wellRED podcast - #142 - Well Here We Tushar! (w/ Tushar Singh!)

Episode Date: November 6, 2019

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You can also see him all over New York performing. at all the different comedy clubs. He, and this is, this is coming from him. This is what he wanted me to say. He wanted me to say, because I said, Tushar, how do you want me to promo you in this? He's like, well, first off, talk about how goddamn awesome my movie is, American Housy and tell them they can see it at the New York Comedy Festival. I was like, okay. And then he said, also say that I'm y'all's, I'm in y'all's top three non-white, non-Hispanic.

comedian friends, which is true. So anyways, without further ado, one of our best friends, if you've seen us in, he was with us in Dallas, I believe, he was with us in Austin, he's been with us in Minnesota, he's been with us in New York. Tushar Singh, everybody,

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They got three big old dicks that you can suck Well Here we too shard It's been long time with making it Tray always opens with Here we are So that was a little play on words for you Nice We're joined today by

Our good buddy Mr. Tushar Singh Tushar, what's up dude Hey guys, thanks for having me Corey, are you there? Are we getting you? Yeah, I'm here. Have y'all been in Trey's yard all day? No, that was yesterday. That was yesterday, yeah.

Okay, I just saw the pictures today. Tushar is out in L.A., visiting from New York. He and Trey and I, and Mia, who was on the podcast last week, and Mark, is that it? Mm-hmm. Shot a new show Trey's working on, so we'll just plug that right off the top. He's not even here, and we're doing his work for him. Yeah. Him and Attention Media, which if you follow Trey on Facebook, you've seen some of the stuff he's done with attention before.

they've got a new project called South and Off tentatively. I'm probably not even allowed to talk about this shit. Yeah, but anyway, let's keep going. We'll figure out if we can. If we can, I'll cut it. Beep and off. Beep off. How long have you been here?

How many days? Saturday. So that's three, four? Yeah. But you prefer New York? I think I prefer New York. So a little bit of background on Tushar. I don't even remember where we met, but Tushar is,

from Alabama Huntsville? Huntsville, Alabama. Is it a suburb or Huntsville proper that you grew up in? The whole thing's a suburb. And he's a big brown Alabama man. I'm a big brown Alabama man. What was that like?

I mean, to be brown in Alabama, at the time when I grew up, it wasn't much of a... Like, it wasn't... I didn't know what I was going through. It's only in retrospect. For those just listening on the audio portion of this podcast, explain to them what type of brown you are. His name's Tushar, so if they didn't grow up under a rock, they might put it together. Yeah. Well, what did?

I don't think, I don't know. Tushar is very, it could be chief Tushar. Okay. Something, something tribe. All right. No, I'm Indian. I'm the Spice Indian. I'm the Spice Indian.

Yeah, I grew up there. And it, yeah, being that, that's up Indian, we had a small little. insular Indian community. And then the outside world was just white. Yeah. And like speckles of black people and maybe a Mexican here, maybe a Chinese, but like majority, 95% white. How, I don't know what the right word is.

Good old boy was it like at your high school. Was it like trucks and hunting or was it just like? These were upper like middle class good old boy. Because your dad was a doctor. Yeah. Everyone's dad was an engineer, doctor and just this culture of like. they spent their entire high school working a job to lift their truck to get bigger tires to get a winch to get a winch to get a you know get it submerged underwater yeah yeah yeah

they got so excited about it and i was like what is happening yeah that's uh that's something we've talked about a lot on here it's like redneck hillbilly white trash all those words mean different things but also can sometimes mean the same thing dj lewis gutter bumpkin friend of the pod used to have a joke about he's like i know redneck rednecks is really They shop at Walmart and got big-ass trucks. And so that's what you were dealing with. Yeah, yeah. Newer trucks, too?

Newer trucks. Not always. All right, you said, what did you say a minute ago? You didn't realize it when you were going through it? I just didn't, like, growing up, as a kid, you don't really realize what bubble you're in, right? And then eventually you leave and you're like, holy shit, I was in a bubble the whole time. Yep. And, you know, when you're a kid, you just want to make friends.

You want people to like you, all that good stuff. And then I was, I think, kind of rejected by the Indian in my community because I was all fat. That's why? Well, no, no, let me. They're just looking at you. We're not even allowed to eat cows, dude. How the hell did you do this? How did you do this to yourself?

A fat fuck. Oh, great, a fat Indian. That's not what we need. No. They basically, how Indians in the community got together would be, like, through cultural programs. and those cultural programs would have all the kids perform in one way and another. So usually there'd be dances. These like 10 to 15, 20 person dances where the guys and girls are doing this Bollywood remake.

I obviously say, so Bollywood is somewhat accurate. I thought it was like y'all's Broadway. I was like nobody acts like that. No, they really do. People act like that. I'm saying like the music is part of the movies, which is part of the culture. So for us to hold on in Alabama to our culture, we would just. congregate, go to some middle school,

do the cafeteria, and go to the auditorium. We eat Indian food, and then we have a little program. Was it always indoors? Yes, this is not like, we didn't demand dirt. I don't mean that. That's not what I meant, but that's hilarious. I just was trying to imagine pre-Internet, good old boy, Alabama, just driving past a park,

and 40 Indian kids are out there dancing in unison in those bright colors with that music playing. Just like, God damn, what the fuck is this shit? My favorite thing to do is go to an Indian wedding, but that's at like at a Best Western parking lot. And there's a horse there, and then all the people are checking in is like, honey, what is that? And they're stopping and they're taking pictures and like what the, they're so intrigued about this show. Yeah. Yeah.

Man, I've never been to an Indian wedding. And it hurts. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that one day. Yeah, I'm hoping. At a Best Western. Corey, you've been doing? Yeah, it's not going to be yours.

So you just got to kind of like invite. us to one of your cousins' weddings that actually happens. Fair. Fair enough. Yeah. I'll send you guys a... Can you arrange for us to witness a marriage? An arranged invite?

Yeah, an arranged invite. That's what I want. One time at a wedding, I ended up... Because I do get mesmerized by, like, I've been to a lot of hybrid weddings where there's like a white Indian or some version of that. Okay. So that is like, you know, you stay in... Better for the environment.

You stay in the... community long enough, you start meeting white people. It happens. Like, romantically. So I have a couple of friends who have just gone into the abyss. They were Indian. Their parents are super religious. They barely speak English.

And these guys are straight up. They're living in Dothan Alabama. They look like you in Kyle Clackette? Yeah. I've met a couple of them. And at those weddings, at those weddings, there's always, the white side is always very, like, what's happening? And I always pick the oldest, most confused lady and stand next to her and, like, explain things that are happening. She's like, well, that's when the horse is, you know, brought here, and the groom can gallop away before the wedding if need be or something like that.

Do you lie? I lie for my own entertainment. But that's part of how I make wedding fun. The horse is going to break her in. Oh, God! The Indian Horse Whisper, I love it. but yeah I know growing up there it was bizarre

like in and did you know it was bizarre though there were moments where like one of my good friends um like you born there no I was born Pennsylvania and I moved there when I was eight so I had no like like like I don't sound like it

hopefully not oh fuck you fuck you man um all right but the first time I realized things were a little different between our cultures was when there was

big rain that came down and Brandon everyone like got their trucks and they went out to this field that's whatever and then we went mudding and even mudding seemed somewhat like oh my god this is fun yeah we're like it's the weather's bad let's play what let's play like this is insane like my dad would never right he even gave me a car right so much let like every joke that's coming through my head right now is just like I don't think I could say that about it's I'm going through it too. It's like your dad's out there like, no, no, no, no, no. The houses will wash away.

Anyway. So one of these rains, it rained. It wasn't rain anymore. And the itinerary for the day was to park in this field, shoot the potato gun for about an hour. And then just figure out where to ride around and head back. And you said, this is the itinerary. And everyone was like, what the hell was that? And that's when you knew it was different.

No, they. So the potato gun thing was just, how much? I mean, I've never seen someone so excited about a PC, a piping system. And they're so proud to explain it. And here's the trigger and here's a thing. And if it blew up in their hands, it's hilarious. Like, it's so, like, what kind of entertainment is this? Potato Guns rule.

And there was awesome. Like, the sound that happens? The sound of potato makes. That's a Jason Isabel song that didn't make it on the record. The sound of potato mics, yeah. Gypsy Speedboat. The sound of potato mic. And then we...

Write it down. There you go. We start going mudding. And one of the trucks, like, he tries to go past what seems to me as like a real 20-foot river, like with a real current. And we're driving alongside of it. And all of a sudden he's like, y'all want to go through? And we're like, yeah, Robert, sure. And he just turns in there.

I'm sorry. And the car dies in the middle of it. I can't believe anyone went, yeah, Robert, sure. Y'all went, hell yeah, Bobby. Get it, boy. Bobby. That would be fine if that's what you're interested in. Sure, Robert.

I mean, there's some water over there. Perhaps, Robert. All right, so, Robert. So the car, the car dies in the middle of the water. It wouldn't have got stuck if his name was Bobby. Go ahead. And all of a sudden, he's like, I'll fix this. And he jumps out of the roof of the car and runs into the woods.

And there's just me and another buddy who's never been. And we're just sitting there. He ran into the woods? He just went to get help. There's no cell phones. Like, like, and we're just sitting there. I met everybody somewhere in the woods. And I, I remember thinking at that moment.

I was like, this is, this is a different culture. I'm in a car locked. I can't go anywhere. And that was one of the few times. I'm like, wow. It was exciting, but wow. Oh, man, I got so many thoughts coursing through my head. I remember taking kids mud and they come home with me from college.

And my other high school friends would be. there for the weekend and we go up on sippy hole uh which is the name of you know we have mud puddles with names it's the kind of culture we're rocking we did we did too peanut butter hole and that's a good one there was one we went up in that's what it looked like god damn peanut butter i guarantee it yeah they were i mean you know chippy hole chunky we went up where the strip mines were and there was Jesus. There were beavers in these ponds that had developed over time where they had abandoned the strip mines. There were some beavers up there. We shot at the beavers. And I remember looking at my buddy Trevor at one point. He was so excited. So excited. And I kind of looked at him like, oh man, you're so pumped. And I go, what's going on, Trevor?

And he looked at me and he goes, we're about to kill a beaver! And it turns out years later I realized Trevor's not a good person. No. No. Where is he now? He's a principal in the school. The fighting favors. Okay, but you have that realization.

And then what? And just nothing. You got out of the car and went home? I mean, I went to, I just. Did he come back and fix it? He came back. They pulled us out with the wrench, wrench or whatever it's called. One time we got.

stuck in Scipio and my two friends, Brandon and Austin, and it was so funny because Brandon was working on his car because it died. It didn't get stuck, and he wanted everybody to know that. Something's wrong with the engine because it sucked water up in the exhaust or something by God. My car don't get stuck, but it might die in the mud hole. So he's working on it. He's literally like floating on his back in a mud hole. His face is the only thing out of the mud and his hands as he wrenches under this car. This is pre-cell phone, so I didn't get a picture of that but it killed me is all that okay so let me ask the question to you guys when you see a me walking around when you're a kid were there any of us like were there any non-black

brown people my uh you mean non-white people no oh but like i'm saying minorities who weren't just black folk yeah okay so where i grew up there were almost no black folk either like it was that white. Congratulations. And my good friend Robert was adopted him and his two sisters from Brazil. And they went to a different school, but they lived in our town, and then they transferred to our school. And it was a whole thing, I mean, especially for him, I'm sure, because he transferred to a smaller school. Like Robert tells me stories of getting pulled over in our county, and then when they pull him over, they'd be like, where are you going, you know, or whatever? And he's like, oh, man, I'm just headed home, you know what I mean?

And he puts it on thicker. And they're like, what the fuck? And then they always go, are you Roger Brown's boy? And he's like, yes, I am. And I heard about you. Have a good, son. We named him. We gave him his last name, Brown.

So we didn't have that. My friend Calvin, that I played football with came home with me one weekend from college. He lived in Florida. It was a holiday and he couldn't afford to go home, maybe Thanksgiving. No, no, it was warmer because I remember we got on the river. And I remember this because we took a raft down the river, me, him and my buddy Brian, and then we took two rafts. One of them busted.

I got out to walk back to the car, which was like two miles. They kept going. I was going to pick him up. And Brian was telling me the rest of the story. Him and Calvin were on this raft, a large black football player, and my friend Brian on this makeshift raft, and a dude on a boat, like, picks him up, and he's like, y'all need a hand, boys.

And Brian was just like, I'm sitting there living out Mark Twain, and this dude is like, probably hasn't seen a black man in 10 years. It's just looking at me like, what the fuck is happening right now? Oh, y'all. Isolated. We had my buddy Shrey, and I'm not doing a bit right now, but he, you know, he owned the gas station. And he moved into.

town when I was probably, I think a senior in high school. And I met him. And I met him as, he's like, I'm my name, Shrey. And so I was like, all right, what's up, Shray? How you doing? I started working at the gas station. And then I started noticing that every old boy that came in the gas station would call him Monty. They're like, what's up, Monty? And he's like, hey, how's it going, Bill? And it just kept me. And I was like, why, why are they calling you Monty? And he's like, well, it's a thing that sometimes us Indians do where these rednecks can't pronounce our actual name, so we just, like, get a redneck name, and mine is Monty. And, like, I sort of, I would understand that a little bit more if his name just wasn't,

it was Shre. Right. It's the easiest fucking name. It's H, R-E-Y. It's like, it's Shre, but they couldn't get it, so they were just like, ah, he's Monty. And also, why didn't he pick Sean? Right. But, well, no, I don't think that he got to pick.

That's not how that works. They're all named Monty. And that was just it. I have only met Stray once, but based on that story in the one time that I've hung out with him, I think he's a rad fucking dude. He is a rad fucking dude. I hadn't seen him in a very long time, but yeah, I love old Monty. I mean, the perception of, I guess, white America on Indians is very fascinating because it's not, I don't think, you guys can tell me if this is true or not. But we're not classified as in your traditional, like, we.

like let me tell a story so I went back in college I went to Georgia Tech I went back for a weekend and we went to our close family friends who lives in Madison Alabama so he's a gastroenterologist so this guy he has like a big nice house and that a stomach doctor he's the ass asshole doctor like he'll do the you know all the gastro related lower intestine stuff and he was the only one in that county for, I don't know how many years, like for a decade. And he was just, we were at dinner and we're all drinking, you know, we're just like, it was like seven, eight families. And he's kind of holding court.

He's like the elder, I guess, or the guy whose house it is. And he started telling us that he went to a KKK rally. And we are all like, what? You went to a rally? Yeah, right down the street. Like, he was just being so casual about it. And so, of course. were like, do they not look at you?

And then look at whatever they're holding and shouted about and I don't know, do something about it. And they're like, I look at all their assholes and their kids' assholes and their wife's assholes. What are they going to hurt me? It was just like, wow. Unbelievable. Yeah, the last time I saw you, Bill, I had to get a flick of poop out of the way so that I could help you. What was his reason and for going just to see what was what? Bill's like, yeah, I know.

Thanks, Monty. Dr. Monty. Well, Corey, he was in the asshole business. That's where they all were. He needed new clients. Yeah, that's true. That's true. My theory...

They always, dude. KKK folk always got something wrong with that butthole. Right. My theory on that, Tushar, is... And by the way, all of them, what I'm about to say, let me use the logic of racism. Okay? So this isn't Drew saying this is true about these groups of people. This is the thought process of that shit.

If one were racist. Right. I guarantee you're about to study the same theory I have, and I hope so. You guys, I don't think so because you sound really excited, which means yours is probably funny. Mine's probably sad. No, I'm not excited. Okay. But as far as I don't know, I'm sure Indians have been coming to America for a long-ass time.

But as far as on a level where people in the community I grew up in noticed, it seems relatively new. You haven't had a march demanding some shit from them that they don't want to give you, you know, not on a mass level. Whereas, you know, and again, I'm quoting someone else. upity black sure do one a lot whereas the Indians and again I'm quoting someone keep their head down work hard raise families and become doctors um I think I can't see it but I'm shaking my head yeah but sideways like a Bollywood thing uh that wasn't me making a joke he was literally shaking his hand sideways it's like a Bollywood thing I think I think it's that I think it's that type of racism where you you put stratuses of race you know and you guys

are at the top well you know like a caste system you ever heard of one of the top of the minorities you're you're new to them so new or new-ish uh in their mind you're one of them the more hard-working ones and smart and you end up doctors and you help me with the computers yeah and you know they think y'all are like uh you know like you keep your women and your kids in line but they're not muslim yeah they love that that's like the two pluses that you know what I mean? Right. Yeah, I guess I can see your point.

I mean, what you're basically saying is, we don't hate you yet. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, we don't know you well enough, but from what we know, it's pretty good and you guys are pretty helpful and respectful. And we do have a, like, a healthy fear against, like, as immigrants.

Like, there is literally a, just a fear where, like, you will get kicked out of this country. And there's no fucking rules. And there's no one here to help you. There's obviously, like, a chicken egg thing when it comes to what I'm about to describe, but it's like, obviously, from slavery to Jim Crow to today, black people have never, as a group, had it equal in this country. And they've been organizing to try and get that for a while now, pretty much since they've been allowed to without dying.

And with Hispanic immigrants, all that shit going on on the border, they've also been organizing because they've been treated a certain way in border towns. it's i think it's just whether i'm not saying there are no indian immigrants who are fighting for rights of immigrants in this country but you don't have a big movement and there's no indian face on that movement so it's like it's almost like i think they think you all know your place that's that's my theory i dude i that was exactly what my and again that's not me saying that's correct and it because it's not but i genuinely believe there's an undercurrent of what you said, which is like, yeah, I mean, you know, but they just, they work hard and blah, blah, blah, and they don't talk shit and they, you know what I mean? Sorry, but I think we are the, like, we're like 1.2% of the population, if that. Right. And we control like 5% of the wealth. That's just helps. It's a huge, like, we're not going to shake the boat that is doing so well for us. So we don't have a problem. We, we, we work really well within the capitalist system.

Speaking of boats And we ain't Muslim That's a big part of it Speaking of boats Slavery, no I'm just kidding Speaking of boats I went on a cruise ship With my in-laws

Which cruise ship is not my thing I didn't want to go anyway It was There was a very large Indian family on there Like fat? They were fat And they were the worst

Just this particular one Like bump into you And not even look at it It was weird And I'm just to let you know Among some of my in-laws You guys have gained notoriety on that scale yeah yeah you're no longer their top minority after that particular

who do we who do we lose to uh well that's like do you turn the air conditioner up or down when you're hot what do you mean lose to no you win you win yeah you guys are lost second place to the Koreans where i'm from at least amongst the uh you know when we were kids we you know we only knew of like two Indians, both of whom ran gas stations and both of whom would sell you beer when you were 17. So that's pretty fucking all right in a redneck's book. You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah. Well, let me ask you.

There was no room for grief. Let me ask you this, if you know, outside of the South is what, I mean, I know there's like a stereotype of the Korean grocery store in, you know, New York City or whatever. like there's like a I don't know if it's even true but there's a stereotype oh the Korean grocery store owners the most racist person in the city not a white person you know what I mean so the Korean community and the black community don't always see eye to eye is there any of that as far as you know if you don't that's cool I mean we Indians and I don't mean to take take anything from y'all but we are inherently real racist really we are racist based on I mean the percentage

that my like my uncles and some of the people have said of like I've literally gotten arguments with old Indian men at dinner parties when they're like saying literally shit like black people are an inferior race and you're just like whoa uncle you cannot say that and then they'll be like well look at your history books and you're like okay so they take that horrible sentence aside even then there's this kind of what pay homage to... What in their mind has India done in history to keep y'all out of that argument? Not shitting on India in general, but like... No, no. If they're saying, based upon where African countries have gotten in general, I would say they're an inferior race.

Yeah, yeah, I think the logic, his logic was like, they got owned by white people. They got owned. That didn't have a us. We kicked them out with, you know, they're going broke and taxes and this, that. But like, there's that. And then just to look at the few other races, like China, China, India relationships are very, it's very much like, eh, they don't really.

They're not us. Although it's the same like, you know, Buddhists are a form of Hindus. So it's kind of a peaceful thing. But we don't, I mean, just how I think about people in India, none of them are like, let's go to Shanghai. Let's go to these places. Like, no, it's always go to the West. So white people are still culturally, soft power wise, music wise, all those. things are like very very much and like white people are great you know in some ways

but they're also scary because like you'll they're gun violence all this stuff that's looking externally but then internally within the own our own culture there's a caste system right there's like crazy racism like just on skin color alone so if you're like a low caste dark person in india good luck like it is effectively like you are are, it's like saying you're black without being black. Like it's just your part, you're an Indian, but are you? You know, what are you? So it's like the racism that we have is our marriages are decided by that.

Did? Arranged marriages are always either like level by level or up or something. But everyone's looking for like that really pretty light skin bride and the, you know, like Does that follow here? Yeah, absolutely. Is that the Indian culture in Alabama? Yeah, Indian culture now in a kind of to some degree, but once you move here, you're slowly after the years, like all a lot of my friends are marrying white people, right? Okay.

And how are they going to raise their kids? But you're saying it's like that over there, not just like once you get to America, then all of a sudden it's like, oh, yeah, the whiter, the better. Like that's a thing that's just in India already? Yeah. It's there. It's like built into. Okay, because the first thing I said, I'd be like, well, we beat bullshit into people, but goddamn, no, I didn't know it was like that. The caste system is always something that when I first started studying, it was probably in college where I found out that was a thing.

And probably like, hour, too of thinking about it. I was like, the whole world is organized like this, actually. They are just calling it out and basing it upon your last name, which, you know, it's kind of what happens here. Like, some bitch named Vanderbilt ain't going to end up in the gutter unless, you know, he, you know, makes Daddy mad or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. Cass system's fascinating. But even if he does, he's probably got some cousin that he can go stay with that's, you know, also with Vanderbilt.

Right. I felt pretty strongly that time on the boat with the cruise that that's what that was, that it was classism that was the rub. What, that they were being fat assholes? because of their classist. Yeah, they were longer like, where, you know, we're better than you or whatever. Money really does fuck up people. Oh, yeah.

Throw a lot of Adam, they turn into monsters, regardless of, like, what skin color is generally. How often do you go to India? I went a lot as a kid, like, once a year until I was eight or nine. And then we moved to Alabama, and we just kind of stopped going for, like, two decades, for some reason.

Like, we just stopped going. and then I went back like 2003 and then since then I actually went back for I lived there for about seven months doing stand-up. Is that when you did the documentary? Yeah. Plug that real quick. Yeah, so made a documentary. It's a feature length. It's called American Hussie.

Hussie is for laughter, not for Hussie. But it's basically my experience doing stand-up here in India and just my journey. It was like 2015 we shot it. How new was stand-up there? How new was stand-up there? The scene there officially started. If you ask a comic there, it's like late 2009. Okay.

So it's a six-year-old. It's insane. At that point, six years. So my goal for the documentary was to be like, let me take a film. I've been doing comedy longer than the scene here has existed. Right. Right. So like that's insane.

But you didn't form there. I didn't form there. Yeah, yeah. So did that create? obstacles as a comedian for you to get over? It was rough. You were bombing it first. It was rough.

Because I don't sound, I use more voices and like things now, but I'm a pretty monotone-ish guy. And they like. And they like animated. Actually, the audiences there are so young at that point especially. They're not used to this form of a dude with a mic and there's nothing else going on. Yeah. So also. I mean, it's a young form worldwide in general.

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It's like a blend of Hindi in English. And a lot of them have just part of their comic toolbox almost where they say they're set up in English and their punchline in Hindi. So they'll say something like, my boss at work is such an asshole he comes in the thing and he's like salabendos like just the acoustic switch is funny of course and if you know what's happening it's hilarious right even if it's not like yeah sure because the boss is english yeah yeah making fun of him is our language yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm sitting there going up being like it was hard growing up in america as an indian they're just like looking to me like a ted do they understand sarcasm yeah i mean in terms

of audiences there are just as evolved in terms of like how smart they are especially the ones that go to see comedy there at that point i think i would have that would have been my first comedian instinct as you but to be sarcastically talk about how hard your life was yeah yeah that's that's actually a fair question because i remember when we when we did canada for the first time we had some comics tell us they were like just to let you guys know they don't really uh they don't really get sarcasm up there and i was just like what's a fucking weird thing to say about an entire group of people well, there's no way that's true. Yeah.

And I found it to kind of be true, you know, like they didn't really, like there was certain. Which is weird because it's a British colony. You could take and. Right. Power. Sorry. So a little background there. Tushar's favorite inside joke is to say white power to us or right power or light power or midnight power or whatever it is.

While he's with us, he says. power afterwards while we're all just sitting there trying to enjoy a goddamn meal. Right. But he knows that everyone will turn around and be like, well, it was not him. It was those fucking assholes. And it's kind of like if I fart, Noah and Corey will get the blame. Yeah. It's so funny to me because I, what I love, we've talked about this a lot.

But why, I mean, you guys have let me jump on your shows on tours and guests and do all stuff. But like the reason it's so fun is because you say that I bring out some version of racist has been in you or like I it when I talk to you guys it feels like my first friend in high school right it's like I'm the weird Indian dude well like a minute ago I wanted very much to make jokes when you were talking about the culture's being different and we're going mudden I very much wanted to start making jokes about your dad freaking out as like a poor Indian person just like all of this didn't make sense to him because and every joke that I had in my mind

was about how poor India is, every single one. Well, it is poor. Right. It's pretty damn poor. Sure. Go ahead. But, so that, like, around you guys, I feel a certain level of, like, I could be my, I guess, I guess, racist, open self. You're such an asshole.

But, like. I've been doing a bit the whole time. But no, no, no, no, no. But don't, I don't know what. I've done this as a bit before. You've also said very loudly in public in front of people. I'm just glad I can be my racist self around y'all. I just did that into it.

Yeah. And we can't just yell at the Indian guy because then we still look like an asshole. It's a lose-lose situation. Sure you can. You're describing our Comedy Central sketch. Our accents just make everyone want to be more racist, including you, apparently.

Sure. But with that, I also like making you guys laugh on that. on that level and then anything that rhymes with white power. Yeah. It's so fun to call out. Yeah. I'll grow out of it eventually. You're like 40 something.

You're like 52, dude. You're not growing out of it. Give me till 44. Six more years. You're like 63. You're not growing out of it. 18 years. Yeah, I don't know if that's the thing.

Okay. You should have been two doctors by now, you piece of yours. Okay, dad But he's dead Yeah When did he die? 2007 Was it tough?

I mean, I was living in New York I just started comedy Like within a year I didn't know what the hell I was doing Mom calls says Dad died Suddenly Like driving back from

Frigin macaroni grill Like traumatically quickly And then I just moved back home Like I had to My sister was there did assimilate to southern culture didn't he just dying on his way home from macaroni grill god damn just trying to teach you the american dream and i got back and my sister was still living at home my mom was still living at home so like the idea of like oh i'm gonna stay coming for like six weeks and just you know but it was like no i'm moving back home and uh yeah i mean it was a huge deal for me to like late i was like 26 26 years old finally got out of alabama yeah was in new york city Like, he'd dragging me back in. Right.

You just, you heard Dylan Banjos on the flight home. And that's tough. Yeah, it was tough. What'd you do as a 26-year-old in Alabama? I mean, I assume you had to get a job at some point. I worked at a telecom as an engineer, a telecom communications thing. And that's actually where, just because I had done comedy, like, I don't know, 12 times at that point in New York,

And these are like, I pay $5 to do an open mic. Because of that, or just like the idea that I do it, I started getting booked for all these gigs. Yeah, yeah. You were a New York comic. I'm a New York comic in Alabama, but I'm getting paid like, I remember once I got paid for a 20-minute gig, I got paid $2,500. I still don't, I don't get that now. Was it a corporate gig? It was a private doctor conference thing.

And they just said, yeah, come and do 20 minutes after the thing, Indian doctors. And I died so much of those shows. Of course you did. Because those aren't easy if you have jokes. Yeah. Much less if you don't. Those are hard for like a seasoned comedian. And I mean, I just did one recently.

It was a nightmare. It was not fun. But that's what I started doing it. And then I moved to Atlanta a couple of years later. But yeah, to go back and reset after my dad passed, it was like the prime of that thing. But I couldn't really not do that. And the movie actually talks about,

Because I wanted to make a movie about the Indian comedy scene. Yeah. As it started in 2009, amazing. Like, there's one club when I was there, one club in the country, literally 30 comics, 40 comics, running around five cities. Now it's totally different. Now it's like people are coming out of the villages and they're just, you know, they know that's a thing and they want to go viral. But like the original batch, I wanted to sit with those guys. I wanted to sit with the bar shows.

I want to see who the audiences are. And I did all that stuff, but my director, Laura, basically wanted to make it about me. And then, like, she looks at me. She's like, you're first generation Indian kid. You got a freaking MBA. You try to pursue comedy. Like, what the hell is going on? So the movie kind of pays homage to, like, my dad and mom's sacrifice.

And then as it... So you could tell those dick jokes. So I can tell them. So you have no... I have a joke in there that I wish was not ever recorded. but like it's it was captured so the movie captures

me going to India it can't move in there as a comedian at two in 2009 what is that three years in the comedy yeah it captures no 2015 is when

the shot oh right sorry 2009 is when the scene started there so it captures it captures me just trying

and it just it goes through like captured you trying I've never seen that I gotta see this movie but yeah it's

It's playing at the New York... It just got accepted in the New York Comedy Festival. So it's playing November 10th. Oh, congrats, buddy. Congratulations. So if anyone was in New York, thank you guys so much. If anyone was in New York, it's playing at caveat in the Lower East Side. 4 o'clock, November 10th, New York Comedy Festival.

Hell yeah. Please come. Let me ask you this, because you said that the scene at large over there in India didn't start to a prior around. You said 2009. And you also said that you go over there and you're kind of a deadpan guy, and they're a lot more animated and that's their kind of thing. And Drew was pointing out and this is true. In general, the art of stand-up, which is one of the only like true American art forms,

it was like created here. It's like that and, you know, jazz. It's still fairly new here. But if it's starting in 2009 in India, who are those people looking at? Like, who are their inspirations? What are the comedians that they're looking for, like, to get there? Like, why are they so animated? Who are their, who are like the idols over in India that they're going?

All right, this is what we're trying to emulate. Because obviously they didn't have heroes of their own over there. I mean, that question was always fascinating because they, because at that point, they have YouTube. Everything's on YouTube. So their study, what they studied, literally like an academic Indian wood, but the work ethic of literally watching every single George Carlin anything, they go through the history of comedy. So they may not have seen it firsthand. They may not have lived in the culture that birthed it, but they literally are like George Carlin is my favorite or they know obscure. Like they knew like Mark Norman before he was big.

Like they would be like they'd be following these guys because they're sitting there. Yeah, there are several comics who would mention that they love Mitch Hedberg like fanatically. You know, they're real comedy nerds. That's mind blowing because so much of what he did was in his essence. If I wrote down 30 Headberg jokes and just showed them to a person who doesn't know who had brothers and they read them

These are okay tweets Most of them would just be statements Not all them, some of them are hilarious as written But a lot of them it would be like It's all in that delivery And his viewpoint and his like Isn't the world absurd And can you believe we have to fucking live in it

Which okay, I can see how Indians Identify with that though Yeah Well I can too But also with George Carlin And Mitch Headburn And George Collin was fairly animated, but Mitch Hebrot, they're very, they're very wordy. And I'm assuming that a lot of these Indian comics, it's not, you're sorry to cut you off.

You cut out. And we didn't, I'm sorry to cut you off. You cut out. I don't, we didn't hear it. So we're not going to be able to answer the question. And I don't know if the audience did. It was just choppy. Yeah, we just start over.

We missed one word that was the whole word for that sentence. Okay. I'll repeat it. You said they like George Carlin and Mitch Headberg. and I guess my question is with English not being like, you know, the, I know that people speak English over there, but like you're speaking Hindi or whatever. Mitch Heberg seems to me like someone who you could only get if you were an American because he was such that American-type stoner comedian. And that's just, I guess that blows my mind that he was that universal. I mean, obviously, I know he's fucking insanely hilarious, but to me, it just seems like if I spoke in a,

other language, I wouldn't be able to appreciate Mitch Headberg as much. Am I wrong? Yeah. I mean, I found it really interesting because what I was talking about earlier, like the soft power of the U.S., all the stuff we export, which is the movies and the shows and the everything, the acting, everything that is out there is consumed at such a high level over there. Right.

So in some ways, they are American. Because they've been watching this shit for years. I mean, yeah, fine. They're a few years back, and they watch big band theory on repeat. And there's a certain amount of nuance laws. But if you ask the average Indian, well, first of all, to answer the English thing, there's only about 10% of that population in India that is educated enough, speaks English well enough. Like, it's a very small part of a massive population that can speak English. And probably a small...

That makes it even crazier to me. Yeah. So a comic. from India recently came and he's one of like imagine if you're in that first batch of comics yeah I want to know about you are now a megastar if you kept it up because there's no here what do you do

we're all until recently until the last couple of years like we were all like we got to get on Cohn or Kimmel or one of these things we got to get someone to some corporate guy to the script and anointas and go up the ladder there's none of that there it's all Bollywood

it's all old Bollywood right comedy is such a new thing there so they ended up having to literally create their own channels, film their own shit, if they want a talk show, guess what? No one cares, no one knows what a talk show is in that state, so you better start your own. And so because of that, they became

freaking beast workhorses where they're not just comics being like, where's my set time? It's like, they're filming and they're writing, you're scouting, you're the entire industry. And all the cats who might have been good at just doing sets. They faded away. They faded away. I mean, you could get some help on that here and there, but they're

viral ability is so high now because now they were the first to market, right? Yeah. And they're all getting very early on and they would all admit to this. They got it all early. They got Amazon Prime deals, a handful of got Netflix deals. There's five years in the game. Mind you, five years in the game in India is different than here because here you're chipping away 10, 15 minute sets. There, They are touring every three months and doing hours within two years of doing stand-up. Because who the fuck else is doing it? Right. They are better than...

And they are better. You find your voice quicker. You know who you are quicker. And, you know, it's just fascinating. Why did you leave? Yeah, you can be fucking huge. Hanging out on your mustard farm, collecting all your goddamn iTunes money from your Indian goddamn comedy albums, you idiot. But you didn't want to bomb for a year.

No. It's not that I didn't. want a bomb i i realized how much of a um an american i'm american i know it's gonna sound tacky's not tacky but i did realize that that's one of the underline culture it's my culture yeah and so i i i there was a moment in india where there's a few few nights where i was there for six months i'm doing comedy not even that often because there's no shows i started a show i did those shows i did i bounced around to shows but there's not like when we catch five sets tonight it's like oh there's three sets this week.

Yeah. And it's booked. So just go and hang out. So there's a lot of just me hanging around other early comic people. But I ended up hanging out around a lot of expats from other countries. Yeah. So Indians from British, you know, from London and like some guy from, you know, from South America, Brazilian DJ guy and actors and these people who are like,

Bombay, let's do it. Like they're there excited. And so I naturally gravitated towards them. And a lot of them have been there for five, six years. years and these people were all starting to get success or they have success in their like they're DJing and they're becoming like busy and all of them within a couple weeks of knowing them we're like yeah I want to go back but I can't now because my career's here yeah and they're like I miss my family and all that stuff I mean no no it's exciting it's really exciting and three people in one

night told me that because I was kind of poking about that yeah and they were all I was like dude I don't want to do that I like yeah it means comedy's a little different because it little it translates a lot more like these comics who are big there like the early batch they come here once a year and tour 19 cities in america but but and they have packed indian from not me indian like indian indian indian from india like in the last 15 years right and they were saying that that audience of indians from india who are that's a bigger audience here in north america than it is in india because they have more of a frame of reference for stand-up maybe frame of reference they miss the culture so much they want it they want a form of entertainment imagine you move from freaking calcutta and you're like

it's either watch the joker or what go see a band play that you don't know like you want to watch a bollywood band you want to watch a comic speak indie so it's it's like a really interesting i stay going the country music shows in los angeles much to my own chagrin every fucking time how are they fine usually the band's from elsewhere it's the crowd i fucking hate but anyway um so i guess it's a lot like most shows i go to but uh Would you, now that you're better, sorry. Now that, you know, you've been and stand up longer. Is it still, though, that you're, since you're not from India, you don't really, you can't really get that crowd and have them have that same feeling about you?

No, I realized a few things that, and once again, the documentary, it does explore, like, me trying to figure it out. But, like, I ended up, I went back in February this year, and I went for two weeks. weeks and we did we did a bunch of shows and just i think being older knowing what to expect knowing how to contextualize myself there being a little bit more animated a little bit more loose being a better comedian being a better comedian right um it helps i'm going back there in December doing some more shows i'm looking forward to it but what i learned there was like a few things like a you got to let them know who you are because you can't just get up there and start mitch headberg and joke it not that i do that anyways but you have to really contextualize yourself

Yeah, right? Like, I'm not really an Indian Indian. If you guys go there, you'll be straight up fish out of water, right? Everything you say will be through the lens of like, whoa, what the fuck? Or I'm American. You have to let them know that you're a fish out of water. They don't know until they open my mouth. Because you just look like a fish.

I look like the fish in the water. Big brown fish. And the other thing is like they really, I realized this last time I went and a few people actually told me, a few comics told me. They're like what you're good, what you need to talk about is not go to India as if you're Indian and talk about India. You go there to talk about your experience as an Indian growing up here and how that is presumed to be easy there. But it's not as easy. I mean, we're not poor, but like there are like weird cultural things we have to deal with. You're allowed to eat a hamburger, but then also a redneck might shoot at you with a shotgun.

Sure. Sure, like that. in a movie theater people are crazy they went during during trump during 9-11 I remember my cousins

were always like what the hell is wrong with your country it wasn't like America was beloved and that was the first time I ever was like oh my god

they're paying attention to us like yeah that's news to me I thought that the world at large really just were huge fans of us no 9-11 did not help you I'm fucking with you

sorry Sorry. 9-11 was very 9-11, buddy. We haven't. It was a 9-11 of 9-11. It was. It was the most 9-11 thing that's ever happened. We haven't talked about this much in a long time on this podcast, but I actually think, and the reason why is because it's like, what the fuck else can you say at this point?

But this might be a new batch of information. How do Indians in America perceive Donald Trump? Do you know? Do you have any sense of that? Or is it because your generation is kind of more liberal-minded? It's probably more in lockstep with us. So it's, I mean, most reasonable people who are Indian, and I'm going to presume most of them, are going to say they are anti that guy. All right.

And what about Republicans in general? But Indians, there's a whole, look it up. I forgot what the name is, but it's basically the Indian Republican, whatever, and they raised a lot of money for this guy. And there's like a straight up out of a cartoon book looking guy with a big beard. And he's like a Republican Indian fundraiser. But you remember, we're the most wealthy group of people, subgroup of people. And what are you going to do? Are you going to vote for someone to help out the world?

Or are you going to be like, this guy's going to tax me 13% less? So guess where my vote is? Right. So they're agnostic on social issues because they're like, whatever. and if it if it they they'll vote with their bank account which i unfortunately i can't really argue with but there are sometimes where they're like like that republican group hand in hand with trump they're like we are gonna we are anti-muslim there's like anti-muslim undertones because india pakasana and all this shit so there was never heard of that yeah india pakistan i'm kidding jesus cori he really

Thanks, we're fucking stupid. I'm getting taken. I'm going to take it here. But yeah, I know they are a lot, and I've met a few recently, and it's just, I don't know, it's just a little gross. I think that they voting straight up their pocketbooks,

I almost respect that to some degree. But there's people who are like, no, he's a better guy. Look at him. He's shaking up the system, and they're like, dude, do you know what this guy's doing? He's unraveling. There's part of me that feels like when someone comes here from another country,

Like if they've only been here a couple years or whatever, then they see a guy like Donald Trump. He just, I don't know, he seems like he is the poster child for what America is in their mind anyways. So like when they see that guy, they're like, yeah, I mean, fucking whatever, I guess everybody's goddamn like that. Okay, but for me. And they're not looking at. Go ahead. Well, no, I mean, that's all. I'm not saying that is a good thing.

I'm saying that is a, that hurts my feelings, but it's, I can, it's fair. Like that Donald Trump is to the. rest of the world what the average American seems like, this fucking cartoonish, you know, fat ass, money grubbing piece of shit. And so maybe they don't understand that, you know, there's a goodly portion of us. They're like, no, it's more nuanced than that. Come on. We think he's an asshole. I would give someone that personally, I would give you that if like you grew up in a world where, you know, and look, I'm about to make a bunch of stereotypes. But, Like, you had, there was one fucking TV in the village or whatever.

You know, like, an Indian doctor who's been here for fucking 30 years knows better. Yeah. Yeah. I know 30, yeah. I just meant, I meant someone that just got, yeah, of course, fuck yes. Somebody that's been here 30 years knows better. And, like, I don't respect someone who just votes with their pocketbook. Yeah.

But, you know, I, you know, but I'm also not going to tell someone who's not a white person how to feel, even if I'm like, I think you, I definitely think you, I definitely think you. you should know better, but goddamn, you've lived a completely different experience than me. So fuck it, do you? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, taking out, stepping out of Indianness for a second. Like, I have a friend who I grew up with. He is, he lives in Atlanta. He has a couple kids.

He's Catholic. I mean, and he's a, he's like a Trump supporter. And I literally have never been contested in friendship where I'm like, dude, you are like, what the fuck? man he's like actively defending him he's saying this is good this is good this good you can't even have a conversation with this guy you know like honestly because you i will just lash up into him i'll start getting into religion and this and that like i'm sure you guys have dealt with versions of this what like how i don't even those people cut me out of their lives a long time ago would you have cut them out i don't know probably other than other than family members which is mostly

andy's family because my mother is borderline politically agnostic other than abortion didn't vote for Trump, but usually votes Republican because of abortion. And then my father's actually, because of like the unions, sort of a Democrat. Like, I mean, you know, he's super Christian. Anyway, so other than in-laws, I don't think I have any of those people in my life. I just don't know how to deal with someone who I like. And I'm just like, God. Talk about it, but you just said he's making you.

Yeah, he brings, yeah, it comes up. I guess I'd never break up with a friend. Yeah. And I think I might. It's a tough thing. it's sad friendship is harder to navigate than romantic relationships of course it is because there's no precedent for like when you when you're a girl when it's over it's like all right well you got to go get with somebody else but like with your buddy it's like well i mean you know we shit right you're just you've been my buddy i don't know what to do about this like you tell someone because with a girl you can say it's not you it's me and we're just not compatible yada yada yada with a friend you have to go hey i can't fucking stand being around you it's the only reason that i Right. Let's just be enemies. Let's downgrade to casual.

We'll see you once every 10 years. Because, all right, like, I love you and then they don't say it back. Well, that sucks. Maybe they're only going to love you. Maybe you said it too early. Maybe you need to navigate your feelings more. But you're my best friend and they don't say it back. You have to leave town so you don't ever run into them again.

Yeah, man. I'm actually like, it's because we're on the road so much and I'm not really home a lot. Like I get super bummed out about not seeing a lot of my friends, but there's a part of it that I'm like, man, this has been really the best time in my life just not to be here because there's so many people who I really don't want to talk to. If I was here all the time, I'd have to actively avoid them or have a very bad conversation. But because of the nature of my job, I can just be like, yeah, I'm not home. I don't know what to tell you. I'd love to go down to the creek and talk shit, but I can't. And, you know, but we had a party this past weekend at my house.

I had like fucking 55, 60 people up in here, and I know that, you know, there's a goodly portion of them that do not see eye to eye with me on politics. And by the grace of God, it just didn't get brought up. And I guess that's just because, you know, by this point, they all know where I stand. And they were like, well, we're not going to be the one to ruin the party. That's normally what Corey does.

So we'll just let him, you know, do that. That's going to happen. Well, one thing I'll say, I think most people are tired of it. I think, like, especially if you don't have as much skin in the game, Like obviously if you're fucking living on the Texan border And you're the daughter of immigrants and some of your friends are immigrants and that shit Like you still got skin in the game I think

For A pro-Trump person or even like a liberal person who's just still mad Hillary lost And that's really all they care about you know I think everyone's tired of those people Yeah And so I'm hearing this and I'm like man not just fuck your friend because he likes Donald Trump Fuck your friend because he won't shut up about it it. Yeah. Because like my brother-in-laws love Donald Trump, but they don't talk to me about it. It's a weird thing to brag about now. He's a fucking moron. They know that. Well, yeah. They like what he's doing, but they realize he's a moron, so it's strange to bring up, you know. Yeah. And that's actually a good point in that may be something I'm not realizing here, which is that maybe they're not talking about him out of respect for me and out of respect for the party. Maybe they really, they just don't want to anymore because it's actually harder to defend.

in now. You know what I'm saying? It's super hard. They're never going to admit, oh, we were fucking wrong. The best thing you can hope for is for them just not to say anything. That's the redneck way. Just like, we'll just ignore it and maybe it'll go away. So like, hell, maybe I'm ignoring something larger here in that the fact that it never got brought up at a pretty much 16 hour party that I threw was that nobody had anything positive to say about the guy, so they just shut the fuck up. Dude, most of America, in my opinion, is hoping that he doesn't get impeached but loses and goes away.

I really believe most... I agree with that. And by the way, that's a lot of privilege. When I say most of America, I'm talking about white people. I'm talking about white people with money. It's like we just want to go back to bombing kids with drones that I don't know about, but I'm paying

my mortgage off and when I watch the news it doesn't make me want to murder my neighbor. Yeah. And that's another thing too is that Donald Trump was going to fix all their goddamn problems and that clearly hasn't happened and never was going to happen. But if Donald Trump's out of office, then they can go back to fucking complaining about it.

Because right now, they can't complain about all this bullshit because, well, you know, we voted for this fucking savior to come in on a white horse. So I can't open my mouth to Corey because then he'll just say, I told you so. But if Donald Trump is out of office, then it's back to, well, see, the whole world's gone back to shit again and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I feel like, I mean, this is not just them, but most redneck white people, we love being the underdog and coming from that place. It's easier to scream. Undergo dogs.

Undergo dogs. I don't know. It's just disappointing because like you think about America as this like diversity of thoughts and ideas all thrown in and we are actively avoiding each other like the two groups. And I don't know. I mean there's no solution. Yeah, I'm not saying it's good. It's not good. It's not a good feeling. Yeah. I should be able to we should but we've never

be I don't think there. I don't see a world where we're going to come to the same minds about that, especially because it's based in religion. I think social media, and Corey had a joke that touched on this, I think social media made us realize how far apart we are. And it also, with pictures going viral of little kids in cages, you remember how no one talks about abortion in the South because, unless you felt, unless like you were at a table where everyone thought everyone was against it. And the reason why is those fucking gnarly ass pictures all the time there's fucking a fat little baby on a billboard trays to have a bit about that how can you argue with a fat little baby every issue's become that now almost every issue has a face it has a gnarly fucking point and all that and people are starting to realize how important politics are and then ironically because they're so important everyone's going well i don't want to talk about it anymore then actually because if i find out that you don't feel the way i feel i'm not it's so hard i know everyone's like we just need to get back to where you Here's the fucking truth.

Politics is not a college debate. We all wanted to believe that. But it's not. It's not five people say these ideas and a judge goes, these are the most right, and that's how we'll do it from now on. It is a fucking dog fight. In some countries, it's a literal dog fight with guns and shit. And other countries, it's what we're doing here.

Psychological war. Yes, but it is a fight. And it affects actual people's lives. And I think social media is making it impossible to ignore that. And people hate that. Yeah. And so they can't ignore it anymore. What they can do is surround themselves only with people like them.

I don't know how to feel about that. I really don't. I hope we're winning. I believe in the kids. Well, that's another thing, too, is that people like to always, you know, you hear a lot of people, oh, I just, I don't like to talk about politics. Let's not talk about, I like this person because they don't talk about politics. And people don't understand that, like, politics is not just discussing, oh, what bill is up for vote right now,

or what Democrats said this, or what Republicans said this. politics and what Facebook and social media is letting us know is that politics just is our life. And when you say, I don't like to talk about politics, that you're saying, well, I just don't like to discuss all these negative things that I see. And if you say that, I've never heard anyone say, I just don't like to talk about politics. And that person wasn't a privileged white person who it genuinely didn't affect. I've never heard a gay person say, I don't like to talk about politics. I've never heard an impoverished black

person say I don't like to talk about politics. It's always someone who, a fucking course you don't, because it doesn't matter. You are right power. Right power. All right. Let's do it, man. Let's get out of here. Is that it? Too sure it was

good to talk to you, buddy. Plug whatever you got to plug. Yeah, plug your socials. The New York Film Festival and all that stuff. Yeah, so New York Film, New York Comedy Festival, November 10. my movie American Hussies playing at 4 o'clock in the Lower East Side and then otherwise I don't know depressing at my Instagram is a kind of a weird little project it's called depressing it's D depress and then my last name's sing with three S's S-I-N-G-H and it's pictures of me

taking pictures of old people portraits with or without their permission to Shire I'm let that up to the viewer it's an art it's up for interpretation it's up for interpretations um but no it's it's four yearism is what it is what it is that okay that's your plugs November 10th and then depressing November 10th and if you're in india and a December uh come to habitat when are you guys gonna come you guys are gonna come literally when i can make it happen okay like if i had I would love you The money. Yeah. Like if the, you know, if the book had done a little better, I'd just go with you in December.

Oh. All right, guys, buy the book. That's my plug. All right, buddy. All right. Skew. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go.

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