Well with Arielle Lorre - 242: Unpacking Pop Culture with Unpopular JP

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

Jacques Peterson is an entertainment reporter at Daily Mail, podcast host of Unpopular JP and pop culture aficionado. He joins the show to discuss how entertainment reporting really works, his take on my various moments in the media and current pop culture events including Scandoval, Gwyneth Paltrow’s trial, the Kardashian “flop era” and more!   Visit athleticgreens.com/blondefiles for a FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D and 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase.   House of Macadamias is generously giving my listeners an exclusive code to get 20% off your first purchase, so take advantage and visit houseofmacadamias.com/blonde and use code 'blonde'.   For a limited time, Alo Moves is offering my listeners, a free 30-day trial PLUS –get this -50% off an annual membership. But you can only get it by going to ALOMOVES.com and use code BLONDE in all caps.   Say goodbye to plain water and start your scent-flavored hydration journey today with airup by clicking the airup link HERE!      Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hi, everybody. Welcome to the show. I don't think I'll ever do that intro without. laughing anymore. It makes me laugh every time because it just is what it is. And I don't think I'll ever change it or come up with anything different. But I have a really fun episode for you today. I have not done a pop culture entertainment episode in so long. And if you guys listen to every episode and you listen to my solo episodes, you probably know that my consumption of pop culture news, entertainment news, definitely changed after being the subject of some of the stories very briefly, albeit last summer. But I just like had this firsthand experience of how the story and people's opinions and everything were so far off base from what was really happening.

And it's happened before in the past, but that was like one specific story with like the separation where even though, and we talk about it in this episode, even though there was a statement put out, there was like really no story. It was a big nothing burger, as they say. People still like wanted to speculate and make it seem like a certain way. And it was just kind of shitty to be totally honest. So I was like, wow, you know, you really have to take all of this with a grain of salt and remember that there are other people at the end of this. But that said, I do like a little bit of pop culture gossip here and there. I'm an avid juicy scoop listener, so I definitely still consume it, I guess. And it can be fun. I think we all need some levity sometimes.

And my guest today was so fun to talk to about all of this. I'm talking to Jacques Peterson, a.k.a. unpopular JP. That's his amazing podcast. He's also an entertainment reporter at Daily Mail. So I wanted to hear a little bit of the behind the scenes of what goes on there because also I've been in some daily mail articles where I'm like, what is happening? Where is all this information coming from? The articles just go on and on and they have 97 photos to accompany it. It's just funny. So I wanted to hear about how they get stories, their approach to entertainment, reporting and journalism. And it was pretty interesting. And then we talk about some pop culture current events. So I had you guys send what you're interested in send in on Instagram. And of course, there was a lot of Scandival, Tom Sandoval and Ariana and Raquel. I don't watch Vanderpump rules, but somehow I know everything about this, which just shows how prevalent this is right now. We also talked about Gwyneth Paltrow. We talked about her trial. And

just why people have an issue with her. We talk about the Kardashians and whether they are in their flop era right now. And so much more, I think you guys are going to absolutely love Jacques. So please enjoy the episode. Welcome. Oh, hi. I'm telling it. I liked it. I think we should keep it. I think it's cute. Let's just go with it. Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay. So so many pop culture things that I want to talk to you about and get some of your takes on. Anna was telling me that we might have some similar perspectives on certain things, but why don't you introduce yourself to the audience first and tell them a little bit about what you do. Hi, I'm Jacques Peterson. I'm from Australia. As you can probably hear from the accent.

I'm an editor at The Daily Mail, and I also have a podcast too where I just rant about whatever's on my mind. Have you always been into pop culture? Yes, from a young age, although I'm not. I find I'm more into like random like niche parts of pop culture. So a lot of the kind of trending stuff that people are into doesn't interest me. And then I'm into like the random people like the freaks. Like I love and I say freaks with love. I love like Farrah Abraham like any like hot mess stuff she's doing like people like that. Uh huh. Okay. So a lot of the things that people were into that they sent me are some of the more mainstream. So we can like go over those. But then I also want to get

into some of that niche stuff because I think that's really fascinating too. I have to say my consumption of pop culture news changed a little bit after I was very briefly for about four days the story in some of these publications. Like when I separated with my husband last summer, I just kind of got a firsthand look at like how these things work. And we anticipated that there would be some coverage. So we tried to put out a statement so that there wouldn't be any speculation. But still, we saw how, like, ultimately the media is going to write what they want to write. Certain publications are more dedicated to facts, maybe, than others. And some others are more sensationalized. So that said, I'd like to ask you about the Daily Mail, as much as you can say about it. Because Daily Mail is

entertainment, right? It's very entertaining. Well, yeah, we have two sections. We have, like, the news section on one side, then we have like the sidebar of shame, which is where everyone gets really addicted and keeps clicking through to go, oh, look, Kylie Jenner's gone to this restaurant. What's she wearing? Or, oh, someone's been cancelled for like a tweet. What's about, you know, what's that about? And here's 107 pictures to go along with that article. So many pictures. It's like, I mean, I always knew the Daily Mail before I started working there as the place to get all the pictures. So if there was like a red carpet event, I would always be like, okay, I'm hit up the Daily Mail because I know that they're going to have like 47 pictures of, you know, Zendaya on the red carpet

versus, you know, like page six. Shout out page six. Love page six. But they'll have like one photo, you know. So it's very visual for sure. It is very visual. And they just keep you scrolling through the articles. I remember there was actually an article like years ago that they picked up about me.

I think it was about my eating habits or something. Like back when I was doing BBG bikini budget. guide. Maybe there was some interest in it because I was with Chuck and like, so there was that angle as well. But I was like, God, there's so much detail in here. So many pictures. Like how did they compile all of this? Yeah, we just padded out. Like that kind of what makes Daily Mail different to the other tabloids. Like I said, like page six will be very kind of like shortened to the point. It's like this happened. Whereas Daily Mail is like, it's on and on. And then it's all this like background. And then it's like what you did before and like, did you have any previous scandals that's in there? Like, it's like going through

like someone's whole Wikipedia page for every article. Yes. Yes. And to your credit, even though I had a bone to pick with you guys about this, it was in the headline. It's like his age and my age and his net worth and like what I do for a living, you know, it's like a big bang theory creator worth 600 million. I was like, eh, wrong, first of all. And then it's like an influencer, you know, 30 or whatever I was at time. And I was like, I see exactly what you guys are doing. We always put the age in the headline. That's just a thing. It works. Like, people click when they see the age in the headline, you know. Yeah. I mean, I don't judge at all. But so do you write articles? What is your role there? Yeah. I write articles and I edit other people's work and like I find stories. So, you know,

I'm at the Australian office and I know that like all of our offices are very separate. Like, I mean, we have communication, obviously, but we really kind of do our own things. So we have offices in London. We have New York, L.A. and Sydney. I'm obviously in the Sydney office. I'm trying to come over to L.A. And yeah, we have like a, I'm sure I can say this. Yeah, we kind of have like a rolling document of like stories to do.

So as we get like, you know, photo sets and things coming through and like different things to write up. So I'll go and find stories. And over my time there, it's. It's definitely like a skill to find, like I can go through Instagram and I can just see like a comment or something that's been left somewhere and be like, that's the story. And see it out all in front of me, yeah, because I've just been in it so long. Do you have an example of that? Oh, my God.

This is an Australian example, but we have this, we have like an influencer in Australia. She's sort of a radio host. And actually, you know what? No, I'll use a different example. I've got a better one. there's this influencer in Australia and they are non-binary and they're sort of like, I guess the closest thing would be like a Dylan Mulvaney because here there's this whole controversy at the moment with Dylan Mulvaney, the TikTok influencer doing the Bud Light endorsement.

And before this Dylan Mulvaney controversy, we have this influencer in Australia who is non-binary and they did an endorsement with Sea Folly, which is a major swimwear brand. It's like one of Australia's biggest swimwear brands. So they did an endorsement with C-Folly on International Women's Day. And, you know, this non-binary person was wearing, you know, women's swimwear. And, you know, the comments were not great. And that's a story. And that turned into like a saga similar to what we're seeing right now with the Dillan Mulvaney thing.

We kind of had that month or two ago with the C-Folly scandal. I don't know the Dillon-Milvaney thing. What is that? Oh, okay. So Dillan Mulvaney is. a transgender TikTok influencer. And she's been a woman for about a year. And she started, she blew up because she transitioned and then she started doing this thing

called 365 days of girlhood. So she would come on and she'd be like, day one of being a woman. Or no, she would say day one of being a girl. And she was pretty controversial from the start because she was a woman for about three days and was like, I've been a woman for three days. days and I'm just so emotional and like, like very stereotypical, kind of like a misogynistic representation of women and waving around Tampax. Like, obviously you don't need to use Tampax girl. So she's been like very controversial, but she has been embraced by a large portion of

media. She's been on the Drew Barrymore show. She's been getting a lot of big endorsements. I mean, she's making millions. I mean, Kate Spade, Olai, Nike. Bud Light did a collaboration with Bud Light where they put Dylan on the can. And then I guess the Bud Light drinkers are a little more like Friday, male, broie kind of guys. I was going to say that's a really weird choice. It is. It's very strange. And then, you know, Kid Rock was not a fan. I think Kid Rock went on Instagram was like shooting cans of Bud Light. Oh, God. There's been this huge backlash. And then they actually, they went and found the new sort of head of marketing at Bud Light. And, you know, she's a millennial female that wanted to make

Bud Light's brand more progressive and to appeal to women. So they got Dylan Mulvaney to do this. So that's been a whole thing. And now apparently they've lost like $5 billion in like market share because the backlash is so bad. Yeah. That's a little bit of like a misstep, I think, on their part. Not the choice itself, but just like from a branding perspective, you know, it's just. so opposite of what their demographic is. I felt like, so they said they wanted, this head of marketing, she said, you know, we need to diversify, we need to be more progressive, we need to reach more women. And I'm like, well, get Sydney Sweeney.

I feel there's baby steps. Yeah. Get Sydney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney's like cool. She's on euphoria. Young people like her. She's hot. She's blonde.

You know, she's sexy. Do a Sydney Sweeney campaign. Like the Dillon Mulvaney campaign, I don't know. That's a big swing. A really big swing. And a mess. Yeah. And I mean, that's everywhere, though, but it's funny because now Dylan is like every daily

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Has it changed, I mean, I would imagine it's changed the tabloid industry so much or the journalism industry as a whole because even back like when I was reading In Touch and us and all that, that's where you got your celebrity news. That's where you got your pop culture and everything. and, you know, all the pictures of Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie on Robertson, and I'm sure that was a big business. And now you get all of that on Instagram and TikTok. So how has that changed the industry for you? Well, there's not as many gatekeepers because, I mean, it's like with all media.

Like, I mean, you have a hit podcast, whereas pre-podcasting, you would have had to have been accepted by, like, a network and go through all of these things, whereas now you can just, like, go on TikTok and go, hey, I've come up with this great idea, 300. and 65 days of girlhood, whatever it is. Or I'm going to show you how I got my bikini body or whatever and you can build like a following. I'm going to come up here and do like political rants on Instagram and there are ways to like kind of bypass that. Whereas I felt like there are a lot more gatekeepers before and it was sort of like, has the studio chosen you? Do you have a network behind you? Did you get on a TV show? You know, so I feel like it's a little more equal now,

which I like. I think that's better to just sort of give everyone a shot of getting famous. Yeah. Yeah, we have a whole new subset of celebrities. They're all working overnight. They're all working an angle, though. Like, that's from being in media for so long now, I can just see when everyone's doing an act. Like, whatever it is, I'm like, they've totally planned this out. This is like a whole thing that they know they're doing in steps. And I see people like falling for it all the time.

And I'm like, this is fake. Like, don't you realize? Like, this is not real. What do I need to do to get overnight famous? You can't do a sex tape anymore because nobody cares. Yeah, because of OnlyFans. Yeah, only fans. If you cheated on Chuck, that would get you because if you look at like the Scanderval

with like Raquel and Tom Sandoval and stuff, that's like going crazy. But I feel like nobody cares. I mean, it's not like we're... I don't know. No, I think people would care. I don't know. Cheat on him and then ask for some ridiculous divorce settlement that's like way beyond. like what it should actually be.

Like, just ask for all of it. Okay. And be like the gold digger. Because that would be easy because they said they put your age in the headline. Oh my God. Yes. The young blonde like, you know, me. Well, that's why we knew, I think, like prior to the separation last summer, like there

are people from TMZ who stood at the courthouse in L.A. I don't know how it is in Australia. But, you know, who sit there and wait for anybody notable to file for divorce because that's public. And we knew because of the financial aspect of it and because of the age difference, those two things are very juicy. So we're like even though there's a nothing story here, you know, like at the time we just felt like we were in different places. People are going to try to make it a story because that is, I don't know, yeah, for lack of a better word, juicy. You were smart, I think, to put out the statement because you want to kind of get ahead of it.

You don't want to let the tabloids and everything run. Because if they don't know, if you're not giving them anything, you're not giving them anything. thing, they are going to like dissect Instagram comments. And I mean, now we have all of these. Everyone is like a reporter now on TikTok and stuff. You know, the floating head people that are breaking news. And, you know, it only takes one of those to go viral and that can just be full of like bullshit and misinformation. But that could be the thing that gets picked up. So I think it's good to kind of get ahead of it. Although I will say sometimes it's better not to comment because sometimes we'll have a story and it could be something a little salacious and, you know, like at Daily Mail,

we have to go through like legal department and everything to make sure it's like not defamatory and it's okay and have you gone for comment. That's why I kind of hate what Demire does. That's a sidebar. But anyway, we have to go through all these like checks and balances before we do a story. And sometimes it'll be like, well, you can't run that unless they give you a comment to go, like, unless they've responded to it because then, so then you can run it on their comment of like, you know, Ariel like responds to claims that she cheated on Chuck, but then it's like if you don't comment, we wouldn't be able to run it because it's sort of defamatory. Right. So sometimes you don't want to comment. Interesting. Well, yeah, so we put, not to make this whole thing about us, but we put

the statement out, we had somebody at Hollywood Reporter who was going to break it before TMZ. And then that didn't happen. TMZ got it first and they didn't have the statement. And I was like, wait, fuck what and then people called me for comment and I didn't comment on anything and then and it was like a Friday afternoon 445 by Monday it was like a nothing story although Anna saw people on Reddit who were like I saw her on a Vespa in Rome holding this guy's waist a little too tight and it's like oh my god Reddit is such a cesspool I hate it they're just there's fucking psychos on Reddit and I just dissect everything's like get a fucking job like the shit that I see them going over and it's obsessing over and I'm like, you guys are just... I found it so flattering. Even though everything is

negative about me, I'm like, this is amazing. This is how anybody is spending their time. You know, the downside now, I think, is with like the TikTokification of media and the like dumois and everything before. It would just go through the tabloids. Now you've got to have like 10,000 people like analyze it to death for content on all of their social media pages. So it's like it will get picked apart. Like people that don't have any experience in this, they don't know how to like tell fake news from like a real story. So they're just going to see a comment on Reddit.

They're going to see the comment that you said about, oh, she was holding some guy. Then she's going to come up on TikTok. She might have three million followers this person. Oh my God. Ariel was seen like making out with this guy at a bookstore and this is going to like catch five. It's like telephone. It is. And it's like whoever has the most followers and whatever goes the most viral and whoever's the

loudest, like that gets interpreted as truth by the consumer, which is crazy. 100%. Absolutely crazy. Okay, so I had people send in pop culture stories that they're interested in. Obviously, you mentioned the Scandival. Yeah. I have to say, I don't watch Vanderprop, so I'm like the worst person to talk about it. But I would love to hear your take.

I couldn't believe people are still interested in because even though I don't watch it, it's all I've seen and heard about. But you have a different take. than most people. Well, I'm coming around a little bit more. So originally I was kind of team Tom and Raquel just because I'm like, all of these people are such fucking hypocrites. Like if you've watched the show from the beginning like I have, they've all had affairs. They've all literally every single person, they've all done it. So I'm like, I'm not condoning what Tom and Raquel did, but I'm like, for you guys to be the ones pointing fingers with your history. And again, like, I can see the

all using it for content. They're using it for a storyline. And they're like, fuck yes. Look, this story's blowing up in the media. It's made Van der Pomp rules like relevant again. Like that show before this was on its last legs. The season that had last season was like, it was unwatchable. Like I started watching it and I'd watched every other season. It was going down the tubes. They fired like all the best people from the show because they all got canceled during, you know, COVID and BLM and everything. So they fired half the cast. It was a mess. Now the show is like on fire again. So every current. and former cast member is just

latching onto this and they're on like the outrage bandwagon and everything. So I kind of was like, leave them alone. You guys have done this too. And I think we all could tell that Tom and Ariana's relationship was not

the strongest. Like he wanted to get married and she didn't. She seemed depressed. He wanted to get married and she didn't. Yeah, she was very, well, she's sort of very progressive even kind of very liberal and I think she didn't sort of want to do the kids and the marriage.

And I think she saw it as like patriarchal and he kind of wanted to settle down more. Also like she's more introverted than him. He's more extroverted. It was just like you could kind of see the writing on the wall. But then he just went on Howie Mandel's podcast, which I was like, this is so random. He's breaking his silence there. But then if you listen to the interview, he seems to be friends with Howie. And Howie's like, you've done nothing wrong.

Like, I can. It's okay. I mean, I'd be nice to Tom Sandibovol, but don't give him like that much. of a pass. But it just sounds like Tom had a midlife crisis, like any typical guy. He's turned 40. The show was sort of winding down. He said on the podcast, I felt like my best years were behind me. We weren't having sex. It was just all the typical stuff. And then I met this like younger, cute girl that's totally into me. Sex is great. It's exciting. We're sneaking around. It's just like a classic like midlife crisis kind of story. Why do you think he didn't just end his relationship, though?

Wow. He said on the podcast that basically that Ariana was like threatening self-harm, like threatening all this if you leave me. Do you believe that? Yeah, I do. Really? Yeah. Okay. So I don't watch so I don't know like their personalities really. I totally think it's true. She said she was going to, they had a brand together as well. So, you know, they had like this, some kind of cocktail business together and stuff like that. And she was also saying, I'm going to quit the show. I'm going to quit social media and then he started, they started going to couples therapy and he was trying to break up with her via the therapy. Listening to the interview, he still wasn't clear enough

with her at all, but I don't think she made it easy, you know, like I, I mean, he said that she punched him. So when he tried to break up with her or something, so I do think there was some kind of like emotional blackmail in there. So I think it's like complicated. That's why from the beginning, I'm like, I'm not going to take a black and white approach with this, like everyone else's. I'm not going to get on this outrage bandwagon because there's always two sides to the story and, you know. And people get so triggered and so just upset by other people cheating and their relationships and everything. And it's like, I just don't think anybody can judge like until they're in a situation themselves. Like people do it all the time. It doesn't make it right. But like,

unless you're in that relationship, you don't really know like what the dynamics. was and that's not to justify it or anything and like who's to say like she was really doing that and he was right and it sounds a little like blamie from him but I just think people like love to feel morally superior to other people and it's like well you might do it too so get off your high horse that's the thing that usually I mean of course there's definitely some cheating things where it's totally black and white and the guys you know like a sociopath or whatever for sure but a lot of time like there's a lot of gray area in life things are complicated it's not you know, sometimes they can be like wrong on both sides. And also, I haven't thrown so much of a

pity party for Ariana because it's like, you know, when I look at it from the media perspective, everyone fucking loves her now. Like the rumor is she's on Dancing with the Stars neck coming up. Apparently she's booked that. She booked a movie role in a lifetime movie or something. Her followers have gone up hundreds of thousands of dollars. Like and endorsements. Yeah. Oh my God. She's getting endorsement deals and stuff. And like her on the show, like right before this happened, she was getting so boring. She wasn't bringing anything to the show. Like when this season started, I was watched the first few episodes. I'm like, why is Ariana still like a full-time cast member? She's not doing anything. And now she's the most beloved person. So I'm like, and I also think

that I don't think Tom's the greatest person to date. And I feel like, you know what, good. You both got out of this. I don't think his relationship with Raquel will last just because it is so midlife crisisy. but I think she'll meet the right person and her career is going to be on fire now and like, good for her. I'm happy for her. Yeah, I feel like sometimes people, especially in long relationships like that, feel paralyzed and they don't know how to leave. And, you know, it sounds like it wasn't really working for either of them. And, you know, unfortunate if people, not if, but unfortunate that people got hurt, but it's like, yeah, it will probably work out for the best. And yeah, I didn't know who any of these people were two weeks ago or three weeks ago or whatever and now it's all I see. So good for them. I

know you know Heather McDonald, right? I love Heather McDonald's. I can't remember what her take was on their relationship, but she also said like the only way that Tom and Raquel can redeem themselves is if they stay together, they have a baby. Because if they have a baby, then everyone's like, okay. Well, what do you think about that? Oh, yeah. I totally agree. But I'm always, Also, I'm already seeing comments that are leaning a little bit more to his side. Like, it's gone from the first couple weeks, it was like a full-on witch hunt as well. Like, I do a lot of Bravo commentary. And I kind of have to step back because I'm like, these fans, it's like, they're just these Reddit psychos.

They're just obsessed with everything. And then also I feel like, because I work in media and like, I know the housewives and people like that. And I know the behind the scenes. I'm like, you're like raging about some fake shit that's like just reality TV. It's not real. I'm just like, this is too much. But people are starting to shift again back to Tom and Raquel. And they're seeing the hypocrisy and they're sort of getting a bit exhausted by, because they can see that all these other people are using it for a storyline too. Like, you know, getting on their outrage bandwagon and people are going, okay, we've watched the show for years.

We all know that you guys cheated. You were a mistress. You were this. You were that. Like the whole Lala. I mean, I think Leah, Lala knew about Randall in my opinion, allegedly. That's just my opinion. Interesting. Say more about that. Well, I mean, do you know a little bit about it? A little bit, yeah. Well, the thing is, before they split, there was a story in the Hollywood reporter about Randall Emmett's film company and how dodgy, allegedly, it was, and where he was getting the money from. Like, it painted, like, a very shady picture of him.

And he was, like, casting Lala in all of his films. And they were always together. So I'm like, okay, if the Hollywood reporter. it knew that he was dodgy and I read it and I talked about it on my podcast and you're on all of his movies and now suddenly once it all breaks she's like oh my god I didn't know anything I'm finding out that I thought he was such an honorable man I'm like girl and she's not stupid like she I mean she was like a yacht girl before she admitted it like she I think she well I think her first interview on juicy scoop had the McDonald's podcast she talked about like the yacht

I mean, she came from Utah, came to L.A., hot girl in L.A., hit the yacht circuit. I think I did hear that one, too. Got with a, you know, hot shot producer that put her in movies, got her way on a TV show, and then she's just like takes the moral high ground over everything all the time. It's like, girl, you are not the one to be like pointing the finger. Come on. There's a lot of people in Hollywood like that. I think a lot of people do what they need to do to get where they want.

to get, whether that's right or wrong. It's so different to Australia because we're just not like that in Australia. Even when I was in Vegas the other day and stuff, like I always hear people like just talking business here. Like you're in a cafe and someone's talking about meeting like sales quotas or whatever. It's like the work never stops. And Australia like, that's just, it's just not like that. So why do you want to move here?

I just think it's fun. I mean, like, it's a dump. It's beautiful, but it's a dump in L.A. I mean, it's literally covered in. in shit. They're shit everywhere. Like, it's crazy because everyone has a dog. And I guess no one's picking up their dog shit. I mean, it's smeared on the fucking sidewalk. It's crazy. I'm like, Australia would never. Australia is like so beautiful. But it's also like it is stunning here. Like the houses are really beautiful in certain areas. I love like, you know, where I'm staying in

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you're very honest about like your surgery and different wellness things that you're trying and stuff. And I feel like she's always been like that. And people hate her because she's not ashamed of her privilege. Yeah. And she never has been like, people have been trying to tear it Goup since it started. Like people have been coming for Goop and like, you know, how can you charge like $3,000 for like a vagina egg, a crystal vagina egg and it's like, okay, well, people want to buy it. It's not for you.

Like, it is for like rich people that just buy shit. You know what I mean? Like not everything is for you. Okay. Like she is marketing to a specific demographic. If I was that rich, I would be trying at every single wellness trend to. It's fun. Like health and wellness is fun.

Like she's not embarrassed or ashamed to be, you know, skinny, white, privileged, successful. She doesn't give a fuck. And you could see that in the trial and it was so good. And I think now, because I feel like a lot of people have come on her side now. Yeah. And I've always been Team Gwyneth, but I feel like people watch the trial and then they could see that this was like a cash grab like ambulance chaser kind of like bullshit thing to get money out of her. They saw how she stood her ground and, you know, I lost half a day of skiing.

And they're like, okay, like she's kind of, I mean, I'm glad because now people are getting it. And I'm like, yes, this is why I've always loved her. Yes. I am with you as well. Like, I think she just is one of those people who knows that she's not for everybody and she's not trying to be for everybody, you know? Like she's so self-aware and she's kind of self-deprecating about it too, which I appreciate. And I think from like a wellness standpoint, because I hear feedback from people who follow me and who listen to my show and who how. have an issue with her. You know, a lot of it was around kind of like the pseudoscience on on Goop and all of that. But it's also like it's a it's a health and wellness site. It's not a medical site, you know? And like, yeah, I just agree with you. Like and I think that that video that went

viral recently of her what she eats in a day or something. I saw you did a post on that too. And I was like, I am so with you. Like the fact that people are so upset about this. It's like beyond me. It's so fucking Karen. Like, mind your going to damn business. If she wants to eat like bone rot and stuff, like you don't have to, like you don't have to follow her diet. And I just feel like it's such selective outrage over it.

I mean, people do unhealthy things all the time. People smoke. People drink alcohol. People eat McDonald's. Like if her unhealthy thing is like pseudoscience wellness, okay, good for her. Like, mind your fucking business. Like, let her do it. One thing Heather actually said that was funny.

Now she just quote her the whole time. She was like, I just feel like at what point are you, like, rid of all your toxins? Like, if you're not, if you still have toxins, like, maybe, like, I'm not buying what you're selling at this point. But what else is she going to do? I mean, she's not acting anymore. Yeah. Which she's actually a really good actress. She probably should.

Like, she's actually talented, you know? Perfect Murder was one of my favorite, like, rainy day movies. So good. She had some great expectations was great. Like, some of those old kind of cheesy sliding doors. Royal Tennis. Hush. Oh, yeah.

The murdery ones. So good. Jessica Lang, right? Yeah. Yeah, she had some amazing ones. But I thought her performance in this trial was amazing, too. My girlfriend and I were actually watching it. We were in Florida.

And, like, just, she was just so condescending. Like, it was just so funny. We're like, we need to embody this, like, whenever we're dealing with somebody who's really difficult. You've just got to own it. Like, just be who you are. I think more people need to be authentic and not ashamed of it. whatever it is. Like, you know, people might hate you, but just be you. And she's just very unapologetically

herself, which I think now people are getting. Yeah, totally. Okay, a lot of people asked about the Kardashians. They feel like they're in their flop era. So how are they doing over in Australia right now? Do people give a shit? People do have some Kardashian fatigue, but I feel like it's just kind of like an annoying, like bandwagon ticked. Like now it's become trendy to hate on the Kardashians, but they are they're so famous and established at this point that it's like, okay, they're in a flop area. Like, they're going to have a comeback with something and people trying to act like they're over now. I just think it's super annoying. Yeah, I think they're great.

Like, I don't have, I mean, I don't even follow them. I don't watch their show, but I like Kim. I think Kim's a great celebrity. I love all the different, like, little projects she does. I think Skims is cool. I like the clothes. I like her, like, legal stuff that she was doing, the criminal justice reform and everything. I think she's great.

I enjoy Courtney as well. What do you think about Courtney and Travis? I don't really have an opinion on them, but I root for people that are in love. So, I mean, I like the Bachelor and I'm like, I'll watch The Bachelor and I'm not like, oh my God, they're going to break up. I'm like rooting for the couples. You know, like I just enjoy people that are in love. Like, I don't have a problem with, I think Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox, I think last

reports is like they're over. But when they were doing their whole thing, like making out on the red carpets and drinking each other's blood or whatever. I'm like, good for them. It looks fun. Like, they're going to look back when, you know, they're like 70 and think, wow, I had this like red hot romance in, you know, my mid-30s and we had like the best craziest sex ever and it was such a whirlwind, just sort of how like Pam looks back at her time with Tommy. So I think people get jealous. I think people, I think people with such fucking Karen's. I agree. I think that's where so much of this stems from, whether there are aware of it or not, I think all of the hate, whether it's directed at the Kardashians or

Gwyneth or me or like anybody who's putting themselves out there, it definitely comes from a place of like insecurity. Oh, 100%. I mean, the thing is as well, there's so much like content. There's so many podcasts. There's so many like people you can follow. You know, if you hate Gwyneth or whatever that much, just like mute the word Gwyneth on Twitter and she'll disappear.

But then they wouldn't get. the outrage fix. I know. They wouldn't have anything to rant about on Reddit. What about Kylie and Timothy Salame? That was one that was kind of broken on Dumois, so I think people aren't sure like the validity of it, but then they were getting a lot of confirmed reports from, you know, crowdsourced gossip. Yeah. I think that's really good for Kylie, because like you said, they are kind of in their flop era and for her to be with like an established kind of respected actor, I think will be really good for her profile and I think it will legitimize her a little bit, like, not to the extent that Kanye legitimized Kim, but it will

give her a little bit more credibility. So I think it would be good for her. I don't know if it's good for Timothy because it's just like it almost makes him look kind of unsurious and actors are supposed to look like we're above that. You know what I mean? Like I'm sure there are plenty of actors that are like fucking these Instagram models and stuff, but you'd never know about it because they would never put it out there because of their image. Yeah. And I wonder if like, I wonder if like the Kardashian camp like have leaked this. Maybe it was Chris Jenner tipping off Dumois because it's a good look for Pilely for sure.

Yeah. I would not be surprised actually because she seems to be the best media manipulator that there is. out there. Yeah, she's amazing. Yeah. Do you guys get tips from Chris Jenner? Not that I know of. If we did, I couldn't say, but honestly, not that I know of. Like, we get more tips from like normies because, like, for example, in Australia, our biggest reality show is married at first sight. And it's like a blockbuster in Australia. And it's totally different to the American version because the marriages aren't legal. It's, kind of like Norah's place.

They just get a bunch of people in fake marriages, put them in an apartment block, and then everyone like cheats on each other and has affairs and stuff. It's really scandalous. And whenever like someone will get on that show, people that know them will like hit up like the daily mail tips of like, oh, he has a Coke problem or he, I know, ghosted my friend, just like stuff like that. Again, I feel like that's kind of a bit jealous. Like even if it's true, even if I saw someone that I didn't like get on a TV show, I can't

imagine kind of like writing in and being like, they're a terrible person. I'm just like, whatever. Yeah. It is what it. I mean, everyone in fucking media is terrible. Do you think there's such thing as bad publicity? Yeah, I do. But it depends what your lane is, because some people make bad publicity work for them. Like some people that you cancel, that just makes them bigger because then it gives them something. Like the Dillamolvaney thing is a good example because the conservatives are coming up to Dillamolvaney and, you know, with the outrage over Bud Light and stuff like that, but that's just making Dylan Mulvaney, like, way bigger. So even the every daily mail story and Bud Lights, sorry, Daily Mail and like New York

Post story about Dylan is negative. It's just increasing their profile even more. So it really depends, like, you know, on the person. Do you think people are cancelable anymore? Not as much as they were. Like 2020 was like peak canceling. Girl, that was crazy. I mean, I wish people would reflect on that a little bit. more of how just it was like mass hysteria like it was wild like for everything it was like who's going to like get cancelled like first it was like you're getting cancelled over like me too stuff then it was like BLM stuff then it was like COVID stuff like it was like every sort of thing and it was just like bam bam bam someone would go down and I think what happened is we came out of that

and even people who would be like very progressive you know like woke whatever I think even they realized like this like wasn't fun like This is like not nice to live like this of like thinking, am I going to have my like whole life and career ruin? But I also get annoyed at people now trying to act like cancel culture didn't exist. They're like, you know, they'll say it about, well, Louis C.K. just played Madison Square Garden. He wasn't canceled. And I'm like, well, no, he wasn't murdered forever.

But it's like he did lose like all of these job opportunities. He hasn't been like picked up by a major network again. He had like a movie shelved. Like he would have lost like millions and millions of dollars in like revenue and stuff. So people love to pretend like cancel culture doesn't exist because, you know, the person wasn't eradicated from the face of the earth, you know? It's like it feels like gas sliding. It's like, no, people get canceled. Like, half those Van der Pond rules people like lost their jobs and they were like the stars of the show.

And, you know, and of course, fast forward now, the viewers are like, we want them back. Because it's like the same viewers that will cancel them. Like that happened with the Housewives of New York. They were like, oh my God, cancel Ramona Singer. she's so problematic. Like, we can't watch her anymore. And then they fired Ramona Singer. And everyone's like, bring back Ramona Singer.

And then they had to like, they basically literally canceled the Housewives of New York. And they try to get this like reboot going. And I've heard that it's been really boring. And now they're doing this like real housewives like OG girls trip thing because they just realized it was like a big mistake to cancel the show. So, you know. I sat on a flight next to Ramona Singer from Palm Beach to New York a couple years ago. there wasn't there's not a whole lot to spill unfortunately but it was actually funny because I was in

Florida to get a lip lift so I had gotten surgery and not like a major procedure but I had to wear a mask and this is like pre-COVID it was actually yeah January 2020 and I was sitting there ready to take off I was like thank God there's nobody next to me and then like last second somebody comes like barreling down the aisle. I think she had hard-boiled eggs that she's stepping over me and the eggs are dropping on my lap and she's all flustered. I mean, exactly what you would picture. But we ended up talking like the entire flight and talking about the lip lift and like surgery and she had just gotten her teeth done and she was telling me about her teeth. And I, she looks amazing in person, I have to say. I don't know how old she is now. She's like 60 or something. Over 60.

Her skin was amazing. She looked amazing. She's beautiful. She's just like a, she's exactly what you would think. She's exactly how she is on the show. That's what people kind of like don't seem to get. I'm like, yes, she's like kind of like a hot mess and crazy and, you know, problematic, whatever. But like that's why she's good TV. You know what I mean? Like you kind of have to take some of that, you have to take some of that bad behavior because I'm like, that's why they're good on these shows. So you just want like perfect spotless people that have never done anything wrong. Like good luck being entertained because. You know what? You have to take some of that bad behavior because I'm like, that's why they're good luck. You're not. You're not enough. Like, It's the most boring show ever. People have asked me, like, would you ever go on Housewives? And I'm like, they would never want me because I am the most boring. I'm sober. Like, I mean, who's sober on that show? That's like, I mean, Luanne was sober. Yeah.

Quote unquote, maybe, maybe not. And then Leah, she's sober. Yeah, Leah is pretty crazy. Oh, she is? No, she is. Yeah, people hate her. She's like, I love Leah, like, shout out Leah. But a lot of people don't.

I mean, you would be good on that show. You're honest. I feel like I am. am so non-confrontational. I have no drama. You think, you think that, but then you get set up and you don't realize, and you realize the other women on the show have set you up or something. Yeah, you've said something. Then you're like, you need to defend yourself. Then you defend yourself. And then they take that common thing. You know what I mean? Like it takes you a few. Yeah. I could see how that could happen actually, because the only thing that like really bothers me is when

people say things about me that aren't true. That bothers me. And so if that was like set up by producers and I was put in an environment where somebody said something and then I felt like I had to defend myself or clear up the truth like that would get me fired up. Would you feel like, would you feel pressure to be on good behavior because of Chuck? Would you be worried? Like, I don't want to do it. It would never, it would never happen because of him because he's so private. So he'd just be, that happens a lot where the husbands are like, oh hell no, because their wives want to do it. Yeah. And then they end up getting divorced, like so many of them. Yeah. So. Yeah, that would never happen for that reason alone. But if it did happen, yes, I would have to be very censored about, yeah, like everything.

Well, you're not getting cars now if that's what you're going to be like. I'm not. Unless I do that scandal. Yeah, well, if you and Chuck split again, I can see get on Housewives of Beverly Hills. That's your exit strategy. Maybe that's my PR move. Yeah, I wanted to hear about what other stories you're into, but you talk about them on your podcast. podcast. So where can everybody find you and listen to you and all of that? Oh, thanks for giving my pot of plug. Love it. It's called Unpopular with Jacques Peterson. It's on every single, you know, streaming platform. And yeah, it's just different things, me like ranting about stuff. Sometimes

I do deep dives into TV shows. It's very like all over the place. But it's just kind of like what I want to do because like I mean working at Daily Mail, obviously there's like certain things you have to follow. Sometimes I've got to cover things that, you know, I'm not so much. much interested in. You know, like I said, a lot of the mainstream stuff I actually don't care that much about. So I feel like being like a creative person, you kind of need like that outlet to just do what you kind of like want to do. So that's where I do all that. You have great voice for podcasting too. Oh, thank you. Well, it's just the accent. I feel like in probably Australia, my voice is like annoying and then hear people like I love your accent.

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