Well with Arielle Lorre - 128: Get The Fuck Out Of The Sun with Lauryn Bosstick

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

In this episode I’m talking to author, podcaster and founder of The Skinny Confidential, Lauryn Bosstick, about all things beauty and wellness. Given that we are both skincare and aesthetics devotees, we have an open and candid conversation about beauty standards, best and worst beauty practices, botox, filler and surgery and her unique approach to skincare. We also talk about how her beauty and wellness approach has evolved over the years; how having double jaw surgery changed both her identity and the trajectory of her career; why subscribing to irreversible beauty trends is a bad idea; the craziest things she’s done for wellness; what she realized when she micro dosed mushrooms; how to focus on our own lives instead of everyone else’s and so much more.    www.DrinkLMNT.com/BlondeFiles to claim your free sample pack for the cost of shipping. www.Helloned.com/BLONDE for 15% off your first one-time order or 20% off your first subscription plus free shipping. www.Athleticgreens.com/BLONDEFILES to claim you free year supply of Vitamin D and 5 free travel packs today. www.Headspace.com/BLONDE for a free one-month trial.   Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Sonderger Go to your Reisadviceor Orsonicccats. The following podcast is A Dear Media Production Hey, welcome to the Blond Files podcast. I'm your host, Ariel Lori, and I'm here to talk all things wellness. From how to achieve optimal health and well-being to the best beauty tips and everything in between, no topic is off limits.

I know there is so much information out there, so I'm here to help you navigate it all and live your best life. Thanks for listening. Let's get into it. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the show. Happy to have you here. Happy to have received a lot of positive feedback after last week's episode with Brian, my producer, from everything that I read and that I saw. It sounded like you guys liked that format, just the very kind of relaxed conversational format that I think really supports having a really genuine, authentic conversation. And even though we were using your questions from Instagram, it wasn't so much as like a formal Q&A, like when I do a solo Q&A episode myself.

So I was happy to hear that and it is noted and I think you guys can probably look forward to more episodes like that in the future. And today I also have a really fun episode for you. I have Lauren Bostic back on. If you haven't listened to the episode that she did on my show back in March with Michael, her husband. In that episode, we talked more about like brand building and business and it was a while ago so I can't remember exactly what. but we got into a lot of topics in that episode that we're not necessarily going to cover today. Today is very much beauty and wellness focused. She and I are both skincare, beauty, devotees, officiados. And so I always have a good time talking with her about all of that.

So this episode is really chalk full of just so much from, of course, her famous tips and tricks. But we just have a really candid conversation about beauty standards. and best and worst beauty practices and of course Botox filler and surgery and her approach to skin care. And we talk about how her approach to beauty and wellness has evolved over the years. She gets really candid about her double jaw surgery, which really gave her an identity crisis, and it changed the trajectory of her career. And obviously it worked out to be a really positive thing, but it's just interesting to hear her experience with that. We talk about why, subscribing to irreversible beauty trends can be a bad idea. We talk about the craziest things she's

done for wellness. We talk about a revelation that she had when she microdosed on mushrooms. We talk about how to tune out the noise and focus on our own lives instead of everyone else's and so, so much more. So I hope you guys enjoy it. And as always, if you're enjoying the show, I really love when you share it, but it also would mean a lot to leave a review, follow the podcast if you're not, subscribe, leave a rating, all of that good stuff. It really helps to keep it in the charts when we are swimming in a sea of podcast soup. Okay. Anyway, without further ado, Lauren Bostic. All right, well, welcome, Lauren. So happy to be back here with you. Sorry, I was drinking a Tumarek shot from Sun Life. Very on brand and very on theme for this episode. So when we recorded

last time, I interviewed both you and Michael. So if anybody is listening and they haven't listened to that, definitely go back. We talked about business and family and brand building and all of that. But today I really want to talk to you about beauty and wellness. And it's funny because before the interview, I was trying to find old interviews that you've done and I found something. I think it was like the Delmar Times. probably like 12 or 13 years ago when you were just starting out. And it was when you wanted to do like nutrition, like fitness and nutrition. And when you had started your blog, I think it's so cool. Like I was reading it kind of like, oh my God, I'm so proud of her. Like that's how I felt.

Just because you've been so intentional this whole time and you've obviously built like a monster brand since then. But I would be curious to hear about the evolution. Like just for people that don't know how you started the skinny confidential. And then. how it evolved, and then we'll get into like all the beauty and wellness stuff that's your forte. That is so funny that you found that article that is very, very vintage. I started it definitely as a health and wellness niche, but I did know that I was going to expand that. So I started to notice that the girls on campus that I was going to school with were complaining about weight gain. And so at the time, I started modifying everything.

I would go to Starbucks and say, you know, can I get a passion iced tea, no sugar, no syrup, no water, just passion fruit, add green tea. Like I would do all these, like another example is we had Rubios on campus and everyone would eat all this Rubios. And so I would say, can I get the street tacos wrapped in lettuce? So I wanted to share this with someone. So simultaneously, I did what I'm supposed to do and join the sorority. I put that in quotes. And literally two hours after joining, I left because they wanted $800 a semester to have friends and community. And so both of that was sort of how the skinny confidential came to be.

I didn't want to pay $800 for friends and community. And I wanted to share my modification tips and tricks, but also learn other people's. So it definitely started as health and nutrition. As I started to evolve, the audience sort of evolved with me and it became more beauty and wellness. When I started, though, I was a teacher at Pure Bar, Pilates, very fitness and health-focused. So that is where it came to be. The Skinny Confidential has nothing to do with being skinny. It's like getting the details, getting the juice, getting the skinny.

What was your lifestyle like back then? Because I know you were bartending to and you were teaching fitness classes. Were you into health and doing all of this stuff yourself at the time, aside from doing like the modifications? How active were you? what was your diet like all of that? I was so broke and so poor. I was living at my godparents' house. For free, I was working all hours. I remember going to dinner with a group of all of these super wealthy girls from my town and my credit card declining. It actually wasn't a credit card. It was a debit card. Excuse me. I never had a credit card actually until I got married.

And I always was trying to figure it out. So I was running on empty in my bank. but I kept finding strategic ways to work it out. So I would pick up a job, like I said, at Pierbar or Pilates or a catering job or work a little longer at the bar all while supporting my side hustle. And I think that a lot of people tell you go work for someone nine to five and then switch jobs and see what you like. My advice would say go into the service industry where you can work at night and work on your side hustle and use your energy towards that.

So by the time you've put in three years of service industry, you've made your money, but you've also been able to build what you want to build and whatever your craft is. I'm very happy I did that instead of working nine to five looking back. Yeah, I mean, if you're working nine to five, that's all of your time there. And then there's barely anything left over. So it makes sense that you can kind of tailor your schedule a little bit better if you're doing a job like that. And the light. Okay. If you're shooting pictures, you know when you get home at five, that doesn't work.

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is okay to discuss and doesn't have to be so taboo? Life throws curveballs at us on a daily, and the least we can do is cater to the relationship that we have with ourselves. So catch a new episode of my podcast, Because Life, every Wednesday to hear me and a mental health professional go there. As we dive deep, be vulnerable, probably cry and definitely laugh to discuss issues we all battle that become part of our mental health journey. Look, I get it. Life is hard. But talking about it together can make it a little bit easier. Tune in every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. This is kind of something that we touched on in the last episode, but I remember seeing it in the listener questions quite often for this episode. And a lot of

people wanted to know how to break into this space and break into the wellness space. Is it too saturated, which we got into in detail before? But also, a lot of people are a little bit older and they want to leave their nine to five or they're not feeling satisfied with whatever job they're doing and they want to transition to, you know, blogging, influencing, podcasting, whatever, but they feel like they're too old. So how do you feel about that? I think that's an excuse. Yeah. I think it's, I think that they need to get out of their own way. And this is an unpopular opinion. I think the saturation excuse is saturated. I'm bored with that. I feel that you are making an excuse of why you're not doing something. So what I would tell you to do is the same

advice I just said. I would quit your 9 to 5 and I would go work at a restaurant as a bartender. And I'll tell you why. As a bartender, you learn how to finesse energy. So I'm talking to you, but I'm also feeling over here what he needs while also ringing things up, while also making sure that the kitchen's okay, while also making sure that table 45 is okay. So you learn how to move energy and finesse it. So you learn, it's the same with social media. You you need to understand and read the room. So that's number one. The other thing is you learn how to multitask. You learn how to be effective and you learn how time management. Like you're there, you have to get things in quick, but you're also able to come home and work on your side hustle.

For me, it's a win-win with the service industry. I would recommend it to anyone that's trying to break into influencing. It's like use your daytime towards the hustle and then at night, go learn people and study people and human nature. Bartending is, I think everyone should do it just once. Yeah, and it's character building. I mean, a lot of people say, like, everybody should work in the service industry at some point. And I kind of agree with that for that reason. But we were just talking off mic about, like, TikTok, and there are so many platforms now where you can grow so quickly that it's crazy. I mean, I think that, like, yeah, it's so saturated. And that means that anybody can break into it. There's room for everybody. So. Yeah, I think that with TikTok,

It's hard, you know, it's hard to evolve as a creator too. It's like we're so attached to doing what we do every day, which is like podcasts and then Instagram and Instagram story. And it's like another platform. But at the same time, you do have to be malleable and evolve. Even though it's hard when you're stuck in this. But I think that with TikTok, there is so much room, like you said, to grow big and grow fast. It's like, why not take a niche idea?

You know, I say like if you like sea monkeys, do a whole TikTok, dedicated to sea monkeys. There's other people in the world that like that. You have to find what makes your perspective unique while engaging the audience. So again, it's a finesse. It's a dance. But if you're out there and you're saying that the industry is saturated, you've got to get a new excuse. Yeah. Well, I'm glad we address that because it's like every time I'm talking to you, everybody wants to know that because I think so many people want to break in so many people, especially after the last year, or feeling like dissatisfied or like, They just want to transition into something else.

They're reevaluating everything. And I think you're such a good person to talk to you about that. But let's get to beauty. I feel like you and I could talk about this stuff all day. And we have limited time. So what was your beauty routine like when you started Skinny Confidential? Now you're a proponent, obviously, of like staying the F out of the sun. That's your big thing.

Skincare. Were you into tanning beds? Like what was your beauty regimen when you started or even before the blog? I had the Playboy Bunny sticker on my lower hip in high school. I went to a tanning bed every single Friday. I fucked up my nails with acrylic tips. I have gotten bad extensions. I've sort of tried it all. And then my mom always instilled in me to stay out of the sun and sunscreen. So as I got older into my high school years, I started to see what she was talking about. So hyperpigmentation. And I'm the type of person when I notice something, I'll quickly change my behavior. So, So, you know, I started to get a sun mustache and then birth control on top of that, a bad glycolic peel. It started coming up. So I started to notice this. And in anything in my life, I try to be preventative.

I've been like that since I was little. So I realized, okay, I can continue to lay in the sun. It's going to get worse. Or I can nip this in the bud and just stay out of it. And I really think for me, this is not for everyone, that staying out of the sun helps my skin. Am I in a cave? No. Like, I'll open the shades in the morning.

Right now we're sitting in the sun. I just think I get enough incidental sun exposure that I don't need to be baking in a tanning bed or the sun. My routine obviously has evolved as I got older, but I got Botox very, very young. No one was getting at this young when I got it. Like, I was 21 years old, maybe even 20. And people thought I was fucking crazy. And again, I was being preventative. I saw that line getting deeper and deeper, and I was like, I might as well nip this in the bud.

Looking back, I'm really glad I got it young. But if my daughter came to me right now and wanted it, I would tell her no. So I get both sides. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, there's so much there that I want to unpack first. I'm just curious, were you always able to nip something in the butt and change the behavior as soon as it was brought to your attention? And where do you think that came from?

My parents raised me with a mentality to figure it out. If I wanted something, go get it. So this is a stupid example, but I wanted a boob job for like six years. The second I turned 18 and graduated high school, I got one. And that's because they were like, you want it, go figure it out. So you want that car, go get it. You want that job, go apply for it. It was never coddling.

It was always like, you have to go after what you want. Both my parents were entrepreneurs. So I saw that aspect of it too. and I think the way I want to raise my daughter is not like, here's this, here's this, here's this. It's like you want this. Go figure out a way to get it. I think that was helpful and it's been helpful in my career. Sure, there's probably negatives to it.

But I do think it's helped me with being preventative and proactive. I just feel like for me, I was told also by my parents, especially my mom who's like skincare obsessed as well. and she was a sun worshipper and she got so, so dark until she was like 30-ish, and then she completely stopped. But I feel like for me, at least at that age, like I was just so defiant. And it was so in to be tan and you would go on spring break and come back and like go in the tanning booth on top of it and try to be tanner than your friends. And I was not able to stop it. I mean, I was like doing it through my 20s. But I think for some people, because I know the argument, I think, that you were referring to, that, like, vitamin D is good for you. And you hear people

kind of counter the argument of staying out of the sun with that. Like, no, it's healthy. We need the sun. We've been living in the sun for, like, our entire history. And it does all these things for you. So many benefits. But I also think that, like, skin type comes into play. You and I are blonde, fair-skinned, blue-eyed. I have friends who have different skin than me. And they can sit in the sun and put some sunscreen on, but get a real tan. And they still have, like, flawless. My friend Ingrid, my friend Ingrid is in the sun every single day and she, in person, she has the most gorgeous skin. That's just her makeup. I think everyone's different when it comes to getting the fuck out of the sun.

But I'm sharing my journey. And a lot of people in this book said, lay in the sun. Jessie Golden is, and she has beautiful skin. Is it a huge proponent of laying in the sun? She does butthole sunning or she suns her butthole. And listen, you've got to do what works for you. What are the benefits of butthole sunning? It's actually amazing and I do it with red light therapy.

Okay. So I like bend over like I'm in doggy style. I'm not even kidding you in front of my juve. And what it does and people can go look this up. I'm not, you know, I'm not being funny. I'm being serious. It actually like invigorates you and gives you energy because our buttholes or Michael's ball sack is not used to seeing the sun.

So it's like a place that the sun never gets to. It's also called yawning sunning. like vagina sunning. Like I'm not going to lay outside in the sunning my butthole because I'm not a huge fan of the sun and laying in the sun. But when it comes to my red light, it's really like you do feel it. It's crazy. And Brian, I know you're taking notes to go do it.

I hear Brian laughing back there. Brian, pull your butthole out. One of my questions today was going to be like, what's the craziest thing you've done for beauty or wellness? We can get to that, but that sounds like it might be up there. I feel like though when I was in the tanning bed twice a day. every day in high school, I was getting sun at my butt. That is true. In the tanning bed, you get it on your but if you think about it, you feel rejuvenated when you get out of the tanning bed. Very rejuvenated.

I know. You have a nap and then you wake up and you're like, whoa. That's because the butthole's sunning. The butthole sunning. All right. Well, the more you know. I should have put the Playboy funny sticker on my butthole. Do tanning beds even exist anymore? I mean, do people still go? They do because I wanted to call this book, get the fuck out of the tanning bed. I like the sun better. Now it's easy. It rolls off the tongue easier. But they do exist. And I didn't, I didn't want to hurt anyone's business. Oh, yes. The sun's not a business, right? You would be, you definitely pissed somebody off. There's someone to get annoyed with every single thing nowadays. So, 100%. There's probably like 500 people getting annoyed with this right now. Okay. So you said that you did preventative Botox at 21.

How was that on your radar? I mean, how did you find out? about these different beauty things. Was it just from researching things for your blog? Was it somebody in your life? It's a research. I had a trapper keeper. It was pink. I had every single article pulled out. This is a different time, right? This is 2011. I had a built-in blog in this trapper keeper. And it's interesting. It's so old school. It's so old school. I look back on my life and my favorite thing to do when I was little, like obsessively was scrapbook. And so what I've realized is I've essentially been blogging. since I was like seven years old. I enjoy the process of creating things out of nothing

and sort of journaling, but in a creative way, like not just writing. Not that writing's not creative, but like more visuals. So with the Trapper Keeper, I had all these articles. I was really into research, internet, asking people questions,

doctors, all the things. And so I just found someone who was super conservative because I was young, interviewed her, interviewed a couple other doctors. And all I did was just the 11s, just between here. And it was so minimal and so little and just not a big deal. And I'm a big fan too of not going overboard. Like if you're going to do Botox, I wouldn't say go in and do your eyes, your 11, your forehead. I would say just try a little bit somewhere to see how you like it. Also, like I'm sure you've covered this. Don't go get a group on. You got to find something.

someone who knows what they're doing. And that's not an Instagram ad that's serving you. I'm really find someone who understands you because a lot of the doctors will try to give you more, more, more. Yeah, I remember I first got Botox at this point. It was like seven years ago. But I think also, when you have never put it in your body before, you respond to it like crazy. Like a tiny bit goes a long way. I was at my dermatologist actually getting a skin check. I was maybe like a year or two sober. and I had all these wrinkles in my forehead from sun damage and just, you know, treating my body like shit for so long. And I remember they asked if I wanted Botox. I didn't even really know what it was, but they only put a few units in.

And I was like this table, like so smooth, couldn't move anything except my eyebrows up and down just a tiny bit. And it's so funny because I look back on it now and I'm like, that was my first high. and I've been chasing that high ever since. It's so much like the first time that I did cocaine. Like, I remember it so well. I was so high. It was the best thing in the world. And then every single time after it that you're doing it,

you're trying to chase that same feeling, even though you never really get it back. So you do like more and more and more. And I feel like people do that with aesthetics. Like the first time you do Botox or filler, you do a little bit and a little bit goes a long way. And you love it. It feels so good.

And then you want to keep like chasing that. And so that's how people end up looking like crazy. especially in L.A. I completely agree with you. And I do think that you have to be careful because problem is, is once you do one thing, then you're like, oh, I can do this too. And I've seen it with so many people, including myself. Like, I remember one time I overfilled my lips too much.

It was too much. And I think it's a fine line, right? You have to be careful. I think these conversations are important. I think what's maybe problematic is when people don't talk about it and they say they haven't got anything done, and we've talked about this before, it starts to create these unrealistic standards. I've tried to be really honest. I know you have, too, about what we've had done. So people, you know, don't think my boobs are natural. I mean, I'm not, also, I'm not going to apologize for getting

fake tits. If that makes someone uncomfortable, that's their problem, not mine. Yeah. I've always been like that since I was little. I'm not going to apologize for something I want to do to my own I would never expect anyone to apologize for anything they've done. I'm just saying, if you've done it, own it. Who cares? I have been talking about the benefits of CBD for a while now, and I do have an episode coming up where we're going to take a deep dive, but I have to say I'm so grateful for it, especially right now, because not only does it help with things like anxiety and

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zero disclosure about it, so so many people who are like their devoted fans don't even know that it's surgery, I think that's a really interesting point. And that's where it gets really problematic. Like if somebody is looking up to you, for example, and they don't know that you had surgery if you hadn't disclosed that, you know, then it's really creating damage, I think, for people. Yeah, I think it's like a twofold thing. You have to train yourself not to be triggered and led by it. You have to really, you know, have a strong intuition, a strong confidence in yourself. So I would say we can all work on that. I think the more you work on your confidence, I'm not a fan of the word trigger. Like, I, I never want to think anything triggers me. Only I can trigger myself. If something triggers me,

I need to look into why that triggers me. So I think, like, making it like outside people have the ability to trigger you, it's like, okay, let's turn that around, maybe mute that person and figure out what's going on. So that's one part. And the other part is, is this. It's that if you are subscribing to the trend in social media that's happening right now, it actually can end up being aging. And let me explain what I mean. So when I got my fake boobs, I got big fake boobs because that was in trend. And now that's not really in trend. So it actually ends up dating you to where you are. Another example is Michael has tattoos. And I've told him when he's 60 years old, people are going to know he's 60 years old because at the time when he was 30, tattoos were cool. So you also have to

like be careful how much you follow the trends of plastic surgery or social media because it ends up almost not youthful and working against you. Does that make sense? Yes. And I say this all the time, like especially the thing with brow lifts that are like pulling up the tails of your eyebrows, like you're going to be able to look back in five or 10 years and know that somebody did that at this time because it's, it's trendy right now, but it's going to go out of fashion in a few years. And I think that, like, it's such a dangerous game. And I think so many people are falling into that trap right now where they're trying to do like the Bella Hadid face. And I always use her just because it's such an easy example. I think she's beautiful. But not everybody can pull that off, but so many people are

trying. And I totally agree with you that it ages you. Not to mention, like, even just a lot of these procedures, like the buckle fat removal, the brow. lift with the tails lifted really high, that really will age a face. It will age a face. And also, listen, I think that, like, for me, I want to be on a mission to look the best version of me. I don't want to look like anyone else besides me. And I think hopefully that trend is coming into trend because I think it, it, you're so right about it ends up aging you and working against you. You know, we talked on my podcast. Maybe one day, I might want to get my boobs out and get a fat transfer, leave them how they are.

Like, I don't know if I'll want huge boobs in 10 years. So I think there's pros and cons of plastic surgery. You have to be careful. You have to do your own research. You have to be your own guru. So you mentioned that you did your boobs pretty young and you did the Botox. Is there anything else that you've done since then? Or what do you do to maintain?

So I have obviously filled my lips. I talk about it all the time. I look amazing. I've been looking at your shape this whole time. I'm like, that is the shape that everybody wants with the lip lift, like just a little bit higher in the Cupid's bow. I see I'm like, I'm like, maybe I want a little more. No, it looks really good. I have not had any plastic surgery done to my face, but I have had jaw surgery, which was a whole fucking thing. I mean, I had a full-blown identity crisis, like a real identity crisis where I could not look in the mirror for two years. This is so interesting to me because it's so popular now, maybe not necessarily double jaw

surgery. But yeah, I think so. Were they like orthonathic surgery? And then when they break the jaw and shaving it down, I mean, so many people in the public eye are doing it. And so many influencers, not really people in the wellness space, but like, you know, different kinds of influencers, like Instagram models. And I remember you saying like how traumatic it was and how hard of a recovery it was and how you had the identity crisis. So it just seems like so much to go through electively when it's not for an actual issue. I know that you had popping and you were clenching your teeth and can you tell people if they're not familiar, which I'm sure most people are, but why you had that surgery in the first place? So I had my top and bottom broken, no shaving.

And it was four problems. I was experiencing the worst grinding you've ever heard. It sounded horrific. I was snoring like it was embarrassing to sleep next to me. My bite was off. My teeth were getting grinded down. I was literally going to have. no teeth by the time I was like 40. It was so bad. And this was something that I had been told I needed since I was 12. And finally, I'm like, I'm just going to do it. I'm going to get it over with. I thought I'd be swollen for a month. I was swollen for two years. And it's not the swelling that even fucked me up. It was looking in the mirror and not recognizing yourself and thinking, oh my God, what did I do? And not having anyone to talk to because you can't. No one.

everyone's going to understand that. It's a very, like, weird thing. And then having people say online, like, oh, she overfilled her face because I was swollen. Like, there was no filler in my face at this time. And the last thing in the fucking world I wanted was, was filler in my face. Right. So to have, like, everyone saying rude things. But I am so glad it happened. And anything in life that's bad, there's always a silver lining. It happened because, one, I think it's a really good, reminder not to lead with your looks. And I'm not saying like I was leading with my looks. I'm just saying it humbled me. Like it cracked my ego open and it made me start creating content that was maybe more meaningful without me in it. So I started making it even more about the audience. So that was one thing.

And then eventually I ended up launching a product line that had to do with bloating. I still to this day have two screws in my face. I've had the plates removed. And I still get swollen every single morning. So people, and now that I'm talking about facial swelling, so many women have messaged me saying, no one's ever talked about this. I didn't know I was swollen. Swelling can come from sleeping wrong on your pillow. It can come from too much wine. It can come from not enough hydration. You can just wake up and have a puffy face. And so to be able to create this product line, where I know it's a simple tool you can use every morning and it's like it works is really, really liberating and it makes everything I've gone through worth it. And honestly, the identity crisis,

as hard as it was, looking back, I'm really just, I'm grateful for it. Yeah, the product really does work. Another thing that can really make people bloated and puffy in the morning just because we were talking about this is filler. It can really disrupt your limp system. And I think a lot of people don't know that, especially if they're putting it like under their eyes and their cheeks. It can completely disrupt that so then you get like the puffiness under your eyes all the time, the bloating. I am not a fan of filler under the eye. I have to tell you this. For me, I think it pushes your eye up and makes it smaller. And I don't want to do that. So if I were going to tell someone to get filler anywhere on their eye, I would say your temple over your under eye because you're pushing

the eye up. And another thing with filler, filler's aging too. You start to look at someone who's had filler for when they're 50 and their face is wide, wide, wide, wide. I think people don't realize that when you fill your face, great, it looks good. And then you fill your face again, great, it looks good. And then you fill your face another 10 times. The filler is still in it from the first time you did it. Yeah. So I think that conversation needs to be had to because everyone just thinks, oh, filler is so great. It's actually incredibly aging if you look at it over time. I totally agree with you. And a lot of surgeons that have come on my show, I don't know if surgeons that you've had, Dr. Diamond, if they've talked about that, but a lot of them will say that. Like, it doesn't actually leave your tissue or some of it might, but it doesn't really. And when they're getting to the point where they're doing a facelift on someone and they're detaching your face and pulling your tissue up, that filler is still there. And this is why I'm a proponent of fat. I mean, I think if you're going to do it, like that's the way to go. I think I agree with you. I mean, fat. is real. It's not staying there and sticking to your skin. And also like, filler over time also

bumps. It almost pock marks out. I just, I think we've been like spoon fed this information that we have to get Botox. We have to get filler. And listen, I'm a fan of do you, whatever that looks like, but know what's going to happen in the future. Yeah. I mean, I think people just want the instant gratification. So they're doing things that might look good short term without thinking about the long term ramifications. And I think there's going to be a lot of people walking around in 10, 15 years with lumpy faces. And then you're going to have to do some kind of surgical intervention. I mean, it's tricky. It's a balance. And it's not a one size fits all. Agreed. And if you love filler and you're listening to this and you feel like it looks good,

you do you. Love your fucking filler. Fill your face all day long. I mean, seriously, I know people that do a little here and there and it looks great. And then like I know on me, filler, I just look bloated. I can't have a lot of filler in my face at all because I'm a proponent of swelling. It just doesn't look good. It actually makes me look heavier. So let's talk about your approach to skincare. You mentioned your product, the ice roller, and you also have the face oils. You're all about inflammation, right? Like after what you went through and just everything that you've learned about wellness, you believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that a lot of these issues start with inflammation. So how do you treat inflammation, both on your

skin and within your body. So I was so in flame the other day from travel and margaritas and sleeping in different places, just everything. And so I text my holistic facialist and I said I need to come in and I walked in. I'm not joking you with mascara out my face. My face was round. And I walked out and it was completely snatched and drained. Yeah, you look very well, I don't know about right now. Lifted. But hopefully right now it's still. lasting. I feel like you have to manipulate your face. Your face is a muscle. When I went to France, she was like, your muscles are very strong in your face. And it's because, and I know everyone can't do this, but this is my handbag, this is my shoes, this is my earrings, is getting a facial once a week.

Like, my number one on my list of how I spend my money is time. The second one is convenience and the third is facials. Like, I just think it's your face, you're leading with it, and I believe that wrinkles and fine lines and inflammation, it makes such a difference if you get facial manipulation. And you've got to find someone good who really knows how to sculpt and drain it down your neck. And then I think every facial, and my facialists do this, is you heat it up to cool it down. So you go, you do hot towel, you do hot oil massage, you're draining it down, and then you use ice roller ice at the end to tighten it. And I have just found that is the cure for me for facial inflammation. And I can tell you, I have tried everything, like everything with how small

I was. And the facial manipulation with the ice, there's nothing like it. Okay. And then as far as products, you mentioned before that you were having like hyperpigmentation issues. What do you use topically for hyperpigmentation, fine lines, dryness, all of that? Take us through your morning and nighttime routine. I don't have a set routine, but I will tell you this. My routine used to be way more complex than it is now. It's very, very simple and it's more simple products. A lot of oil, which is why I created the pomegranate raspberry oil,

because I'm obsessed with pomegranate oil since I was 19 years old. I use it to remove my makeup, and I didn't find a high-quality one on the market. So I wanted that. But then I'll also use, like, an elamist and OC oil. I love both of those brands for oils. I mix my oils all the time. I'm a huge fan for something more clinical of skin suiticals. I can tell for my skin type that it works. Like, I can just feel it. But I love, like, really small batched brands that, like some of them don't even have an Instagram, like kindred. great brand. It has the most amazing oil cleanser. It has this apple serum that's like stem cells. It's all small batch. She makes it at her house. Another brand is H for Love. Totally small brand, but she makes it all

at home. There's this other one called May Lindstrom. And she has this blue algae. It's a little, it's a little thing. It's like blue spirulina and algae that she makes in her home. It's like $150 for like a little thing. It is life-changing. Where do you get that? Does she have Instagram? She has Instagram. May Lindstrom. May Lindstrom. Maybe I've seen that. I bet you you have. And once I mention it, your phone will pull it up. Yeah. It's just everything is like made with love and, and each ingredient is so thought out. So I'm really about those kinds of brands mixing with a little bit of clinical, not too much. But then the skin tip, I'm telling you, is facial massage with oil and then ice. Like, That's the tip.

And ice, if you don't get an ice roller, whatever, put ice on your face in the morning on your eyes when they're puffy. It's truly such an incredible beauty product, even though, I mean, ice is free. I just like, I need like a roller to roll it out, which is why I like that to drain all the fluid. But if you just want to put ice, like take a big bowl, put ice in it with water and dunk your fucking face in it. Mm-hmm. aside from that, is there one beauty product or one thing that you think everybody is sleeping on? Like that people just don't know about something that you do. I guess it could be anything for beauty, wellness, whatever.

It doesn't have to be necessarily skincare that you think is like the best thing that you've done for yourself, but people just don't know. Your hands. I think I can't not believe how many people I see. and I can see because I've been so swollen who don't drain their face. I'll give you an example. I went to New York and I said to Michael, I was like, oh my God, so many people have circles under their eyes because they're so tired. No, it's not circles because they're tired.

It's circles because the pollution gets stuck in their under eye bags and they don't drain those toxins and it builds up and builds up and builds up. And I'm not saying all of New York, okay? I'm just saying that there was people that I was dealing with that I thought was tired. it's the pollution and the air quality that fills up underneath your eyebags. That has to be drained or it just sits there. And I just can't believe how many people work their body out and don't work their face out. Your face is a muscle.

This may be like a boring beauty tip is your hands, but if you go Google facial massage video, there's one by Lisa Elthridge, and it's amazing. And you put oil on your face, you will lose all the puffiness and pollution. and things that are stuck in your face, and it ends up helping with acne, circulation, under eyebags. Like, if you have under eyebags, in my opinion, I wouldn't go get filler. I would drain them first. That's my tip.

Yeah, it is true. And every time I go to New York, actually, my skin freaks out. I mean, really traveling anywhere, just different climates and different air, all of that. But New York especially, and everybody listening to this knows New York is my happy place. I would move there tomorrow if I could full time and never come back. But it's completely different. I mean, there is so much pollution. It's such a different lifestyle.

It's just kind of like, and it shows in your skin for sure. Yeah, it's really rough on the skin. And if I were living in New York, 100%, my way of spending money and time would be at a facialist once week. How do you feel the differences with Austin and L.A.? Do you feel like your skin is different there? I think my skin is the same. I have a great facialist Mo at Heel the Goddess. And then in Austin, I have Brooke at the road. And Brooke uses facial acupuncture, which is super, super amazing. Like, she does facial Botox with acupuncture. So it's not actually Botox, but it relaxes the wrinkles. And my skin is glowing afterwards. And I think a facial, like we've sort of been trained to think, oh, it's like in a hotel, it's a spa and it's this big thing. To take an hour and a half to yourself, I put on a meditation and I will just meditate while she's doing facial acupuncture. I feel like a million fucking

bucks afterwards. I'm a better mother. I'm a better wife. I'm more calm. I think people are sleeping on facials. It's funny that you say that about acupuncture because I have this philosophy that like, at least for me, I always like the absolute best after I've either gotten Botox or like after I got fat transfer, for example, I had diffuse swelling all over my face where it was just a tiny bit puffy from like the trauma, I guess, that had been done to me on my skin. But it looked amazing. Like I looked like I was 12 years old because I had not one line. And so I was joking with Dr. Mascaro who did my surgery. I'm like, we need to find a way to like market this. Like just so that you can go in once a week, get pricked and then have diffuse swelling for the week and look freaking amazing.

And then I was like, wait a second. I know that's not how acupuncture works, but I was like maybe that is like part of it a little bit. If you're putting the needle in, you're getting just a little bit in that region. You might be right. And also micrneedling. Like anything that stimulates the skin, you actually might be right. Because whenever I get facial acupuncture, I'm like, what the hell is going on?

Like, it just does something to your skin that's so incredible. Yeah. I mean, I know it increases circulation and there's all the, I don't even understand the mechanisms behind it. But also, you're like poking a little needle in there. And as a result of that, your skin reacts and you get like a little bit of like the good puffiness, like just a tiny bit of diffused falling. I think that's like, that's the key to. That's actually very, very smart. I never thought about that. But that makes so much sense now that you say that. Well, I know you have to run. I usually ask my guests, like one thing that people should stop doing today and one thing they

should start. Stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and focus on. And focus on. on what you're doing. I think we spend, and I'm going to include myself in there's so much energy that's productive on things that just don't matter. I think for me, that includes muting Instagram stories. Like I don't want to be consuming content all day long. I want to be creating it. So muting Instagram stories, I don't watch the news. I just, you know, I try to like read up in the morning very quickly, but I don't sit and watch the news because I try to focus on things that I can control, not that I can't control. And even, you know, this is a weird example. I microdosed mushrooms. And when I microdosed, I thought, oh my God, there's something negative I'm doing every single day and I don't even

realize it. And that was every single time I would sit down and eat lunch, I would go on daily mail. And it was a habit. It became a habit for like three years. I would spend 10 minutes scrolling through daily mail, which is like a celebrity tabloid while I was eating. And when I microdose, I'm like, like, this is so negative. I'm using my lunchtime, which should be to lower my cortisol, to read about celebrities and other people. And in that second, and this was like probably five months ago, I stopped. I was like, I'm just not going to do this anymore. That little tiny change was so powerful. So what I think people should stop doing is worrying about what everyone else is doing. And what I think they should start doing is using their energy to be productive towards what they

want to build and create. Love it. Well, thank you. so much. Where can everybody find you? I am at Lauren Bostick on Instagram at the Skinny Confidential for Product Line and my book Get the Fuck Out of the Sun is on Amazon Barnes & Noble and Target. I hope you enjoyed that episode. If you liked it and if you like the show in general, please take a second to rate, review, and subscribe. It goes a long way and it's actually the best way to support the show. Also, if you want to see more about each other, episode, you can head over to The Blonde Files podcast on Instagram. I'm always posting about each episode there or over on my personal page at Ariel Laurie.