wellRED podcast - #128 - Silicon Valley, Shakespeare, and Floor Fartin'

Episode Date: July 31, 2019

This week the boys discuss the potential dangers of a future completely controlled by social media and how much William Shakespeare hits.Also The CHO discusses a unique tactic for fart amplification ...wellredcomedy.com for tickets

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Starting point is 00:06:07 Also, going forward, just starting this week, if you're not into podcast apps and shit, because I have people all the time like, hey, man, fuck iTunes and fuck Spotify and all that shit, how can I, you know, get your podcast aside from that? Well, it's now on our website at well-readcom. com. So share that link with everybody that's wanting to listen to it, but doesn't necessarily fuck with phones and shit. You know, some people, they either, uh, they're old, uh, so they don't fuck with podcast
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Starting point is 00:07:35 you and let's keep. Well, well. I farted because I thought he was done and then he wasn't done. And so I just was sitting in a fart. Don't hit. Yeah. Do you guys
Starting point is 00:08:05 ever try to breathe in a lot so you get all of your own fart so you're not embarrassed so nobody else smells it you mean like vacuum up your own fart yeah no i've never tried to do that but that hits that you do yeah there's a tactic i learned in high school no man i'm immune baby you would pass out if you try to do that to my own farts i just meant like the amount of breath you it would take to suck up oh it never works that's such a funny that sounded that's the most sounded like a thing i would say thing that you've ever said in your life vacuum up my own farts do you guys ever try to breathe in your own fart so that everybody else don't smell you would have to care about other people to do this
Starting point is 00:08:50 particular one though speaking of sounding like a thing yeah that's what right that's why it doesn't sound like something you'd say speaking of sounding like a thing you would expect not drew to say one of the most unexpected and surprising hits of my life, like I was truly blindsided by this information, was finding out that Drew at one point was addicted to one of those micro-transaction mobile games, like specifically, Tune Town? Tune Blast.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Tune Blast. It's like a Candy Crush-style situation. If you ever played any mobile apps, or mobile games at all, or even just got on Reddit or anything on your phone and you see those ads for these like just literally cartoonishly moronic games. And you think to yourself, who in God's name is playing these things, let alone spending money on them? And come to find out, the answer, at least in part, is our very own Drew Morgan, which I just did not see coming. the record, I would like to,
Starting point is 00:10:03 I feel like I owe Drew an apology and I would like to defend him at least a little bit because the entire time that we were shitting on him, and we were shitting on him, and he was taking it pretty well. My entire grief, well, not grief with it, but like my entire reason for shitting
Starting point is 00:10:19 on him was that he spent money on it. I don't find the game to be any dumber than any other fucking phone games. I'm not going to shit on him for that. I mean, for the record. Well, I mean, first of all, I agree. Yeah, it's the spending money part.
Starting point is 00:10:35 It is, it is dumb. The game is dumb. But everybody's played those little dumb phone games, you know, like Candy Crush in particular. But I at least, and this is true, I'm not, no lies here, I've played candy crushing all that. And for me, every time I've got to that point that everybody gets to, everybody knows what I'm talking about, where you fuck up and you run out of hearts and you can spend real life money, you can spend real life money. you can spend real life money to keep going. Every time I've ever got to that point, which has been frequent,
Starting point is 00:11:05 I always go, fuck that. You aren't getting me and just close it up. But you be spending money. Well, yes and no. So, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what happened was, so we were traveling or whatever a lot. And I just started getting into playing games
Starting point is 00:11:28 on my phones on the plane when I couldn't sleep, which was a lot. And Sudoku, did I say it right? I think that's how I say it, yeah. Sudoku! I think that's the proper... Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, that's how you say it. I was playing... Sudoku! And... Words with Friends, and, you know, I guess cerebral-type games. And I got over that. That is the gateway.
Starting point is 00:11:50 That's the gateway. Words with Friends. And there was a few games I played. I had a golf game. I had an archery game. I tried to get back into Angry Birds because I used to like it and I didn't get into it. There was a woodblock puzzle game. I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I like Tetrisi. Or it's the red ones where you move it out of the way to make a pass. The Tetrisy. The Tetrisy one, yeah, I know what you're talking about. And I like the Tetrisy one a lot. But there was no end to it, like quite literally. And the way the game works is you've got to make the wood blocks disappear. It literally is designed to go on forever.
Starting point is 00:12:25 So I got not bored with it, but just like, all right. And tune blast was advertised heavily. This is the part I want to understand, because I've seen those, it does advertise heavily. It's one of the most, like, heavily advertised ones out there. And every time I've seen it. Also, for the record, one of the most popular ones out there. Right. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:12:44 But, again, it's that it's you. It's you seeing these ads, because I've seen them too. Yeah. And you being like, yeah, that'll hit. Well, this is it. If you get past tune blast, it's just. a puzzle not unlike the wood thing. No, it's also that there was an added element.
Starting point is 00:13:01 There was a very popular one years ago, kind of before even mobile apps and bars and stuff. Corey, you know what I'm talking about? It's the exact same game. You touch the colors. No. Fuck. I don't know. It's going to drive me crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Tomblast is literally a clone of it. You touch the colors and make the colors like explode. It goes back to like, like, like addictinggames.com days. It's similar to Bejewel, but it's not bejeweled. So yes. I just always thought they were all knock off of bejoled. I mean, they are. It's a Tetra-style color game where if you touch the colors that are touching each other,
Starting point is 00:13:36 everyone that's touching will disappear. But the added element is if there's a certain amount, like if there's like nine or more touching, you get a disco ball. If there's like five or more touching, you get a bomb. And when you do that, so that the idea is, you know, don't explode the first three you see. Right. Let it build.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And then you get these big, weapons and like the disco ball two disco balls will explode everything and uh i got pretty into it and it was a puzzle and the addicting part is that you lose and the tunes taunt you and you know when we first started talking about this y'all were like what do they do they talk shit like like like that little bear talk shit to you? No, the bear's always on your team. Yeah, he seems like a good dude. No, he's the sociopath.
Starting point is 00:14:32 He's the one who's truly manipulating you. He's the cult leader. Yeah, he's the one that gets you to keep buying stuff. Yeah, the wolf talks shit. It's okay, buddy. And the bear plays good talk. We can keep playing if you just give us $2.99, buddy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:45 So, um, it was, you know, the most entertaining one to me. It was my favorite puzzle game. And the way I justified it and still due to a certainty. extent. And at first, this was completely true. And I stand by this for the most part. Now, it will get to the point where I can't stand by it anymore. But you pay like $2 for, you know, a weapons package or whatever and extra hearts. And extra hearts, yeah. Yeah. Because like when this first came up, you guys were telling me, you know, well, I play games. And I're, all right, well, what do you do when you lose? Just turn it off. Like a coward.
Starting point is 00:15:24 We have Netflix, and I think Andy paid for Amazon Prime recently, which includes, was it Hulu or that, no, Amazon. They've got their own channel, right? Yes. Yeah, they got their own channel. That's it. I don't have cable. I don't play PlayStation.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I don't have one. I spend as a family, including Spotify, $30 a month on entertainment or games. and so it didn't bother me at all to spend $5 a month or whatever on Tune Blast and for the first two months it was $5 to $10 and it was like I like this fucking puzzle game these other puzzle games suck I'm on this plane because Andy would be like she saw me
Starting point is 00:16:10 did you just spend money on one of those games I was like yeah she was like how much does that cost and I was like I don't know I think it was like $12 last month and then one month Looking at y'all's statement? That don't hit. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:24 She saw me doing it. Andy has never looked at a goddamn statement. She makes statements, but she never read one. You could put that in the act somewhere. And then one month I spent $83 or so. And then that's when I quit. That is when I quit. And it's because I was getting up to like a high level,
Starting point is 00:16:50 and it was getting harder. And that was it. It was my competitive. I wanted to beat the fucking game. I think it has 150 levels. Wait, no. That's one of them like Candy Crush, right? There is no beating it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Well, maybe that's part of the whole deal with it. Yeah. You can't beat it. It's not like the Wood Game, though, where the algorithm can keep going. If it's true that you can't, I mean, someone had to make each level because each level has a design to it.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Each level is a puzzle. So if what you're saying is true, I mean, that means they've made a million of those or whatever. I think that's how Candy Crush works, because it's so popular. I mean, they have, like,
Starting point is 00:17:22 devs that work on Candy Crush because they make more money on it, so they make new levels every fucking day so that the game never ends. I'm pretty sure. And, yeah, Toomblast is also very popular, so I totally see them doing the same thing.
Starting point is 00:17:33 The game never ends. That sounds like a Black Mirror episode. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I was about to say this sounds like your fucking nightmare. You could probably base a Blackmair episode over that or on that. So anyway, I just felt, and still feel like,
Starting point is 00:17:45 because I quit after the first month that it was $83, that this was, you know, I don't know, pretty justified. I was spending money on entertainment. Yeah. I mean, dude, neither one of us are going to put you on blast for, like, spending money of unnecessary money. It's just, you know, buy cocaine or something. But, like, y'all be buying games? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:10 So, this statement is about to open and probably end very ravenly. So like in the gaming community, Drew. Yeah. Go ahead and shit on me with a sentence that begins with that. Micro transactions in particular have been majorly under fire in recent years because they're generally considered to be... Unethical. Yeah, and bullshit. Because kids are the ones...
Starting point is 00:18:35 And targeted towards stupid kids. Right, yes. And we know the gaming community has been nothing but the utmost of ethics. Well, that's kind of the... point is like when the gaming community is like oh this seems uncooled and like you know it's pretty shitty jack black was on conan i think or maybe stephen colbert and told this story about his like 10 year old son getting into one of these on jack black's ipads yeah he ended up having a bill for like fifteen hundred dollars or something jesus and he called them and you know complaint they waved it
Starting point is 00:19:09 they didn't make him pay it but it's like i mean yeah it's a whole deal it's a it's its own miniature debate that doesn't rise to the level of national prominence rightly so no it's predatory and most of those games are based upon like proven Vegas works slot machine stuff uh intermittent
Starting point is 00:19:28 positive reinforcement did you know that they've pretty much proven that the dude who invented the screen scroll accidentally invented um just a copy of a slot machine and that's one big reason we're addicted to our phones a dude was designed
Starting point is 00:19:45 So he was designing something for Twitter. The refresh. You know how you slide it to refresh. He only did that because he just didn't have room for a refresh button in whatever particular area he was working in. He was like, what if I just make it where they got to do that to refresh? And now everybody does it. And also Facebook blew up. Notifications used to pop up in blue.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Now they were in your bar. They made it red, and it's the only thing red on the screen. And their popularity exploded. user time exploded. I feel like I read an article about that dude, the dude that created the refresh algorithm or whatever, and he has like fucking nightmares about it. Like he super regrets doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:29 That's got to be a weird thing to do or to be to experience, I guess, creating something, you know, being like a modern day Victor Frankenstein. Right. Yeah. You know the guy that made the, what are they called? the little, God damn it, the little coffee cup pods. K cups? K cups.
Starting point is 00:20:51 The guy that invented those. Curig. Kruig. But, yeah, the K cups, those things in particular. The guy that invented those has regretted it ever since because they're so insanely bad for the environment. And I'm pretty sure. And you feel like this guy should have seen it coming. But I think the dude that invented either the Gatling gun, I think it was, or some like major instrument of war, he thought.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I think it's the Gatlin gun I think Oppenheimer feels his way about the atomic bomb Yes but like this dude so it was like you know like
Starting point is 00:21:24 Civil War-ish era and there was nothing like that at the time we didn't have and this dude thought that like it would put an end to more conflicts like the same
Starting point is 00:21:37 the same concept as like nuclear weapons but on a smaller scale it's like if this the dumbest thought If this is a factor, then people just won't fight because it's so, you know, indefensible. Yeah, surely not everyone will just get one. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Or just throw a mountain of poor people at it. Fuck. Fought. Even though that even if it is that dude, he's been dead for years, I still feel bad for putting a man on blast and not even being sure that's who it was. It's like. That's like at time that you and Corey killed. No, me and Corey killed while a shot on. here you're paul and mary you know it was uh fucking fleetwood mac yeah accused the drummer of raping his
Starting point is 00:22:19 daughter because it was pretty hardcore pretty severe because it was false accusation to have made because it was peter paul mary which and i'm not even sure it's infinitely worse i'm not even sure it was peter paul mary that's right it was that's right it was which is creepy wait hold on hold on we don't we still don't know that yeah i looked it up it's gnarly okay article that they had like a relationship when she was 19 uh like they dated Corey, the article that you read that in, was that about like the philosophy and morality of Silicon Valley? Maybe. Like, I sincerely don't remember much about it except for like, all I remember was, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:02 they were talking about the dude that invented the refresh feature. And like, it was in my mind, I was like, oh, yeah, a dude had to have done that. And they were just talking about how much he regretted it because of all. ultimately how much it changed pretty instantly the way that we interact on social media and really, you know, pumped up our already pretty bad addiction to social media. So I don't remember. It probably was that. Hell, you may have sent it to me.
Starting point is 00:23:30 There was an article that I read. It had a piece on him. It had a bunch of stuff in there. And it was on that. It was on the morality of Silicon Valley. And it's really interesting and kind of. kind of scary that
Starting point is 00:23:46 obviously we still all have to exist in the real world for now but that it's sort of if you think of it like a place the internet as a place or social media as a place these guys are and it is mostly guys
Starting point is 00:24:05 which is one of the things the article was talking about are creating culture with like almost all not in a vacuum but I mean it's just like think about comment sections and how horrible they are that's like the smallest most everyday version of what we're talking about how awful the internet could be but then go up to the guy and venting the refresh thing and whether or not he's thinking about it whether he cares I mean once he did it and people saw how addictive it was no one went what does that mean everyone went that means money let's all get a version of it Yeah. Sure. I mean, you got kids. I mean, do you worry about, I guess, online culture?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Not really. You know why? And we were talking just the other night at that concert about how I'm, and I think because I have kids, I'm actually at a macro level, an optimist, at a personal life level, you know, very much not. But as far as- I think I'm the opposite.
Starting point is 00:25:08 As far as humanity goes and everything, I'm an optimist, I think, because I have kids. Part of that is, specifically what you just brought up. I believe, and not just like my son's generation, but probably the one right before them, too. Honestly, like maybe starting right after us, like right after us, the generations of kids from then on are so, like technology and the internet and social media and all of that is so integrated into their experience. of life in general, like, it's such an ingrained part of it that I think they will have a greater, what's the, like, proficiency and understanding, and they'll, you know, they'll, they'll navigate it all very differently than us old asses from our generation on back goes. I could not agree more.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I don't mean necessarily, I think, I think what you're talking about is like this fear that's out there. of like the comment section. Yeah. That, I think I completely agree with you. To me, it's more, I guess it's my fear of like corporations and greed, you know, things like the refresh button being so fucking addictive. I mean, it had been a thing for eight years when I read that in the article and I'd never thought about it. In other words, people realize that, you know, someone's certain. talking to this journalist about it eventually
Starting point is 00:26:50 but for a few years it was almost a secret yeah that's the shit that scares me but like you know what else is very super addictive and all that is opium and we used to give that to babies because they were just like yeah make some shut the hell up make some quiet they stop coughing
Starting point is 00:27:06 hits yeah I don't eventually we were like yeah we ought not do that eventually yeah well that's what I'm saying like I don't think that like the internet's going to kill humanity I guess I'm just saying that and it's not just like, you know, oh, it's addictive, it's bad for you. It's also information and their control of it.
Starting point is 00:27:25 You know, facial recognition software. Like the power that, you know, quote unquote, big data now has. Oh, my God. Now that is freaky. That's, I'm talking about all of that. But it's not because it's all coming from, for the most part, it's all coming from one. I'm talking about Silicon Valley in general. I'm talking about the technology sector of our society is working inside.
Starting point is 00:27:48 is working with stuff and inside stuff that we as human beings have not crossed a threshold. And the fact that it all belongs to these corporations freaks me the fuck out. That part of it absolutely scares the shit out of me because that's like the fucking minority report section of it that like super terrifies me. But I thought you were referring literally just to like social media and comment sections. And the thing I was going to comment was that and I agree with Trey that, A, it's just going to be so much a part of those kids' lives, they won't know a fucking difference. But B, like, as bad as, like, the comment section can get and as bad as online bullying can
Starting point is 00:28:27 get, the other side of that coin to me is that for the first time in any generation ever, people from every culture are in the same little tiny world together. So that, yeah, those same kids who are just going to fucking, like, jump on some Xbox chat and call somebody a fag for nothing, like, that exists. but at the same time, some kid is going to be able to have an actual conversation with a Muslim. Like, some kid in Alabama could actually talk to somebody completely different than them without having to leave their goddamn house, which used to never could happen. And I'm like, arguably is the cause for a shit ton of problem.
Starting point is 00:29:05 So, like, I feel like it could go either way. It's interesting you bring that up. Most of the article that I read was focused on how Generation X is who invented. a lot of the things, and that's what they thought they were doing. Like a lot of these old... What I just said? Yes, a lot of these old head Silicon Valley
Starting point is 00:29:26 sort of inventors or whatever, creators, felt very much like they were getting to exist outside of the government and all that because no one understood the Internet and what they were doing, and they were pumped about it. They were pumped about information leveling the playing field. And what scared me the most about the article was how opposite of that it's worked out.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And what some of the guys who've been there a long time have talked about, both in terms of social media and the addiction and data and minority report shit and all that is, we underestimated how quickly corporations and big business would get a handle on this before it spread to... I mean, and this is sort of the crux of that show, Silicon Valley. The idea is those guys are trying to bring, quote, unquote, the internet to everybody. I mean, do you know about that part of it? They're trying to reinvent the internet. It starts out.
Starting point is 00:30:22 They're trying to make a compression program so you could transfer data and stuff way faster and easier and more securely than before that. And then it turns into like peer-to-peer internet. Storage. Yeah. Everybody on the internet is using each other as like a hive mine. Which means that Google can't control what you see and the Chinese government. can't control what you see. The reason he chose that, my judge, as the sort of backbone of the show, is that's one of
Starting point is 00:30:54 the pervasive, I guess, like philosophical existential crisis they're having, people who worked there. I mean, again, according to this article, which is that we invented this. A lot of us came out here hoping to change the world. We are. But as we get bought out and Google and all these other places get, you know, whatever control over it, it's... It's not working out the way we want it to.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It's the opposite of the way we wanted it to. It's not leveling the playing field. It's actually making it more of a disparity. Yeah. I mean, Google and Facebook and all of them, they have, like, they have more information and everything, like, on individuals and just on everything than, like, the CIA, MI6, the KGB, all, like, combined to them, which is fucking insane to even think about. But, like, there's going to have to be a... I still...
Starting point is 00:31:59 All that shit I was saying earlier about the younger generations than us and being more savvy about all the shit than we are. I think this will also be part of it. Like, there'll be a reckoning with this whole situation that will come from them when they're in positions of... to do anything or have anything done about it. Because they'll, I think they'll just have an intrinsic understanding of all of this stuff more than any of the rest of us do. And so they're not going to be as subject, like, easily, you know, victimized by it.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I fear they'll have an intrinsic acceptance of it. Maybe, but not if it's like, if it, if it truly ends up being something like really dangerous or fucked up for them, then they're not going to. That's part of being savvy about it, in my opinion. I don't believe that they'll just... What point does you get so big that you can't do shit? Well, I mean, you can always do something. Move to the woods. No, I'm saying John D. Rockefeller found that out.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Like, he... Do you know what I mean by that? Monopoly's and antitrust and all that. That didn't used to be a thing. And then he owned every drop of oil in the fucking world, basically. and became the richest man in history and all this shit. And then regulations were put in place saying, you know, that don't hit and that ain't fair. And you shouldn't be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And it got broken up. And each one of those parts that got broken into, most of them were still around, Exxon, Mobile and all those. And individually, they make more in profit per year than so, like, entire sectors. But still, that's an example of what I, there will be, there will be like a legislative or regulative reckoning with this. situation. It's unavoidable. And I'm saying I think that... But if it doesn't come quick enough, the problem is the danger that the legislative system itself becomes engulfed. I mean, that John D. Rockefeller owned oil. Facebook arguably owns culture. Not all of it yet. I mean, they've already been accused essentially of swaying an election. What happens when a company literally does
Starting point is 00:34:15 that or tell somebody they will we'll fucking rig it well i'll tell on you who you gonna tell yeah but we'll say it was bullshit i don't think that oil then or now is i mean like
Starting point is 00:34:31 it's a highly valuable and impactful commodity back then just as much as you know i mean think about how what how much i completely agree we use oil for everything one man being in control of all that and being able to show that like that's you know was they realized that then they're like this is not this is not
Starting point is 00:34:51 a good situation for everybody right this is very dangerous but what if it's not analogous i think to the situation i don't think it is information and private data i don't think it is for two reasons one information and private data isn't as valuable as oil but i'm saying it could be very soon two it's not going to be one man or one company it's getting close it's not going to be one man or one company you know what i mean and there's and there's going to be and there's going to be no consensus, which is the positive of that, of like, what to do. But if they can agree on three or four things, it's going to be hard to stop them. And, you know, maybe they won't.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Maybe good people there will, you know, whatever. But our government already doesn't understand. I mean, did you see some of those Facebook hearing questions? Right, I know, but that's part of what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. I know. You're talking about a generation of kids who does understand it. And I agree with you completely.
Starting point is 00:35:42 but I don't think that that connection happens in five years. Like, it's going to take a lot, and then there's a danger of it sort of being too little too late. Like, they just, again, acquiesce to this is how it is now. But what are they going to be doing, though, in that interim, in your opinion? They being the lizards with all the data. Like, what's the... I understand... Control.
Starting point is 00:36:08 That we don't want, that this is not something... I don't know. It's a potentially dangerous situation, but I'm saying like, what are they going to... The fact that there isn't just one of... The fact that there isn't just one of them already makes a difference, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I don't feel like you're going to see the four or five of them that there are colluding together, probably, because they're probably all individually megalomaniacal enough to be more inclined to try to take the other ones down. Like, I'm not saying... This is like a fucking Uber capitalization.
Starting point is 00:36:42 argument. I'm not saying we should let them regulate each other. I'm saying until we get to this point where, you know, like I said, where we have people with authority who understand all this enough to actually do something about it, if that is 20 years from now until we get to that point, like, what's the worst thing? Famous last words. What's the worst thing that's going to happen in that 20 year period? I bet Drew has a lot of opinions on what the worst thing that's going to happen is. Yeah. How much time you go? My direct answer is an expansion of what's already happening, which is that, I mean, the Koch brothers are already in arguably one of the most powerful political forces in this country. they've never been elected to do anything.
Starting point is 00:37:28 What they do is they buy elections with money. When and if Google and Facebook decides to sway elections with information, I think that's going to be an even scarier prospect. Don't you think, like, we haven't regulated the Koch brothers. That doesn't hit. They literally bought the Supreme Court so that they could, you know, continue to be people as corporations. That doesn't hit to be allowed to happen either way, but don't you think if Google sways an election, it will probably go our way? The first time.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, like... The first time. Like, it don't hit to have anybody swaying elections, but if we already got the Koch brothers out here doing it, you know, hell. The first time. Or, I mean, the argument with Facebook swaying the last election is just that they sold ads to the Russians. They were just being business. You know, they had no moral compass, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:24 It was just make that money. Yeah, I just don't. It's hard for me to see, maybe it's naiveteer. I just haven't thought about it enough, but it's hard for me to see Silicon Valley going like the alt-right fascist direction. It's already starting to happen. They're all, because they're such free speech and anti-regulation people, they are already in cahoots with a lot of right-wing people, a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:55 listen to that guy who runs Twitter, Jack, go watch his interviews on Joe Rogan and listen to him talk about with disdain how much he hates the left. Because they're not like racist, but they're like often in cahoots with some of these people
Starting point is 00:39:12 because they're hardcore Coke brother types. And as we've seen with the Koch brother types, they don't give a fuck about black people or gay people. They just give a fuck about continuing to do what they want to do. I know there are people out there who occupy that, but I'm saying, oh, like, what's your image of them? Like, they sit on Swiss balls and play ping pong at lunchtime and shit. They're not fascists. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:38 They're baristas with, like, a tad job. I think that's terribly naive. The guy who made the... You really think that the majority of those people in Northern California, at these tech startups and shit, that they're predominantly... No. Not the majority. The ones at the top. This is exactly what I'm talking about with the soul of Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 00:40:00 The Generation Xers who moved out there and all the little kids who there's their heroes now who design the apps and stuff, not at all. But this is what those guys were talking about being afraid of. Corporate America saw what was going on. That's not who I'm worried about. It's the venture capitalists who owned the goddamn company. Our generation of Lizzie, you're talking about our generation of kids who are going to grow up in this and all that. Yeah, there's that. Think about the next generation of sociopaths.
Starting point is 00:40:28 They're not going to Wall Street anymore. They're going to Palo Alto. The young 20-year-old future wolves of Wall Street, they don't live in New York. They don't give a fuck about banking because they know they can make a billion dollars in a day out there. And when they start doing it and they already have, when they start controlling the boardrooms and that's starting to happen, that fucking freaks me out. So no, I don't think it's the guys on Mark Zuckerberg was just a dork. but think about who he's surrounded by now i'm just saying i feel like the culture of it is just not but but again though like what are they gonna what are they what are they really
Starting point is 00:41:11 going to do they're going to keep trying to sell more things to more people and get more money from and whatever else that don't hit for me but it's not fucking keeping me up at night either right what's keeping me yes i get that and i mostly agree with you. What keeps me up at night, the counter argument in my head to that is what they're going to do is the same thing that Rockefeller did and try to do and the Koch brothers do and try to do. They're going to try to be lizards. They're going to control as much power. And I'm saying data is so powerful that I'm afraid they'll be more successful at it than any generation of wealthy people we've seen. Progressive presents precious moments. Hey Jess, want to come for a ride on my motorcycle?
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Starting point is 00:42:31 I'm not, I'm also not saying that it's just okay and we should just be fine with it. Right. Like I said, it's just not keeping me up at night. Like I don't know. I worry more about way other shit. Not that you can't worry about multiple things at once, but like, you know, I just don't. To me, it's not a doomsday scenario. It's a brave new world minority report scenario. It's a creep along.
Starting point is 00:42:56 you know, they're controlling, like, keeping you busy with ads, keeping you busy with addicted games, et cetera, et cetera, until all we literally are is a funnel of money and resources into them. And part of what I'm saying is I think, I genuinely believe that the future generations coming up will be aware of all that and thus less susceptible to just falling into it. they'll still be, you know, the less than the dumber ones or less educated ones or whatever who fall for, you know, the same types of shit that happens right now with, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:35 the people that are hooked on the slot machines in Vegas or, you know what I mean? Like, those people will still exist. But I think by and large, they'll, most of them will know all that shit is happening and will thus be able to avoid it if they want to. Or if they're concerned about it. I just, I don't know. I just. To me, this is. This is like, this is a natural, like, there's a transition period, there's growing pains of this or whatever, but this is like inexorable.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Like, the way we have advanced and technologies and all that shit, like, it is a brave new world. But what I'm saying is, and there is a scary, like, potential, you know, dystopian version of it. I'm saying I have faith in the younger generations to avoid that. happening because they're going to be savvy enough about all the shit. You said it was natural. I so completely agree with that. I mean, every generation goes through some version of this. I guess what I'm saying is what keeps me up at night.
Starting point is 00:44:36 There's like two things in my lifetime. And I'm sure every generation felt this way about whatever was scared, about the steam engine, you know, or the way my dad does about computers or whatever. Like I'm sure every generation was like, this could go bad. What keeps me up at night is two things. The information age being so pervasive, once we live our entire. lives on that system, you know, in the cloud, the fact that someone can control it, that keeps me up at night in a way of like, I don't know if you can come back from that if the control of that gets their own hands. And then, of course, the atomic bomb.
Starting point is 00:45:07 I mean, and I think the last two generations have realized, you know, you can't fucking come back from that, if you go down that. Well, by the way, for the record, just going back briefly just to say, it was not the guy that invented the Gatlin gun. It was a guy named Hiram Maxim who invented the automatic machine gun specifically who had that whole thing of oh with these instruments of war countries would be less that that whole thing i said earlier and then also turns out uh kalishnikov the guy that invented the AK 47 he also uh very much regrets doing that but to that one in particular to me is like uh michael and arrested development with the dead dove in the bag you know what i mean like i don't know
Starting point is 00:45:48 what i expect yeah i don't know what he expected to happen the gatlin the gatlin gun is a first ballot Hall of Fame fucking murder machine. Like, anytime I was ever playing Call of Duty or shit and I got up in the bell tower and they had one of them fucking Gatlin guns, I was like, oh shit, it's about to go down. Joe. Yeah. What do you think about all this stuff? Well, my only argument, I guess, to you where you say that this younger generation is
Starting point is 00:46:17 going to be more savvy towards it. And I, you know, I talk about on stage how I think that this current generation is smarter than we are and I think that we were smarter than our parents and I think our parents are smart. I think that's just how it works. That's evolution and that's how it fucking should be. My only problem and I may be stupid here is that we're in a, our generation is in a transition period. And so we are able to see what's happening and point it out because it's so much different than how we grew up. My concern is that with these younger generations and as it continues forward is that they've never known anything different, so it's going to be very hard for them
Starting point is 00:46:57 to see the bullshit. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you hear all the time from like, people are saying, oh, well, that's just, that's just the way the world is. Can't do nothing about that. A hook, a hook. Well, I mean, eventually it's going to get to the point where they've literally never lived in a world where they're not constantly having their eyeballs scanned at malls and
Starting point is 00:47:15 having fucking golf clubs hocked to them through fucking targeted ads on Instagram and having their shit sold and like that's the world they grow up in so like it's going to be a lot harder for them to distinguish between what should be and what is that's what i think yeah but i think that's been true i agree agree agree with that you know what i mean like you know every now no i agree like but you have american colored glasses on i mean that's that like you know without wrapping myself in the flag and being too xenophobic here that truly is what made this experiment special i mean you know obviously we were doing it on the backs of slaves and dead indians but But we kept overcoming those things and prospering.
Starting point is 00:47:54 But like that ain't that ain't happening everywhere. I mean, China's already having a generation of kids who are going through some shit where the government is looking at everything and controls what they can see. And eventually they will break out of that. Yes. Be a bloody revolution. But they're in China, their grandparents were starved to death, the tens of millions by fucking Mao Zedong.
Starting point is 00:48:16 So like it's still like, like, that's the shit I'm afraid of. Almost everywhere. Right. We have progressed in some way, like around the entire planet. What did it cost? Like, and I'm saying it only takes one generation not doing it the right exact way for a country to fall apart. Well, that's true. For half of the kids you're talking about to die.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And so I share with you the macro optimism of humans will figure it out. I truly do. Even with global warming, I think the earth will kill a fuck ton of us. us and the people left will be like, hey, let's not do that again. Right. But that's, that's fucked up, though. That's a fucked up scenario. That's my negative.
Starting point is 00:48:59 You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Like, if we become China, even for two generations, that's a fucked up scenario. Yeah. I just don't, I just don't think that's going to happen. I mean, I might be wrong. I just don't see that happen. No, but I mean, you know, North Korea has proven in the past however the fuck long,
Starting point is 00:49:18 however long that family's been in power that, I mean, you don't need insane technology and data mining to control what people see and to completely control a nation and be, you know, authoritative dictators. So, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, maybe we, you know, we are fucking better than that. Right. I mean, that's pretty much all I'm saying is like, yeah, no, you're right.
Starting point is 00:49:40 We are better than that, but who knows. There's something in between, though. Something had to happen. Quote, unquote, the free world. and North Korea. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's China. Yeah, I was going to say China.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And that don't hit? No, no. No, I don't miss. Well, I don't know. Well, I don't know. Well, this don't hit. What was that? What was that?
Starting point is 00:50:15 This is a bit Andy does. So, anytime someone's driving a huge truck, Oh yeah I know about this She just does this character And all the character can say is I got a big truck Goet truck She sent me a video
Starting point is 00:50:37 They do hit by the way They do hit She sent me a video Where she's driving by a raptor And she says I got a big truck And then she's zoomed in on where it says Raptor and said it's a Raptor So like what will happen is someone
Starting point is 00:50:49 In one of those will get on her ass Or cut her off or just exist near her on the interstate. Yeah. And she'll start going, I got to be Chuck. I got to be Chuck. And that's what that was, Joe.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah. While doing that character. While being right. Yeah. I got to be trapped from fire explosion. Speaking of paradigm shifts and all that, one of the things on my little list I got over here that occurred to me while high the other night.
Starting point is 00:51:16 So I was watching Stranger Things, right? Again. Sorry. That was wild. That was wild. I moved my microphone listeners, and it sounded like I made a stranger thing. It did. Yeah, that's sort of like it's like when you fart with your shoe in class.
Starting point is 00:51:32 You're like, no, no, it was my shoe, and you can never recreate it. That's not what I thought you meant by fart with my shoe. What did you think? In my mind, it was that you took your shoe off and put the sole of your sheet, like the whole part where your foot goes in up to your asshole and like made it echo through your shoe. No, but you know what I'm talking about? Yes, yeah, where you pull your foot back and it makes that noise like you're on a basketball corner. Just any fart that is an actual fart, no one believes you it's not a fart and you can't recreate it ever, no matter what it was.
Starting point is 00:52:03 The mix of how ridiculous Corey is as a human and Trey wanting very much to get to his point. Just had Trey go, no. Did you hear what he's saying? That was insane. He thought you meant just casually you were just talking about, you know how when you shove a shoe up your ass? No, he said when you fart into the hole of it. Oh, when I heard into the hole, I thought you meant put a shoe into your bow. No, no.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And I thought you were just like, no, man, not that. But there's no reason for us to dwell on that scenario you created. Well, it was funny. If he said, make a fart noise with your shoe, I'd have been like, yeah. But he said, you know when you fart with your shoe. Right. I mean, no, I can't really back my way. Like farting with a metal chair.
Starting point is 00:52:42 But it's not as ridiculous as what I thought. When you said put it up to the hole, you meant a hole with a shoe. I literally thought, I was like in my head, Corey, It was, like, putting the toe of a shoe right up against his butt hole. The other... No, well, like... I don't know if y'all used to do this. Y'all used to, like, whenever you had, like, a real big fart coming on, you, like...
Starting point is 00:53:01 Getting a metal chair. Like, you'd... Yeah, get in a middle chair or pull your pants down and get, like, down the linoleum on the fucking kitchen floor, whatever. He spread your butt. You spread your butt apart. Y'all don't do that? Dude, I still do it. Listen.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Hold on. Yeah. Yeah. When you have, when you've got a real banger brewing, like a real triple flutter blast coming up, you take your pants off. Underwear too? You have to put, well, yeah, what are you doing? Right. Otherwise, there's no point.
Starting point is 00:53:37 If you're going to take your pants, you know. So you bear ass it and put your bare ass onto your kitchen floor. Does it have to be, linoleum floor? What about tile? I feel like, I feel like it does. That's why I have. I haven't done it on. I ain't done it at my new house. What I do is that so our, well, it ain't really home yet. No. No. I ain't christened it. So our bed, our bed is right
Starting point is 00:54:02 by the wall where our shower is. And when I'm in there in the morning, I put my, like, I'll bend all the way over, put my hands on the guardrail or whatever, and put my asshole. You got to spread your cheeks, too. Just put my asshole up on the, uh, the shower wall and fart and it'll vibrate in like amber can hear it and stuff. And that hits for me. But I haven't done it. He puts his hands on the quote unquote guardrail. Yeah. You got to spread your butt first. On the tile and farts so that Amber can hear it. Yeah. And I've, I've 100% shit on my wall because of that before.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Did you ever shit on the linoleum? No, I never did. Because that's when I was, I hadn't done that since I was like really a kid. That was like a grandmama house thing because she had that linoleum kitchen floor. And I had more like control over my constitution. walk in, you're just pants around your ankles on her linoleum, just shit and everywhere. She, no, I always knew where she was. This is just the most.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And so that means you just did it for yourself. Well, of course. There was no audience. I mean, I bet it's crazy as insane as he is publicly and with other people around. I still bet 70% or better of what he does to hit is only for him. Corey, you have no idea. Corey, you ever tasted your own gum? Yeah, one time.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Me too. I was about to say word, y'all ain't done that? One time. I haven't. I just assumed it tastes like it smells. Yeah, Drew wiped his... It don't have much of a taste. We have to explain that.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah, we can't just leave that out there. Drew was in... We was both drunk. Drew came to my hotel room in D.C. in a bathrobe with some pizza while drunk one night at like 1 a.m. And he was sitting over there eating the pizza and like, you know how Drew is. He's an animal. He's very sloppily eating this pizza.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And there's a towel in the floor there. And so he's intermittently picking that towel up and just rubbing his whole open mouth on it. Wiping his tongue off and stuff. Just like he's got it all over himself. And then I realized, you know, I realized immediately, and then 10 minutes later let him know that that was my cum rag that he'd been mouthing the whole time.
Starting point is 00:56:28 But I just always assume that it tastes like it smells. Is that not the case? It smells like walnuts to me. It smells, I mean, no, it smells like Bradford pear trees because those trees smell like cum. Who's been coming on them trees? It's very basic, so it has like a bleachy smell, in my opinion. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Bleach? No, it really does. What is wrong with your body? No, it's, cum is extremely basic. Yeah. And bleach is like the most basic shit there is. It has like a bleaching quality. I believe that, but there's no bleachy smell in my mind.
Starting point is 00:57:00 It doesn't smell like bleach. Both cum and bleach have a quality to it that's like basic, I guess. It's like a, yeah. He knows what I'm saying. This is not a me thing. You're smiling and making a weird face. I'm making a weird thing. I'm making a weird face because the sentence you said both bleach and cum have a very basic quality to them.
Starting point is 00:57:24 They do. Because vaginas are acidic. This is all ridiculous. Is that real? Yeah. What you just said? Viginas are acidic. Cumb is basic.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So it bounces. I'm saying that I completely believe the chemical point that you're making. But I in no way smell bleach. Bleach is super bleachy. Because bleach is extremely bad. I don't know how else to say it other than what I said a minute ago, which is that I'm not. saying that come smells like bleach i'm saying both come and bleach have are similar have this similar smell smell aspect that's part of their olfactory profile right i go i get it of what makes
Starting point is 00:58:06 them smell the way they do right and i'm assuming it comes from being very basic right have in common i'm not saying they smell the same i disagree but you know i also can't eat cilantro Like, I don't have a good palate. I will say, I think I've tasted, you know, more cum than y'all, clearly. Clearly. Oh, yeah, you've definitely tasted more cum than anybody I know. Corey? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I mean, is your cum the only cum you've ever tasted? Yeah, for sure. So, I don't know how to circle back to this. It's going to be very tame and stupid. Circle jerk back to this, you know what I'm saying? Ayo! By the path we've laid. out here, but I also don't want to not finish
Starting point is 00:58:53 it just because I kind of did start it. I was watching Stranger Things, high as hell. There's the same where they're kind of on the run, like literally on the run. Sweaty, running through the forest, whatever. They come upon a, like a 7-Eleven situation. They find a main
Starting point is 00:59:10 road and there's a gas station. They go in the gas station and they all crack open sodas and start drinking them. And, you know, I'd be on message boards and shit. I don't post, but I'll be reading discussion, communities, Lurker. Fan communities.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I'm a lurker. And some people were saying they were like, they're bitching about product placement. And they were like, it's so ridiculous that these people who are like sweaty, tired, all this, that they go into a gas station and open up a fucking soda instead of a bottle of water. And then another person got, well, these weren't, these actually weren't the kids. These were the adult characters. But then another person goes, he goes, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:59:48 Because the show's set in the 80s. He was like, just so you know. bottle water did not used to be a thing like in gas stations he was like you couldn't get a bottle water and then I started thinking about like even in our lifestyle
Starting point is 01:00:03 you remember Jim Gaffigan had a bit about how stupid bottle water was right when it came out he was like I bet we could sell those idiots water you know like we're making bottled water how dumb do I sink the Americans up I guess I'll try it
Starting point is 01:00:18 you know like that whole bit it's more watery than water Yeah, that was in like the mid-90s. So like, it wasn't that long ago that bottle water wasn't a thing. When bottle water became a thing, it was like a joke universally. But like, think about now not being able to get a fucking bottle of water on a road trip or something. Or when you go into a gas station or a store, like, that just seems insane. It's a version of what Corey was saying earlier about not, you know what I mean, like how everything changes?
Starting point is 01:00:48 That's just one of those little, like you think about, I don't know how people got anywhere before. the age of GPS, shit like that. But, like, that's one that it's... That's one that had never occurred to me. It was like, you couldn't get a fucking bottle of water. You know, like... But people with skinnier. Yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:01:04 It don't make no sense. It's weird. No, it don't make no goddamn sense. Well, I mean, but people did drink water, right? They would just go to the bathroom. Yeah, they did, but like... I guess. They did, but it wasn't...
Starting point is 01:01:14 But, like, on road trips and shit, like you, if you wanted water, you had to bring your own fucking jug and shit. But, see, that was the other thing. That, people just didn't think that way about that. Dude, I think bottled water. I guarantee you gas stations, gas station bathrooms, they have not gotten worse since the 80s. There's no way. That's true.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Well, how could any human being walking through an 80s gas station bathroom and being like, I don't want to drink from that particular source? But that's the bathroom. It ain't the water. Like, people didn't get weirded out about water. And probably a lot of places had water fountains. A bubbler. Yeah. But again, right, but then you go, all right, but so you have to go, you get a sip out of the water found, but you're on like a fucking two or three hour driving shit.
Starting point is 01:01:58 No, no, no, you got a bottle with you. I don't think people did that either. So they just didn't drink water? Well, because I feel, I can be correct if I'm wrong here. Maybe that's why they were so racist. If you were in the military, you had canteens and shit, but like the whole carrying your own water bottle with you around, that's like a relatively recent. I can remember that becoming a thing in the past eight years or something. But that was an environmental choice.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I know. I don't think that people used to do that. So they didn't drink water? Not the way we do. I don't think. On my motherfucking life, my grandmother never drank water a day in her goddamn life, and she lived to be 96. I don't know how she did it, but I swear to fucking God that's true. Maybe that's why they were also racist. They're just mad at people because they weren't drinking any fucking water. They're just dehydrated.
Starting point is 01:02:42 My papal was just dehydrated all the goddamn time. We got some older fans. Let Corey know. So, yeah, I'm assuming some people are screaming at their, you know, speakers. Yeah, fill us in. With a sweet tea in their hand. Did y'all's old asses ever drank water? And where did you get in?
Starting point is 01:03:01 Also. Did you dinosaurs drink any water? Part of this is road trips probably wasn't as big of a deal. I feel like they were a bigger deal. I'm sorry. I mean, let me say it differently. Yeah, but it was a big deal because you didn't do it that often. Like that was, right.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I mean, I guess I should say it was a. was a bigger deal because you rarely did them. It was an event. So I bet you would take a big container of water with you because like going to Knoxville was a huge fucking deal. Yeah, I mean, I don't know I'm saying. It's wild to think about. I feel like at least in certain areas,
Starting point is 01:03:35 it's like, I feel like it just water just wasn't around. Really? What? It didn't jogging one of them things. Like jogging wasn't a thing? Yeah, like it just in the 70s, somebody, like it feels like, I think you're right. Run.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I think it... Like, why? Well, even like the military... Marathon goes back to literally ancient... Like, the source of that is that fucking... Yeah. ...who ran the first marathon in 2000 BC or whatever. But we'd be naming shit after old people.
Starting point is 01:04:01 But like... Yeah, I feel like there... I mean, it seemed... It would make sense to me. But people walked around a lot more back then. Well, I mean, it... I could totally see there being a huge stretch of time where mankind as a whole was like... Uh...
Starting point is 01:04:16 Y'all know we don't have... to run anymore right so why would we ever do that you know like for a long time until some some and i wonder oh but it hits for your body and i wonder if obviously if you were running a marathon back then you had to run but i do i also wonder if like the military in the nfl they did things but it was like calisthenics yeah like i don't i don't feel like they was like first run for three miles i feel like it was like yeah and they jumped up on boxes they did calisthenics and marched and stuff i don't think they just ran back in the day much. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:51 They also just didn't let black people play for a long time, so they didn't have to be that goddamn fast, I don't guess. Yes. It's also, you're right. Jog is a word originated in England in the mid-16th century. It may be related to shog. Okay. What a shog, what a shog, man.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I don't know. Shakespeare, Taming of the Shrew. You may be jogging while your boots are green. At that point, it usually meant to leave. Dude, Shakespeare, you know, he just like, and he was allowed to do this because he was Shakespeare said, but he would just, if he didn't have a word that worked, he'd just straight up make up a word. And then that was a word after that. That became a word.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Rappers do that now. And then if you don't know what the word is, they're like, yeah, you ain't with it. You old or you white or whatever. Rappers do do that. You're right. But it's considered like slang now, although that's the thing, Michelle, Shakespeare, right, was back. I think he invented the word slang.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Everybody thinks Shakespeare's just like hoity-to-dy-do, dude. But back then, his plays were for like the middle class, like the rabble-rouser. Yeah, they threw tomatoes. Right. It's literally Shakespeare in that era is where the term break a leg comes from. Go on. Did you know that? This bitch didn't know her line, so he broke her leg.
Starting point is 01:06:13 No, back in those days. So basically what would happen was, is that, like you said, he was doing plays for like, you know, working class folk. It was like the wrestling type shit. And people were, you know, pretty violent back then. Like, we're talking like, you know, imagine the scene from Tombstone where they're all in there doing the play and the cowboys are sitting there and they're shooting their guns in the fucking air and shit. Uh-huh. Well, like, that shit, that shit would go on.
Starting point is 01:06:36 And so at the end of a play, you take a bow, you bend your knee, you break your, that's called breaking a leg. Oh, that's right. They'd say break a leg. They mean, I hope this goes so well that you actually. actually get to finish the goddamn play. I've heard that before. There were, fights just broke out and shit all the time.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Also, Shakespeare only had, I think, around 5,000 words at his disposal, whereas we have just fucking, you know, so many now. Also, Shakespeare invented the name Jessica. Okay. Heard it here last, folks.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Shakespeare... When boxers... In the 60s and 70s is when the word jogging really started to come around yeah before that if you were like a boxer and part of your training was to run three miles they called that roadwork uh-huh so you'd be like i'm gonna do some road work on tuesday and then we're getting on the bags on wednesday yeah you had to have a grisly old dude and a car behind yes yeah i was born to be one a road worker in many ways uh and then jogging the new zealand something i don't know oh the ockland joggers club
Starting point is 01:07:45 someone over there took the word. They didn't invent the word, but they made it popular. And then this American, the Oregon track coach, Bill Bowerman, jogged over there with them and started the joggers club in Eugene, Oregon, and published the book Jogging three years later in 1966. And I'm pretty sure that would be where Nike came from, too, was that joggers club. Because Oregon is where Nike started.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It was the guy who, what's his name? Phil Knight. Phil Knight. was in a club there he might not be like you know the next year I don't remember when Nike was founded but pretty soon after 1966 and it started out with running
Starting point is 01:08:25 shoes. That's when he made the Cortezes I believe if I'm not mistaken it was the Cortez's that started all I could be wrong I need to get a new pair of Cortez I think we need to wrap it up yeah let's go okay
Starting point is 01:08:40 Trey had me look at an hour and 29 seconds 29 seconds seconds. Yeah. Yeah, nailed it. Yeah, I'm real good. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Well, we'll see y'all next time. Skew. And, uh, Skew. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you, God bless you, good night and Skew.

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