wellRED podcast - #129 - Whales Fuck in 3's & The Great American Gun Tragedy
Episode Date: August 7, 2019This week the boys discuss ghost towns, slot machine related moral conundrums, how whales bone, and unfortunately the most recent mass shooting wellredcomedy.com for tickets to shows sponsor this we...ek: TakeCareOf.com (Prom code RED for 25% off!)
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Well, here we are in the studio.
Corey's on his porch doing whatever.
What are you doing?
What do you do when we have podcasts, Corey?
Well, right now I'm up in my office.
Me and Amber.
You know, we've been on a nice little break, so me and Amber actually got the whole house cleaned up and kind of organized the way.
We've been wanting to do it for a while, but I haven't been home to help her.
So I actually have my office completely set up, and I'm sitting in a child's, like, elementary school desk with my podcast equipment sitting on it.
And I'm staring at a bunch of Star Wars pictures that I hung up.
I'm a fucking neck beard, I guess, is really what it pulls down to.
Why do you have a child's desk?
I got it at a flea market so there was there was two of them and they was only $10 a piece
and like I had this like sentimental vision of like my niece my two nieces LJ and Sadie like
you know when they got older they would come over like we'd be watching them and they'd come
over the house and do their homework and stuff so I got these two desks because we have this
well we have this your nieces or nephews will come to your house to do homework and that is
a compliment for the record that's I mean that's
true but we i have like this there's this side room upstairs next to my office that's kind of like perfect
to put a little twin bed in there for like them napping and put all their play toys and stuff so i bought
these desks i was like oh you know maybe if they you know they come over here after school yeah that's
probably more along yeah that's more along the lines of what they'll be doing but surprisingly my
fat ass fits in it and it's uh i don't know it's neat i've been writing at it i've been like
putting my computer on and writing it because it fit you know as you know i have i have like
shut the fuck up i have like fantasies of going to school because i didn't
really do that whole thing.
So like, like this whole, these past two weeks that we've been on break, you can ask Amber,
I've been getting up earlier than, I've been getting up at like 7 o'clock in the morning,
going on a walk and like trying to get some right and done, which I mean, you know,
nothing do and you can't force creativity.
But I've been trying and I've been sitting at a goddamn school desk drinking my coffee,
just like, I did something.
Man, that's, go ahead.
I just, I remember once, I think I've told this on here maybe, so I ain't got to go
the full detail version.
of it, but I remember one time, like back in the day, pre-hit and all that, we were all together
on like a group text or something, and Corey mentioned how he had a, like, a promise to himself
or something that one day, one day he was going to graduate from the University of Georgia or something.
I'm going to do that. And I started laughing. Like, we're in a group.
text or just like
L.O.L. Ha, ha, ha,
or whatever else. But he, like, kept talking
about it. And I was like, I was like, oh,
shit, wait, you're like not kidding.
Yeah, he wants to go back to the
University of Georgia and get a degree. I was like,
you're being serious right now. And I was like,
oh, damn, man, now I feel bad.
Like, I kind of feel like,
uh, and I still plan on doing that.
Yeah, right. I feel like
a sank of coffee and, uh,
cool running. Yeah.
He laughed at Yule Brenner for thinking he was
going to live in Buckingham Palace one day or
whatever.
Yeah.
Dory,
you thinking you can get a degree
is as dumb?
Is that Jamaican dude?
Thinking he could live?
Thinking he was going to live in Buckingham
Palace.
First off, I'm not...
You tiny desk, dumb ass.
I like how you said you felt bad.
And then by the end of the story,
he was way worse.
No, I said that at the time.
Oh, I said that to him then.
Okay, okay.
So that was part of the story I'm retelling.
Yeah.
For the record, I'm not convinced I won't live in fucking Buckingham Palace, neither.
Y'all don't, dude, things are changing over there.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's different than it used to be.
So that's like an okay segue.
Things are changing over there.
Into something that I want to, I got a message from a fan, Corey.
I don't, he said something.
I said something back.
He was funny.
and then he said
my favorite thing on the podcast
is when you guys do exactly
what they,
they being,
I guess like the right wing
or our uncles,
think you'd be doing?
Uh-huh.
And I was like,
huh,
and then the next message was,
you know,
like when you literally smell your own farts.
Oh, yeah.
Like a South Park episode,
and you're just sitting there
drinking coffee
in a child's desk with your Star Wars posters discussing the politics of England
and how you're going to move into Buckingham Palace one day.
I didn't say I was.
I just said it's not.
Go ahead.
I didn't, first off, I will graduate from the University of Georgia.
I may live in Buckingham Palace.
Right, right, right, right.
I'm very aware that that one's still probably a hot drink.
That our uncles would be proud of, blowing shit up.
up, you know, snakes.
But his point, and we keep proving it over and over again, is that, I mean, you're sitting
here fantasizing about getting a college degree.
Yeah, no, I know.
We literally smell our own farts.
We frequently tell stories about staying up late at night to consume art together while
in the nude feeding each other.
Yeah.
I mean, that could go either way.
Not the art part, but you're right.
It depends on what you're watching, yeah.
If it was smoking and the bandit, nobody was fucking Nogas for that.
You know what I mean?
Like smoking the bandit and bull peanut, shit.
I think it's actually a law where I'm from just in my county that if you watch
smoking the bandit, you have to have your shirt off.
Yeah, I mean, it don't really have to be, but sure.
I don't, yeah, I can't think of any other examples of that,
other than to say I feel like we do that thing all the time.
Which thing?
Beak like cartoon versions of ourselves.
Right, but yeah, we've really jumped a shark.
What's that?
I said there are times I feel that me as a person and a caricature of myself,
like I've jumped the shark.
Like the show has, I don't really know who I am anymore.
Right.
I am, I'm attuned.
Like I'm frequently, I fart and smell it in front of other people and think it'll be funny.
And like, oftentimes I'm not in the right crowd.
You know what I mean?
Right.
I'm attuned.
to that in terms of you being the show.
I'm attuned to that in terms of how ridiculous we are.
But you said that.
We start a story and we're like mad that somebody act, you know, like, we're like,
man, this woman got mad at me in public the other day.
And by the end of the story, I'm like, yeah, I guess I was on mushrooms and screaming
at a bush.
I'm attuned to that part of it.
What I'm not, I wasn't attuned to this man pointed it out is just how, you know,
goddamn queer we are.
You know what I mean?
I know, but I'm saying that's part of our.
like thing yeah that's part of our thing so us being like that is still a version of us being
like cartoon versions of ourselves i'm right but that version of it is not one i've realized
or thought about before okay that it's weird to me like how sometimes like our like
because that's the whole thing is like you know we've said before it shows like when we's in
palm beach and that motherfucker hollered at us and drew was like hey buddy i think you're spending
too much time on the liberal part of our moniker you got to forget about the you forget about the red
neck part, you know, we'll come down there and whoop your ass. It goes the other way, too,
whereas, like, I'm constantly, uh, because, you know, I'm a narcissist. I'll be posting
pictures of food, of my food and shit. And I'm always, uh, per my Facebook, uh, fans on the verge of
losing my redneck card because of so, like, you know, the way that I'd be making eggs or
something like that. And it always, I'm like, yeah, but this is the liberal part of me. You know what I
mean? Like that's, that's that, that's that whole, that's the kind of the whole goddamn thing.
Yeah, I know.
remember early on me and you used to catch a lot of shit specifically for drinking red wine i remember
and it yeah and it was always like that it was like you know we're drinking red wine out of a box
over ice like how much more liberal redneck you know does it yeah you want us to be like to me
that's like we're right in the wheel house you know exactly with that the wheel trailer yeah
I mean, I obviously agree with you guys.
I guess it just the metaphor that wasn't a metaphor because it really happened of us literally smelling our own farts.
That tickled me.
Yeah.
To no end.
I wanted to, this is like not related to anything.
It's just a thing I decided the other day I wanted to do this week on the podcast.
Okay.
It's sort of a thought experiment, except according to,
So I saw this on Reddit, right?
According to this, where the source of it, this is a real, like, story or real life example, like with real people.
But for our purposes, it's just a thought experiment that I want both of y'all's perspective on.
Because everybody was sort of torn, like, right down the middle on this.
But both sides of it very much felt like the other side was fucking out of their mind.
And I did, too.
Like, I fell down on one side of it.
And I was like, I don't even know how you could possibly feel the other way about this.
So it's kind of a metaphor for American politics in some ways, but it's just a totally random story.
Is it abortion?
No.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like one of those types of things, but it's just like a specific story.
Well, I said abortion because that's one where I get it.
I get why both sides think the other one's insane.
Right.
Go ahead.
Okay.
So let's say, uh,
Okay, a person has a,
owns a, Corey's still there.
Fuck.
Really?
I, I had a feeling that, I don't know.
No, I'm here.
I'm here.
Oh, okay.
Some bitch was in detention.
I'm sorry, I had it on mute,
and then I put my phone in my pocket to take my dog out of the room
because he was scratching and his collar was making noise.
I'm here, though.
Okay.
So person one owns a antique,
slot machine from like the 40s or 50s that they got from their grandma, step-grandma, who had had it before.
And it's a real operational slot machine from back in the day, meaning like pull arm, fully mechanical, not electronic, whatever, you know, however they used to work.
So it's like a novelty item. They've got it set up in their house.
this person,
this same person
hosts,
has people over,
has a get-togethers,
host parties,
whatever.
And over the years
that they've had this,
this is like a law school question.
Okay.
Over the years that they've had
this antique slot machine,
people come over,
hang out,
and, you know,
people will go and put,
because it's an old one,
it's quarters only.
It takes only quarters.
People put some quarters in,
play it.
Every now and then over the years,
somebody's won, you know, five-ish dollars or whatever out of it.
And, you know, and they keep that or they, you know, play the quarters, don't win nothing and just leave it all in there.
The person has never cleaned out the slot machine, like the money that's in it.
It holds the money in it, you know, unless it distributes it.
Until it gets full or something.
But it hasn't gotten full yet.
Where it pays out the winnings or whatever, but they've never taken the money out.
The grandma said that she never.
had either. They had it, they used it basically the same way. I'm sure they've had fewer parties.
But anyway, going back years and years, this slot machine hasn't been cleaned out and it's been
treated basically the same way. And then one day, like recently, the person's having a party
and someone brings a rando to the party with them. So this guy shows up who's like a friend of a
friend. They don't know the homeowner or anything. Never met them. They're there with a mutual friend of
theirs. Like, oh shit, you got an antique sloppish machine. It's pretty cool. It's like, yeah, it works.
If you want to, you know, give it a shot, it works perfectly fine. He's like, oh, wow, really.
Okay, guy takes a quarter out, puts it in, hits the jackpot and the whole thing empties out
completely. And it's like, 700, according to them, like $700 in quarters.
Oh, man, that was disappointing. Why?
I was hoping it's going to be 10 gram, but go ahead.
I mean, that would be...
Katie the other night did a lot of the math on this,
because that's how her brain works,
and apparently that...
10 grand in quarters would have been a just obscene amount of fucking quarters.
$700 in quarters is like 40 pounds of quarters or something like that.
So anyway, $700 in quarters,
and the guy starts, like, bagging it all up
in like a backpack or whatever,
and the homeowner is like...
you know, oh, I mean, you can't.
That's ours.
Yeah, like, I'm not going to, I'm going to need you to not take literally all the quarters
out of that.
And the guy, and the guy was like, what do you mean?
I hit the jackpot.
He's like, I know, but it's not, it's like a novelty item that's here just to, you know,
for people to play with us when they come over.
It's not, this is not a casino.
And the guy, the guy got, like, really pissed off and ended up leaving without the money,
because the homeowner didn't let them take it.
So he left without the money but was like,
I'm going to get a logger,
I'm going to take you to Small Claims Court,
because that's my money because I want it fair and square,
and you're a fucking asshole and all this,
and left and sort of just brought the whole party down,
and that's where it ended.
So my question to y'all is, like,
who's the asshole here?
Or, you know, what side of this debate do you come down on?
I guess here's my two-part answer.
first off, I, as the home, this is just me, Corey, this is not everybody, this is just my personality.
I would have let the motherfucker have the money just because I'd been like, oh shit, you know, you want it, whatever.
This is a neat thing.
I would have absolutely let him have the money, but also my personality, if I was the one that won it, there's zero percent chance.
I would have taken the money, if that makes sense.
Me too.
Would you have started to take the money?
I said exactly the same thing the other night when I was talking to Katie about it.
I wouldn't have even remotely started to take the money.
I would have started to put it back in the fucking shit.
No.
I would have, it would have never entered my mind.
If I was the guy, not the homeowner, but the guy in that, and that happened to me,
it would never have even entered my mind that I would possibly take the money with me.
Because you were a rando?
No, because it's not a casino.
It's like just a little.
But they let people keep to $5.
What if you had seen that before?
Well, I had.
Now, I just don't think.
There's no way I would take it.
There's no way I would just be like, this is $700 mine and I'm furious.
But I would probably like, if I, I don't know if I was a rando.
I have to think about that.
If I'd seen them give $5, I might be like, let's split it.
But if they said no, I'd be like, okay.
So like, I said exactly what Corey said.
I was like, if I was the dude, I would have no expectation to begin with of actually keeping the money.
But if I own the slot machine, just because I, you know, what am I going to do?
Like a bitch who cares about $700?
No.
Like if some do come over and won that, even if they tried to give it back, I'll be like, no, take that shit.
You know, that's all years now, baby.
I don't need that.
I'll restock it.
I'll restock it right now.
Anybody who, like, didn't need groceries.
Yeah.
Should be that way.
Right.
But neither one of these individuals felt either way about their situation.
Do you think the homeowner had any sort of historical, what's the word I'm looking for?
Precedent.
No, no, no, just like caring about this shit.
Sentimentality.
Sentimental, like some of those quarters.
My bad ball put in there.
Me and Katie also talked about that.
And according to the story they told, that would have been the case.
There should have been at least some quarters in there from, like, way back in the day.
And so, like, I can see that being part of, like, the story of the slot machine.
People come over.
It's like, yeah, that's from 1914.
And some of the, some of the, it's never been emptied out.
And some of those quarters are still in there and all that shit.
And like, they didn't bring none of that up, though.
But like, the, I mean, it sounds like that dude's a douchebag.
And, I mean, they kind of are too.
Like, they should have just gave everybody $10 at the party.
Well, so the, so the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the people in the, the people in the.
Fuck both of them.
The people in the thread about.
about it. This is what I'm saying. It was wild. Like, it was split pretty much 50-50. And one side was like,
well, fuck that guy. What the hell's his, what does he think is going on here? You're not,
you're not running a casino. Like, this is, that's, that's, that's ridiculous that he would even
think that, which that's how I felt. I was very much fuck that dude. But then the other half was like,
no, you are an asshole because you were totally happy to let people come over and put all
their money into your machine and just keep it for, you know what I mean?
Whoever first says, that's my money is an asshole.
Right.
Like, whoever's the first one, do you know what I mean?
Like, I was answering the question about my first thoughts earlier.
But whoever first said, no, that's my, like, when he started bagging it up, that's a weird
move.
I agree.
Maybe he's excited.
So, Drew, but, but though, but legally it's the homeowner wins every time, right?
And I never think about that.
Because like, because people were saying, like, you can't let them take the money.
Because if you do, now it is an illegal gambling operation.
But you are.
But you are allowed to, like, have coconut at your house with money on the table if the house doesn't get a take.
In other words, you can play friendly games.
And as long as it's not organized with the house getting a take with low stakes, that's not illegal in most states.
Now, I'm not saying whatever exceptions are carved out in this hypothetical.
state. See, this is why the law
sucks. There's
an exception carved out
so you don't get your little buddy
poker game crashed by the cops.
And that's good. I think we all agree.
I mean, I think everyone on this podcast
probably thinks gambling should be legal.
But even in the world where people think gambling should
be illegal, most people, most reasonable
people are like, but we should carve out
exceptions for your friendly poker game.
If you bet your buddy 50 bucks
that the balls are going to whip George's ass
and then it happens in a restaurant in Bakersfield,
No one is for you getting arrested for that.
Right.
Does that exception apply here?
I mean, what if the cop came in and they found out you were letting somebody keep $5?
We'd all go, come on, dude.
It's a stupid, this isn't a gambling operation.
Right.
I don't know.
I think since it's not an operation, man, I don't fucking know what the court would do.
I think they'd let the homeowner keep it.
because it was there and to...
I don't know shit about...
I don't know shit about fuck, especially the law,
but it just seems like there's no goddamn legal precedent
to where that man is entitled to that goddamn money.
Well, I'll say it this way.
Back to your little friendly poker game,
which is legal.
In most states, they've carved out an exception for just little...
You couldn't sue somebody for cheating you there, I don't think.
Sure.
Right.
Like, I don't know what...
It's like, yeah, we carved out.
You could have a duel in the street outside and shoot him dead.
Only in the south.
And in Florida, you're required to.
I'm pretty sure like New Mexico and Arizona, that still applies to, right?
Oh, they don't even, it's not even legal to gamble there, so we're not even in the scenario.
I'm just basing off, you know, westerns.
New Mexico should have it to where you are gambling legally at a casino, which you can do there.
And then if you get in a fight with somebody, you have to duel at the casino, and then we can bet on that.
I'd go to that.
Yeah, that would hit.
Speaking of New Mexico and Arizona and old West type shit,
here's another thing.
Me and Katie had a lot of random conversations
before falling asleep last night for some reason.
Ghost towns?
We all know what ghost towns are.
Used to go to one regularly as a child.
Oh, that's right.
There's one close-ish to you.
Ghost town in the sky.
Oh, not the one Andy filmed her movie at.
We didn't even know about that one.
Okay.
On that note, that one's completely made up,
the one Andy made her film at.
The one I went to was both.
Okay.
I don't know what that means.
You can elaborate on it in a minute, but like ghost towns, this got brought up last act.
We were talking about things to do with the boys out here in California.
And she was like, what about like a ghost town?
Like, I bet there's a lot of ghost towns in California, right?
And I was like, I mean like full on like what you think of when you think of a ghost town, ghost town.
I was like, probably not that many.
And she was like, what do you mean?
I bet there's all.
I bet there's all kinds.
And I was like, I don't know.
I feel like I know about those because, like, it just seems, in this day and age,
with people going to Chernobyl and taking fucking Instagram pictures and shit, that, like,
even in the remotest parts of America, that there just wouldn't be all these fucking full-fledged,
old, like, old-timey towns that are still standing but are completely abandoned.
Right.
that you could just show up to and be the only people there, right?
And she was like saying, I think there's more than you think.
And so we Googled, just Googled number of ghost towns in the United States.
And I have more to elaborate on this beyond just the number.
But what do I think the number was, according to Google?
I think it's high.
I think it's high because.
Right, but what does high mean?
Two thousand.
I mean, like, oh, no, okay.
Shit, man.
Hi, man.
I'm going to...
Now, I think 1,800 of them are in eight states.
Okay.
I have more facts on this.
No, Corey...
I'm just saying if you just Google
number of ghost towns in the U.S.
And there's like, it's sourced.
There's resources for it or whatever.
But what do you think the number says?
I'm going to go 475,
which I still think is very high.
You think that's very high, right?
I've said less than 100.
According to Google, it's 3,800, right?
Jesus.
Oh, shit, I thought you said 1,000 for a second.
3,800.
But I looked further into it.
And, like, so I went, I looked up ghost towns in Tennessee, right?
Because I'm from Tennessee.
And it said most of them are in East Tennessee.
It's mining, kids.
And the mountain, right, that type of thing.
But then I looked into the specifics of them with the pictures and shit.
And I don't remember all of them, and you wouldn't have a frame of reference anyway.
But my point is, just using one example, one of, like, numbers, they had them ranked,
and, like, number two on the list was wheat, Tennessee.
Do you know what that is off top of your head?
Uh-uh.
You know, on Oak Ridge, out toward Oak Ridge National Laboratory, right before you get there.
The African burial ground?
Not that.
That's a different thing that's in Oak Ridge.
But on the way of the lab, on the right, there's an old church, like, in a graveyard.
that's like been preserved.
Yeah, the wheat community graveyard.
Yeah, that's wheat.
Okay.
That, it's literally now, it's just a church and a graveyard that like the people, that the lab and
stuff will hold little events at and shit because it's like this commemorates the community
that used to be here before we did all, but like.
Before we've killed them.
But all, but all that there is is this little church that's only still standing because
the government has kept it that way.
Yeah.
That counts as a ghost town.
And some of the other ones in there were like all that's left of it,
if you went there,
is like a fucking chimney from the church building that used to be.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
That shit don't count.
Like when I think ghost town,
I think, like I said, you show up and it looks like the fucking set of deadwood.
It looks like the set of deadwood and no one is there and hasn't been.
That's what a ghost town is.
and I still want to know how many of those are actually out there,
and I bet it's not fucking many.
I feel like, no.
But, like, how do you draw that line?
I understand what you're saying about the chimney being bullshit.
But, like, if there's a full-on mining camp,
there's this old-ass wood building falling down
that absolutely used to be a school.
It's not going to look like what you're talking about,
the set of dead wood, but it was a town.
And there's remnants behind of it.
You know what I'm saying?
I think it's more, more than 200.
I'm back to what you said, though.
Like, how the fuck in this day and age does that even happen?
Right.
Somebody would be exploiting.
If it was cool at all, someone would be exploiting it.
Right.
Right.
It's not cool.
It's just these old dilapidated buildings.
But like in a mining community, not only is it old dilapidated buildings.
I mean, a lot of times you can't fucking hardly live there.
They've stripped it to death.
There's arsenic in the fucking groundwater.
And it's remote as shit.
I mean, there's a lot of remote land in the West, like a lot.
And that was my sort of working theory.
I mean, they could blow up atomic bombs in areas and not, you know, affect people for the most part.
That's how remote areas of the American West are.
So you said, make it cool.
The one I used to go to, it wasn't the one that any shot or movie had.
And that's not a ghost town.
is a completely fabricated old west type town in east tennessee like it was built at like
it's a film location or what i don't know why she could tell you what it's called possum trot
possum trot and it's a fake old west style town that was just built ground up in east tennessee
and like to say there's a lot of horseback riding through there i thought maybe i i i don't do
this anymore but i think maybe once upon a time one theory i have is it was just a camp for people who
ride horses and they wanted
people who ride horses are into that.
You know what I mean? They want to go to old saloon or whatever.
Ghost Town in the sky
is, I think,
a now defunct amusement
park, close to Cherokee, North Carolina
where? There was a legitimate
mining ghost town.
Someone bought it. It was up on a
mountain. We're talking like the 60s.
There's one road up there and the government never fixed
that road. So when the mining
shuts down and people leave,
nothing replaces it.
And they answer your question as to how and why,
even though it's close to civilization,
because it had a shitty road to the top,
and no one fixed that shitty road,
and there was nothing else up there.
Someone does buy it,
refurbishes the building,
puts a gondola lift up to it,
you pay, you get on, you get up there,
and they put on a show for you.
There's like shootouts and shit.
You know, it did hit.
I was a fucking nine-year-old kid.
Loved it.
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Right, that also, because see, there's one of those out
here called, it's called Silver City, California,
and it's a similar type of situation.
Right, yeah, I also
had heard of, and it's similar to what you just
said, and again, like, it originated
as an actual ghost town, but it's been
kept that way, and, like, they make
money off of it by things
you just said, so it's like,
but how long can that go?
Is that a ghost?
You know what I mean?
Have you ever seen that
Abandon amusement Park thing?
No.
Very few of them are in America.
Yeah, no.
There's like a list.
Yeah, yeah.
There's like pictures of ten.
There's a very famous one.
There's a famous one in like Russia.
It's Russia, I think.
I think it's close to Chernobyl.
And it's fucking creepy.
But like, there's a couple of those in America.
And I think to answer your question is like, well, how many, they only last a couple
decades unless they're so remote or you know someone does something different with them right and i guess
and this is like go ahead cori no i was just that goddamn amusement part that y'all are talking about it looks
like uh the the fucking yellow king's place in the last episode of god damn true detective it's creepy
as shit it does um i've also been to uh what's north of fort oglethorpe cori kore chattanooga man
Chattanooga in between them.
Ringgold?
Ringgold looks like a fucking ghost town.
The downtown area, yeah, I can see
the part of it that you're talking about.
At night I could see looking like,
yeah, for sure. That's where Dolly Parton got married there one time.
One time?
Did she get married more than once?
Maybe. That's what I heard. She got married. That's what everybody always says.
Of course, I never fact-checked it.
I mean, I believe you. I just, you said one time.
and then I was wondering out loud if she's been married multiple times.
Actually, well, now that I've said that, I didn't think that she had either.
I'm starting to think that's bullshit.
Yeah, I think she's had one man her whole life, and I'm not entirely sure they're married.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely, yeah.
There's like all rumors that they've had an open relationship.
Right.
And with like all sexes, right?
Yeah.
In all directions.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She wild.
She is wild.
Remember when, well, this is nothing like that.
mind made the wrong ban incest and now we're accusing dolly partner of polyamory um no man
she got she got married to carl dean 46 years ago in ringgold nice so it was the one time in ringgold
hits yeah yeah it does hit well we've been hey joe did you know that wales fucking threes
go on you mean like the trinity killer or shit like they fuck one person they fuck two other people
or like they always have threesomes.
They always have threesomes,
but it's not like the hittinkind kind you'd imagine,
like, there's...
Two chicks.
It takes two.
I just meant like all three parties
are actively involved in the fucking part,
meaning like it takes two whales to fuck,
but it takes a third whale to keep them from sinking and drowning
while they're fucking.
So imagine...
What?
You just get underneath them behind them?
Imagine being that whale.
You're the bad?
It's like the neck beard of whales.
You know what I mean?
Always the bad, never the, you know.
Quick shameful story.
I've seen that happen at a Percocet party before.
Okay, quick shameful story.
I was hanging out with Tate, SIG-Up at UT Martin when he was in college.
I rode to U.T. Martin with some SIG-ups at Tennessee Tech.
went down to Tennessee Tech and partied that night with them
and then we were going to leave the next day.
We left the next day, went to the Siggett party,
I was getting to know those guys.
I did not know them that well at all.
One of the dude's name was Stro,
which what that rhymes with might lead you to believe what's bad,
although he was a sway for sure.
Anyway, end of the night, the next night,
he's dancing with some girl.
I woke up and like, hey, whoever said we were,
you know, whoever the driver was was ready to go,
we got to go.
And this girl was hanging on him.
And he was like, here, dance with her.
I started dancing with her.
I was like, all right, cool.
And, I mean, I'm hammered drunk.
Long story short, I end up taking that girl back with us.
It happened in the next 10 minutes.
And I was pretty impressed with myself.
Like, damn, how'd I do that?
Until I got to the car and discovered that Stroh had also gotten a girl to go home with him,
he just had decided, after making out with one girl in the dance for all night,
that he wanted to go home with a different girl.
So he did.
Went back to the hotel.
There's like six dudes in his hotel.
And like this chick's trying to make out.
me and I'm not super comfortable with that or whatever.
I mean, yeah, she might have blew me, but that's not the point at all.
That's really very much a side story and I felt guilty about leaving that part out.
The point is, at some point I wake up in the middle of the night to noise and I look over
and Stro is fucking this girl in the dark.
I can't really like see that well, but he definitely has his leg up on his fat as hell
friend's belly as leverage as his fat as hell passed out friend is snoring like a
motherfucker.
Yeah.
We wake up.
Is that a cow?
We wake up the next day.
We wake up the next day.
You know, he tells her by or whatever.
She leaves.
He's got glitter all over him because she had body glitter on.
He goes and gets in the shower to get the body glitter off of him.
He comes out of the shower in a towel, you know, chest exposed.
And he's like, man, I still get this fucking glitter all over me.
And the fat guy goes, yeah, but.
Why do I got it on my belly?
And I lost my fucking mind laughing.
Wellsby supporting people when they fuck.
Yeah.
I go back to my previous question.
Is that a crime?
Because that feels like it could be.
No.
You know, okay.
I mean, I know that nobody was going to court over it.
You mean, you mean did they assault the fat guy?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm saying like, if it was a fat girl.
At what point are you in it?
If he was a fat girl, wouldn't that be a crime?
It wouldn't be sexual assault if that's what you're asking, in my opinion.
But if you're in the middle of fucking...
Yeah.
That's an assist.
And you push the fucking...
You just push off. You pushed the fucking on, too.
You didn't...
No.
An unconscious...
They weren't...
They weren't...
No.
Pause.
They weren't fucking on his belly.
But...
Stroh was an assist.
Parts of the...
Stroh...
Parts of the fuck...
Uh-huh.
...were hoisted upon.
on him while he was unconscious.
Well, if he was a fat girl...
I disagree that parts of the fuck was hoisted upon him.
Don't you think it would feel different?
The fuck was very much happening beside him.
And the last thing I'll say is he was definitely awake when they started.
Like, it wasn't like Stroh brought this girl into a bed where his buddy was passed out.
They all got in bed and fat boy just went to sleep.
Yeah, that's what fat boys do at fuck party.
No amount of fucking will keep you up.
No.
Just wake up.
Now that I think about it, like a goddamn donut.
Not that I think about it.
This is the exact opposite of whales.
Because they, like, are helping their boy out, giving an assist.
They're very awake.
They're doing most of the work.
Right.
Now, is it reciprocated?
Like, immediately?
Or is it just like a, is that their social contract?
Somebody.
No.
Whales?
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
right
yeah
put that on your
yeah exactly
yeah
yeah
I've been
I've been I've had my knee in your belly
for about five minutes
just working this 24 year old back into this old girl
so you know if you'll have it
here you go
that's a that's a gypsy speedboat song
somebody jerk out fat boy off
I just think it's super beautiful that the whales are helping each other.
Yeah, but no, you said it reciprocated.
You meant by the whales, right?
My understanding is no.
Not immediately.
That's not how it works.
But like at some point.
It's like if somebody let you in when traffic, what?
It's just super funny to me that we heard Trey tell this story.
You're like, oh, that reminds me of that time this old fat boy got fucked on.
I mean, I see that.
Whales getting fucking.
I do too.
I do too.
Two whales always fuck on top of a third whale.
His fat boy got fucked on.
His name was third whale.
Third whale.
How about that?
Yeah.
That's good.
I'm in.
Third whale.
I'm fucking in.
That's so great.
Do you know how we let each other, if we're nice, you know, you're merging?
We go every other one.
I think that's how whales fuck.
It's like, it ain't my turn today, but it will be one way.
Yeah, I don't know the specifics.
But in like any given one session, there's no reciprocal.
They don't like switch out roles.
There's the two that are fucking and then the bed whale.
And the bed whale is just the bed whale.
Always a bed well, never to fuck well.
Exactly.
Oh, God damn it.
Sarah, please cross stitch us three, three,
whales fucking on one of them goddamn
what's them things?
Mammal pictures.
So in circles.
What I've always called.
Sowing circles.
There you go.
Man,
I hate to do it.
You're going to transition from that into,
all right.
Yeah,
well,
I was going to do it when we were
There's really no way around it on our show,
honestly.
I was going to do it when we was talking about
shootouts in ghost towns.
Yeah.
And that felt like,
yeah,
fuck, man.
And then you were about to do it.
Then I was like,
Hey, Joe, do you know Wales fucking three?
Well, this is going to be a harder segue, but I'll find it.
My first sex party, I didn't even know that's what I was going to, and neither did the guy asleep.
Yeah, man.
First of all, obviously, fucking sad and terrible, and we're not trying to be flippant about it.
My question, though, is, do you think, I'll preface it by saying I do.
I think tides, and I can't believe I'm saying this, are starting to turn.
And maybe I've just echo chambered myself on social media and in my life and moving to California to where I believe that.
But it's not that I don't think.
We're talking about guns.
Yes, we're talking about guns.
I've seen Republican congressmen say this shit in the past couple days, so it's not an echo chamber thing.
Right.
From, in my opinion.
There's, this is obviously anecdotal for sure, but I still think that it's indicative.
Also, I feel like, I don't know which thing I want to say Thursday.
First, I feel like the actual feelings of most people have been widely misrepresented for a long time in this debate anyway.
Yes.
But I mean ties are changing in Congress.
So, like, when I was in Tennessee for two weeks at the beginning of the summer, when we were in Wayne County, where Katie's from, one day we're at Katie's house on the porch and her uncle comes over.
And it's her most red-ass uncle.
and he's drinking tequila and he's just being a 60 year old red-ass uncle, you know, as hell.
Mad about being a fuckwell.
Talking about all kinds of shit.
And but then like guns get brought up and immediately in my head I'm like, oh, fuck.
Because, you know, they all know I'm a liberal queer, right?
Obviously.
So like, I'm immediately like, oh, here we go.
But then he says, you know, he brings him up and he's like, I mean, you know, Tray.
He's like I hunt.
I've hunted my whole life.
I got guns.
Yeah, I've always had guns.
And I, you know, ain't nobody going to take my guns, all this shit.
And he's like, but I don't need a goddamn assault rifle.
And I don't know why anybody ever would.
There ain't no reason for that shit.
And then he further said, he was like, the only thing, the only thing wrong with buying a gun in this country is it's too goddamn easy to do it.
and I was like, you know, I weren't expecting, I weren't expecting that out of this particular old boy.
But like, I know like my friends in Salina, again, I'm the liberal queer, they'll bring it up to be like, I just don't know why you think I shouldn't be able to own like a, you know, my hunting rifles or whatever.
And I'll be like, I don't think that.
Kobe, like most people don't.
Like I, I just think that there are plenty of people in this country.
you not among them
who ought not be able to get a goddamn
gun so easily and then find out
they agree with you on that
they're like oh well yeah well them sure
and it's like well that's all
that's all anybody's actually saying
it's just been
again misrepresented
to both sides
I think by like
the politicians and NRA mostly
and the lobbyists who make the politicians
misrepresented as such
but I think 90% of people in this country
are really not that far apart on what they think gun laws should actually be.
Why?
No, I agree.
And like a lot of those people still try to say, well, yeah, well, like, you know, you get an assault rifle in the hands of somebody like that.
It's obviously dangerous.
But like, me, I'm responsible with mine.
And then it's that, it's that Jim Jeffries bit.
He's like, that's the thing about crazy people.
They don't know they're crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, everybody thinks, oh, no, I'm, I'll be okay with my gun.
And then, you know, somebody comes and takes your fucking.
coil from you and you get pissed off and then there you go.
Can't be having that.
No.
Why what?
Why?
If it is changing.
Why would it change now and not when literal babies got killed in the school?
Well, when that happened and nothing changed at that time, I was like, well, nothing literally
ever fucking will change then.
I said that too.
So that's why I'm asking.
Well, dude, I think it's just like straws on a camel's back situation.
I mean, I mean, it just keeps fucking happening more and more all the goddamn time.
And at a certain point, you can't fucking deny it or ignore it anymore.
This is, I don't know if I believe this, but a theory.
One thing I thought was that picture of the guns spelling out Trump.
Yeah.
I think some of those Republican senators felt that more.
you know of like i gotta be on the opposite side of this
and then when the next day and you know i would be an asshole not to acknowledge
that the next day shooter apparently was super leftist
was like angry about climate change and how nobody's stopping it
was you know spoke hashtag wise on twitter about like anti-fascist stuff and how you know
the only good nazi's a dead Nazi
I'm not sure I haven't seen anything yet that says that that's what he felt he was doing that day,
was killing Nazis, but maybe he did, which leads me to another question I'd like to get into in a minute.
But what I'm getting at now is maybe some of those senators see this as an opportunity.
And this is disgusting, by the way.
Like, little babies ain't enough, but now if I can position myself to be anti-gunned but still win votes or whatever,
you know, maybe now I see a way to do that.
And that is disgusting, but if that's what it fucking,
takes, I don't give a shit.
I mean, you know what I'm saying?
Well, you're saying
whatever gets them to the other side.
You're not saying, just in case anyone's listening,
misrepresents what you're saying.
You're not saying, if people dying is what it takes,
that's not what you need at all.
No, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
No, no, no, absolutely not.
I'm saying is that if we are fine,
like, I hope that we're getting to a place in this country
where it seems advantageous
to put yourself on the side of anti-mass murders
as a politician.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if I'm, if, if, if the politician truly in his heart doesn't really believe that it's about the guns and mental illness and what the fuck ever and he's actually only going to entertain, uh, common sense, gun control to get votes, I don't give a fuck.
Like, that's fine.
Like, if he's doing it for self-motivation, as long as it gets done, I don't give a shit.
Like, I agree with you.
That's a disgusting stance to take.
But if that's truly what they're doing, fuck it.
Let it go in our goddamn favor once.
I mean, yeah, I agree with it.
that but what's the
the other part of it
I guess from about
we haven't discussed this
I guess that well like this
as far as I know that's the first
as far as I know well as far as I know
this is the first one we've had
well do you count
I feel like
if you're like just drawing the
second there was that guy in Dallas who shut up
a police station killed a bunch of cops
the Black Lives Matter guy
yeah I mean that has to be
if you're drawing the line down
the middle of right and left you like you like you had to put that one on the left and there was the guy in
virginia who shot up the republican softball game yeah well what i was going to say this country's so
fucked up it's like it's crazy um but that's the thing though it's like obviously and we were
talking about this on the text of the anybody who would do who would actually go through with
anything like this is like totally fucked in the head yeah regardless yes but i think that we got to be
careful when we talk about that because as so many
people have pointed out, every country has
mental illness problems and they don't have this problem.
It's not just, you know, it's...
That's not what I meant. I meant when you're talking about
dividing them among like political lines
or whatever. It's like, anyone
who would take that, take that
step and actually follow through with it
is demonstrably a fucking lunatic.
Right. My dad's a Republican
and he wouldn't even slap somebody that
disagreed with him, so like I'm going to go that
far. But, I mean, I do feel like
their their rhetoric for the most part is more inclined to radicalize a fanatic of any
violently violently specifically it's more inclined to make somebody land on I'm going to kill a bunch of
people and that's what I need to do that's my question you are correct or you have been
historically and not just historically in the last two decades is that changing
what, like the left is radicalizing people now?
Is the left becoming more apt than it had been in the past to do that?
If so, why?
And what do we do about it, if anything?
Because, I don't know.
Because, yeah, you mean because, like, they've been calling us pussies for 100 years or whatever?
Well, because of Antifa, for example, because of Black Lives Matter, for example,
because of groups of people who, by the way, I happen to agree with when I read what they write down they say they believe in.
because of them
you know taking more extreme measures
to defend themselves as black people
to fight fascists or whatever
let me give you my Antifa thing
I heard so many people that I like
on both sides of the political aisle
talk about Antifa like they're crazy
these kids are playing dress up
these anonymous people come and they shut shit down
and there's violence that follows them everywhere they go
and I read that and I look up videos and all this
because I had to I mean I had an argument with my 13
year old nephew about this, where he was like,
Antifa did all the violence in Charlottesville.
I had to show him videos
of the
Tiki Torch people
beating the fuck out of
a Black Lives Matter activist who was also
Antifa with a stick. And it was
disgusting to watch. And I hated
showing that to a 13 year old, but I was
terrified of my 13 year old who's
super pro guns, who's
always on the internet, whose favorite word
to call me is LibTard,
getting fucking radicalized.
Yeah, right. No, yeah.
But I didn't want it, but I don't want him going the other way.
I guess I am having my own existential, not meltdown, but question to you guys.
My experience with Antifa was I wanted to see State Senator Eddie, what is he his last?
Fuck.
He was running in Knoxville against the co-sponsor of the Don't Say Gay Bill, not Stacey Campfield, but the other guy.
He had no shot and he lost badly.
But he had had two events shut down by Nazis because he wrote as part of his campaign plan a very pro immigration policy for his area.
Basically he was like, we'll make this place a haven.
And then Nazis shut down his next two events.
They came there, they bullied him, they wouldn't let him speak, they wouldn't let him walk to the podium.
So the third time, he was supposed to speak in downtown Knoxville, these Antifa kids showed up.
And my experience was, these are just young people.
they didn't even
I talked to them outside
I sit there and smoke cigarettes
with some of them
some of them didn't even like Eddie's policies
Drew just was one of them
like Drew showed
I got to know him
I was talking to him
Drew down there like
leading the fucking charge
there was no charge
what they did was they set up a perimeter
there were Nazis in the area
like they were like
yeah they're over there
and basically was like
you're not coming this way
you're not shutting him down the day
and also for the most part
They looked like a fucking anemic sex club.
Like they had stringy hair.
They weighed 100 pounds.
They were probably fucking vegan.
And I'm looking at this.
And I'm going,
these are the people that some people are telling me are crazy
that are causing more division in this country.
Like on that day,
I felt like they were fucking heroes,
preventing literal Nazis from shutting down a guy
who wanted to talk to people.
When the cops wouldn't.
I mean, Eddie told me,
I tried to get the cops.
Yeah, they want to know part of this.
That, when they do that, when that's their primary purpose is to prevent, you know, the Nazis from stopping a lefty guy from talking and that type of thing, then fine.
But they also have numerous times across the country, like, shown up to a thing where a all right person is speaking publicly.
And they want to shut that.
And they show up to that.
and want to shut that down and that and which is fine protesting or whatever but i'm saying they
oftentimes show up and are doing it like they're they cross a line with it like i give me an example
and then let me ask you a question that dude in uh that Asian guy in Oregon who got the fuck beat out
of him by a bunch of antifa people he didn't get the fuck beat out of him he got he looked like he got
the fuck beat out of him I saw the pictures of him he looked pretty fucking rough it was his eye right
he got hitting the eye i mean he looked like he had been had the shit beat out of it right
you should look into that guy
but that aside
I hear what you're saying
I'm just saying I feel like
Martin Luther King
proved
that
doing
that nonviolence
and all of that
is ultimately the most effective way
to like see the change
you'd want to see
I'm not losing any sleep over Nazis
getting punched in the face
I don't give a fuck about that
that's fine
when that happens
I'm saying
I don't think that should be the aim of any arm of the left or anything,
because I don't think that it's ultimately as effective.
I'm not arguing.
As going about it, you know, the right way.
I'm not arguing any of those points.
It's just so easy for them to, I mean, you know, when we get out of control like that,
and even though they're not always right, it's just easy for them to go see,
y'all are fucking as violent as these other motherfuckers are,
so what's the goddamn difference, which I know the difference,
but they can spin it that way.
But these questions, they're not binary.
This isn't a yes or no thing.
I don't disagree with anything you said, Trey,
except maybe that last part about change,
because I don't think it's fair to just lay the civil rights moving at the ground of Dr. King.
I mean, Malcolm X had a lot to do with that,
and he was very much the opposite way.
But that aside, sure.
I can put that aside, whatever.
You're right when you said,
if you show up to shut down an alt-right speaker and then that turns violent, that's probably
not effective to win the hearts and minds of, you know, Iowans who are going to vote or
people or young kids who are about to become the new leaders of this country. But let's go back
to what we were just talking about, about what you said, and I'm not trying to like law you
and turn it on you. I agreed with you. I feel this way, too. This is my existential issue.
We just talked about how the right is radicalizing people. What does that?
the fuck are we going to do about it?
What are you saying?
Radicalize our own people to fight their radicalized people?
Because I ain't with that.
I don't, what I said was, what I said was anyone who would take the full step of shooting a bunch of people to prove some kind of point they have in their mind is clearly a fucking lunatic.
And I think lunatics are more susceptible to the rhetoric of the right specifically.
what I don't think we should do is like
try to
balance those scales.
I don't understand what you're mean.
We shouldn't be trying to
to like target.
Like we should figure out how to radicalize lunatics.
No, I'm not saying that at all.
Okay, well, I don't follow them.
I'm saying that you're talking about an example of them like,
you know, that dude got into a skirmish.
But like the violence that already started that day.
But again, fuck that example.
I'm not arguing that you show up and you beat people up.
I guess I'm asking, do you not go protest, Milo Yacinopoulos, where the fuck his name is?
Do you just, I mean, I'm sincerely asking, do you just say, fuck it, let them have their meeting and we won't go and we'll hope for the best?
Or do you go there and protest?
I'm asking, genuine.
Because if you go there and protest, even not to start something, something will get started.
There's part of me that definitely feels like I should never say, no, don't protest, because that's one of the great things about this country that we're all.
allowed to do and it works sometimes a lot of the time but at the same time there are certain people
like maybe milo for instance that he gets way more coverage when there is the opposition there you know
what i'm saying like there's part of me that's like all right let's just try it for a little bit if we
ignore a lot of these motherfuckers when they don't have what you know like everybody needs a hill
when they don't have their people there to poke at and and the the people on the internet don't have
other videos of Antify people there throwing shit at them so they can doctor the photos to say,
see, they fucking started it. If we just ignore them, then like, yeah, I don't think they're
going to get the press coverage that they want. It's the tension that gets them the most press
coverage. So I do think there's something there. I agree with that. It's hard to say that completely.
I mean, I think that spectacle is a lot of, explains a lot of Donald Trump being elected.
Without a doubt. Without a doubt. So I agree with that completely.
Like, I don't hardly, like, man, I feel bad about it because it's like my own echo chamber.
Every now and then, like, I'll just, like, mute Donald Trump's name on Twitter for, like, 15 days just to, like, cleanse myself.
And I also don't tweet about him as much as I used to.
And part of it is that, like, sometimes when he does something supremely stupid or dumb or what, like, it's mostly gets coverage because people like me are fucking tweeting about it.
And there's some of it that I'm like, let's just ignore this dumb motherfucker because he wants me.
and the right wants me to get all fucking bent out of shape of it
so they can screenshot my shit and put it on some goddamn
Breitbart blog and say look he owned the libs so like
I go back and forth because it's like it is my responsibility
to, you know, it's everybody's responsibility to speak truth to power
but when it's so goddamn ridiculous it's like look y'all are just wanting a
fucking response that's all your goddamn doing so fuck you and fuck this
and I'm going to ignore it and that's kind of how I feel about the anti-fah shit
half the time well that's certainly how I feel about Trump
I guess the last thing I'll say about the antifoy shit,
if you look at the experience I have,
which is completely anecdotal,
I'm like,
dude, yeah, this is Knoxville, Tennessee.
The cops wouldn't do anything.
You know, this is the same place where that sheriff
was talking about how gay people should die.
Yeah.
Right.
And that's a cop.
And you go to the cops and they won't help you.
And then these kids show up and they're like,
we'll keep them from coming to your event.
And I'm like, that's beautiful.
But that's anecdotal.
And the reason I said none of these questions are binary earlier
It's like
That to me is who Antify was for a little bit in my mind
Until I saw some of the stuff you were describing, Trey
Not that particular example
One of the examples I saw was them just crowding
This old fucking redneck dude in Oregon
And I don't know what happened before that
But they were just antagonizing this guy
You know, they were just begging him to like swing at him
Or whatever anyway
I think that's different
It feels different
What I'm getting at though, Corey.
Like we are the people
and we have to stand up to that particular shit.
Like he has authority.
Right.
Right.
I don't have no goddamn authority.
But what I'm getting that, Corey, is if you've got this group of people who ride around on their bicycles, their fixed gear bikes, and allow a politician to give his speeches, and I'm with it, I think those people are heroic and that's America and that's great.
And they went to the cops and the cops wouldn't help them so they did it on their own.
And there was no violence that day for the record.
but the story of that and the cult of that,
because that's what it will become,
is going to attract crazies, like you said, Trey.
Right.
I just don't think that, like, violence should be included as part of the...
I never argued for that.
The goal.
I never argued for that at all.
I was bringing up that violence is going to happen no matter what.
Right.
When you're dealing with...
Right, and I feel like sometimes...
And that's going to attract our own crazies.
And I feel like sometimes...
You don't want daddy say, don't start a fight, but fuck.
and finish it. I mean, if you're out there trying to be
peaceful, but then somebody throws it. Okay, and let's say
right, let's say that's literally becomes
Antifa and the left's
motto. Like, they literally put that in their bylaws.
It's still going to attract
people
who show up hoping to
just show up just to wish that a
motherfucker would. Right.
Yeah, absolutely. And I don't think there's a way
around me. I agree with you.
Yeah, I agree with that.
That's an existential... I don't think we should just
take their shit, but I don't
But I think I have, I just feel like sometimes some anti-fah groups or the equivalent are showing up, like, hoping that some shit pops off.
Like, to the extent of like even just basically starting the shit themselves.
First of all, that almost, that almost has to be true.
But second of all, fuck groups, individuals.
Like, there could be a group where certain percentage of them feel one way and the other percentage.
My point is simply, or the question I guess, is, what do you do about that?
Sincerely.
Yeah.
Because it's like, oh, well, then you shouldn't be organizing.
No, take it back to the story I told.
If they hadn't organized that day, in America, quote-unquote, land of the free, a guy who was legitimately running for office wouldn't have been able to give a speech.
And the police weren't going to do anything about it.
Right.
At least that's what I've been told.
Maybe that part was why.
Yeah, I mean, we shouldn't outlaw them or nothing.
I'm just saying I philosophically disagree with them some.
time just depending not like at an elementary level or a fundamental level anyway i'm saying i think
it just gets like a i don't know if it used is the right word either way we like we like literally
have to stop now okay because we only have the studio until right now so we got to shut it down
we can continue this next week if you don't i don't know if i do okay well either way well unfortunately
i'm sure it'll still be god damn relevant next week without a doubt well thank y'all for listening
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