Well with Arielle Lorre - 456: Sara Foster on Beauty, Aging and Why Following Your Envy Can Change Your Life

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

Sara Foster is an actress, producer, entrepreneur, and podcast. Known for her sharp humor and unfiltered honesty, Sara has built a reputation for saying the things most people are thinking—but rarely admit out loud.In this episode, we talk about self-esteem outside of career success, attachment styles, relationship struggles, beauty and aging in Los Angeles, and what actually changes when you step into your 40s. Sara opens up about learning from failure, the pressure of feeling like you need to have your life figured out in your 20s, and why so much of what we envy in other people is ultimately smoke and mirrors.We also get into beauty practices in your 40s, supplements for collagen, the power of tretinoin, beauty “rules” she refuses to follow, and what shifted her relationship with aging.This is one of those conversations that is equal parts grounding, funny, honest, and reassuring—that everyone will be able to relate to.You can find Sara at @sarafoster on Instagram.This episode is brought to you by:Find Tru Fru’s new Greek yogurt product in the frozen aisle of your grocery store now.Visit livemomentous.com and use promo code well for up to 35% off your first order.Go to CLEARSTEM.com/WELL and use code WELL at checkout to get 15% off your first order.Head to armra.com/WELL or enter WELL to get 30% off your first subscription order.Use code WELL and save 20% on your first order at https://justthrivehealth.com/WELL. Go to ro.co/blonde to see if you’re eligible for the new GLP-1 pill on ro.Get 30% off and free shipping at drinkspark.com with code WELL.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Well, a podcast about wellness in all its forms. I'm Ariel Laurie, and each week I'm sharing unfiltered conversations with the people shaping how we feel, live, and look. Come for the substance, stay for the honesty, and leave with the tools to be well, inside and out. I am so honored to have today's guest on the podcast. One, because I think that she doesn't normally do many interviews on her own.

She normally does interviews or podcasts with her sister on their podcast, which is world's first podcast, which is so hilarious and I'm sure needs no introduction with you. So today I'm talking to Sarah Foster. She is an actress, a producer, a podcaster, an entrepreneur. Of course, she's the creator of the brand favorite daughter. But beyond all of that, she's really built a reputation for being so honest, so self-aware and unfiltered in a way that feels rare and she was doing authentic and unfiltered and candid before it was trendy and before people were doing it performatively. It's just who she is. And for that reason, I loved talking to her so much. And you're going to get to hear why in this episode. So we just have a really refreshing and honest

conversation about everything from beauty, aging, confidence, navigating these shifts in real time without pretending to have it all figured out. She kind of says the things that most people are thinking, but don't always say out loud. And like I said, I was genuinely honored to have her on. She may have only come on because she likes my boyfriend, which we talk about in this episode. But regardless, it was such a fun conversation. And I know that you guys are really going to connect with this one. So please enjoy Sarah Foster. But this is such a pretty aesthetic. You don't live here, right? Do you live here? No, no. So I was like, you have nothing. You're like Kanye.

No. Yeah, this is my minimal. No, this is Chris's property. And he redid this unit. He has somebody downstairs, but she's moving out. And he redid this. And he was going to rent it out. And then he said, babe, why don't you just turn that into like your office studio? And I was like, say no more. So we're obviously in the very beginning stages. But are you more productive? Okay. We'll say that. Or are we rolling. Yeah, we're rolling. Are you more productive? I'll just interview you. Okay. Are you more productive when you have a place to go? that is not your home. Because like for me, I'll just go to my bed. And when I'm in bed, like doing emails, I'm half done. Yeah. Yeah. It's really hard. I think that people glamorize working from home.

And I mean, there's pros and cons to it. But I kind of personally hate it because one, there's so many distractions. Two, I mean, I can literally, I'm a robe person as well. So I wake up, I get in my robe. I go down. I get my matcha and I get my computer and I like get my planner and everything and I start my work day. And my boyfriend goes off to work at like 730 or 8, like a normal person. And I can be in bed until like 11 working. And then I just feel so unproductive. So yes, to answer your question, having like a designated place, I feel like just helps to have boundaries around the work a little bit more too. Yeah. And I feel a little bit more motivated and like efficient when I'm just, I have a place where I go and that's where I do my work and I have to

get it done and then I can leave after I get it done. I feel like there's so much work from home controversy right now. And it's like, it's like, first of all, if you are a parent, okay, it is a privilege to go to the office, right? Like for parents, it's like this whole thing in this country, not to get all weird, but you, your paycheck goes straight to childcare. So it's like working from home has unlocked a whole new life for so many women. in the world, right? For me, I'm privileged, right? My kids, they go to a school. I have help.

Going to the office is like a dream, you know, because I'm dueling on other people's energy and I'm inspired and I'm all those things. But I understand there being a group of women, a handful of women who were exposed in, you know, the pandemic to being home with their kids for the first time having breakfast with them. Yeah. And then getting to go to work and then getting to play with them. And I understand why now people are like, no, I don't want to go back to the office. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely see both sides of it.

I mean, I feel like what was that whole saying? I think it came out during the pandemic. But it was basically like we don't work from home anymore. We live at work. And it can feel that way a lot of times, like when you don't have that boundary. So I totally get that. Like even when I was reporting it to your media, I was like, I have somewhere to go today. And there's like people there and like interaction.

Oh my God. We're all just like navigating. I have a 15-year-old daughter and a 10-year-old daughter. And every day, and this goes back to, I'm sure, how I was raised. But every day, I'm like, you've got to grind. You've got to be the first one there. You've got to be the last one to leave. And I'm like, I don't know, is that how the world is anymore?

Am I giving them good advice? Am I putting too much pressure on them? But I want them, it's fun when you haven't slept. And when you're working really hard to achieve that thing you want to, you know, I think if I want to. I won the lottery tomorrow. I don't know. What do you have to live for? After a year of living it up, you're kind of like, what am I supposed to get out of bed for now? Yeah. You know, it's like excitement is what drives us. Like I get excited to wake up going,

will I get that offer? Will that thing happen? Will they buy that pitch that we, you know, and if they don't, what can I do differently? You know, it's like a game. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's what builds confidence also, like is having these challenges. you're going to get so many nose and you're going to have so many roadblocks. But then when things do start happening, like, that's how you get your self-worth. And I feel like I was in a situation when I was married to Chuck where like I could have, that could have been it. You know, I could have just been married and not, I didn't have to work.

I didn't have to do anything. And it just felt like it would be so empty to me. I don't know. There are people that want to do that. Whatever somebody wants to do, fine. But I think that I'm kind of wired like you, where I, need to have that grind and that excitement. I think it all comes down to obviously personal preference, but I hate, I'm so like authenticity is the most overused word of all time. But if it is in your

gut, in your core that you want to be a stay-at-home girlfriend, hallelujah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Then great. Then that's amazing. Yeah. If you are a stay-at-home girlfriend and you have this burning desire to be doing something else, then that is a problem. Okay. I want to rewind a little bit. So I was listening to your interview with your good friend, Gwyneth, and you were talking about kind of your trajectory and how when you were in your 20s, you felt like you didn't have agency, you didn't really have direction, you didn't really know who you were. And you didn't have a North Star, I think is what you said. And you kind of felt like you knew what the opportunities should be that were going to lead you to where you wanted to go. And it wasn't until you started

being open to different opportunities that things started unfolding to where they are now. Now, of course, like, you're producing, you have your podcast, you have your clothing company, which did what, 150 million this year. It's projected to do that, like, which is insane. And that was something that you never thought was going to be a thing, right? Because you weren't like a fashion girl. What was like the inflection point or the pivot where you started to be open to these things? I think I spent my entire beginning years feeling like I have to be this thing. The only way for someone to love me, the only way for me to be considered successful. The only way for me to have any kind of quality life is for me to make it as an actress.

You know, like that's, if I, if I don't make it, who am I? What am I? Who's going to love me? Who's going to think I'm worthy of anything? I don't honestly know where that came from. I've been doing so much therapy. and it all goes back to your wounds because we all have them. I mean, I had a, you know, a great childhood.

My parents were alive and they took care of me and all those things. But we all have our own traumas, you know, some self-inflicted and some exterior. So I don't, I'm unraveling it as we speak. I keep thinking, do I need to go to one of those places? Like a Hoffman. Half-Lens. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So I think I never took. the time to actually figure out, what do you want? Who are you? What are you good at? What is going to make you happy? Everything, life just moved so fast. It was like, I grew up knowing that if I didn't go to college, I would have to like find a way to support myself. Contrary to what people think, yes, my dad is successful, but we were never given a trust fund. We don't have a trust fund. We were raised by a father who was like, I am successful. You are not. You will never not have a roof over your head, but like, there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Like, you got to find it for yourself. Did your resentment about that? Yeah. Yeah. I had so much resentment. I was like, that's, you know,

like just totally sitting in your privilege. Yeah. This is not there. You know, I think, of course. And now as, you know, a mother and looking back ago, there's a greatest gift that he could have ever given us because if you don't have grit, like, it's very hard to figure out life. So now I'm, of course, I'm, I'm so grateful. And so many kids that I grew up with who were given everything, who never had to figure out who they were, what they wanted, because when you have the safety net of total financial security, you know, you don't really have, there's no incentive. So you just don't really have to go deep if you don't want to. So that was a great gift. But everything just moved really fast. It was like, so as, you know, I never wanted to be, I wanted to be an adult since the moment I was like, I can remember like 13. I was like, I want to be an adult. I remember making a PowerPoint presentation when I was 14 and my parents about why I should be able to get an apartment at 14. Like I don't, I shouldn't live here. I've outgrown this. I think I need to be independent, you know, can you rent me an apartment? That was like when I was like 14.

And so high school, it's really can mess with your head growing up in this town. I went to Crossroads. So I was surrounded by, you know, Aaron and I always say we had different childhoods, because she went to a public school. And she was considered, you know, the girl that, you know, came from privilege. And she was the one. And then at my school, I was like, you know, not that girl because I'm going to school with her wrestling Goldie Hans kid.

Yeah. You know, so for me, they were like, who's this? loser over here. It can confuse you being surrounded by that for sure. So around like 10th grade, I was like, you know, oh God, like, I don't know if I want to go to college. Like, I can't leave this guy I'm in love with. So what do I do? I graduate high school. I moved to Paris like three weeks later to model. Because, I mean, that's a real default, like thing to do in the late 90s. turns out that was really hard. That was not as easy as I thought it would be for sure. But then I just, I was on this, this train of just living not up to my potential because I was just trying to make

money, but not, I don't know, just not having a clue of what I'm, my capabilities at all. I really, it was a disservice to myself, that period of life. And it is my biggest regret. It is my biggest regret. It is my biggest regret that I did not go to college, not because what I would have learned from there would have propelled me into my career. But because that is where you meet your people. That is where you fine tune who you are and your character. It's where you meet your future business partners. It's where you find your tribe, where you find people to inspire you. And I missed out on that all my own fault, you know, all my own fault. I wanted to move fast. It didn't even feel like it was something that was possible. Yeah, I dropped out of it.

of college also. So I can relate to that. I didn't even go to college. Okay. Well, I went for like almost one semester. Yeah, but that's good. It's better than what I did. Thank you. Thank you. I think I got all Fs in my class because I had a boyfriend that was like back at home where I came from and I went to school in upstate New York and I was like talk about attachment style. We were like crazy like addicted to one another. I was anxious attached. He was like fucking with me. I'm like anxious avoidant. So I'm like the worst. Yeah. I actually had somebody on my show recently and I was like, yeah, I'm anxious. Do you're remember this? And then she was talking about fearful avoidant. And I was like, oh, oh, that's me. It's like when you can do both. Like fearful avoidance can feel anxious attachment, but they also like will shut you off,

like as a protective measure and shut down. So it's kind of a combination of both and that's me. Are you an overthinker? Yeah. Do you analyze every text, every non-text? Depends on who it's with. I mean, with like a romantic partner in the beginning. Not with Chris. ever. Never. He is like the most secure, securely attached person. People like us need security attached guys. I had to get used to it in the beginning. But with him, I always knew where I stood with him. He was so communicative, so enthusiastic. Like I never once had a moment where I was like, oh my God, what did he mean by that? Like never. But prior to him, oh my God. Yeah. When an anxious attached person partners up with a securely attached person,

It's like a, you have to reprogram yourself. Yes. Because you have to still find it really sexy. Yeah. Because we're so used to finding guys sexy who make us crazy. Yeah. Who, because we just feel so lucky to be with them. We're so lucky to be in their, in their ether on their arm, you know, at least for myself.

Yeah, Sam. I've heard you talk about that. Yeah. And then when I met Tommy, who I was with for 18 years, like, he was just so nice to me. And I was like, I didn't even have this urge to. to go through his phone. I've never experienced this. And you start questioning, like, can I be so, so be attracted to that? Even though he was like the best looking guy, professional athlete. He was just so nice. And I had to really reprogram myself and make myself

believe that I deserved that. Yeah. Yes. I can relate a lot to that. And yeah, in the beginning with Chris, I mean, I was like, are we talking about Chris? Are we saying his name? Yeah, yeah. Oh, you say Yeah, yeah. Oh, you say his name. I thought he was like the phantom boyfriend. No, no, no. No, I've like posted him here and there. Should we tell people that I know Chris?

Sure. He's so great. Like I was saying to her, I was like, we have a mutual really good friend, Chris and I. And I'm always like, why is Chris single? I don't get it. What's the catch? Is he like a serial killer? I know.

Why does he, because he's so good looking. He's so successful. He's so kind. He's so respectful. I mean, he's all the thing. Yeah. I know. His family was like, we promise.

Like there's nothing wrong with him. He's just... Is he Jewish? Yes. Okay. There you go. He just has always been like, he's so happy and fulfilled in his life. He's so social, has so many friends.

Like he has one mood and it's happy all the time. And so he felt like he never wanted to compromise in a relationship because his life was already so full and he didn't need to be in a relationship just to be with somebody if it wasn't like the exact right fit for him. So that was kind of his take on it. But a mutual friend set us up. And had it not been for the mutual friend vouching for him who had been trying to set us up for years, I would have thought that I was like fully getting love bombed because he was just like so honest, like told me up front how he felt about me all the time. So communicative like from day one. Like I always.

All these words that we're all now. You know, it's like, okay, sure, love bombing is a real thing. Yeah. For sure. But sometimes it's just not. Yeah. Sometimes it really is just insane. sane chemistry. Yeah. And somebody who like has no pretense. That's how I felt with him. I'm like, he is just exactly who he is. He's not trying to like put on any kind of facade or anything like that.

And he's just like he's not trying to play it cool. He's just, that's just how he is. Did your girlfriends, I just talked about this on our podcast because I really think our girlfriends mean well, obviously. We wouldn't have girlfriends in our life who we didn't think want the best for us and all those things. But you do have to be careful. Yeah. Going to your girlfriends with these stories because it's only normal. If you come to me for advice, my advice to you is going to be directly connected to my experiences. Yeah.

So if I had a terrible situation with a guy who was telling me, he loved me, showing up, like love bombing. And then he turned out to be, you know, married or something. Yeah. Then I'd be like, you need to run for the hills. this guy isn't for you because that's my experience of that situation. Yeah. So it's like you have to kind of, I don't want to say take, you know, like the brain of salt

because some of my greatest therapy sessions have been with girlfriends. But I think you always need to kind of know. And it's not always with ill intent. But you got to be careful who you poll for sure. In the early days of new relationships. Yes. And even throughout the relationship, like if we are ever having a disagreement or something, like I have to be really careful about who I go to.

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It's like on Google. It said married in 2000. My research. Yeah. No, no, no, no. A lot of people don't know that. Okay. So when you were first with Tommy. Yeah. But it's so funny. I mean, it's always the same reaction when I don't. They're like, wait, what? You weren't actually married? I was like, no, never, never got married. And I regret that. Because I think I brought my issues of my childhood into the relationship. So instead of starting fresh,

instead of, you know, he's like a normal guy. His parents have been married for like 55 years or something. So I was like, no, no, no, hope we don't do marriage around here. Like my dad's been married five times. My mom's married three times. Like, we're not doing that. And I think that that is, that's not when one person is traditional and wants to get married. But then for the other person that it's going to create conflict, it's going to build resentment. It's going to, yeah.

Can I ask you a question about that? Yeah. Yeah. Because you guys separated. Yeah. How long ago? You know, it's like a very gray situation. I'm a very bad communicator. I do believe in chapters in life, whether it's like chapters with the same person, but we're all evolving hopefully. Yeah. We're all changing. Some people change together or they change apart. But you're, let's hope we're all evolving. And I do think the multiple chapters can include each other. A lot of the time they don't. Whenever I listen to people going, I have no regrets. I'm like, well, then you haven't really lived a lot because I have a lot of regrets. You know, and I think a lot of our podcast, you know, and I think a lot of our podcast. is talking to the girls in their 20s and 30s being like, guys, don't make this mistake. I believe you've got to make some mistakes.

Yeah. You know, there are so many, what is the book, the privileges of a skin knee or the, the, what it is is it's a parenting book actually. And it's like, let your kids mess up. Tessa, find it. Yeah. Tessa. Where's our back there?

No, but it's like the whole concept of as parenting, like, Let your kids fail. Yeah. Let them fail because like the only way to know how to recover, the only way how to, you know, build yourself back is by doing it. The blessings of a skin knee. That sounds right. Okay. Sounds right.

I read it like a long time. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've learned more from failure and from nose and from roadblocks and from having to like pivot than from any of the good stuff. of course, those are gratifying and motivate you to keep going and all of that. But I feel like hearing no or quote unquote failing, like that motivates me more than anything. Yeah, the whole like life is short, life is short. Life is long. I would not go back to being 21 for $10 trillion. You could say, I'm going to wire you $10 trillion right now, but you have to go back to being 21.

I would not take it. Yeah. You know, I think that's so encouraging. centuries ago. Yeah. Oh, God. I mean, I was, yeah. It feels like centuries. 21. That's what I think myself and so many people appreciate about you and that I think is very inspiring, like for lack of a better word, is to see somebody really stepping into their power in their 40s. I really truly believe like 40s are the new 20s because I just think we're living longer. Yeah. We're looking better. I want to get to that as well. Yeah. But like you see so many women accomplishing so much. And starting, like, I mean, it's not like you just started. Like, you've been working towards this for so long. Yeah, but all the things are happening in my 40s. Started how, like,

everything is like culminating and happening in your 40s. And, you know, so I remember feeling this way as well. Like in your 20s, you think that you have to have it all figured out. Like, I remember turning 29 to 30 and panicking. It was like an existential crisis because I wasn't married. I thought I had to freeze my eggs. I didn't know what I wanted to do my career. like you don't have to have it all figured out then. And I just think it's so encouraging to see somebody who's kind of living out their dreams in the way that you are in ways that you didn't even anticipate. Absolutely. Yeah. But where do you guys like just you guys like we're all just like we think it comes from? Because I know for me I felt like a failure at 21 because I grew up

in this fucked up town surrounded by people that it's not normal at 21 to be a millionaire. Yeah. It is not normal at 21 to have a business that's profitable. It is not normal at 21 to be a movie star and making, we bash L.A. We bash. Oh, kids that grow up in L.A. I have never done drugs. I have never been so wasted.

I can't remember where I was. I mean, I have never had a one-night stand. Not that that's bad, by the way. Now I'm kind of looking back going, I should have had some one-night stands. But I'm just saying this connotation towards kids that grow up in L.A. I've never had a DUI. Like, I've never done anything wrong, which, exactly. I grew up in Rhode Island and I did all of those.

Okay. Yeah, I know. By the way, I was saying to my sister that I have it, my 15 year old is like me. Okay. She's like never, she's very anti all the things. And I was saying to my sister, I was like, I kind of, am I a bad parent that I'm kind of like, go to a club, sneak into a club? You know, when I was 15, I was sneaking into clubs.

I wasn't drinking or doing drugs or any of those things, but I was, you know, living life. And she's like, yes, that is bad. That is bad parents. You do not want her. Keep her just the way she is. But anyway, so it's not normal to have it figured out. Even at 30. Mm-hmm.

I'm sorry. Like at 30, it's like, I don't know. I just think we're so desensitized because we see all these people now who are making money on Instagram or TikTok or. or only fans or blah, blah, blah, that we think that should be us. No, it shouldn't. Yeah. That is a rareified situation, you know?

Yeah. It's like, that's not normal. Yeah. But so for me, my best friend was Kate Hudson. She's getting nominated for an Oscar at 18 years old. And I'm, you know, 15 or 16 years old going, oh, I guess that's, I better get my shit together. Yeah.

Oh, my gosh. I would imagine. I mean, I think that it would be so. hard not to compare yourself. And now people have that on such a global scale. I mean, they can see what everybody is doing and what they're accomplishing on through social media. And like, we didn't have that. What is it? Okay, we're going to need you again. Is it? Is it Margaret Thatcher, Winston Churchill. Who is it? That said comparison is the thief of joy. Oh, yeah. And also, we compare our. Who is it? Oh, Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy. Good old Teddy. You're so cultured.

Good old Teddy. That's who it was. But think about it. It's true. Yeah. If any of us can walk down the street and find somebody who is, has thicker hair and, you know, round her butt and doing better and looking better and cuter guy, girl, whatever. It is like, there's not one person on this planet who can't, Rihanna can go compare herself to Beyonce. Yeah.

It's like, for sure. It doesn't discriminate. Okay. Yeah. We have a saying in recovery that we compare our insides to other people's outs. sides. And I'm like, yes, that's exactly it. Because we just see somebody's life, their picture, their whatever's going on, their nomination, their investment, like, whatever it is. And we are like, wow, they have it all. They must feel amazing. Like, they have the perfect partner, whatever. Like,

you're not thinking about what's actually going on underneath. And we know that we all have struggles. So it's like we're comparing our inner world to just that image, which is not an even matchup. When Bumble IPOed, Aaron and I were the creative directors at Bumble in, you know, for a while. And like, people were telling me they were like, oh my gosh, we worked at this lunch. And all anybody was talking about was like, I wonder what kind of plane the fosters are going to get. I go, guys, we are not getting a plane. Maybe we're going to get a new sofa. Yeah. Like it is not what. So like I heard for like a month, all of these conversations at lunches and dinners were like, did you see? but the Bumble IPO. Like they, people just assumed that we are like, you know, billionaires after this having no concept of actually,

you know, how equity works, what would make sense, what, like, yeah. Just assume things. It was like the same thing with Alex Earl,

like when Poppy got acquired. And they were like, Alex Earl has got like $100 million. And I'm like, I think she came in like very, very, very late right before the acquisition. So, I'm sure she made some money off of it, but like, nobody has what you think they do.

That's what Chris says all the time. Nobody has. He's like, I see it. He's like, nobody has. Nobody has what I think they do. Nobody's relationship is what you think it is. But like, it's none of your business. Yeah.

Once I stopped focusing on other people, good things started happening. Yeah. I'm telling you, I was constantly, why this, why that, why her? Why'd she get that thing? I'm funnier. I'm better. I'm blah. I was like doing all.

all the things you are not supposed to do. You block your blessings. Yeah. That energy blocks your blessings. And I blocked mine. Yeah. You know, I've had to learn a lot of things the hard way. And I don't know if you know this, but like when I was 21, so I got a movie, like a starring role in this movie, okay. I was a VJ on MTV. Like the modeling didn't really work out. So I was like, okay, I'll be a VJ. And the, you know, just like bouncing around. And I got this. I'll do. for a movie. And it was going to be, it was like Owen Wilson and Morgan Freeman and it was a huge budget movie and I audition like five times and like I saw Scarlett Johansson in the waiting room. Okay, this is in like 2002 or 2001 or whatever. I got the role. Oh my God. Okay. I got the role.

Everybody was like, you know, CIA signed me. Everybody was like, oh, I'm sorry, you're the next Cameron Diaz. And I would wake up every day going like, I'm the next Cameron Diaz. Like I believed the hype. Like, I believe the hype without actually doing the work. I crushed the auditions. I'll admit. Like, I worked really hard on those. I got the job. I was terrible. I was terrible because I don't know. Was it the entitlement? I don't know what it was, but I had this opportunity and I failed. I had this opportunity. And instead of doing what I should have done, I failed. You know, I just. happened with it. The movie bombed. I was just so bad in it. People were like, she's so bad. God. And so I'll ever forget. Somebody said, watching Sarah Foster, I read the reviews, obviously.

Watching Sarah Foster was like watching a contestant on a game show who doesn't know the answer. I will never forget it. I will never forget. I was like, oh, they're right. They're really right. But like, I had to. So after that, okay, and I got so much pressed and it was. And it was. like this whole thing. And everyone's like, what are you going to do next? And I was like, I don't know. Like, I'm going on auditions and I'm not getting anything, you know? So I was like, I got built up like up here and then really knocked down. And I was like sitting in my little apartment alone. And I was like, what the fuck am I going to do? Like actually, like, what am I going to do? I've now inflated my own ego thinking I'm this thing that I'm not. I have bills to pay,

contrary to what people, you know, thought, what am I going to do? And I called a friend and she was like, you need to like go backwards. You got to go to acting school. Like, you need to go to fucking acting school. What's, hello? And I signed up for comedy classes at Leslie Kahn Studios in Hollywood. And I remember walking into the class with people who had never booked a commercial. I mean, these are people who had never booked anything. And I had just booked this huge movie where, you know, and I walked in and there were a couple of people, they're like, my she. Like, I mean, what is this? I just saw you on a poster on sunset. Why are you here? This is for people that have never acted before. This is a beginner's class. And I was like, I think I'm a beginner.

And I felt so shitty about myself. That process, that like eight weeks of this intensive where I had to delayer all this, the mask of who I thought I should be and who I told myself I was, but who I really wasn't was the greatest gift ever because I actually, like, created so much confidence in that intensive because I had this teacher. I remember Leslie looked at me and she goes, after like two weeks, I went up and I performed and she looked at me and she goes, you are really funny. You are really funny. You have great timing.

Like, you can't do this. And it's like I needed that. And then from there, like, I started getting jobs. I mean, not big ones. Yeah. But like, I started getting jobs. And like work creates work. You know, work creates work. And I think that we have to, when you, when you go into life feeling like I'm better than this or this is below me or again, we're blocking your blessings. Like things got really good for me when I completely was like, oh, I'm not too good for any. There is nothing that I'm too good for and any opportunity that comes my way short of like prostitution. I'm going to do. And I started just saying yes to wild stuff. Okay?

Like wild stuff. Like we got offered this like little random t-shirt collaboration where it wasn't that dope. Like we didn't even have a lawyer look at the contract. It was kind of like, okay, we're going to peddle t-shirts now with like little captions on them that, you know, someone was like, you guys are really funny. you want to come up for captions on T-shirts? And I'm like, wait, I was a movie star recently. In my mind. In my mind, I was going to be, you know, but that T-shirt collaboration, without that, there would be no favorite daughter. That's crazy. I heard you talk about that.

There would be no favorite daughter. You just never know. You know, without so many things, there would not be that thing. So I always say to our young followers, but not even our young, our freaking any listener. Yeah. Like truly, guys, any age, I think that we think that we think, it's like bullshit when people say like, no, it's never too late. It actually never is too late. Yeah. It really is actually never too late. It's like that cliche thing where it's like Oprah didn't start until she was 50. This person didn't start till 55. Like there's a whole list. Maybe it's not cliche. I don't know. I just see it everywhere. I mean it doesn't mean you can just coast and no thing. And then all the sudden at 40 like it's all going to work out for you. Life does not work like that. Life doesn't reward you if you're not putting in the work. I love the saying yes thing though. And that's something that my ex has been said to. The which thing. He's saying yes to things because he was kind of in a similar position where I think he was at Fox at the time. And he was like, I'm the guy. Like, I just got a big deal with Fox.

He did two and a half man. What else do you do? Well, this was before that. So this was after he did like Rosanne. Oh yeah. Charlie she was in my movie. Charlie she was in my movie. Yeah.

But he like he got a big deal. And he was like, okay, I'm the guy. Like he kept writing pilots and they were horrible like one after another after another after another. And finally somebody in his life was like, you need to just start saying yes to different things. And somebody came to him with the idea for two and a half men. He said normally he would have been like, no, fuck no. And he was like, okay, yes. And then like that became huge, obviously.

And then after that he was able to do big bang. And that became like genomic. Yeah. Okay. So he's. Yeah. He's not struggling. Yeah.

And he was smart too. He looked at it as a business because he knew like if I can get all of these shows, he was in sitcoms. He's like, get them to 100. Get them to 100. And then he also, when streaming got really big, he purposely didn't sell off any seasons or anything until he sold the entire, every season, two and a half men and Big Bang as a package. Yeah, I think it was like astronomical. You know, like he was very like very smart. He bet on themselves. Yeah. Also men, I'd be so curious to know who his mentors were, who his like guy gang was. Because I always say, it's so interesting how men bring each other with them. Yeah. When men have opportunities,

they're like, yo, Johnny, you know, Billy, like, I got this thing. You want to come in with me? Like, they freaking, they bring opportunity to each other. They bring opportunity to each other. And women don't do that as much. Women are so competitive. We feel this scarcity. But I think it's because we don't get a lot often. So like there is kind of like, I mean, we do. I reject that. I'm crushing with so much more than a lot of the guys. But I think historically. Historically. Yeah, historically. But you know, I think it's flipped. I think it's flipped. I think women, I mean, we are the superior gender. We just are. I mean, I was saying to someone the other day, I was like, it's really interesting being in your 40s with a man who's in his 40s. It's like, it's a full-time

job being a woman in your 40s, having to navigate. Yeah. All the. blood tests and the freaking things that can go wrong and the things you have to monitor. And Tommy's like, I think I'm just going to uptake my water. Yeah. I'm going to, you know, up my water intake at 47. Maybe I'll start some vitamin C. And meanwhile, I'm Googling like, you know, colostrum from cows in New Zealand. Yeah.

You know, maybe that's going to, you know, help with my hair thinning and all my God. All the things. But, okay, I'm getting off topic. Oh, I want to go on this topic, though. You do. Yeah. Yeah, we should get to all that. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know, but let's stop. Yeah. You know, let's stop. Like, it doesn't take away from me if you do well. Yeah. If you do well, like, that helps me. Like, I hope you do well because maybe when you're doing well, people will find me from you doing well. Yeah. From you doing well. And they'll be like, oh, she's funny too or she's got something to say too. I'll listen to her podcast. Like, right? Like, Tessor. I think we are getting more. What is it? All rise to the tide. Oh. The rising tide lifts all. No. Ships? No.

The rising tide. Guys, I promise I'm well read. What is it? Tessa. Yeah, a rising tide. I was one word off. A rising. Come on.

A rising tide lifts all boats. It's true. It really is true. I love having girlfriends who are way more successful than me. I want to learn from them. I want to learn from them. I hope that maybe they can give me their opportunities that they don't want. Or I really like.

our thoughts or our, it's our inner vision board. What we think we create. So it's like, I think if we're telling ourselves all the time, like, she's got this and why don't I, it's like, you're just going to create that angst in your own life instead of going like, she's crushing, I am a little bit envious. Aaron always says us, but I know she didn't come up with it. Like, follow your envy. Follow your envy because the person, your envy, you're envies. You're of the person that you're kind of hating on, clearly they're doing something that is burning in you that you wish you were doing. Follow it. Follow it. Endure yourself to that person. Instead of being like, fuck her, she doesn't deserve it, she this, go, well, she does deserve it. She's doing it.

Yeah. Right. She's doing it. So she put herself in the position and she's doing it. I'm going to email her. I'm going to be like, you know what? What you're doing is cool. I love it. If there's ever anything you can think of that I might be good for or that you could use me for. like, I'd love to just be in your world. That is powerful. And I think that makes somebody magnetic, too. I think like women who are like just open, support other women, aren't competitive at all. It's everything.

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that fits into your routine. So Spark, Energy, and Focus is offering 30% off and free shipping when you go to DrinkSpark.com and use the code well at checkout. That's code well at drink spark.com. Okay, well, I'm going to, you're like, this is boring. Let's talk about Botox. I mean, I want to get shallow for a second. So you grew up in L.A. You've been in this world your whole life. And L.A. is hyper focused on aesthetics, maybe more so than. and other places. So I want to know about your relationship with beauty, especially as you are aging and you're in your 40s and how it's maybe changed or evolved and now that you have daughters and all

of that. Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, look, it's, it's, I feel bad for my daughters growing up now because I grew up where the only when I compared myself to were natural because there was no Botox. It wasn't facelifts for people in their 70s. Yeah. We didn't put so much importance on facial features or on hip to thigh to waist ratio. That wasn't a thing. Now, it doesn't mean in the 90s and early 2000s, we all didn't want to look good and we all didn't. But that meant like getting facials. Yeah. And, you know, not drinking for a couple days and staying hydrated. There just wasn't a pressure at all, you know. They're just, there's just, there's.

just wasn't. I look back on photos because we're almost the same age. I'm 45. Okay, I'm 40. It would be 41. Yeah. This year. But like early 2000s, I mean, it is, everyone was so individual looking. And like the standards for beauty were so different. And I get that that's what happens anyway. But I was just like, God, like, how did we get so far away from that? And I do all the things. And I'm open about like all the things that I've done. But I always say that I can't imagine having daughters right now. I just feel like it's so hard. Well, I think as mothers, they are watching us. Yeah. So look, I have a lot of really bad qualities. But one thing I will say is I do not obsess over how I look. Like, don't get me wrong. I want to look good. I work out.

I do things. We need to, we need the workout routine. I'm doing. You look amazing. Okay, I'm going to tell you all of them. But they are not seeing a mom who's like, spiraling, getting ready. Yeah. Or who's coming home with like, like bruises all over. And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying they don't see me obsessing over how I look. They see me taking care of myself, you know?

They see me not drinking. They see me going to the gym. They see me meditating. Don't come wrong. I do Botox. Like I do injections, like sculptor in the temples. Like I'm not saying I don't. I'm just saying like I don't want them.

to see it. Like I had bruises on my temples like a year ago and I was like, they cannot see this. Like, because I don't want them to think. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. So I think it's just important for us. I don't have the right answers. But I also don't say to them like, you're going to wear that or you know, brush your hair. Like, what are you wearing? Don't do that. Or like, you know, you're not going to put a little bit. You're not going to cover that pimple. Like, moms do that. They do. Yeah. What do you mean? They do. Yeah. And it's like it's so hard because I don't want to judge other moms. It's the worst thing in the world to judge other moms because it is, there's so much of it. It's crazy. There's so much of it. And we really are all, I would hope, doing the best we can and we're doing it differently.

But like, their first understanding of a woman's relationship to what she looks like is from you. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. So I think that we just need to be the example of like look good. feel good, be good. Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm. The trifecta.

The trifecta. Like, look, it's hard. I'm not going to lie. Like, it sucks. I have friends who are, like, 10 years older than me and look younger than me because they've had a facelift. I'm like, this is not fair. I'm like, this is not fair.

So now I have to get a face face. So I look like, it's like not fair. It's very crazy to me right now because I don't know if somebody is 42 or 28 or like an outlier of one of those. Like I, yeah, you do. Look at their hands. I mean, look at my hands look older than my face. Your eyes actually looks a lot. I was a tanning bed, tanning bed addict for like my whole teens and early 20s. And that's starting to show. So I feel like my face looks a little bit younger. I don't know. But yes, look at their hands. But I feel like the playing field is like very level

right now because people in their 50s can look like they're 30. Like it's crazy. I just can we just not normalize getting facelifts like in your 30s? Like are we doing that? I just, A, it's really expensive. So we're seeing women like take out second mortgages on their homes to like pay for these things because they feel like they have to do it. It's just a lot. Yeah.

I don't know. It's this is a slippery slope because I'm sure it's not going to be popular what I'm saying. But I'm a big believer, first of all, after 40, after 35. You can buy all the creams. You can do all the injections. If you are not doing the internal stuff, it does not matter. Yeah. If you are not sleeping eight hours a night, it doesn't matter.

If you are not like knowing what your levels are, your hormone levels, if you don't know your ferritin levels, if you don't, like, if you're not taking tons of vitamin C and zinc and things that promote collagen and boost collagen, it doesn't matter what moisturizer you have. Like the internal stuff is so important. I take like 500 supplements. Okay. Yeah, I need to hear about this because I'm not doing vitamin C or zinc. Okay. I can't. Now I feel like my collagen is trading. I can't hear this. Yeah, no, I don't. What? No. I mean, I know vitamin C. No. I mean, I know. I dabble in vitamin C, but I like forget, I don't know. I'm not like a big supplement person. I do the like very, very high dose omega's. I do vitamin D. This is like based on blood work. You know, you can't do any injections on omegas, right? Like, you will bruise like, create. Okay. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I can't. This is upsetting to me.

I know. I feel like I'm letting a lot of people down. Wait. So, well, this is why I, and I'm not like promoting anything. I'm not actually going to talk about. But I'm creating like my super powder. Amazing. I have to because it doesn't exist. Yeah. And I'm like, what is it? I'm like, guys, it's just like five core ingredients that are literal like anti-agent. And I hate the word anti-aging. And I hate the word. aging because like what's the opposite of why do we want to be anti-aging like the opposite of aging is like dying like we want to age like we want to age we just want to do it feeling good and I'm not trying to sit here being like I don't I do things okay I do the sculptor in the temples I do the Botox in my fore but I have a low brow so I'll never forget what's his name is famous dermatologist he said to me when I was like 24 he was like you're going to need a brow lift and I go I'm sorry, what? And this was like when there was, people were not doing surgery in the early 2000s. That was not a thing. Yeah. And I was like, oh my God. It was like a knife. He's like, because you have, he's like, your brow is so low. And I was like 24. He's like, your forehead is going to like fall into your eyes. And you're late 30s. And I was like, that doesn't sound good. That just doesn't. But your brows look good. But I would be lying if I said I haven't been like now. I'm like, wait.

do I need a brow lift? Like I will not touch my eyes. That, okay, that is one thing. I would, if I ever did a facelift or a brow lift, I would not touch my eyes. I think that women, it is not all a one size fits all thing. Yeah. You know, not everybody looks good with no eyelid skin. Yeah.

Some people do. Some people, it like opens the eyes and it's really good. I look better with no eyelid skin. Did you do your eyelids? Years look great. Years ago. I mean, your eyes look great. 18, 19.

But it was like so conservative. Yours look really good. But everyone has different eye shape. A lot of people are taking out too much and it makes them look older and they lose the character and their eyes. I know. No, I've been seeing people where I'm like, oh God. Yeah. Oh, God.

No, no, no. I know. So, but anyways, yeah, I'd be lying if I said I don't sit in the mirror going like. No, you don't need it. No. I'm so honest, I would tell you. What do I mean? Tell me. Okay. No, no, no. I'm not playing the skin.

Wait, why? I won't be offended at all. I don't think you need anything. No, your skin is very thick, first of all. Is that from the vitamin C and the zinc? Guess what? Because I'm like, you have a lot of collagen. There are no fillers or injectables that thicken your skin. No, I know. There are not. I know. It is only internal.

Yeah. Yeah, no, you look amazing. Approved. I still, I still think. I think I need to brawl it. Okay. I want to ask you some rapid fire to close out. Okay. What's the beauty rule that you'll never follow? The beauty rule I'll never follow is all these intense heat lasers that are killing the fat in your face. I need ladies to understand fat. Fat, why do you think all women look so gorgeous when they're pregnant? Yeah. Not because they're carrying life. Because they have fat and their extra fat in their face. Yeah. And the buckle fat removal. That is youth. That is youth. That's insane. Yeah. So stop doing things that take away the fat in your face and stop being so skinny.

Yeah. Stop being so skinny. I agree. It's not attractive. And I'm a girl who is, I've never taken a GLP1. I swear to God, on my children. Okay. I've never taken any sort of ozempic.

I've never had a lipo. I've never done a tummy talk. I've never done any of that. Okay. So I'm not like preaching, you know, people that. Yeah. do those things and then try to say something else. I've never done any of those things. I'm not judging you if you have. I just have not. I am naturally skinny. And let me tell you something, it's not a good

look. It's just not as you get older. It's not a good look. I have to work really hard to like up my protein, up all those things because it's not cute. Yeah, I agree. I did. That's not rapid fire. is it. One thing you started doing in your 40s that made a difference. Tretanoin. Okay. That was rather far. Because my daughter's doing it for her acne. No way.

And I was like, I started researching it. And I was like, yes. Okay. That's why your skin is so thick and looks so good. I don't care. I'm doing it anyway. Have it. I go out all the time with no makeup and no mascara.

Love it? Because I'm just sort of like, yeah, whatever. I hate mascara. I never wear it. I wore it today and I regret it. I never wear it. it. I never wear it. What's the product that you secretly hoard? My supplements. Okay. Most expensive thing you've done that wasn't worth it. Oh, I did. I would say my boobs. I got a

boob job after my second kid. And I have no feeling in my office. Oh. That sucks. That kind of sucked. Your current feel hot instantly trick. Nine hours of sleep. Yeah. Like sleep can take 10 years off your face. I didn't sleep while last night and I looked in the mirror this morning. I was like, I am a raisin. No, no, no. It shrivels. Everything shrivels. A 15 minute nap before an event can change your entire face. It's my dream. I can't nap. I can't even. I'm a napper. Do you take magnesium at night? Yes. Oh, good. Yeah. The fact you're not in the vitamin C pose me. I know. We need to talk after. What's one thing that changed your relationship with aging? I don't know. I guess realizing that no one actually gives a shit about me. No one's looking at me. No one's thinking about me. Like we're so obsessed with. people being like, did you see Sarah Foster, her eyelid skin's looking a little droopy or her skin is looking a little. Everyone's so obsessed with themselves. No one's actually analyzing like what I look like, but also like how I see me is not how you see me. You know, it's so different.

And it's just like stop obsessing, guys. Just stop obsessing. And I'm saying that as someone who's obsessed. Yeah. A lot. Love it. What's always in your bag? A phone charger. A hair clip. I get really dry. So I, like, hydrate a lot during, because I drink flat, flat coffee. Oh. Yeah, I use, like, I use like a Barbara Sturm sprits and like a Tacha sprits.

And then I use like a cheap moisturizer. Oh, less is more. I've been doing way. I used to have, like, 60 products that I would have to travel with. It was like, they confiscate it, blah, blah. I use, like, nothing now. Amazing. I agree with that too.

We're stripping our skin. We need to build our skin. Yeah, especially as our skin is getting thinner. You need to pivot. Okay, one more. What would you tell your 30-year-old self? What would you tell your 30-year-old self? You know, I was like, I really stressed about age in my 30s in a way that I don't stress

in my 40s. And I would say, you're never going to be as young as you are now. Yeah. You're never going to be. Every day. You're never going to be as young as you are now. Like, just stop. Like, I know.

that I'm going to be 60 going like, oh my God, I would do anything to be 45 again. Yeah. Anything. What would you do if you could be 45 and say, try to live like that. Yeah. Yeah. So true. I love it.

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