wellRED podcast - #1 - Origins
Episode Date: February 8, 2017Just like a super hero flick, if you wanna see Spider-Man whoop the shit out of the Goblin, you gotta watch him get his ass bit by that Spider first. Recorded right after the election, this episode... covers our thoughts on that, and also gives you a little background into where we came from and why we are the way we are. For Tickets to shows, go to wellredcomedy.com
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Hello, well read listeners.
This is Corey and I've jumped back in time here to these first few episodes to offer this
disclaimer off top.
If you're a first time listener, you're going to notice that the sound quality on the
first few episodes leaves a lot to be desired. That's on us. We got ahead of ourselves and we didn't
know what we were doing. Stick with us though because we got it figured out and it should be smooth
sailing from here on out. Again, I apologize, but you know, none of us ever claim to be tech savvy.
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Well, we're finally going to do it, I guess.
Yeah.
Well, here we are, guys.
We're recording a podcast.
I love your enthusiasm, Trey.
It's really having an effect on me, making me feel pumped.
Well, I mean, that's my thing, you know.
You said, well.
I mean, yeah, I'm not known for my...
Isn't it exciting that we just have the opportunity to even do something like this?
What a goddamn world?
This old lady right here, we're driving down the road right now,
everybody.
Did y'all see that lady with her turn signal on?
It's been on for like three miles.
She old as hell.
Old as fuck.
Handicapped tag hanging from the mirror.
She just got into the left lane, so, you know.
Oh, shit.
She meant it?
Yeah, maybe she just takes her a long time to make a decision.
I feel like an asshole now.
So, yeah, we're doing this podcast shit.
And we've been talking about this episode, the pilot episode, as it were, where it's
just us three for a while.
And we've actually recorded two other full episodes of the podcast
and the amount of time it's taking us to actually do this one.
Yeah.
Which is pretty raven.
It's very raven.
Should we get into that?
Go ahead define the mythos a little bit?
I think we're going to have to, as we go, start defining the mythos.
Like, we can't just, like, get into it right now.
Otherwise, you know, we'd have to have a glossary.
Yeah, but we could say what Raven is.
We can.
Well, that's going to make sense because you've already said it.
I know.
Well, so Raven is just like.
like typical.
Yeah.
Sitting in for typical.
So it is very raven of us to have, you know, waited this long to do this.
But the other two episodes, the two episodes we got in the can coming up, I feel pretty good about both of them.
I was only there for one, but I definitely feel good about it.
I feel good about them.
Hell yeah.
Should we tell people what this podcast is going to be about, Trey?
Oh, yeah.
Do we even know?
Do you know?
Do you know what it is?
Well, it's about us.
Right.
And being well-read.
Being Hinton.
Yeah.
It's basically the, you know, the liberal redneck podcast.
So that may not be what we call it, but I'm saying, people that are familiar with us are going to know what it is.
You got these hairs.
You got these hairs and your ears.
I got it.
Pull it out.
Ooh, get it.
I got it.
Damn, that was big.
There's still more.
White one?
Yeah.
I'm afraid if you pull them out, they'll come back and they'll be, like, thick and black.
I don't know how that works.
I'll leave him alone.
Oh, Corey.
How do you know?
I believe he knows about losing hair.
No, yeah, exactly.
You don't know anything about it coming back, though.
That is also hilarious.
No, it's just that there was the old, the old, uh...
About shaving and it'll come back thicker.
I know that's a miss.
But your hair, hold on, hold on.
Your hair does turn darker as you get older.
When you're little, you have like blonde ear hair,
and then when you're an old man, you have thick dark ear hair.
I'm aware of that, but I'm saying like you plucking it ain't going to be like...
That won't speed up the process?
I don't think so.
I don't think the hair underneath the roof can go like,
Oh, fuck you.
that fucking mole on the side of your face.
It's the same hair every time.
No, it's like eight more.
Every time Corey plucks his mole hair, y'all...
How's it looking right now?
Like 19 more hairs come back than it.
Now it's just all hair.
The whole mole is hair.
Yeah.
But they look like, like rat hairs or something, man.
They look like...
I'm making them monster noises
because they always tell me it looks like a goddamn monster
and it hurts my feelings.
Yeah, like tentacles of Cthuloo growing out of his face.
You were the first person to let me know that it was Cthuloo.
I don't even call him Chuloo.
Oh, not.
Here's things Corey didn't know how to say.
Corey called Cthuloo Chulu.
Chulhu.
He calls, what is it?
Tapatio hot sauce.
Tapatio hot sauce.
He calls it Tapatio.
And he called Mamosas.
Mimosis.
Which they is.
They are all your moses?
They're my moses.
God damn it.
Get away from it.
Well, guys, I don't think it might be a coincidence, but it is appropriate that we have decided to do this and started the first podcast.
days removed from a Trump presidency.
What do you think?
What is happening here?
Do we have any feelings about that?
Or do we all shut down and go numb?
I also just realize how interesting it is that this is going to be the first one
and the two we released after that.
It's before.
So it's going to be just like two episodes just going,
that ain't going to happen.
That ain't going to fucking happen.
That is true.
Do we talk?
I don't care.
I think that's great.
We did.
Oh, I'm sure it got brought up, you know,
because it was a day of the week and we are who the fuck we are.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
Yeah, that is going to be interesting, listening back to it.
No, I don't know.
I was, and I think, I mean, y'all know this because, hell, I went on the record multiple times.
That day, election day, we did our serious election show.
I said over and over again, no, I don't think he's going to win.
I recall Corey being the only one.
I did.
I said, I don't know, man.
I think he's got it.
And it checks out, you think of where Corey lives and shit, and that's where he was kind of coming from,
talking about seeing all these signs and everything.
But me and you were like, yeah, but your town is.
is a different.
Yeah, but I all that is so raven, because I do remember saying people in my hometown,
a lot of them hate Trump, so that makes me think he won't win.
But I also remember somehow being right about something.
So I think I just made that up in my head, though, because I love being wrong.
But no, but I also said.
You're right.
That sounds, you're exactly, I'm pretty sure I was like, no way he'll win.
But in my head until you said that just now, I was like, no, I probably predicted this.
No, what?
That's hilarious.
No, your retort to me was, well, yeah, in your hometown, yada yada.
But then I said, yeah, but just think about the 38 other states we've been.
to. Like, I just started remembering that day. I was like, man, I really have just seen way more of his shit than I have her of her shit.
And it just never, I just turned a blind eye to it because like, yeah, it ain't going to happen.
And I was like, we talked about this trade. I don't think we turned, at least you and I turned a blind eye to that.
We just said, well, his supporters are more fervent.
Right. But people who don't care to put a sign up for her are still going to go vote for.
Right. And so I think, you know, and I mean, we've been saying this for a while too.
but like if you think about places like Salina my hometown,
and I don't know for sure about some breaks,
because I know y'all got the railroad and shit,
and it's probably a little different.
Chickamauga's outside Chattanooga,
so probably a little different.
The railroad is the dying industry, but go on.
In Salina, you know, we had that clothing factory went out in the 90s after NAFTA,
and there's a whole lot of places in this country just like that,
and Salinas been devastated by it.
And if you think about those people in those places,
I mean, free trade, NAFTA, all that shit,
Those are like liberal ideals, you know, like liberal policies.
Right.
And that those policies to these people have, like, directly ruined their fucking lives.
Like, it's not hard to understand why they would feel that way anyway.
And so when people are like saying, liberals say all the time, I know I've been asked a lot.
Like, why don't rednecks, why don't they vote in line with their own economic self-interest?
I would argue, like, they just fucking did.
Or they thought they did.
At least as far as they think.
They think they did.
And that's really all that matters at the end of the day.
You know what I mean?
At the end of the day, he fucking won.
Yeah, I mean, again, they think they did.
Because, I mean, obviously Donald Trump has taken advantage of NAFTA his entire goddamn life.
And Mike Pence.
Well, he owned that.
No, I know he did.
But, dude, on a political level, though, Mike Pence, since the early 2000s has pushed to expand NAFTA.
Like, that's been one of his big fucking things.
I got to be honest, I started looking into Mike Pence.
and I got to think you can shock gay people into being straight.
And I just closed the book.
I was like, well, I'm done with this.
Yeah, it's really funny you say that, because I might have shared this with you,
but I was talking with a couple of my buddies who were Trump supporters,
so, you know, just any of my buddies.
Right.
And one of my buddies was like, man, you know, Corey, after he said,
fuck you and your candidate, y'all lost.
And I was like, ha, I get it, that's hilarious.
And like, 30 minutes later, he was like, dude, I was just looking into it.
And I had no idea that Mike Pence supported electroshock therapy for gays.
And I was like, yeah, he's crazy.
And my buddy was like, that's not good, man.
I was like, I'm really glad that you fucking have done your research post-election.
All right.
So you just referenced Salina in that town.
You are now referencing your buddies from your hometown.
Let's do that.
That would be a good thing to start the first episode off with.
Trey, where are you from?
It's called Salina, Tennessee.
In Clay County, it's in the middle of no.
where in north, middle Tennessee, up on the Kentucky line.
If anybody listening is familiar with the state of Tennessee, there's Cookville,
which is halfway between Nashville and Knoxville, and it's like a mid-sized college town.
Salinas 40 miles north and out of the way of Cookville.
I mean, it's extremely rural.
I was born in Cookville because babies are not born in Salina.
Well, on purpose.
I'm with you there.
I was not born where I was born.
Because you can't be.
Right.
Right. They drive you, they ship your pregnant mama to Cookville to shit you out because they don't have the resources for that at the hospital in Salina.
So, yeah, I was born in Cookville, but, I mean, they took me home to Salina and I lived in Salina my whole life until I went to college back in Cookville.
Right.
Now, you grow up, we'll talk about that. You didn't grow up just in one home or whatever.
No, for as long as I can remember, I lived in this house, my mom and dad, I say as long as I can remember, because we lived in like an apartment until I was about two, apparently, but I have no memory of it.
Okay.
I moved into this house.
It's a real small, you've been there.
Corey hasn't.
It's a real small, like three-bedroom brick house.
Yeah, that kind of stuff grosses me out.
But it's about the size of a, yeah, because it's about the size of like a double wide.
Whose house was that?
My mom and dads when I was little.
And there was seven.
Like they bought it.
They bought it on one of those housing programs.
Right.
You know, it's like subsidized or whatever.
Like poor people mortgages.
Yep.
What the hell is the name of that?
Fannie Mae?
Freddie Mac?
No, no.
No, it is Fannie Mae.
No, no, no.
It's, this one.
Freddie Mercury?
No, I wish.
If not, Fannie Mae is the perfect name for that.
By the way, for years, I thought that was lemonade.
It's not.
I heard Toby Key talk about it.
I'm a Fannie Mae.
And I'm like, why the fuck
Because he owns lemonade so hard.
Like the, shit, I don't know.
But, you know, HUD, housing over and development, like,
but it's like that, but it's, it's a different acronym?
Yes.
Well, buddy, you don't have to remember all the goddamn acronyms.
Human resources, something in others.
I don't know.
I don't think human resources gave your parents a home.
Human resources is come and talk to you because, you know,
did you see Danny grab Julie's tities?
We're going to have to fire.
Social services or the department of, what is it?
I don't know.
You should be.
Oh, no, I'm talking about at work.
When somebody at work does that and you witness this and they got to fire Danny because it's a sexual assault claim.
That's human resources.
I bet you there's been a bunch of Danny's been fired.
Well, we are definitely what we would call in the mud right now.
It doesn't matter.
Was it mud?
MUD?
No.
Major urban decks development.
Hilt.
Go on.
You got a poor people mortgages.
You got a poor.
Your dad and mom got a poor people mortgage.
Okay.
And then you were raised there to your 18.
Oh, okay.
They got divorced when I was seven.
My mom got custody, which, y'all, that's hilarious in retrospect.
Yeah, I, yeah, wait a Matt.
But that's just how it worked there, and then, and I think still I worked in a lot of places.
They defer to the woman.
It's just by default.
The mother just gets custody.
Unless the woman's like a crazy person.
Oh, I know.
Okay, we'll go into that.
How was your mom doing?
So she, when they first got divorced, she seemed like fine.
And we still saw my dad, like, quite a bit.
She never wanted, like, take us away from her or nothing,
but she had custody, so he owed her child support.
That will become relevant later.
And at first, we sort of split time, but more so lived with my mom.
And where did you live with in your mom?
All over.
We were constantly getting, you know, what I realize now,
we were getting evicted from places all the,
the time. I just thought we were moving a lot.
Right. You know, I didn't know.
You thought you were like an army brat, but your mom was in like the army of, you know, pills.
Pill Army. Salvation Army.
Needs salvation. Army brat.
That's a great joke. It's a great fucking joke.
You, uh, now were these apartments, houses, trailers, all three that you were moving around in.
No houses that I can remember. Apartments and trailers.
A lot of each of those.
That's a good joke and I can't use it.
The apartments were, like, income-based housing shit.
What the, the, there's a housing project, the projects of Solano.
We lived there for a while.
A bunch of trailer parks.
But just all over, I could, literally I couldn't count them.
I don't know.
Did that last your whole childhood, the rest of your childhood?
No.
When I was, probably that lasted.
I probably ended up living with my dad, like, basically full-time as of when I was probably, like, I don't know, 11.
or so, I'm just guessing.
And I would see my mom less and less frequently
over the years after that
because she got real
bad off on pills
and was selling them
and shit.
And I didn't
really at the time, I just did something was up with her,
didn't know what, and I was just, we were just
spending more and more time at my dad's house.
So ultimately, I really didn't
see my mom much at all.
And then she
So this is kind of funny, and y'all know this story.
So that's what happens.
So at the time I was like 11 until I left for college, I lived with my dad basically full-time.
In that same house I told you all about earlier, which is still there, and my me-ma lives in it now.
Because my dad passed away a couple years ago.
But so, me-ma lives there, and that's where I go when I go to Salinas that same house.
But I live with him full-time for 11 years.
Well, he technically owed her child support, right?
She had custody.
This is one of my favorite stories of all time.
And he stopped, he stopped paying it because he was like, fuck that.
They don't live with her.
She never even, I'm not going to pay her child support when I'm the one raising them.
Right, but he did not go to court to make that point.
Right.
And that's, exactly.
He never, he just said, fuck it, I'm not going to pay her.
And she never, like, came after him for it either at that time back in the day.
Because for whatever, all her faults and shit, I guess she realized that that would be very shitty.
So she just didn't.
And so he just didn't pay it and nothing ever happened.
Well, I got to be like 16 or 17 and somebody, the state or however that works,
you probably don't know better than I do through.
However that works, they like found out that he hadn't paid child support in so long.
They were just going through their backlog of shit or whatever, yeah.
And he had to go to court.
And me and Paige had to go to court to like not testify.
Not testify.
There was no jury, but we talked to like a judge in a room.
That is still testifying.
Okay.
Well, anyway, we had to go.
do that and tell them like no i live with my dad i'll live with my dad for this long whatever else so
you didn't go to page is your page is my sister who's three years younger me okay go ahead she hot
they help hey page hey page girl anyway they uh they uh they did not um that they didn't take they
i guess charge him or whatever you'd have to go to jail or nothing but they did say i guess
their point same as what yours was well you know
okay, we get it, but you did not go about this properly.
So it was ruled to still owe back pay.
And he was like, well, I ain't got it.
You know, tell him I ain't got it, man.
The classic.
Yeah.
And I ain't got it.
Well, you know, I ain't got it.
And they set him up and what they ended up doing was he was paying like $15 a month, right?
From that time just it.
that went to your mom?
Okay.
I didn't know that until literally after he died.
I found out, I'm getting ahead of myself a little bit.
So that was the ruling and everybody went about their lives.
And he paid $15 a month basically for the rest of his life.
Everybody, you know, he was never going to pay it off.
But that was how it ended up getting resolved.
So years later, in 2013, he passed away for pancreatic cancer.
and I was dealing with his, you know, his affairs.
And luckily, he didn't know any money at all other than what was left on the poor people mortgage.
And that child support shit.
And they, that was still a thing.
And so they called me one day, the state of Tennessee, whatever the division is, agency, whatever.
They called me and we're like, they're like, yeah, Mr. Crowder, you know, calling about in regards to your father.
his outstanding balance of whatever.
And I said, okay, you're talking about the child support, right?
And he still owed X amount or whatever.
And they were like, yeah, and I said, well, there's no money or anything.
He had no money when he died.
And they said, well, is, was there, does he have assets, like a house or something like that?
Because oftentimes what will happen is, you know, those get liquidated or whatever.
And then it'll come out of that, you know, pretty, pretty standard.
And I said, okay, that house is mine now.
I was like, that's in my name, all right?
And you're like, okay.
I said, so you want me to sell that house and pay you my own child support.
Is that what you're saying?
And she was like, and this was just some like lower level girl on the phone.
And immediately when I said it that way, she was like, um, well.
It's just that, and I was like, you want me to pay you my own child support.
But how in the world could these rednecks possibly vote against a liberal government that makes these rules to help these kids and protect them?
Yeah, I don't know. I can't figure it out there, Tristan.
So hilarious.
Because I told her, I was like, that's what you're saying, right?
Because I'm not doing that.
I was like, there's no way in hell I'm paying you my own child support.
That is like Willie Nelson song.
And she was like, well, can I have my district manager call you back, whatever?
And I was like, please, please have him call me back.
So let me guess.
What had to happen was your mom had to release the debt.
And that's when you found out she could have done that the whole time?
No.
While they told me, the manager called me, the regional manager, whatever, called me.
He was like, he was actually very cool.
He was like, you know, sorry about your law, Mr. Crowder.
and you're right, that would be absurd.
And so, like, he just, like,
canceled it.
Like, he had the authority to do that or whatever.
Like, he just forgave it or whatever the right words are.
Erased it.
But somehow, I don't remember exactly.
That was, you know, chaotic time in my life.
Right.
Because I also, right at around the time of my...
That tree voted for Trump.
There was a sign just on a goddamn tree.
Nailed to a tree, Trump.
Go ahead.
That was around the time of my dad.
Pine cones for Trump.
Exactly.
same time my second son was born and he was sick and in the hospital.
Right.
So, like, I was in a pretty bad place.
So I don't remember exactly what happened, but I think it was through my discussions with them on the phone that I found out that the money was going to her.
All right.
And I called and asked her and I was like, that money's been going to you this whole time?
Because I thought it, I don't know.
Who do you think it went to?
I was thought, I thought, like, you know what Corey said to me ago?
I was like, oh, but we need our or whatever.
Like, I don't know.
I thought it's administrative bullshit.
shit or something. I never really even thought about it.
But I was like, that money's been going to you the whole time?
And she was like, yeah. And she immediately got to fitness.
She's like, yeah, but I, you know, I needed that or whatever.
And I was like, for what?
Yeah, because she wasn't doing anything with or for y'all.
No, especially by the time she even started getting the money, hell, we were grown.
Right.
You know, and like, but I was like, for what?
Did he pay child support when she had y'all?
I mean, to my knowledge, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, there's just no way she goes.
squirm out of that. All right, I want to get into some of the darker stuff.
Your dad, you're talking about that issue if you want to.
But we've got the background of Salina and you growing up there.
Real quick, before I move on to Corey, I guess give a broader picture of Salina in terms of
population, who is living there, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
Okay, so I think the last census in the town of Salina, I don't know, it's like, I don't know,
around a thousand maybe now in the whole county it's actually a pretty big county clay county's
pretty good size county but it's all very rural in the whole county i want to say it's like maybe
five thousand people or something okay uh it but yeah it there's no traffic lights in the entire
county but you got a dairy queen we have a dairy coin no mcdonalds we have a subway now
goddamn uppity pretentious dairy queen having pieces to cry it is extremely rural i would love a dairy
claimed right now by the why i graduated high school with like 60 something people but that was
literally the biggest class they'd ever had at that high school the average class there i want to say
is like you know 42 you're number one out of 63 yeah for everyone listening tray is the only one still
alive but and what kind of so the you're the valedictorian is what i was getting at uh well to
actually no i was not what my cumulative my cumulative GPA which was the so that
We're the same?
This is new.
My GPA was 4.0.
What they called the cumulative GPA was 99.2 out of 100.
Okay.
And I still wasn't number one because there was a girl who was 99.5.
Oh, you got me by a woman.
That checks out.
So you was the salutary?
No.
I don't understand.
That salutary is the second place.
Yeah.
There was 99.5, whatever, 99.4, whatever.
And then me.
You bronze?
Yeah.
I do.
Oh, so you weren't validic or salutatory.
So nobody really saw this comment.
No.
That's actually.
We're going to circle back.
The thing about that is.
You came in third.
We got.
Despite the fact that I came in third, I was like.
No, I'm saying.
How is the motherfucker going to finish with a 99.2 and have a chip on his shoulder?
Yeah.
I'm not.
I'm trying to tell you.
He said, oh, so nobody saw this coming.
No.
I was, that's not how it went at all.
Right.
I was treated like fucking Goodwill hunting.
Of course.
But apparently you were Ben Affleck's character.
No, not at all.
All right.
So speaking of Ben Afflex character in Goodwill Hunting.
Corey, let's talk about where you're from.
What's up?
Well, I don't, just from being there, I didn't really glean too much.
I get that from the shit where he says about it.
And it blows my mind.
Yeah, no, it's wild.
It is weird.
But it's also like, if you go to the downtown area of Chickamauga,
uh-huh.
Like, I don't know, Chickamauga is like a cute little town.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like red, but weirdly red.
It's like a cute little old south town.
Like, Salinas just destitute.
Right.
I think it's proximity to Chattanooga, you know, gives people, what is it?
Oh, yeah, hope.
Oh, honey.
Yeah.
Well, it definitely helps.
but I mean, you know, now that that plant has kind of gone away.
I don't know.
The Shaw carpet plant?
Shaw and the Crystal Mills plant.
Like, every time you say that, I think you're about to say the crystal meth plant went away.
No, they're booming, I'd say.
Yeah, well, that's how they exploded that one instead of a wrecking ball.
But no, I have a bad, and I hope that's not the case, and maybe Trump will help check them on.
Like they think you will, but, like, I got a bad feeling.
I don't know, man, it could get.
It's about to get bad because those plants just closed down.
Yeah, because, I mean, there was a shitload of people who worked there.
man.
How recent was that?
A couple years.
I bet it's been two decades, Corey, just now figured it out.
Hell, the plant closed down?
No, it hasn't.
It hasn't been, no, it hasn't because I know the dude that ran it and he actually is a...
It is wild that they lasted as long as they did, though, to me.
Like, I wonder what the difference was.
Because, dude, I'm talking NAFTA passed and Oshosh was gone within a fucking year.
Yeah, well, I mean, it definitely wasn't as hot as it used to be, but there were still
people that worked there, and Steve Tarvin owned it.
And from what I can gather, did a really good job.
He is a state representative now.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Right.
So you grew up in a town with a thousand people.
There's also a plant there that only recently went away.
But as we were saying, you're a little closer to a big city.
So it's not quite as, it's rural, but it's not quite as rural.
There's like two sections of Chickamauga, and it's like, and it's still very much Chickamauga.
It's like, it's called Chickama.
What happened?
Scotty ATL responded.
No shit.
He said, uh, that's what's what?
What's up, man? Definitely hit me up. You got a show?
Scotty A.T.L. going to do our podcast?
I don't know. I ain't said. I just said, are you going to be in town Friday?
I'm a comic and a fan. Holler at me. And he, that's what he said.
Oh, my God. Tweeted him now while I'm lammat Chickamauga.
So what was I say? Oh, yeah, you got Chickamauga proper, I guess. And then there is what we call the Cove.
It is still very much Chickamauga. But I need to drive y'all out there. I haven't done that.
It's where, like, the dump is, and why there is, like, everybody's, there's land and shit like that, but, like, 12 brothers and sisters all live on the land.
You know what I mean?
It's not everybody's got there a big-ass, a lot of land.
It's just the entire family still live on these things, and you cannot, you know, that's all they have.
You can't get these mothers.
So many people in Shigamaga Parlor, like, we like to move out to the cove, but these fucking places have been in these families for generations and generations.
This is all we have.
God damn it.
We're keeping the farm.
So there's two very different sections of Chickamauga.
Now, there's a certain war that the remnants of which are very prevalent when I go through your hometown.
There's a lot of mention of it.
You want to talk about that?
Yeah, the War of Northern Aggression, as they call it there.
Chikamaga was, you know, the Battle of Chickamauga.
That's where that was.
It was the bloodiest two-day battle in the entire Civil War.
So, yes, we are...
Who won the battle?
The South won the battle.
But, I mean, at least that, you know, in your town at least, they're very graciously dealing with that.
It's not like they can't let go at all.
No, no, yeah, absolutely.
There's no, there's no reenactments once a year, and our street signs are definitely not still named after Bushrod fucking Johnson.
Yeah, no, they talk about that shit a lot.
Is Bushrod Johnson a real Confederate general's name?
He is, and what sucks is I want so badly to name my son that.
Listen, there is no way he was a good general, and I say that because if a southern, because I've
heard of every Southern General.
I know where you're going with this.
They are fucking putting it on everything.
Yeah.
Every street is named after a Southern General.
We made Stonewall Jackson president.
We would have made Robert R. Robert E. Lee president of, but we could have.
You know what I mean?
Like, all the Southern Generals, right?
I'll just realize that's a different war with Stonewall Jackson, but that's not the point.
The point is...
He was war 1812.
Right.
No.
No, he wasn't.
Hilt.
Stonewall Jackson is a Civil War and Drew Jackson.
Oh, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Old Hickory and Stonewall ain't the same thing.
The point is, every fucking street in the South, you can't go three of them without it being named Robert E. Lee Avenue.
If at all Bushrod Johnson was a decent general, literally the whole South would have just become one state called Bushrod.
Yeah, that's true.
We do have a street called Bushrod Johnson.
And the hotel is called...
No, the hotel is the General Bragg, but it's on Bushrod-Johnson Lane.
Bushrod Bragg would be one of the greatest band names ever if it weren't associated with so much shit.
That's what I'm saying.
I feel about his name the same way I do about the Rebel flag.
Objectively, it's cool when I look at it, but, you know, it means some shitty stuff.
I don't want anybody to know that I like it.
Exactly.
No, yeah, no, dude, Bushrod Johnson will be a badass name for a fucking kid, but, you know, it's associated with that.
And yeah, dude, that's, that's, and they have no, and I also live near the park, which is the battlefield park, and, like, there's monuments of these old racist.
And, you know, admittedly, I'm sure some of them were decent chaps.
but it's a wild area man and I definitely think that that contributes to
to I don't know the climate in my area and while people are maybe a little bit more
what would you in racist racist okay that's a good word
now but there's some of the shit you tell me about chickamauga sometimes and like I'm
blanking right now on any like one specific example but there's been so fucking many of them
I screenshot a lot of Facebook shit and sent it yeah there's a lot of that and also it's what you
told me about your church, all this stuff.
And, like, you say this shit, and I'm like, dude, I'm telling you, man.
Either way, it's like, I, like, Salinas not, like, say what you want about Salina.
And it does suck a lot of ways.
But some of the shit you tell me about shit you saw in Chickamauga or whatever, I just, I can't imagine that kind of shit happened in Salamaga.
I'd like to point out right now, the two of you that are listening.
But I've never intentionally disparage y'all.
I have just said things that I didn't realize were that bad.
and then it was brought to my attention that it was.
No, it was like you would just tell a story about the town in general or whatever.
I just didn't realize we were a little bit more wacky.
You are, at least to me.
I was just like, no, to a lot of people.
I mean, dude, I trust y'all's opinions, you know,
and it's just like, yeah, we got some weird shit going on.
I don't know what the deal is.
I'll give an example.
One of my favorite stories,
and course we're getting mad that I'm telling it,
because if somebody is listening, they're going to know who this is.
Apparently one time the sheriff lost his job,
because he got hammered and drove a golf cart around at the county fairgrounds and broke the fuck out of his leg.
Yeah, I don't mind you telling that at all.
That shit was fucking hilarious.
That's objectively hilarious.
Now, you hear that story.
You're listening.
You're like, all right, well, that's a weird thing that happened.
But every story Corey tells about Chickabagia is like that.
And he tells it nonchalantly.
He's like, well, there wasn't one time when the sheriff was riding around a golf cart drunk at the fairgrounds.
And he wouldn't get out.
And then he wrecked and broke his fucking legs.
We had to fire his ass.
That's hilarious and an insane.
It's insane.
It is insane.
Yeah, there's a lot of shit like that.
It goes on.
And again, I've just lived there my whole goddamn life, and it just, I guess I live in a bubble.
But a very insane one where I was like, that's how the world works.
Yeah, well, I always like, but to be fair, though, about Salina, I was talking to Paige, my sister recently about this.
And I was basically saying what I just said to y'all.
And I was like, you know, you know, Paige, Solana is not like that.
And she lived to be kind of funny.
She was like, what?
and my perception may be skewed by the fact that there were a lot of,
so we have a black community in the Salina of the Free Hills,
and a lot of the kids from the Free Hills were around my age.
I went, like I went three friends of mine in my grade growing up,
Josh, Kyle and Sky, y'all know Skybone.
Yeah, Skybone.
Y'all heard me talk about him and showed him his Facebook shit
because he's hilarious on there.
Is he the one that Two Titties is his friend?
I wonder whatever happened.
Hashtag three, two titties.
Two titties was locked up.
Skybone was locked up.
He led the campaign to get two tities out with the hashtag free two tities.
So anyway, those guys were all in my grade.
Their cousin Cedric was a great older than me.
And like, you know, Page, however, there was Skybone's little sister,
Sessie was in Page's grade.
But other than that, that was it.
and around her like cluster of her age group or whatever.
Right.
And she told me she did see, like they were racist and shitty and her grade.
And not that we didn't have racist in my grade or around my grade we did.
But I'm talking about stories about like somebody putting a noose in the running backs locker or that type of shit.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I wonder what the difference was in those two scenarios.
Three strapping young lads were black and yours.
Right.
And then it was just one girl in the other one.
I wish I could figure out why the racists were emboldened in one scenario.
No, I know, but I'm saying I never really realized that I was in a, that it was a little different for my grade or right, yeah.
You thought people might just be decent.
Right, but according to my sister, though, you know, it's still pretty shitty in Salina too as far as that kind of thing goes, but it wasn't really when I was growing up.
That's really wild because me and my sister have the complete opposite.
My sister's just like, no, Chickamauga's fine.
Everything's great.
Yeah, well, I mean, I never said that about saline.
But it's just like the extreme racism stuff, I would always kind of be like, man,
we don't really have that where I'm from.
But it turns out, you know, I might be wrong.
Right.
But yeah, we had, no, dude, Skyb.
Wasn't nobody fucking was Skybone.
Guaranteed.
You know, and that's why you didn't hear the M-word and shit.
Like, you know, in school growing up, you know, get your fucking ass with, dude.
Right.
Like the worst fight I can ever remember seeing Philip, one of their other countries.
cousins, when the Sky's cousins, Philip beat the fuck out of this guy on the square downtown
because that guy called him a nigger and he whipped his ass.
Is that the same story you wrote about the book?
Yes.
Okay.
I don't want to say that violence solves problems.
Right.
But it does sound like.
It didn't solve the problem, but it certainly made the racist realize, you know, what they need to do or not.
Their actions.
This is where me and liberals go, we part ways,
because I absolutely think violence solve problems.
And, I mean, like, not big problems that you should talk.
There's some problems you just can't talk about
because sometimes people don't want to fucking talk
because they're so goddamn stupid.
They don't want to hear your point.
You just got to fucking knock them out, and it's fine.
Every fight I've ever been in literally solved.
You heard it here first, folks, the liberal redneck hour,
Corey Forster with the hot take, punch them in the face.
No, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying that literally every...
Stand by?
You said it?
No, I am.
I'm saying every fight I've ever been in, absolutely solved a problem,
and me and that person are still friends.
How the fuck was that not fine?
I was just wondering, are Philip and a dude that called him the N-word still friends, Trey?
I mean, I doubt it.
But were they really to begin with?
No.
Okay.
I just wanted him to say no, and I thought it would be funny.
It would have been awesome to me if he was like, yeah, my other great.
Yeah, that had been wild a tale.
No, no, they were never really friends to begin with, you know.
But, yeah, you know, again,
you knew what would happen.
Right.
You know, so you just didn't hear that kind of shit a lot in my grades and the grades around it.
Again, apparently for my sister and younger classes, that wasn't necessarily true.
Well, I am from Sunbright, Tennessee.
We named it after the sun.
Some old man in a show the other night who had heard of it said,
you know what they call it that?
Because they cut all the damn trees down and found out how bright the sun was.
I don't know where he got that, but we do have a lot of property.
Yeah, we got a lot of property on by big corporations.
Yeah.
Sunbright is in Morgan County.
No relation to me.
They named it after a general who has never been there.
My family's from there.
Clay County's named after Henry Clay.
There's a pretty noted, like, statesman from back in the day, and I don't know.
You never been there either?
Chickamauga means a bloody river in, and, you know who's from Clay County, though?
I don't.
Cordell Hall, who founded the United Nations.
Well, that hits.
Yeah.
You see, you're falling in his footsteps, bringing people together.
uniting the nations.
That's right.
Me in Cordell Hill.
Anyway, it's tiny.
It's always been tiny.
It was a sort of booming town
for the area when the railroad
was the main way of getting around.
The railroad still goes to the town,
and I said earlier jokingly,
the railroads of dying industry,
it's not that the railroads of dying industry,
freight-wise, business is booming
for the railroad.
They dragging coal out of my land
with the railroad, all that.
But in terms of travel, that's done.
I don't know if you've heard
these horseless carriages we call cars
but they sort of like
from what I understand
Sunbrite had a bigger population
in the early 1900s than it does now
okay I thought I was about saying but yeah dude that's
been true for a while and as far as
you know transporting on trains
and shit so yeah that would hit
the other thing it did to Sunbrite in terms of the trains
the interstate system isolated Sumerat
because we are so far away from the
interstate salinas the same way so the closest
town we're close to I guess is Oak Ridge
where they built the bomb it's about 40 minutes away
O'Cridge, Tennessee. It's about an hour and 15
to Knoxville. And I remember going to the movies in
Oak Ridge, was a 45-minute drive, because that was
just like, if you wanted to go out and you had some money
or whatever, that's what you did. That was Cookville
for us. Cuckville was that town in
Salana. My dad
worked for the railroad, like we just
talking about, and he had to travel to do that
most of my life. Now that he's a little older, he's on
a gang that has a section of the
railroad. He can come home every night.
And my mom was a school teacher when she
got her degree. She was the first person
I'm trying to remember if one of her brothers or sisters got a four-year degree before her.
I don't think they did.
I think she was the first person in family.
Ooh, I'm going to make somebody upset.
I'm going to make some of my upset.
I think she was the first person in her 10-kid family to get a four-year degree.
That was when I was 13 or 14.
And my dad's side, I feel like my aunt Nancy had gotten a four-year degree, and that was it.
And your mama named Nancy, too.
Yeah, we have two Nancy Morgan's in my family.
We have Nancy Morgan, my aunt, who never married.
and Nancy Morgan, my mama.
Oh, so that's like your mom's sister-in-law is also named Nancy.
Yeah, because she ain't ever been married far as I know.
If she did, she said, fuck that other dude's last name.
I thought I was about to go in on you a little bit, but then around that checks out.
Because you're always making fun of me because I got a cousin named Trey.
Right.
But it is different.
Oh, yeah, no.
Two Nancy's got brought into each other's lives.
There was no planning or anyone who should have thought.
Well, there was no planning with me or Trey either.
Somebody planned to name the other one, Trey.
Who's the younger one?
me. Well, your parents went fucking. I don't care. His name is Robert,
trade, whatever. And also probably spelled right.
His name, yeah, T-R-E-Y.
Well, anyway, I mean, I don't know what else to say about Sunbright. It is the way it is.
Religion's a big thing there. The only industry in the whole county is the prison.
A lot of people work for the prison. A whole lot of people work for the prison. And the other
industry is pills, which my brother went to that industry pretty early on, and that was rough.
And, yeah, I don't know.
That's Sunbright, man.
I graduated with 43 people.
Well, it was tiny.
On the Spider-Man, too, huh?
I was going to ask you something about, oh, so, you looked up the census.
Do y'all have black people in Sunbrite?
No, we have, I don't have to look at the census.
I can just go into the town and see all 400 people.
I have a reason for saying that.
But, yes, I know what it is.
And so my friend Robert, I hope he's listening.
Hey, Robert.
he and his adopted sisters were the only people of color in the town.
They were Brazilian.
They were adopted.
There was no one else in the town until very recently.
Now, the last census probably has some.
I know there's a lady who goes to my mom's church who's Jamaican.
She's an immigrant from Jamaica, and she has her kids with her who were born in America,
but not Morgan County, as I recall.
And that's it in some right.
In the county, there are some black people.
Our population data says there's a fuckload of black people.
And the reason why, the same.
state prison is there.
All the guys that are in prison on some bullshit war on drugs charges.
Yes, those.
Is it a for-profit prison?
No, it is a state prison.
Well, I mean, yes, because the war on drugs is for profits.
Well, so Katie, my wife, the other day,
she was looking at census date after the election,
and she was like, you know, I know you talk about there being a black community
and Salina of it, and I was looking at the census stuff,
and it says the percentage of black population in Clay County is like,
I wouldn't say she said like 8 or 9 percent.
And she was like, and in Wayne County, it's like roughly the same.
She was like, but we didn't even, we didn't have any black people growing up at all.
And I was like, the prison's in Wayne County, right?
And she was like, yeah, but is that?
And we looked it up and that is how it works.
Yep.
So in a place of residence or whatever.
Yep.
And that prison is a for-profit prison.
It's owned by, you know, one of those.
That has to be like top five evil corporations on the planet.
Oh, absolutely.
Prison Corporation.
Did you hear Gary?
My brother's in prison listeners.
They tried to send him to that one.
It ended up not happening.
But they tried to send him to the Clay County thing.
Gary Johnson, surprise, surprise, things that all prisons should be for-profit prisons.
Yeah, so that's a fucking horrific.
He also wants to end the drug war, though.
I know he does.
The reason he said that is, you know, they said, well, you know, that's, why would you suggest that?
He's like, well, just the private sector does things better than the government.
Absolutely.
Well, I don't want you to take this person.
personally about your comment or you bringing it up,
but I don't give a fuck what Gary Johnson thinks about anything
because that election's over,
and now he goes back to being an insignificant fringe, motherfucker.
I was going to use it as a segue into talking about that at Summit Large,
but I do appreciate you just throwing that away.
I didn't. See, that's why I said what I said.
It has nothing to do with you.
I said, I don't give a fuck what Gary Johnson says.
I literally said that.
I even said, I'm not talking about you.
I'm talking about Gary Johnson,
but you are an insecure pussy.
Okay.
Anyways, Tray.
So Gary Johnson said that he wants them to all be for a private because the private sector just does a better job.
Yeah, he heard you.
That's your response.
See, people are so far removed from that because they're sitting there going, why is this fucking asshole yelling?
I don't know, Corey.
Maybe it's because I was trying to talk about my brother being in prison and you want to talk about Gary Johnson.
Maybe that's why I did it.
I wanted to ask you what you thought about that, but I wanted to say.
I told you what I thought about it.
Okay.
Well, you know what?
I'm just going to, do you have any jury does?
No, I'm all right.
All right.
Sorry.
But no, that's fucking, that's one of those things, you know.
That's all, dude, all, like, small government people.
Every argument they have is, like, that, you know, private industry is more efficient and just saves more money and whatever else.
But, dude, I don't know how you can't understand just immediately that it's a problem to incentivize people to imprison other people.
Like, when that's how you make your money, like, when your profit is derived entirely from locking people up.
Right.
You're going to want to grow.
Especially when that's one of his money.
That would be the case.
Especially when that's one of his main reasons to end the drug war.
He has talked about how we have turned the business of arresting people for drugs into a money-making venture.
It's like, how do you not see that connect to there, Gary?
Jerk, and I'll be honest with you real quick?
I really don't give a fuck what Gary Johnson has to say.
Thank you.
I agree.
You also don't give a fuck what I have to say about my brother being sent to different prisons.
I wanted to look back to that.
I'm pushing your buttons are easy.
What were you saying about your brother?
They tried to send them to a for-profit prison.
And that, well, yes, and that was like when that shit really hit home for me,
obviously I know, that's like all those things, right?
You know, if you're not an idiot, that a for-profit prison is a bad idea and evil.
And then when you think about, oh, fuck, like someone I care about is going to be sent to one of those.
He did get placed in a holding.
One of his transitional phases between state prisons, he was at one of those four-private.
And he said, it's fucking terrible here.
They don't give a shit.
They do not give a shit.
because I can't say, well, I'm going to, you know, report this.
They'll be like, go ahead, report it to who?
I don't give a fuck.
You tell my boss that I'm not feeding you.
They'll be like, thank you.
Things are saving us money.
Yeah, less food given to these, you know, animals in here.
Right.
That's the problem with all that.
Or not, well, you know, not the only problem, but people just, so many people who are like,
well, don't break the law.
Shouldn't be in prison.
Fuck them.
You know, like, that's the attitude.
It's all they're driving drunk as fuck.
Yeah.
But, yeah, nobody gets...
Being guilty of that.
Yeah, for sure.
That's what I'm saying.
Hey, should I take the bypass?
This is 75.
All right, cool.
Well, okay, so we, Trey and I have touched on some darker shit that don't.
We're going to get shit for driving doing this.
Who cares?
Yes, absolutely.
Bring it on.
So, somebody will bitch about it.
We touched on...
Drew's just miced up to a lapel, so I don't say, well, it would matter.
He's the one driving, and he's got his hands free, so it's...
I am holding a microphone.
in my goddamn hands.
And I hope
I hope you all got some shit
to say about it.
He will not let that stand.
I was like he's not going to
yeah, I know.
That's fucking hilarious.
If you ain't wrong
why you apologizing.
Yeah, that was very raven of Drew.
That's right.
No, fuck that.
I ain't got shit to hide.
Come after me, motherfuckers.
I wish your motherfucker,
Drew, I wish your motherfucker would,
Morgan.
I wish you'd nickname me that.
He just did.
Hell yeah.
I want that to be my website.
See, I can't nickname you that, though, because I already nicknamed Mosley from downtown Abbey that.
He did.
Mosley, I wish her motherfucker would.
What was it last name?
No, his first name was, oh, shit.
I think that was his name was like Charles Mosley.
Yeah, Charles, I wish Motherfucker Wood Mosley.
Yeah, Chuck Mosley.
Hey, well, as you say, I guess we've touched on some dark things, your dad dying, my brother been in prison.
I think, like, this podcast, us doing comedy, us doing comedy the way that we do.
A lot of that has to do with where we come from in our perspective,
but it also has to do with shit that's happened to us and our families.
So should we get into that before we cut it off?
I mean, we've talked about the destitute places we're from.
Now let's talk about the destitute lives we've led.
Yeah, well, one thing I said earlier, there was some other shit to say about Salina.
One thing I, but I kind of got it in there over the course of it,
but we actually did have black people there, like to an extent,
which I thought made a difference in the place.
But having said that.
And the way you look at the world, perhaps?
Yeah, I mean, I think so.
Or at least I actually knew black people growing up.
I'd met so many people.
It's like amazing how that changed you, huh?
Yeah, right, exactly.
But there were, but at the same time, Solana went like 76% for Trump in the election or something.
But again, dude, that fucking factory.
Now, hold on.
That's the primary, right?
That's the primary you're talking about, right?
No.
No.
But didn't he also win a big part of the primary?
Oh, he won the primary.
Yeah, the Republican primary won Salina by the big.
largest in the whole state. See, I think that's a more
interesting point. For sure, they went against
Cruz. Exactly. The people want to blame
racism, religion, all these
things for people in those areas voting for
Republicans, and there's some truth
to that, no doubt about it. But when
he won the Republican primary
in your county by a huge margin, that's
fucking eye-opening.
My whole thing on that is
and nobody on the like ultra-left
wants to hear it because all they think, you know,
they're a bunch of fucking racist and whatever else
and it's just the country took a step backwards, which
I mean, it did.
And yes, I'm not trying to discount that racism is a part of it or whatever and all that.
But to me, it's fucking crazy to think that your average person, your average white, you know, poor white American genuinely cares more about kicking the Muslims out or kicking the Mexicans out or whatever than he cares about getting a fucking job back or being able to, like, live the life that he used to have before the way he perceives it,
liberals fucked it up with their ideals.
Like, to me, it's absurd that people would,
even if you are racist motherfucker,
like, that they would care more about that
than they do about their own livelihoods.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, for, I mean, for a lot of them.
There's David Duke.
Yeah, for sure.
But I'm saying, I mean, dude, you've seen it.
So we on the left right now are just wanting to be like,
no, you know, fuck that.
It's the racism and the misogy.
or whatever else. That's what they wanted to hear, and he told them that, and that's why he won.
And again, I'm not trying to act like that ain't part of it.
But to just, like, pull the wool over your eyes about the rest.
Because I think the reason liberals do that is because the alternative would be to admit that they failed to fail.
Or they failed.
Right.
Which is the same thing.
You know, not caring about them is still failing because they thought, fuck them, we don't need them.
Who gives a shit what those people are going through?
We don't need them on our side.
You know, we can win with them.
out of them. We're right. They're wrong. We don't need them.
One of my favorite things that's come up this week in the wake of this election is on my
feet. I'm getting a lot of articles being shared where the headline is something along the
lines of, I'm so sick of hearing about the white working class. And I'm just like, well,
that's hilarious. You are tired of hearing about people who disagree with you's problems.
Where have I heard that before? Literally every day on Fox News. Their whole fucking rhetoric is we're
tired of hearing about the problems of people who ain't us who disagree with us.
That's their whole take on Black Lives Matter.
That's their whole take on immigrants and their situation.
That's their whole take on poor people.
That's their whole take, period.
You've adopted...
Quit whining.
Right.
You have adopted the Fox News mentality of, you disagree with me, and my problems are worse than yours, so fuck you.
Yeah, dude, to say, like, look, you're black person and experienced discrimination and been
disenfranchised, whatever, or a woman, and same thing, or gay, and same thing or whatever.
that you deserve fucking respect
and to have your voices heard and all that shit without a doubt.
But if you are one of those people to respond to all this with,
well, man, fuck poor white people.
Like, that's still shitty.
Well, and whether there's a lot of poor white people out there
who are good fucking people.
And to be like, well, fuck their problems.
I don't give a fuck.
Even if it's not shitty.
Even if you're like, fuck that.
It's not shitty.
I don't care about their problems.
They voted for a racist.
They don't care about my problems.
point with that is how can you ask someone to empathize with your life if you say it's fine for you
not to empathize with theirs that feels so disingenuous and to be honest what you do to be honest with
you i haven't seen a whole lot of in my personal feed i haven't seen a whole lot of black folks saying
that right i have seen so many like of the typical matter of fact i'm thinking of about four people
three of them are white men well we saw one black guy saying it
John Legend.
John Legend was saying on Bill Maher.
He did say that on Bill Maher.
I was upset that you got cut off.
He said, I've read so many articles, something, something, something.
And I wanted you to be like, and you got cut off.
I wanted you to be like, well, I've read a shitload of articles on what it's like being black.
Does that mean I get it?
Because he said, I've read some of the articles, we get it.
And I was like, I don't know if you do.
But even if you do get it, you can totally be like the problems of black America are more important than the problems.
That's fine.
Yeah.
It's just this reticate, this etiquette,
god damn it, rhetoric of,
I don't have to care or I'm so sick of it.
Do you not recognize that that sort of fatigue?
Well, just that that fatigue is exactly what you have lamented
people who don't want to hear about black people's problems for years.
I feel like you've got to choose.
You have to let them not give a fuck about your problems,
or you have to explain why it's okay for you not to care about theirs.
Yes, I agree completely.
I don't.
You're saying this.
It's all, yeah, we've got to do something.
No, I mean, it says it's putting off to the right, but you need to stay on 75, so.
I got it.
Oh, man.
But anyway, so, yeah, I don't know.
Do you want to talk about our fucking, what, what do you mean?
Our part, like, like, like.
Well, I don't know.
I feel like a lot of people, I feel like a lot of people are wondering, how do you become the little redneck?
You know, how do I become a public defender turn into a comedian?
How does Corey come up in the, not only Chickamauga, but the Chattanooga comedy scene,
with all of your heroes that I've,
met who are very funny that you've done comedy with, but they all do comedy very differently
than you. And I've heard some of them who I love and respect tell you, stop being so damn
political or don't say that shit. Yeah, I've heard that a lot. How do we become who we are? I think
people are interested in that question. I think a big part of it is our hometowns, but I think
there's more to it than that. Yeah, so y'all know, because I've answered that question quite a bit,
and I know y'all are fucking sick of hearing it, so just in a nutshell, basically, I have all
for years. It ain't like I've never thought about that. Like, why am I different? Why am I this
whatever.
And I've always chalked it up mostly to my uncle Tim, who y'all have met.
And he's gay.
That's my dad's only sibling, my dad's younger brother, Uncle Tim, and he's gay.
And that's what drove me away from the church at an early age once I found out he was gay and what being gay was.
And I was like, well, fuck all that shit they're saying about gay people then.
I don't want nothing to do with this.
And so I always thought that the church was a huge part of what made people that way.
because I left that.
It just didn't have that for most of my life growing up.
That's what I thought it was.
And then again,
y'all really kind of opened my eyes to that to an extent
because y'all are,
you know, we pretty much all agree on shit politically for the most part.
And y'all both grew up in the church, like, for a long fucking time.
And I know y'all said, like, yeah, that's still the reason, though,
which I give what you're saying.
But, you know, like, what I'm saying is,
outside of that, I don't have much of an explanation.
I always used to be like, you know, I'd like to think I would have been this way regardless, you know, that I would have turned out this way no matter what.
But, like, that's my only, if I need an explanation, that was the only explanation I ever had, really.
That and the fact that my dad, presumably because his brother is gay, my dad was always, you know, my dad didn't hate nobody.
He wasn't regressive in that way. He liked rock and roll and smoking weed and he loved his gay brother.
And so like, and he didn't go to church.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, you weren't raised necessarily up in it.
Right.
Well, and I've noticed, and this is a big part of this election recently, a lot of poor folk, they don't give a fuck about politics, you know?
Which is admittedly one of the quote-unquote problems, but did you talk about politics a whole lot?
No.
Outside of maybe your uncle being gay?
No.
And right.
And I've said that in some of these interviews, too, and people ask me about where I'm from or whatever.
And I'm like, look, maybe it's changed.
And I gather that it has.
I feel like it has.
It has changed.
Because of all the shit they've been.
been through, especially in the years since I've left.
And because somebody finally talked to him.
Exactly.
Trump and Bernie talked to him.
Right.
So it has, it has changed in that way.
But yeah, for me, man, growing up, like, they, uh, no, people weren't fucking political,
really in Salina.
Solana.
So I was a pretty apolitical place from my, from my perspective of it as a kid.
People didn't talk about politics much.
They just fucking lived their lives, basically.
And, oh, the old fuck them all.
They're all full of shit kind of thing.
And they were very religious.
You know, Jesus is huge there.
Don't get me wrong, but politics wasn't, at least back in the day, it wasn't really talked about much.
Including my dad, outside of, you know, don't be racist, don't hate gay people.
Let's all just get along and have a good time together.
That was about the extent of his political philosophy.
Now, he did vote for Bill Clinton, you know, I know that.
He hated George Bush.
Hated it.
But we didn't talk politics, no.
All right.
What about you, Corey?
What's the question?
else
what why am I the way that I am
yeah do you want to know because you you ask kind of a
two-parter question are you talking about comedically or as a human being
I guess both
I could take the easy
I know my mama would say this is that there's a
large part of me that is contrarian which I think me and you share
he's talking to me folks
Drew yeah yeah yes absolutely
we share that
I attribute a lot of mine to the church too which I wrote about it in the
of I started hearing some things that they were, when I got older, some things that they were saying that I just didn't agree with such as, uh,
just traffic don't hit.
That's what I was sorry.
I thought you're telling me to shut the fuck up.
Are you trying to stay on 75 South?
I is, isn't it not what I'm supposed to do?
Yeah, I mean, I thought.
Folks, did you hear that?
I was just complaining about the traffic and Corey thought I was talking about him again.
I saw you, you were doing this.
You were doing this.
No, he'd do it all the time, baby.
But you could complain about the traffic into the microphone.
I don't get you.
I didn't want to interrupt you.
Do you remember when we were in, God damn, fuck, all that.
Yeah, ultimately it's getting you back on 75 South, so just stay on 75 South.
But do you remember when we were in Boston at the Forbes Under 30 Summit when I was speaking there?
What was it?
What was it called?
The Forbes Under 30 Summit.
Oh, what is that?
That's where they, Ocean Spray let them set up next to their cranberry box.
When we were in Boston and Corey was looking for that sweatshirt and we were talking to that girl.
Oh, yeah.
She was peddling some shit for something.
Corey was like a few feet away from us.
That Colhan,
his footwear.
She was giving us some, like,
business cards for that kind of shit or whatever.
And Corey was a few feet away looking at things,
and she was just talking to us.
Corey, like, looked over there at us.
I go, what's going on?
Something happened over?
He's, like, looking over there.
And so we said to her, like, hey, yeah, we're here with that guy.
You see that guy?
She, like, turns and looks at him,
and he's watching all this.
We're like, yeah, do you think maybe you could just, like,
point at that guy and then, like, laugh really hard?
Well, I will admit that I said it,
And I'm often the one who's mean to Corey.
So he has earned this insecurity about me being a dig.
And so that she did.
I didn't think she wanted her.
I didn't either.
But she would just really like pouring out.
She started laughing.
He started laughing.
And Corey, who, he started.
What is it?
What are y'all saying?
You all talking about me?
So probably all started when I was five.
No.
Like I said, no, I've been.
And yeah, that was funny, by the way, you cock suckers.
but I was, yeah, I was always a contrarian.
And then I was in church and...
Corey, you're not supposed to say cock-sucker as an insult
because that is offensive to people who suck cox.
I mean, it was great that y'all did that.
I'll fix it in post.
You cocksucker.
So anyways, you know, I have black cousins and I had black friends
and I started hearing these weird little things at the church
that people would say at church.
And I was like, I don't think those are jokes anymore.
I think that's actually how they feel, you know.
Not that jokes are good.
but I mean, fuck, some of them are his jokes.
But they say stuff, and I was like, I don't agree with that.
And then I heard how they talked about fucking the hilarious.
Michael Eisner, when he did the, they were calm for his job at Disney because he basically was like,
oh, we're going to have a gay pride parade in my church thought that was literally the, it was a war on Christianity.
And all the kids had to burn their VHS tapes of Aladdin, which we didn't do that at my house.
But I sort of was like, God damn it, if they're this, what, what are they?
And then I found out that they were mostly conservatives.
I was like, I'm going to be the opposite of that.
Then I found out that was liberal.
And I remembered hearing the word liberal when I was a kid as a literal curse word.
Like liberal was something they called bad people.
You know, like they're liberals.
They're the ones trying to take, you know, get rid of the church and have the devil's music.
And I was like, yeah, fuck yeah, liberal.
That sounds like it.
All that sounds like it hence.
Yeah.
So I went that way and I was like, well, this is what I'm going to be.
And then I got old enough to kind of understand what that entailed because I didn't really know
at the time I was just being contrarian.
Then I got old enough to understand kind of what that meant.
And I was like, oh, shit, I was right.
You know, I was right the whole time.
Turns out a hip.
Yeah, exactly.
So I...
Snipped out the hits.
And everybody that went to that church was not a dumb, racist motherfucker.
But there was a lot that were.
And then, as you know, they're the loudest.
And so they're the ones that stick out my mind and, like, really represent that church.
Also, apparently no one was telling them, hey, don't do that at the church to go to.
No, nobody.
Absolutely not.
I mean, everybody's a little.
Well, your family left.
the church. We did leave. We left, but because
of, not exactly because of those two specific
things, but like, things started piling up,
and it was like, what are we doing here? You know, what the
fuck? Like, let's leave. So we left
and went to a church that I maintain
was good, mostly good. There was
a lot of great people there. I ended up
leaving there simply because
I didn't want to go to church anymore. Yeah.
But it had nothing to do with those people.
I didn't like the book. I didn't believe in the book.
The guy's saying the stuff about the book,
Pastor Darrell, I think, is a great
man. I still talk to him to this day.
Great guy.
The youth ministers and stuff, they were all great people.
It just wasn't for me because I was like, man, you know, again, I've been told about the devil.
The devil heads.
Speaking of books, we have a book.
We do.
It's a hidden book.
The Liberal Redneck Manifesto, Dragon Dixie out of the dark.
You can buy that wherever books are sold.
And we talk a lot about religion and poverty.
We do.
And all these things that made us who we are, racism in the South.
And I'm fucking proud of the book.
Are you guys proud of the book?
I'm super proud of the book.
I guess then I'll briefly do why I became the way I am.
I was sort of a political blank slate, I think, for the most part, coming into college,
which I think surprises people.
My parents are very faithful.
My father is a preacher.
He's a Baptist preacher.
My mom, she taught Sunday school, and she's a librarian at the school.
She taught history for a little while, too.
And I wasn't at all a religious blank slate, as you guys know.
I had a lot of things that had a real deep effect on me.
But politically, I mean,
My dad was like, you know, fuck them and let's keep all the money in the safe because they're all full of shit, you know.
And that had an effect.
I mean, he always told me he's like, well, I often vote Democrat because I'm in a union and that gives me a raise.
And I agree with a lot of what the Republicans say about certain issues, but I don't believe they're going to do anything about it.
And that did have an effect to me.
I guess that's the one not blank slate politically where I sort of had this like, well, they're all full of it kind of mentality.
And I don't know.
I think that my parents really are sweet, great people who care about serving.
My mom, like I just as a teacher.
My dad's a preacher.
And works for the railroad.
So, like, services.
So he's a preacher for free.
So service was a big thing for them.
I think that that had an effect on me.
And, you know, big surprise, guys.
You start doing a lot of service work and working in the service industry.
Unless it is super religious, you meet a lot of lefties.
Right.
Right. I did volunteer and I worked it after-school programs.
And eventually I became a public defender.
And I think a lot of that had to do with, I thought going to law school was a good idea because I was a kid from the middle of nowhere.
And law school sounded like a good way to get out of there.
And I ended up being a public defender just because it was interesting and it matched who I thought I was.
And I think it was one of those things where I was like, oh, fuck, I've always been liberal.
You guys had to tell, the world had to tell me this is what being liberal means.
Like I was like, what the fuck?
The justice system is bullshit.
it's clearly racist. The drug war is unfair. I think that the way cops, not all of them individually,
but the way the system is set up, they clearly profile black men, and that's unfair, and it's clearly
racist. And someone goes, you're liberal. And I was like, oh, I didn't, okay, I didn't know that.
Sweet. That's funny, because that was kind of pointed out to me, because I didn't go to college,
but I went straight to stand up at 16, and a lot of the dudes that I was doing comedy with were not liberal,
as you pointed out just a second ago. And, and again, I didn't really know.
what I identified with, I just knew that I loved
everybody. And then they would
tell me, like, oh, yeah, well, you're a liberal.
If you're not, if you're not liberal when you're 18,
you're, what is it, you're
main. You ain't got a, you ain't got a
heart. And if you ain't a conservative at
50 or whatever, you ain't got a brodie. And like
I, dude, I don't, I can't sit here and honestly
tell you that if I had have not started comedy,
and I just kept hanging around my buddies,
you know what I mean, and stayed in my hometown. I can't
tell you that I wouldn't have, some part of me
maybe been a little bit more conservative, but I just
decided I was that when I was young.
So, yeah, you can't tell us that some part you wouldn't have been affected by the environment you were in.
Well, I'm saying I still, but I still.
That's what I'm saying.
Everybody is, right?
Yeah, but I still live there.
It's just, but my people, like, I was in an incubator of comedy and those types of, I specifically hung out with fucking liberal, you know, cremudgeons.
Yeah, go ahead to, I didn't mean.
Some of the better cremuggians, in my opinion.
Absolutely.
You were saying about, uh, what?
You finding out that you were a liberal.
You had to have people tell you.
Well, no, I mean, that was it.
It was like, oh, I guess that's what I am because of X, Y, and Z.
You know, I line up with these ways.
And I think that's a shame, you know, because in terms of, like, economic policies,
it turns out I am fairly liberal, but, like, that I think could have went either way.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think that could have went either way for me.
Yeah, not me.
Like, me and Corey were talking about this before.
It's like, yeah, it started with, oh, you know, what gay people are, you know, not
demons.
you know,
there,
turns out
they're all right.
That's where it started for me.
You know,
gay demons would be the hit in her demons.
Yeah,
it'd be a great ban too.
Ooh,
your fire is flaming.
Tolerance of gay people
was my gateway liberalism,
you know,
but like,
genuinely,
I just fall on that side of the fence
on so many things.
And it's like,
I,
when,
we were talking about Corey,
like if somebody's fiscally conservative,
you know,
but socially liberal,
then it's like,
that I can,
you know,
debate and it's fine or whatever.
The socially conservative stuff, you know,
pisses me off because it's like just intolerant and shit.
But if you're physically conservative, then, hey, whatever.
But I don't fall on that side of that fence, though, at all.
And I've always, to me, like, you know,
because I grew up on food stamps and shit, man,
and I got pale grants and shit like that.
And, you know, I'm crushing it.
Like, I feel like I'm, you know, proof that those programs can work.
You know, and to me.
also, I've just always been like, okay, well, what's the alternative?
Because people are like, you know, like we're on Adam Carolla's podcast.
And he's like, there is a sign that we're going by right now that says your pretty face is going to hell.
Yes.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
That's an adult swim sign.
That's some sort of viral marketing thing.
And they got me.
All right.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
But we're on Adam Carolla's show, and he was talking about the kid that they took away his lunch and gave him just like a, you know, a shitty little cheese sandwich.
And Corolla was like, yeah, I mean, it's not.
the kids fault. I know, but fuck his parents. He's got
shitty parents. It's like, why do I have to pay for that
kid's parents or whatever? And okay,
I understand where he's coming from
and I understand where all of them are coming from with that
attitude. But my whole thing is
Right, you want to just raise a fucking pill-head kid.
My whole thing is like, yeah, of course, man. Of course fuck the kids' parents.
Nobody's arguing that. But like, what is
the alternative is to what?
Just fuck the kids over?
Keep feeding them cheese sandwiches and see how many
of them blow up schools.
Right. Yeah, honestly, it really does
in your favor work out to spend a little bit now on the fucking kid,
then, yeah, they come rob your goddamn house.
Yeah, you got to invest in the future.
That's what I was having...
Even though there probably isn't a future now.
I was having this argument with this lady I worked with in my old job.
He's a fucking...
TBS is a shitty fucking building.
Sweet lady.
We'd still like jobs there, TBS.
Absolutely.
Funny as shit.
That's an old one, I think.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Never mind.
TBSS.
Anyway.
And she was saying that.
She was like,
she doesn't believe in any of those government programs.
all welfare food stamps shouldn't be none of it and i was like so what what's the alternative
like what do you make just like let people starve to death literally let people in america
starved kids starve to death and she said she said no no no no i just it's not the government's
job is all i'm saying like you know the church can handle that or whatever else and i was like
i don't okay shit you think the church you know what about like the fucking they could have already
been doing that we wouldn't have to have any of this shit yeah do it do it yeah
Tell the church you get going.
You're not fucking going to.
Yeah.
And I also, you know, and I told her, and I know this is what Corey was just saying,
but like, okay, do that for a while.
Like, take away that guy who has two kids, his food stamps for a while because you don't believe in it.
It ain't right or whatever.
How long do you honestly think it's going to take before that dude comes for your shit?
You know, comes and breaks into your house or whatever because you got to do what you got to do.
You know what I mean?
Like, you're making.
desperate people that way
and that's not a fucking
good idea. Also,
the moral imperative. But Trey, don't you
understand when they break into the house? First of all,
you'll be heavily armed and all of your
family, including the three-year-old, would be well trained to
shoot that person, which you will do.
But if you shoot him in the leg and we take
him alive, then the private prisons will house
him forever for 13
cents a day. They'll make 13 cents off
of him because they'll also put him to work
in the factories that we have sent
abroad and he'll make the t-shirts that we wear
and we want to rely on China anymore.
Don't you see it?
It's a utopia.
It's like that scene in Goodwill Hunting.
I know my buddy's going.
He's got a piece of shrapnel and his ass that was built in the factory
that took his job in the first place.
And I remember that whole thing?
Yes.
I watched it literally last night.
I thought you was about to do that for like five whole minutes just now.
No, I was just trying to channel my inner.
Ain Rand.
I'm ran.
Yeah, but I went in sarcastically.
That's a new thing.
Well, that's still, shit.
it.
Ironically.
Ironically.
I went in ironically.
That's a new thing.
But yeah, so, right, that's how I feel about those kinds of issues.
So, like, pretty much down the line, I'm a fucking lefty.
Well, it's interesting.
Remember we had that Trump supporter come to our show with his wife?
And he said, first we didn't know that's who and what he was, that he was trolling us.
I just thought he was a drunk guy first.
And he goes, why?
But he was also trying to troll us.
Oh, no.
the one in West Palm Beach was different.
We didn't even talk to him.
But he goes, why?
The guy that opened with, why don't you go by progressive redneck?
That is the same.
And at first I thought it was a genuine question.
Like, he was generally curious.
So I was like, you know what?
That might be a better label for at least all of us together, the things we agree on.
That might be a better label.
And I hate that that's what's called progressive.
It's like if you just like people, you're.
Oh, man.
They're really making progress.
Progressive.
Yeah.
Right, yeah, exactly.
That's not hate, well, not fucking even like it, not hating people.
Right, just for the people listening now, I don't want to have a cliffhanger.
Then he went on to scream Donald Trump, tell us we were full.
I don't even remember what he was hammered.
Drew threatened to, whoop his ass, which hit for me.
Well, he said, he said something really shitty.
I don't think I do.
Okay, all right, my bad.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this way, right?
No, I think I needed to do that.
That was the headline.
Stay in the hover lane.
Anyway.
No, there was two.
One of them was a street.
Uh-huh.
Oh, no, yet.
You was right.
That was William Street.
Yeah.
That was the William Street productions for adults.
That was the Jay-Z lane for the street.
This is the Jay-Z lane.
Oh.
For 75.
All right.
So we did it right.
This was Pete's tree.
We're in Atlanta.
Anyway, yes, I forgot I did.
He said something.
That wasn't bad.
Do that again real quick.
You crazy for this one, Pete's tree.
Is that bad?
Now you sound like an old man, which he kind of does.
When you put yourself in a spot.
I asked if that was good.
You guys are hearing disease.
You said, do it again.
I said, was that good?
Are you going to say yes or no?
Then you said, do it again.
In order to better answer your question, motherfucker.
Go on about NAFTA.
I was having fun.
Well, anyway, the dude said something.
He said something either duchy or mildly threatening.
I think he said we'll meet outside or whatever.
He said, we'll meet outside, and I said, yeah, you're forgetting about the other word in our acronym
and our name here, buddy.
Yeah, we're liberal, but we're still rednecks.
Because he was a fat.
And I would put my boot in your ass.
I'm pretty sure.
Did I just think that?
I may have said that.
So anyway, we ain't too liberal because we're threatening to whip people's asses.
And that was like an old man.
I got problems.
I'm so.
I'm socially and physically, well, I'm socially and physically liberal, but I'm violently conservative.
When it comes to violence, God damn, I am Team Trump all the way.
Well, we are going to get here about this.
Not with who he wants to be violent.
I'm saying if somebody fucks with me.
Yeah, the right people.
You want to be violent to the correct people.
Only if they do something to me.
Yeah, I'm not just going to attack them.
I'm kidding.
I know.
Now, we are going to get shit for this.
That's fine.
They'll share it on their blogs.
Well, is there anything else?
Do we have any parting last words?
We've done over an hour.
I think we've obviously not covered everything,
but we've talked a little bit about who we are.
We've got the origin story out of the way, so next time we can just kind of go in.
Hit?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Trey, what's your thoughts on Donald Trump's America?
Speaking of putting people on the spot.
Actually, there was one thing I did want to circle back to it.
It's about Trump, though.
I wanted to see.
What I said on the show Friday night, on Bill Maher's show, and he was kind of like,
oh, really?
You know, I'm surprised.
He wasn't shitty about it, but he was like, oh, honestly, I'm kind of surprised by that.
About Rednecks hating him back in the day?
Do y'all agree with that?
that? Don't you think that...
Here's what I think... Am I off base on that?
Here's what I think Marr thought, and I think
it's fair, but I would never say that to his
smug-ass face. He's like an
alpha male big dick guy, and they like
that shit. Well, part of that, but I think what he was
getting at is... Talking about Trump. They like...
These rednecks love reality
television. I mean, they're the demographic for it,
so they probably watch his show, and they're like, fuck yeah,
here's what you were just saying. Here's an authoritarian
kicking ass. I think that's
somewhat fair to, like,
think that there's some mom in a trailer
who's like, I like Trump, I like to show, I might vote for him.
For sure.
And, you know, some dudes or whatever, sure, in the South who feel that way.
But generally speaking, generally speaking, who y'all were talking about,
who you separate maybe from those people who he doesn't.
Because you're talking about the working class.
I think he was talking about the people who live on the draw.
Right, right.
The working class?
Yeah, man, I about guarantee that the working class across this country thought,
fuck that piece of shit.
Because he was the problem.
He was the one shipping shit.
Without a doubt.
Redneck, like when I say redneck for this, yeah, I just mean rednecks in every goddamn state.
Just white working class people.
Rural motherfuckers.
Whatever, you know, name they go by wherever they're at, the fucking Woodchucks in Vermont and whatever else.
Those people.
Not saying black rednecks because we know they is.
Right.
But they, I've known so many of them over the course of my life, man.
You know, and I just, I'm so fucking confident, so confident that if you polled them three, whatever, four years ago,
or maybe a little bit more because, you know, before he went after Obama.
Right.
In 2012, there was like the Trumpassants.
But if you, but so right before, before he got political, basically, if you'd have pulled,
but he was still famous for being a douchebag, whatever.
If you'd poll them then, what do you think of Donald Trump?
It would have been overwhelmingly negative because he's smug.
He thinks he's better than everybody else.
And he's a rich and he was born rich, fucking shitty white, Yankee motherfuckers.
from the city. Amber, Amber, called him,
Sir, benevolent, douche-turd.
They would, they would
hate him, would they not?
Yeah. Do you agree with that?
No, I, I know, dude, not only do I agree,
I fucking know, because
the apprentice was a,
in Chickamauga, Chikamaga, is a huge reality
TV, fucking, everybody loved it there.
Dude, yes, everybody loves it there.
And, like, people, I would
go to their house to hang out with my buddies and their parents
would be watching The Apprentice, and they love
the show, but not because they like
Donald Trump. They hate, he was the
hill. They hated him. They hated him.
Yeah, and they hated him. Now, every now and then
he'd make him laugh. He sort of ran his campaign
as a bit of a hill, at least at first.
They would make him, he would make him laugh, and they just
genuinely liked the show, and there was no reason
to, they did, they were like this fucking
silver spoon-fed fucking douchebag,
but it's entertaining to watch
him fucking fire Brett Michaels.
No, they did not think that he, they were,
no part of them thought he was fit to leave.
That says to me that that is how
fucking desperate for someone
to believe in those people were, or, or,
or desperate for somebody to believe in them.
And how shitty of a candidate we write.
All right.
Well, so my prediction then for Trump's America,
and this is related to that,
in my opinion,
if he fucks this up,
and I don't mean like, you know,
the horrible things he has said about all Mexicans,
he's already fucking that shit up.
He appointed Steve Bannon into the White House,
who's fucking an alt-right racist.
Like, he's already fucking up a lot of things in that regard.
But when the jobs don't come back,
which they won't.
I don't know if those people will turn on him in like a fuck you
and now we're going to do something against you,
or if they'll just go back to being hopeless,
but it will be huge and it will be sudden
that they are no longer in support of him.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's going to, in my opinion,
let way for a...
Isn't there part of you that thinks that they'll just, you know,
find some way to rationalize it and blame us or blame whoever?
For a while.
But us, I mean, the last thing.
And I know he's got a Republican Congress and that shit, I know, but I'm saying you really don't think they'll find, at least in his first time.
In four years from now, he's like, well, let me do anything.
I want to fucking do, you know, that kind of shit.
And you don't think they'll buy that.
That cunt Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
No, because the people who you're talking about who do that year in and year out, they've been towing the party line for a long time.
Right.
I'm talking about the people who voted for Obama last time who voted for Trump.
Right.
I'm talking about those people who really are up for grabs who need and want to believe in somebody.
But, you know, maybe I'm being too hopeful, guys.
No, I don't know.
I mean, I want to think that.
I don't know that they'll ever come out and admit it because, you know.
Oh, yeah.
We all love being wrong.
Don't hit.
Yeah, dude, if America soars and, like, everyone's got a job and we're all getting along
and we actually somehow, and this will never happen under Trump,
but let's just say we somehow put racism behind us,
yeah, man, I'll just be sitting over in the corner like,
I told you shit was going to be bullshit.
You don't even see it.
Y'all acting like everything's good.
It's fucking terrible.
Yeah, yeah.
Dude,
yeah.
But he won't win a second term with that bullshit
because he had too many, you know, fringe voters.
Or like, well, he had too many people.
I don't think he won't win a second term, too.
For me, he won't win a second term unless he does really well
because he didn't get that many voters.
Right, right.
I think the left who didn't vote will vote.
And I guarantee you this, not for an overall election,
but for a second term election,
I guarantee you in four years it will be a record number of people turn out
for a second term president,
like somebody going up against the incumbent.
Because that normally is very low.
We've talked about that.
I don't think it'll be a record turnout overall,
but for an incumbent versus somebody else,
I guaranteeing to you there'll be a record turnout.
Well, I think that's a fucking great way to end this.
That's hopeful and, you know, good prediction, Corey.
Sometimes I hit.
All right.
Well, uh...
My president is black.
My lambos blue.
Tune in again next week when we have the inimitable Sarah Smarsh,
who is an absolutely phenomenal journalist originally from Kansas,
who she's about that life.
That's what I'll say.
It is amazing.
Make sure you play young Jeezy.
My president is black from here until the end of the year,
because after that you can, but it'll be ironically or nostalgically.
That's right.
Love y'all.
See you next time.
Bye.
