wellRED podcast - #13 - Andrew Jackson, Civil War Monuments, and Michael Vick!

Episode Date: May 3, 2017

On this episode the boys sit down in their hotel in Columbus, Ohio to discuss Trump's remarks about The Civil War, how ALWAYS find a way to complain about anything, and whether or not we will ever see a Hitler-themed restaurant.Subscribe, share, and leave us a review!For tickets, merch, and to subscribe to our newsletter, go to wellredcomedy.com SKEEEEWWWW!!

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Enjoy this conversation with all the idiots in a hotel room. Love you so much. Uh, skew. Well, well. Ski. Woo! Well, we're rolling at any time. What did Andrew Jackson say?

I mean, what did Trump say? A lot of shit. A whole lot of crazy shit. No, it was Trump. and he was basically insinuating that Andrew Jackson wasn't really all about the Civil War. In fact, he was, like, not for it when in fact. He was anti? Yeah, but which said he, uh, he said he had like, he said something like,

he was an intense guy, but he had a very big heart. He had a very big heart. The dude, what, killed all the Indians. All of them. But also, yeah, he was like, you know. Had that bird that curse people out. What was it exactly? They had to be kicked out of his funeral, his bird, they had to remove his bird from his

funeral because it wouldn't stop cussing at people i mean that hits you dude that hits from a lot of andrew jackson stories hit for me yeah if he's except for all the genocide as corey says in his in that one bit if he was a character in a quentin tarrantino movie he'd be awesome to be fair if trump was a character in a novel that wasn't going to murder me that'd be awesome without a doubt i just whatever 12 year olds play in the simulation right now is killing it yeah but like we talked about this before with andrew jackson like to me he's like he's like Like, he was so insane and, like, also we're so far removed from him now that, like, he's, I don't know. Like, I almost, in my mind, he almost is, like, a fictional character.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, the way that I look at him. Yeah, man, Genghis Khan. Everybody talks about Genghis Khan being awesome. We nagged stuff after Genghis Khan. The way he changed the war game was like, here's what we do. after we win the battle, we murder everybody.

Yeah. Dude, you reminded me of something else I want to talk about. We were talking about it in the hotel room the other night. I was reading through this, like, thread on Reddit about, like, biggest mistakes in history. And there was, like, seven different, don't fuck with Ganga's stuff like that. Don't fuck with Ganga's Khan story. Like, what do you mean? I was looking up Andrew Jackson's shit.

I didn't even hear what I was. Like, we'll be in the hotel room, you know, like me and you on ESPN or masturbating or whatever. Both for me. Or, you know, on Reddit. so we can learn more about ESPN and masturbating. And Trey is just on subreddit's about what was it now, the seven ones? The greatest mistakes in history. Oh, yeah, he does do that.

He absolutely does do that. That's fine. No, it's fine. Are you like laughing at the nerd right now? Because that's happening. No, I mean, kind of like. Fatt nerd. Part of me thinks you're nerd.

The other part of me is like, I should really, you know, look at more interesting things when I'm by myself. Masturbating. Because as y'all know, I follow John Tesh on Facebook. and often take quizzes. So, yeah, I don't know. Like, I read Wikipedia pages. Honestly, I think, now that I think about it, like personality-wise, you and I are similar,

we read a lot of the same books, I just can't figure Reddit out. I'm just old and dumb, man. I'm not good at it. I'm just not a real millennial. I'm like, because we've talked about that before, too, I'm almost 33. I'm on the edge anyway of being a millennial.

I don't get Reddit. I get on there and I get confused. I start clicking stuff. I lose myself in the threads. Even though, like, just because you're on the edge of being a millennial anyways, but then there's also, in my opinion. Just me being on the edge? Well, yeah, but like, even with me who's not as close to the edge as you are,

but, like, there is that, like, the two different NWOs of millennials. Do you know what I'm saying? The light and the red? Well, like, when I read a wolf pack. You're goddamn right where the wolf pack. But, like, for the record, Reddit aside, I'm absolutely the same type of millennial y'all are. I know.

I know. I'm just like, well, that's how we started here was a dividerer. I'm not the other type of millennial at all. saying that I can't understand Reddit. I really get on there and I get annoyed. Like I get lost in the threat. This dude's respond to this dude. Where are we at?

Yeah, my thing is that I left that shirt at your goddamn house. Damn it. I wonder where I got this. Yeah, Nat got it for me from my engagement. And I was so pissed at myself because I couldn't find it. So I left it at your house. Sorry, guys, it sounds like there was some sort of glitch. But what happened was Tray's wearing this sweet bitter southerner shirt,

Bittersothera.com. We love them to death. And Corey apparently left it at a lot of. his house and Trey how'd you not know where it come from? I get given gifts. I hit. Okay guys, Tracy's such a divin now.

He apparently forgets the gifts that he's given. I thought somebody gave me this. But you had forgotten. Oh, that hits. But you had forgotten. Well, I get drunk a lot too, Drew. Hey, I'm siding with both of you on this. You because you're shitting on Trey, but Trey because I totally do that all the time, too.

And I don't get near as many gifts as you do. Well, clearly, I forgot a gift. That is a gift that I'm in. you're literally wearing a gift that I forgot. Yeah. Oh, that I do really love. And I was like,

oh, fuck, I've lost it. Okay. Well, we are absolutely all over the place right now. Okay. Other than this, this is a little side step,

but we're doing pretty good because we're talking about Andrew Jackson as this insane character. We're going to circle back to what Trump said. You were talking about Genghis Khan. Right. Because. So,

and I said on this thread about the greatest mistakes in history, like seven of them were different, don't fuck with Gangus Khan stories. People's mistake was that they had fuck with. It was that they fucked with Gangus Khan and he raped all their people to death. Like, rape them out of existence, you know? And like you said, it's weird because

we make everybody in restaurants and put it in, Gangus Khan's fusion cuisine. Okay, first of all, that's also weird. That is weird. But when people talk about him, it's almost like a, like he was so, like that old Eddie Izard bed about, you kill X number of people and we're just like,

well done. Well, no. That's true. It's true. Like, he's like, man, what a bad motherfucker. It's like, dude, he raped and killed millions of people. I think the thing, but he was like there while it was happening. He took part in the killing and into raping.

Okay, well, maybe that. That somehow makes it better. Like, Hitler just sat from his little tower and just exterminated. I was about to ask. Hitler also lost. I was about. There you go. That's two.

Well, okay, y'all went there. Y'all got out ahead of me. I was going to ask if you ever thought. We read it. You did. Yeah. If y'all ever thought. Take that millennial.

That's what we did before the internet. We had thoughts. Like, we're like 800 years removed from Genghis now. Is there any possibility of Hitler becoming that kind of like figure? I don't know if you know this among a lot of people. He already is. Yeah, but that ain't right. Not like retro ideological reasons.

It's not just like where everybody's like, man, what a badass. But Hitler was the enemy of our culture. Ganguscom was not. So what I can imagine in 800. years is an Asian culture, Japan or China, being the top of the world hegemony or whatever, and then just Hitler being a small part of their history books and then being like, God damn, that dude was wild. Dude, actually, I don't know if y'all know this, but like Thailand liking him.

I was about say in some parts of Asia, that kind of already happens with Hitler. Yeah, he's a cartoon character there and they like wear Hitler gear. You think it's because like we're, and we may have just already covered this, but we're so far removed from Genghis Khan. Like with Hitler, there's still Holocaust survivors walking around. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't know, man.

I can't say no. I can't say no. Yeah, I want to. Hitler be like Genghis Khan. And I guarantee you, there's people in Genghis Khan's time could never imagine this happening. So, yeah, why the fuck not? But what I'm saying is the extra thing about the Genghis Khan situation. Yeah, there'll be a restaurant in China.

Yeah. Hitler's brought worse. Yeah, Hitler's hot dogs. Auschwitzels. Yeah. Well, that one's. that went out in the world this is Chinese people doing this, not me.

Well, that's what I'm saying. I think that the extra thing here, here's what I want to know, I guess is a different way to say it. In southern China, are there gangascon restaurants? Yeah, the places where he raped and pillaged.

Yeah, I'd venture to say no. I'd say no. I mean, I have no idea. Yeah, I've never been to the U.S.S.S. Grant National Bank. You know what I mean? We just kind of... Yeah, but he held a $50 bill. Yeah, but...

I know. Well, we have to... to. We didn't make that bill. You know what I mean? We want to still be Confederate money. Yeah, exactly. No, I'm not with you. I'm talking about

like our section, not me as a human being. Corey grew up on Robert Ely Road. Yeah, well, I'm not saying, again, not me, our culture, like for the most part, like, you know, we don't, a lot of us, our people, don't like Grant. That would not be their favorite president.

Right. I honestly never heard anyone talking about. I can imagine growing up. Yeah, exactly. They ignore the fuck out of them. He don't hit. That's not what I mean. I mean, like, what I imagine happens sometimes in your town around the Civil War days and all that. There's a lot of talk about the war, and then people maybe. Who's the one Sherman? I was going to say, Sherman.

I never heard that until I went to college. Really? Well, yeah. Well, just like politics, like, we've talked about how as surprising is Trump did so well in our hometowns, not because people weren't, like, racist or hating Mexicans or whatever. Just like, no one ever gave a fuck. Right. Like in my hometown, people wanted to talk about the county mayor and how he didn't pray enough or whatever. Oh, we did that too.

I'm sure. But there was the... We just didn't have any money. We didn't lose anything in the Civil War. We didn't have slaves. We didn't have money. Right. Yeah, we didn't have reenactments or not like that in Sina either.

It wasn't like that big of a deal. But, like, Sherman was like, he didn't hit for people. No. Lord no. I'm sure if I'm... I'm telling, if I asked, I'm certain that if I asked, like my last, like my... Papaw, how you feel about Sherman? He'd go on a top. This snow and talked about is all I'm saying. Right.

Well, he can burn in hell. Anyway. Andrew Jackson. So, yeah, he's one of those kind of From Tennessee. Figures to me. Yes. Like, he always kind of hit for me. Then I got, then I started realizing all the really fucked up shit he did. Because we're so far removed.

Right. And because history book, listen, growing up, we learned about Andrew Jackson being the, what, 20th president, whatever it was? Six. No, no, that was Lincoln. He was the, we're He was the seventh president, wasn't it? Seventh, that sounds right. Who knows? I mean, it's like, there's no way for us to find out right now.

I learned about that. Learned about being a Tennessean, you know. I'll tell you, the Battle of New Orleans and stuff. He was a war hero. I mean, he did a lot of hitting shit. And then, like, the Trail of Tears was, like, learned about. Seventh President, Chow. Nice.

Yeah. The Trail of Tears was a lesson separate from the Andrew Jackson portion. You know what I mean? It was like weeks later we do the Trail of Tears when we're talking about. talking about Native Americans in our history. And no one, right. They're like, Andrew Jackson signed the bill. And that's all they say.

There's no like real. Anyway, it was later on that I realized like you, how shitty he was, but I blame it on education, not my own innocence or whatever. Yeah, you're right. No, I agree with that. But so he did a lot of shitty things. And to circle back to the original point, Trump was talking by, A, how good of a duty was. But B. Jackson called himself

I don't know how that happened Joe Joe knew what number president he was but can't figure out how this Wikipedia page is working Yeah that's my bad

I was looking I was trying to look up cool Andrew Jackson facts And I was scrolling down The thing And one of the videos Just automatically started playing

I hate that shit And it's an Go figure An old white dude talking about How much Andrew Jackson Hips Yeah

That video That video was like The Andrew Jackson A video So it's like We're gonna do this to you Whether you

It doesn't battery. Trump said not only was he a great dude, but also he was very, very, very against the Civil War. But Andrew Jackson had died, well, like 17 years. And that what you said? 17 years before the Civil War. Yeah. But Trump also, as part of that larger, you know, di tribe said that he's like, I mean, nobody, nobody talks about this, but the Civil War, why?

Why is there a civil war? People don't talk about that. He was implying that we never study or delve into the Civil War. About why it actually happened. When there are hundreds of scholarly careers have been based entirely all that subject. Countless books. Some of our best movies.

Yeah, Ken Burns documentary, which I've watched recently is fantastic. Dude, Chickamauga, where I live, it literally, like the entire town is supported by the goddamn civil. war still to this day it's like yeah it gets talked about well also the biggest fucking line out of the south oftentimes from the apologists is it wasn't about slavery uh-huh like the implication there is that we've already decided why but we're the ones who are making you question if that was really the case right well and there's a huge raging debate over that I mean saying there is well there is no real debate but I'm saying there's a but people be talking about why all the time

that's all they talk about is why dude right even Trump fans are like uh we don't know why it's not, sir. When Dylan Roof went on that tragic killing spree in Charleston, that literally sparked because of his relationship with the rebel flag, it literally sparked talking about the Civil War again, and it was in the news for a goddamn year.

Like, anytime you bring up the flag, which gets brought up a lot, the implications are the Civil War. Why doesn't this flag hit for a lot of people? So, like, it's literally never not talked about. Yeah. I mean, I know that from where I'm from, obviously, it's even more hardcore,

but what a dumb fuck statement. Yeah, but there again, you know, wow, stop the presses. But, like, to me, though, like, we see. With his, he made a dumb fuck statement. I know, but like, with, normally it's to rile his base, but with this one, I got to feel like even his base is like, no, we, we, uh, we stay talking about that.

And we know why. Yeah, we know exactly. God damn Yankees try to tell me how to live my fucking life. Exactly. Um, I always fuck his name up. Numong Kumangi. Fuck, I blew that. Camille Nangeani?

He tweeted, I saw. I didn't know what it was referenced to, but it cracked me up just without the context. He said, I'll bet you $20, Trump doesn't know what bill Andrew Jackson's on. Oh, that's funny a shit. So I was going to. He probably does think 20s are gross. Trump, you mean? Oh, because he only likes hundreds?

He probably has like a higher denomination bill that we don't even know as a thing. Yeah. He just has a card and a person who does all things for him. I was going to say that. He ain't touched money in years. I was going to say that, but I could also see him being the type that just likes to. Has a clip. Just like, yeah.

With his face on it. Yeah. For sure. He just seems that way to me. But I was going to bring up what we were discussing the other night in the hotel room related to Gangascon. I read another story in that same thread. And it was about Caligula declaring war on Neptune. the god of the sea

and the way that they waged that war was he sent his Roman legions just down to the beach and they started stabbing the beat the water they started stabbing the water and like catapulting rocks and shit into the water just like having

a battle against the water and the thought I had while reading that was like god damn people used to be so stupid like it just blows my mind sometimes how stupid people be used to be and i have a bit about that but like and there's multiple stories like that i think where you read them it's like god damn people were dumb but then i realized like that's

basically what north korea does they just throw rockets into the fucking water yeah and like and you pointed out like well you know yeah he was a lunatic colligula but like what were they going to do not do what the lunatic caesar says like there was probably some dudes a shitload of dudes down there and their iron skirts and stuff just like God I hate this fucking job poking the water with swords

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All for 2999. Love that chicken from Popeye. Limited time to participate in U.S. restaurants. Prices may vary additional terms apply. There's interaction with gods. If that's your baseline, you know, like stabbing the water is just barely a step above that. And we can judge them for that. But, like, think about what kind of wild shit a lot of people in our current time believe in that'll be really dumb in a thousand years.

You know what I mean? Yeah, but, well, but it'll still be really dumb in a thousand years. Like, they still, it still was dumb. Like, we've objectively advanced a whole lot. But our dumbness has a change in my opinion. Like, our knowledge has grown. Our ignorance has dissipated. Our stupidity is just at a good baseline.

I see what you're saying. Yeah, like we, where we start at is a much, like, higher floor, but, like, the way our stupidity operates. Right. Still isn't much different than it ever has been. Right. Because you also read stories about, like, like, bathroom graffiti and, like, Pompeii or something. You know what I mean? Like, which was, like, preserved by the fucking volcanic ash and shit for centuries.

And then you go in there and, like, find bathroom graffiti written and wrote, whatever, the hell that language was called. And it translates out to just stuff like Tiberius can suck a dick, you know, that kind of shit for a good time called V. Yeah, it's basically just that kind of stuff, you know. Yeah. And then you read that and you're like, oh, there was one I saw. It was literally like Cleopatra was here and then underneath it, so was Jonas.

Right. Nice. You remember he was. it was a long time ago. So we were doing black liver shows and shit, and we did something on Nero. It got brought up. You remember Nero?

Yeah. But we did a sketch about Nero? We did like, there was some set we did where we had to all go up and somebody would shout out a random thing and you had to do a joke based on it. Because I did one on Sodom and Gomorra. I did a joke about Miro.

It may have been a DJ. I think I did one about the Immaculate Conception was the one I got. It was very religious to be. Because mine was the flood. Yeah, and mine was Sodomac. It was the ark. Anyways, I remember that this is just

talking about Collegian people like this. Nero, remember he used to, we learned this fact that night. He used to fiddle while Rome burned. But he used to have giraffes rape people to death while he watched. Like, that was his thing. And people would come, like, they'd sell tickets to it. And, like, fucking mass murderers, he would have

giraffes. I didn't know giraffes got down like that. Yeah, buddy. Whatever Nero wanted. Man, these goddamn giraffes had it too easy for too long. Mm-hmm. Everybody acting like they're just cute, tall deer.

Giraffes rape people to death. Nero had some do that, yes. And yeah, you said... Remember that video that dude got raped to death by that horse? Well, no, no, no, no. Actually. The giraffe probably thought he was just fucking. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't think you can rape if you're a giraffe. Yeah, the giraffe would just like, I'm going to kill this guy with my big giraffe dick, which has to be enormous. Man, we are in it right now. Do you remember that? This still has something to do.

Mr. Hans, do you remember that? The dude that got disembowled by a horse? Yeah. Yeah. That's unbelievable. I skipped that one. A horse fucks this dude in the butt, and when he pulls his dick out, he's like, his...

Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Y'all'm looking up. I didn't make it that far. Oh, really? Sincerely, the video started, and I was like, Ah! It's funny to me that he's surprised by that. Hey, I don't remember that, but if I even did see it,

I wouldn't even have clicked on it given the description, because that kind of shit, it's not my jam. Yeah, it was one of those things. It was one of those things. You haven't had those where the description? Here's what happened with me. I was watching Joe Rogan. Was it like a two girls one cup?

Respond to two girls one cup. I was watching the response video of Joe Rogan, two girls one cup. Joe Rogan sat there and he's watching it and he's starting to get unhinged a little bit. And then he says, I can't believe this is getting me. I've seen wild shit. And he goes, I saw something. And he goes, I saw a dude get fucked to death by a horse. And the way Joe Rogan said it, like I was 22.

I was like, hell yeah. Started cooking. Dude a dude getting fucking by a horse. Hit enter. Hit play. we go with five seconds in the video and my brain goes, this is real, Drew.

And I was, and I was, and I was way younger when I watched it and could handle that type of shit and was probably on Vicodin. But like now, no,

I couldn't watch it. Dude, I have. I've done face my mortality. A bunch of my buddies when we were all teenagers that used to watch that kind of shit a lot

on the internet. Like that was like, that and porn was what they used the internet for. Yeah, so I shove a glass bottle up our ass and break it. Damn, say,

just don't. I'm saying even then when we were teenagers They were over in the corner on the computer watching that shit, and I was just over there being fat playing Tomb Raider or whatever. Like, I wasn't never into that shit. Being fat playing Tomb Raider, this sounds like a good, like, destiny for you. Well, time is a flat circle, Bruce. I meant that in a positive way.

Wouldn't you enjoy to just be fat and play Tomb Raider? I obviously enjoyed it. Very much. I spent hours upon hours being fat and playing Tomb Raider. You got Corey's Meeting 3 shirt on. That's what the shirt says, by the way, y'all. And it's, like, folded up under your titties as you're talking about being a bad playing too writer.

That's great. I'm glad you stretch it out for me, baby. Anyway. What's next? Well, I just, can we just, like, how do we, how do we sum up how, like, he's a narcissist, right? And I mean that, like, clinically. Like, you have to. Andrew Jackson or Trump.

Well, Jackson probably. Well, Andrew Jackson is one of his heroes. Inability. to see outside himself. Obviously, there's all the things we've talked about that, like, you know, he's selfish, he's an idiot, he's a rich piece of shit, he's going to ruin the country to try, you know, to build his own legacy. But just that little microcosm. I don't know if you guys knew this. Andrew Jackson, he really thought he was telling people some shit.

And, like, he thinks he's smarter than everyone out there. He thinks, I'm about to say something really prolific about the Civil War. Uh-huh. That's incredible. what's also incredible to me he points at Andrew Jackson this is not the first instance he's used him all the time

as like a role model of his for being president which gets his base pretty fired up because Andrew Jackson is known as like he's a tough guy old hickory tells it like it is

here's the difference though Andrew Jackson actually fucking fought in battles and wasn't a pussy I mean he was crazy as shit and he did horrible things but god damn it he'd go out there with like

oh he wasn't a pussy that's what I'm saying though so just saying the shit that Andrew Jackson says does not make you the type of person, Andrew, that you can't just do that. Andrew Jackson won duel. I was about saying, he got shot. Dude, they said, I've heard this story

about it, or read a story about Andrew Jackson once that said he was in a duel, which he had a lot of. A lot of duels. And the dude, the dude shot him and hit him, but he didn't fall or nothing. And then he shot the dude, and the dude that he shot fell and was bleeding out. and one of Jackson's slaves probably, I don't know,

whatever, assistance, came running over to him because he'd been shot to help him and Andrew Jackson and stopped him. Stopped him, he was like, no, no, no, don't call him. He said, I want him to die believing that he missed me. See? Again. Pretty hardcore.

He could back it up. And a would-be assassin came up and tried to shoot him on the steps of the Capitol building one day or something and Andrew Jackson just beat the fuck out of him with a stick. They had to save the assassin from the president. Who was whipping his ass with a walking cane. That was the first attempt

attempted assassination of a president by the way. You could tell he from a history town. Yeah. He do no stuff about history. Trump, on the other hand, got stone cold stuttered once. Yeah. Which, we've said this a million times. I don't know if we've said on the podcast. That one I do let

slide because if Barry O had it got Stokelestone, I've been like, that's the coolest motherfucker ever. I know. And then, you know, it goes back to the narcissist thing. Because I said that a minute ago, I said, can you believe he said something that he thought would be prolific? But we do that. That's what comics do.

Sure. And like, my buddy James has pointed out, all these comics calling Trump a narcissist, ain't that right. Here's the thing. We go to basements and try to get people to laugh. Right. I'm not running for president. He literally runs the world.

Yeah, no, that's true because I've had... I never said I should run the world. I've gone back and forth with some people on that too. Well, you know, you've said some stuff that ain't true before. I'm like, right. And I'm not running for the highest office in the goddamn land. Right. That's not my thing.

Also, man, just to backtrack a little bit, for the record, I get what, I get what you're saying. But I don't, first of all, Barack Obama wasn't ever stunted and will never be stunted. And secondly, frankly, if he, I get your point. But if he was, I don't think it really hit for me. if Obama, the type of dude he is, got Stone Called Stunnered, I would be like, oh man, come on. What if he did the stunner? I would ask that too. What if he stunned somebody?

That would hit. Just kick Triple H in the balls and just stunned his ass? That would be awesome. Well. Yeah. And you know what that is? Barack Obama and even Bush to a certain extent and Clinton for sure, these are people who knew who they were as politicians. Yeah.

They also had a bit of class. Well, but what I'm saying is, though, like, Barry O wouldn't do that. If someone came in, I feel like it would really help us win Pennsylvania. He was just be like, that's not me. That's not how I want to win Pennsylvania. There's no, that's not me with Donald Trump. Sure. Because he's a robot or something.

Now, I mean, he wasn't running for president when he got stuttered. That is, that is true. Yeah, he was just a literal reality TV buffoon, and that is what reality TV buffoons do. God, he's the president. He's the goddamn president. Yeah. Right. That's all true.

But the way you say that, no, no, no. That makes it sound like sort of a defense of it. And you're right. Yeah. But then that guy became president. Exactly. Which is right. It's in defense.

Which is still the point. That is the point. But what I'm saying is like, it wasn't a campaign trick. But he didn't need any of those. He didn't need one of those at all. Well, his entire campaign was a trick. Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, that's probably true of most campaigns to a certain extent.

But the way. Wildness is, like, you're right, it was fine for Donald Trump to get Stone Cold Stunnered. It's not fine for him to be president. Exactly. Right. Well, I'm glad we figured that one out, boys. It's real brilliant. Nobody ever talks about this.

Hot tech. Nobody ever tries to figure out why Donald Trump got elected. That's where they come to the Well Red podcast right there. That's no hit that Trump's president. That's hot. See you next week. What else we got to tell y'all? We ate some Cajun food.

It was good. I wasn't there. We've never tried that. Speaking of. We ain't done earn in a while Andrew Jackson and New Orleans They tore them monumous down They tore the Civil War Monuments down

Oh that's right Orleans And I say They're, you know People got pissed Yeah But way more Not a whole lot of people

No really got pissed Not really There weren't Well were there riot No I'd heard about it There was riot riots But there was No I don't

Ain't anybody died Is what I'm saying And I mean the same amount of people in New Orleans died that we're going to die that night in New Orleans is what I mean but yeah I mean like would say like oh there

there were new stories about like you know they're being uproars you know from white people over them taking the monuments down and I mean I'm saying I think way way way more white people in and around New Orleans or even just that heard about it were like

either whatever who gives a fuck or good then there were outraged by it. You know what I mean? For sure. It's, I mean, it's tough to say something new about it because I feel like you know, you get on Twitter and you see like all the points. But we've been talking about it for years. I mean, we talked about it a lot in our book.

Yeah. Liberal Redneck Manifesto, Dragon Dixie out of the dark. Available on Amazon, where it spent several weeks at number one in both religious and political humor. Corey's getting really good at that. But. bragging about myself, yeah. Really good. Yeah, getting good.

You're right. The idea that we need to keep those but not have, you know, slavery museums and slavery monuments and an acknowledgement publicly of that. You know, and like the irony and the hypocrisy of, why are black people mad about this flag? Why can't they get over it? Yeah. Or slavery in general.

Why can't they get over slavery? Oh, yeah, too. they don't want to have a slavery monument because like, oh, we don't want to look at that. That would make us feel uncomfortable. Oh, really? Oh, would it?

Oh, what would it? Oh, cool. Cool. Yeah, just the blatant hypocrisy of, you know, get over it, black people, get over it. It was 100 years ago. Just why can't you move on and then? So, Corey, why isn't there a Martin Luther King Street in Chickamauga?

Yeah. We got one in Chattanooga. That's close enough. That was actually at the city council meeting. That's what they said. And they adjourned. Corey, did y'all? did you get a day out of school for Martin Luther King Day?

Yeah, I used to do a joke about this. Hand to God. We did. But I'm actually stunned that y'all even did. No. It was a snow day. It was called a snow day. It was not like we knew.

Wait, what? Every year on Martin Luther King Day, y'all didn't go to school, but it was listed no day. It said snow day on the calendar. Like when the calendar came out in August, it said snow day there. Yes. Now, we all knew because my family and the, the pastor's family who were really good friends.

Our families would go to Gatlinburg for the long weekend. And we knew, yes, this is Martin Luther King weekend. And we never thought anything different of it. But, like, I got into high school. And then I never fucked with the calendar. I just knew, yeah, we're off Martin Luther King, gotty, yada, yada, yada. But on the fucking calendar, sure is shit. Snow Day, what it said.

That's fucking unreal today. That's unbelievable. The cognitive dissonance it takes to act like that that's okay. I don't know that they do that anymore. But I do know that that went on for a long time because I remember having a whole. Well, first I did a joke about. about it. And so I remember the joke now. I wasn't thinking about that when asked the question, though. I was expecting the answer to the question to be no. I thought the joke was that you guys called it Martin Luther King slash Robert E. Lee Lee. No. No. No. No. Maybe. Probably. That's almost even worse. Like at least we just flat out ignored it. They tried to also give Robert E. Lee.

Dude, you try to make Robert E. Lee and them share a day? That's pretty bad. But at least then people can have a fight about it. Yeah, you're right. I guess. At least you're being open with who and what you are. No, you're right. You're right. You know what I mean? I'm definitely not ever going to try to just defend what my school did. I'm just saying, you know, whatever.

No, no, I hear what you're saying. And it's an interesting question in general with stuff like this. Is it what's like neither's acceptable? Sure. What's more palatable? To me, it's someone let me know who they are. Right. Yeah.

You know what I mean? No, I agree with you. But like I said, we all knew, everyone knew what day it was. It's just on the official school calendar. But how old were you when you feel? figured out what had happened. Probably around middle school to early high school. And you're very, very smart.

But I didn't ever look at the calendar. That's my point. There are a lot of kids in the towns where it's Robert Ely slash Martin Luther King. They really believe. There's a fight. There's debates. And kids can listen to that. And some of them, hopefully, fingers crossed, pray to God, can make up their mind and realize Jesus, this is bullshit.

And yours, it's like the goal is literally, let's just not fucking talk about this. So our kids don't ask any questions. It's wild. I mean, we grew up. It's like Christians with sex. I remember in Sunday school one time in particular, I remember, and I've heard this passed around a lot. Whenever Martin Luther King would get brought up,

the people who was the teacher or the Sunday school teacher or whatever, had to make it a point to let you know that he cheated on his wife. That was the first fucking thing that said. They go, well, you know, he wasn't a saint. He cheated on his wife. I had a teacher that was like that. I'm just one of them. Well, so did several people in this fucking church.

Andy's mom. my mother-in-law is like that with everything that is not completely in line with how she believes. Yeah, well, they did this. Everything. Every person, anytime she brings up a person

that she even thinks she might respect but that isn't a Republican, there's always a yeah-butt. It's unbelievable. That has nothing to do. And she doesn't realize that that, do you know what I mean? Like she doesn't know that it's a habit of hers.

Right. What's the yeah-butt for you? Is it just a list of, just a laundry list of things? You know, she's never said it to my. I do love Drew, but. Well, what she'll do. Because you obviously disagree with her on everything. No, she won't do that like me as a human, but what she will do is she'll be like, you know, I saw you on the view.

That's really cool. You guys got to go do that. But you know. Uh-huh. Did you know that that show and then she'll bring up some blatant hypocrisy, blah, blah, blah, that she's, they had this one author on there and they weren't very nice to him or whatever. You know what I mean? It's like, I'm proud of you. But just so you know,

those people that you like and that like you back, they're full of shit or whatever. It's like, all right. Well, anyway, thanks for being proud of me. And then also throwing that in there. Yeah, dude, it's fairly unbelievable. I wonder what that's going to be like for me or for us when if. On the other way. Because that happens the other direction too.

Well, no, it'd be the same direction. I mean, we're liberals. I'm talking about from people. Right now they just call me a queer. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you meant like when you talked to people like, like, I got friends in New York who Megan Kelly

is a great example you know what I mean like god damn Megan Kelly took Donald Trump down when she was doing all that on Fox and really going after him and they would be like yeah but

and I'm like just let her have this one she's on our team now right that's all you need to know for now like we can go back to it we can circle back when it's relevant but it ain't relevant to this conversation that's what I'm saying if you're a Raiders fan

that used to hate the Seahawks like it's like fuck it's not on the Seahawks anymore we got Marshawn Lynch he's on our team now who gives a fuck what he did I am about to, because it's pretty easy to follow that logic to, like, if somebody has some, like, genuinely, like, regressive or, like, homophobic or racist beliefs, but, like, they agree with you on, I don't know, like, immigration or whatever. It wouldn't be immigration. Well, hold up. Like that.

That's not what I'm talking about, though. I'm not talking about, like, no, it's not. There's no what people say about Megan Kelly. It's like, yeah, but she thinks gay people shouldn't. And I'm not saying that she does. but I'm saying like isn't that basically what you're saying? It's like, yeah, okay, she's doing good here, but like she's pretty homophobic too. Like, that's okay to point that out to me.

I'm not saying it's not okay to point it out, first of all, but that's not what we're talking about here. I'm talking about the instance of like someone's sharing a clip of Megan Kelly taking down Trump. And the point of it is, look, how stupid he is. And then someone just has to point out, okay, but Megan Kelly X-W. We weren't talking about Megan Kelly. We were talking about this issue. So I just looked up Megan Kelly and here's... And again, I don't really know.

She said Jesus was white. No, she is super hot and blonde. And it hates Trump, so she hits from me. So bottom line, case closed, don't care, her legs hit. I'm glad misogyny led us to the answer. I'm not saying that when you're talking about a person, you shouldn't point out their flaws. I'm saying that if you're talking about an issue,

issue, you're just doing that me thing if you point out the person's flaws. It's like, look, this has no do with it. They are right about this. Yeah, I'm not. They were wrong about that. If we're discussing Megan Kelly, yeah, we should absolutely bring it. Or if we're discussing Trump or any person, if we're discussing a person, we should bring it up.

But that's my point. Like with my mother-in-law on the view, we weren't talking about whoopee. We were talking about me being on the view. Right. Right. You're letting your- We're talking about me, God damn it. Yeah. Just focus on me for once.

Sure. Sure. Yeah, I don't, I don't really. I don't get it because I've had a lot of my friends of that too. They saw you on there and then blah blah blah blah blah blah blah for 30 minutes and they go but you did good blah blah blah blah blah and I'm like

why is it that just the full focus of this? This is my thing if you were on something I'd be so fucking happy about you. And it might have been a bad analogy. I was attempting to just say when the purpose of the conversation was whatever Trump had said and Megan Kelly had shut him down and it's like we don't have to throw it in there we're not talking about whether or not Megan Kelly's a good person We're just talking about this issue and how stupid she made him look.

I was on national television and your first thought is, cool. Now I can talk to Corey about my shitty views and tell him that it's like, who the fuck is you? Well, that's... Yeah, but dude, that guy doesn't need to give a shit that you were on TV. No, I understand that. I'm talking about my friends. Like, my friends who are... Corey's point is it's clear to him they don't.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying is like, instead of just going cool, my pal was on TV for a book, they have to let you know exactly why it was shitty that you were on that particular show. And instead of doing that, they should just shut the fuck up. And then at the end is a very tiny footnote. But, I mean, I'm proud of you. It's like, you took 30 minutes to say that. No, you're not. No, you're not.

We got that from fans, not just like, right. Yeah, we did. There was a lot of people who had to let us know that they hated the view, but that we did good on it. And that's fine. Like, I'm not saying I'm necessarily mad about that, but that's a weird human thing. It's a weird comment to me. I came here to compliment you, but also I need you to know some stuff about me. Yeah, yeah.

But here's the context to that compliment. Right. Well, I got something else that I want to talk about. Do we as a society, do we actually believe in second chances or not? And I know we would say as liberals, the people on the right absolutely don't. They don't give a fuck about second chances. I mean, you know, unless it somehow suits them. But I'm saying criminals deserve everything they get.

They deserve to be in prison. They don't deserve to be rehabilitated. They deserve to be punished and fucked them forever. that's how we perceive the attitude on the other side a lot of the time, right? And they'll look at us and go, well, baby, the aborted babies didn't get a second chance. But I feel like it happens with liberals a lot, too, depending on what it is the person has done. Michael Vic. Thank you for saying that.

So, really what you were about to get in? No, no. But that's true. First of all, full disclosure, I'm an Oakland Raiders fan, pretty hardcore. We signed an old boy who probably, would have been drafted but wasn't drafted. I just read this. His name's Ishmael Zamora.

He played for Baylor. He didn't get drafted, and the Raiders signed him as an undrafted free agent. Part of the reason his draft stock fell is because a video was leaked on the internet of him, to him, disciplining his dog for taking a shit in the house. But in the video, he's got a belt, and I mean, he is going in on this dog. Like, he's whipping the shit out of it with a belt. and everything I've seen, and again, these are Raiders fans, y'all. I mean, you know, just felons, you think, ostensibly.

Ostensibly, but everything I've seen has just been like, this piece of shit. He has no place on our team. I can't believe we'd sign somebody like this. We need to get, we need to get rid of this guy or whatever. And that's what I'm saying is like he whipped a dog. It's always like that with dogs in America. And so is it just dog? It's mostly dogs, and I'm going to tell you why.

Because if people who are like that and like that about dogs, they have dogs usually, and they love dogs, and they know how innocent dogs are, and how they just become what you make them. And there's a part of me that can't help but wonder when they react bigger to a dog beater than they do like a wife beater or whatever. There's a part of me that's going, really what you're saying is that dog didn't deserve it, but you can imagine a scenario where that woman did. Like, that's what I almost feel like they're saying.

Yeah, that dog didn't say shit. Dude, that's pretty much. Some of these people were saying... Kids are the only thing above dogs. Except, I swear to God, some people on this discussion I saw on the internet about this were even saying, like, even kids. Like, they just put dogs and other animals just above humans in terms of not deserving it. And I, dude, it was making me furious.

Well, I mean, I've seen some kids that deserve to get beat, so I understand what this is. I know, well, I know some people who absolutely would feel worse. for a dog and I've heard them use it biblically it's like with kids though they're like you know spare the rod spoil the child you're supposed to beat your kid a little bit I think the notion there probably how is those people who feel that way how is it any different for a dog because in their brain because training a dog's one thing but just like sometimes they'll just like a dog you'll come home and the dog will have paid or whatever and they'll just start whipping the dogs like well the dog don't know why you're whipping it the kid the kid the kid does because you can tell the kid this is why

I'm fucking hitting you right don't do that shit again a lot of times with the dog it's just like you're just hitting it and don't know and now the dog's just going to be scared and aggressive it may bite somebody and you're creating a shitty dog with the kid you can at least go hey if you do that again i'll fucking hit you in the mouth yeah but now you're not that a that ain't okay either b i agree i agree with you i'm talking about what their logic is yeah that ain't me that's not me you can feel fuck all that it's and i don't agree with it but that's that is true you can't tell a dog why you're whipping them no if they just did something wrong you can point out and hit them and they'll get it but like you can with a kid right

Kids have dread. They know when it did something wrong and you find out about it a week later. I still don't agree with it. And matter of fact, and you and I talked about this recently, maybe when we were talking about this topic, I am anti-whipping kids and that's new for me. Uh-huh. Okay. What changed? So here.

Realizing that we're beating fucking kids. There you go. I don't whip. Like, I don't spank my kids. My kids don't get the belt or nothing like that. Like, dude, in a, like, literally like this. You know what I mean? Just like, hey, stop that.

Trey is now bruising my foot. I'm beating Drew right now. But no, like, literally just like, slap their hand. Don't do that shit. Get away from that, whatever. Smack on that knot. You remember that old. Not in a way that.

That knot's gross. I got one of them. Not in a way that. Hold on. It's on the other. It ain't on the top of my foot. It's on the side of my foot. Before we start talking about your foot knots.

Please. Trey's about to feed us. He's been beating me. Listen. He gave me a foot knot. Okay, this sort of gets into the whole thing about the dude whipping his dog. You said, I'm against beating kids and that's new for me. Trey, we did it.

You liked the Raiders. It's fine. Let all the rapists play on your team. Maybe y'all win a Super Bowl. No, I've got the same way about Michael Vick, too. I worked with this girl when that shit with Vick happened, and she was talking about how he literally deserved to be executed. Yeah, man. And all this shit.

And even then, I was like, shut your fucking mouth. The white liberal inability to, like, be fair about that specific scenario was infuriated. Okay, so, and I don't think we've talked about this on a podcast before. I know I've talked about it, but like, there's a black community where I grew up. I went to high school with those kids, and the dudes, they, in that community up there, I don't know what they still do. I'm not saying it, whatever. I just know that, like, dog fighting was a thing there. And, like, when I was growing up, like, the way they just talked about it casually, like, it was just part of what they did.

it don't make it okay, but I'm saying like they never even date to them. It was absolutely a cultural thing. Yeah, but I got to say you got to be careful going down that because like child brides is a cultural thing. I know. I'm not defending it at all. I know you're not. But I'm just saying because I know that and I saw that or whatever when that was happened

with Vic and he said it was a cultural thing, I had no problem like. Believe you. Totally believing it. Like, no, that doesn't make him a psychopath. Like as long as he can learn that it's wrong and, you know, change from it, and I believe that he did and has. Without a doubt.

Then, then okay. You know, like, that's supposed to be what America's all about. So if the Raiders are going to sign Michael Vic to be the backup? No, but listen. It's just as cultural whipping your dog as it is like whipping a kid. Like, that guy, again. Well, yeah, your joke about picking out your own switch. Right.

That's abuse, man. No shit. Of course, but people I love made me do that too. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. And I know people who whip the fuck. out of dogs, man, like their dogs. I've, like, in, like,

Trey, butt before. I don't do it anymore. I came around the same time with the kids and dogs at the same time, but when we were training Mick, my dog, I would, I would whip his butt, but the angers ever got to him, and this freaked me out,

and this actually might have been when I, this is, this is, I didn't touch him after this, and I didn't hit him this time, but I came home, he chewed up my boots. He chewed holes in my boots, my old ones,

like the ones that I got these new ones that were replaced that I don't like as much. I had those boots for like eight years, and we had been working on him not chewing stuff. We'd done so many things, and I just lost it. And I didn't do anything to him. I picked him up, like in anger. Like, I grabbed him in anger, and I picked him up.

Like, I didn't know what I was going to do. And then I just set him back down. But I freak myself the fuck out by doing that. And that's when I was like, wait a minute. By giving myself permission to hit him, then when I was angry, my body was like, okay with it. Do you know what I mean? And it's sort of like related in a weird way to what we're talking about, how if culturally or whatever, you have decided a certain thing.

is acceptable. And then it's just a habit for you. Do you know what I mean? Like if I hadn't caught myself, I might have hit him really hard in that moment. Here's all I'm trying to say. And I didn't. Everybody out there.

And I never would. And don't you come at me at Twitter. Come out of love my dog. I will fucking murder you over my dog. I'm saying it's fucked up. I'm just telling you that people do it. Yeah. You know?

And like, that's what I was about to say. I want to clarify, I'm not defending that dude whipping his dog or Michael Vick for fighting dogs or beating kids. I'm not. not defending any of that. What I'm saying is, because

of where I grew up, I realize that like that dude whipping his dog like that doesn't make that dude a monster, which is how a lot of people, he has since, he's been made to go to meetings. He's got to do stuff for ASPC,

whatever it is. Like, I always, he can like learn from it. It's like, no, man, I know that's how your daddy, disciplined dogs or whatever, but like, that shit ain't okay and as long as he's like oh okay then then it then it's fine i agree with you completely i do think there's a there's a point made about in the criminal law world in general where they go

especially on the right they go yeah but that culture of just forgiving and all that you know that lets the true psychopaths get away with it you know what i mean and that's true and here's my thing on that we have to make a decision and this is both relates to crime and this dude hitting dogs in the NFL and all that we have to make a decision as a society

are we going to allow a few psychopaths to take advantage of our kindness or are we just going to throw decent people out the fucking window because they did something that was truly bad if not horrible

but they can redeem themselves and I am I'm on the latter team like yeah we're going to a few cyclopasts are going to take advantage of our kindness because I'm

Sorry, I'm on the former team. Of course. Because we have to be that way. The alternative is untenable to me. Me too. It's like the whole death penalty argument, basically. Like if you ever... It's literally the death penalty argument.

If we have ever executed one innocent man, which it's been proven that we have... 100%. More than once. Yep. Then that means we can't do it anymore. Exactly. One innocent dude being executed is enough to make us stop... 100%.

No matter how that. actually a few examples of people that we executed and then we found out they weren't guilty. Where, had we not executed them, there's a good chance they'd have been alive when we figured out that they weren't, you know what I mean? They would only been like 60. They could have seen their fucking grandkids. Well, I mean, this is to a little, I don't know if it's a lesser extent or not, but like, that's how I've argued welfare to a lot of people. They're like, well, look, in my hometown, they're like, you know, all these, these bombs people just want to get. I was like, sure, those people absolutely exist.

There is welfare fraud. I know that, I know that happens. but I'm not in the business of making a law to protect us from a very small percentage of assholes when it could help so many people that actually deserve it and need it and are good citizens and will probably not be on it forever. It'll probably just be the little jumpstart they need. Like, how can you not see that? In my opinion, how the fuck can you not?

Why would you make the law? Well, there's a couple people that'll do it wrong. So fuck it altogether. I agree with that. But even beyond that, those shitty people in the first category, more often than not, they have children. and like it ain't the kids fucking fault. No. You know what I mean?

Like, and that's one of my main things with it. It's like even if you're talking about the fucking true welfare queens and the shitty abusers of the system, I still don't want to take their benefits away if their kids are eating because of it. Right. Because it ain't the kid's fucking fault. Sure. So like, and yeah, that sucks. Everything about that fucking sucks. But like, you know, again, the alternative is untenable to me.

Right. like letting kids go hungry in what's supposed to be the best country on the planet like fuck all that we can't do that it's just like health insurance letting people die you know what I mean if they don't have because it's not fair like because it's not fair for me to pay for their

health care your surgery okay so we'll just let them fucking die right like a country like America can't do that kind of shit right also they're just going to go to the emergency room which you fucking pay for too I'm saying but those people are like yeah they don't have that either

It's like, okay, but so then let's let them die. But to me, I don't understand it. You're still going to pay for him one way or the fucking other. Why not have to pay for them and then be healthy? But that's way harder for me to accept or wrap my mind around than what, the other stuff we were talking about. When people are unforgiving of, you know, someone who's been accused of beating their wife or beating a dog, at least there I can be like, man, I can see it. If I was in the room with that dude and he was beat, like if someone beat my dog in front of me, I would end up going to jail. Do you know what I mean?

Like I would not forgive that person at all. I would not be forgiving at all. Somebody called my dog ugly one time. And you wanted to fight them? I don't talk to me anymore. But what I'm saying is I can see, even though I think that as a society we do need to give second chances, I get it more with crime and with beating dogs and stuff like that. With the welfare, I really can't fathom how you're so hard, like that that offends you so well so much that you want to get rid of it. Do you know what I mean?

Dude, I get personally offended by it because I was on food stamps as a kid. Right. My entire childhood, like, you know, it really bothers me when I see that shit, you know. Yeah. And that's what, and I mean, I was beat by dog when I was a kid, so I also have. You were bit by dog? I said, I said, too. I said beat.

I was like, beat by dog. That's hilarious. But I heard it as bit. Oh, man. No, I heard it as beat by dog was absurd. Bit by dog could have really happened. I know. That's what I'm saying.

That's why I didn't, it didn't hit as much. for me because my ears are my ears don't work. I'm not going to tell it. I can't tell that. I know this ain't, I know how the feedback for this is going to be. Again,

I ain't saying people should fucking beat dogs. I'm saying beating. When I pick me up. Beating dogs doesn't automatically make some, beating a dog, like if he was just doing it just for the hell of it. Right. That is sociopathic shit.

Like choking a dog. He thinks that's how you teach a dog not to do something they should. didn't do. Right. He genuinely believes that. Yes. Teach him otherwise.

And if he stops, he's fine. Like, maybe. It doesn't make him a bad person. But here's my, here's what I'll go a step further. And this really ain't going to hit for people. Even if that's not sure. Because I could, I could hear an argument where they go, come on, dude. Only an idiot would think that would actually be the way.

Like some part of him, you know, was angry or wanted to take out some stress and ended up taking it out on the dog. Even if it was that. That still don't mean throw that human being away and we're done with them now. In my opinion. Because, like, going back to what I've, I've never been more ashamed of myself in relation to something like that than when I pick Mick up. I didn't hurt him at all. But I scared him.

I scared the fuck out of him. He peed a little bit. I, I, fuck, I cried. Yeah. Like, I, like, ashamed of myself. And my point is, if I had seen my dad, like, beat a lot of dogs. And I didn't. And the main reason is we didn't have inside dogs.

I thought you were going to say, Mainery's this, he just shot him. And he would do that. Fuck that dog. And he would do that. He would like, stray dog come around. He thought it had to mange. That dog was dead.

Of course. So, but like, you know, humanely, he didn't beat him or nothing like that. But I'm saying, if I had seen him regularly, if we had an inside dog and I'd seen him regularly, even just for punishment. In that moment, because I was so angry, if it was inside me, if it was a part of me or my culture or whatever, I would have punished Mick by hitting him, and I would have done it out of anger. And I probably would have done it, like, really hard. Harder than you would have wanted to.

With what you were saying is I wouldn't have been doing it to punish him at that point. I would have been absolutely hitting him out of anger. And it would have been wrong. And it would have been pathetic. It would have been all those things. But it wouldn't have meant that I'm, you know, don't deserve a job. Which is what people are really saying when they're like, don't let him in the NFL. Right.

Yeah. Like that's his job. It's his job. You know, that's his career. His job is to hit other people. Dude, those people think that he or people like don't deserve anything. You know what I mean? Like when Michael Vicks.

case, I literally heard people say he should be executed. Yeah, but again, I heard people say that. That's so incorrect. But then I also love dogs. So there's a part of me it's like, I mean, I do get their self-righteous anger. Like, they're wrong. Society can't be that way. But if I had a seen Michael Vic do that to one of them dogs, I'd have probably been like, you know, if he weren't so huge, I'd beat him up.

Yeah. No, I agree. 100%. To some of the, no, no, no, no. Not just beating a dog. Not just hitting a dog. And I'm not saying he personally did this. I think a lot of it was his boys or whatever.

They drown them. Some of the accusations go way further than just beating a dog. We're talking about electrocuting them, hanging them, drowning him. Those people are absolutely psychopass. And if that is part of your culture, then your culture is fucked up and your parents were psychopass

and their parents were psychopaths. And you might be fucking, there's a serial killer in your goddamn family. Something is wrong. And if you'll do that to a fucking dog, what will you do to me? Drowning them, I'm not talking about popping him or hitting him with a bell. I'm talking about, drowning a dog, hanging a dog, electrocuing a dog. Like torturing whatever an animal like that.

Yes, that's absolutely psychopathic. But when you said the culture thing, I'm just saying, like, as far as the dog fighting and shit goes, like, and you're talking about being a cultural thing, they don't look at them as, they don't look at them the way that y'all. I understand that. Like, they're like, it's like fish or something to them. But it's like sharks. I understand that. I understand that. I understand that.

What I'm talking about. I hang the fuck out of a shark. I'm saying. All right. That's fair. But I feel it's fair. That's sort of what I'm saying. I heard it.

Like if you were there or even if you're not, like if you just feel fuck that guy to death. Yeah. And I personally feel that and I hope he never gets a job in the NFL and I don't think they should fucking hire him. If you think that that's like what should happen morally, that's right. I think that's fine. But if you think it should be policy, if you can't recognize that your own emotion should be removed from the policy, then you are no different than people who are like, no, I'm pro death penalty. You know, my fucking cousin got murdered by a dude, blah, blah, blah. blah, blah, it's like you're not taking your emotion out of what is going to apply to the whole

world. You know what I mean? Yeah, well. Because I think I should be allowed to hit people that I want to hit, but I think hitting people should be illegal. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do the crime.

Anyway, don't bake dogs, but if people do, and they're a good ballplayer just to look the other way. There it is. There was. Oh, I'm with that. Or like good at science experiments, but I mean, if you just work at the dollar store, you know. Or good at a science. Well, I mean, hell, there, you know. Science, scientists do a whole lot worse than just whoop them a lot of times.

Yeah, they experiment on them. They send fucking rockets across the Middle East and blow up fucking, you know. They extract their buthole glands and we get raspberry flavor. Exactly. They do it for the service of the greater good. They're like that Chappelle a bit kind of scientist. It's like they torture, but they save. and they say way more than they torture.

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