wellRED podcast - #151 - Do Young Folk Know Who Nelly Is?

Episode Date: January 8, 2020

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that you can suck. Well, here we are. I got not a lot to say because last time I led the conversation on the podcast, I talked about bread

for 30 minutes and it didn't have for people. I think one person said something about that. Well, as far as I'm wearing two people said, something about it. One of whom is my best friend in the world. So I hope you're happy, Thompson. Sorry, I pissed you off talking about bread so fucking much. But yeah, you know, again, I just thought it,

I thought it'd be funny that I very innocently and genuinely was like getting into bread. And then that later that very day found out that apparently getting into bread is a cry for help. So, you know, I thought that was, I thought that would have for people. Rine into bread. Yeah, but of course, me and Gorey. That is spent, you know, just, just talked about bread for way longer than we should have. I was about to say, you opened up to the wrong man if you had to go on for fucking 40 plus. We talked about that, too.

Like, it makes sense in a lot of ways, really. But again, we don't have to start up a whole other bread conversation. All right. Yeah. But that's what I did. Oh, yeah. It makes sense that I have to miss out on the bread conversation. It would probably bloat me just talking about it.

Yeah, just talking about it. Yeah. That's why we did it while you were gone. bread don't agree with you and you don't agree with anything we didn't want to upset you my uh yeah definitely that's what y'all's goal is on this podcast is to never upset me specifically you yeah yeah we we walk on eggshells my uh my mother-in-law is now making like not just homemade bread like she's cracking her own wheat well i don't even i don't even know about that i'm cracking wheat i guess making flowers that sounds racist yeah i mean right i don't but i'm saying and in the type of wheat

she gets is like, you know, old school strains or whatever. And she claims that it, you know, won't fuck me up at all. And I edit over the break, but the experiment was awry because I also, this is the thing about going back home to Sunbright is I'll eat like. Nothing hits. Except for the food. Was that supposed to be a pun? What? What I said?

No, so I missed it. You said something was awry and you were talking about bread. Yeah. No. Chowell's had the gears turning on that ever since you said it. We circle back. Was that or was that not a hit? He's got charts. It's the Charlie Day meme.

It's fucking, um, anyway. Yeah, the food hits. It hits, but, but it's not just that it hits. It's, I'm eating, you know, white bean soup with a pound of ham hawk in it. I just made that Sunday. I know. And that's what reminded me that I ate some of my mamas. I'm eating all that.

My mother-in-law's making fucking fried chicken. It's great. And your boy's going to the Dollar General. He's eating barbecue, lays, potato chips, which Andy don't buy. You know what I mean? Right. And I'd be grocery shopping at Target. I'd just go in, get five things, and leave.

The point is, I hate junk food and, you know, heavy southern dishes and special bread. So it's hard for you to say. Well, the special bread aside, it's just funny that going back home has me eaten both fried, down-home cooking. and that's what southern food is now. It's still fried chicken and gravy and biscuits and beans, and it's also Doritos. Yeah. Yeah, could poverty be that way.

Right. Oh, hell yeah. Shit. Oh, yeah. So, talking about food again. There we go. I made a big pot of beans Sunday. First time I had, like, Mamaw style, like you said,

pound a ham hawk in it, right? That's what I did, too. Katie was at the grocery store or something when he got finished. I taste them and I'm just like, ooh, we! These beans. I was like, damn, crush these beans. This bitch comes in there and tries them and just like, there's way too much ham flavor.

They taste, like, way too much pork. No, she didn't say that. She was like, I can taste the meat flavor. They taste. That's what hits. Right, exactly. I was like, oh, you mean I made it hit too hard? fuck you talking about

like she was like did you put all of those ham hawks in there and I was like yeah what else was you gonna do right exactly I was like yes I did this is how this works yeah it didn't hit for her which didn't hit for me y'all not well this is not a good thing for an auditory medium but you ever seen that gift of the monkey chef yes

I'm well versed in all monkey gifts right well there's a gift of a monkey and a chef's hand chef looking disgusted And Katie makes me, turns me into that monkey all the time. Do you, is that a Californianification thing? Of what? Like, she don't like meat no more? No, no, according to her, that's just, no, she was excited about the beans because she's from fucking Wayne County, Tennessee.

She grew up eating those same kinds of beans. But I guess in her sorry-ass household, they don't put hamhawks. They didn't hit us hard. Yeah. They didn't have enough pigs in her town. Right. But that's what she was saying is like, it wasn't, it wasn't what she was used to. Like what she associated those with.

And I was like, this is exactly what I associate this with. That's how comfort food always is. That's true. If it ain't what I had back of the day. Specifically, your mama made. Then it don't hit for you. And that's what was happening with her. But I was just like, well, your mama don't hit.

The way my mama makes spaghetti, which is like, I don't even know what brand of sauce she uses. But it's out of a can. You know what I mean? She fries up some meat. She puts green peppers and onions in it. That's it. And then whatever sauce, and then the cheapest possible. to, there ain't nothing like it in the world to me.

Dude, my mama, her slaw is literally just, it's just like chopped up cabbage, some mayonnaise and like salt or whatever, and maybe like a tiny bit of vinegar. I don't even know if it has, maybe it's a little bit of vinegar, but if so, not much. It's mostly mayonnaise-based slough, and it's like roughly chopped, not finely chopped, like most of it is. It's very, very simple, and I swear to God, I've never had it replicated. Do you know what I mean? Like, it seems so simple, and I can't make it taste the way she makes it.

it tastes all that love Drew all that love they put in that's the secret ingredient maybe a mamma's love but my dad makes the best gravy and biscuits that definitely ain't love that's hate hate well as Corey says is great hate also makes things taste good you know that's true oh so good people are filled with hate often systemic hate right yeah uh my dad's not much for I mean I don't want to apply that he he ain't woke McWakerson but there's not a lot of systemic hate yeah he hates all people. Right, which is fair. And likes persons, like four.

Corey, I think I could say how many. What? Oh, I was just going to agree with what you were saying. Like, my mom's broccoli casserole is not fancy at all. And I could have somebody else's broccoli casserole. And it could hit, like objectively, I could know that it hit. But if it isn't 100% exactly like my mom's, then, I mean, get the fuck out of here. I haven't eaten today.

I'm back on the fasting bullshit. And I just started thinking about my mother-in-law's broccoli casserole and my mouth was delivering. Dude, the whole fasting thing, I did that for a little while. I can't remember if we talked about on here or not when I was doing it. Interminton? What happened? Yeah, what happened with me, and this is not surprising. And I imagine you probably maybe don't have this same problem.

But what that was doing for me was just like, I'm such a fat sack of shit that like I can make it through the fasting period, right? But when it was over, son, it was on. I would just gorge myself almost like involuntarily. Like I couldn't hold myself back. And I swear to God I'd end up eating more ultimately in a single day. And also making my stomach hurt way more because I threw all that in there at once. And it took me a while to admit that like, this shit just ain't working for me because I don't have any fucking self-control. My goal isn't really to lose weight.

I just feel better when I do it. And I say that because the only way I do it is I just stop eating at like seven and then eat it like one or two, start eating at one or two the next day. Yeah. So I was doing this like past seven's my danger zone. Me too. That's like it's pretty easy for me not to gorge even though I'm really hungry at two because I haven't had anything all that. You know what I mean? Even if I cook a big plate of eggs halfway through, I'm like, I can't take much more right now.

Yeah, I don't have that. I may, but I get all the way through the, I get all the way through the mountain of food before I even realize that I shouldn't have done this. Well, what were you saying, Corey? And I apologize. Well, that morning time, the part in the morning when you're fasting, like, I can get up. First off, if I don't have shit to do, I can just sleep through most of that. Right. You know, hell.

But then once I wake up, I just have a couple cups of coffee. And I'm like, all right, this is fine. I only got a couple more hours. But then, like Tray said, then I'll be like, well, you know, I know. I need to have a big lunch that way. Maybe I won't. And then it just, I have seven lunches.

And then after seven, it's fucking, oh, well, there's a ball game on. I better have some chips and sauce and 19 beers. The morning fast ain't shit for, I've never been a breakfast or ever in my life.

So, like, I have no problem. I haven't eaten anything today. Right. And that's very common for me. Like, I often won't eat shit until one or two p.m.

Right. That's all I'm doing. But, uh, uh, uh, fuck. Um,

counting crows you want to count some crows I don't know you said earlier you want to talk about the counting crows I was listening to long December and then I just started thinking about the late 90s early 2000s

as I often do and just you know how it hit for me because that's the time that I was of the age for that to hit for what's your favorite song of there is overall

I think long December mine is round here I love that fucking song I love around here I love I mean I love a lot of their songs I love on December, too, but around here is my personal favorite. Um, is that the one, what's the, fuck. My brain just went, moor.

You're always on my mind. I like that one a lot, too. That's around here. What's the one? Yeah. What, this, I think this is a different one. What's the one about, uh, they got Mr. Jones. Mr. Jones, I like that.

Yellow taxi, big yellow taxi or whatever. That's a cover. Oh, is it? Is that Paid Paradise? Yeah. Yeah, that's, uh, who is? John. That's some 70s.

I want to say Joan Jett. Oh, shit. No, not Joan Jett. Joni Mitchell. Johnny Mitchell. Johnny Mitchell. It sounds way more like Johnny Mitchell. Well, you know how I be.

I don't know if it's either one, but it's definitely Johnny Mitchell before it's fucking John Jett. Right. Yeah. Fucking. Nah, I know there's more. Hard candy was pretty good. But yeah, that line around here towards the end where he's like, where she's up on the, she says she's thinking of jumping. She says she's tired of life.

She must be tired of sun. Something round here. Fucking love that part. Maria came from Nashville with a suitcase in her hand. She loved to meet a boy who looks like Elvis. He dated seriously both Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox in the 90s when they were like at the top of their game. He shoot damn sure did, yeah. With dreadlocks.

He did. He had dreadlocks. Is his name Adam Durowitz? Is that right? Is that, is that? Yeah. Is that his name Durowitz? Yeah.

Why would that be weird? Yes. I also always heard that with a wig. Yeah. Okay. I think. Back when they hit for me and I knew his name, I didn't know about Jews. I knew that Jews existed.

Yeah. You know, literally never encountered a Jew. I didn't know what Jewish names were or sounded like or whatever. I didn't know that. So I never thought about that until this moment. Yeah. Not that there's anything wrong with that, obviously. I just never thought about it.

I think we've talked about this. That's why he was counting crows instead of shooting them. I think we've talked about this on the podcast before, but maybe not. I also, you know, met Jews later in life. Yeah. And learning that you could be culturally something, but not fuck with the religion, that was really a watershed moment for me. You know, that's how I feel about redneck.

them. I fucks with redneck culture, but I don't go to the religious extreme version of it, you know? For sure. I think that I was like kind of aware of that being a thing because of my buddy Cory Barlow and his family who like I would describe as, he never said these words, but like I would describe them as kind of culturally Catholic. But we only had one Catholic. I know we didn't have a lot Catholics either, which is, like, Corey wasn't at all religious at all. Never knew him to go to church or none of that shit, but he came from this like big Catholic family who were mostly up in Indiana, right, like how that works. And when he, he had like, they would do all the, like, Catholic conventions and shit when he would go up there. And he had like a godfather and like that, you know what I mean, like that type of shit. Like he, I was very aware that they were a Catholic family and he would talk about Catholic shit, but he never, ever went to like Mass or none of that or like seemed. who believe or really care. So that wasn't as weird for me when I found out that, like, when I found out about being culturally Jewish, I was just sort of like, oh, right, I get that.

My best friend, like, until, like, probably eighth grade growing up was Catholic. He was born on the same day. He and jail now. And he was Catholic, but his mom's family was Catholic. So he did all the stuff. Like, he got baptized, but, like, you know, before I knew him or whatever. I think because it wasn't, his dad's side was Protestant or. nothing it didn't like I learned he was Catholic and I was like oh let's look a different church

and then that's kind of all I remember about it other than his grandma made uh Italian subs like meatball subs and in my mind that's that was what Catholics did yeah Corey's same thing for Corey half it it's the only part I care for family and his paternal grandmother grandma, Povellelli. She made, yeah, she made meatballs and all that shit.

What do you think that's Italian for, dude? I don't know. Hammer down. Povinnelli. Speaking of Nelly. Yeah, speaking of, please,

let's please do this. The entirety of country grammar. Yeah, he's going to be at Bonneroo. At Bonarue. Oh, really? That's what he's doing. Like, front to back, country grammar.

That's fucking awesome. Me and Bryce are already. That's a good call. Me and Bryce are already talking about. We're going to buy some Air Force Ones for the show. I'm going to have an off white riot

pumped. I bet that's why they've done that is to bring all the U's and Bryce's the MES. The MES, the

ones, the people that are our age that have left over the years they're like, we can get them back and this is how it's true.

Country grammar in its entirety. It's dashboard confessional. Amber brought it up and she was like, she goes, she goes,

why are they saying this about Nelly playing country grammar? I've never seen it where they said that about an artist. And I was like, well,

if they did just putting Nelly up there, would you be hype? And she's like, that's a good fucking point. Andy went, she drove like two hours into the desert. I know, happy Friday, but hear me out. To see, and paid a lot of money just to see Flaming Lips play the soft bulletin. We were out of town or I would have went with her. Yeah, that's a thing people are doing now.

No, I don't even think it's necessarily all that new. I've definitely heard of that before. I remember the last time we were all at Bonneroo. It's new with Rackvers. No, last time we were all at Bonneroo together, Black Star, Most Def and Talib Kuali were there doing that album, the first Black Star album, Front to Back, at Bonnaroo that year. I just remember we saw Lucinda this year play Car Wheels on the Gravel Road, front to back,

and it was probably my favorite concert this year. Yeah. Now, look, I'm not saying that, like, you look at a lineup for a festival, and it's common to see the words, playing this album in its entirety, I'm just saying doing that is definitely and has been a thing for a while. Oh, yeah, that's a thing. Like Old Crow Medicine Show, they did, like, several. shows last year where they specifically said this whole show is going to be us playing

blonde on blonde by by bob doing like that's the thing uh but i've never seen you know i've never seen the disclaimer next to somebody like nelly if you're playing somebody else's music it totally makes sense that you want to let people know you're not playing right yeah i'm for it yeah or if you hadn't hit in a while like nelly and you need to play the bangers that's what i'm saying i'm for it but i'm old yeah bring you know fuck it bring me yeah what's funny about that is i remember hate when that was a thing when it wasn't my childhood. What are you talking about?

Like, say when I was 22 and they were doing, I don't even know who my brother's age group bands were that I didn't care for necessarily. You know what I'm saying? When nostalgia first became a very marketable thing in art, remakes, people playing old albums through their entirety at a festival,

I was like, what's bullshit, because I didn't like it. You know what I mean? because I was young, and I'm just, I'm wondering if 19 year olds today are pumped or if they're like, man, fuck that. Well, let me ask you this. Because first of all, I would say that nostalgia, I definitely like a lot of things in the past 20 years or whatever, it's gotten ramped way the fuck up. But like, I think it's always sort of been around. And like, just as one example.

Yeah. When you were in high school or around that age, like, did dazed and confused not hit for you? They hit for me supreme. Well, right. I mean, that was 70s nostalgia that came out in the 90s. Well, that's the whole point of the movie Midnight in Paris is that no matter how far you go back, like, if you're, like, oh, it'd been great to live in the 20s, then you go back to the 20s and you meet everybody in the 20s, they're like, man, the 1880s, that's really when they were fucking doing it. Then you go back there and they're all thinking the same shit. But those are all new thing.

Back to the future. Back to the future was filled with like 50s nostalgia when it came out in the 80s. You're talking about nostalgia in general. I'm saying that remade. Happy days. That's very different. than a remake or a reissue or Nelly playing. I'm like, I'm really just wondering out loud,

do our 20 year old's pump that Nellie is going to play country grammar front to back? I would think probably won't think they even know what the fuck it is. Right. Well, that's why I was saying, they'll learn. Well, that's why I was saying earlier, the first thing I thought was,

it seems to me like they did this to get us to come to Bonnero. This, like that particular booking is aimed at us. because no it's hard for me to imagine that the 19 to 20 year olds that go i can't imagine that they'll give a fuck about that or like cori said even know what it is but but but then if you now if you go now if they go and they hear country grammar and it don't slap for them then fuck that generation they just won't even be there they'll be at marshmallow instead or whatever but if they go if you go two more generations like the rolling stones or whatever it's it's weird how like if it's the generation above you i think you don't give a fuck

about it but if you go another generation up i think you do give a fuck about it i agree with that you okay so that literal generations as in like you know gen z millennial gen x like you're talking about that big of a time difference are you talking about like i got i would say 15 years so when did Crunchy Grammar come out. Oh, one? It came out, hang on, don't say anything. It came out in 01 or 02, I know because I... Well, then it came out.

That's so weird. Maybe the single... It definitely was not after O2. I distinctly, I turned 16 in O2, and I distinctly remember just having gotten my first truck and just driving for the first time and listening to ride with me. I can't wait to be a Bonneroo. Think about that shit. On repeat in my little 89 Nissan driving around.

2000? Man, I'm a little... That's so wild. I'm a finger Andy in the cab of a pickup truck while he's playing. Well, I mean, you still would have, you still would have, you know, if it came out in 2000, you still have been bumping it in 2002. Yeah, it's just weird. It's in my recollection. And also, that album had...

Yeah, like seven years. Well, that album had so many singles on it that it drew out for a year or two. Without a doubt, that's true. Ride with me was like the third single off, or fourth single off that album, and maybe that's when the single dropped. But I... It was recorded in 99. Me and Thompson both definitely had already bought the album way before the single for that came out. It's just weird.

In my head, in my head, I remembered that song as having just dropped and it all, the stars aligned for this beautiful, nostalgic moment that clearly my brain has massaged into hitting a little harder than it actually did. Well, what I was saying is that might not hit for most 20-year-olds, but I guarantee you if the fucking talking heads were doing some famous album of theirs front to back. these 19, 20-year-olds will be all about that shit. Oh, yeah. I think that, like, one generation above you use nostalgia, you're like, what? But if you go back further than that, it's like, oh, this shit's a classic kind of thing. Because I listen to Pink Floyd when I was in high school. I hate to say this.

I do. But I think some of that, I think some of that is maybe more related to, like, the level of, like, genuine success or stardom or hit or however you want to put it, that the act got to. to Nellie, who was the shit for a little brief window of time there, he didn't really, he didn't really like transcend that. He had his moment in the sun and he hit really hard, but that was, he kind of faded away. And I think that is what has more to do with what you're, he didn't, like I said, transcend that generational gap that you're talking about in terms of pop culture. But a generation has to pass before you can transcend the gap anyway. And you're right about Nellie. Also, we could be wrong for the record.

These kids could have had, they could have been playing country grammar at their middle school dances and shit. I mean, like, we don't know. Sure. But I'm saying I think that in order to do what you're right, but in order to do what you're talking about, it requires time. And that's one of the things that it requires. I mean, the killers have and still are huge. I don't think any of those kids are nostalgic for the killer's first album. Okay.

What about this? I mean, I fucked with like, and it's might have been because of my felonious, older first. cousin but like I fucked hard with like NWA and shit like that well that was like when that like came out I was fucking three four you know what I mean like that was definitely like before my time when it dropped but when I was in high school when it dropped I was like in no when Snoop Dog's first record dropped not NWA but when Snoop Dogg yeah I'm talking about like 89 90 or whatever you know but I if I'm honest I feel like I fucked with those guys because they're single their individual albums were dropping

and I was into it because my brother... I think also when Dre and Eminem got together they, you know, Eminem rapped a lot about NWA and shit and when M&M popped, it brought Dre back to the mainstream and a lot of people our age found out about Dre's old shit through that and that probably has a little bit

to do it because I know it did for me. See what it happened was a lot of people they had forgot about Dre see and then they did they forgot about Dre Apparently Corey was one of them let him know Eminem came back in here reminded them to see what y'all have done as you forgot about Dre.

But no, I never thought about it that way, but you're right. I did totally forget about Dre at one point. I mean, that was what that song was exactly about what you just said or that's why that. That's how that song came to be. Having said that, like, you're 100% right. That happened with a lot of people, especially a lot of white kids. But I'm just saying anecdotally, and again, felonious older cousin, that was not at all the case for me.

Like, I was fucking with NWA and Dre and all that. I knew about them and thought they hit before Eminem ever even came out. There's certainly a lot of nuance to it. I'm not trying to be a dry hipster. That's not my point. Speaking of hipsters, there's certainly a lot of nuance to it. But I guess what I'm asking, do you not agree or does it not seem like? Oh, I crack the hull of my new ski boat today.

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At first I had all these opinions in my head. Then I was like, man, like you're fucking even remotely in touch with what goddamn kids think. Other than like what's literally popular right now, you know. So obviously they seem to be pretty into EDM shit because it's huge right now. But in terms of like what old shit they like, I don't know. But kids aside, I think that's every generation of kids. Like I was saying, when I was in high school, I loved fucking Pink Floyd. But I didn't give a fuck about the late 80s, early 90s shit.

What I'm saying is I bet, and again, I don't know, but I bet the kids that are like you taste-wise that are in high school right now, I bet they also like pink flow. Like, I bet it's still pink floor for sure. No, I know. That's transcendent. But what I'm saying is I don't think they give a fuck about the killers. Wait, so what did you say you didn't give a fuck about? You said you love pink floor. Like late 80s, early 90s.

Like what? Can you think of like a black? I know. I'm sure. Can you talk about rock, though? Yeah. Because here was something late 80s, early 90s that hit like a motherfucker for me, like guns and roses that time frame. I didn't give a fuck. I like it now.

I like it now. I like it now. But when I was like in eighth, ninth, tenth grade, it was like, I mean, don't get me wrong. Once high school football started and walking the jungle came on. But as far as just like somebody being like, what's cool, I like guns and roses, that didn't, that was like, nah, man, that's old shit. but you go up a generation like Pink Floyd is old shit but it's like cool old shit

honestly mostly most of that just had to do with my dad and what he liked because my dad loved all the old you know Pink Floyd and all the like classic shit but he my dad loved guns and roses he loved talking heads that was he loved like the cars all this and he was sort of my barometer for like what hit

or not well some of those bands are transcendent they were in that time frame I didn't get to until college RM hits I know see all the These beats hit for me too. Some of these bands are transcendent. Pink Floyd is the wall.

R&M is too. R&M is too, in my opinion. Yeah, but I mean, I just feel like maybe I'm wrong that maybe I'm projecting. But when you're in that high school college age, there's like a, there's like, there's music that's just not cool anymore. And then it, and then a decade or two later, you know, it becomes cool again. I think the way you just frame it right now, I think is definitely. album the wall. Yeah, what about it?

Sorry, we got a delay or something, Corey. Go ahead. Well, it just, Pink Floyd's the wall. That album just spent its 40th, I think 40th consecutive year on the Billboard Hot 200. So with Pink Floyd specifically, yeah, people are still fucking with them

because it's not like the older people are just rebuying that goddamn record. Also, Wade is now legal, so, you know, they're going to stick around. And every new drug. Right, yeah. Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd is just something. It's completely different.

Well, it's not a real change of topic, but a new angle of looking at it. And this is the first thought I had when I read Dashboard Confessional on the line. I was just thinking I did the other day. There's some better mind-off shit for me. When you get the call to play Bonarue, is any part of you, like, sad knowing that you're the throwback? Like, you're like, damn, are we really? You know, like, I'm super fucking stoked to play Bonneroo. Of course you are.

But is any part of you like, Man, I thought we had like five, six more years of having a new album relevant before we would get this nostalgia booking. I don't think they, if they or him, you know, if he feels that felt that way that you just said when he got the call, and like, he'd been delusional for a minute. But dude, I'd like dashboard confessor. That's for me. But I mean, at this point, like, he had to know what was up. You know what I mean? Like, if he didn't, like I said, he's completely diluted.

I guess that makes sense for me, and maybe this is me being deluded about how old I am. am. When I read that, when I read that, I thought, is Dashport Confessional and nostalgia? Oh, yeah. Buddy, yes. It's Aughts nostalgia, which, like, is a relatively new thing, I think, you know. Yeah. But it's here now. With Nellie, I just was hype. I was like, oh shit, eighth grade. I was telling Brian, you know, let's finger each other just to get. Yeah, Dashport Confessional, that was like college. I mean, right? I think very much. It's crazy, though, when you think about it. I remember being in like elementary school and middle school and, you know, riding with my parents. And of course, we'd listen to the oldies station. And the oldies station was like all late 70s early as 80s.

And so like that was old to me then. Well, fucking Dashboard Confessional is the same old to these motherfuckers now as that was to me when I was in elementary and middle school. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just weird to think about. This gets said a lot on the internet. And we've probably said it on here before too, but just to illustrate what you just said. 70 show?

Yeah, right. If, okay, when that 70s show, when it debuted on TV in the 90s, we are now as far away from the 90s as they were from the 70s when that came out. So like making that 90s show right now. They did the same show. It would be based on 1999. And it would be 90s nostalgia, which by the way, would hit, and I'm sure he's getting pissed all over town and they're not doing it for one reason or another. Because 80 shows bomb. Wait a minute.

That 80 show bomb. They also, that bombed a long time ago. very, like the past year or so, Netflix tried to, I think, a 90s nostalgia thing. Isn't it the Goldberg's the 90s and it's hit for people? I think Goldberg is the 80s. Okay.

It's network. It's 80s. Anyway, they did try some 90s nostalgia thing, but it sucked. Everybody hated it. I don't remember the name of it. Okay, but here's the thing. Anyway, that's wild to think about it.

But we are actually close, like, we're, hear me out on this. The 70s might have been super close to the 90s when it came out, but I think it felt further away. Because of the Reagan era and how much different. And the technology differences. Everything looked so different. 9-11 easily was as much of a cultural shift as fucking the Reagan era was.

And that happened between the 90s and now. I know, but technology. And I'm going to go on record right here saying that 9-11 did not hit. 9-11, don't hit. 9-11, don't hit. The 60s and 70s were the first era that we had videos to look back to feel nostalgic about. Yeah. You know, it was the first visual nostalgia that we had.

So I think that that made it feel in the, in 1993, like a long fucking time ago. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. I feel like, to me, the 70s and 90s look, in retrospect, look a lot more similar than the 90s and now. And you know what I'm saying? I think all the time about 9-11, I think all the time about 9-11, no, you know. I'll never forget. I'll never forget, but that's not what I meant to say.

But when people point out, like, how much it changed, like, again, our just general culture, it's so true. Because, like, if you look back at the 90s now, and, yeah, we were children, which makes a difference. But it all just seems so, like, frivolous. Like, it was all, like, silly. The 90s. Yeah, the 90s. Yeah, I agree. It was like carefree and silly.

Yeah, yeah. I don't think I'm expressing. Different from today. I don't think I'm expressing myself very well. We living in this time and kids, too, because. because of the internet, they can see what the 90s were like, and the 70s, and the 60s. Yeah. All we had was the 70s and 60s.

We didn't know what the 40s looked like. We had some pictures. Fucking literal, like, war propaganda. Right. That was it. There was no movie. There was no, you know, movie that we could watch. Well, there was a shitload of movies from back then, but people didn't watch them.

They weren't on. There wasn't a channel for them. There was, but people didn't watch it. What was the channel? Turner Classic movies. That was the whole point of that. No, but no. So it was ahead of its time.

No, but no. The thing that. went back in time was ahead of its time. Only old people were fucking with it. It's not like it was culturally relevant or anything. People were not actively seeking out, you know, that old shit or anything at all. It wasn't true at all, but it seemed to me, and I'm not saying I had this thought consciously, but as a kid growing up in the 90s, to me, like nostalgia was, pop history started with the fucking Beatles. Yeah. And that's not true, but because of video taste, because the Ed Sullivan's show,

it just seemed like that. And now we had the video, screen, I'm sorry, television and the internet to show me those things. Well, kids growing up now, they got all that. They got Nirvana. They still have the Beatles. You see what I'm saying? And I think that's why the 70s felt so much further away from the 90s, or maybe I'm full of shit. Well, going back briefly to the thing, when I was like, I don't know, I think part of it with Nelly may be that he never really transcended or whatever. To use another example from the exact same time frame, and do you think 20-year-olds would be into this if it happened at Bonnarue? Backstreet Boys reunion. Do you think a 20-year-old

would be like, oh, my aunt loves that shit or whatever. Or there would be some element of like almost in a like ironic way. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, maybe. I could see that. Maybe. If the Backstreet Boys had a Timberlake, which they didn't, maybe. You're right.

In sync, I think so. Brittany Spears, I think so. I think they would go nuts if Britney Spears play Bonneroo. I think 20-year-olds would too. I would fucking love to see Backstreet. Yeah, but, you're our. Well, first of all, they would. went on that huge reunion to it recently and sold out everywhere, but to our, to my sister.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was us. Yeah. And everybody's sisters. But like, I don't know how many 20 year olds were going, but if they did it at like a festival where there's a shitload of 20 year olds already there, I just wonder, like,

would they fuck with it, like for any reason on any level. I think the women would have a better shot. I think as, I think ironically, as a goof, they'd all go, like, look, let's see how stupid this is. And then they, you know, because they were on a bunch of Molly, they'd be like, oh, this is the shit but like yeah i don't think they would go but do we for like correct reasons like i bet this will be good okay but do we do we believe that like they all they are equally unaware of like the fucking backstreet boys like do you know what i mean like they were i don't know man nelly nelly

earlier we're talking about nelly and i agree and i agree i was like i was like no they probably don't even really know what that album is or they're probably totally unfamiliar with it but like with the back street boys, if they are, if some of them are just like, but that's lame, who? Like, I think they think that's, I mean, I think it is lame. The backstreet boys? Yeah. You don't think at this point there's some like, I don't know, like, dude, they were a fucking cultural phenomenon.

Like, if I, if they, if, like, kids, they were. They were. They don't know. If kids today don't know anything about backstreet boys at all, like, that's honestly wild to me. And dude, I'm not, I don't give a. fuck about the backstrap. At the time, I hate it. I think they'll know who they, I think they'll know who they are.

Yeah. I don't say. But like, where is like, okay, the difference between Nelly had his moment in the sun and so the Backstreet Boys, but like, boy band music, you get over that really quick. You don't really ever get over rap. You just get over certain rappers. Dude, tell Page. You know what I'm saying?

But like, dude, they didn't, they never got over it. Let me say it. Like, they still love. Yeah, you're right. The ones that love it, they fucking lose their minds of a backstreet. I think the Backstreet Boys might be, though. a bad example to using this because they were huge but like he said they didn't have

a timber lake let's talk about this if the goddamn spice girls I was about to bring them up buddy I don't see how that's any different than what? Then the back street boys I do but that aside just talking about your point or your question if they had a movie if the spice girls play

Bonaroo it would like 20 years would lose their goddamn mind they would love that shit I don't I'm completely lost right now I'm not saying that you're wrong they do have it they do have it they do have a Timberlake. They got Posh who married fucking David Beckham and became goddamn British royalty, so there's a difference there.

They're also very active on Twitter. They got Instagrams. The Backstreet Boys might, but I don't see people talking about it. Scary Spice has been like a judge on some shit. I haven't seen Backstreet do shit. Them and the Dixie Chicks and a few others originated Yes Queen Culture and, you know, that's not originated it,

but like, you know what I'm saying. Co-opted it. That's really what I should say, because black people and drag queens originated that shit. I think, and literally none of them listen to our podcast, that's for damn sure. But I think a lot of 20-year-olds would listen to this conversation and be like, God, these old motherfuckers don't know shit about fuck. Sure. Because, like, that's, yeah.

Like, I just think that, like, especially going back to what you were saying, Drew, about, like, how they're so, they have such accessibility to old shit in every way now. And, like, again, these kids, they got ants and shit that are our age and uncles, too, that are probably playing them fucking. Or, you know, Backstreet Boys and or fucking... Maybe I'm wrong. I just feel like it don't slap as hard for him as that other ones. And the reason I think that is because...

As what other... You're the older ones? No, no. Spice Girls, In sync. And the reason why is because I don't see Backstreet Boys remaining relevant. And some of these other ones kind of are. Like, they do dancing with the stars and all that shit. Again, and it doesn't affect this conversation very much because I'm sure it was mostly people

our age and whatever else. But the Backstreet boys, you don't remember that. They had this huge, Backstreet was back. They had some huge worldwide reunion tour, not that long ago. That was like a huge thing at the time. Right. But I'm not saying 20-year-olds were going. I'm sure they probably weren't.

What is the members of the backstreet? Aaron Carter? No, Nick Carter. Aaron Carter's his younger brother. J.C. Chazade. By the way, who's been in the news, the pop culture news a lot later. Oh, no, he was a lunatic. But still, you know, he'd been popping up.

It was, all right, and again, I have a little sister. Brian, and I grew up in the 90s. It was Nick Carter. AJ. Oh, man, actually, you know what? I don't remember hardly any of them. I don't remember most of insane. Nick Carter, Brian, Brian, with the curly head was the brown curly head was the front man.

Then you had Nick Carter. Then you had AC was like the bad boy dude. Was the AC or AJ? Chazez. J.C. Chavez. J.C. Chavez. No, J.C. Chavez.

He was an insane. Yes, he was. Jesse Chavez was an in sync. A.C. Joey Fetone? He was in sync. That's in sync. He was an insane.

Lance Bass. Lance Bass was definitely in Backstreet and he stuck around for a while for being gay. No, Lance Bass was an insane. Oh, he was insane. Lance is in sync. All right. Well, then, oh. Everyone we've named is an insane because they hit way hard.

Chris Kirkpatrick, which one was he in? Chris Kirkpatrick, you can get your ass kid. He was an insink. Okay. We've named every name. Hold on now. Hold on. At least one of those we named is not in, we fucked up somewhere because

I know we've named more than five people and Justin Timberlake. I started to say AJ who's in Backstreet Boys, but then y'all thought I meant J.C. Chavez, who was in Chazze, J.C. Chaziz. He's not Chavez. He's more of Chazzez than Chavez. J.C. Kirkpatrick, Lansbast, Fitton, Timberlake. That's in sync, right? Okay. That's insane.

All right, yeah. A.J., Brian, Nick. Brian. I don't remember their last names. That's all I know. What about O-Town? I mean, I remember O-Town for sure. They were a reality.

show boy band. I dug O'Town. Because I want it all. Again, at the time... A.J. McLean. Howie Duro, Nick Carter, Kevin Richardson, and Brian LaTrell. Brian LaTrell. Howie. And Kevin Richardson. Howie looks like fucking Artie Bucco from the Sopranos. Oh, man.

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Thanks, man. I appreciate that, dude. Well, look, the Backstreet has been doing a residency in Vegas since 2017. I knew that. So, and that's an argument against me. So does Brittany, right? Oh, does she? I don't know.

I mean, look, that's a sweet gig if you can get it without a doubt. I mean, Elton John just did it for fucking years and years. I'm not knocking a residency in Vegas. No, that's the goal. Right, yeah, it's pretty sweet. Oh, that's the goal. You have to be somewhat transcendent to do that. Without a doubt, yeah, like carrot top, dude, you really got to transcend the form.

Hey, buddy. No, I don't know. Culturally, he is transcendent. Yeah, I'm not. Black people know who carrot top is? Fat people know who carrot top is? I've also not heard one person that didn't say it wasn't fantastic. Yeah, I'm sure it is.

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motherfuckers you just get to hang out with on the red because they also got Vegas residency's that yeah uh the season is over but i found something out around over christmas uh I don't know about y'all, but for my money, far and way the best Christmas movie of all time is National Lampone's Christmas vacation, right? Certainly the funniest. Easily. Drew's literally wearing a national lampoon shirt. Right now, it was also our, like, you know, I'm Poe.

We didn't really have traditions so much, but our, like, our Christmas tradition was we watched that movie every year on Christmas Eve. You would sit around and relate to cousin Eddie? Well, yeah, like you fucking didn't do that. Of course. Hillbilly ass anyway, but I never knew this, though, just found this out recently. And in my opinion, it's kind of mind-blowing. So, like, I did know that John Hughes wrote the script, obviously, the immortal John Hughes, right? And it was one of a stack of scripts he had at the time, but it was John Hughes that could get pretty much anything made.

And the first plan, and I kind of knew, I was kind of aware of this part. I'd heard it, like, somewhere over the years. but the original plan was for Chris Columbus, the guy who... Discovered America. Right. The guy who made Home Alone and then later the first Harry Potter movie. He did a lot of, like, you know, whimsical great shit. Murdering Indians.

Chris Columbus, the director, was supposed to direct Christmas vacation. Came on board, was in pre-production, was doing shit, whatever, and met Chevy Chase. hated him, tried to get beyond that, couldn't get beyond it, called John Hughes and was like, I can't work with this motherfucker. And John Hughes was like, okay, well, listen, you know what? I got this other thing you could direct instead. It's about this kid who gets left home alone over Christmas, right? It ends up becoming the biggest, one of my easily top five other Christmas movies of all time.

And a flat-out cultural phenomenon way bigger than Christmas vacation. So that part is wild. But here's the part that I didn't realize or no. At the same time that was happening, Jeremiah Chechick, who ends up, he is the director of Christmas vacation. He was a dude who had made, he directed like theater and stuff, and he made a bunch of commercials, a bunch of ads, ads that were like, you know, popular in the, you know what I mean?

Like the Tide Ad recently, like, nope, it's a Tide Act. Like ads that transcend advertising. The M&Ms at Christmas. Right. Yeah. He had made some of those, but like in the 80s, so I couldn't tell you what they were. But that he had done that. And for that, he got this big deal at Warner Brothers, right?

And he'd never done comedy. I was just in an interview with him, and he was like, I'm not a funny person. He was like, I've never, I never had even considered comedy, never wanted to do comedy. I'm not funny. He's like, I got this big overall deal with Warner Brothers. and the first project I had was some Clint Eastwood, like hard-boiled detective movie, right? And that's what he was supposed to do. And at the same time that Chris Columbus was like walking away from Christmas vacation

because he couldn't handle Chevy Chase, Clint Eastwood dropped out of that detective movie. And Chechick got, and Warner Brothers was like, oh, we're sorry that happened. And let's, uh, we'll throw you a, we'll, you know, we'll throw you a bone here. We've got this Christmas comedy, right? And it was like a consolation prize, basically. And also, from Warner Brothers perspective, it was that, like, it was that, holy shit, we don't have a director for this movie, which have each other, you know, that's about to, like, you know, go into production right now.

It was, for them, it was like, looking, like scrambling. And then this guy pops up and they're like, you know, give it to him. And, and yet he'd never done. comedy, not a funny person, never been interested in comedy or anything, and it just sort of fell together that way. And that's one of the funniest best fucking comedy movies of all time. A huge part of that is the script, because John Hughes scripts were the type, people didn't fuck with Hughes's scripts, you know, like directors will take a script and rip it to prices, do whatever they want, but they didn't do that with John Hughes script. Especially a director who has no confidence in his

or her ability to fuck with said script, only knows that they know how to get shots and set up actors. I think that's a good fucking formula. Because the other thing is, you don't have to be funny to direct funny. I don't think. You just have to know what funny is. It helps. Yeah, but see, you just have to know what funny is. Do you know people, and I'm sure that I do exist,

people that are like have a really good sense of humor for sure, but are not even a little bit funny themselves. I can't think of anybody. Well, not a little bit. He's saying he's not a little bit funny. I bet he's a little bit funny. Yeah. And what you have to do is know which take is funny. Well, that can just be

gut reaction. I mean, we have plenty of fans who aren't funny at all, but they're great at laughing. You know, and they know what's funny. Yeah. Yeah, I mean. And the script thing. The script thing, the script thing is a huge part of it without a doubt. But also considering, like, how difficult Chevy Chase was to work with and all that. Like, I don't know. I still think it's wild that it came together the way that it did. It could also be people like Chevy Chase, even though he's an asshole being like this is the take we're using and him going right what am i going right yeah right yeah presumably uh he didn't really go into like the behind the scenes details of like how all that went down he just sort of described how it came to be but i never knew any of that i always kind of

knew like i'd be watching that movie every year and then his name it was like this is such a shitty thing to say not that that guy's ever going to hear it but like i never this is just how my brain worked. Like, I watch that movie every year and almost every time when it, the director's name would pop up. I'd be like, oh, I forgot that John Hughes didn't direct this movie or what, you know what I mean? Like, always forget that. And he, you know, I don't know, he still has a career. He's a big time TV director now. He's stuck around, but that's far and away his biggest, like, thing. Well, let me be clear. I'm not advocating for that. I'm saying I could see it working. Yeah. I'm not saying it's like the best plan. Right. You ever seen. I don't think they had, it wasn't

the plan, you know, it just kind of like fell into place. The only example I can think of right now of what I'm about to say is John Lithgow, and I don't think that works for my argument, but I have seen examples of very serious actors being hilarious because they play the role straight, because they play a very ridiculous character. And that was Leslie Nielsen's entire thing. Right. And he was like the first guy to ever really like do that kind of. And that's why that was a big deal. But it was not an accident, but like, he wasn't, he wasn't like in his head, this would be hilarious if I put, right? He was just like, this is what I know how to do. I have no idea, but he's so goddamn funny that I, it's hard for me to believe that he didn't

at least come to understand that. But when he first started being Frank Drebin and that, and that shit, he had been a like serious leading man in his younger days and was always a dramatic actor and was now in his later years and they brought him in. And dude, he stayed farting on TV. That motherfucker knew you. Right, yeah. So I'm saying I feel like there's examples of people who just play it straight because that's what they're trained to do. And it just ends up being even funnier because they've completely committed to what, you know, the character. This is maybe a little bit of a deep cut.

De Niro and the Fockers is a little bit like that. Yeah. And this is maybe a little bit of a deep cut, which is a shame because I actually think this movie's very underrated. And I know Cho agrees with me. And he's also not playing it straight. He's a very weird character. But another Christmas movie, is it the night of? of Corey, is it called? The Seth Rogen,

Joseph Gordon, The Seth Rogen, The Night Before, Night Before? Night Before or Night of? Night Before. Night Before. Night before.

I think it's called the Not Before. Michael Shannon. Yeah. Plays a drug dealer in that movie. Oh, my God, dude. And like, he's a weird character. But Michael Shannon's a fucking weird dude. He always plays weird character.

He's not, he's not playing it like. The writing was great for what he was doing, because he wasn't playing it funny. He was playing it like, I mean, yes, weird, but like still kind of badassy. and like, I don't know, like, mysterious, but God-Brandly is funny.

And he's, like, the funniest goddamn part of that movie. He kills me in that movie. Claire, are you hearing? I hear it. I hear it. I hear it. But let's just, I don't know what we can do about it now. There's a slight echo in the background, so let's just fuck it.

Sorry if you guys can hear that. But, you know, that means you get to hear what trade says twice, and he loves that. Yeah, that's why I didn't bring it up. Um, Michael Shannon is undeniable. Without a doubt. I'm, like, in my head, I'm wondering. Because now that's known as a thing because of Leslie Nilsson. Because of, you know, I mean, that was sort of what Chevy Chase did in a lot of ways.

It was like, let me be really sincere, but about absurd things. I wonder if Michael Shannon, you know, as a student of comedy or whatever, would know that and just do it. Dude, it's hard for me to imagine that anybody at this point doesn't know. Right. Right. I think that even if. Because like I said, that's Bateman's whole thing. Yeah.

Yeah. At this point. I wonder. But I mean, I'm just. I feel like there was people who were accidentally doing that. I mean, I'm quiet because I'm trying to think I'm not coming. I mean, yeah, I'm sure that happened. I think that there's plenty of examples, but they're all too shitty for me to name a specific one.

But like, you know, like the so bad it's good type thing where someone is like clearly being completely sincere and dramatic. And it's hilarious, but because it's so bad. They thought Rip Torn was doing that when he first started doing. comedies and then I saw an interview of one of his friends and I don't remember who it was and he was like no he knew but like everyone thought this dude is accidentally being hilarious

Willem Defoe in the Boondock Saints That's pretty good That's a pretty funny because it is hilarious Willem Defoe acted his fucking ass off But it was so goddamn dumb that it was hilarious Okay there was a fire Right Okay but that's not what you're talking about though right

Because like I don't Was that you think that that was I may be totally wrong and have always misinterpreted this but I think all of that type of shit from the Boondock Saints I think that fucking Troy Duffy

thought that was the raddest shit of all time when he was making it. But it was also about what I don't think he thought and I miss unperperperienced what you meant. I think he did think some of it was funny like when he slaps his boyfriend when he shoots the cat

yeah that's supposed to be funny but Willem Defoe fucking chewing the scenery and shit I think, I don't think Troy Duffy thought, oh, this is hilarious. I don't think so. I think he thought like, this is fucking, this is great. Yeah, I guess what I meant was, I think Willem Defoe thought it was funny, but still did his thing.

Yeah, I mean, I could see that. He was wrong. DeFoe is not a goddamn idiot, but he was like, well, all right, fuck it. I'll do this stupid ass line, and I'm going to give you the full Willem Defoe, but this is going to come out looking ridiculous. Yeah, I agree with that. I think he thought, yeah, I'm sure he thought it was kind of silly and was like, you know, if you got to be a monkey, be a gorilla and just fucking rolled with it.

For sure. There's examples of that, too, and that always hits for me. We were talking about recently the one I could think of. It's like fucking Raul Julia in the Street Fighter movie or whatever. Oh, yeah. Like, he like. But to me, it was a Tuesday. That's so awesome.

But anyway, he was like, it's been documented at the time. He did that movie because, like, his, like, children who are, like, high school age or something like that, thought it would be rad because Street Fighter was a hugely popular video game at the time. And also he was dying, or he had, you know, he had cancer and he was just kind of like, fuck it. Anyway, he shows up

knowing that this is all ridiculous and over the top. And so he just fucking just rolled with it, you know, and just chewing scenery left and right in that movie. And that type of thing really hits for me. And I do think that's what Willem Defoe was doing in Boondock science. Like Dennis Hopper as fucking

King Cooper. Yeah. Yeah. That's perfect. That's a perfect example. God. That's the one. That was hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, that's, dude, it's, it's fucking unbelievable to watch clips of that shit, especially, you know, being a Mario fan.

But like, what? It looks like, what boardroom of coked up executive was like, yeah, Dennis Hopper, he'll be the one. Yeah, I think it was ketamine time was what was going on there. That's such a weird. It's so weird. It's insane to think about that movie. It's weird that they did the movie the way they did it anyways, but like, it's fucking, it's, fucking nuts. I kind of want to get high in us to do like a bonus episode, watch along

that goddamn movie. I mean, I'm down with that. I hope it don't end up being something like, we won't be together for so long, though. No, it's all right, Joe. Oh, yeah, on that note, I guess when do we have next? I'll be in Portland next weekend, the 16th through the 19th at the Helium Comedy Club, opening for Greg Fitzsimmons. If anyone's listening from Portland, you want to that's going to hit. That is going to hit. I'm very pumped about it. That's all I got, though. As always, you can still go to well-read comedy.com, W-E-L-L-R-E-D Comedy.com, and you can, you know, we'll be adding dates soon for, you know, the second quarter year, whatever,

but we are on a little bit of break working on some cool projects for you guys. But the podcast will still come out every Wednesday, and I miss you, motherfucker so much already. I miss you, too, Joe. I ain't got shit going on. I ain't true. I mean, I'm working on stuff, but I got nothing to the plug. I'm going to be doing shows in and around the L.A. area,

if we have any listeners out here. and I'll tweet about them as they come up. Man, I did a fun one Sunday. I'll just plug a show that is already passed, but it's every Sunday at Verdugo Bar. You should do it. My buddy Aaron runs it. And man, I got there.

It was on a patio, and it was a little bit cold that night by L.A. standards. And I was like, this is going to be a nightmare. Yeah. And not only did the crowd come through, every comic but one. I'll tell you who later, was Flames. Hell yeah. I can't wait to hear who. All righty.

Oh, no, no, real quick. Aaron has this joke. Aaron is a bigger dude. He plays basketball. He's like six foot five, but he also used to be a big dude. He has this joke about people liking him more the skinnier he gets. Remember I had that theory about that, but Corey, your life seems to go the opposite way. For sure, without a doubt.

Yeah, I just wait in it, I just wait in at 2.30 at my most recent doctor's appointment. and that is... I like you right now more than a half of ears. The rib picture that you like so much is I weighed 238, so I'm almost the fattest I've ever been. But I haven't had like fucking... Eight more pounds. Taking to it. No, I've stopped.

Hey, I haven't stepped on the scale in a minute, but since my January first meal, you know, Mama makes the fucking black-eyed peas and all that shit. And we had a shit ton of cornbread and mashed potatoes and whatnot. I've gone to the gym every single day. and I have been eating good protein shake at lunch and protein high protein low carb meals at night. I haven't drank. I haven't had any of my sweets and you know I'm a sweet boy. Sweet boy. But I don't know, man.

I'm doing good. Come March when we go back on tour, you're going to see some fucking shit. I'm going to have, I ain't going to have abs, but I'll have maybe one. Abs is so far. I know. That would take fucking 18 months. months, dog. Like, you will lose weight, and I'm happy for you.

You will have lost weight when we see you in March. But, like, two months. Now, I'll have abs. You can't. You will not have broken. Why people don't have abs after 30? You won't be under 200. And I'm not saying you can't get under 200.

I'm saying in March, in March, you will not be under 200. Nope. Nope. Ah, yeah. You won't. I'll be under 200. No, you won't. I'll be 199.

That's not even a knock on you. What's the gym in Chickabaga? That's the thing. Like, you're so defensive. That's not even a knock. Is it like a trailer where you just carry a kerosene heater back and forth till you burn the place? I'm not kidding. I mean,

but at least there was for years a fucking gym in Salina that was a single wide trailer that somebody just, you know, somebody's fucking uncle died or something. It was in the middle town and they just put a bench in there or whatever. It put the, Clay County Fitness Center on this. This gym is not in Chickamauga at all. Because, yeah, it'd be that. To plug into the Abisket, the other podcast, I'm.

doing with gutter bumpkin DJ Lewis. It comes out on Tuesdays. You can listen to both. The reason that reminded me of it, we do fake commercials on there, and one of them is coming up soon is for the kerosene gym. Right on. Hits. Hits.

Corey, if you are 205 in March, that will be phenomenal progress, and you should be very proud of yourself. Corey, I'll be $1.99. Corey, if you're going to go for it, and I'm for you because it's against Trey, you got to get it before our new... It's against you, too.

Before our... Before our... Wait, are we in New Orleans in March or May? March. I think so... It's in March. That's not... Okay, so you have to get there before New Orleans.

Because if you get to New Orleans, you ain't getting the 199. Hell no. No, buddy, let me tell you something right now. If I'm 205 the week before we go to New Orleans, my ass is going to be dead sprinting with a fucking garbage bag so I can have some Ed Too-Fay. If you ran to New Orleans, weighing 205, you still wouldn't weigh $1.99. Because you'd stop in Alabama and get some white sauce barbecue.

I know that's right, baby. All right. Well, love y'all. See you next one. $1.99. Suck my dick, tray. No way. No way in hell. We'll see what happens. We'll keep y'all past it.

If you get down to $1.99, I'll be able to find it, so I will. Oh, here we go. Ski-oo. Is New Orleans really the next show we have? It'll be 218. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Fuck. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you, God bless you. Good night and skew. Fuck that one up. Love you.

Bye. Skew.