Well with Arielle Lorre - 429: Naughty, Nice, Necessary, or Never Again: Our End of Year Beauty & Wellness Audit with Dr. Miguel Mascaró

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

This holiday episode is part aesthetic audit, part emotional clean out and part unfiltered group chat with my friend—and yours—Dr. Miguel Mascaró.We’re unpacking the ghosts of aestheti...c past, present, and future, what beauty trends are quietly dying, what we’ve misunderstood about peptides, and why “branding facelifts” (yes, those) are everywhere. We get honest about practitioners photoshopping their own faces, the pressure to look perfect and how to stop hyper-fixating on appearance in a world that profits from insecurity.We also zoom out: what we’re leaving behind in 2025 for the sake of mental health, how meditation and emotional minimalism help us drop unnecessary emotional baggage and the internal pressure we’re all navigating heading into a new year.Plus:Holiday icksUnpopular beauty opinionsTrends we hope never come backA game of Naughty or NecessaryMiguel judges my beauty routineThe most transformative wellness tip shared on the podcast this yearAnd a few business truths you might not hear anywhere elseConsider this your permission slip to let go of bad habits, outdated trends, and anything that no longer serves you in 2025.This episode is brought to you by:Go to ProLonLife.com/BLONDE for 15% off plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-day program.Visit quo.com/BLONDE for 20% off 6 months. Go to fromourplace.com/BLONDE and use code BLONDE for 10% off sitewide. Get $10 off your first month’s subscription and enjoy free shipping when you visit Nutrafol.com and use promo code BLONDE.Get an extra $100 site credit when you sell for the first time on TheRealReal.com/well.Plan your next trip at Aruba.com.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:33 I'm Ariel Lori, and each week I'm sharing unfiltered conversations with people shaping how we feel, live, and look. Come for the substance, stay for the honesty, and leave with the tools to be well, inside and out. How should we start? Do you want me to start? What? You start?
Starting point is 00:00:54 Should I start? I feel like I can start this. Okay. Can I start this? Yeah. Sure. Okay. So.
Starting point is 00:01:02 We're going to cut so much from this. I can already tell because I'm hanging on by a thread. Well, so I think that the most important thing is for the audio-only audience. They're missing out. Go on YouTube, everybody. You're missing out. I really hope that we say something slightly controversial. And by we, I mean you, not me, because I don't want to go viral for anything.
Starting point is 00:01:25 But if we do go viral, I want to look like this. So that when it gets aggregated on social media, I look ridiculous. I think our chances of going viral are higher, given what we're wearing. You have a blinking Christmas tree headband on and an ugly sweater. Ugly sweater, ugly Christmas sweater. You've got a blinking something on your head. It's like a swirly kind of like Santa hat, but it's got bells on it. Yeah, it has a bell.
Starting point is 00:01:50 So that's. I can't move. Can't move. So if anyone's people will be like, why can't she move her face? She's not expressive. I'm not moving because I have a bell on my head. Because there's a bell on her head and we actually checked before and it gets picked up by the microphone.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's going to be very annoying. The interesting thing about this, though, when we were coming up with the idea of the holiday spectacular, because this is what this episode's called, it's the holiday spectacular. In my mind, when we were talking about this, I pictured Rockefeller Center, Rockettes, pictured everybody just like giant nutcrackers. Maybe a special guest pops in, maybe Santa Claus rolls into town, except the budget is exactly $0. I was going to say, we're going to need a Spotify deal for that. We have YouTube fireplace behind us. Hopefully no ads show up in the middle of the show. We're scrappy.
Starting point is 00:02:37 But it's working. Yeah. All of the money went towards the hats. It's cozy. Everybody got a glass of eggnog or apple cider. Oh, you were supposed to bring your own eggnog. Yeah. And you brought water and I drank my ghost energy on the way down.
Starting point is 00:02:50 So no eggnog. Okay. No eggnog. No eggnog. But in the spirit of the holiday spectacular, I thought, and you thought, it would be a good idea to kind of do an all-encompassing year end review of everything that's gone on this past year. laughing at me because of how ridiculous I look. But I think it's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:03:07 That's not why I'm laughing at you. Why are you laughing? I'm laughing, one, because you're loving this hosting. I do. This is my dream. Way too much. This is my dream. You've been waiting, I think, seven years or however long I've been doing this podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Two, I'm laughing because I feel like there's a lot of things that we probably can't say. In our year end, it's like the Spotify wrapped. The Spotify wrapped. Yeah, exactly. But no, I mean, like, listen, yes, I have been loving this. I've been looking forward to this forever. I wanted to be the host forever. I actually wanted the imaging to say, well, podcast, hosted by Miguel Mascarro.
Starting point is 00:03:45 We can do that. Featuring Ariel Laurie. You'd be my featured guest on the podcast today. Take the reins, pun intended, because I've been recording all day and running around, as you know. I got it. Give me the ball and get out of the way. So to start, let's start this holiday spectacular with a little theme. and we ran over some ideas.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So let's start with a little scrooge theme to start. So the ghost of Christmas past, the ghost of Christmas present, and the ghost of Christmas future. But we're going to do the ghost of wellness past first. So what's the ghost of wellness past? Well, stuff that over the last year we've seen kind of slowly go away, you've interviewed a ton of guests.
Starting point is 00:04:24 They've come on. They've debunked a lot of things that we were doing over the last couple years, both from a cosmetic standpoint, but wellness, nutrition, all sorts of things. And so what are some things that you kind of would classify as ghost of wellness past over the last year that you've learned from your guests? Really? You're going to hit me with the hardest question to start. Yes. To start. Yes. Right out of the gate. It's hard for me to think of specific things because as you know, I've had, I don't know, maybe like 70 plus episodes of the podcast released this year. And it's information overload for me. And I try to take what applies to me and leave the rest. And I think, think that that's kind of the direction that we are heading in. Like, I feel like we've been in this time
Starting point is 00:05:07 of hyper, hyper optimization. Everybody is wearing their aura rings and their eight sleep beds and, yes, you and they're CGMs and they're tracking like every single thing. And I think that there's a time and a place for that. But I think that people are going to start kind of moving away from that. And first and foremost, listening to their bodies, which I feel like is the overarching message that I get from my guests. And I think that we're going to see the pendulum swing in the opposite direction. Yeah, I agree. And I mean, from an aesthetic standpoint, I would tell you the ghost of wellness past is micro-nealing with radio frequency. And so that's one of those things that we were touting the benefits of it two, three years ago. Historically, it was just all over the place.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Everybody was doing morphosate, scarlet, you know, vivant, whatever. And there's thousands of different machines. And lately, we're starting to see what the effects of that are and that there are limitations. Because the problem with machines, particularly in the area of medicine that I practice, is there's always the latest and greatest. There's always like the next great thing. There's always this promise that's going to keep you away from doing X, Y, or Z. And what we see is that for every good thing it can do, there's also a bad thing it can do. And part of that is that we're overdoing things. And as we kind of merge into that ghost of wellness present, as you mentioned, when listening to your body, oftentimes you realize there's only so much you can do with a machine.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And intuitively, you know that. And you kind of get sold on that idea of being able to accomplish these miracles with these machines. When in reality, there's two curves. The first curve is between like 15% and 30%. And that's the max benefit that you'll get from any sort of machine. Hate to say it. But that's just what it is. And then there's a separate curve that starts between like 70 and 90%.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And that's what you can get with surgery or more invasive techniques. And not to say that it's always what you need, but oftentimes we're expecting that second curve from the stuff that will only get us to the first curve. And intuitively, we know that you'll go through a procedure. You'll do something that's quick, simple, and you'll say, man, this is just not doing for me what I was expecting. And now we're starting to see that pendulum be more towards, you know, personal kind of just responsibility. And a lot more people talking about making sure that their diets are appropriate,
Starting point is 00:07:24 working out, eating well, taking care of themselves. You know, one of my cheesy lines is always genes load the gun, but then your lifestyle, your activities, you know, what you do, that's what pulls the trigger. And we're seeing a lot more of that. So we're seeing patients that are kind of moving away from that and moving more towards identifying what it is that they can do themselves, listening to their bodies and what works for them. And if we go into ghost of wellness future, I would tell you that's kind of what we're seeing with peptides and optimization and really more like isolated, personalized things. And so, you know, I know you've interviewed a bunch of peptide expert doctors and gut health doctors and, you know, I feel like that's kind of the wave where we're seeing things go. What are your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:08:06 I mean, you're in L.A. So you see a lot more of that than I do here and Florida. I mean, Miami's crazy. I mean, we see a ton of that. My patients in New York see a ton of that. But I mean, if there's levels to the game, you know, like L.A. is like the boss of the boss levels when it comes to that kind of stuff. L.A. is always doing the most and like for better and for worse. So I see a lot of people get taken advantage of in L.A. when it comes to that. And then I see people who are working with really amazing practitioners and they have issues that they're going to see them for. And they are doing the testing and they're finding deficiencies and they're seeing where they can tweak things and optimize and all of that. Everybody needs to decide what they're going. goals are and what is most important to them instead of trying to do all of the things. And I think
Starting point is 00:08:48 that that's kind of what you're saying as well. And I had this human performance coach, Dr. Andy Galpin, on my podcast. It's coming out January 7th. And he coaches like the top point 0.001% of the world from like athletes to leaders of industry to politicians, to musicians, you name it. And I was asking him if they all are super regimented when it comes to their routines because the internet would have you think that they are. And the layman thinks, okay, I have to do this. I have to do that. I have to track XYZ. There's no way I can do this.
Starting point is 00:09:23 This is just too much for me. And he was like, they don't do all the things all the time. Like the most important skill that they have is that they're adaptable and they know where their attention needs to go when. And so if they have something that they're training for or if they have a book that they're writing. or whatever the case may be, some things fall by the wayside. And I always say that about like wellness. Wellness is like a set of tools and you know when to use them and when to put them down. So I think that that is something important for people to keep in mind too.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Like if we're talking about the future of wellness, instead of trying to do everything, focus on what the goals are. There's a lot of research that's starting to come out over the last year and two years for what exactly peptides can't accomplish because sometimes they get sold as this like superhuman drug that's going to magically turn you into the Wolverine and you're going to heal immediately. It's not going to do that. Yeah. You know, realistically. And, you know, we were joking around about making a naughty and nice list kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. We're going to get to that. We'll get to it. Okay. Well, I'm just going to jump ahead and say that realistically on the naughty list
Starting point is 00:10:28 would be one size fits all. Oh. So that you're going to say peptides. No, no, no, no, no. I would say one size fits all. You know, because, and that's not just for, you know, wellness, but also surgery and kind of what I do. Aesthetics. It's crazy. And there's so many people that sell. Like, if you do X, Y, or Z, you will get X, Y, or Z as your outcome. It's just not true. It's just not true. You have to be individualized in your treatments, in what you do for yourself, how you take care of yourself. And so it's just one of those things where we really need to pay attention to what it is that we need for ourselves rather than kind of focusing on everything. Yeah. And if it sounds sexy, it's probably marketing.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Like so much of the peptide stuff, yes, they have benefits. And I do know people who have had amazing results for certain things. And I know people who take them and they're like, I don't know. But be careful of marketing. And remember that things are like for profit. Everybody's trying to make money. I mean, there's crazy claims when it comes to that. And yeah, you just have to be aware that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Noddy list. Marketing is going on the naughty list. Marketing, definitely going on the naughty list. And that goes for doctors. That goes for industries in general. It's just, I mean, you know my thoughts on market. I mean, listen, you know, screw it. I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So if we're talking on the naughty list, just between us three, you and me, audience. In general, the producer for us for. So in general, the problem with marketing and doctors is that it's very easy to get cut up in the height. meaning you can't trademark a liver transplant. You can't trademark a knee replacement. So if someone's trademarking a particular procedure, they're not trademarking the procedure. They're trademarking the name.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And so at that point, you're not buying the procedure. You're buying into the value of the name of something that you're purchasing. So you're buying how it feels to buy something. So you're getting sold an experience. You're not getting sold a procedure. And I think that most people can differentiate between the two. But that's branding 101. 100%.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I mean, Rolex. You're not buying the Rolex. You're buying what it means. To own a Rolex. Oh, 100%. Yeah. 100%. If you're buying like a, we'll just make up a name for a certain kind of facelift.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Super duper facelift. I don't want, I don't want to. Yeah. We're not getting sued. Yeah, exactly. If you're getting a super duper facelift, it's not necessarily the facelift itself. You're buying into what that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:04 means, maybe the cachet, the clout, all of that. Like, there's so much. Yeah, there's the social currency of being able to say that you had a so-and-so facelift. Yeah. And you've got to realize it's a procedure that comes with complications. There's no guarantees. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:13:22 What would you name your facelift if you could name it? I, you know, for a long time. So before I really started thinking about the ethics of this kind of stuff, I really wanted to come up with like a cheesy acronym because that was. really hot for a while, like so-and-so lift or so-and-this is already, people are already getting too many ideas about who I'm talking about. So I wanted to come up with like a Miami lift. And so I was like trying to think of like what words would fit into like MIA. Miguel.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I thought like the mascara something like aesthetic. It was just absurd. And I was like, this is so stupid. I couldn't figure it out. That was the problem. Now I just put it into chat GPT and I'm sure I would just kind of like two seconds. It would be absurd. Our brains just atrophy a little bit every single day.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Yeah, yeah. Just let Chad GPT do the work for me. Another big one for me is just, at least from an aesthetic standpoint, is I can't stand when practitioners post pictures of themselves Photoshop. Like, if you post a selfie of yourself and you have like FaceTune on, I can't trust you. I'm thinking of trying to stop my bell. I'm thinking of so many doctors. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:33 Like, how are you going to post a picture of yourself? And injectors. And injectors. I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Do you think as a patient, if somebody is looking for a doctor or injector, they should look to? I know I look ridiculous. No, no.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Should they look at what that person looks like as a gauge of whether they are skilled or not? I don't think it gives you a gauge of whether they're skilled or not. It gives you a gauge of whether they're a skill or not. is. And their mindset. And their mindset. And so in particular, if you're going to an injector, and you have to take a look into what your personal values are and what you're looking to achieve. So let's say you are someone who is a busy executive, wants understated, just wants to look elegant, doesn't want anything too crazy, just clean things up, polish things up a little bit. You walk into the office, everyone that's there, real big cheeks, lips are huge, can't move anything.
Starting point is 00:15:33 from the front desk to the girl who's injecting you. You tell her, I want to look natural, I want to look normal, I want to do this. This is where expectations may not be in the same wavelength. For her and for the aesthetic of her office, natural is what she has. She likes that. Everybody in the office likes that.
Starting point is 00:15:51 That's what you're going to get, more than likely. There is a small chance that she might be able to get you what you want, but more than likely, probably not. And so this is where you have to be discerning, not that you have to judge a book by its cover, but you just have to kind of have expectations. And I did a little talk about this this week where it's not you're being difficult. You just have expectations. And so part of that is in letting your injector or letting your surgeon or letting your aesthetic practitioner know what your expectations are.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And then their duty is to say, well, listen, I just don't do that. And if they don't do that, then you're probably not going to get it. If you roll up to Louavey and you're like, hey, listen, I need you to make me a Birken. they're going to look at you and say, just go to Rames. If you go to Rames and you show up and you're like, I want a puzzle bag, they're going to say, we love it, but you just got to go to Louave. So there's a lot of that needs to be done open-ended conversation, communication. And oftentimes I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:45 When people come into the office, they get intimidated. I get it. It happens. You're the doctor. You're showing up with your white coat and you're talking to the patient in a certain way. You were in pink scrubs and a ripped hoodie yesterday. So what white coat are we talking about? Not me.
Starting point is 00:17:00 but usual doctors, you know, but so it's a little different. But, you know, there's a little bit of that patient and doctor dynamic that needs to be explained. So, I mean, I think that's super important. Who else is on your naughty list? Oh, no. Let me say, well, who's on your naughty list? I just, I gave you time to brainstorm. Changes every day.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah, I gave you time to brainstorm. That was why I took the reins there for a second. Oh, thanks. Yeah, I was killing time. It's what us pros do when we're hosting. Yeah. I know, you are pretty, you should have a podcast, actually. Don't have the time. That's when you come in and I take over.
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Starting point is 00:21:56 you can get 15% off their five-day nutrition program. For your post-holiday glow up, go to prolonllife.com slash blonde. That's pror-l-on life.com slash blonde for 15% off. I want to ask you, what is one thing that you're leaving behind in 2025 for the sake of your mental health? I think, oh, man, I think I'm just unwanted baggage. You know, like, I think that there's so many things that we kind of had been, like, holding on to for a long time and whether that be in personal life, in business, whatever may be, and then you're just kind of like dragging along with it. And, like, I just don't fuck with it anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:40 You know, it's just like, I just don't want that. I just go home, hang out with my dog, hang out with my family, go to the gym in the morning, and just like, I don't need like unnecessary cancers in my life that are like sucking the life out of me. I just don't need that in my life anymore. Nobody does. Nobody does. And so, and I think that, you know, I mean, we've talked about this before that sometimes, you know, salt and sugar look the same, but they taste very different. And so I think that that's a very important lesson for everybody out there.
Starting point is 00:23:11 But I think that's probably like one of the big things that I've taken from. from this year in particular. I can relate. You must have watched my TikTok because I just did one the other day about that. Not that specific thing, but about unnecessary emotional baggage and how I'm practicing emotional minimalism. Yeah. I mean, like, listen, if you're in a good place, you're happy, you're good, like, keep it
Starting point is 00:23:39 nice and quiet and calm. No need to let the thunderstorm in. Yeah. But I'm doing this meditation that I've told you to do, right? that I've talked about at Nausem, and I'm not going to spend too much time on it. But it is wild what it does to you and to your perception just through like 10 minutes a day. And I was talking to my ex about this. Podcast coming.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Shout out. What? Wait, oh, did I just spill the beans? With him? Yeah. Oh, maybe I'm trying to. He has a project next year. He's going to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 What? He said it depends. But there's this acronym that he learned about in this. meditation and it was wait wait why am i thinking 95% of the shit that's like knocking around my brain all the time it's like unnecessary ruminating on this and this person that and work and blah blah blah and like it's so unnecessary and this meditation just helps to like filter yeah everything yeah i mean it's funny because you know paid like i mean especially friends that have known me forever you know they'll look at me now and they'll say like Miguel it's so funny because nowadays like
Starting point is 00:24:43 I used to be a very angry person. I'm talking about like 15 years ago. And I was super hothead. Like always just very like, why is this not done? Why is it going on? I need this done now. I need this done yesterday. Like when do you want it?
Starting point is 00:24:57 Tomorrow, today, now, like what's happening? And now whenever they say something, I'm like, eh, the world going to spin off its axis. Nah. I feel like that comes with age too, though. Yeah, probably. Are you, you, you're 42? Oh, yeah. Why are you outing me like this?
Starting point is 00:25:12 What? Why are you outing me like this? Remember? That was our ew age. I know. It's an ew age. Yeah. It's ew.
Starting point is 00:25:19 That was like what? How many years ago? Like six years ago? We were like, ew. 42. I'm right behind you. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 My daughter calls me an old man. That's amazing. She humbles you. All the time. She goes like, hey, old man. And I'm just like, you're seven. Who taught you this? What is your holiday ick?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Honestly, I don't have a lot of holiday icks, honestly. My holiday ick is how busy the holiday season is. It is insane. Like, I know I'm supposed to be grateful and all of that. And I am. But between work and deadlines and family stuff and events and this and that and travel, like all good things. But that's something that I'm working on.
Starting point is 00:26:13 next year. It's like handling internal pressure better because I feel pressure like so strongly. I think you and I are very similar in how we are handling pressure. Externally. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. Internally. I'm like a duck in water. Like you see from the top, I'm just chilling. But underneath little legs are going crazy. You know, to stay afloat. And I wasn't expecting the podcast to take such a serious turn. We're going to do some funny ones. Yeah. We'll get, we'll get into like real aesthetic stuff. People are like, wow, we're getting to know these clowns.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But I would say that we're both very similar in that, at least for me, the fear of failure is like what drives me more than anything else. In that, like, when I start something, it's not necessarily about like succeeding or anything like that. Because I've been competitive my whole life. I mean, people know, you know, play sports. And to me, it's always been like goal, goal, goal. DJ. Yeah, I used to DJ. So, I mean, a couple people know that.
Starting point is 00:27:09 But to me, it's always been like the fear of failures. It's part of the reason I don't like gambling. I hate losing. Like, to me, the thrill of winning gambling, like, I don't get that. Like, to me, losing is that much worse. And so that fear of failure is kind of what's like driving. And I'm trying to work on that. So kind of toning back down on work and I'm so busy and cutting back a little bit on that
Starting point is 00:27:32 stuff just to enjoy kind of why you work so hard and why you do what you do. Yeah, that's something I've been trying to do this year too. I have, yeah, I guess I would say I have some guilt sometimes when I like take time or even like last time I came here in October and I'm staying at the surf club and it's so nice and I'm working there obviously. I remember I had this moment where I was like, this is why I work so hard constantly 24-7 is to like be able to do nice things for myself also and like be comfortable. Yeah. No, I mean, it happens all the time. I mean, for me, I feel the guilt. my wait list is 18 months and it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I mean, I never in my mind expected something like that. And if you talk to any other doctor anywhere, they're like 18 months, that's insane. And it's champagne problems. It's great, but what's the problem? The problem is I'm enslaved to being at work. And so when someone's coming in, guess what? They made their whole life plans for the last year on you being there on some random day in the middle of September.
Starting point is 00:28:30 So if I get sick, I don't get sick. Every day is your heiress tour. Every day is my heiress tour. You and Taylor. Me and Taylor. Well, and I have the mascara manifesto that all my employees read. And in the mascarao manifesto, it's very clear. I'm like, this every day is the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's that simple. Every day is the Super Bowl. That's like Ninstein also. Yeah. Well, Nicene and I share a lot of that. You know, and so you have to realize these people have made their plans forever. They're coming in for this procedure. It doesn't matter how you feel.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You got to show up. And that changes how I work my life. Like, right? Like from Monday to Friday, I go to bed super early. I wake up early. I go to the gym. No alcohol, just drinking straight water, like making sure I get as much sleep, as much rest. Because you want to be as sharp as possible.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And part of that is I also don't want to get sick. I don't want to feel stuffy. I don't want to feel anything whatsoever. I want to be as sharp as possible. So, yeah, it's a lot of pressure. But at the same time, you get to that point where it's like, man, like, I work so hard. I want to do, like, fun shit, too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yeah, let's get back to the. If we were in a hallmark movie, what stereotypical roles would we each play? Oh, easy. I want to know what you do. Easy. Well, what I would play is I would be the big city doctor who gets tired and goes to the countryside. You're already rolling your eyes? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I'm rolling my eyes out the camera. Okay. Continue. Big city doctor who works, who takes a weekend off to go to the countryside and realizes that his life does not revolve all around his pager and his cell phone going off and taking care of. of people 24-7, that there is more to life than just being on the phone 24-7. That's like literally every home-wrick movie. Yeah, of course. And what would I be?
Starting point is 00:30:17 I would be like the city influencer. City influencer who's going somewhere and their car gets stuck. And their rental car gets, like, heads a flat tire. And then Chris pulls up in a, I don't know, would he pull up in anything? No, I think it would be the exact same arc. of yours, but it would be like, I would be in the city with like my crazy busy life and stress and whatever. And then I go back home for the holidays to the small town. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:51 To the small town. And then I realize that it's not all about. It's not all about everything that I thought that it was all about. Yeah, getting out of the the bubble. Getting out of the bubble is important. I think that a lot of people need to do the bubble all the time. Well, you're getting out of the bubble a lot more now than you used to. And that's something that we used to talk about a lot, that you need to get out of that bubble a lot more. We did talk about that a long time. When I was married. When you were married, that you need to, that the LA bubble kind of gets you. And it also changes your mindset and how you think. And I see that here in Miami too, you know, both from wellness and from a aesthetic standpoint
Starting point is 00:31:23 to bring it back into the aesthetic. I know you're trying to drag me away from aesthetics and wellness. I see you looking. But, you know, I mean, I think it's really important for people to kind of realize that. Sometimes we get so caught up in that train and that, hamster wheel. Yeah. You're just running, running, running. And you forget what it's all about. But even when I was living in L.A. and like sometimes in New York, even though they're both like
Starting point is 00:31:47 big coastal cities very similar in a lot of ways, I remember I would get to New York and my perception of myself would change because of the environment that I was in. And some people never get that. I mean, I think like L.A. and Miami are very similar as far as aesthetics go. I don't know, it's weird. Like, when I'm in L.A., not so much anymore. After the whole Botox thing, like, I really stopped hyperfixating because I was just like, it is what it is. But there's such an emphasis on how you look. Yeah, I mean, I see it here too. Here is like, I think even crazier because it's like year-round summer. Year-round. It's year-round. So there's a huge
Starting point is 00:32:31 emphasis on, I mean, I see it all the time when patients come in and visit and they're coming from, you know, Texas or I get a lot of patients from Chicago, a lot of from middle of the country. And they'll find, they're like, man, everybody's running around working out with their shirts off. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. They're like, no, like, 55, 60 year old people. They all look great. And I'm just like, because there is that, like, it's summer year round. So everybody kind of takes into that. Thinking of thoughtful gifts becomes tougher and tougher each year. But Neutraval makes it easy. It is thoughtful, it's practical, and it's meaningful.
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Starting point is 00:37:48 Microneedling with radio frequency. Which trend do you secretly hope never comes back in the new year? There's so many. I can't pick one. That's a tough one. Okay, skip. If Santa brought you only one injectable for the rest of your life, What's in your stocking?
Starting point is 00:38:01 You're not going to like it, Botox. You knew you were going to say that. What is the most overrequested celebrity face or feature of 2025? Ooh, we've gone back to Kendall. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Kendall's made a huge comeback.
Starting point is 00:38:19 For about like three or four years. Like eyes? Yeah. For about three or four years, it kind of died down. And now we're getting a lot of Kendall. What's one product or treatment you would gift your worst enemy? Product or treatment. Honestly, like full face, abelative laser.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Not everybody's a good candidate for it. You can ask me a couple if you want. I mean, I think when you're looking at everything that you've learned, has your opinion changed at all on GLP1s with everybody that you've talked to over the last year? I've always been totally neutral on GLP1s. I'm so pro-GLP1. Yeah. I mean, I think not from a purely weight loss standpoint.
Starting point is 00:39:01 When you look at the medical research on all of the other benefits of GLP1s, from addiction to heart disease prevention, it's wild. It's life-saving medication, life-saving medication. And I think so much of the time we harp on the, oh, it's going to make me skinny. It is. But there's so many other benefits to it. And now that we're starting to see those benefits, we're getting even more selective with the GLP-1s and even, you know, expanding on the armamentary move what they're good for.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I personally love them, love them, love them, love them. Peptides, just to harp more on the peptide stuff, you know, as research is coming out on peptides, they're great. The problem is that I think that sometimes people think they're going to be incredible, the number of patients that I see in consult that in preparation for surgery or as a way to heal faster will tell me, you know, they'll include hyperbaric oxygen, which we know is good, red light therapy, which we know is good. And they're like, oh, can you, what do you think about starting peptides?
Starting point is 00:39:57 GHK. Yeah, GHK. you know, BPC. I'm like, guys. Dymocin alpha. I'm like, dude, you can inject yourself with all you want, but if you're not eating well, sleeping, drinking your water, saying your prayers and taking your vitamins, guess what? It's not going to do much. I mean, obviously it helps if you're already there, but it's not going to do the heavy lifting.
Starting point is 00:40:17 You got to do the heavy lifting and it'll spot you a little bit. That's the thing. I think that so many people go to the tangible things that they can take or tweak before they do the foundational thing. that's like a pattern or like a trend that I think everybody sees. All this stuff's simple. It's really not complicated. The problem is that simple is not easy.
Starting point is 00:40:41 So nobody wants to do like put in the work and change their life and do the, it sucks. It's not fun. You know, the discipline is not great. But it does eventually lower the bar enough so that as you do other stuff, it just makes you so much better in everything else you do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Noddy or necessary? Okay. Deepplane facelift. It depends. I got to go with one, one or the other. I'm going to go with naughty. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And I love them. That's what I do. But I just saw a patient today in console, for example, who's a high SMAS patient. She's not a deep plane patient. Okay. So it's just a problem. The problem, again, is that people say, like, if you're not doing deep plane, it's not right. But there are patients that are not good deep plane candidates.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And this patient, I explained to her exactly why I was. And she's flat out told me, she's like, you're the, first doctor that I saw who's told me why I'm not a good candidate for this and it makes perfect sense what kind of surgery doing I was like well you need to see a high smash specialist because of these reasons and then I pointed it in the right direction lower eyelid surgery oh that's a nice necessary yeah submental liposuction if you're young necessary canthopexy oh that's naughty lip list I mean necessary threadlifts very naughty skin pinch Necessary.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Chin implant. I think necessary. Okay. I have a few more. There's so many like asteris and caveats on all of those. I know. And I'm just biting my tongue. I know.
Starting point is 00:42:09 We're going to change the topic to me. And I'm just, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Okay. Now you have to classify me.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Noddy or nice. Got it. My DM behavior. I think it's nice. Just random outbursts of body dysmorphia. What? Did I just out? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Body dismal. That's one thing I don't have. Body dysmorphia. Facial dysmorphia. Thanks for clarifying. My beauty routine. Noddy, man. That's too much.
Starting point is 00:42:47 What? Too much. You are fired. Too much. What are you talking about? I mean, your product's good. Yeah. And do you know how, like, simplified my routine is now because of my product?
Starting point is 00:42:58 See, I don't know. Your skin is looking very good, by the way, from the mist. Yeah, from the mist. The mist is good. The mist helped out. I mean, for you guys that don't know, you know my routine, my usual routine. Three and one. Three and one.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah. Costco three and one. So when people ask me, they're like, oh, drop your skincare routine. And I never answer the question is because it's literally Costco. But you were testing my other product for like a month. It was good. I like it. We changed it.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Well, because consistency wasn't great. We made it thinner. Good. Yeah. Yeah. So that'll be nice. But yeah, that product was really good. It was simple too, which was nice.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Thank you. I'll tell you more about that offline. My wellness routines. Wellness routines are nice. My friendships. Nice. My dating choices. Nice. I like Chris. He's a good dude. I'm going to stop recording soon. My travel routines, naughty. That's naughty, man. That's obscene. That's obscene. Listen, when you get featured on rich people, riching, right? Thank you. You know what I mean? Like, Thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:01 At that point, it's just like... But I was talking about the weird flights and shit that I take to get all over the world. Oh, yeah, that's naughty. But that's not your fault. That's Chris's fault. Yes, that's Chris being naughty. Yes. A couple more.
Starting point is 00:44:13 My advice giving. I think it's nice. You never ask me for advice anyway. No, you still give me advice, but... Unsolicited advice, but it's good. Do you have any for me? To close out? To close out?
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think I had this titled as the Missile Tome Moment. Oh. This is when it's a sweet closer. So basically, no, I think that you've had so many conversations, as you mentioned, like 70 plus. I did my research as a good host. I went and saw and you're like, wow, you did a lot of research. Chat GPT did their research or you did your research.
Starting point is 00:44:50 ChapT did deep research. Yes, Chad DGPT did deep research. But I instructed it to do it. So by proxy, I did the deep research. And, I mean, you did so many conversations. and it just expands so much. Is there any particular take-home point from any of them that you really enjoyed having or that you just took home and just immediately changed anything you did?
Starting point is 00:45:10 I mean, because, for example, I remember a couple years ago just to kind of give you some time. I'm going to do a little filler time. I already have an answer, but okay. This is what us pros do as hosts give you some filler time to think when I saw you think about it. I already have the answer. You know, when a couple years ago when you had me do the like the financial talk and
Starting point is 00:45:26 talking about kind of how to think about how to think about finances. Thank God for Rameit, because I put so much money in the SMP that was two years ago. And it was like 23% and 24% year over year. I crushed thanks to him. And not only, but not only that, but he gave good, sound advice that even changed how I talk with my planner and my advisor after I listen to that episode where, you know, he's still giving you a fair amount of money to enjoy it. You don't have to stash it all away. But if you're prudent, you're careful. And you're plan ahead, then you'll be in more than a good place. So that was a talk that, for example, for me, a couple years ago, when I listened to it, I was like, wow, all the people you talk to,
Starting point is 00:46:04 that was an amazing conversation. Thank you. Yeah, I need to have them back on. I've been thinking about that. It's so hard for me to pick because I've had so many transformative conversations for me. I mean, every episode that I record, there's something that I take and there's stuff that I leave that, like, it doesn't apply to me and, like, what my goals are and what I feel like I need. That said, Ariana Medazade. She was on early this year and she had the simplest tip and it's not like groundbreaking. It's not something that isn't said in other places. But when I started doing this, it changed so many things for me.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And that was not having my macha first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. It sounds so basic. And that's not to say like there aren't times. Sometimes I'm like thriving and doing great. And if I'm like traveling and I feel good and I wake up and I just want to pound match it, fine. But usually if I'm home and I have a crazy day and I tend to run on the anxious side and I have matcha first thing in the morning, it's just not good.
Starting point is 00:47:13 If I can wait a couple hours and eat something, it's like the simplest little tweak. I mean, it literally, it was so shocking to me how much it changed. my entire day, that was probably the most impactful habit, at least. I'm sure that there were like mindset things and my conversation that I had with Maggie Sellers Room, who just signed with Stephen from Diary of CEO, huge. She's amazing. She was on a few weeks ago and we were talking about how creators are going to be building generational wealth through getting equity in companies because we kind of get a first
Starting point is 00:47:48 look at emerging brands. And I look back at companies that I've worked with that were like ground level, like tiny companies when I first started working with them. Poppy, symbiotica, liquid IV. I mean, symbiotica hasn't had an exit yet, but they will. Like massive brands, summer Fridays. And I'm like, God, if I had been strategic about it. Yeah, but it's hard because at that point nobody really knew. And now those companies are laying the groundwork.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And, you know, I mean, even you look at symbiotic and they're still, they're still raising money. You know, left and right. I mean, especially down here in Miami, they're starting to have a big, big presence with the found blue folk, as you know. And so it's very interesting. But yeah, absolutely. I think that equity that you guys will be have access to. It's a different way of doing business. And I know this doesn't apply to so many people.
Starting point is 00:48:35 But instead of doing a typical, like, transactional, you do this and we pay you this fee, which is the basic structure of like a content creator working with a brand. Of business in general. Yeah. And so many of these deals are very large where if that money was in equity instead or shares or whatever, like it would be way more valuable down the line. Of course, there's some that don't pan out. But that really changed the way that I look at how I do business as well. So that was another one. It's fascinating. Yeah. Interesting stuff. All right. This podcast went all over the place. We were very serious. Sorry, guys. The holiday spectacular started something super fun and then it got really serious. You need to work on your hosting skills. My hosting was amazing. My hosting was great.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I lost, when you took over is when it got serious. Oh. I was all about the fun and just joyfulness and I was hoping for, listen, I had like all these fun things. We didn't even get to holiday miracle or holiday myth. You guys missed out. That was going to be a great segment. Instead, we talked about like the seriousness of life. Did we?
Starting point is 00:49:46 A little bit. What did you think? Was it? Oh, okay. He's paid to say that. Well, he thinks it was good. I saw my rolling back. I saw my rolling back there.
Starting point is 00:49:56 You have a whole calendar year to plan for the next one. I can't wait. Holiday Spectacular number two. Hopefully we don't get canceled from people. People will actually want to have second holiday spectacular. I mean, nobody listens on Christmas anyway. No. There will be three downloads.
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