wellRED podcast - #170 - You Can't Say That On Television! + A Bonus Chat w/ Mo Mandel!

Episode Date: May 20, 2020

This week the boys discuss The Wire, people not taking the pandemic serious, Corey getting fatter, and the ever present debate amongst comedians about whether or not political correctness is making it harder to entertain/if its worse now than it was back in "the day"THEN our buddy Mo Mandel drops in to talk about his new show Small Town Throwdown (which premieres TONIGHT 5/20 on The Discovery Channel at 10 pm)

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which if you're listening to this on Wednesday, May 20th, it comes on tonight at 10 p.m. on the Discovery Channel. A small town throwdown. I'm just going to let Mo explain to you what the show is, but I'll say this. We're all very jealous that we're not hosting this show. So enjoy the podcast, and then enjoy a bonus conversation with Mo. Check at all our YouTube's.

Follow us on Twitter and the Instagrams and all that good stuff. And stay safe, and we love you. And skew-hoo. They're the... Rednecks they like cornbread but sex they care way too much but don't give a fuck They're the next that makes some people upset they got three big old dicks that you can suck What's up? No not much you got like the You got like the Tim Curry

yeah titten you know I hadn't even honestly hadn't even noticed that I've been avoiding the mirror at all times

all this hair is supposed to grow here grow on your lip instead you'll be you'll be happy to know Trey that as of last night I was exactly to the number uh

rib picture fat yeah it does hit. But also that means I got, boy, I'm really, I'm really in the throes of a depression right now. I got to fix almost damn near everything about myself. Yeah, I've actually been doing all right as far as that goes, but it will mean nothing.

And I tell you what it is. It's the wire. I owe my potential. Yeah. Why? 100% because, so what I did was, is we going? Are we recording? Yeah, why not?

Where not? All right. Yeah, well, what I did was I've been, the wire was number one on my list of, you know, like, oh, I got to get to that for like, whatever, 15 years. Yeah. Never been supplanted as number one on that list because it's like a pretty egregious omission. I feel like if you, you know. Yeah.

yourself a TV buff and whatnot. So pandemic, yada, y, whatever. I tried to watch it with Katie, and I do not understand why, but Katie just can't get into it. And I say that because, like, Katie, like, Katie likes a lot of garbage, but Katie also typically,

if something's, like, really good, she also likes it. It's not that she doesn't like good stuff. It's just she does, like, bad stuff. And she loves cop shit, like law and order and that type of shit. And to me, I was like, well, this is, you know, that but really, really good.

Cranked up, yeah. Oscar worthy that. Yeah, right. So she'll dig this, but she just couldn't get into it. And so I gave up on that effort, and that was like pre-pandemic. And then during the pandemic, I decided, and this is what I've been building to for way too long now. I made myself a rule that I decided I was going to watch the, I was going to watch the wire,

but I made myself a rule that I could only watch the wire while exercising. So like on the elliptical with it on the thing in front of me. Oh, wow. Don't allow myself. Is that? Oh, great. Anyway, I do not allow myself to watch it otherwise. And, you know, turns out it is.

It's a really good show. Right. A really good and engaging show. So it has made a hit makes it so much easier to actually get my fat ass on the elliptical because wanting to see what is going to happen with. McNulty and Stringer and them outweighs my like fat laziness. Right. And so I'm, uh, every, each season has 12 or 13 episodes and I'm, uh, just started season three.

So, oh, wow. You know, 24 hours and only watched from the elliptical or normally what I do, my system is I do the first 40 minutes on the elliptical, then I get off and I'll do one like free weight thing like curls or some shit. standing there still watching it. Right. But doing some such. And that takes me to about the end of each hour long episode.

Now I go in the house. Yeah, you're about ready for prison. Yeah. With that system. It's, uh, yeah, well, what also hits I found is if, but I, normally by the time I'm done, I time it to where I'm done in episodes over at the same time. But what I found though in the Wire season one where it's like the really, really like hood shit, you watch an episode of that while on the elliptical and then uh then turn on music to lift weights

and listen to like Annie up by M-O-P if y'all remember that yeah yeah that'll do it that'll do and uh you really really go hard it's definitely a mood uh for sure but like I'm still I'm still I'm not eating well or anything like that like I'm not so all I'm doing is like keeping it at bay that that that right i don't think i'm making any positive progress i'm just i've stopped spiraling out of control which is what i was doing for the first part of the quarantine until i started this i definitely i mean i i think what you just said would work for me like if i was just like dude you can't this is a rule the only way you can fuck with insert whether it be the wire or whatever the whatever i want to do next you can only do it in this situation i think that

would work, but also it's gotten so bad for me that it's, yeah, exercises alone is not, is not going to do it. Like, I, I've really got to change everything about me because I've just like, it was, it was so fun. Like at first, it was like, I was so hype. Like, okay, let me rephrase that. I wasn't like, fuck yeah, there's a new kind of flu. Sweet, I can eat a bunch of pizza.

But it was like, well, Silver Line and while we're here, everybody's going to get fat, so it's no big deal. And then, but I thought, I was like, well, okay, well, this won't last too long, but like, it's just kept going on and I've kept going in and I can't fucking quit. So, like, I'm going to just rip it off like a Band-Aid, man, because, like, I feel like shit, I look like shit. I'm as fat, not fat than I've ever been, but as fat. I tied my record fat last night. One over one more.

One more pound? Yeah, you're so close. Yeah, that's true. I should get one more pound before I. Yeah, you're right, I'll do that. I've told you about how I quit working out, like, when we played football and shit like that, my coach is really on my ass about getting my bench up, and I got up to $2.95. Like, I could bench $2.95, and I never got to $300 because football season was over and shit.

Am I frozen? You did freeze up, yeah. You said you could bench $295 and then something, something football season was over. I could bench 295, and then the second that I was able to get up to 295, it also coincided with football was over and also my weight training class or whatever was over. And so I just quit working out. My coach was like, don't you want to just like get up to 300? You're so close.

I was like, no, I didn't even want to get this far. This was pretty much all used. I'm just a huge quitter, I guess. But with fat, I could probably pull off that last pound. I think you can. Yeah. I believe in you. I believe in you, too.

I've been working out while watching Vikings with Andy, Trace. I just been doing like circuits or whatever. A lot of core stuff, as they say, but I've been eating and drinking like a caffeine. But then she left me, Annie left. Ever? He left, you know, I don't want to get any personal business. A very, very, very horrible thing happened. And she needed to be back home for a bit.

and I was like, well, I'm not going to fucking fall off the wagon here. I know what's about to happen. So I went to the woods. I gassed up my car here and I put all the food that I needed into it. I went to the woods. I slept in my car on the river with Mick. I think I saw three other human beings. It was pretty rad and I didn't take any booze with me.

And I was there for two and a half days and felt good and I was hiking and all that stuff. And then I came back. And on the way back, my buddy shotgun texted me and said, there's this deal on pizza. Let's get these pizzas tomorrow. And I'll just like leave it on your doorstep. It's like a two for one thing in Gino's or whatever. And I was like, cool.

Andy will be back to the next day. She can have a leftover. So that's great. And then he calls me and he's like, yo, I'm about to go get it. And I'm like, what? You said tomorrow. He said, I sent that yesterday.

I had just gotten it because I had been in the woods. So I got home and pizza was waiting. me and I was starving because I was rushing back because it was going to get cold. And I ate half of a deep dish pizza immediately. And then Mike O. Raleigh asked me if I was a fan of Billy Joe Shaver. And I started talking about how much Billy Joe Shaver hits for me. And he was like, what's your song? So I sent him Raggedy Old Truck.

In the moment, I heard him start singing Raggedy Old Truck. I started drinking whiskey from the bottom. And all the beer in my house, I got hanging. on my couch by myself, woke up at like three in the morning, like, and had a horrible Saturday, just smoking pot, eating the rest of the pizza, feeling terrible. Sunday, and now I'm back. I had a salad earlier.

That's what I do. I'm this. This is me. Yeah, that's a huge trigger for me, too. Like, I'm not popular. And, like, people don't, I think there's some people that's fine. I think there's some people that don't understand or they think it's weird that, like, hearing country music can trigger you that hard, but it's honestly probably,

my number one trigger. Like, if I'm doing, if I'm doing pretty good on not boozing, like, I could have somebody close to me die. I could, like, a lot of things could happen. I'd be like, you know what? And I'll keep this going. But like, queen of my double-eyed trailer comes on, glug, glug, glug. I want to get fucked up.

Yeah. I was glad Andy one here, because that's the other thing about that song. It makes you want a fist fighter. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that too. It's a pretty good man-hit women don't hit song. You said men hit, comma, women don't hit, but you said men hit women. Men hit women, yeah, which don't hit.

I mentioned that old rap song Annie Up by MOP earlier, you know, and again, it goes hard. Do you know the alternate title of that song? Fuck this shit? I don't know. It's Annie Up parentheses Robin Hood's theory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, I've just always thought, now, that's like, that's, you know, that's a classic rap song. It's very popular, known rap song.

And it's a great title for a great song. But I've always kind of thought that, like, it's a little bit of a shame that that wasn't utilized in, for some kind of, like, larger, like, a big rapper or a touchdown album or something. Like, I feel like that, that name Robin Hoods is, you know, painfully underused. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. That's pretty sweet, man. Yeah, it could have been deployed, you know, again, I feel like somebody could have used that as a rap name or a mixtape or something. It's pretty rare.

Was Annie up on our going to learn? Yeah, going to learn. Yes, yes, it was. It's been a minute since I've listened to Annie up or revisited that playlist, and I think we should. I guess I just wish that we had like an excuse to make a playlist to go somewhere together. I'm starting to miss you, which is weird. Yeah, I know. I'm starting to miss doing stuff too, which for me, you know. Yeah, it's taken me up until this moment, but 70 days or however long is roughly my, not my breaking point.

I'm nowhere near breaking, but yeah, I would like to, you know, do a thing. Driven up the wall. I guess, Trey, it would be harder for you to do it in a way that you might be morally comfortable with with kids. but like I'm about to go camping again what I mean is like you might like you might get somewhere and like you just have to go do the stuff you know what I mean whereas like I went and it was like I mean I literally didn't do anything

except go you know what I'm saying I didn't see nobody I waved at a dude across the river at one point you know um yeah I don't know yeah I don't either I anybody if uh yeah the other thing is I'm not I'm not shaving at all. So I'm getting like pretty feral because that's a quarantine thing. I can't get a haircut either.

So I'm just like fucking. I'm letting it all go and seeing what happens. And you're not supposed to touch your face. But I guess it don't matter when you're your own house, which is good. I was going to. I can't. Yeah, right.

I mean, I know that that's the case. But like I just can't stop touching my face with this. I've fucking beard and mustache. I was fucking with it all the time. I'm starting to look a little, little silly. But that's all right.

I got some beard oil for the first time. No, think you should let this rip. I like what's going on here. Well, it's like, I got the beard oil, because I'm hoping it actually will do something about this. It's at a point where it's like, it's kind of like, it's not, I don't know, it's sort of scratchy. It don't feel great when you touch it. It feels like it may not, but you'll get used to that. Yeah, you wake up in the morning and it's kind of matted and it kind of hurts. It's just not a great texture. It hurts in the morning? Maybe I don't know.

No, not mine. I sleep really fucking hard. Like, I've never woken up and not had, like, all the lines on my face. Because apparently, like, I just smash my fucking head down into the pillar or something. And so I wake up and, like, when my beard's a little bit longer, it'll be, like, matted. And I guess it will have gotten, like, tangled in the night or something. And it just, it don't, it just don't have, it hurts. Or are you getting started crazy, you know, being cooked up in your house all the time?

Never going anywhere? No, well, I mean, I fucking left this weekend, which I'm not real proud about. but honest to God, it didn't really, it didn't really, ma'am, I'm more depressed right now than I was before that happened. Boozing? Boozing? I actually did fine this week. I just stayed stuck with beer, which has been kind of new because like before I had been hitting vodka pretty hard because in my mind I was like, well, I'll drink less of it and get more drunk and then I'll lose weight. But like I just, I wasn't drinking less of it at all.

I was drinking a lot, a lot, a lot every day. so last week I drank every other day which was pretty good and then now I'm kind of committed to I'm just not going to drink for a while and I'm trying to do that whole drink at least a gallon of water everyday situation

which I have found curbs my appetite and has made me feel better and I don't want to get so fucked up but I mean I'm just like I'm finally at the point where I don't even know I'm just so fucking sick of it from well being in Georgia has been weird because like it is very much business as usual for a lot of

people right now right and I don't agree with that at all and so I'm just ready when it's all I don't know when the fuck it's going to be all over but like I'm just ready for this not to be in the conversation which I know that's the most woe is me of this pandemic, like clearly there's people who have died. There's people who've gotten sick. There's people who've lost people. But like, I can't, I don't want to talk to nobody right now about this shit anymore because, I don't know.

It's rough. You said Georgia's business as usual for a lot of people. And since you've already, it has now been mentioned, the fact that you left your house for a while, took a trip. I mean, I'd actually, I'd be very curious to know what sort of atmosphere you encounter doing that. Was it just a bunch of people also doing that and not really. Did it seem like nothing was going on or did it seem weird?

No, not at all. And so let me, I'll preface this by saying, like, I didn't, I had a problem with it from the jump. I still have a problem with it. We got asked over the, well, last, God damn it, it's been a while. We got asked last week to go to the beach with some of our friends. And it was laid out like, because I off the jump was just first like, nope, because I've been of everyone I know, not y'all, but like everyone around here, my family, all my friends around here, I've been to one taking it insanely serious. I won't leave my house for shit.

I barely go the store when I do fucking face masks out, which really hits, by the way, because people don't recognize you a lot of times when you have a face mask on. I think I'm going to keep up with that shit. Even when they tell us, oh, hey, by the way, you don't need the face mask anymore. That's staying. I'm keeping that going. But I wasn't really with it. I was like, I still just feel like it's too soon. It's definitely too soon. And then they were like, well, here's the deal. We're not going to, to go nowhere. We're literally just going to be in the beach house. All the food is being delivered. Everything's already there. You don't have to leave. It's a fucking nine bedroom place. There's only

two couples. So like, we're all going to be separated. And I was like, oh, I mean, that definitely sounds like, why the fuck not? But I still wasn't with it. And then I brought it up to Amber. And then it was just like, we're fucking going. We're fucking going. And I was like, no, you don't want to. And she was just like, dude, we got to fucking go. Think about it. There's, and we're just doing all, we're just making all the concessions that like, I don't, I mean, yeah, don't get me wrong, that's definitely better than just regularly going to the beach and going out every night and whatever. But like, it's still, I don't think we should have done it. But I made the concessions and I was finally tired of just saying no to everything. So we went and sure shit. I mean, we literally

didn't leave the place except to like, I went to get, uh, you know, beer like a couple times. We stocked up the first day pretty well, brought everything in. But my point is, when we were driving in, there was definitely huge groups of people hanging out on the side together, no mask going into like the fucking liquor stores and shit. And I'm sitting there and I'm wanting so badly to judge them, but I'm like, well, fuck, you're here too, you know. But again, I didn't get out and do none of that stuff. But like, yeah, man, it was fucking pretty well business as usual. which was like upsetting because there was part of me that thought, okay, again,

we're not going to leave the fucking beach house. We've got all this food order. And there probably won't be anybody down here anyways. So like, it'll just be like, what's the difference in being at my house versus being here? But like, no,

I did not find that to be the case. I mean, everywhere wasn't open. There was only, but the day we were leaving, I think some restaurants had like just started doing like limited seating or something, but like everybody was there.

There was large groups of kids, you know, walking past our place. the liquor store, no mask. And I mean, you know, I couldn't hear their conversations. But their body language was very, fuck this shit. Nothing's wrong and everything's fine. And so I was very conflicted whether or not to even talk about it.

Because frankly, I'm ashamed that I gave in. But I did. And that's just what, you know, like I said, we didn't go nowhere. We stayed. Everything was delivered. So I don't know. I don't fucking know. Yeah.

Well, because of all that, I feel like I don't at all have a grasp on when I'm going to know like when it's okay to do or not do any given thing that you're an example of. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

It's also fucky in my opinion right now and all over the map depending on where you're at on the map and I just don't you know I don't know how to like feel about any of it. Well also I'm not advocating

for what I'm about to say but I understand it. I ain't saying I'd do it, but I understand. All these motherfuckers, so the idea was we will lock down for three weeks or a month, and it'll flatten the curve. And it slowed the curve down, but it didn't flatten it at all because not enough people actually did what they were supposed to do. And those people are continuing to not do what they're supposed to do. And the governments and all these fucking money-hungry capitalists are starting their little propaganda machine. because they want their stocks to go back up.

It's over. Like, we're going to die. Like, a lot of people die, you know, like, but that don't mean you should just, you know, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. See, that's where I felt victim of. And like, honest to God, like, the thing I'm ashamed of is that I just,

I got beaten down and I just let it, I just let it beat me down. And I finally just got tired of saying the same fucking bullet points every day because, you know, I still live in Georgia where it's very funny because like nobody, none of my friends have believed the government forever on almost anything until Brian Kemp said, hey, it's fine, business as usual. And they're like, well, God damn, the governor said. And so I've been getting so much shit for so long talking about, oh, you're fucking liberal queer. You just want to live in fear. And all it ain't that bad. And hell, well, I mean, we're all hanging out with other people who've been quarantined.

so we're all safe, so it's fine if we have a little party. And I've like, dude, I've skipped so many things. And I've been the fucking guy. And I've been like, I don't give a fuck. What anybody says, they can call me a fucking pussy. I'm standing my ground because I know that I'm right. And I finally just, it wore me down because nobody else was doing the right thing. Right.

So, like, I was sitting there going, I'm the only one at home that keeps doing the right thing. And me alone is not going to flatten shit. So if everybody else is just going to carry on with their life, well, then fuck, I'm just being a huge queer at my house. And I'm ashamed to myself. Also, it was the beach. Yeah, again, dude, we didn't see anybody. Like, it was as far as going out in the quarantine goes, we did it the right way.

Well, I'm not, you know, three and I talked about giving you shit while you were not on the podcast. We didn't. But, like, my thing, I was thinking about it, like, sincerely. And I was like, I could come up with a million reasons. that I can justify that shit to myself. You know, I mean, around the time you did that, Andy's situation popped up. Yeah.

It wasn't my decision. It was hers, but I totally got it and understood where she was coming from, where it was, again, I don't want to get in private business, but something pretty gnarly happened to some people she could care about. And she felt the need to be there.

Sure. And that's like, what is so, I don't know, human about this whole situation. It's like, it's not just like getting a haircut. Right.

It's like it's real life. At some point, it's like your whole life's upended. But at the same time, I think that. And then on the other hand, I think, yeah, but like, me, my fucking pap all fought Nazis. Like, I can not go outside. No, I mean, I agree. That's why, like, if y'all did want to give me shit, I was in no way going to try to defend myself about it. No, you're fucking correct.

The only thing. I would say is maybe we should wait until Corey gets back because he's defenseless. much like all the people he's going to see. Yeah. Well, no, that's the thing too. That's another, that's another shitty. I had to get gas on the way back, to be fair. I mean, if you're going to drive to the woods like I did, I had to go get gas.

Yeah. Well, and the only time I really saw the outside world was when we were at the gas station, which is when I saw that fucking, man, I got corona. There's no way I don't. I saw that that fucking gas station. I went in Alabama that the fucking soap. You already have corona. The soap dispenser was broke.

They just had a bar of meaw soap, and everybody knows what meemaw soap is. Memo soap is the, it's the either, it's either blue and white or it's green and white. And it's like a zest bar, and it doesn't, it makes your hands dry, drier than they were, dirtier than they were. And then afterwards, you never throw away a bar of meemaw soap. You get a new bar of memo soap and you put the old bar of memo soap on top of it. That way it molds into that bar. So once you've gone through about six or seven bars of Memo soap,

you don't really know, like, is this a new bar or is this several old Memo soap bars in one? And then, of course, it had a sign on it that said, hey, towels are out here. Go vals. So, yeah, I'm dead. Well, yeah, well, but that would hit. Dine would hit, yeah. My thing with it is, and I'm trying to think how to say it, because I'm not. trying to put, I'm just, this is like me thinking for me.

Well, number one, it's like if everybody acted the way I did, like I thought about that when I went to the woods. Like, well, if everybody went and I'm like, well, if I get to the woods, there's a fuck kind of people there, I'm going to leave. Yeah, I'll leave for sure, because that's the opposite of going to the woods. Like, I didn't want you want. And then the, but the second thing I keep thinking is I don't, I don't want it. But that's not what I'm afraid.

Yeah. Like, I didn't say this to Andy, but I got on to her at one point because, like, her sister and I wanted to come see her. And that had nothing to do with the situation of why she was there. And I was like, don't go to that bar and see it. And she's like, you're right. And she left not going to be upset if she gets it, as long as she doesn't die, of course. She's going to be upset if her dad gets it.

Of course. Yeah, that's been my thing the whole fucking time. And I couldn't beat it into my parents. Right. And I guess it's just like, I don't think anything happened when I stopped at that gas station with gloves on and a mask. But what if I fucking did? you know, give it to somebody two towns up or whatever. Right.

Yeah. No, I know, man. And again, like, when do you know and what? I don't know. But like, yeah, I've been conflicted. I felt bad. I mean, fuck, I felt bad the whole time. And now I'm like super depressed and mad at myself because I had like a good street going.

But, you know, fuck, did what I did. Made Amber shut the fuck up. So it's worth it. Even if I die, I promise you that. You all know how that goes. what you cut out what do you say you're still cut out I just said y'all know how that goes

oh yeah indeed I have I have I have a topic that I I personally would like to talk about on here but I'm very very hesitant to because it's like it's a mine field for sure like without a doubt but I want to have

or are you just saying you're not sure if you want to talk about it at all I'm going to bring it up I'm going to get into it. We can just shut it down if y'all want to. But I want to give as many disclaimers, emphatic disclaimers as I can. This is like, I'm trying to pose like an academic question to y'all

about a sensitive subject. And I want you to tell me. Is this like the trolley shit? You're about to throw off? No, no, no. Race science, is it? Because I don't get that either. It ain't what you say.

It's not what? Race science. Race science. No, no, no, no. It's okay, so I want to get into this and I'm not doing anything to be offensive or make a joke or anything. I'm being genuine about the question I'm going to ask.

All the dudes that can't do the party in college where you're like, just to have. Black people have weirdly shaped heads and it's because they're fucking inferior. I want to pose an actual question to y'all about the word retard. So, all right. So I'm not at all the first person to point this out.

this has been pointed out plenty of times before. I'm sure you guys are already aware of this. Probably every listener is aware of it too. But the words, just off the top of my head, the words, idiot, moron, imbecile, and I'm sure many more, were at one time and originally psychological or the era's version of psychological,

terms and classifications for people with actual mental handicaps or disabilities. They weren't pejoratives or insuffer. or whatever, an idiot had an actual scientific definition. And what happened, of course, with every one of those words is what is also happens with the word retard and retarded is that people just started using those words to refer to their idiot friends or whatever, just to other people or to themselves. I'm such an idiot.

I'm more or whatever. To the point that with each one of those words, it basically fell out of faith. amongst the actual, you know, medical and psychiatric community because it had attained a completely different meaning than what it originally meant. And so they were like, well, we need a new word. And they've went through that process over and over and over again. And that's exactly what's happening right now, except now is the first time that society has been evolved enough to take issue with people reappropriating that word in that way. right but here's what i'm wondering what y'all think about it wouldn't it isn't it ultimately like less offensive maybe or whatever to have the word just just completely mean a different thing

like to not because it doesn't have to be related to people who have mental problems or mental handicaps if it has taken on this, you know, this own other definition. I mean, honestly. A new designation for all that. I think, I mean, my personal opinion is considering I know that you're correct because I've read up about it and like considering that idiot and moron used to mean that and now there's like, dude, a preacher will say I'm an idiot or what, you know, like. Right.

So to me, it's kind of like, yeah, that would be the best thing. gold standard for PC culture, preachers. Yeah, but it's not just preachers. Everybody. That's part of the point to me is. I'm just, I'm just saying, I wouldn't, I don't think I would hear a preacher say ever like, oh, I was being retarded maybe, but I think they say it. But like, I kind of feel like if it happened to idiot and moron, what's the difference?

This is just a completely different other word. There is a difference, but where I think you're missing the boat is two places. One is retarded as a verb. Yeah. retarded means something has become retarded. We made retardant noun to become an insult. The argument in terms of that being a pejorative is it was a medical term. And then that medical term got perverted into an insult.

That's not good or the reason that we now decide to change it, whether you agree with it or not, where I think you're just like not factually incorrect, but like missing something is, Let's like the thing you're called, if it becomes universally known to mean stupid, now you're being called stupid every time someone uses the quote unquote medical term. So they push people to stop doing it. Don't say that instead of stupid. And then at some point it's like, well, we've got to change the medical term because, you know, even some people who are mentally challenged figure out on their own that that's an insult.

Sure. Now, some don't. Somebody tells them. They never knew. and somebody fucking told them what that word meant and you're kind of an asshole if you did that. Yeah, but that's all true. And I know that first of all,

another thing is we should never like conduct ourselves based on the standard of, you know, 100 years ago or 50 or 20 or 50 or 20 years ago. And I know that too. I guess all I'm trying to say is everything you just said also applied when those other words went through this same process. But at some point,

And I don't know when, but I know it was not in our lifetimes, well before any of us were ever born. Every one of those words had gotten to this other place where, like, if you call a dumb person an idiot or call yourself an idiot, there, no one is like, no group of people takes offense at the word idiot or moron or imbecile. Doesn't it follow that that same thing would happen? It might. It might. Our word at a certain point. You know what I'm trying?

But only if we push people to stop saying it medically. And once you start pushing people to stop saying it medically, I mean, everyone's going to say also stop saying it in front of, you know, like it's a pejorative. My point being there might be a time, a couple generations for now, where no one hears that word and thinks about mentally handicapped and challenge people. And if that becomes the case, I think that our grandkids we run around calling her by retards.

Yeah. yeah right but i but i don't think that will ever happen though with this one because of the way we have evolved like i was saying it's not being treated the same way as those other words well not the three of us really well again i'm just trying to have a conversation about this i'm not advocating for it what i'm not well i guess the difference is this is the first time there's been conversations had about it back then like when they stopped with idiot like a couple people talked about it probably on a debate stage with each other somebody wrote one paper but now like you know there weren't podcasts is what i'm saying well it was just the medical community the medical

community decided to stop doing that and everybody else went on and then a generation or two past and everyone forgot that it ever meant that right right but you're right it'll be tougher because we have a we have a broader collective conscious now because of the internet and social media right yeah yeah and that and you know that's not that's not a bad thing i mean i feel like that definitely is the difference it's just the way that society feels about this whole phenomenon that we're talking about with words like this and that's what makes it different in the first place and it's not that's not bad but it is like novel as far as this like particular process goes like we've sort of proven that any word that smart people come up with for people with you know

issues with their brain will be co-opted by other people to apply to their buddies, you know, or their neighbor or whatever, you know. I mean, it's already kind of started to happen a little bit with autism. Autistic, yeah. I hear a lot of people now where the put down is not like, because when I was a kid and when you were kidding, I mean, still to this day, like, it's not going away anytime soon, but like, God damn, he's being retarded was a huge thing. But now I very often hear the phrase like, they're a little on the spectrum, aren't

And it means the same goddamn thing. Like, that's exactly what that person's trying to say. I think the difference is the reason you can still get away with it and it won't last. I used to have a joke when I said something about how, yeah, you can still say that one. It won't last, but the reason you can get away with it, I think a lot of people would argue that when they say it, they genuinely believe it. Uh-huh, right. And also, sometimes that can be a compliment. It's kind of more ignorant.

But it's like, so that guy's weird. So you just now believe that they had medical conditions? Right, right, right. Like if you saw somebody paint the New York skyline by memory, you would never go, what a retard. You know, but like you'd go, oh, they're a little on the spectrum. But in that moment, it was kind of a compliment because you were saying like a normal person couldn't do that,

but that's a great and insane skill. So I don't know. But what I mean is sometimes people are awkward and then everyone goes, I think he's on the spectrum. Right. No, he doesn't have any social skills. on the internet. Yeah, or he was homeschool or whatever.

Corey said a word in the middle of that that made me think of another. This same thing also happens with words that mean like crazy or fucked up in the head. Do you know what I mean? Like schizo, psycho. Manatech. Like all of those, all of those, the same exact thing has happened. But I feel like they don't, maybe people give less of a fuck about crazy people or whatever in the first place. They do.

You know what I mean? They don't have a special Olympics for crazy people and they're not a cool. But also, you know, if you got mental, if you got mental issues like related to depression or schizophrenia or whatever, oftentimes you can defend yourself. And I think it has a lot to do with it. I think a lot of people genuinely have a soft spot as they should, you know, for kids. Right. as the only person on this podcast, not who said that word,

and we've all three said it, but the only one who's ever gotten any shit for it, even though we've all three said it, I can say that at least one person has reached out to me and had a conversation with me about that word and, you know, like why it sets them off, and it's about their children.

And people insulting their children with that word because their children have, actually, if I'm not mistaken, the children are on the spectrum. Right. But at school, they've been called the R word or whatever. And this gentleman explained to me why he gets so angry. He thinks about what his kids go through there with it enough,

obviously, to know that that's an insult to know that it means that they're different, know that they're being picked on, et cetera, et cetera. And I guess my point, going back to earlier, Trey, is I can imagine in two generations from now that word will just mean dumb. But at least for now, everyone, including very young artistic kids, know that it means not just dumb, but like something specifically. Right, right. Right. Right. Well, I mean, I used to have a bit where I said that word too.

And even when the tour first started, I was still doing it and saying it. And I also got shit for it from people in person after the show. And, you know, I stopped saying it. I'm not trying to get to a point where it's like, I wish you'd be able to say it. I should be able say it. I won't say it. I'm going to keep saying it. That's not what I mean. I just think that it's interesting because there's like a pattern with this particular, this exact thing. you know what I mean has like followed the same the same pattern forever and we're just in a current stage of it now where it's you know different but everything is different for us all the time i want to all right me and DJ just talked about i just told DJ the story you guys remember stand up live in the picture line uh uh what what Which stand up live, Huntsville or?

Huntsville. I don't know that I, I mean, I remember falling out in the... Oh, yes. You're a buddy, right? Well, I mean, no. Right. Like, he's my friend's friend. Yes.

Party with him and met him at Bonaroo. I know exactly what you're talking about. The older dude, the older dude. I know this. Which is very relevant to the story. And the story very quickly is, and you're right to laugh and that's what DJ and I were talking about.

I'm laughing at how stupid it was for the record. Exactly. Exactly. But here's the thing. Comedians, Jerry, I just watched Jerry Seinfeld interview or do comedians in cars with Eddie Murphy.

Yeah. And you should say about how comedians laugh at everything. Yeah, right. humor and everything. And then we choose. The worst, the better. But we skipped everything else to get there. Yeah.

And I was talking about. about that picture of that old boy in the camouflage with the clanhood on. Yeah, yeah. That apple. He wore a clan hood for COVID mass. That's one of the funniest good, that things ever heard in my life. It's so funny to look at,

and I'll explain why, but I also need to explain, or at least mention that I totally understand that if you're a black parent in that store with your kid. Nightmare. It's a nightmare. Even if you're not afraid of that guy because he's so fat and pathetic,

it's like, how's your kid going to feel in this tank? if they don't know what the clan is. Like, I recognize that. You cannot divorce the clanhood from context. It always has to be contextualized in that context is always going to be horrendous. But the image of this fat fuck, I'm genetically superior wearing crops, looking at an apple like it's a goddamn math problem. And a store.

What a fucking dumb piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's also the, um, the juxtaposition of, well, I mean, just you wouldn't think that guy would think he needed to do that. Right. And that he did think, oh, shit, I need to be safe. And then he's like, well, I mean, that's all I go.

Yes. Just wear the whole thing. It wouldn't have been near as funny if he'd have worn the whole thing. That's true. Part of it was just how fat and camouflage you well. It's amazing. You're right, because then your comic brain starts going like, well, is he in the clan or was like, that is papaws?

And that's the only, that's, he left it to him. And so he just had that. How dumb is this? How big of a fucking retard is this guy? I know. So this dude, and I'm not going to say his name. I don't think he was in the podcast. Maybe he does.

He gets in line and he gets up there to us and he said he'd never been to a comedy show. And he didn't really know what we were about until he got there. And I don't think he's particularly progressive, but I don't think he's particularly hateful either. I met the dude at Bonnaroo. We smoked weed together once.

He was nice. Anyway, he's old, which is relevant to what I'm about to say. He tells us a joke. The joke has the N-word in it. And it's like a one-liner. He says it like, say cheese. And that's not what he says. And then he laughs.

And then he realized what he's done. And he looks at us. And we kind of go blah. And then kind of look at him like, what the fuck? And then he, I don't know you guys remember. He ran. Yeah. He's like, oh, my God.

I'm so sorry. He's like freaked out. He almost looked like he was about to cry. And then he ran off the stage and out. If I'm not mistaken, what he said in lieu of cheese was say, in word, pussy, right? He did. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, that's what he said. And I'm telling DJ, and I start laughing, he starts laughing. He's like, why are we laughing? I was like, it was funny that night, too. It's the shock. It's the shock. Me and DJ, it's that whole, like, percentage thing with comedians. And this kind of goes back to, like, the R.

word and the joke. Someone told you not to do that, and you stopped. And should you have known before? Maybe. Like, that's not me judging you. I'm saying, like, I don't know. Maybe you should have a better trait. Maybe you shouldn't have.

But someone said, hey, this is why that bothers me. And you're like, all right, I'll stop. But there's something a little different about our brains. The reason that's so funny is because he bombed. That's why we were laughing, guys. It's because he bombed. We bombed before. And it's so funny.

He said that. He just said it like on the car. He thought he was going to crush. And then we looked at him like he was horrible, and then we saw a man realize that his joke didn't land and hate himself. And there's nothing funnier. And he ran. And also who he was had a lot to do with it, in my opinion, because if that same situation, every single thing had to happen. But he, let's say, had a $70 haircut and was wearing a suit and was like, looked like he was a frat bro's dad or something.

I don't think I'd have laughed one time. I've been like, what the fuck? Also, we would have been expecting that guy to bomb. Exactly, right. There was something not obviously innocent about it, but very pure about watching him get shame publicly. Oh, yeah. And he's true.

And we didn't even say shame on you. He could just tell by our faces that he should feel shame. And what DJ said was, but like you've got to have space for that. You got to have space for someone to go, oh, I'm wrong. Let me correct it or whatever. Well, I'll say a couple of things. First of all, is I'm going to just admit right now that I laughed when he said that before I processed any kind of, oh, he just bombed and is ashamed.

Because you're right, he literally, he literally took flight and left the entire building. And yes, that made it funnier. Well, Trey, I don't mean the initial, or whatever. That we all did. You can't help. I'm talking about, and maybe you do. didn't laugh at this point. When we got back to the green room and recounted what happened,

I was screaming. I was fucking dying laughing. I was laughing at him and the absurdity of the other. Yes, I agree with all that. Okay, yeah. Well, I think we're on the same pageant. I was going to say, like, Corey said it's the shock. And it's like, isn't there a, isn't there like a theory that's a very tenuous theory?

Yeah, the origin of, yeah, the origin of laughter came from like. Fear, not dying. Fear and the shock at, like, not dying. You're like, you think you're about to get. eaten by a Siberian tiger and then all of a sudden you don't and just involuntarily you just start laughing. No, by note, there's no way of us known. Well, I think

we've talked about this or maybe we haven't. Some guys wrote a book about it from University of College. I mean, I've run a book about it. They're talking about how your laughter, that part of your brain is very close to fight or flight. Yeah, right. The best analogy I remember from their book that

I read was tickling. You can't tickle yourself because you can't put yourself in any danger. Yeah. And it would be very unlikely if a stranger in a dark alley could come up to you and tickle you and make you laugh. Because there, the danger would be so great that you wouldn't giggle at all. But if your son or your husband or wife tries to tickle you, they're touching a vulnerable spot so it's dangerous. But you're not actually afraid and then tickling gets turned on. And that's very analogous to like a dirty joke.

Comedians don't laugh at dirty jokes because our brain is warped. That doesn't turn on our danger zones. My mom doesn't laugh at dirty jokes because it goes too far into her danger zones because she's a sweet little precious angel lady. So she doesn't laugh. And then people in the middle laugh because it turns on their danger zones but not, you know, so much that they're disgusted that you said penis or whatever. I think that's true.

And I think it's also true like we have to acknowledge and not to be woke just in terms of this conversation. A black person probably wouldn't have laughed. Of course. Yeah. Because it would have been a violation. to them. Yeah, to them. They'd have just seen the clanhood and every, all this shit would have came up that doesn't come up for us.

I mean, even the guy in line. Right. It's like the idea of Andy got home. I'm sorry if everybody can hear that. No problem. I was wondering. I was like. Yeah, I got my background. She says hello. It's like the idea. It's like being tickled by the stranger at that point. You're not being tickled. You're being

tickled. You're being attacked. Right. Yeah. Yeah. As far as the clan guy goes and all that, there's also like, I mean, you know, Anytime there's clips of these fascists and Nazis doing Nazi shit, if they're like, if it's just, then it really, it's not like I laugh at every one of them, but a lot of them I laugh at because typically they look so fat and dumb and ridiculous. Like there was that one I sent y'all, the guy, he's got an Indianapolis Colts hat on.

Yeah, yeah. And he's wearing a shirt, he's wearing a shirt in huge letters. The only words on the shirt say white power. and this dude like he looks like a literal like mongoloy he looks like a caveman like his name is ugh and it's just like this

behold the master race part of it all you know he was he was also trying to go around he was also trying to go around and like pitch his like door to door like shingle salesman business too like and that's the outfit he decided yeah that's what he decided

to fucking wear but yeah it's like I don't know yeah that's funny laugh at people like that but they're awful they really hate people. They're like, it's not,

it's irredeable the way that they are, but I mean, it's also funny just to fucking look at them. Well, that takes the piss out of them. Like, you should laugh at those motherfuckers. Like,

and obviously we're not scared of that guy because he's not a threat to us because we're fucking white and look like Colts fans. But like, you should laugh at those motherfuckers face any chance you can. You can't,

you generally can't help laughing. That's what is so magical about being a stand-up comic. Laughter is not completely uncontrollable, but it's not a controlled response. You can't make yourself laugh at something, and it's hard to make yourself not laugh at something, especially if it's unexpected. All you can do is recognize why you think something's right. I'm saying, like, you can acknowledge, like, yeah, I know that that wouldn't be funny to a black person, and I know why. It's because it's dangerous to them.

and I know it's not dangerous to me, but I'm not laughing at it being dangerous to them. I'm laughing at this fat fuck in a goddamn clanhood. Yeah. You're not this apple like he can't breathe. There's so much information. Like you talk about a picture's worth a thousand words. Just like all that,

because that's why you like your brain is kind of process. He literally was going, what is that? Yeah. Your brain is trying to process all this. And again, immediately where my comedian brain went to is like, wow,

I'm so surprised that you could have, both a clan mask and the thought that you needed to cover yourself up from germs, which is immediately fucking hilarious. Right. I came here if I'm almost certain I told you all this, but I don't think it was on the podcast, but maybe it was, but it was a long time ago.

This is a different example of that, but I'll see what y'all think about it. Like, I was at this show, this live show in L.A. once, it wasn't a comedy show. It was like a live talk show kind of, like with host and guests or whatever. And the guess they had was, according to what they said and according to her, one of Los Angeles's preeminent divorce attorneys, right? Yeah, yeah, I remember you talking about this. And she was up there.

The discussion was all about like, what have you learned in all your years as a divorce attorney as far as like, how can you advise people in a marriage, you know, things to avoid, things you've seen tear marriages apart, whatever. It was supposed to be like giving advice to strengthen a marriage. that's the context of why this lady is there. But she's this huge high-powered divorce attorney. And like anybody who's ever appeared on a show of any kind, she had to plug something. She was there to plug something. When they get to that part,

and again, it's not a comedy show. It's not like, none of this is funny. It's just like relationship advice type shit. And when I get to the part where she's going to plug it, she starts talking about how she's been in the game a long time. And she's seen a lot of people who didn't have the resources to, like, defend themselves properly in the context of a divorce, right? Get really fucked over because the other person had all the resources and all the power.

And she doesn't think that's fair. And she wanted to do something about it. It's like a crusade of her, she's saying. And then so what she came up with was an app, a divorce app, where anyone, regardless of, you know, places in society or occupation or income level, can have access to divorce services through their cell phone on an app, right? And she's saying that she's obviously really proud of it.

Everyone in the audience is just sitting there listening. I'm in the back row horse laughing. Like, cackling, laughing. I couldn't help it. Because it was like, when it sort of dawned on me, I was like, no. No, there's no way she's really about to say, I think she's about to say.

And she like pulled her phone out and had the app or whatever. And I just lost it. And like she like, dude, it was not that big of a room. It was not, it was not loud. Everyone could hear me.

Like in the back, including her. And she like got uncomfortable and like stormed off the stage basically. Because it like threw her off so much. But I just couldn't. Because it's fucking hilarious. That reminds me of that in context. That kind of reminds me that Ron White bit when he's talking

about the Texas and the death penalty when he's like most most states are trying to get rid of the death penalty mine's putting in a fast pass which is pretty much that woman's answer was like help these people I'm not trying to help them in their marriage fucking but I feel like I should be able to swipe right

and boom they just immediately are set up with a lawyer and a judge that's so funny the fact is I mean that's called benign violation theory if anybody wants to look it up the tick one thing and the dirty joke and all that. The fact of the matter is that it's how a solid number

of jokes work. Not all of them, not wordplay, but a lot of jokes work that way. The fact is, if you like us, if you like almost any comedian with very few exceptions, you are laughing at pain or awkwardness or sadness at some point. And you're doing it because you relate and you're doing it because of that benign violation theory where it's turned on those parts of your brain that get a little nervous, that get a little tickly, but it hasn't gone over the line. All you can do is a comedian is recognize that different people have different lines, try to respect them as best you can, and then pick where you're going to fall on that line. Right. Right. That's it. You know what? You can say, you know what? I hear what you're saying

about the R word and I'll cut it out, even though I know that there are people who aren't you who laugh at it. Right. And I might be one of them. Right. Otherwise, it hurts me. So I'll stop doing it. But then there's any other cases where people are like, you shouldn't joke about drugs because my brother had a drug problem. I'm like, well, my fucking brother had a drug problem. And I don't joke about what I want. Yeah, there's, there's a dude.

When I say plenty, I mean, so many things that I will laugh at, not that I'll seek them out to laugh at them, but like if it happens, I'll definitely laugh at it. that I would never try to emulate in my art. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would never try to do that, but I know for it. But yeah, it does

fucking tickle me. But it's, like, That's where my morals go. It's like my morals can't stop me from laughing at the thing. They can only make me not try to make other people laugh using it. If that makes any sense. You're purposely trying to like force yourself. Nobody's morals can do that. Now you genuinely might not find stuff funny,

but you just have a different line than everybody else. You shouldn't keep your line on to other people. This is one of the few things that I feel very passionately down the middle on. And I genuinely mean that. Like, I totally understand when all these fucking douchey comics, I actually understand when they're like, you can't tell people what to laugh at, you can't tell me what to say.

I'm like, yeah, you can't. I don't know what you find funny. Say whatever you want. But then I also get it when people are like, he was joking about rape, and I've been raped. And it's like, yeah, actually, that's. I can see where that wouldn't hit.

Yeah. And say, I find it funny, but I'll do it privately or whatever. Right. Yeah, I guess I always am just like, you know, which I'm, there may be people that have done this during this episode of the podcast. I just say turn it off and, you know, move on.

But then again, I'm also a straight white male who has the power to just, if there happens to be something that I don't like, which is so rare. Like, in order for, and we know this, you can see. Well, my thing with that. I was just going to say, you can see it on the faces of straight white males. Like, they go out of their way to find something to offend them because you have to. If you're a straight white male, you've got to make it your fucking job that day to figure out something to piss you the fuck off.

So it's really easy for me to say if you don't like something, change the channel and fucking move on because, like, most things are just for me. I live in a straight white male right-handed American world. So I'm saying is I'm taking back what I just said. The only... The only times... The only times that I'm also annoyed by all the edgy young comics who are on the crusade about it and it's not just young comics at all,

or on the crusade about how we can't talk about nothing anymore or whatever, or anything like that. But I do feel like what genuinely does happen a whole lot of the time, though, is people being like willfully wrong about the point or context or whatever of a particular joke or line. Do you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Where it's like... Your Earnhardt joke that one time, for instance. Well, that was a ridiculous example. And now I know. I know. It was literally just the opposite of what I mean. But I mean, I'm saying, you know, like if I, I mean, this happens to me all the time with independent, like, comments. Amber had to fight, Amber about had to fight them people in Asheville on my account.

It was that gay dude who thought that I was making fun of gay people when the whole bit was me shitting on, you know, gays and military. He's like, he's just up there making fun of gay people. And she's like, no, he's not. He's doing a bit about how it's ridiculous that gay people use to not be in the military. Like that, that, exactly, that type of thing where it's like. Did you guys see the Mitch Patel? Huh? Namis Patel.

He went on Rogan to talk about it. That happened, that exact thing happened him in Columbia. Oh, yes. Yeah, I do know.

That was a long time ago, right? Like two or three years ago, like three, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. So the real quick version is he tells the joke and the joke is,

and I'm dumbing it down, but the joke is essentially he knows no one chooses to be gay because there's black gay dudes. Because if you're black, you're not going to choose to also be gay. That's the dumbing down on the oppression. and people got offended and he was like, you know, that's a progressive joke.

If you think about it, they just heard these buzzwords. But this is what I find interesting about it. And I really like what he said. He said, you know, all the fallout happened and there were people blogging and this and that. And some kids from Columbia left the show that he was at. He had another show that night. They followed him. They knew he had another show.

They got online and found out. And they like apologized. And he got all these DMs and one girl like jumped all over him. But everybody else was like, man, I'm sorry that happened. this bullshit I wanted you to keep going. And he was like, he's like, I'm not going to let myself buy into this narrative that all college kids need safe spaces and you can't do a college. He's like, because that's not like, a lot of kids were upset.

I got kicked out. Yeah, yeah. You keep in mind. Yeah, no, I mean, I agree with that too. I don't agree. I just don't. Well, I mean, first off, I just, I just try my best to like, whenever someone opens their mouth with the whole, like, you can't say anything anymore.

I just try to keep my mouth shut before I get. getting a huge fucking argument because like I've actually read about comedy my whole life and I'm actually a student of the game when it comes to comedy and television and censorship and stuff like that and like you know I don't know Lenny Bruce used to get fucking arrested for saying stuff. Lucy and like you you can say so much more now is what I'm saying like it's ridiculous you don't have to go back that far before you had to have a goddamn cabaret license to even perform and even and when you did have that cabaret license, cops could come watch your show. And if they deemed something you said was offensive and it wasn't like it had to be this,

had to be this, had to be this. It was a very gray area. Somebody could just not like you and say he was offensive. He was obscene. They could take you to jail and take your fucking cabaret license from you. And then you couldn't even work until like a year later when they decided to give it back to you, right? George Carlin came out with these seven dirty words you can't say on television and he got banned from a lot of college campuses because of that.

and like the parental guidance sticker had to go up on albums because of that shit. So don't give me that fucking Louis Lui, Louie had a FBI investigation on it because you couldn't understand some of the words. And they thought that maybe that shouldn't be something that kids should hear. So I don't want to hear this whole, you can't fucking say anything nowadays. You can say any fucking thing that you want. It's just that sometimes someone's not going to like it and they're going to tweet at you

and you are so much of a cowardly pussy that you can't handle that. So really you're being the piece of shit, offended little fucking pussy. That's how I feel about it. You're the one being the piece of shit. No, anybody else. It's funny.

Do you think the lines move? Yeah, well, I don't know exactly what you mean, but I might be about to touch on what I was going to say to that anyway, is that, like, you're 100% right, Corey, about how, like, you used to get arrested for being obscene and things like that. But during, like, those same eras, fucking...

You could beat women. That, yeah, and you can, you know, make jokes about being women. could do like full on yellow face, yellow face racist caricatures and, and super racist black caricatures and all that stuff too. It was really only like, it's kind of always been mostly just like what white people find offensive.

Yeah, it's weird. It's like what you're not allowed to say, which that also included literally anything of black person wanted to say. Oh, yeah. It was offensive. So they had to have their own secret party records on like an underground circuit and shit, you know, because of all that.

But like, it has always kind of, like, gone both ways in that way. You know what I mean? Like, you can say a lot more shit now. But there's also, like, all of that stuff. Twitter. Racism and all that sort of, like, white man comedy shit. Yeah. Is what, that in particular is what has gotten rained in in recent years.

Yeah. That, you know, that's fine. there's no. Yeah, well, I guess my thing is like, there's still an audience for that, though. Like if you're the comic who's like, I can't say anything anymore. I'm like, hey, man, it's weird that you say that because I have a whole bunch of people in my neighborhood here in Shigamaga, Georgia, who've been screaming pretty much exactly what you're saying except for they're not comic. So I bet you if you could find a way to promote your shit to them, you'd have a whole bunch of new fans, bro. Like, they feel the same way.

Say your shit to say your shit to find your fucking audience, I think. But like, yeah, what you said. If you go find your audience, I think that's definitely true. But yeah, I mean, again, like, I do think that you're correct. Like, the line shifted a little bit, and it's really just a Twitter thing. It's the people, there were still people plenty offended before Twitter. Obviously, it's just now they can voice their opinion. But, like, I don't know.

It's just so hard for me to hear the back in these days you could do this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, when like, I just know for a fact, for a lot of reasons that just wasn't true. This probably isn't true. I'm trying to think it through. my question about the line, what I want to know is do you think it's the first time with young people that's moved that direction? So what I mean is like, it was edgy in the 80s to do a certain kind of comedy.

And then that wasn't edgy anymore. You know, like I remember Bill Nix had that joke about PR people. You know, you're here working PR and raise your hand. Fucking kill yourself. And at the time, telling somebody to kill themselves in public, that was genuinely edgy. Absolutely. You know, people were like, holy shit,

this is it hates PR people. Now that would be the lamest fucking joke. You know what I mean? Yeah, it'd be horrible. To be edgy, to be pushed, getting pushed, getting pushed. Is this the first time? It's like the young people have been pushing the lineback and not, you know. Right, not like the grandparents.

Like, we don't want to hear that bullshit garbage. That's terrible. I don't know. That's interesting. You might be right. I mean, I would imagine if young people were feeling them to stop doing black days. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't imagine many older white people were like, Don't do that. It's not fun. I ain't cool it with the burnt corp there, pal. It's real offensive. Yeah, I don't know. But that is something to think about because, like, back then, it very much seemed like it was the old waspy crowd who was like,

hey, we don't want to hear that garbage. And the young kids are like, do whatever. And now the old people are like, well, you know what we miss. Yeah, but again, well, they're still out there doing their thing too. You know what I mean? For sure. They still don't want people. They still don't want people.

want people to joke about the Lord or Orions or whatever. Like, they don't want that to happen. They've conceded that they'll never get Cusswords back, you know. Yeah, right. Now they're having to do the other stuff. Because they used to, they've always been that way, but they used to get that. They used to win that battle. And they don't really get me more.

Right. I mean, right. When's the last time that happened? It's something like that. You know what I mean? Something like what NWA went through. or what, like, you know, fucking, just stuff getting canceled for being offensive

according to those people. I don't know. I think those people trans, they shifted to, I mean, I think literally, like, that group out of Colorado family first or some shit, they used to do stuff like that and abortion, and now they do trans stuff and abortion. I think they, it's a culture war.

It's like what the great culture wars. I think they shifted from art, into like trans and gay issues. I don't know if that means anything. I don't know if them giving up on art means anything. Art gave up on them a long goddamn time ago. Yeah, yeah, true that.

I think this conversation is probably being going on in some level. You brought up that blackface point, right? I think it's been going on on some level forever. Well, I think Twitter and the comedy boom we're going through have made it feel like a real moment. and, and I'll say this, and our heroes commenting publicly on it all the time. If I have to hear, I love Jerry Seinfeld.

If I have to hear him talk about how he won't play college, no one gives us to suck you. He actually, no one on a college campus gives a shit about you, old man. He also never said that. Well, there you go. Yeah, he's like, he came out very recent. It was like, by the way, that was a complete, like, they took me completely out of context.

He's like, I played colleges literally all the time. Like, I never said that. You did say that. Sure. There was a quote that he said that it was basically just about how like, yeah, some young people, blah, blah, blah, I don't mind. He was talking with Jay Leno about how like I personally like playing to people my age or something like that. But I don't think he actually ever said the phrase, I refuse to play colleges anymore, which is where the clickback came from. It was like, Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld refused to play colleges.

In my mind, I was like, what fucking college what colleges are they playing anyways? Like, that's a weird thing. But like, he came out. I was like, I never fucking said that. Like, I don't, he's like, I play colleges all the time. It's fine. What I was peeing and I was on mute when you said, I don't know what it means that they keep shifting to different, like, you know, they were on gay people and now they're on trans.

The good thing is that to me it means that they keep losing. Yeah, that they have to keep doing the next thing. And like, that's, if you just look through society, I mean, like, they never win. They just kind of stir shit up for a minute and then go on to the next thing. And like, they'll never admit defeat. but like that's just what that is. It's not, because that's what everybody thinks now. Like, oh, transgender is a new thing.

It's like, no, we're just discovered, like, it's just discovered mainstream because now they're upset about it because that's where they are in the getting mad at stuff line. And after they're fucking mad at that, we'll learn whatever the next. Once they lose that battle, they'll go on and we'll figure out what the new thing is that these motherfuckers hate. It's not that it's a brand new thing.

It's just that like they're whittling. down their fucking bullshit and hopefully they all fucking kill themselves. Yeah, but I mean, right, but again, we keep, we're talking about two different sides of, I guess, maybe the same coin kind of, but we're talking about like two different things at the same time, which is like, that has been going on for a long time.

They've been raging against all of that type of shit, you know, black people and gay people and trans people or whatever and all that type of thing. But then there's also the like, you know, the woke side of it, you know, that comics bitch about where it's like you're not allowed to say certain words, no matter what the context is, or you're not allowed to joke about a certain thing if you're a certain type of person

or just whatever, like that type of shit, the whole PCC culture thing. You know what I mean? It's like different. And that's what Drew was saying maybe about like the first time that that line has been like motivated from that side of it all, maybe. but I don't know. I don't know that's true that. And I think they are maybe different sometimes

of the same coin because I think it's, we're all, we're just talking about essentially a culture war. Do you guys watch Chappelle's Mark Twain Prize speech? Uh-huh. Yeah. He said in there, and I agree with him, but I want to make a, I want to argue with Dave Chappelle, not really, but he said,

uh, there are people who, they tell these jokes, And they're just trying to get a laugh. And he's heard him. He even said, I've heard white comics say the N-word. And they're not racist. They're just trying to get a laugh.

Then he goes, but I've also heard comics. I know they're trying to make a point that's really fucked up that I disagree with with my whole heart. That is a racist point. And they are using the trick of a joke to make it. But I will die for their right to do that. And I followed what he said. I agreed with him. I did.

My only thing with that, and this is what I want to say to all the, like, free speech warriors in comedy every time I hear him complainer, bitch, it's like, yeah, I agree with that too. Like, I think you're allowed to make, you can even make a racist point and use the jokes to do it. And Chappelle's right. He will die for somebody's right to do that. But if you're acknowledging that people do that,

if you're acknowledging that at least some of the time, there is a deeper meaning behind these jokes. at least some of the time someone is trying to say something very fucked up and use jokes to make that fucked up point why are you mad at people for getting mad at that

and you're going well they're trying to shut down comedy well yeah fuck them you can no longer say hey man they're just jokes or hey we're just trying to get a laugh you've just admitted that that's not true yeah he's saying I'll admit that's not true and I still don't care I'll still die for their right to say it

And I'm like, man, I respect the... For the record, I would too. I agree. Yeah, I respect the fuck out of that. But, like, I'm not going to, like, try to act like they're these huge weak-minded idiots, all of them, for trying to shut you down. Some of them are. I mean, some of those people are super weak-minded.

They hear a word. I mean, the people at Columbia. That was a progressive joke, my man said. He knows gay is not a choice. That's a progressive statement. And then he makes his point by talking about two different people being oppressed. Of course. Who had a reaction to that.

They just heard. buzzwords. So that's a weak mind. That's it. Yeah. It doesn't mean that, you know, everybody is. No, I agree. Yeah. Nothing hits. No, nothing does hit.

What does hit is I know I can smell it. My dinner's ready. Well, congratulations. Get that extra pound, baby. Cross that threshold. One more. One more pound. Yeah. Hopefully I'll come to y'all next week at least two or three pounds down. I will not.

okay and I will be pleased as long as you tell us you broke the record right I agree there's no way that I won't like I'm not going to run or anything and I am going to eat a sandwich right okay yeah if the net if the net difference is negative two or something next week that's great as long as yeah you went up at least one together next time you have to boot jump on the scales first that's a good call that's a good call all right all right boys we're going to death of each other yeah yeah well for show we'll see y'all next time skee hey there well-read lister's got a special treat for you all this week a very funny man

an a okay feller as well mr mo mandale is joining us to talk to us about a project of his he's got coming up and based on the little bit he's told me about it i'm not only interested in but i believe maybe a little jealous of this project in fact so mo why don't you tell us about it, buddy? That's what I aim to do. Make other comedians jealous. That's how you know you're on the right check. Yeah, yeah.

Always. That's the main compliment you can get. So, yeah, the show is called Small Town Throwdown, and it's on Discovery. And basically, it's inspired by all those clickbait bullshit articles you see all around, like the dumbest town in America, the ugliest town, the most boring town. You know, there's these things all across. My town won all three of those ones. one week. Oh, did it? Yeah. Rain and Champs, all three.

It's funny. My town is so small and out of the way and shitty that we can't even make those lists, actually. We don't even, like, we're not even on the radar of like, worst towns in America, you know, they don't even know about. Everybody, that's what you with, everybody in town aspires to make. Yeah, we just want to be on one of those lists. Yeah. I think our lake made a list in house boat monthly last year. So that was a big day. Best place to drown, I think is what it was. Yeah.

Asteemed periodical houseboat monthly. But anyway, yeah, yeah, we've all seen those lists. They're a, you know, good time waster. So good time waster. And then also just kind of like utter bullshit because probably the guy writing the article has never even been there, you know. So each episode of the show, we travel to one of those towns that's just been like ripped apart and give the town to,

chance to speak for itself, tell its own story, and, like, reveal how great it might actually be. Yeah. You know, there was this crazy thing that happened in a big national newspaper, which I'm not going to mention the name just because who knows what the future holds. But they have this reporter who declared that Red Lake Falls, Minnesota, about three years ago, was like the worst town to live in an America, you know? And the town then found out he had never even been there and were so pissed. They petitioned the newspaper to send him there.

and when he got there, they made it their mission to show him everything great about this town and he ended up right in a retraction and then moving there. And still lives in this pocket day. I had a very different thought process as to what was about to happen because I know that if my hometown made it on one of those lists,

they would petition have the guy come here and then they would just beat the shit out of him and prove him correct. You know, I bet there was like a meeting before he came there. There was like one way they should. approach it in one way the other way. They were like, let's vote. Right.

You want to show him the best parts. Raise your hand. You want to tie him to the back of your truck. Yeah, that would be a very, you know, small town revenge, we have to call it. Right. Well, so, yeah, I mean, people don't, yeah, anybody that's from a small town, I feel like is sensitive to this whole thing that you're talking about, which is like, I mean, me and Corey are both, we've been shitting on our towns already the whole time.

But it's one of those things where it's like, you know, we feel like we're allowed to do it. But whenever somebody else does it or implies it that it has never been there, it doesn't know anything about it, then you sort of get your backup and it does kind of piss you off. So I can certainly relate to the idea here. So you actually went out. First of all, this is about to come out,

right? You've already done this. Like you've already made the first season and went to a bunch of different places. Well, we've got like a special coming out tomorrow. Well, today, I guess, when this air is on Wednesday. Oh, the Discovery Channel. Yeah, so it's going to come out tonight, the 20th of May at 10 o'clock,

and then hopefully once COVID's over, then we can go out and, you know, shoot the rest of it because, you know, obviously right now it's just fucking insanity. But we went to two towns. We went to Lubbock, Texas, just known as the most boring town of America. And we went to Appleton, Wisconsin, known as the drunkest town.

Yeah. Well, that's not, is that necessarily a bad rap, right? I mean, the second one, I mean. Well, but you know what I mean? Like the drunkest, depending on, who you are in the lifestyle. Yeah, it depends on your attitude. That's either a compliment or an insult.

It was funny. In the same bar, you know, we were going around the bar just telling people like, you know, that's how we started each episode, like just confronting people like, did you know you're on this list? What are your thoughts on it? And there was half the bar that was like, you know, the mayor who was like, yeah, it's very insulting. This community's got a lot more going on.

And then there's people like, fuck yeah, I'm part of that. Right, yeah. Yeah. I think if you asked me, I'd never heard, that before, but if you'd ask me, what town do you think is considered the drunkest town in America? I wouldn't have landed on Appleton, but I would have said somewhere in Wisconsin. Yeah, I wouldn't have went with Wisconsin. Yeah, I know that they drank.

Just constipated and drunk any cheese. They, like, and just this week that I think Wisconsin made that they ruled their Supreme Court ruled it was illegal to close bars. And there's all these footage of like the bars packs. like, oh, this is like perfect. Yeah, that checks out. They're really trying to get on next season. Right.

Yeah, they're trying to get their own spin-off. But what we found was that, like, it's not really, when I was here in Drunkestown, I was imagining, like, you know, Mad Max in the snow, just like drunken people fighting hobo fights. But it's got none of that. It's like, I didn't even really see a lot of drunk people, honestly.

It was just like, it seemed like people to me that kind of had like a Viking mentality, which I think you have to have if you live in a place that's that cold for that long. So they just sort of, you know, they just everything to extremes. Like, you know, I went with them and did a polar plunge to this frozen river.

Shit, really? You did that? Like, I grew up, I grew up in the South of the whole life. I live in Southern California now. And I grew up on a lake town, so I love the water, but I hate the cold.

And that specifically, the whole polar plunge thing has always like, not only like not interested me, but like actively frightening to me. The idea, every time I've ever seen that, I'm like, God damn, dude,

I can't even imagine. Like, not for me. Like, so what was that like? It was definitely scary because it was like the second day of shooting.

And shooting these shows are like weird because you're kind of like figuring out on the fly. You know, you go and you meet people and they're like, oh, we're going to, you know, what if you do a polar plunge?

Then the producers are like, let's see if we can figure that out. And let's see if it's safe. And that's all happening at like 8 o'clock in night. And then they're like, okay, 6 a.m. You're going to get up and do it with a guy. I'm like, fuck. So we get down there. It's mid-January. It's snowy. And as far as they told me, they're like, look, I mean, you should

be fine. Like, you don't have any problems, health problems, right? So as soon as someone asked you that, you're like, why do we do? You should be fine. You know, I mean, like, pre-existing conditions. Yeah, I love how much respect they have for their insurance policy. It's six in the morning. You're about to do a thing. By the way, you don't have like a murmur. or anything, do you? Right, exactly. As soon as pre-existing health conditions is brought up, you're like, ugh.

Yeah, right. This is not why I got into comedy. Is the 6 o'clock in the morning part a big part of it for some reason? Like, I feel like that's like, you know, the coldest part of the day is early in the morning. Also, you've got to just roll out of bed and just, like, it's cold up there all day long, right? Like, do you have to do it at 6.8?

or is that like an art of it for them? I don't know. That's a very good question, man, because that's exactly why I have no interest in surfing. Because apparently you have to get up early. I'm like, I'm out. No. Yeah.

Yeah. Now here in Wisconsin, we got to do it at six in the morning. Otherwise, if we wait to lunch, it might warm up to a brisk negative 12 and we're not pussies. Right, right. And they have this crazy thing where after you do it,

I mean, this is like literally in the code of the polar plunge or whatever. You do it. And then they go, one more time. One more time. one more time, so then you have to do it again,

and you're like, what, this is just insane. This is not necessary. So, Trey, you would have hated this. So at the end, you know, basically the way the show works,

so I go and do all these crazy activities, I kind of get to the, you know, the core of what I can find out in the town. And then we have like this lead behind moment where I sort of share my thoughts, but I learned, and we kind of give them some sort of give back thing,

you know? So for this one, we built a giant slip and slide out of snow directly into the icy river, which was, definitely brutal as fuck but kind of fun. So I wish you would have been there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm good. Never right. That whole thing I said about being jealous. I'm feeling less of that now. But uh, but uh, it's a, I mean, I do think that's a really cool idea because, um, you know,

just the, the south in general, but specifically the town I'm from, there's multiple layers of my relating to the idea of people thinking where you live sucks, you know, or where you're from sucks. Like, I'm very much in tune with that idea. So I've always had a soft spot for any place that I know has a bad reputation. Like, like Detroit, like I've always sort of, I've never, I've never lived in Detroit. I've only ever visited there a few times, but I always like make it a point to defend it. And just because, because I feel like I understand.

what it's like to be from a place that everybody else thinks is horrific, you know? So the idea of this to general, I think, is really cool. But how did you guys land on those two? Did you talk about, surely you talked about a bunch of different places probably?

Like, did you scout out? Oh, yeah. It was, you know, part of it's just like, you know, all the years I've been doing stand-up and, admittedly not at, like, an enormously high level where I'm doing all the, like, A cities all the time. There's occasionally in Miami and in New York,

but mostly there's, you know, a Dayton and a, you know what I mean? Like, whatever, Kansas City on the Kansas side, you know, places that are a little off. Yeah. A little off of the deep. Not that they're not great places, great communities, but just generally, like, you know, considered the secondary markets or whatever. Yeah.

So I already, like, had a list of places I'd gone that people are like, oh, you're going to, that place sucks. You're going to hate that place. And then I went there. I was like, oh, no, I actually had a great time. it was pretty cool, you know? So I sort of used that, Roadwood Decks in my head,

and then we just did like a ton of research, you know? And it's kind of incredible, man. You should try. It's like, you can basically type in anything into Google, like adjective in America, like town like most, the ugliest, right?

Yeah, and you'll see, like, it comes up. So then after that, like, I mean, for Sacramento, for instance, has been voted in like a big publication

declared it's the town in America with the ugliest people. That's fucking hilarious. is hilarious. It's like that, like that, I don't know. Someone pitched that in a room and other people are like, that's perfect. Let's go with that. And then they somehow identified Sacramento, which like, I've been to Sacramento multiple times and I always have a good time there too. They got a fucking great comedy club there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Plenty of ugos, but, you know, that's everywhere, I guess. There's no, dude, there's no way that Sacramento, a place in California has the ugliest people. I can't imagine so. And it's also like, yeah, like how the fuck do they, how do they, how would you determine that? What do they just go through the Tinder there?

And they're like sort of grading each picture. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, because like, fat is not subjective. That's objective. Like a city can be the fattest. And what do you think? I was actually about to bring up, what do you think it is, Corey? I say Shreveport, Louisiana.

Fatist. That's my. I mean, I was, it's definitely somewhere in Louisiana or Mississippi. and by the way, I'm not, I'm just, look, here's the deal. It's somewhere in the South, let me say that, and I'm from the South, but of the areas of the South that has probably the best go at it, I mean, that's where all the good food is and shit. So like, you know, yeah, somewhere in that area.

I mean, that's, what you just said is very interesting. I wonder if, you know, I haven't looked at this, but I wonder if you did a study, right, and you found the place with the fattest people. Hey. Would it also interject with the best food? America. Yeah, it would have to. Yeah, I'll be a first list.

Listen to this. I actually, I Googled it, Mo, and you're right. Like, Google Auto Field. I typed in Fattest, CI, and it auto field city in America. Like, I knew what I wanted. And this is actually, this isn't like a clickbait article. This is like

a scholarly, because like Corey said, it's like an objective measure. This is like a research report or whatever. And the fattest city in America is the tri-city's area of McAllen, Edinburgh, and Mission, Texas. So I got to think that's barbecue, right?

Barbecue and refried bays, son. And number two, and number two is Shreveport, Louisiana. Boom. I was, I was awful. Yeah, that is impressive, man. You were gross. Yeah. And I said Louisiana because of the food, too.

Yeah. Right. Mexican food and barbecue, man, I'll fatten you up. Yeah. That's like a cold front and hot front meeting each other. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Number five, number five is my comedy hometown and old stomping grounds of Knoxville, Tennessee.

I can say that. I don't know. Yeah. I think that's more of a depressive fad around there maybe. I don't, we don't have a like, I mean, our food, our food hits in Knoxville, but not like, not like Louisiana hits, you know. So, Mo, what about Lubbock? Like, it was supposed to be the most boring town in America. So how did that go?

it's pretty funny too because when you Google Lubbock if you look at the Yelp like Yelp towards attractions in Lubbock like the number one things that come up are a windmill museum which just sounds like unbelievably fucking boring you know

and the second thing that comes up is a place called Prairie Dog Town which is just like a dirt field full of prairie dogs so we were driving in there I'm like yeah man this might be a tough episode you know what are you going to find but it turns

out that has all this kind of stuff that I wouldn't have thought. Like, for one thing, those glider planes, you know, planes without engines, like, that's really popular down there because I guess during World War II, they had the training facility for glider planes and a lot of the pilots stuck around. So it just sort of has like this weird sort of glider culture, which I was able to try out, which was fucking terrifying. And then just, have you ever been to one of those things? No, no, that's another time.

We're just, you're just highlighting multiple things that frighten me. that I don't like because I also am not a high I've never went skydiving or bungee jump or anything like that but I don't want to because I'm afraid of hides and I'm not into that sort of thing. So that also sounds horrible. Yeah, you're just not jealous at all at this point. I mean, they're just putting you through the ringer.

Yeah. But you know, you're like a, you like a more outgoing and just fun guy seems like. So I think you can find, like you can dig this sort of stuff. I would just be sitting there like, God, why are y'all? must I do this. Why are you forcing me to do this?

Me and Trey are both sad sacks of shit, is what he's trying to say. You seem like someone that is like a, what they call him a person. Yeah, you live. You guys, why are we just Google it? Why do we have? Yeah, all right, we know. You guys, why don't we just watch Mo show about it? Yeah, we'll just watch Moe show.

Mo will tell us. We'll watch him go to a place that's apparently known for wind, and that'll be good. All right, perfect, as long as we get the rating. Is Lubbock in West, Texas? I don't even know. Yeah, it's in West Texas. So they've got that huge wind farm. I drove through there on I-40 when we were moving from Tennessee to California.

I drove through West Texas. I mean, I don't remember if we passed Lubbock or not. But I remember windmills, as far as the eye could see on a huge stretch of it out there. Like, you literally couldn't see nothing but, like, Texas planes covered in windmills. I actually thought it was really rad looking. I enjoy it. No, I'm going to say the Windmill Museum as much as I kind of thought it was ridiculous and just saying the term windmill museum sounds absurd.

It actually was pretty cool. They had like 500 different windmills, you know, every different kind. And like you got to, you know, see him and everything. But then they have this thing, and I'm curious if you guys know about because you're from the South. You know, because part of the show is like, oh, if they say it's boring, well, let's do what the people do down here for fun and see, you know, maybe they just have a different kind of fun, which is what we kind of found out. It turned out to be a really fun place and pretty damn exciting, actually. But they do this thing that are called meat judging. Have you ever heard of that sport called meat judging?

Meat, like, as in, I don't know how to say this, dead meat, like, butchered meat. Butchered meat. We had, we did, like, live meat, like, livestock. Like, we would judge, like, cows and horses. I was actually, when I was a senior in high school, I was ranked one of the very worst horse judges in the state of Tennessee. Wow. Yeah, like literally like bottom seven or something like that. It was, I was bad.

I don't know. I think they're all pretty good. Yeah, they look fine to me. But no, I know, I know. So live stock judging like that and also meat shooting. We shoot meat where I'm from, which I've always thought was also pretty funny. But yeah, you shoot meat. But I don't know about meat judging those.

Wait, you're saying you have a thing where you shoot already dead meat? It's a meat shoot. I've heard different places do a different way because you shoot. It's like target shooting to win meat, like win a big, like Christmas ham or a big quality roast or something like that. But at some places, they literally just shoot targets. But I know in some places they shoot meat. The targets are meat. They're like shoot meat to win meat.

But anyway. That seems just like a bucket serial killer. shit. Yeah, right. So, but meat judging, no, I don't know. So why don't you inform us? It's fucking wild, man. It's like literally a collegiate, and they call it a sport where

it's competitive, timed judging of giant hunks of different meat. So I actually participate in like a little like, you know, contest, whatever. So these students are there. They're wearing hard hats for reasons I couldn't understand. And these white deli coats. And they go into this place and they're like, walk over. They're like, all right, go.

go and they walk over here and there's like eight giant hunks of like hanging dead pigs and they're like writing down fucking equations and doing looking at it and then they come over here and then you have to look at these cuts and you have to and by the end and you have to like rank first second third and it's like a fucking competition I was horrible I had no idea what I was looking at I was like it all just looks like a damn animal but they're looking at fat content and you know this and that that it was and it was like wasn't boring at all it was actually kind of stressful I feel like I was back in like a math class or something, but I didn't know what I was going on. Isn't, uh, yeah, yeah, that's one math you could hang in, Corey, I think.

But the meat math you usually do, at least I do, is like, can I afford that steak? Right, right. Isn't Lubbock where Texas Tech is? Yeah, that's what we did. Lubbock or leave it, maybe. Well, I mean, you know, I couldn't have been too boring when Patrick Mahomes was there, slinging around and stuff. Well, yeah, and they have a college.

I know. Right. And college football, college football atmosphere, I know what that is like. And Texas Tech is like, you know, they don't suck. They've had some really, really good years, and they've always got a really high-flying offense and stuff putting up a lot of points and shit like that. So, like, yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't have.

I said earlier, if you asked me the drunkest city of America, I would have guessed somewhere in Wisconsin, and I really think I would have. But if you asked me the most boring one, I don't think I would have. anywhere in Texas. No. Right. Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, people there definitely didn't find it boring and we went to this crazy-ass rodeo or another

thing you probably didn't want to do. I got out there and wrestle the cow. No, I'd do that. I'd wrestle a cow. Y'allos are the shit. I love rodeos. Me and Corey have actually talked recently about how if we're ever on the road in like Texas or something, if we ever cross past, if we have like a day,

or a night off when there's one of those big ass rodeos that they have in Texas, because I've been to the rodeo in Tennessee growing up and I always thought it was cool, but it's not like in Texas where I know that it's like arena rodeo shit. It's right. I have been to one. Yeah. I haven't and I would love

to. I think it'd be sweet. Yeah. I mean, it's just fucking insane rodeo. Like I got out there and did like, as like a, what's it called? Rodeo clown. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, yeah. I was like,

it's fucking terrifying. This giant. Bull and I'm like, I'm scared just being in the vicinity of it. There's a dude's sitting on it, you know? And the town, like, everybody we asked if it was boring, they all knew about that and they're all kind of annoyed about it. You know, they definitely have like a chip on their shoulder about being called

that, but they all, like, no one seemed to find it boring. Like, yeah, you're saying Texas, text there. They have this whole fucking, like, rodeo culture. And it also turns out to have, like, one of the biggest wine growing communities in Texas. It's like one of the biggest wine industries is there. So, it's just like, you know, classic idea

of shitty bad clickbait journalism. And you go there and everyone's like, that's completely not true. This is actually a fucking super unique, fun place. So I guess I see how the Lubbock one, they have been deemed the most boring. And you go there and you do all this kind of wild shit and it sort of resolves. See, obviously, it's not that boring here. But to circle back to Appleton, Wisconsin, though, I know these people weren't drunk when they're jumping in the river and all of that.

But did you sort of like, did you like resolve that in a similar way? Do you know what I'm asking? Did you get to a point? You're like, see, this is unfair or was it like, no, they drink, but they are okay with it? Or like how, you know, have that go? For sure. So we try to like actually do some real research, right? So we were talking to the mayor and asking him why he thinks it ended up on that list.

And he was saying that like, you know, he had looked into how that list was put together. And they were one of the major things they were going off was the amount of bars per capita, which Appleton has the most bars per capita of any other place in a. America. But that doesn't, what you definitely see is you drive into town is just like fucking bars everywhere. It's ridiculous. But, you know, he was saying that like he looked into that and that statistically doesn't mean they were actually drinking more. It just means that like instead of having like a bowling alley and an arcade, it's just another bar and another bar, you know. And then I took a ride along with a police officer while I was there, which was kind of cool.

And he was telling me that out of all the people who came to their most recent music festival they have downtown, it's called like Miles of Music. something like that. Only one person was arrested and it's like open carry and shit. So even if they are drinking a lot, it's pretty clear they're just really fucking good drinkers. Right. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and that's something. And what we kind of just like, I don't know, it just sort of seemed to me like by the end, it was not just a town of like, because like you're saying like there's different kinds of fat. There's also different kinds of drinking. Is it a depressive drinking? Right. You know, party drinking, angry

drinking. Seemed to me like a town that just sort of takes everything to extremes, you know, and whatever they're going to do, who they're going to do. Like, one more time, one more time. You know, they're going to sort of like, they have like this really kind of adventurous, like, I think Viking type spirit. Do you have, do you have ideas or in for, you know, once the world, once the apocalypse is over, if you guys can go back to this and make some more, you have some things that

are on the cutting block or something like that that, that you really would like to do or something that's come up since then, like, you know, the craziest town in America or something like that that you're like looking forward to hopefully getting to do? Yeah, absolutely, man. Before we be, before the COVID disaster, you know, I was thinking now we can go to every town and every town would be the most boring town in America. Yeah, right. It would just be a bunch of people sitting in their house. Yeah. Yeah, it would suck.

Where's the most COVID-y town in America? Manhattan. Yeah, not Panama City Beach. I promise you that. But, yeah, one place we want to go is called Kalinga. We went there during the development of the show. We had to, we had to shoot like a sizzle. We went to Kalinga, and it's not the smelliest town of America.

Have you ever driven up the five between San Francisco and L.A.? Yes, yeah, we have. Well, we did the other way. We drove from San Francisco to L.A. the middle of a tour run once. And, yeah, it's a big stretch of mostly nothing with some, yeah, farm, agriculture shit and a lot of, a lot of big trucks and stuff like that, too. It was not what you think of when you think of California.

Yeah, not at all. You remember one part, they're just like as cows, as far as the eye can see. And it just reeks of cow shit. Actually, yeah, I do remember that. I remember the smell, because we kept talking about it. Because we'd only driven through there once, and we kept saying, like, wow, it still stinks. Like, what is this going to stop stinking? So, yeah, I do remember that.

So anyway, that is where the exit for Kollinga, California, which the internet is dubbed Kolenla, so it's gotten this idea for being like the smelliest town in America. But when we actually got and went there, it's just funny because I've driven by it like a thousand times and I've always just talked shit and like, oh, my God, the place is fucking disgusting. It stinks so bad. how can I even live there. But I had never actually gotten off the freeway. Right. And so we went up to a shoot. We actually went to the town. It turns out you actually drive a few miles off the freeway and it's kind of away from the wind or whatever. It doesn't smell that bad at all. And it's actually, it turns out to be like this really kind of cute, very

livable town. And it turns out that we met this guy there has like this giant like piece of property that he puts on like the biggest mud bogging events west of the Mississippi. So I got to go up there and like get these like monster trucks guys build, gun them through there. And it's like, It was pretty awesome, man. So I would like to go back there and shoot like a full-on episode because I think that town is like, you know, it has this terrible PR campaign of being right next to a Cal Feedlot. Right.

So people just drive by and like, ugh, I play sucks, but they don't ever actually, you know, go check it out. Right. Yeah, that sounds great. This whole thing sounds great to me. So I'm going to check it out later tonight and make sure everybody out there, you'll check it out too.

Comes on tonight, Wednesday, May 20th on Discovery. Did I get that right, Mo? Anything else? You nailed it. Yeah, one other thing is I'm writing articles about each town in USA Today too. So that's kind of cool. So like now if you Google whatever, you know, hopefully my article come up first and you'll see, you know, some of the good shit. Also, how can people just find you out there?

Just all your stuff just under your name, Mo Mandel? Yeah, Mo Mandel.com. And then on Instagram, because somebody snaked me and got it first. It's the real moment. Yeah, same thing I've been to me. So I hear you. Yeah. Snakes.

Well, yeah. If anybody's watching YouTube, I'd like to apologize for this non-haircut that I'm muddying up the airways with. That's okay. Oftentimes, if people watch us on YouTube, Drew is just making mashed potatoes. So it doesn't really matter. Yeah, shirtless. At this point, it's like a social experiment.

How long can my hair and eyebrows? get and beer get and my fiancee will still have sex with me yeah well who else is you good i have sex with right yeah i've got this like i've got this like will smith's wild wild west villain mustache situation going here and just looking sillier and sillier every day actually you're looking more like a hipster now i don't say that i mean you're right but yeah yeah i know i need to do side. I've got to figure something out to, you know,

like put on my Willie Nelson bandana or something. Because with those kind of mustache, you go from, like, country guy to, like, Portland hipster real quick. I know it's because, and Drew,

Drew does a whole bed about this, uh, those motherfuckers have co-opted a lot of our shit. And that's why now people associate stuff like mustaches and trucker hats and shit with them. All you've got to do, though, is say one word and they're like,

oh, never mind. That's true. He's just a favorite. He's the other kind. He's the scarier kind, the dumber kind. Anyway, Moe's great to talk to you, man. I'm glad here, you know, you're doing good,

and you've got this thing coming out. Sounds really cool. And yeah, man, thanks for coming on here and telling us about it. Yeah, man, thank you guys, man. I'm a big fan of your both. And I love the podcast. Right on, buddy. Mo Mandel, everybody.

Small town throwdown to Discovery Channel tonight. Check it out. All right. We'll see you guys next time. Scoo! Scoo! Thank you all for listening to the Well, Red, We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go.

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