wellRED podcast - #115 - The Battle Of Winterfell (and Sinuses)

Episode Date: May 1, 2019

This week Trae catches the boys up on his recent setback concerning his sinus surgery and then they dive head first into this past week's epic episode of Game Of Thrones (SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY) This week's episode is brought to you by OUR BRAND NEW ALBUM THAT DEBUTED AT FREAKIN #2 ON THE BILLBOARD CHARTS: WellRED: Live From LexingtonAlso go to wellredcomedy.com to grab tickets for a show in a city near YOU! Love y'all.... Leave us a review and tell your friends!

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we really, really get into this past week's episode of Game of Thrones. So if you have not seen this past week's episode of Game of Thrones, turn that, we give a spoiler alert right before, but you're going to turn that shit off. So anyways, I hope you enjoy it. I hope you enjoy the episode of Game of Thrones. And if you want to hear our opinions on it, listen to this podcast. And we love you.

And skis. You. Well, well. We are. How you feeling, buddy? Not good. So, yeah, everybody listening. Do I just sound the way I used to sound now?

Actually, yeah, to me, you do. That's what I figured. So, like, y'all know I had that sinus surgery a little over three weeks ago, and then I had, like, healed up and was better. It was already, like, you know, preaching the gospel of it to other people about how effective it was. And then, uh, so like right after the surgery, I had the period of like, because, you know, my whole inside my face is just like, you know, a wound, right? It's, you know, been subjected to physical trauma. And the first part of the process is that healing. And that all healed up fine, no complications at all. And then, and that's when I was like, that was, it healed up, like, right, right at the time we went to Portland to do those shows. And I was like, I'm done, you know, recovery's over. That's it. And it's not so.

bad and this all hits. And I had about four days of that. And then I started basically, it feels like I have just a really bad sinus infection, just spewing mucus out. It's really gross, the whole thing. And to the point that I'm not sure if I don't actually have a just very poorly timed sinus infection at the same time, I do know this can be part of like the process after sinus surgery. but it's been so bad and also has gone on for so long at this point almost a week that I'm like,

no, no, this ain't normal. I'm sick, you know, but either way, I mean, at end of the day, it didn't result the same. I feel like I have a science infection, whether I do or not, and it does not hit. I'm going to see my E&T in the morning, so. Well, you had to see this coming. You'd think, but that's what makes it the most raven is that I really didn't. I really thought I had like gotten through it, you know. So anyway, something's going on with Drew.

Are those not on? No, they are on. You guys are super loud in both of them. That right there is the volume. Yeah, but I'm like afraid to touch it. Is that just for the headphones? Yeah. You're sure.

I'm pretty sure, yeah. I mean, I don't know which one is which, but Drew says we're... Corey, say something. Hey, buddy. Just hum for me. Eat my ass. What I'm doing? ain't working but what Corey's doing is working for me so you can hear him well try I'm fine yeah okay

yeah so we're good well try out I feel bad for you buddy I mean I you know my comic instinct is to make fun of you but that's fine that's fine well dude I know I know but I can't because you felt so good and I really just fucking hate this for you well do Corey maybe it's the fact that he's still getting sleep but I really expected to pick up just a nightmare of a human today and he was chipper. He started talking to me immediately. He had coffee in his hand. Oh, yeah, because it's fucking 10 there.

Right. Okay, I wasn't even thinking about that. Yeah, so he's sick. It's, you know, before the king usually shall wake. I just figured I was picking up just, you know, the quiet, grunting. Well, that part of it has not gone away. And I didn't talk about this on the podcast, but like, I have been, it's been easier for me to wake up. I've woken up feeling more rested and I've gotten less tired.

through the day since I had that sinus surgery, which is definitely a thing that can happen. Because, like, you think about it, I was breathing at, like, you know, 50% efficiency or whatever for years. And, like, I still have that. So, like, last night, like, I slept, I don't know, I went to about, like, 11.30 and slept to, like, 9 or something. So, I mean, energy-wise, I feel fine right now. I just also feel like I have a really bad fucking head cold.

So, like, I don't feel good. Well, that's going around. But I'm not. I know that's what I'm saying. Because Andy got it, dude. I guarantee that's what it. Callie had it, and I've been with Callie recently. I guarantee that's what it is because Andy has them too.

She needs to get what you got. She's got like constant sinus infections. And I just have a high top, I don't know, a good immune system in certain regards or something. Every time she gets sick. Because you'd be eating stuff off the ground with your hands. That's probably, yeah. Exactly. Every time she gets sick, I get mildly sick.

I probably gave this to you. I'm a carrier. That's how checks out. Put the disease in me. Now that sounds more like something I'd do. Put the disease in me. I'll give it to everyone else. She had an audition.

Listen to this shit. She had an audition. Andy won't take antibiotics. What? I mean, because they heard her... That's commendable at a certain level. They fuck her guts up real bad.

Like, real bad. So she just won't take them. And because she was getting sinus infections all the time, she suddenly had this theory of, like my body just don't have an immune system because I'm taking antibiotics every, you know, two months or whatever. Yeah, which checks out. There's something to that. Yeah, right.

So she stops. First couple of science infections after that are hell gets through it. Her body starts building up. So she can, it just, it's not as bad as it used to be. Blah, blah, blah. She doesn't have to go through that. She gets sick. She has an audition on Sunday.

Sometimes when she gets a science infection, she loses her voice because she coughs all night because it drains on. It's getting real gross. You guys know what happened to your voice. Yeah. And it just changes your voice anyway because you're stuffy. This is a musical audition. Right. It's a play about a folk singer, and it's based on this song, Katie Cruel, which is a, I'm pretty sure a whore that murdered people.

But anyway, that aside. She wouldn't do it. I begged her. Go get a Z-Pek. Go get a Z-Pek. Just do it. Just one time just go do it. Is that your doctor?

Yeah, I think so. I'll be right back. Tell Corey. Okay. So the audition is coming up. I'm like, Andy, you got to do it now. So we look it up on the internet. She's finally going to go do it.

But Z-Pax are like four or five-day cycles. So now it's the day, two days before the audition. She wakes up the next day. She can barely talk. She starts getting on the internet, doing all that shit. The end of the story is just she wakes up on Sunday. She's fine. She gets the audition.

The adrenaline kicks in. She has to learn to sing around the snot in her nose. knows. Oh my God. But her throat's okay. She books the part and then wakes up the next day and can't talk on Monday. Woof. She like willed herself to have a voice until the day after.

I mean, that's definitely a very real thing that happens. It's happened to, I know all three of us at random times on stage where I'm like, I've lost my voice before and been feeling like shit. but then, you know, boom, here's Showtime, and all of a sudden I'm up there, and I'm like, oh, shit, and never mind, I got it. And then the second I get off stage, all of a sudden I can't talk anymore. Adrenaline is fucking crazy. Well, do you remember in Fear and Loat in Las Vegas, the Johnny Depp version, not the Bill Murray version?

They get a hold. That was called where the Buffalo Rome is the Bill Murray version. Right. They get a hold of, I believe they call it adrenachrome. Yeah, I think I know what you're talking. I think I remember that. where essentially it's some kind of drug manifested from the human adrenal gland. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We need to get some of that. Yeah, that would. I mean, I think that's just called Adderall. I think that's what they've done. Yeah, I don't think so. But, I mean, I hear you, but we're talking adrenaline. Well, right. I mean, I know that it's not, it wouldn't technically be the same.

But, I mean, goddamn, if Adderall ain't the miracle cure all for, hey, do you not hit, but you need to hit? Here, take this. Well, yeah. I mean, meth is a hell of a drug. It is a hell of a drug And I really hate that I like it So he had to go His doctor just called him

Yeah he'd been calling his doctor Trying to get her to call I don't want to make it sound like trying to get her call He told me my doctor might call During this Because I'm certain He's walking back in right now

I think it was because And he's almost to the mic I think it was because This is a little abnormal What has happened to him According to the internet So I'm sure the doctor loved that getting called

Hey God damn internet said I ain't right. No. I'm certain that it's just a coincidence, but at the same time, my dad, when my dad had his heart attack, he almost didn't go to the hospital because coincidentally, he had been with a personal trainer that week doing bench press, and he just was convinced that that's why his chest was hurting. So, you know, weird coincidence has happened, but you probably still need to get your

fucking face checked out on account it's your face. My main thing was because I had it, because it got, it didn't really get, like, bad until the weekend and then like yesterday which was Monday I was like genuinely slammed busy all day despite being sick as hell or whatever and so it's just been like a few days and I was I wanted to know if like I was putting myself in like if it is an infection and because I just had surgery or whatever if there's like a possibility of it you know fucking me up or something long term because I'm like, you know, the state I'm in otherwise or whatever. But she said, she just called me and said that that's not, she's like, she basically was like,

she can't know until she looks up there and I'm going in the morning anyway and she's going to look. She said like it can, it can happen and be, you know, normal or it could be an infection. She's like, but if it is an infection, we'll just treat it and it's not going to like affect you long term or anything. So that's good. Well, there you go. That's good. What do you guys think about that? So, Corey, you just said, he said, I don't know if you heard it, Trey, that his dad, when he had his heart attack, almost didn't go to the hospital because he was working out. Yeah.

And you were talking about, you know, you looked this up. And I think, I think that's overall a good thing, the internet as it relates to the medical profession. But I also am aware there has to be some people out there who have died or gotten sicker or, you know what I mean? They're out there diagnosing themselves. and it's, and they fuck up. Like I told y'all, and I don't know if y'all already said this on here, but like, when this first started happening, and I've looked it up on the internet, and I swear to God, it was about 50-50.

It was like half of them would, like, verify that, yeah, this can happen and it's a normal thing after you've had sinus surgery or whatever. And the other half indicated that it's not at all normal, you know. It's like a sign of infection or whatever, so I didn't know what the hell to think. And I'm sure the Internet's like that with a lot of shit medically, you know, you can find things that support a bunch of different positions. That's why, I'm almost certain that it generally very does not hit for doctors that people do that. Not for sure.

Type of type of thing. Right. Well, they don't want to misdiagnosing themselves, but also they do want informed patients, right? I mean, I'm sure some are annoying because it's like they think they know more than you. But I also have to assume it's nice that some people can be like, hey, I read about this and this and this and, you know. Right. Like they're more comfortable. You know, you don't drive a half way.

I halfway know what I'm talking about. Yeah. I mean, that was how it was for me last week when I got my dog supremely fucked up on marijuana. Half the internet was like, it'll be fine. Just, you know, he might start shaking. He's going to be fucked up. Just stay with him. And then some of them were like, no, he can have a seizure and fucking die.

And so, you know, I don't know. It's almost like a law, like a cosmic law of the internet is that it has to be balanced between like, hits and don't hit. Yeah, it's more in the don't hit category a lot, but yeah. I don't know, man, there's a lot of things that really hit about it, too. So when I was having panic attacks, because my heart was fucked up, I don't know if I've ever talked much about that, maybe I have, I was having panic attacks mostly because my heart was out of rhythm and it was shooting adrenaline through my body.

We were just talking about that, I think, while you were gone, Trey, and how we'd like to do that as a drug, like they did on fear and loathing. and now that I'm thinking about it, Corey, and remembering that the cortisol effect is very real. If you shoot adrenaline in your body, cortisol comes next, and if you do that over and over again, you become a very fucked up individual as I was in New York City. Anyway.

Also, that's like the fight or flight drug, basically. So it seems to me like if you just took it recreationally, it would just feel like you were freaking the fuck out. Well, adrenaline, the first shot is like pure energy. Just like, let's fucking do this. But the second wave is what you're talking about. Right. It's like there's instinctive fight or flight, which I, you know, which is like, let's do this.

Yeah. And then there's, I think, like, the second wave. Anyway, I don't fucking know. I'm speaking out of my ass right now. What I do know is I've had a couple of panic attacks and like the third one was kind of different. And I looked up on the internet. I just typed in panic attack blood clot because I'd had a bunch of blood clots back then too. and a lot of times if a blood clot gets in your lung your body physically reacts a certain way

and it feels like a panic attack so I went to the fucking hospital right then turns out everything was fine but had I not had the internet you know what I mean yeah and it was a blood clot I would have definitely died because I was just sitting there in my apartment like oh I'm having a fucking heart attack and I talked to my cousin's husband who's a doctor and he's like yeah that happens all the time. Like one of the most common things that happens with

a blood clot is people die because they just think they're having a panic attack. Now if you type in blood clot panic attack on the internet, that'll help you and you'll go, oh wait, I need to go to the fucking hospital. This might be something serious. But if you just type in what you're feeling, most likely panic attack is going to

if you just type in your symptoms, panic attack's going to come up and then that might keep you at home. I would think that happens with heart attacks too a lot, you'd think. It's because I've always heard, right, I've always heard that, because I've never had a panic attack, knock on wood, and, you know, somehow. But, like, I've always heard that having a panic attack feels very, very similar to what it feels like when you have a heart attack. So a lot of times people having a panic attack for the first time think they're having a heart attack. Uh-huh.

But it ends up just being a panic attack. Well, but I don't know. That 100% happened to me, and as I haven't talked about on my. Oh, right. Last month. You don't even know. I literally went to the emergency room. No, I knew that.

In Knoxville? I didn't, yeah, but I'm saying I didn't say it on Mike. The podcast world doesn't know that. Right. No, trade and thing I knew. Because, right. Well, I, um, because yeah, what happened was is that, and I know that I have panic attacks and I know what panic attacks feel like.

But my problem is, is that my grandfather died of a heart attack and my father almost died of a heart attack. So if those two things, had never happened. I truly believe that every time I was having a panic attack, I wouldn't consider the heart attack option. But because that happened, I don't know when I'm going to be fine. I don't know when the moment is going to be that I'm like, no, it's okay. You definitely shouldn't worry at all because I'm just always worried that like one day it fucking is going to be that and you're not going to go to the hospital

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if you do watch Game of Thrones but have not seen the third episode of the final season which is the Battle of Winterfell if you have not seen that then skip ahead about I don't know 15 20 minutes well let's say 20 and in 20 minutes I'll start a timer

all right we'll get back on the mic and I'll say hey we stopped talking about Game of Thrones four minutes ago or I'll say, so go back four minutes and you can pick back up, or I'll say, hey, we're still talking about it. Skip a half more minutes. Yeah, we'll say 20 minutes. I'll address all this in the intro as well.

Also, I guess if you don't watch Game of Thrones in this, you can also just skip this part because it won't make any sense to you. But I know a lot of our fans do because, you know, now that I'm doing those recaps of it at our shows and stuff, I talk to a lot of people that I know be watching it. So, and also it's just, you know, the most massive show on television in a very long time, and it feels like almost everybody watches it. So, yeah, with all that said, the Battle of Winterfeld just happened, and that's the one where, you know,

the living versus the dead, you know, all the John Snow and Danny and all their assorted masses against the, uh, the army of the dead led by the Night King. and this is, this is, to me, the battle or the showdown that the entire show has been building up to

literally since the very opening scene of it. In the pilot, in the pilot, the opening scene of Game of Thrones is a guy being, a man of the night's watch being pursued by Whitewalkers through the forest.

So like, they've been setting this up, the long night, the battle for the dawn, all that. They've been setting this up the whole time. It's been John's nose

like entire, thing, his entire like storyline over the whole course of the show, basically. And it happened this week. And basically, so again, another disclaimer, I love the show. I think it's rad as hell. I'm still a huge fan because I'm going to say a bunch of things in a minute. It's going to make me sound like I, you know, that it don't hit for me. But the show very much does hit for me.

But like, the way I feel about the episode pretty much was like, while watching it and everything. It was super cool and entertaining. Like it was a really good time. A bunch of like wild shit happened. It was the Avengers of Game of Thrones episodes. Well, I don't feel, you can totally expand. Marvel, Marvel movie. I don't feel that way about Marvel movies, but I, you know, I know what you're saying. But basically, upon further reflection, even while watching it, but especially after it was over and the more I like look back on the episode, it was fun to watch all this shit. But there's just so many things about it that just don't make no goddamn sense. Like, it's just, you know.

I think I'm the opposite. Don't check out at all. I was watching it and I was very entertained, but I was like, what the fuck? And then some of the things I reflected on, I was like, actually, I like that and I like that. And I don't like X. Anyway, go ahead. Okay, so first and foremost, we were tech, me and Corey were texting about this yesterday. I mean, you were driving, but, you know, it was the group text thread.

I didn't read that, by the way. Probably the main thing for me, I guess, just as a general issue with it, is that they got all the main characters, right? Like the named characters that are part of the battle up until that point. And they basically didn't kill off any of them. They killed off a couple of them. But like the more minor ones except for Jora and Theon, right? But like all the rest of them, Jamie, Bryn, Pod, Gendry, the hound, fucking torments. and Sam, they all survived, which that's okay.

It's not just that they survive. It's not how they survived. It's not like I just want major characters to die just for the sake of that because it's Game of Thrones. That's what's supposed to happen. But it's like everybody else died. But it's the way they went about it. Yes, it's the way they went about it.

First of all, it's that by the end of it, the way they were showing everything, it looked like literally everyone else was dead except for named characters, but also, they just kept showing multiple times with all of them. They would show one of the named characters, like, they would show the dead closing in on them, and they like, oh, you know, this is it. They're about to die a situation. They cut away.

Then they cut back later, and they got out of it somehow, and they're still alive and hacking away. Yeah, that part was pretty cheesy, but... They did that a few times. I know, but I have to ask you, how do you feel about Theon and Jora? Because Andy loves Jora. She fucking loves Jora.

And so... He calls her granddaddy. Yeah, that's fixed insane because he's daddy. And I think for her, the episode was a lot more gut-wrenching to watch him die. Do you know what I mean? The way that Jora and Theon ultimately went out hit for me with both of them. But even with those two, but even with those two, to have Jora ride out with the Dothraki face that initial, you know, charge where all the Dothraki get killed. He comes back, survives, then remains on the front lines for the rest of it, and then

just runs to Danny to protect her for a little bit. Like, the way he ultimately went out was perfect for his character, but there was just a lot of shit in there. It's like, how in the hell did he even make it that far? And the same with Theon. I like the way it ultimately his character arc ended in the way he went out. But like, the way they filmed it, way before Theon, the Night King actually got there, they showed. showed what looked to be an insurmountable number of zombies taking over the ironborn in the godswood. But Theon managed just to hold them off with flaming arrows for like 20 more minutes. They didn't have to frame it that way.

They could have showed just a few trickling in. I disagree with your assessment of the framing. I saw it as a few trickling in, but they were starting to circle them, which I don't know why the fuck they would do that. They're zombies. They've never done that before. Right. Because where he was at in the wherewood, like that was the spot that they needed to hold the longest, I saw it as the few of zombies were getting to there.

It was a bottleneck situation, and it was hard to get to them. And I saw it as, there was like, what, 12 Ironborn? I saw it as like about 10 coming back to back to back, and the Ironborn were killing them, because they are easy to kill. I mean, that's fair to say, right? These zombies, if you have flaming arrows, because they're zombies, they just come right at you, they don't think, blah, blah, blah, unless the night. Night King is thinking for them.

Then once they got through, the Knight King stopped them all because he wanted to kill Braun himself. That part was interesting. Why not just, like, why did a night, what, his motivation is just to kill Bronn just let someone else kill him? Brian. Well, I don't know. It's weird because that part, I don't really have a, it seems like, I mean, he, the

Night King stood there and got blasted by Dragonfire and smirked and walked off. Like, I don't think he had. any concern whatsoever or any reservations that he would be able to literally just walk right up to brand and murder him himself, you know, so like. Well, there's two theories on that. One, George R. Martin has said he just always sees the Night King's death, which is why the showrunners never have him talk, because it's like death, you know, you start questioning death's motivation.

Existentially, you're in a bad fucking place. Death don't want nothing to just, you just die. But then there's another fan theory of like, you know, the whole thing with Braun, you know, I'm the memory of man. He wants to erase the memory of man. This dude used to be a man. Maybe he thinks if he kills Braun, he won't remember that. Like, he's in hell himself of a type.

And he just wants to release from that. Okay, see, these are all, this is another thing that kind of bother me about is all these questions you're asking. I don't think the way they ultimately portrayed it in the show, it was literally just, he was created by the children of the forest to destroy mankind. That's all he wants to do. He wants to kill the three-eyed raven because he's the memory. of mankind and so that's part of his mission too and that's all there is to it you rolled your eyes when you said that i loved that part i'll tell you why in a minute but go ahead i don't know it's just

like it's very it's very uh typical just like force of evil type shit he literally exists just to like kill us all there's like nothing else to it yeah but his creation i don't i don't get that because if he kills if he succeeds in killing all of mankind anyway there's no one left to have the memory of, I don't know, it just don't make sense to me. Well, it makes sense to me as a metaphor on that part. First of all, on the part about he's just pure evil, I like that, I guess, I like that overall in the show and the books. Because yes, he is, but he was created in a grayer area. There's no gray area with him, but when the children of the forest created him,

it was because they were in a battle with people who were destroying their home. and a lot of people have talked about how, and I'm going to sound like super woke right now, this is not my theory, like children of the forest. Mankind was destroying their home, so they created, it's like...

It's climate change. Yes. Okay, well, that leads to probably my number one. Boys, if you don't mind for a second, I'll just need to use the latrine. I can't talk. The latrine, please keep talking. I can hear you,

but I've got to go piss before we get into the fucking Night King situation. Okay. I agree. I've heard that too, and that's always hit for me. And honestly, I was always like, I think that's probably exactly it because that checks out that the others and the Night King Army of the Dead represent climate change basically, you know, metaphorically speaking. But that leads to my- The Children of the Forest created it in order to get rid of- To stop mankind from destroying the, right. I mean, I have a joke about how the Earth is trying to kill us and I'm pulling for the Earth. I dig all that, and I think that checks out. But that leads to my number of people. number one overarching criticism of the thing is that I still just think it's wild that they did this first in the last season. Like before,

I literally never even questioned it. I've been taking it for granted the whole time that one way or another, the Searcy shit would wrap up first. Either they'd kill her because she wouldn't come around or she or the Knight King would come to King's Landing or something and she even she would have to admit and they join forces or whatever. But either way, it would ultimately result in. Everyone left against the Night King, and that's the very last battle.

Because the whole point of that storyline to me and of John's whole deal the whole time has been, and this also fits with the climate change metaphor, has been, hey, all these political squabbles and stuff among different factions of human, like, none of this shit matters. None of it matters. Put it aside. We're all going to fucking die if we don't, like, come together and face this threat. and to me having doing it this way knocking this out first and then having sercy be the final boss at the very end to me like undermines all that like I just think it's a really weird choice to go about it that way I hear you but I feel like

you almost answered it in that because you can't they can't kind of wrap up the surcey thing before all this because no one is concerned with that as much because they're so concerned with looming death like they there couldn't be a usurper situation in the midst of all this because everybody was, you know, except for the search is trying to get their shit together for this battle. I saw a fan theory before this episode, like a bunch of different people saying it. And this is just one example of how they could have gone about doing that. I saw a fan theory that was going to say, or that it was going to be that it was like a

fake out, the Battle of Winterfell, that the Knight King wasn't even there, that he was taking another force and also the zombie dragon to King's Landing, the biggest city, where there's a million potential new zombies for him to take over, and that this was like a diversion or a misdirect. So, like, what would happen is they win the Battle of Winterfield. They're like, yay, you know, we did it. Awesome. But it wasn't, it was just a diversion.

And meanwhile, the Night King goes to Kings Landing, either kills Circe or not or whatever, but basically takes it over. Now, they're all zombies. And then all that's, like, all that's left is for the remainder of man to join together and fucking take him out. the final battle or, you know, whatever. And that's like one example of how they could have done it.

But also they didn't have to have him be there already is also my thing. You know what I mean? Like they could have sort of held him up and had Searcy like she wants to attack them while they're not paying attention or something. I don't know. There's ways to go about doing that, in my opinion. Well, I think for them as showrunners, it probably came down to them believing that their fan base was more interested in the guys. in the Game of Thrones, which, by the way, is exactly why climate change is going to kill us. That, I think that is, that is the reason that they did it the way they did it.

It's because Searcy and these are all characters that we've gotten invested in and invested in hating or whatever. So even though, like, at a high level, it doesn't make as much sense, people want to see them, like, go down more. Right, because if you kill Searcy, in episode three. Right. I think that as writers that it was like probably a bigger challenge which is a cop out.

But do you know what I mean? No, I agree with you. The exact thing you're saying, I also think that's why they did it. I just still, it ultimately I'm not into it because like I said, it undermines the whole like

that entire metaphor of what the others represented and everything to me. There's other theories out there that it's not completely over. I don't know if I buy that because there's only got three episodes and it'd be very difficult to swing that story back around.

Yeah, I don't see how they can do it. What did you guys feel about Aria? Okay. Well, I'll tell you. Go ahead, Corey. I've been talking this whole long. No, you're fine. I just wanted to say this one thing

that I just want to bitch about for a second. I think it was a New York Times article or something like that that was a show. It was a recap of the show. And the author said that they thought it was awesome that they let a secondary character like Aria defeat the Night King and that pissed me off.

In what fucking way is she a goddamn secondary character? Now I realize this is just one person saying this but that just made me really mad because that really very much hit for me that she got to do it and she's not a fucking secondary character

she's one of the best characters on the fucking show. So I just wanted to say that before we got into it. I think probably and I could be wrong because I didn't read that or whatever I think probably what they meant

maybe is But Aria is clearly not a secondary character at all in the big scheme of things. But she also, she has been secondary or ancillary or whatever to the Night King, like, storyline. She didn't even know who the Night King was to like two episodes ago or something. That's what a lot of fans... And so it came out of nowhere, which made it hit for me. Me too. That's what a lot of fans, that's why a lot of fans have a problem with it.

I don't have a problem with Aria doing it. I do have a problem with the execution of it. because it just doesn't. I mean, what did she do? She's like, she's, I don't know how she got past them. The face of death, man. I just doesn't. Ah, no, that hits for me, and here's why.

Here's why it hits for me. Because she has trained for this for years with almost no one knowing it until very recently, but her. And, like, to me, that is exactly, like, that's a perfect metaphor for success. I mean, hell, look at what we do. For years, no one knows what we do. you know, like a few people, I don't mean no one, but you know what I mean? There's no fans. There's no one like watching.

You don't get any glory for the work that you put in. Whereas John's out there, front lines, learning as he goes, and that was a cool story, but that's so typical. You know what I mean? It's so typical, oh, we don't know. Oh, it turns out he's royalty, and then he becomes a leader, and then he becomes this leader, and he's the king. And then he says, I don't even want the fucking crown. And then the hero kills the bad guy. Like, we've seen that story a billion times.

They subverted all that. And that's fine with me. They subverted it. But then also, in terms of the execution, dude, literally for years, she's been training for that. For years, she's been sneaking up on people. It might have been cooler if she'd pretended, you know, if she'd put on a face of some sort. That might have been like, that's what I'm saying. Like either, I don't, I don't think it's, does she have to personally kill someone to wear their face?

Yes. Okay, well, then I don't know how they would have even gone about doing it. But yeah, is it even possible to wear a White Walker's face or something? And I don't know. And she can't. When she stabbed that girl in the library. Remember that part? I thought.

Yeah, she stabbed her right up the throat, hit. Like, I really thought, oh, she's going to wear that face. And when she left, when Melisandra told her, you know, blue eyes, reminded her blue eyes. And she left. I knew exactly what she was going to do. I have expected her to put on someone else's face. But I'm arguing that this is great television and a cool metaphor. How did she get past others?

people because she's been training for it for years with you know in the dark not knowing what the motivation was and she's she's the light bringer you know i mean she's the sword like and part of the prophecy is that you know a prince will be born and but light bringer is who will kill the knight king that well that's not a zora high that's the prophecy azora high reborn and it's the lightbringer and the prince or princess it was promised and all that azora high is the prince that's all kind of that was promised, but the Lightbringer is just the prince's sword. That's true.

Well, I mean, if John becomes king... They kind of just abandoned all that in the show, which I'm okay with. Well, I'd make the argument, if John becomes king, I mean, he's going to make Ari a one of his top generals, that's his sword. What if he made... You know what I mean? Yeah, I just don't...

I don't... I get what you're saying. She's been training for this for years. I understand that, but to me it was just another example in an episode filled with them of, like, pretty much impossible things happened. I just completely disagree. But I mean, how?

But how would they... Our army was there, like, surrounded it. Remember when she snuck up on John? It was foreshadowing, like, two episodes ago. John was in there alone. I get that. But I'm saying, like, how did she... How has she done any of the things that she's done?

She's become other human beings. There's a supernatural... The Lord of Light. To what she has done since she became one of the... What are they... called the bravos people uh the god of the black of the blackest

faceless man since she's become a faceless man she's done in my opinion many supernatural unbelievable things well that okay on that note in it's like at season five or six one where the waif the other chick that's in the faceless man the one that

Ari ends up fighting blind when she ends up uh when she fools aria because she's wearing some old lady's face stabs her right in the gut throws her over a bridge And then right after that, Aria goes on like a Jason Bourne-style foot chase through the streets of Bravo's where she's like baseball sliding, through Apple carts and all this stuff. And like, like that was another example for me in the show of like, like, what kind of Michael Bay shit is this?

Like, this don't make any sense. It's cool, but it don't make any sense. And I felt like this episode was filled with that shit. But that's like a physical thing. I'm saying in general with her training. I mean, she lost her sight and got it back. Like, there's so much, I mean, again, people, faceless men can become different human beings. There's such a supernatural element of it.

She's a witch. She's part warrior, part witch. And I just personally am cool with a person who, you know, I'm suspended my disbelief is part warrior, part witch, can sneak up on him. And I think in terms of the Night King, I mean, you've got to understand that his whole army is just him. Right? He raises them. All right. We're almost to 20 minutes,

so I'm going to pause for one second. If you have fast-forwarded for 20 minutes and you are coming back in now, we are still talking about the night... We're deep in it. We're going to keep going, let's say, for 15 more minutes. Damn, this whole episode's going to be Game of Thrones.

But what I'm saying is... Well, how could it not be? What I'm saying is, the Knight King's whole army is just him. They're just zombies. He can see things. through them, he raised them. So their awareness

is almost entirely his awareness. And Bron kept him distracted, I think, on purpose. Bram? I mean, yeah, whatever. I've seen this theory that basically like, they're all a hive mind of the Night King, and he had reached the point where he basically

had issued the order to all of them stand down. I'm going to kill this. Yeah, and, but like, I don't know. That don't check out either, because out in the, out in the courtyard, The fucking dragon didn't stand down. The other zombies out there. He did, actually.

When Aria, no, he didn't. He popped up to blast John. It took what? That was actually one of my biggest things. It was like, what is he winding up for? Well, maybe he was standing down. A, B, he has proven that he can send ones one way and one another. I mean, my man's is capable of more than one thought at a time.

My only point is, in that moment, the Night King, who is controlling all these whites, was completely focused on one. thing. The fact that a witch warrior could sneak up on him who's been training for it for years, I'm beyond cool with that. Okay. I mean, I still, I just think it was, I think there was better ways they could have gone about it. I'm okay with it being ARIA, but again, the way they did it didn't particularly hit for me, but that, whatever, different subject. Brand, like, what, what was he doing? Well, he's, first of all, he'd crippled. So, you know, he's just chilling in his chair. But remember early in the, in the show, he would war,

into his dire. He can war again to animals and also simple humans like Hodor. Could he, like, it hasn't shown

if it's possible or not. Could he war again to like a cross giant or something or a zombie drag? He can war again. I don't think he can warging to a zombie

maybe not. But Ghost was still out there. There was like, and we're going to ghost and do what though? I don't know. Tear shit up. Do something.

But ghosts was tearing shit up. I guess, theoretically. That's another problem I have with it. They show ghosts. You know why they did that? Money. Yeah.

I read a thing where, like, it's so expensive to make ghosts look good. Yeah, I've always heard that, too. You know how much money they spent on that episode? $11 fucking million. They probably could have done a little bit more. But Brand. Yeah, I see, no, I'm just, hold on, just on that point, real quick. I think the total opposite.

If you're already spending $11 million and it's going to cost you a million more to show a dog fighting for a minute, I can see someone at HBO going, nah, fuck y'all. Me too. Yeah, I guess you're right. But Brand, I don't know. he just He's very What would he's very

He's What would the wheelchair boy You know Having seizures talking to the Ravens What would he have done different? What did he do? And now this one They may still explain this

In a future episode So I'll like Back off When the Crows went And found the Night King Yeah was that him Just like luring the Night King To him?

I think so And he was luring The Night King to him And trying to show Denarius and John where he was He was flying above the storm hiding. And so, A, he got him to move in closer.

And B, he might have somehow, you know, lighted the way with the birds. Yeah, that's possible. It just like, the whole time with him, he's like a very powerful being at this point. And the whole time it seemed to me like the show just doesn't know exactly like what to, because that was all set. That was his path like from the books. Like, that was the thing they didn't really have a choice in. he was going to become this thing or whatever, and I've just felt all time, like, they don't really know what to do with this, with this.

He's just knowledge, though. This, like, wizard. He is very powerful, but he's just knowledge. But remember, they've shown, they've demonstrated that he can go back in time and, like, war again, to people in the past and affect the future and stuff, and he can, again, control animals and certain humans. Like, he could do a lot of shit. He's like a ex-man.

He's like a superhero type of character. And they just had him sit there and just be weird as fuck the whole time. Going into the past, that's like, that's dangerous, first of all, in terms of if, you know, you're changing the future. You don't know how it's going to turn out. And I don't feel like he feels that that's his role. As he's gotten more and more in tune with being the three-eyed raven, I mean, he realizes that ain't his job to change the future. He's just, he's just the memory of man. A, B, again, with the animal thing, what would he have, you want him to just turn into a donkey and start biting zombies?

Like, I don't know what my boy would have done. Because the only badass animal in this whole thing, Ghost, was already tearing people up. Now, turn it into the Ravens, and lighten up the way and luring the Night King in. I mean, to me, that was the smartest play. Because he's never, you're right, he's gone into the past before. But every time the Night King's almost gotten him, both when he was warging and when, you know, like when they were really after him and when he was with the children of the forest, I mean, he had to rely on other people. And they died trying to save him. I mean, he's always been a little bit, you know, like you, just laying around,

letting other people do the dirty work. That is all, as it may be, my main thing with the episode overall was all the different examples of insurmountable odds that are then surmounted. But you don't even really, over and over again. And you never really show how or why they just, they just, surmounted those odds. That's why I said it was a Marvel movie episode. You just didn't... Yeah, but in Marvel

movies they're all fucking superheroes with powers and shit. Gendry and Pod and fucking Sam. Sam. Sam is the most egregious example. And my thing about Sam is, it's not that he didn't die. Why the fuck wasn't he in the crypt? I think with Sam, why the fuck

wasn't he in the what? Joe? The crypt, because the whole point of the crypt was like, you know, a various down there and they're like, this is for people who literally can't do anything. Sam can't fucking do anything and he proved it by just running away the entire time and getting Ed killed and fucking all that shit. He didn't

even attempt to fight, so why did he want to be out there? He killed a few people, but I mean, I think that was ego and pride. And I, you know, I think as far as the story goes, I mean, you know, you're a man with a family. You've been this way your whole life. His father thought he was a coward and, you know, send him away to

the wall on purpose. Like, I think that was just his own personal thing. I think when he walked up there by Ed and Ed, who told him, you're worthless, don't be here. And then Ed goes, about fucking time. Like, I think that was meant to be, and you don't have to like this, but I think as a story that was meant to be Sam sort of being like, I'd rather die fighting than have to live on myself as a coward.

Then he should have died. Then he should have fucking died then. That's what I was about to say. I think that checks out. That's fair. That checks out. But that's an example of what I'm saying with the whole episode. That's fine.

But if you're going to put him out there, you've got to have the balls to kill him off. because there's no way he would have survived it. And I feel that way about all those characters. I agree with that. You don't have to have them out in the... And they don't all have to... Right. ...and they don't all have to die, but somebody should have.

Now, again, Jora and Theon did. But arguably, Jora died... I mean, the way they showed it, there were few zombies left because they were way out in the back of the battle. And Theon, like I said, he had to die when he died, but he fought the least.

What I'm saying is, you guys are right, because those characters were fighting the most zombies. and made it. The whole time. They were on the front lines, all of them, on the very front lines when a literal wave of undead crashed on them

and then ended up making it all the way to the end, fighting off a horde of zombies the entire time. Now, I'll say... I'll say one more time, as all zombie genres have done, this one has not gone away from this,

they're very bad fighters, the zombies. Sure. I mean, you know, they win in numbers. But exactly. That's the thing. They don't stop coming.

You know, they overwhelm you. My biggest plot hole, and maybe I'm wrong about the angle or what it is I think I saw, when Milsandra had to light up the moat or the wall or whatever. The trench, yeah. The trench. John was just watching. On a dragon. On a dragon.

It breeze fire. I know. Yeah. And I'm fine with using her and making her show her importance. Put him somewhere else. Why is he watching? Right. What is happening right there?

Well, speaking of the dragons, when Danny swoops down on Drogon to, like, save John. But then John's like, I got to go get Brandon. He runs off. That's fine. I get why she landed. But then they basically just sit there and allow a horde of zombies to overtake them on the ground. I think that was bad editing or bad shots. Fly away.

I think that was like bad. Fly away and roast them, motherful. That was like that was not bad. That was poor execution of the idea being, you know, she came down to save John and then just couldn't. And it almost cost. Yeah, right. But yeah, the way they, the way it was shown, it looked like, like I said, they basically just sat there and allowed it to happen, you know. But again, I was entertained the whole time. I had a lot of fun watching it. It's one of my, it might be my all-time favorite television show. I'm a huge favorite episode. I was like, no, no, no. All-time favorite television show. I just like, but there, but I mean, it was just a lot. The show has gone like full on popcorn is what I'm saying. And it hasn't always. been that way. But that's our popcorn shit hits. Well, a lot of that has to do with the source

material running out. I think that's the number one thing. Yeah, I know, because you have this source material that is literally a cultural phenomenon, and then it goes away, and then you have two television writers who are accomplished television writers who don't have to stay true to anything. Right. And they stay true to their own training or, you know, sensibilities. Even if you're great, I 100% think that that's exactly what has happened with the show, which again, still very entertaining, still hits. I feel like probably we should move on, but I think something we can all agree on. Well, Cho, we need to let you chime in. No, I mean, I agree with everything that was just said pretty much on, I mean, I disagree with you on a couple of those things, but I've said that.

But I've seen the episode because I'm insane four times now. and it you know every on every single rewatch all of my everything that I thought the first time I watched it in terms of plot holes

and like unbelievably held true but also what held true was there was a shit ton of huge moments in the episode and it was a different

type of Game of Thrones that I'm used to but ultimately it's still hit for me and as we've said before I'm such a goddamn huge fanboy of everything that I like so A I'll let it go and be

They've done so much for me that, you know, they're due a couple fuck-ups. So it's whatever. Yeah. That's right. Again, I still love it all overall. So you give your just like quick wrap up then of things you liked and then if you left out anything you didn't like. The only other thing I didn't like that I haven't mentioned already, I think, was the whole deal in the Crips I also thought was odd. Like, there's been a lot of speculation.

Oh, they're in the Crips. All the Dead Starks are down there. They're going to rise up and it's going to be wild. That did happen. But again, not one significant character died. And none of them held them all. You know what I mean? Tyrion didn't have some big moment.

Like, I don't know. It just seemed all kind of like pointless ultimately. The way that Tyrion and Sansa moment they showed. I like that. That was so weird to me. I was fine with it. It felt like they were building up to some like big thing. It's like, what are they about to do?

They're about to Romeo and Juliet this shit? Or they about to go out there and make a stand together or whatever? And then it kind of just. They started to. They started to, and apparently, I read on the internet, apparently they did do that, but they had to cut that scene for like time. That is what they were doing. They rolled out, they killed a couple of them, protected the others. They filmed that and then cut it according to the internet.

I don't know if that's true. But it makes sense to me because it definitely seems. That makes me mad. I know what's what I'm saying. But just leave it in. What the fuck is another minute? Right. I agree.

But the thing is it was 82 minutes on. Make it fucking 90. Nobody gives a shit. HBO would have been fine with it. Make it 85. But all the, the things. things that hit for me? I mean, yeah, just all the super rad shit that happened. All the, like, I thought the dragons were rocking shit the whole time.

The Dead Dragon at the end with John where it had, like, holes in its throat. So, like, blue fire was just sort of popping out of it. That looked fucking so sweet. That was you after the surgery. Yeah, it was. The Dothraki charge, again, didn't think it made any goddamn sense, but it was fucking super cool looking. And effective. Anyway, we can move on.

Well, let me do mine. One thing that I've left out. First of all, I loved area's whole story arc, as I've said. One thing that I haven't talked about, I like how she lost faith in herself and then gained it back. Yeah, I like that a lot, too. I thought that was sweet. And I liked Clegan, Clegan. I like the hounds roll in that.

That was all so sweet. And I don't know how I feel about, what's the other guy that was with him? Baric Dundarion. I don't know how I feel about Barrick. Did you see him as Jesus? Because he's died and come back a few times. I feel about that. Bit on the nose.

One thing I don't like that the showrunners are clearly doing in my mind. When Sonsa says to Tyrion, the bravest thing we can do is face the truth, we can't help.

I liked that line. I despite, here's what's happening in my opinion. These writers think that the way George R. Martin treats Tyrion is wrong.

And every since he's left the show in terms of his control and we've left the source material, We've been talking about it for a while. Tyrion hasn't hit as hard. He's gone off a cliff. And I'm not completely against that, but they've completely overdone it.

That whole scene and that line and all that. We get it. You think George R. Martin made this imp an unbelievable character. I still think they're going to give him some big dorks. I hope. I know. Some big moment in the, you know, some big redemptive moment where he uses his brain and saves the day because in the final battle. I hope that happens.

Yeah, as I think D.B. Y is another guy. They think that the imp represents them, you know, like nerds who don't know how to do stuff physically. And they hate themselves and they're writing that in there. And they need to go to therapy and fucking quit doing that shit. That's how I feel about it. We're 20 seconds away. So we can, yeah, I think we can do it. Well, I mean, what are we going to, where are we at on time?

Where are we? We are. We only got about 10 minutes. 55 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what to talk about.

for five minutes after that. I hope the alarm's about to go off. All right, there we go. If you've just joined us, you have probably figured out that A, we are done talking about Game of Thrones, but B, this was a whole episode. So if you were skipping ahead

hoping from some more of that good, good content, but you don't want to hear Game of Thrones spoilers, now here's the Game of Thrones twist for you. You're not going to get in it. I can't believe that it wasn't easy to see. succinctly wrap up our thoughts on one of the biggest episodes in television history. I do have a quick don't-hit story about the Ravens, not the Game of Thrones Ravens, the well-read Ravens.

Okay. Okay. So I've been... I'm surprised they've had any time to deal with you with the fucking guntlet they've put me through over the past week or whatever. Well, you want to tell us about that? Is it just the sickness? Yeah, pretty, well, so, yes. This is just an entertaining form.

How the sickness has affected the, of the, the sickness has affected the, other shit that I've supposed to have been doing or had going on. This is just an entertaining form of the Ravens. This is in no way actually. Like that's sad or bad. Let's have it. Last night I went to the comedy store and was hanging out. Our friend Carmen, who was on the podcast, what, three episodes ago, Carmen Marales?

Something like that, yeah. She works there. She was going to do a set. I wanted to watch. Plus, I've always been curious about their Monday show because it's like kind of a half, open mic, half bring them up style show. So I went to check that out. It was pretty cool.

Jim Gaffigan dropped in. I don't want to give away too much. But, you know, because I'm sure he's trying to work on it for a TV spot and or a Netflix special. But he has a joke about the map of Canada that just fucking blown away. And it's not done. It's not ready. It didn't get that many laughs. But as a comic, I was set with my friend James, who was out here doing warm up for that new show on NBC.

And we were just blown away by it. So we're hanging out. I am on, I'm living clean, smoking a little weed every once in a while and obviously having coffee and that's it. For a while, we got a run coming up where after Orlando I'm going to a bachelor party in Key West and then I'm flying straight to New York early for our New York week. And I know how that's going to be. And also I just needed to get my life together. Yeah. So we're hanging out of the store.

James starts drinking. This Australian comic comes up to him. He was at the taping of the NBC show. he saw James do warm-up for, I'm talking about James Matter and give him a follow. He saw James doing warm-up for that NBC show and was like, oh, you know, I can't do an Aussie accent very well. But he was just like, oh, buddy.

Craig? Craig. No, his name is Rory. Okay. So we're hanging out with Rory. Roy comes up. He's like, you did good. We were like, oh, what's up, man? He's like, oh, I'm just in town.

I'm friends with Tame and Paula. They invited me out for Coachella. So this dude is just tight with Tame and Pala. I started talking to him about Pond, who's one of my favorite live band. who's like a breakoff of Tame Impala. He's like, you know, you want me to roll a joint? Let's smoke it.

I'm like, sure, I'll do that, you know. He invites his other friend who's this like comedy magician, but James, I know how that sounds, but James says he's great. Like, he was on the show. He invites him out. All these comics start coming up because they know James. It wasn't like Joe Rogan, but it's like cool people, and I won't name names because the story's about to get gnarly. Long story short, this fucking Ozzy kid.

has mad drugs because he just came from Coachella and all his friends were like, here, I can't take this on the plane with me. You're going to be in L.A. for five or six more days. Comics that our fans might not have heard of, but you guys start buying shots. I am sober stone, but like not drinking or doing drugs right now, hard drugs,

watching what could have been one of the fucking coolest nights of my life. And at first I was like, no, no. And you know how you get on a, like, a train of like, well, I'm not going to break it. Now, you know what I mean? Like, it's fucking 1130 and I got to drive home and then you're there for 30 more minutes and you're like, I really wish I would have done it 30 minutes ago because now it's getting super cool.

It was like the should have hung out, man, joke. Except I was there. You should have done drugs, man. Right before you started, right after you started to be sober, fucking this girl came up and got her tits out and people were doing coke off of them at the comedy store. That's why I, and like, what you do is the better thing to do. But what you just said is exactly why I always, when I'm in that situation, just fucking dip. Leave.

Because I know that I won't stay strong. I'll end up waiting to 1.30 in the morning and then giving in or whatever. And just to avoid all that, I'll just fucking leave as soon as that starts to happen. But that ain't what you should do. Like you hanging out and being there is better. I was begging James to leave. I promised him I would get a ride and me and him wanted to go eat. And I finally got him to leave.

And we left relatively early. And he was fine with it. And he wasn't even like telling me no. He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, baby. Let me just finish this beer, baby. And it just, he had one of those giant, arrogant bastardales. Yeah. And it was a struggle.

And the other thing that sucked and is so raven is because I was the mostly sober one, all the lame people that no one really wanted to talk to kept trickling towards me. And I was too stoned to pretend to be interested in their fucking stories. It was like, it was like fans and fan girls. No offense to our fans. You guys are super interested. But everybody was like partying and like telling us. stories and I'm trying to be interested in it.

And then I just got some Australian girl who's like, so I've never had this kind of beer before. And I'm like, I don't give a shit about that. You're not interesting just because you're from a different fucking country right now. Do you know who that is right? You know what I mean? So I was fanboying. That part was cool.

All right. Well, that's it. I'm great to stay strong, buddy. I wouldn't have. I'd be dead right now. I know. I'm genuinely impressed by that part of it. I think you should take at least a little bit of pride in that aspect. That ain't easy to do. Buddy, I got plenty of that.

And I now know that I'm definitely going to make it until Key West, unless something horrendous happens. Knock on Woods. Just tempted the Ravens. Thou shalt not tempt for thy Ravens. I, too, am living semi-clean, doing a decent job of it because I know that I've got Las Vegas and I

have Starcasts coming up with our Deadby to podcast, Conrad Thompson, and I'm going to go off the fucking rails. Oh, James was the first comic to do warm-up for them. He knows Conrad. We were sending Conrad pictures and stuff last night. At the end of the night, at the end of the night, I let James out. We had been to in and out.

You know, I was stoned. He was real fucked up. He goes, baby. And I go, yeah, he goes, this week. And I was like, yeah, because I've been hanging out with him on and off all week. He goes, we did it for Conrad. And he just slammed the door and walked away. So it's awesome that he knows Conrad because your impression of him sounds like Dusty Rhodes.

I know. And that's because he has admitted that he copped some of that early in his career. I love it. He's let a lot of that go. But I'll never forget it. You know what I mean? Because I've known James now for probably three or four years. All right, well.

I don't think James will listen, but in case he does, especially if I tag him in it, I feel bad because he does not impersonate Dusty Rhodes, but like once a day when I hang out with him. And then that's the only part I do. If he does, I think it's amazing. That wasn't a diss at all. All right, well, let's go. Yeah. Scoo!

All right, thank y'all for listed. See you next time. Scooo! Oh, yeah. Scoo. Thank you all for listening to the Well Red podcast. It once worked good, but now it is. Haters can eat our ass.