wellRED podcast - #121 - Be Nice and Mind Your F****ng Business w/ Vancie Vega!
Episode Date: June 12, 2019This week the boys welcome Professional Dolly Parton Impersonator the SUPREMELY talented and hilarious Vancie Vega! We let Vancie Educate us on what it was like to grow up Trans in a very religious f...amily in rural Texas Before that the boys discuss Justin Bieber and Tom Cruise and who would win in that fight shout out to https://www.queerappalachia.com our sponsors this week are the good people of bluechew.com : use promo code RED to get your first shipment for FREE (just pay 5 dollars shipping) links for Vancie Vega:https://specialguestapp.com/profile/vancie-vegahttps://monikermgmt.com/talent/vancie-vega/https://www.instagram.com/vancievegan/?hl=en wellredcomedy.com for tickets to our shows and our book and our album!
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This week on the podcast, we have a special guest. It starts out with me and the boys discussing Justin Bieber and Tom Cruise and who would who's ass.
then about 25 minutes in.
We are joined by Vancey Vega,
and we would like to shout out to the fine folks at Queer Appalachia over on Instagram
who reached out to Drew and said, hey, you know, for Pride Week, guys,
you really should probably have some members of the LGBTQ community on your podcast.
And we were like, yeah, you're goddamn right, we should.
And we did our best to, because look, we get it, we're three white dudes.
And we have a podcast, because of course we do, we're three white dudes.
they just give you one.
We did our best to, we don't want to seem like we are using Pride Week to exploit and get our numbers up on the podcast.
So we tried to just keep our mouth shut and let Vancey take over and tell her story about growing up as a member of the trans community in Texas.
So please listen to the podcast and holler at Vancy over on Instagram, Vancey.
Nancy Vegan on Instagram and all sorts of stuff that I'll have tagged in the description of this podcast.
But once again, shout out to Queer Appalachia for throwing that to Drew.
And shout out to everyone who reached out to us.
And this is a great episode.
And I'll let I'll let Vancey do all the talking.
So anyways, here we go.
Skiw.
Well, well.
All three here.
We're at our studio in Burbank at the wonderful illustrious Starburn Industries.
No, he hasn't.
No, I've never been here.
He's never been here before.
He's always joined us remotely.
This actually feels weird.
Like I keep...
He normally joins us from a tree stand or something.
I keep looking at y'all and then looking over expecting to see somebody else here
because this feels too professional for it just to be us.
You know what I mean?
Like usually when we got headphones and mic stands, there's somebody there about to ask us stuff.
Usually the same stuff.
Well, unfortunately, producer Bryce.
Rest and rest in peace.
And he'll never get him again.
Oh, man.
I'll pour one out for him at Bonnarroo this week.
I wanted to segue into that naturally, and Bryce was fun at Bonarue.
I mean, he's fun everywhere, but he was a lot of fun at Bonar.
What I love about Bryce at Bonaroo is that, like, or what I loved about him again, rest of face.
He was always, he's not, Bryce ain't really, he ain't, he don't fuck with drugs.
He's very suburban white guy.
IPAs, that's the strong as he gets.
He loves to drink.
He loves to drink, but like.
We're getting wild tonight, getting one of them strong beers, boys.
But like he, without drugs and just beer, too, he's not really on.
like whiskey and shit. No hard liquor, no weed.
Which we don't count as drugs for some reason.
Without any of that, other than just beers, that motherfucker will go all day and until
daylight. He'll go every show, he'll, and he hangs. And like, I've always, I'll be
there like half dead at three in the morning, just looking at him. I'm like, how are you?
And of course, some of that is probably because of the absence of drugs.
It's almost as if the health. Yeah. Yeah, right. When it comes to day two, he's actually
in a better position.
Yeah, probably.
You're right.
But, you know.
He's good on day three, though.
He's something else, man.
He can hang, man.
And hangovers are about as bad as drug hangovers at Bonner.
Yeah, because that, when we were.
Oh, God, yeah, man.
Oh, dude.
There ain't no worst place to be hungover until you start, you know, doing drugs and boozing again.
No, it's the, I mean.
You're going to come down again.
I don't know.
That's why by the end of it.
Right.
The last Bonner I went to, no bullshit whatsoever.
It took me seven whole days to get completely over it.
We should rewrite Sunday morning coming down, but just about Bonnaroo.
Like how you just, you can't feel yourself and some idiot in a squirrel outfits,
puking in a porta potty.
Yeah, that was one of my favorite.
That was one of my favorite experiences with seeing, I told you about that, didn't I?
Yeah.
That's a fucking squirrel boy.
I woke up one morning.
It was a Sunday morning at Bonaroo feeling like shit had to go take a shit or whatever,
like seven in the morning, 7.30 maybe.
And I'm walking at the porta potties and there's like three girls,
probably 19-year-old girls who were on the back of this, like, flatbed trailer
that I guess it had some kind of equipment on at one point, but now it's just sitting there.
They're on the back of it jumping around and acting like chimpanzees to nobody.
There's something like, just fucking just to themselves and to each other.
That might have been one of the acts.
That's another problem.
That was the what the fuck stage.
That's another problem about Bonnero is that you didn't have a choice but to get up at 7 o'clock in the morning.
No, right.
Like when the sun, if you're in a tent, which I've only ever been in a tent.
is RV for your boy.
You got RV?
Yeah.
Nice.
We'll see.
How?
Who?
Brian, son.
Brian went from I ain't going to Bonaroo to he bought an RV for Bonarroo.
My man.
Well, last time me and you went, I decided because, yeah, every day I woke up, just
sweating my ass off at 7.
And it didn't matter that I just went to bed at 5.
No.
You can't sleep.
I was like, look, I love it here.
This is great.
And no, I don't have necessarily the type of money just to be throwing around on
RVs, but I'm never coming back here unless. We're too old for that shit. No, I can't do it.
But if I get an RV with some air conditioning and a toilet, because I didn't take a shit the
whole time I was there either. Now, part of that. The secret to that is you got to do it at like
seven in a morning. As soon as you wake up, even if you don't have to shit, you got to make yourself
shit because that's when they clean the porta-pies. Part of it was I literally didn't have to
because I didn't hardly eat nothing because I was so fucked up the whole time. Like, dude,
I, man, I took so much goddamn acid and ecstasy and shit like that. Like, you don't eat on
that stuff. But then like when I kind of did have to take a shit, I was on them drugs and I was like
super paranoid about going to the porta potty and shit. And I just didn't, I took a huge shit when I got
home though, believe. Everything's going to be different this year and I'm pumped about it. I'm
going to be an RV. I'm performing. I got, uh, they gave his guest passes, not artist passes,
which is slightly different. Guest passes are different every year. I don't know what all the deal is.
I guess we don't hit enough as comedians, but, uh, I mean, clearly not. They've fucking, I mean,
any all comedians don't hit for them is what I mean yeah especially us but I'm pumped about me and
you ain't going to be clear to everybody right yeah I'm pumped yeah I'm excited you should be
and Jake James is going to let me do we're doing radio morning radio bonneroo Friday morning so I mean
only you know only eight people are going to be listening but they're all going to be on drugs but yeah but
but those eight people are going to have the time of their lives if you ain't listening to anything jake james does
you should you are doing two music festivals
Back-to-back weekends.
Back-to-back weekends.
Lord God, son.
I know.
I'm going to die.
How's that sobriety?
Oh, it's been over.
I mean, he said, in fairness to him, his whole thing was that was he was doing 30-day sober because he had a wild months coming up.
Key West, New York, weekend in Columbia, Missouri that we just did where I stayed sober.
I had one beer.
Bottaroo, Tell Your Ride.
Those are the five weekends in a row.
Then we go to Huntsville.
Yeah, which is always, you know, I mean.
it's not like that's the biggest party we throw,
but it's always pretty fun.
They've got a nice house there,
and I know Daryl's going to be coming, so.
I know.
We've got two nights there,
and then Bermanham,
yeah, I'm going to die.
I'm going to die.
But I'm going to die having played Bonneroo.
You almost said happy,
and you switched real quick,
didn't you?
Yeah, yeah.
Because I had to think about,
this is just a fleeting feeling.
Always.
Uh-huh.
Just because I don't,
we've got a guest coming at the top of the hour here.
I hope.
I haven't heard from him.
We had two guests coming.
One of them unfortunately got into a fender bender.
They're okay.
I'm checking my emails.
Oh, there was.
Yep.
They're going to be here at $4.50.
Cool.
Yeah, we're good.
Okay.
But anyway, so in light of that, I'd like to go ahead and get into it here.
Yeah.
Drew don't know shit.
I agree.
Go ahead.
The news, the biggest news story rocking the world right now,
sweeping the nation, I guess, or at least on Twitter, is Justin Bieber wants to fight Tom Cruise
for some reason? He put out a tweet. I saw the tweet, but like, is that literally the whole thing?
Yeah. That came out of nowhere as far as you know. No, I mean, that's the first thing I saw.
I'm certain that something happened, but I don't know if, like, something public happened or
like Justin Bieber was just fucked up at his house and saw Top Gun and was like, no, don't hit,
you know, and like, I'm going to fight him. So I don't know, man.
I challenged Tom Cruise to a fight in the octagon and also tagged Dana White in it to like set it up or whatever.
And obviously this is never going to happen.
It's got a lot of people weighing in.
And Drew is team Bieber over here.
And that's why I say he don't know shit.
Drew's also, he's just been on one as far as that goes because not only does he team babyer, but he's on there talking about how like he, he, he, drew would smoke Tom Cruise.
In a race.
That was in a foot race.
And I disagree with that.
Have you watched a motherfucker.
A movie.
A movie.
That's what we're talking about.
of the movie.
He does all of his own stunts, though, and always has.
He's in better shape than his head.
This is hilarious.
It's hilarious?
Tom Cruise is like 5'4.
Corey could beat him in a race.
I could beat you in a race, though.
I could beat you in a foot race, though.
Jesus Christ.
That is a tiny man running on film, literally on film.
Guys, it's a movie.
Look, to be honest.
Warwick Dunn was like 5'6.
What does that matter?
No, he was 5'8, and that's Warwick fucking Dunn.
Put him on film and see what it looks.
This is Tom, fucking Cruz.
I think Tom Cruise, like, has his contract that he has.
to run in every movie because of how
Hardy hits it running.
That's him and Tom Hanks has the piss thing.
Yeah, sure.
But we've known our whole lives about the way
men work, especially ones who are popular
or famous, is that the thing that they make it a
point to seem like they're good at is definitely
the things that they're good at. Yeah, you guys are right.
You can tell by watching him. Look at it.
Like, watch him run.
Watch him run on a movie.
But he's doing,
that's the whole thing that Tom Bruce is that
he's not unathletic. I'm not trying to suggest he's not
athletic.
am saying factually he's five fucking six and he's 56 years old he probably runs the 40 in a
five six i will smoke him i'll give him three yards which would fit inside his giant fucking
yard i know he's rich in the man let's set it up call time i said it up i just don't believe it
i don't like it doesn't matter what you believe you're wrong you don't know that i do know that
you have no way of knowing that he would have to like aren't you five ten i'm five ten five nine and
three quarters and that counts as five ten i'm five nine and three quarters and that counts
That's five kinds of lies.
That's true.
Thank you, Corey.
I'm 5.11 and like a quarter.
That's about right.
Yeah.
I think I am.
Listen, if you're 5.9 and 3 quarters and you can't round up, I will accept that.
But I'm saying that's how tall I am without my shoes on.
Five nine and three quarters.
Now, that aside, I'm going to regret this.
I know what you're doing.
You're baiting me in this talking about facts.
And then y'all are going to be like,
just all he talks about is his fucking career and back in the day.
And he's a goddamn has been.
Just talking about how he used to play football and all this stuff.
bullshit. I know what you're doing.
I wasn't doing that at all.
I'm really fast.
I'm a fucking fast person.
And unless he's a super duper fast person, which we have no reason to believe,
a five, six white man ain't going to outrun me when he's 56 years old in a sprint.
It's just statistically unlikely.
And y'all's whole evidence is a movie.
A fucking movie.
It's not 35 years worth of movies and stories about how much of a fucking freak he
is in every regard.
That dude, he's wild, man.
Your ankle is liable to snap five yards into the hundred yard dash there.
I was about to say, you got bum ankles.
I don't have bum ankles.
I heard my ankle playing fucking basketball.
He's a fucking alien.
That's true.
Let's go outside right now and time me.
Also, we're getting away from...
Let me go let our guest in.
They're going to chill in the lobby, but they're here.
Okay.
Well, yeah, because I wanted to get...
I didn't get into Bieber.
Yeah.
I'm going to be back.
Okay.
That was, yeah, that was the whole thing for me.
he don't hit.
He don't hit.
There's no goddamn way.
And I want to save a lot of this stuff
because I don't want to say it
while he's not in the room.
But, dude, like,
I'm not even trying to be a dick here.
No, me neither.
Tom, no, I'm with you.
Like, I don't, I'm not just,
I'm not trying to just bake Drew or Egg Drew on.
I'm not saying that if Drew,
I believe this.
If Drew was in the shape that Tom Cruise was in,
I think that Drew maybe naturally is maybe a better
athlete or something like that than Tom Cruise.
But like, his 56
is way better than my 31.
Without a doubt.
Now, granted.
Now, granted.
He's in better shape than you or I, but still.
But hey, not as much as he used to be.
No, right.
Of course.
And Tom Cruise is just,
he's a fucking alien.
Yeah.
He's an insane shape.
What's wrong?
He would levitate half the way.
Yeah.
And smoke you.
Now y'all are saying,
Scientology is real.
That shows two arguments
is that Scientology and
Blockbuster movies are real.
Now, look,
Tom Cruise and his,
and this,
we can use this,
we can go and get back
into the whole Bieber part of it too,
because like,
Tom Cruise in his last
Mission Impossible movie,
I saw this whole thing
about how, like,
there's this big helicopter
sequence at the end of it,
and he'd never flown a helicopter
before and just learned how to fly a helicopter
to do that.
And he was not only flying a helicopter,
but was doing
it, doing all this wild shit
in it, and like the helicopter guy that
they got to teach him was talking about how, like,
it was insane, he didn't know anybody
could, and that's a helicopter. He's
sitting down and doing it. But he does that for
everything for all of his movies, and he's been whipping
people's asses in movies for 35 years.
You don't think he, like, genuinely picked any
of that up? I guarantee you he's got some
moves, man. Absolutely. We're talking about
Bieber now. Yeah, which is not on you.
He also runs like a motherfucker
in every movie, too. He runs like shit.
No, he don't. Oh, my God.
I'm sure people look fast.
All of them.
All of us.
I'll own being sure.
I will smoke him.
But that aside, I hear what you're saying, but let me say two things about that.
Number one, he is getting old.
Number two, you're talking about these stories.
This is a man who used to make Katie Holmes before she finally got out from underneath him.
And the church of Scientology, where the fuck it is, would help him make her.
Go on fucking vacations and smile and pretend to be happy.
You think he ain't telling that guy who taught him out of fucking.
fly a helicopter. He ain't paying him a little
extra to spread these fucking stories around
because he's insane. See, I know
that this is what it was. From where I'm from, controlling men
can usually whop ass too. I was about
to say, now, to be clear, and I texted
y'all this earlier, and I didn't know if I should do it at the beginning,
but since y'all got me so fucking heated about how
I'm going to smoke Tom Cruise in a race, I'll go ahead and say
this up front. Tom Cruise would beat the shit out of
Justin Bieber. Like, he definitely
would. I know that, and the reason why, he's
insane. But it ain't going to be
it's going to be much closer than y'all
are letting on. No. It, no.
hell not.
Like, dude, he would fucking,
Bieber wouldn't even get a punch in.
Tom Cruise just don't hit for you.
And like,
he don't,
he don't hit for me,
like as a per,
he's clearly a lunatic, yeah,
but like,
you just like,
he just don't hit for you.
And so you just,
he don't hit for me as a person.
You're coming about,
but you're saying,
but of course he's going to spread
all these rumors around.
I'm saying,
dude,
watch,
I've actually been on big Tom Cruise
kick lately,
watching a bunch of his movies.
Yeah,
as you get more and more successful,
you are going further and further down
this LA rabbit hole tray.
You'll be assigned
The whole world loves Tom Cruise's movies.
I will defend Drew.
If I may defend Drew here for a second,
let's not act like he fucking loves Justin Bieber.
You know what I'm saying?
Like in this thing,
like it's not like,
Tom Cruise don't hit for him,
but like there's no way Bieber don't equally not hit for him.
He's Canadian and they can fight.
Yeah, but Tom.
Yeah, but he different.
All that shit about like those people just spread those stories
because he wants them to or whatever.
I'm sure that like he does want him to.
But again, like,
you can see him.
him doing the shit.
That's what makes his stunt so good is because he does it.
In Last Mission Impossible, too, he breaks his ankle on the jump he took.
He did this stunt jump and broke his ankle.
And they had to pause filming and stuff for a few weeks.
I didn't break my ankle yesterday.
You almost did.
Just twisted.
Not jumping across a goddamn building either.
Playing basketball against young men.
Here's another point for Drew because earlier and I brought this up.
You guys out there, you see it on my Instagram how big my ankle was.
I came back in three weeks.
I'm going to defend Drew again.
Because just a minute ago, I said, yeah, the foot race is not going to work because you got a bum ankle.
By my logic, clearly so does Tom Cruise, because he broke his ankle too.
Well, that was like a year and a half ago or more, two years.
I broke mine a decade and a half ago.
I twisted it.
I'm saying neither of those matter.
Your ankles currently don't hit.
No.
No, I healed.
I'm saying both.
I held it a month.
I'm saying you and Tom Cruise both in your prime, no ankle problems.
He fucking smokes you.
There's no way.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Like, there's not even a story, and if there was, he would be out there spreading it.
Of him, like, running track in high school.
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He's not, guys, he is athletic.
He's not an athlete.
And I want to say one more thing to move the conversation back to the Bieber thing.
Part of the reason I started this, I started shit up on Twitter is everybody's saying Tom Cruise
to destroy him and they're all basing it on movies.
No.
But it's not, you keep saying that, but it's not like, it's not like, it's not like Channing Tatum in movies and stuff.
The whole thing with Tom Cruise is that he actually.
does all of that shit himself.
Instead of stuntmen and stuff doing it for him like everybody else, he actually does it all.
Which is stupid, by the way.
And if he don't know how to do it, he learns how to do it and then does it.
And these aren't just like stories.
That doesn't prove he can fight A and B.
Channettam would whip his ass.
I'm not, yeah, absolutely.
Without a trying to say.
He's a breakdancing lizard person.
Yeah, that's, we ain't.
Chantyton would whip him in Justin Bieber's ass at the same time.
No one's ever deserved to be famous more than Channing Tatum.
Go on.
I love Channing Tatum.
He is a mentally handicapped lizard who can break down.
and has an eight-pack.
If you didn't know who Channing Tatum was,
and I just said,
hey, I got a retarded lizard in here who can break dance.
You'd be like, put him on TV right now.
I will say this.
He's a good actor.
Yeah.
But I'll say this, I wasn't.
Chene Tatum hits.
I think I told you this,
because we're both Coen Files.
I was like,
what, like, everything Channing Tatum had ever been in before this particular
time I saw him,
it was not something that I would ever see.
So I was just like,
oh, he's just one of these, you know,
young girls like him,
whatever.
And then I saw him in Hail Caesar.
And I was like,
Oh shit.
You remember the scene?
Yeah, but...
Yes, but...
That's the first thing I'd ever seen him in, really.
You never watched Stop Loss when that came out?
Or even before that, there was a movie called A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints, which is admittedly obscure.
But I had him and Shia LaBuff and Robert Downey Jr. in it, it's a hidden movie.
Admittedly...
Admittedly, whenever I saw he was in something, I would just think, oh, well, fuck, this is just some shit for my sister.
Right.
Yeah, no, he's legit.
Again...
21 Jump Street?
You hadn't seen them movies?
Yes, but I saw Hell Caesar First.
I know I did this, but let's circle back.
And also, that's a very different thing.
Like, a buddy comedy is a different type.
Like, he's a real, like, I'm not saying that you, that if you're in a buddy comedy,
you're not a good actor, but that's a different type of acting than what he was doing in Hell Caesar.
I mean, he was singing, he was dancing, he was up on tables.
Yeah.
He's like the rock.
He's a fucking talent, man.
He's very rockish.
Yeah.
All right.
I know I did this, but to circle back, first of all, I know Tom Cruise would win because he's crazy.
But I don't think it's as, you know, hands down as everyone acts like it is.
And let me make this argument.
You guys are going to hate this argument.
this.
Justin Bieber can break dancing.
He does all his own dances.
That's all stunts are.
I don't hate that.
Is the type of dance.
At least he's quick.
It's athletic movement designed to look pretty and not hurt yourself.
He also got discovered by Usher, which means his formidable years were spent with black people.
From Atlanta.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's still Tom Cruise.
And he's still Canadian that whole time.
And he's 30 years younger.
And they weigh the same.
I still say Tom Cruise.
Me too.
During one of those movies, and maybe you know the answer to this, he actually learned jujitsu or some kind of MMA shit.
Like if he had played an MMA fighter, I'd be like, well, yeah.
I wouldn't even say I could beat him in a race.
It would still be true, but I would be afraid of him.
Yeah, I don't know, like, his actual, as far as that goes, but, I mean, I know that he, like, famously, like I said, learns how to actually do all this shit he's supposed to be doing.
And he's been fighting in movies for a long time.
I just assume that he like actually, like I said, has some moves.
And yes, is a lunatic and it's just wild as hell.
He's got moves.
He also famously pays people to make up cool shit about him
and worships a fucking alien god,
which that could go either way for me.
But those things, I know what you're saying, and I get that,
but like I just think that those things are harder to,
even if they are like PR-tight,
Shit, they're easier to believe.
They're not just rumors that people are saying because, again, like, in my opinion, like, you can see it.
You can see it when you watch his...
You can see that he knows how to fly a helicopter.
No, I'm saying...
But the whole story is that he learned in a day.
No, I mean, that wasn't that.
It didn't say learned in a day.
I wish I could bottle the look that you just gave.
Yeah.
It was fantastic.
Well, it reminded me of my mother, so never mind it.
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I know.
I hit for your mom.
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Yeah.
How would you like us to introduce you?
Fancy.
Vancy Vega.
I didn't know.
Is Vega or vegan?
Vega.
Well, on my Instagram, it's vegan.
Because, you know, obvious reasons.
You couldn't look like this about being vegan.
I'm just saying.
That's what we keep getting told.
Pass me them taters and cream gravy, right?
Let's come in right there.
Welcome to the podcast.
Hi, everybody.
Vancey Vega.
Vancy Vega.
Thank you for joining us.
Vancey Vega.
Justin Bieber or Tom Cruise, who would win in a fight?
Just top of your head.
Tom Cruise.
Boom.
Easy.
She can say easy.
He could be gay all day long, but he still has skills.
True story.
So, Vancy.
My top.
You're from Galveston, Texas.
Galveston, Texas, yes.
Steers and Queers.
Steers and Queers.
That's what they say.
Well, and then me.
But you live in Los Angeles now.
I do.
I live in Glendora, which is in the San Gabriel Valley.
How long have you been out here?
Two and a half years.
That's about how long I've been out here.
January 4th?
2017.
I moved out of January 9th of 2017.
I literally drove in by myself with a whole car full of stuff and mostly just show clothes.
And I drove straight to San Diego and did my first gig and then went and moved in with my rockster girlfriend in the Hollywood Hills.
Now, real quick, show close.
I tell everybody what kind of shows you do.
I am transgender, but I do drag artistry as a living.
Before I transitioned, I did it as a hobby and a profession.
But then when I transitioned, I was just already so popular and was already doing cruise ships and traveling and all that.
So I just stayed the course.
It's a living.
lifestyle.
So you said cruise ships?
I used to perform for Carnival Cruise.
They would have particular parties that I would work with.
And I would be like a cruise, I don't know, hostess for the parties.
And then I would go and do, I'm a professional Dolly Part and impersonator.
I also do Barbara, Betty Davis Live and a whole slew of people.
That would be a hell of cruise.
So I was going to ask what your show.
show like what your shows like consists of,
but it sounds like they're,
it's different.
It varies depending on what you're actually doing that.
It depends upon the venue and it also depends upon if my agent gets me the gig
or if it's just somebody who DMs me in my Instagram.
I mean,
I'm not greedy.
I slide on a scale if,
like I'm doing a small gig in Pasadena on Thursday.
And it's just a real small venue and they don't have a big budget.
So I'm just going to go in and sing a couple, like live sing a couple of songs.
and then that's, you know, that's what I can offer for that.
No, no, no, no, I don't sing live as Dolly.
I don't have that kind of capability.
Who does?
But I look just like her, so half the battle is there.
No, I saw the picture.
It was tremendous.
It was wild.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I just did a, I did, the Grammy Museum contacted me and asked me to do a marketing campaign
through Weehoe and Beverly Hills for her exhibit opening with all her costumes and
some memorabilia.
It's never been done outside of, outside of Pigeon Forge.
in Dollywood.
So I did that and I dressed us Dolly and went up and down for a whole weekend and took
pictures with everybody and told them all about the exhibit.
And because of that, my partner, Thomas and I got to meet her with the Chase executives.
Just like maybe 20 of us got to take pictures with her.
And then I got to sit in and interview with her and Linda Perry on Billboard Live.
And I didn't see it, but my partner said she kept looking at me.
Every time she'd paused to think she would look over at me and then answer.
And of course, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm dressed as Dolly here with Dolly.
And it was pretty neat.
And I have friends that do documentaries about her.
And they're real good friends with her creative director.
And according to them, I'm her favorite.
That's so awesome.
I can't even imagine getting a compliment like that.
I would never expect her to say it out loud, but, you know.
It's trustworthy.
Drew and I are from East Tennessee over there.
And so Dolly's like, you know,
She's a goddess.
Of course she is.
We dedicated a pretty significant portion of our book to her.
Just talking about, like, growing up in the South.
And, like, her and Pat Summit were sort of like, it's like, sure, there's a lot of gender norms and a lot of bullshit, sexism and misogy.
She's directly neat.
That we learned.
But, you know, those were two women who, like, grown men who are real conservative and redneck and all that will fight you over if you try to say they're not as good as other men.
Of course, of course.
How did you, I'm assuming you've been a, you were a dolly.
fan for a long time before.
How did you land on?
Yes and no.
I mean, funny story, when I was really young, trying to decide who I was.
Yeah.
This lesbian told me, you should do Dolly Parton in the show just for a fluke.
And then it came back now.
I was working in Las Vegas to get your point of view, your question.
And I was doing Madonna in the show, but we were contracted for specific characters in the show.
And Dolly was out on a show.
family emergency so I had to fill in for her and when I got character applause in quotes
it just won me over and then I became like an actual fan and started trying to perfect it and
stuff I'm not a stalker fan like I don't have posters in my wall or anything like that yeah no nothing
it's a profession you don't have nine t-shirts or anything like you do you have nine t-shirts of
darling uh I've got two you got two yeah you have four yeah well I could just see you're in the mirror
quite often, so I don't get to
No, I just thought it was funny that
you said, I'm not a crazy stalker fan,
I don't have posters on a wall, you know, I just
emulate her for a little. Right, right.
Well, there's a different. No, for sure.
Like when I was in Las Vegas, it was, and I was
younger, I was just enthralled
with them, and because it was all
character study, and it was all about them.
But now I'm older, I'm just like, you know,
I'm going to put her in the closet, much like she does
when she's
not on stage.
Okay, all right.
So, all right, you're not only from Texas, which, you know, that would be wild enough probably to some people, but furthermore, your family is like, or at least was hyper religious, correct?
Like crazy, I'm not calling them crazy.
No, I would say lunatics.
No, when you are brainwashed to believe a certain thing, then I would say that is lunatic.
But anyway, I'm with you.
My grandfather was the superintendent of the Texas District of United Pentecostal religion.
So always growing up.
I don't even know.
Is that a job?
Like, that's just a full-time job that he got paid to do.
He had a big office at the camp meeting grounds, and he would travel around.
He had his own plane and couple of states.
Pentecostal is the one trade.
I was saying.
Yeah.
That's the one that even normal, even like run-of-the-mill Christians are like,
or like,
God damn.
Yeah,
it's the essence of religion.
I don't know that totally.
Oh, my God.
People that think,
people that think are crazy.
Yeah.
People that you think are crazy and you're right, look at them and go, well, fuck me.
Yeah.
Okay.
But he had a few cars, a couple houses you said out of it.
Yeah, but I mean, to what end?
It's wrought with misogyny and then.
Oh, it's horrible.
It's awful.
Did you learn to perform from him?
Is that?
Well, no, my mother and my aunts, they traveled with the family, and they were the Holly sisters.
They would perform together, and they had their own record at one time.
And Christianity is a big, big, big market.
No matter what you believe.
That traveling preacher shit, especially if you bring your own singers because you're cutting down on costs right there, and you get them as a package group.
And many times they'll have an RV or a little camper that they'll just hook up over.
to the Sunday school classes.
Do you think as churches get more and more accepting or trying to,
we'll ever have a drag performance?
I bet that's already happened.
It has already happened.
There's a church in Montrose, Houston, which is the LGBT area,
and they do a lot of homeless work and stuff like that,
and they have movie nights, and they'll have, like, fundraising drag shows in the church,
you know, family stuff.
Sure, sure.
And to raise money for stuff like that to help homeless and HIV people and stuff like that.
Um, so folks with HIV.
So you, I'm assuming, grew up like very, you know, conservative religious.
I grew up in a house like that.
Yeah, right.
I did.
How old were you when, when you started to like, you know, think, oh, this might be bullshit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, as soon as they started calling me fag.
Right.
Yeah, that'll do it.
That'll do it.
And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, no, that's not right.
When was that?
Oh, I would say probably.
seven, eight? Oh my God. Jesus Christ. I've been a girl since I could, my mom was like, you used to take towels and put them up in your hair like me when I was little. I was going to ask like what, I don't know how to frame this any other way. Then you don't have to be correct. What at seven years old were you doing to make, first off, I don't give a fuck what you were doing. Nobody should say that. But like what at seven could you, could you be? Well, in Texas, though, the bar. Being a girl. Right, right. Looking like a little boy. But being a girl. Right.
Naturally, not thinking it's wrong.
It's just who I am.
I just feel like I've always felt that's just little boys and girls just all kind of act similar.
They're just kind of.
They kind of prants.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
There's a difference.
I guess I can't remember how old seven is.
Most boys who are actual boys don't go around with their dad's white t-shirt on their head flipping it back and forth like it's their long, blonde luxurine's hair.
I have a six-year-old boy and a seven-year-old boy.
I saw that.
And I just like, I just can't.
Like, if I heard somebody called either one of them a fag.
Oh, my God.
But, see, I could see.
It was really confusing.
I could see Ben throwing a towel over his head and doing some crazy shit.
Yeah, one of them was pretty theatrical.
But now it's okay.
Right.
Oh, yeah, I don't give a shit.
Yeah.
Now it's totally okay back then.
My God, I had to run out of a different exit every fucking day.
Oh, can I say that?
Yeah.
Every down day at high school.
I literally had to change the exit.
So here dropping fag, like, can I say fuck?
It's cock sucker off the table
It's very much on the table
Okay
Under the table
But I mean honestly
It was hell on earth
I guarantee you the hell on her
I'm sorry to make light of it
I was just curious like what the fuck got
I have to cope with that shit
And there's been a lot of amending
And things like that with my family
Oh yeah yeah
That's beautiful
I couldn't get him out of the
Thomas off the horse farm
Because my dad has a horse farm
a rescue farm.
And I couldn't get him off.
And it's just so fun out there.
And they're my biggest fans, truly.
Like, I, at one time, I had, I don't know, four ants and 16 female cousins and my dad
right in the middle of him come to see like a hoe down.
Okay.
Well, that's tremendous.
It was like a country hoad down where he had chicken shit bingo and all that stuff.
Chicken shit bingo.
Yeah, chicken shit bingo.
And my dad had this big old, you know, a felt hat, a brand new felt hat and his good boots on
and his, you know, jacket with an arm thing.
where they call the patches on the wrist.
And he got up when we did islands in the stream together
and raised like $750 for whatever organization.
I'm about to get emotional.
That's great to hear.
I didn't know how that, you know, the current situation is going to be.
It didn't happen like that until he went and addressed his PTSD for Vietnam, honestly.
Oh, yeah.
And then it just changed.
And now it's family reunions.
He's just like, all my girls are fine.
That's very sweet.
How often do you guys do the family reunions?
We just got back from one.
There's one every year from one.
One side of family.
and we've just decided my cousins and I
to do my nanny's family
because there's so many of us.
My dad's mother.
And when those years before the amending,
did you miss that kind of stuff?
I didn't even get to go to my grandmother's funeral.
My dad said,
I understand if you can't come,
which you know.
But it's on his fault.
He was struggling with all that inside of him
he was ignorant to transgender.
He's got all these rednecks and hillbillies in his ear.
I mean, his mother just died.
I get it.
I get it.
So I just kind of housed my hurt until later, and then we addressed it.
You're a kind person.
I'm sure you can tell I don't have an issue saying what's up.
Yeah.
Yeah, my uncle is gay and his, like his parents, my Maimon, Pa,
Maimon, Ma'am's still around, but he passed away when I was eight.
But the deal always was when I was growing up, like with Pah in particular, it was like, you just like didn't talk about it around him.
But he knew about it.
And also my uncle and his partner who he was with like 25 years or something.
And my whole childhood, they were together.
Like they were always there like, you know, birthdays, family reunions, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
Yeah, like, well, like everybody knew the deal.
And like, but my grandpa in particular, you just like, you know, like I said, did.
and talk about it, but he still, like, had him around and all that.
And, you know, and I, because I know a lot of people, we got one buddy who, you know, had the
whole experience of his parents, like, kicked him out of the house, and he was, like, 15 or
something.
He was homeless as a teenager and shit for years.
No, I know.
It happens all the time.
So, like, and that just, I just can't even imagine that type of thing.
Because, again, I have children, and I just can't imagine ever doing something like that over.
that type of thing, but I also, again,
I didn't grow up in the church. I don't have that
brainwashing. I don't know
if I would rather have had the
abuse at home in school or to be kicked
out because ultimately I ended up on the street on drugs
anyway, so. Right. I guess that's a good point.
Yeah. I didn't think about it that way. It's hard to
stay in somewhere where you hated and you're told
every day that you're hated. Yeah, that's why Tray
moved to California too. Okay.
Because nobody likes her. God bless her.
Well, on that note,
You were speaking, I think, specifically about your house, but I mean, I imagine it was beyond your house.
It was also.
It was everywhere.
School and everything.
Yeah, especially in Texas City where it's just real, real white and real, real redneck.
Not so much anymore, but still pretty much.
My house where I live with my dad was like here, point A, and then there was a short field with like a, you know, a subway and a gas station and maybe a Taco Bell.
and then there was my mom's complex.
I literally had, instead of going through the field,
I would have to go up to the freeway or the main drag,
and I would have to walk along the main drag
and then cut over.
And it would take me like 10 extra minutes
to get to my mom's house
because they would wait for me in the field
or behind the building
when I would sneak through the fence and stuff.
I got jumped multiple times
and kids walking around.
And, I mean, of course, more than once I won
because I was fearing for my life,
but it was rough.
It was really rough.
When did you live?
When did I leave Texas City?
I moved in with my mom when I was a sophomore,
and then I quote unquote came out
because I still hadn't discovered what it was.
Right, right.
And it helped a little while.
I mean, I was able to kind of be more of myself and stuff,
but at that time I had already found drugs
and had been sneaking into bars.
By the time I was 15, I was already doing shows.
Where did she live?
She lived in Lamarck, Texas, which is across the tracks.
And was it a bigger city?
It was a smaller city and it was primarily black.
Okay.
Did you feel more or less?
Oh my God.
I was ecstatic.
I was the only little white boy girl.
Like a long table full of black girls.
I didn't have a problem for the first day ever again.
Ever again.
If they didn't kick the girls didn't kick asses for me, they just refrained from pussy.
And then everything fell into place.
I mean, I'm being completely into 100%.
sense serious. They protected me
and those black girls gave me a sense
sorry.
No, that's all right.
They helped me find myself
and strength enough to be
a black woman
which is common for
gay boys in the South
to find
that strength not to take shit
from anybody and to refrain
the pussy until it gets all
taken care of.
It was miraculous.
I went to high school in drag.
They sent me home because literally half of the student body was following me around the whole school.
And, of course, I went, this is awesome.
I'm going to do this more.
What's next?
I'm sorry, you got me a little emotional there.
That's okay.
I saw Drew tearing up too.
Yeah, I cry every podcast, but usually over something way dumber than that.
So he's the pussy.
Yes, ma'am.
A big part of what we do and the big part of why we ask you to come on here is we don't shy away from the facts of where we grew up.
And the facts of where we grew up are not, it sounds to me, dissimilar from the place you grew up in.
But what comes along with that is that you are also of that place, that those black girls that you just talked about who refrained the pussy are also of that place.
we feel frustrated that the rednecks that you mentioned in that story are Southern,
and then you are somehow in this world we live in, not considered Southern to some people, it seems to us.
Do you find that when you moved to L.A.? Are people saying things?
Oh, no.
Okay, good.
Even more Southern.
Yeah.
And if they don't know, I open my mouth.
Yeah, right.
Because I'm like, where are you from?
Oh, girl, I'm from Texas.
Yeah.
Where we talk loud and we talk fast.
Yeah.
I love it.
And that's true.
but I know exactly what you're saying
where it's like, oh, right, but you're not like,
you're not like a real, like a real southern, southern.
It's like, no, I'm as southern as anybody.
And I'm like, when I get that,
and then I have to sometimes have a conversation with them,
do you mean that I'm not racist and bigot southern?
Or do you mean that I don't know how to cook Southern?
Right.
I mean, what that means?
Somebody posted on one of his videos,
one of his early videos,
the liberal redneck videos that was like,
this guy ain't no goddamn redneck.
And I was like,
have you seen how this motherfucker lit?
Like what?
Just because he's got some different ideas than you means that he grew up on a fucking yacht or something, that's insane to me.
I will have to say, though, that going home more often, I have seen more and more of a change.
Like in Center, Texas, which is population 5,000, it's real tiny.
What's the town called?
Center, Texas.
Center, Texas.
And Shelbyville, and Shelby County.
Okay.
Shelby County.
Yeah, we have, that's where a horse farm and family and all that is.
they have
what's it called P-flag
in high school now
and they have support groups
there's trans kids
coming out in that area
and there's less violence
yeah
well the big part of this idea
actually well the whole idea
are you familiar
with queer Appalachia
no
it's a group it's like an Instagram
group but they do things
like the kids you were talking about
when you get kicked out
Gina
they
I'm going to get the pronouns right
They always do a campaign to like have donations come in.
Here's a trans kid from Virginia who's been kicked out and they need a place to hand.
We're going to get them here, but we need money.
And they do a lot of that work.
They asked me, what are you guys doing for pride?
And I said to them, well, look, I mean, we always feel uncomfortable because it's like not our space
and we don't want to be one of these numerous people who are now capitalizing on how in and cool pride is and stuff.
You mean VH1?
What's that?
You mean VH1?
Right.
Name a corporate.
Right. They're all capitalized moment. And they said, well, you know, thank you. That's good. But you need to also raise those voices up and have them on and stuff and remind people that they exist and that they're like you. And my point with that is they are a big part of where I'm from changing and me seeing it. Queer Appalachia specifically. I mean, they do a lot of work and they, I mean, just by existing almost are changing the place, you know. I love that when it when it's because, you know, I could stand in front of a
camera all day long and just blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and it's just words but until I answer a phone
call and help a father figure out how he can deal and love not love but how he can move forward
and understand his trans child or the opposite how can I tell my parents and then we move forward
together until I'm willing to do that on a personal level nothing changes because a person
is love. People
are fuckers.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. So if I can change
one person and one family at a time,
the ripple effect will
at least take care of
something. I ain't cried twice in a few
podcasts. Well, they
call me Aunt Vancy. I used to have my own podcast
and I help trans families
and I do little advice things
here and there whenever I want to.
And it's just, I've been through hell and back.
I'm homeless, drug addiction, prostitution.
I mean, all kinds of stuff.
because I didn't love who I was because I didn't have me to love me when I was a kid.
So if I don't share that, even how embarrassing it might be,
then what if I don't share that and somebody else does it?
And I find out about them doing it and I can't live with that.
I just can't.
My mom asked me, she said,
why you've told me before that you don't necessarily love working in the bars
because I'm an alcoholic.
And I said, no, I don't like working in the bars.
In fact, it tortures me.
Luckily, in California, I can work in more restaurants than bars.
And I said, but I go anyway.
And I go especially to the bars that have the least love and the least light,
because I have to.
I don't want to.
Hell, I don't want to go in there.
But I do because I'm supposed to.
I need to be there so that just sheer being there,
like you were saying about your, what is it, queer Appalachia?
Gina is their name.
Yeah.
Just by being there and offering my love and laughter,
then it shows somebody who maybe their nose is still bloody from the night before,
or they haven't gone to bed in a couple of days,
or they stink or their parents, you know,
or they're just talking about dick all day long.
Then I can show them that they don't have to live like that.
You just describe Drew there towards the end.
Bless her heart.
Yeah.
Stinking, talking about dick all day.
I don't need to take it that deep, but...
Are you sad, staking, and talking about dicks.
So are you, you sober?
I am.
I just celebrated seven years yesterday.
Seven years, congratulations.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Does that mean you quit right before or after Pride seven years ago?
Well, I don't really go to Pride.
Okay, fair enough.
So, I don't really know.
I don't even, I haven't even put that two together.
I didn't even have that correlation.
until just now.
Fair enough.
Can we talk about
pride and why
why you don't go?
I don't go to pride
because it's too fucking crowded.
Fair enough.
Hey, say no more.
That's all you had to say.
Absolutely.
I don't do that.
And I will also say this.
I am a firm believer
and I will say this
till the day that I die.
I love my community.
All of our acronyms
are just as important
and I will give my last dying breath
to support and do anything
I can for anybody in this community.
However,
Lesbian, gay, bisexual, those are sexuality.
Right.
Trans is identity.
Right.
We didn't have anywhere else to go, so they just shoved us all together.
Right.
And because of that fact, the T and that acronym are treated last on the totem pole.
Right.
When in fact, the trans community is the reason that the gay community has rights in the first place.
Because we're the ones who started beating up the police 50 years ago when they said we couldn't be who we were.
historically speaking, we run the show, but they treat us like shit often.
That we're not even celebrated in pride.
There was no trans celebration in this pride.
We had a, I'm not even going to say where it was at.
Oh, yeah.
Here come the comments, and I'm ready for them.
We had a lesbian woman come up to us at a show once, one of our shows.
She's a fan, event show, liked the show and everything.
And then out of nowhere, she just starts talking about.
uh it's like i love you guys to think you got it all figured out or whatever except for i have to
say i think you're off base when it comes to transgender people and we were like what do you mean
and she's a turf right she's a turf yes a turf you know that that that that's an acronym
turf t-e r f trans exclusionary radical feminist yeah trans exclusionary radical feminist yeah it means that
they're like super feminist super liberal and every other way whatever but for some reason
are still just bigots about transgender people specifically.
Oh, I've heard of them.
Yeah.
We met one in the wild.
I think the claim is in the wild.
Shut the fuck up.
I think the claim is since they're bigoted and don't believe you're really a woman,
therefore you shouldn't be claiming.
Oh, okay.
Now I know who this is.
I think a lot of it too is, I mean, like you said,
I mean, it's not like transgender people have just started to exist.
No.
Hell no.
But from a political standpoint, the past couple years have been huge, you know, with the bathroom bill.
Yes.
The spotlight has been shifted.
And I think that there's a lot of these people that, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We just started getting our shit.
Now all of a sudden, we got to give a fuck about this.
By the way, that ain't right and that shitty.
But I could see it in that woman's eyes where she's like, no, no, no, we're talking about my thing.
Fuck this other thing.
When it's like, no, everybody.
Is that what you, because I was actually, I was going to ask what you thought that whole.
phenomenon. That's my area about.
Yeah, just that or just, I know you're saying y'all get shit on a lot like the,
what do you think that?
This is really controversial and I've had arguments with people before, not argument, but discussions.
I don't think that we should be connected like that.
Right.
I think that we have been shoved in that and have just been forced to get along.
Right.
And it's not working.
I mean, it's like you said.
Let me rephrase that.
In some aspects, it absolutely does work because like yourselves, you're not
asshole, redneck, Republican people, or whatever you want to call them.
Just like that community, our community is not all that way.
Oh, of course.
I just need to say that out loud.
Right.
I have great respect for many, many people in this community.
I mean, that thing you said earlier about lesbian, bisexual, gay lesbian, bisexual,
those are sexualities.
And it transgender is an identity.
It's not the same, like, category, really, but they are, like, lumped together.
So, I mean, I can see, you know, I can see the argument.
I can see, and I can see how anybody inside that community on either side of that might be frustrated with that.
Yes.
And we have trans pride now here in Los Angeles, which is next weekend.
We have to have our separate pride.
I mean, that's a shame.
But on the other hand, it also means that our community is strong enough to stand on our own.
We don't have to celebrate with other people who aren't 100% behind us.
So I love it.
And to get back on the turf,
I just learned that word
I don't argue with ignorance
I don't argue with ignorance
I just you poop I poop
shut the fuck up
Well there you go
You can't you can argue with them
The only thing
In my experience with
You know ignorant bigoted people
The only thing that typically
Will really have an impact on them
Is when it like hits them close to home
Whatever the thing they have a problem with
You know what I mean?
Like I was talking about my uncle
Whenever their son is a transgender girl
Exactly right
Yeah right
That's really the
Which, by the way, I love my father more than life itself, and I think he's my hero.
So I just wanted to say that out last.
He sounds pretty heroic to me.
But, yeah, other than that, you can't, you can't talk that shit out of a person, is all I'm saying.
Like, you can say, I don't care how good your argument is or whatever.
None of that fucking matters.
You can't talk somebody out of that type of close-minded thinking.
Well, I disagree.
I disagree because I'm going to use, what do you call it?
anyway, it's something that's similar.
I'm vegan, and I follow a huge activist, and he was having an argument with a chef who was a butcher.
And by the end of the discussion, the butcher became vegan.
Right.
I think personally, I think there's a difference between a butcher and being a vegan or not versus someone who, I mean, hates people.
Hates people because they're gay or because of their race or whatever.
That dude hated sweet potatoes going in.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I feel like it's...
I see your point, but I also still stand by my statement
that if I was a meat eater and I was,
it was ingrained in me with no choice, do it, do it.
You're to eat, you're to eat, you're to eat.
It's kind of the same thing.
You hate gay.
You hate this.
You hate white.
You hate black.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's just pushed in you.
So maybe not to as an extreme, but still along the same minds.
There also is the whole God part of it, too.
You know what I mean?
Like, they have that.
It's their God.
Yeah.
Who's telling them to be that way.
And they think.
And so, like, what me telling them that that's wrong, man.
They don't give a shit.
Which is God telling them.
But, you know, they don't.
Don't tell him that.
I'm sorry.
God is in you and you and you and me and this one.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Checked out of mail a lot of time ago.
God told me.
I was like, God didn't tell you to tell me nothing.
Because I have two cell phones, three email accounts, and all kinds of social media.
So shut the fuck up and sit down.
Yeah, it's just wild with the whole God thing because, you know, you can, even if you can get through to somebody that's so ingrained in God, then they immediately go back to, well, God told me I'd be tested like this.
You know, I was, I was told that the world was going to test me.
And if I don't stand my ground, I'm going to burn in hell with all the queer people.
It's almost as if, which, by the way, hell would be way way more fun if that's where all the gays were.
For sure.
It's almost as if that was developed over.
thousands of years in order to control people and make them feel miserable.
Almost.
It's almost like they had a convention to decide what misogynistic books they could put into one
massive Bible to control and destroy women.
Yeah.
Who would ever think that white men would do that?
Yeah.
On that note, they probably didn't have to make it that long.
No, they didn't.
They didn't.
Back on the God thing, if I may.
Coming from a very religious family, I have.
I have experienced that, that hate through God.
And in many discussions, we have discovered together that, well, my point is I have left that religion a long, long time ago.
And I found Sikh chance, and it actually healed me enough through addiction to find life again.
I didn't know what it meant.
I didn't know anything.
S-I-K-H?
S-Y-K-H.
Oh, okay.
I think S-I-K-H-I-H.
Yeah, yes.
It's a beautiful religion and the chants are all about God and universe and love and being and all that.
And because I tried something different and I let go of my old ideals, I became healed.
And then I started chanting through Buddhism.
And so now I kind of encompass all of what I've learned and I still keep studying and learning.
So I think as a species, that's what we're supposed to do.
And when you sit in ignorance and say, God did this and my preacher said blacks are the devil and all that stuff, that is your choice.
Right.
Yeah.
That is your choice.
Absolutely.
To sit in ignorance.
You were about to say something.
Well, I was going to say.
Well, I was going to say.
Preach.
Preach.
Preach.
Well, I was going to say we do have to wrap up.
And I was going to ask if there's anything specific that you wanted to say to, you know, our listeners who I think mostly are with you.
but, you know, come from similar towns and similar backgrounds, a lot of them.
Yeah, and then where can we find you and follow you?
Well, I will say, not to those who are on our page, but to those who are not on our page.
I would say, you don't have to like me, you don't have to respect me, but you will be nice.
And that's all we ask. Be nice. Mind your fucking business and be nice.
I'm not bothering you. I don't go to Taco Bell and...
Fuck with you when you're in front of the frostation.
Don't come to me and fuck with me.
It's that simple, I would imagine.
If I love myself...
Taco Bell is a place of love.
Yes, it is.
We don't have to bring Taco Bell.
Okay, 7-11.
We'll switch you to 7-1.
I don't kick the slurpy machine while you're aware.
All right.
But if I love myself.
I know.
If I love myself enough, I can sit aside.
We really are all.
Hold on now.
Hold on.
I know he's getting up in a seat.
I'm like, wait, whoa, bitch, what you're doing?
But if I love myself enough, then I can sit beside any.
anybody, no matter who they are, what they smell, who they worship, whatever they look like, and love them enough.
She keeps bringing up smell.
We stay, no.
We stayed, clearly.
Well, I told him when I walked in, it smelled like a little bit like a locker room, and I think I have some frieze in my bag on.
That ain't me.
I took a shower before I came here.
Where can people listen and follow?
You can find me on YouTube and Facebook at Vancey Vega, V-A-N-C-I-E-E-E-G-A, and on Instagram at Vancey-V-E-E-G-A, and on Instagram at Vancey-V-G-G-N-I-G-N.
And I will have all this linked in the show description on
on iTunes and Spotify and all that good stuff.
Where's that show at Pasadena?
This is, soon.
It is, actually, it's this Tuesday, day after tomorrow at Broadway in Pasadena.
It's a brand new venue and it's a new show.
It needs lots of support.
When you're listening to Wednesday, yeah.
930.
If you're in Pasadena or the L.A. area, tomorrow, Thursday, June, whatever that is.
That's right.
11th or 12th or something.
Go to Broadway and Pasadena.
Boulevard and Pasadena.
Does he at Broadway?
Boulevard in Pasadena.
Boulevard.
930 show time.
Okay.
All right.
Well, thank you so much, Fancy.
It's been a pleasure.
If you ever want me to come, turn it upside down again, please let me know.
Absolutely.
We'll do.
Aunt Vancy, everybody.
Ant Vancy.
All right.
Skew.
Can you give us a skew?
Stoo!
Didn't even know what it was.
Nailed it like that.
I know what that is.
Okay.
I know the red clay were.
I used to slop pigs as a kid.
Don't comfort me like that.
You used to slap pigs?
Slop.
Slop.
Okay.
Word.
She used to gna up me down the mud.
You don't the mud.
You get a whole different story.
I know what slop is, but I thought she said I used to slap pigs when I was a kid.
I thought it was like a cow tipping thing.
I just go up and bitch slap a pig.
Oh, I never did that I was always.
We called Corey a pig.
He got excited there a little bit.
He thought he was going to slap him.
That's a nice sound clip.
See you guys later.
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