whatever it is to kind of speed up that cell renewal. But it would... I wouldn't want to wear that during the day, just to avoid any kind of sun sensitivity. So I think that's when you kind of incorporate the toners that have like the alpha hydroxyacopads or whatever, but even serums.

And then vitamin A is great. The one that I recommend to like you and my clients is the fat soluble form, which can be worn morning or night, but I would say the retinoles should just be worn at night. Like the osmosis? That one can be worn twice a day. Okay. But the ones like you find in a lot of ingredients, like the skin suiticals one, for example, that's like a bait straight up retinal. And I saw one of the questions that we had on the comment was a woman wanting to know about the retinae, for example.

That is definitely something you want to be wearing at night because it will make you sun sensitive. What is your position on like a retinae versus like a vitamin A? Personally, I don't like retinae. And it's because it makes everyone so sensitive that they can't really be consistent with it. And I believe it actually kind of starts to thin the dermis. But I just feel it's a little too harsh. It makes people reddened. So then it sensitizes them to do any other treatments.

So there's a better way. And it's that osmosis vitamin A. Isn't it? I love it. It is like hands down my favorite product. I know. Me too. That's why I've almost gotten rid of, I love all my lines, but I feel like I don't have a need to carry any other vitamin A's at this point because it just is for everybody.

Yeah, it is so good. Oh, my God. So what are things that people should not be doing for their skin that they might be doing? I think overwashing like we talked about. Unless you're super oily, I guess you wouldn't want to cleanse twice a day. Also, don't go working out with dirty skin. Or with makeup on? With makeup on.

Also, I feel like if you're working out, it's better to cleanse your face before you go and work out than wash it after. Like, I'd rather have you just rinse your face after you work out, but going to the gym with, like, even just with all the creams that you had on all night, could cause a problem. And I do find a lot of my clients that work out heavily or personal trainers have skin problems. So sometimes, not always, but it can be part of it. And then what else would they not be doing? Sleeping in makeup? Yes, that is horrible. I think somebody asked that.

I saw it. No, I had this. Yeah, it absolutely is one of the worst things that you can do for yourself because you're clogged four. And so dehydrating, right? Mm-hmm. Like, I know that at least when I used to sleep in my makeup, it would wake, it would be cracked when I woke up and my skin would just. Really? Yeah.

It's probably the products that I was using. Yeah. I mean, and then, of course, just like all the, if you're out and about, all the, you want to get rid of all that environmental toxin. So, yeah, you're waking up and it's like, oh, no. Anything else? Off the top of my head. I can't think of, I think, oh, scrubbing. To scrub or not to scrub, not to scrub.

Does that go for brushes, too, like exfoliating brushes and. Yeah, maybe. Because I used to be into the clarisonic until my face started to feel synthetic. and I'm like, wow. And I think it might cause micro-terrorism. I'm not saying it's not for everybody, but I think that maybe just slow down on that because we want to preserve the lipid barrier.

And I think that when you keep scrubbing away, it's stripping away that oil, but also irritating. Can we talk about the lipid barrier for a second? Sure. Because you are all about it. And when I first started working with you, and I still sometimes I'm like, what? I don't know what that is.

So why don't you explain it for everybody? Well, the lipid bearer is basically the outer surface of the skin, otherwise known as the stratum corneum. I love it. And I know a technical term. I want to say it. No. But basically it's comprised of like proteins, water, and oil. And it is the protective barrier for our skin that kind of keeps water in or the hydration in but also pathogens out.

But and it is kind of a waterproof barrier. So it's super important into the health of our skin. obviously because of the hydration and also keeping the pathogens out so when you're over scrubbing and taking it away then you're exposed to the environment and then the hydration is actually leaving your skin much faster than it needs to because transepidermal water loss that process does actually happen naturally but we can actually do things that make it happen a lot slower if we are careful about nourishing this layer of skin so how does one nourish that um like just how you were saying before with the vitamins in the morning and the antioxidants and

all of that. Yeah, like the humectins are really great. I think it's like that three-step process for the hydration is like the humectins, the oils, and then the occlusive, but also like staying away from harsh surfactants. I don't know what any of these words mean. So what's in cleanser? What's occlusive? Occlusive is like that it's a hydrating barrier. It's like in moisturizers, it's usually going to seal in the moisture. Okay. So I think that just making sure that we're boosting our skin's ability to retain moisture is super key in having a healthy epidermal layer.

But also that's what gives the glow, right? Yeah. It's the glow. Yeah. But you can always tell. I mean, that's when I see, and if you ever get like that reddish or almost your skin almost appears dry and tight and thin, that's when that lipid barrier. And a lot of people have asked me about like the dermapalining.

And you did. I asked you about that the other day. I just don't know how I feel about that because I feel, I mean, if you had a lot of dead skin buildup, I could say, or like hair on the face. Right. Okay. But what about for people that are just doing it as, like, I feel like you might be scraping off the listen barrier.

Are you thinking of doing it? Are you with someone asking? I've seen it around a lot. Again, it's like, people are like, this is so amazing. Do it. Yeah. I don't love the idea of it because I feel like, first of all, if you do it, once, then do you have to keep doing it?

I did it once. Okay. And I did feel like I had hair, like whiskers after. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like peach fuzz is there, like as a protective, right? Yeah. Or something.

I don't know. Right. And I don't think we need to make it worse. But I mean, if you had a bunch of hair, it might be a good solution. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I feel like it might not be protecting your lipid barrier.

Mm-hmm. So. Okay. So with so many products on the market, are there any ingredients to look for? like, I guess I'll break it down. So like for acne, is there like an ingredient that people should be looking for in their products? Yeah, I mean, I think that personally my go to is cellic acid. I absolutely love it because it kind of helps with that buildup of dead skin cells and it kind of goes into the pores, kind of dissolves the debris in there, but also helps with any type of inflammation in the skin.

But you're usually going to find a combination of like maybe a glycolic and a lactic. but salicylic first. I think tea tree is really nice. I mean, just oil. Tea tree oil, but you have to be careful because applying it directly on the skin can be aggressive. But I think that that would be a nice addition to a product to look for. But you also want to look for anti-inflammatories in general. And, you know, arnica, chamomile, arbuton, stuff like that is really key for that.

what about for pigmentation that's a huge one yeah um so pigmentation i think that vitamin c is really a great one for pigmentation i we talked about this in our in our youtube video i'm definitely not a proponent of using um hydroquinone for pigmentation too much i mean maybe if you don't have melasma you can play with it as a one-time treatment but not as a daily um just because it will make you sun sensitive the key here is using things that are going to help to fade but to block that pigmentation from happening. But loading up on antioxidants, you cannot go wrong. And also something omega fatty acids, taking that internally is going to really help your body assimilate the UV rays in a different way. It's going to protect you. So I think that

loading up on the omega-3s is like fish. Like a fish? Yeah, fish and, you know, not so much on nuts just because it does contain the omega-6s, but there's a bunch of different food sources that you can get omega-3 from, you know, the algis and even just like vegetables. But as far as other, like pumpkin, mushroom extract are really good. As-a-lake acid is also really good. Licarish root, cogic acid. Those are really good ingredients for pigmentation.

And vitamin A. I mean, how could I forget? The big one. Just buy that, just buy osmosis, vitamin A, everybody. Right. Just buy it. Life changing. Okay, what about for, like, fine lines?

We know that there are some lines that just need the old talks. I know. But what about, like, fine lines? You know, actually, I feel like with the fine lines for me, I don't really use Botox for that. I use Botox for the 11th. Like, those are the lines. I do feel like we can, like the silk pill for me is,

Amazing. How about like micrannoteling? Micronidling, that's great for fine lines. But I feel like if weak antioxidants once again, but keeping the skin super hydrating, you know, collagen supplements, anything that's going to help to stimulate that collagen repair, even silica is super good for that. Taking it internally and applying it on your skin. Peptides are really good stem cells, growth factors.

Another product by osmosis. We love it. A good one, stem factor. Hydropeptide, too, has a pretty good power serum. I think you're on that one too. Oh, yeah. Oh, I need more of that. Yeah.

But yeah, micronealing is really great for fine lines, wrinkles, except for maybe the expression lines, it will soften. But as soon as you start making it again without the talks, it's hard to keep it at bay. But I love microneedling for that because it does kind of just, like, remodel the skin. And it also helps with pores and plumping. I love it.

But so cool. Yeah, we need to. Once you're all fixed there. So if somebody is having issues with breaking out, some of these treatments are probably not appropriate, right? Like microneedling can sometimes kind of aggravate it. Yeah. I definitely think that you need to wait until your skin is clear because if your pores are clogged, then think about this little needle going in and out, not only spreading bacteria,

but just really agitating those pores. So the best way to do it, the miconealing that I do isn't the dragging device. It's a stamping mechanism that actually minimize any type of tearing or anything. And it's actually really, it's a lot less problematic for those kind of skin conditions. But I would say if you do just have clogged pores, do your facial first and then right after you would do your micronealing. But a lot of times I know people are going to like dermatologists and stuff and getting microneed because they want to take care of their scarring. But they still have clogged pores. and they're getting the treatments done and they're exasperating the situation.

I feel terrible. I'm like, why aren't they being told this? This really makes me angry. I think it's just a money. It must be a money thing. Like, oh, they just want to have the service. And there are like these trendy facials now that you see like all over Instagram. Like certain doctors have them and they're just kind of like a one-off thing.

And yeah. Yeah. But I wouldn't you want the people to keep coming back? Yeah. No, it reminds me of what you were. saying like you you want to see people more than once like when you were working in a spa you would see them once and that was it right um the relationship you want to be on the journey like i want to be on my client's journeys but see i think you're different in that way i don't think everybody wants that

oh they're like one and done yeah they can charge like hundreds and hundreds of dollars and then the person posts about it and then they get more people coming in and yeah yeah so if somebody is having an issue with their skin what would you say is the first thing they should do Um, so I think that rather than going out and spending a bunch of money, excuse me, a-oh. Ariel's getting me sick, guys. She got bronchitis. She gave it to me.

Mike, you're next. Don't go out and buy a bunch of things immediately. I think the easiest thing for you to do, they're all free, really. Just maybe do a food diary. I mean, is this someone like all of a sudden their skin freaked out or just somebody. Yeah, just somebody. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. We'll pretend that's the situation.

Bring, just start keeping a food diary for at least a week, breaking down everything that you're eating during the day and how you're feeling. Maybe are you getting bloated? Do you feel brain fog after? I think that maybe starting to drink more water would be helpful. But also, I think getting a holistic practitioner involved at this point would be helpful. But as far as, I wouldn't necessarily go straight to a bunch of products, though. I think the best thing to do is take a look at the diet and then also take a look at anything in your environment that might be dirty. Like clean your brushes, your cell phones, change your pillowcase often.

You know, kind of look at things like that. and also try to eliminate any chemicals in the environment. If you feel like there is something big happening, you know, some of the contaminants are water bottles, you know, maybe get an air purifier, things like that. They're maybe creating a sluggish liver. Because you always maybe want to look, getting a colonic actually could help small.

Speaking of liver. But I think that there's just a lot of things that you can do internally to help, you know, keep. that situation from getting out of hand while you're looking for a skin professional to help you. Just I think that if it's something that's a big deal, you kind of don't want to take it into your own hands. You can spend so much money down that road, you know, and then just that person can at least subscribe or prescribe some products for you and then deal with it yourself if you don't want to

keep going back. But yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know like in my experience kind of going back to what I was saying before. before like when I was I think right before I came to you I mean I would spend you can anybody can go to seforra right and be like okay I'm going to get this cleanser and toner and this whatever you know get all these products that are promised to do certain things and you walk out and it's three four five hundred dollars later yeah whereas you can go to someone like you spend a third of that you can take a look at their skin figure out exactly what you think is going on at least and

give them some good direction and start there. Yeah. And it's, yeah, I mean, I understand why people think that it's like too expensive or a luxury. But I think everybody can do it if they just kind of like pare down because you're going to spend that money on the products. Exactly. That's what I was thinking. Yeah.

And that's why if you just don't, you spend that $150 or $200 that you would spend at Sephora and just get a facial. But do your research first and make sure that person. is, you know, look at their before and afters, make sure that, you know, they have good reviews and they actually do deal with whatever skin condition that you're dealing with rather than just going to say, sorry, Burke Williams. Sorry, Mark Williams. I don't think they're listening, so it's okay. Actually, that was one of the first jobs I was considering, but, you know, they wanted four weeks non-paid training. Wow.

And I was like, who can do that? See, your business degree did come in handy. Come in handy. I don't even know how to speak anymore. You're doing great. Thanks. Thank you. So if you were only allowed one product, what would it be?

We know what it would be. Hands down, don't we? Osmosis? Yeah. The vitamin A. Only because I feel that even though it's not necessarily a feel good product, luxury product, it is by far the one that's going to give me the best mileage on what it is for because it's good for like the aging keeps the oil balance you know it's going to

help with inflammation help with DNA repair and all of that so and it just makes your even when you just put it on it makes your skin so glowy doy and glowy yeah okay so we have a lot of listener questions i'm going to go through here and just we probably covered a lot of these but um How many serums can you layer for day and night and still be effective? Okay, so I layer, okay, I cocktail. This is what I've learned to do. I cocktail them saves time. And honestly, there might be a little buffering action that happens.

But I do probably five serums at one time. Because a lot of my serums are specialized. You know, I find that when they have too many ingredients, they're not going to be as effective as if it was just like one specific targeting ingredients. So I have like literally five that I'll cocktail together, apply that on. And I would say, I don't really know if there's a number, but I imagine at a certain point it's a little too much for your skin to handle. Right. But I think maybe five, you try to keep it up fine.

That's kind of high. But that's what I do. And I'm not falling apart just yet. No, no, you look amazing. Thank you. This is kind of on that same liner. There's skin product combinations that people use together, but maybe they shouldn't. so maybe people shouldn't be

cocktailing these? That is a really good question. Hmm, I have to think about that for a second. Actually, I recently heard, shout out Mary O'Malley. She told me a tip that you're not supposed to mix oil and sunscreen together. Apparently it breaks down the, you know, the SBF factor.

So, okay, that's good to know. And if I think of anything else while we're going. This one's easy. Any go-to brand names or is it two individual to each person's skin? Well, I think that there's, I'm not going to say that the lines that I carry are like the only lines that are amazing because there's tons. But the ones that I've chosen are hand selected because I've seen results and they work. And hydropeptide, osmosis, PCA, and even envy medical, they work. So those are the ones that I do recommend.

But of course, it's hard for me to recommend a product and thus I'm actually seeing you. I mean, I actually do Skype now. I'll see their skin that way, but I can make recommendations. But I think that those lines are really good, but I've heard of so many other ones that work for others. So someone asks, what's your take on Biologic?

I like you want to love them so much. In fact, when I was first an ascetician, I was buying all those little vials and stuff. I'm like, it's like a thousand dollars for like... I spent a fucking ridiculous amount of money on their stuff in New York. Oh, I bet. And I still like it, but it just... I was going through something at the time, I think, with my skin that was unrelated to what I was doing topically.

And I think it was just maybe... Was not helping. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a good brand. I do. And I had this mask, but I can't remember what it's called. It's like made from good. something rather?

Vivant? Maybe. It smelled got awful. It's not like liver. Yeast? That's what it was. But I was like, I think it was good, but I just couldn't bring myself to put it on my skin, you know.

I got the placenta. Did I tell you this? I actually loved it, but it's funny because, I mean, all of their products, they don't put any kind of like perfumes or anything like that. So they're very, like, stripped down. It's just the ingredients, the active ingredients. or whatever. And the placenta came with a warning on the packaging that said like, warning, this product smells like its active ingredients, which is placenta.

That's god awful. Yeah. And I was just like, I can't, I can't get into bed next to my husband, like smelling like a placenta face. That's your single. Then you can smell like whatever you want. Yeah. He doesn't really, he has like no sense of smell, actually. So it was more me. I just I just couldn't deal with it. Oh my God, that's hysterical. Okay. Oh, I want to actually, I thought of something about that first question. That isn't, so, you know, when you're using a vitamin A, say like a retinae or retinol,

you want to be careful about pairing it with acids. They can actually be very powerful together, but I think that sometimes it can be super sensitizing to combine those products unless you've already been doing it. So, yeah, so that would be. And just anything active combining that. together could create sensitivity. So that was the thought that was coming. Okay, love it. The wheels are turning. The wheels are turning and burning. Smoke. It's coming out. How can someone tell if their skin is dry versus dehydrated? Is there a difference? Yeah, the skin

dry, kind of has this almost like dry skin look on the surface, almost like a chapped look, where dehydration kind of looks like open pores. Lack of luster, dull. Yeah. Flaky is dry. Right. Right. I feel like dehydration is like shriveled also.

Yeah. Think of prune. Best cleanser for oily skin. How can I get more collagen? Okay. Those are two separate questions. Yeah. Disjointed.

Yeah. Okay. So best cleanser for oily. skin. I think a salicylic would be really nice. Anything with actually lactic glycolic acids are really nice. Let's see. PC does have a benzoproxide cleanser that I have no one. With the niacinamide, which actually makes it really more gentle. I know that there's a lot of talk about benz oil not being good, but I have not had any problems with people using that like sensitizing. It's a great cleanser for an oily skin person. And the second part of that...

How to get more collagen? Well, that... Topically and supplementally? Supplementally... I'm like losing it over here. No, but you're doing so good. I so appreciate... I'm like, well, all of a sudden I'm like lighting up

because I just love talking about skin, I guess. You're natural at this. Thanks. I just really love talking about skin and products, I guess. So internally, you just want to make sure that you are, you know, taking things that are going to give yourself the raw materials that are needed. But even just taking collagen supplements, like I said, the silica, vitamin C, nicenamine, zinc. You want to be getting your minerals very important. Omega fatty acids are super

important. All of those are to contribute to the collagen production. And topically, I think growth factors are amazing at the stem cell production. But vitamin C and, oh, sulfur. is also a really great ingredient for somebody with acne, by the way, that popped in... Interesting. MSM is also good for collagen building as well. Yeah. What is your favorite vitamin C product, especially for acne scars or hyperpigmentation? I think the one that I've, okay.

The C and D? The C and D? C and E. C and D. I was going to say C and D, but also, Asmosis has one. It's called Catalyst. That's really great. Not so much maybe for acne, but probably the PCA C&E for the pigmentation, acne, because it's not as hydrating. Any recommendations for keratosis polaris? That one, probably salicylic acid.

What is this? That's like those little bumps. Oh, okay. Right? that happen on the arms particularly, that would be good. It's been a lot of dead skin built up. You may even want to try dandruff shampoo. Could work. Interesting. What do you recommend to treat underlying congestion?

Hydrate? Underlying congestion. So that's kind of tied into, I think, blackheads in a way where it's kind of a tricky situation. I mean, obviously you probably want to get extractions, professional extractions, but take a look at any type of inflammation. and mucus that's building up in your body, are you eating a lot of mucusy promoting foods?

You know, and so try to go on an anti-inflammatory diet avoiding, you know, heavy meats and red meats and maybe a lot of nuts and eggs and dairy, things that are going to create mucus. But also, do you have a lot of allergies? That would be my other question, because a lot of times when people have a lot of allergies, there's that histamine reaction that's happening, that is creating a lot of inflammation.

and again, mucus. So if you're getting a lot of clogged pores, I do believe that there is a connection between that builds up in the body. Okay. But topically, you know, the acids, once again, vitamin A. Going back to the same, like for me, I know it feels like it's repetitive, but I really do feel that there are a lot of just like main few key ingredients that you can just stick their like staples.

And then all the other ones are just like, oh, green tea. and all these other things are really important, but if you just stick to the key ingredients, then keeping it simple sometimes is nice, is best. What? I'm getting this one a lot, so hold on. I just lost it. What do you recommend for redness?

Well, so what kind of redness, I guess? I mean, there's, when I see redness, I mean, depending on the type, but I would say generally it's the lipid, barrier that's been impaired. So we need to be thinking about anti-inflammatories first, if that's like the main issue. So, you know, Arnica, we've got Ellen Toin, which is amazing for reducing inflammation, comfrey, camomile. I love essential oils, lavender even.

Frankenstance is great for reducing redness. but let's see, vitamin C could also be very helpful, but I think that also just trying to repair that lipid barrier backing off on any, like, acids maybe at that time, just kind of take a look and see if that's going to help. Maybe you're overdoing it with the xtholians. That could be part of it. But if you are, if your lipid barrier is impaired, then you're probably getting irritated from the environment,

which is exasperating that situation. Okay. Let's do one more. How often should we be getting peals or facials with active acne? I like to put people on a two-week protocol. It's like my boot camp style. Just because if you do have acne, you'll find that after two weeks,

the pores are starting to fill up again. So we kind of really want to stay on top of that cell cycle. A full cell cycle is about 45 days for a normal person. To get a transformation, you really want to stay ahead of that process. So I would say every two weeks would be great. Yeah. Amazing.

I feel like I should have like a closing out question. I know. Well, I wanted to actually say something then as a false. Well, I forgot to address stress. Oh, yeah. You know, I think that one of the first things to do and one of the most important things to do is to kind of take a look at the stress levels in your life. And if you can get adequate sleep and, you know, just utilizing. modalities that are free to tap into to help to relieve your stress that would probably be very helpful

with your skin care regime walking out in nature walking on grass barefoot barefoot yes simple free you know tapping you know meditation really getting there because I feel that a lot of our aging and acne problems start from within anyways and it's not just about the diet and lifestyle it's about all that those stress hormones they're being released so I have to an opportunity to say that. I'm happy. No, but it's so huge and it affects us in so many different ways. And I'm so glad that you brought that up because I can really wreak havoc on our bodies

and our skin and everything. And yeah, sleep too. Sleep is so important. I'm on like three hours right now and I feel like my skin is like that shrively. I was up all night. I was not because of this, right? Well, partially, I woke up at 1.30 in the morning. hot

hot. What's it called? H-A-F. You can swear. Hot ass punk. And I was like sweating profusely. And so when I'm such a light sleeper. I want, I turn the AC on,

which I hate. I do not like sleeping. And then I couldn't go back to bed because I'm thinking about skin. What am I going to say? If this situation pops, I am such a weirdo because I'm a perfectionist. I just really want to deliver,

you know, quality and, you know. But the thing is you're so passionate and you're so knowledgeable. And so it just flows out of you. I remember when we did our video, which if you guys haven't watched our YouTube video, I think it's my first YouTube I ever posted actually. So go back there. You were nervous, right?

I was nervous. I was like, oh, I just hate being in front of a camera. And you were such a natural. So are you. Thank you. Well, thank you for having me. This has been so wonderful. I feel like you need your own show.

Oh. Only if we do it together. Okay. I love it. Oh, I love you, Ariel. Thank you so much. I love you too. Thank you for coming on.

I'm sure I'll have you back because I'm sure I'm going to get so many more questions after this. Aw. It was really great. And thank you, anyone who has been listening. Where can people find you? So they can find me at high vibration skincare. I'm on Instagram, high vibration skincare. And you can email me at Ingrid at guess what?

High vibration skincare. Okay, wait. I need to say something because your newsletters have been going to my spam this whole time. And I just noticed and I've been reading them. And they are like so jam packed with information. I don't know how much how you have the time to do that. I mean, you're such a good writer and they're just so informative. Is there a way that people can sign up to get those? Go to my website. Okay, good. I don't know if it was only like a client thing. No, not at all. Anyone could sign up for it. I would love it. Thank you. You just did one about black. kids and I was like wow. I learned so much. Thank you. Yeah. All right. So everyone go check her out.

And if you live in L.A., I highly recommend, highly, high vibration. Get it? Yeah. Go see her. It's life changing. Oh, thank you, love. And I'll talk to you guys next week. Okay.

Bye. Bye.