Well with Arielle Lorre - 175: Everything You Need to Know About Lymphatic Drainage

Episode Date: May 30, 2022

In this episode, I'm talking with Rebecca Faria, celebrity lymphatic massage therapist, about everything to do with your lymphatic system. She gives the rundown on your lymphatic system and why it's crucial for overall health; the difference between water weight & fat, plus lifestyle tips on maintaining a healthy system. She also breaks down lymphatic drainage massage; the benefits, why and when it works, and how to get the benefits at home. Plus so many more health tips!   Sponsors: Theouai.com code BLONDE for 15% off Justthrivehealth.com code BLONDE for 15% off Keanhealth.com code BLONDE for 20% off Clearstemskincare.com code BLONDE for 20% off   Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Files podcast. I'm your host, Ariel Lori, and I'm here to talk all things wellness. From how to achieve optimal health and well-being to the best beauty tips and everything in between, no topic is off limits, and I'm bringing it to you real and unfiltered. I know there is so much information out there, so I'm here to help you navigate it all. Thanks for listening. Let's get into it. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the show. I am really excited about today's episode. I have a guest on who's so many people requested. Every time I go see her, I get so many DMs saying to bring her on the podcast. And I think actually, I'm pretty sure my podcast was the first one that she has done.

So very honored about that. I adore her. She's so great. So I'm talking about Rebecca Ferrier. She has become a pioneer in Brazilian lymphatic massage, bringing her exclusive detox massage technique Stateside in 2018. And in just four years, she has amassed a huge A-list celebrity following and a wait list of over a thousand names long. She has her studio detox by Rebecca. She has clients like all of the Kardashians, Ariana Grande, Haley Bieber, Jennifer, Anniston, Lily Collins, Addison Ray,

Sophia Richie, Chloe Grace Moritz, Alexa Demi, and so many more. She, was just in Palm Beach for Nicola Peltz and Brooklyn Beckham's wedding. She was there treating her. That's like such a testament to how well her method works, I think, that people want her to be there for days during these, you know, huge life events. And these huge celebrities, stars, whatever, go to see her before red carpets, before the Met Gala, everything. And her method truly works. We talk about it in the episode, but I started seeing her, I believe, last year it was. And I've had lymphatic massage before and this was like nothing I'd ever experienced. I mean, it's incredible. So she grew up in Brazil and lymphatic massage was a large part of Brazilian culture. It's known to

stimulate the lymphatic system in order to eliminate waste and toxins from the body. She took an interest in this age-old beauty ritual and immersed herself in the study of lymphatic drainage, aesthetics, and cosmetology. She earned a master's degree in body aesthetics in Brazil, along with a training in oriental medicine from her time in Australia. She has over 10 years of experience mastering her technique, and then she created her own exclusive style of detox massage designed to stimulate the metabolism, treat cellulite, reduce inches by eliminating toxins and water weight from the body. Her unique approach to lymphatic drainage combines lymphatic massage, endermology, and advanced wellness pod technology to boost the immune system and detoxify the body. And her story is really incredible.

She talks about it in the episode. She arrived to the U.S. She had to adjust to a new country and culture. She didn't speak English. This is just like four years ago. She had financial hardship. She resorted to offering free house calls to showcase her talents and educate other people on the benefits of lymphatic massage. And it was through that that she gradually built her business.

And it's just incredible how much it has grown over the past few years. So I will leave the rest to her to tell you guys. So I hope you enjoy this episode. Welcome, Rebecca. Hi. Thank you so much for inviting me. Of course. I am so excited to have you here. I know my audience is really excited too. I think you probably saw yesterday. I posted on Instagram that you were coming on. And I think we literally got like thousands of questions. Everybody wants to know the magic behind what you do. Everybody in L.A. wants to know how they can come see you.

So I'm excited to talk to you about what you do. But maybe to start, you can just tell everybody a little about yourself, who you are and what you do. My name is Rebecca. I am from Brazil. and I brought to LA a Brazilian technique called lymphatic drainage massage, which is different than the one they have here in the U.S., and that's why I think that what I do became so popular because I was the first one here, and I brought something new and different, and that actually works really well to get rid of water weight from the body, to remove water weight from the body,

and it makes people look skinnier, it's good for immune system, blood flow, for all your digestive system. And that's why people love it because besides feeling good, it has a lot of healthy benefits. Yeah, so I think last time I went to see you was probably around a month ago. And I went to see my trainer after and he was like, I have never seen you so lean. Your waist is so tiny. It really does work. And I've done other lymphatic drainage and it is like so different from what you do. So how without giving away all of your secrets?

Like how is what you do different from what most other places offer? I believe that because it's a part of Brazilian culture, we kind of grow up learning how to do it and why we are doing it and how to do in different types of people. Because each person has different body types and different. inflammation levels, we need to focus on the root cause of inflammation on each person. And once we are able to find that and working on that, the rest of the lymphatic system will flow by itself. So I believe that that's the main difference.

I'm able to find out where you really need to have more work done. And that's where I focus, like, 80% of my energy, which in your case was your stomach area, like, it's very related to anxiety and emotions. So it's usually where my clients have more problems. Yeah, my stomach has always been where I feel like I retain a lot of fluid. And I think a lot of people kind of get confused between like fat and fluid retention. And I feel like sometimes myself included in the past feel like, oh, I have to lose weight or I have to lose fat because you feel that water retention somewhere in your body. But when you go and get lymphatic drainage, like with you, all of that is flushed out. And all of a sudden, you're like, wait a second. It's not fat. So can

you talk about that a little bit? Yeah. A lot of people like to do lymphatic because they like to feel skinnier. And I know that most of my clients come to me because of that. Yeah. You have a ton of celebrity clients that you do before huge events and everything, right? Yeah. So it makes. It makes. you really look skinnier because when we remove the water weight, your muscles show more, like your skin feels tighter. And the reason why people think water weight is fat is because we don't talk about it. We don't talk about lymphatic system. We don't know that we can really get swollen from emotions, from processed food, from environment. And then once we get swollen, we feel like, wow, I'm so fat, but actually it can be just waterweight.

So everyone gets kind of confused because they look like similar, but they are two different things. Can you just talk about like what the lymphatic system is? I feel like everybody kind of has a general understanding. And it does work on its own. But like can you talk about what it is and how it can get backed up? I always like to give this example. It's an analogy. If we compare ourselves to a sync, the lymphatic system would be the power.

pipes and our lymph nodes would be the drain. If the drain is clogged, nothing flows through the pipes. And that's how we feel bloated if we were the sink, right? But why it gets clogged? What happens? We live in an environment that is not 100% clean for our body. It's impossible to be 100% perfect. Even the pollution in the air, stress levels, lack of water intake, it all affects the way our body. behaves towards inflammation because it all creates inflammation. And every time we have inflammation, our lymphatic system will have hard time working. So we can get like overwhelmed, which will make it slow down. And that's when we feel headache. We feel lack of energy. Once we do lymphatic, we open these points called lymphonodes, which would be the drains. And we try to flush this

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And that's the same with our body. If your lymphatic system is not able to flush out the toxins, inflammation, virus, it's going to be developing inside of you into conditions. That's why it's so important to take care of your lymphatic system. Your immune system is best friends with your lymphatic system. So imagine again, if you're garbage, and your house is full of trash. Anytime you have a new trash, you won't have anywhere to put it.

So we'll be just hanging inside of your house. It's the same thing that happens when our lymphatic system is blocked or it's not working properly. Our body has nowhere to send virus, bacteria, toxins. So it just stays inside of us, which end up developing into conditions.

So when your lymphatic system is working, properly, your immune system is stronger because it has somewhere to send all the things that shouldn't be inside of us. The other question was about digestive system. So our digestive systems related to our brain, to our emotions, 95% of our dopamine, which is our happiness hormone, is produced in our gut, not in our brain. So if your digestive system is not working properly, your emotions probably, your emotions probably won't be right.

It will be like moody. It will be stressed. It won't sleep well. And our lymphatic system, if it's working well, your digestive system is also working well. So it's all connected, which is also connected to our emotions. So having like a healthy lifestyle, it's really important to keep all the systems working in balance. You have some crazy before and afters on your page of different people. And I think you have one of somebody who was kind of similar to me and that she held a lot of her stress in her stomach.

Right. And like after multiple sessions, you can see it completely changed. So can you talk about some situations that you've helped people that have experienced that? Yeah. Usually when I have a client, I try to find out as I took before, what is the root cause of their inflammation? because we need to treat the main problem first. And many of my clients have anxiety or emotional traumas, which is, again, connected to our digestive system.

And that's where I have to work first. So I try to open the lymph nodes in that area, and I use equipment to break down inflammation that can be stuck sometimes for like years. And then I try to push this water inside of the lymphatic system. body can flush it out. However, in combination with what I do, I need that this client work on their emotions, work on eating healthy and exercising, because it's all a combination of things. It all works together. So I always talk to them and I try to explain them that they need to help me. We are like a team. With you was a little different because you were already so healthy

so I didn't need to keep telling you what to do because you already do. So it was very easy. I just did what I have to do. But usually if someone doesn't have a lifestyle that matches with what I'm trying to do with them, I have to talk to them and then we both work as a team. And that's why the results are so crazy. What are some of those lifestyle things? Like I know you and I have talked about walking.

And you can talk about this is so helpful in keeping the lymphatic system going, right? but what are some other things? Like I know on your Instagram, you've talked about sleep, obviously, and you mentioned diet and exercise and stress management. So what for you are like the main things that keep your body healthy that complements what you do? Number one is sleep, because that's the best way to regulate our hormones. We need to be in certain time, which is 2 a.m., in a deep sleep level, to produce certain hormones that will control our fat storage. And by 8 a.m. we need to release cortisol, which will make we energized for the day.

By 8 p.m., we need to produce melatonin, which will help us to sleep. So if you have a good sleep routine, which means sleep early, wake up early, half of your problems will be solved. Thank you. Everybody talks about the morning routine. being what sets you up for the day. And I am like, no, it's the nighttime routine. Because if you're not getting that good sleep, like, that's the foundation. That's the foundation that then you can do your morning routine and build your life on. So I am strong proponent of that. Yeah. Like if you wake up

miserable, how you're going to have a good morning routine? You have to sleep good in order to have a good morning. So I would say that sleep is number one. We need to have our hormones on place. Number two, food. Yes, we need to avoid processed food because every time we are eating thinks that our body cannot recognize as food, we are just like putting toxins inside of us. And it's really hard for our body to get rid of it all. If you have like a little bit of processed food, it's okay because your body can process it out. But if you have processed food every day, all the time, it's really hard for your body to flush it out and it will develop. into conditions, which is really bad for a lymphatic system because it will get overwhelmed.

You cannot get rid of it all. Number three, exercise. Our lymphatic flow and our blood flow, they walk together. So the more you move your blood, more lymphatic flow you will have. That's why walking is so good, because when you walk, you keep in movement for like hours. Usually if you run or if you do a high-intensity exercise, you're not able to do it for long hours. But when you have the walking habit, you keep doing it every day for long hours, which is the best for a lymphatic system because you need to keep moving your blood. And number four, I would say drinking water.

Yeah. We need to drink water to help our lymphatic flow to keep flushing, going back to the synchic example, you need to open the tap water in order to flush out things that can be stuck in the sink. So after cleaning the drain, you need to open the tap water. So I would say that drink water. If you can keep these four habits in a consistency daily basis, your lymphatic system will work pretty well. Is there such thing as drinking too much water where then your body is like not able to flush that water and you retain it. I mean, I know that there's like actual conditions like hypernatremia, I think, when you like drink way too much water, but is there a balance? I would say that

a good amount per day would be between half a gallon and one gallon per day. Like if you drink three gallons per day, yes, it's too much. It's not healthy for you. But you should drink at least half a gallon per day. Okay. Yeah, I just found another question about that that said. Is drinking a ton of water beneficial for the lymphotic system or is it a myth? Some people think that if you drink water, it will feel bloated, but it's actually the opposite. Your body needs hydration. If you don't drink water, if you don't give your body hydration, it's going to keep the fat to get hydration from the fat.

So the water you drink is different than water weight. The water you drink will flush the waterway out. So it's really important to drink water. So another thing a lot of people asked, they were like, well, isn't it temporary? So can you talk about like how often somebody should be getting like a manual lymphatic drainage and how long it lasts and just kind of like the whole schedule to it? Yeah, a lot of people ask me that because if you were just focused on how you look, yes, it's temporary. You look skinnier for a while and then you will feel bloated again whenever. you have a processed food or if you have lack of sleep or whatever that will make your body

stressed. But it's the same thing as taking a shower. You're not going to take a shower today because tomorrow you'll be dirty. Like if you don't take a shower for a whole month, your level of dirty will be so high that you will be like sick. So it's the same thing. You need to keep cleaning your lymphatic system, not just with massages, but also with a good lifestyle that won't overwhelm your lymphatic system so it can work on its own.

And then if you have a chance to do a massage once in a while, that would be great because you will help to clean it even more. And the more clean your lymphatic system is, more healthy you are, more immunity you have. So yes, the results are temporary, but it's something you should be worried about always, every day in a daily basis, you need to be worried about keeping your body free of toxins. So everybody wanted to know what can they do at home, aside from these lifestyle things that we're talking about. Are things like dry brushing, guasha, like are there at home things that people can do themselves to like stimulate their lymphatic system? There are a lot of tools out there supposed to help your lymphatic system and stuff. But in my opinion, you don't need

any of them. You just need to move your blood. If you can do sauna sometimes and go for a walk, that's all. It's much better than guasha. It's much better than products and creams. And I could be here trying to sell products, but I know that nothing will work as good as walkings or sauna or whatever you can do to move your blood. That's the best way. to keep your lymphatic system flowing. Summer is here and that means it's time to ditch the sweatpants and show some skin. Although admittedly I'm wearing sweatpants right now. But anyway, you might not be feeling ready or feeling your best.

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So can you tell everybody, like, how that happened? And it happened pretty quickly, too, right? Yeah. Even I get a little confused about it, like, wow, it's just been three years that I'm here when I arrived. That's crazy. I didn't even speak any English. It's so crazy that it all happened too fast. But there is no secret.

You know, I'm there working every single day. And all my clients are from referrals. So word mouth, I end up getting to them. That was it. There is no secret. It's like every day working, working. working and then you meet someone who introduce you to someone else and someone else and that's it. I think it's just a testament to how much your technique actually works because there's so many

places that do like quote-unquote lymphatic drainage and they've been around forever and they don't necessarily have the client base that you have. But it really does. I can't remember how I found you. I think I found you maybe through Shana like last year. I think I came to see you. you first before the Emmys. And I was like, to be totally honest, I was like, it's probably like the other lymphatic that I've had. And it was so crazy. I was so inflamed. I feel like that first time I came to see you because I was having issues like my period wouldn't stop. And I was stressed and I was on medication and like all these problems. And I felt like a different person. Oh, I was so happy to you then. Yeah. But I think again, back to what I said earlier, like that's why you've had the success that

because it actually works. Yeah, because most of places, they are really focused on the business and on money. And I think we need to spend time with each client and try to solve their problem. My goal is that my clients need to see me as less as possible. I want to help them to fix their problem and they just keep coming to me for maintenance. And other places, I feel like they keep trying to have you coming back. as often as possible, so they make more money and they rush and they don't really care about your feelings and emotions and energy, which I believe it's all connected to your systems,

digestive systems, lymphatic system. So we need to worry in other aspects besides the massage itself. And that's what I think that maybe those other places are missing. Plus, it's Brazilian thing. Like when you grow in a culture where they do lymphatic all the time, you end up learning more. It's hard to learn when you, it's not a part of your culture. Yeah, that makes sense. It's just like a part of who you are as opposed to something that you learn so that you can do the business to make money. And I think with you, also compared to other places that I've been, like, when I go see you, we spend two hours together and we're talking the whole time. And like, you know so much about me just for, just from those like sessions that we've had and you have that like personal thing and you really are trying to get to know the person like you get to know them holistically and like all the different parts of their life so that you can figure out what's going on and what's causing it and I think that's different like from another place where you just go and make an appointment and you show up and they assign somebody to you and they do it and then you leave.

I wanted to ask about post-surgical lymphatic range. You know me. I've had a few procedures. How and when, if somebody has like a surgery or procedure, when should they get lymphatic drainage? And how can a surgery affect the lymphatic system? So again, our lymphatic system will react to any type of inflammation. When you have a surgery, you are attacking your body somehow and you are taking medicines, antibiotics, and it all feels different to your body. So it's going to get inflamed. and swollen, and that's why after surgery, everyone is so swollen. And that's when lymphatic massage helps you, because you need to release the water weight in order to have your body recovering faster. You can get lymphatic like three days after having a surgery. As soon as you feel like functioning, you can get lymphatic.

And what it's going to do, it's going to flush out the water full of inflammation, medication. And your lymphatic system will speed up, which will help with the recovery. process. So if you get lymphatic either before and after the surgery, you recover way faster than if you don't. What about when people get filler in their face? This is something I've always wondered about. I know that if you get too much filler, it can block the lymphatic system in your face. Do you see that a lot, especially in L.A.? To be honest with you, I don't see that a lot because my clients, they are so healthy and like they're in this holistic world that even though they get fillers,

they don't get that much that will block their lymphatic system. But yes, it can happen because the filler, it will move around. People believe that your body will just metabolize it, but it's not true. We will move around. And if you do it too much, it's going to block some points. And these points can be lymphatic points. That's when you have a problem. But it would just happen if you do like too much.

Yeah, it happened to me a few years ago when I, got under eye filler and it was too much. And I think my under eye area couldn't drain properly. And so I got these like lumpy. Wow. What did you do? I got bad filler. Like badly placed and too much filler under my eyes and maybe like in my cheeks. This is before I had the fat transfer. And I feel like it just like I would wake up and I would be so puffy or if I ate salty food like so puffy because I feel like the puffiness couldn't drain. Yeah, your lymphatic system was overwhelmed. Yeah. Yep, never again. Okay, so we got tons of listener questions because everybody wants to see you and most of them can. So let's get to some of those. I feel like we answered a lot of them, but somebody said I still

have fluid retention after my lymphatic drainage massages, WTF. What is WTF? What the fuck? Oh, yeah, because lymphatics, not. a miracle, it's not a surgery, as some people think. Like, you can have fluid after lymphatic, which means you have to keep doing lymphatic and change the lifestyle to stop overwhelming a lymphatic system. Somebody said there's so many doctors that say this doesn't do much. What is your reply? I actually beg to differ. I don't know what kind of doctors they're referring to, but all the plastic surgeons that I know advocate for lymphatic drainage. Yeah, because we are in LA. In LA is a little different than maybe other places. And doctors here, they learn that if they send their people

after surgeries to do lymphatic, they will recover faster. So we avoid them to have complaints and problems. But I don't know about other cities. Well, everybody wants to know when are you taking new clients? Oh, never. I don't know if you guys heard that. She said never. Does this help people of all sizes or just people who are already thin? It actually works better on people who are already thin because not thin, but people who have a healthy lifestyle because as I said, we have to work as a team. If someone is too overweight and they don't have a good lifestyle for their lymphatic system, just the massage itself cannot do much.

So usually my clients, they are already healthy and that's why they see such good results because the lymphatic massage will be just like the cherry on the top of the cake, if that makes sense. You said that it's more about the lifestyle than things that people can do at home, but are there things? Like I know that you have videos on your Instagram, like the facial, the section thing, which I bought after I saw that. Can people, like will guasha help at all? Do things like cold showers help? Does dry brushing? Is there at home manual massage that people can do?

So about any massage at home, including suction or guasha or the facial one, if you think about it, we are moving the blood. So everything is always connected to the blood. But there is one morning habit that I forgot to tell before, which is really important for the lymphatic system, which is scrape your tongue in the morning. Oh, yeah. Why? Because when we are sleeping, our body detox by itself. That's why we wake up with our stomach. tongue full of bacteria and growth. You should, number one in the morning, scrape your tongue.

After that, you brush your teeth, you drink water to protect your stomach, then you have breakfast. Usually people wake up and right away they drink water. So what they're doing, they are just pushing all those bacteria back to their body. And any type of massage, like the facials one that I teach, I teach some stomach ones on my Instagram, they are also helpful. We are like massaging the digestive system, the gut, which helps you to go to the bathroom and stuff. But my point is, you always have to worry more about your daily habits and routine than about the massage. The massage is just like a complementary thing. A lot of people asked, because a lot of people aren't in L.A., so they're asking how they can find somebody good

in their area. I don't know. She's like, I don't know. I'm the only good one. No, it's just because like here in the U.S., they don't have proper trainings for lymphatic system. Maybe they do and I don't know, but I've never found any proper training. So I don't know. Would you recommend people look for a Brazilian? Not all Brazilians also know. Like I went to school.

I have a master's degree. You need experience. I've been doing it for 10 years. And yes, you can find good people, experienced people. but it's not as easy. And I also get this question a lot. And I don't know, unfortunately. Does lymphatic massage help with cellulate?

Yes, it helps because cellulite is nothing more than inflammation and fat is stuck in certain areas. How do you get rid of cellulite? Moving your blood, again, when you have a blood flow, we don't have cellulites. So that's why when you exercise, your cellulites go away or part of it goes away. And when you do lymphatic massage, we are moving the blood. We are moving the lymphatic system, which is releasing inflammation. So the combination of it all helps a lot with cellulites. Someone said, how do the toxins release once pushed towards the lymph nodes?

Our lymph nodes are like drains. Their job is. releasing toxins naturally, the only reason why you need to help them is because we live in an overwhelming lifestyle. So if you lived in a farm, completely healthy, no stress, sleeping early, you would not need any type of lymphatic or any type of procedure to help your lymphatic system. So it's already a lymphatic system job to flush out toxins on its own. When you do lymphatic, just help it. You open the lymph nodes and you push the water towards those points. And that's how your body flush it out. And you pee it out if that helps. Yeah. Should you do a massage the day of a big event or days prior to it?

The day before. Day before. Yeah. Because our lymph nodes are very small. They're like little beans. And it can take up to 40 hours to release all the water we try to flush out. So I always recommend my clients to do one or two days before. How long do results last? Again, it depends on your lifestyle, but if you have good habits, it lasts like two weeks, three weeks, and then slowly you will get slow again, your lymphatic system, and you can feel a little puff, especially if you fly or if you eat something. And then when you do massage again, you flush it out again.

Should you do it before surgery too? Yes. Before surgery is as important as after surgery. If your lymphatic system is doing well before the procedure, it will work on its own until you have your next massage. So if you do it before and after, your recovery is super easy. Somebody said, I had a lymphatic massage and it was super late. Is that how they're supposed to feel? Yeah. I mean, each person has their own methodology. After surgery, it's super. supposed to be super light because your skin is sensitive and stuff, but I don't love super light. So it's hard to say, but I also cannot judge other people's methodology. So I've definitely had the best results with you. I do have somebody in New York who I see who comes to my house after I've had face surgery.

And that's like you can barely feel it. But you're right. Like you're so gentle, especially if you have incisions. Like they can't pull the skin at all. And I didn't think it was going to do anything. And she actually did help a lot post-surgery, but like just in the week or so after. Yeah, like for each person, you need a different pressure. So it's hard to say each situation is different.

So really depends. I feel like people just have to find what works for them. Do you know anything about lipidema? Yes. It's a disease where your lymphatic system literally does. doesn't work in some areas. And it's usually on women and on legs. And that's when you see like the huge legs, even on a skinny person.

So their legs cannot flush the liquid and just stays in there. Is there treatment for that? I mean, does massage help? At that point, no. I mean, it helps to release, but it's not going to solve the problem. I know they have some surgeries and stuff, but. I don't know how much they help. My advice would be be careful before it happens.

Like if you feel your body is retaining too much water, you have to change some things to not reach this point of having lymphedema. Can you talk about cupping? Yes. Comping is an acupuncture thing. And we place them in strategic points like you do with the needles in order to improve whatever problem you're having. So let's say, if you drink too much alcohol, your kidney probably is not working as good as it should because it's overwhelmed and full of toxins.

So when you place the cupping, it pulls out the bad blood, which is the blood with inflammation and brings new blood to the area. So depending on what you want to do, you have to place the cupping in different points to bring new blood, which will help with the anti-inflammatory process. Another thing that you like is legs up on the wall. Yes. Can you talk about that one? Yes. Legs up on the wall is a great habit to have every day, 20 minutes a day. Our lymphatic flow usually goes towards the gravity, so towards the floor.

If you put your legs up, you will bring the lymphatic flow to the opposite direction, which will help to release the swelling of the legs, especially at the end of the day. you also help with your blood flow and as I told before lymphatic and blood flow are always together so improving your blood flow putting your legs up, improve lymphatic flow and it feels so good.

So if, well, I'm your client so say that I came to you and I wasn't doing anything, what would you ideally have me do in a day? Like what are steps that people can do at home to support their lymphatic system? A perfect day

for your lymphatic system would be sleeping early by 11 p.m., waking up by 8 a.m. because that way your hormones are in a perfect place. As soon as you wake up, scrape your tongue, it's going to release the bacteria that your body detox throughout the night. Then you drink water to protect your stomach and release some toxins from your lymphatic system, and then you have breakfast. Go for walk, we need to move the blood to move the lymphatic flow. Then you can go work or do whatever you want to do. When you come home, put your legs up against the wall. If you have a chance, do some sauna, because sauna will also move your blood flow, which is very helpful for a lymphatic system. If you have a chance, go for another walk and then sleep by 11 p.m. That's simple.

I like to ask all of my guests, one thing everyone should start doing and one thing. One thing, everyone should stop. So you kind of just gave a lot of like what everyone should start doing. What is something people should stop doing that could be affecting them negatively? Stop doing. I see that especially here in LA, everyone is worried about exercising and looking good, but they don't realize that our emotions can affect so much the way we look. As I said, our happiness hormone is produced in our gut. If we don't produce them, correctly, it will affect how hungry we are, our fat storage, which will affect the way we look. So I would say that people should pay more attention on their emotions, which is avoiding toxic

relationships, avoid toxic environments, just get rid of anything that gives you anxiety if you can and you will see the change on how it look. So true. So true. Like even for me, if I'm holding on. to toxic relationships or situations or stressed or whatever. That's like when I came to see you. Like my body gets like so bogged down with all of that with the emotional stuff.

So I love that. Well, where can everybody find you and learn more from you? I am on Instagram. I always try to share some tips for your lymphatic flow. I really wish I could see everyone. Maybe one day I can open your locations and I can like help. more people, but I always try to share tips that will help your lymphatic system. And as I said, don't worry about having a massage. If you can worry about having good habits, because that will be

enough in most of the case. And if you have a chance, you can speed it up by doing a massage. I love that. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. Thank you so much. course. I hope you enjoyed that episode. If you liked it, and if you like the show in general, please take a second to rate, review, and subscribe. It goes a long way, and it's actually the best way to support the show. Also, if you want to see more about each episode, you can head over to The Blonde Files podcast on Instagram. I'm always posting about each episode there, or over on my personal page at Ariel Lorry. Thank you.