wellRED podcast - #173 - Social Distance Parties and Police Training (Oh Boy!)
Episode Date: June 17, 2020This week the boys talk about having Social Distance Parties and discuss the insane methods in which cops are trained. Also other stuff! wellredcomedy.combluechew.com (promo code RED)...
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They're the.
They're the emerald sex daycare.
Way upset, but they got three big old dicks that you can sun.
It hits for Amber to shave my head.
And so yesterday she did, but it was with a different set of clippers that she wasn't used to.
And also, she were buzzed.
And my head is in so much.
much pain right now.
Like she just like kept like, I can't even explain how she was doing it, but like she would
be on my head like, and then she would like lift up and then go to put it back on my head
and just hit me in the head as hard as she could with the fucking set of razors and cut my
fucking head.
I was bleeding.
So.
Ugh.
Yeah, it didn't hit.
Bleeding from your head?
Yeah, I know.
Gush her.
A lot of blood.
Yeah, right.
I'm popping a grape.
Yeah. How was y'all's yard party?
Drew?
I thought it hit.
I thought it hit.
It's fun. I don't know if you noticed or cared.
That you left abruptly and it was weird.
Me?
No.
They left.
Why, I mean, dude, they left.
I mean, are you saying I should have just left when Mark left if I was going to leave like that?
No, no, no.
I'm not upset you left.
It's just like we were talking.
And then it was like my turn to talk.
And I didn't care of what I was.
It was just my turn to talk.
and then you go, you were looking at your phone.
I think sending me money that I asked you not to send me.
And then you go, and then you just go, okay, yeah, man, I'll see you later.
It hit for me in a way because it was funny.
Well, in my mind, Mark and Tony-
I didn't he leave him more?
Okay, Mark and Tony just left and I was like, I'll hang up for a minute.
Then I got my phone out.
Then I started talking.
And I had a text from Katie that was like,
when are you coming home?
whatever and Mark and him it just left so that had happened I got a text for Katie that's when I was
coming home and I was like fuck it I'm just going to leave too and I left too and that's what happened
no I wasn't mad that you left and I want to be clear I wasn't mad that you weren't really listening
to me because it wasn't super important it is something that I can't say on the podcast I can tell
you Corey but we can't really say it publicly but it's just it was just my turn to comment on
something related to our business Corey so I just again I don't like I wasn't say anything I
haven't said a million times it just it was my turn to comment.
turn to talk and I said it and then he goes, all right, and he just got up and left. And he was like,
did Trey leave? And I was like, yeah, yeah, he did. I thought you might have got high. A part of me was like,
did he smoke and I missed it? Because it was very much a, I got to go. Yeah, I think it's just like
this pandemic has taught us how precious time is. And so now Trey's just conditioned to the second
something, he just turned, he turned show. The second something started not hitting.
Irish goodbye.
I was like, we're leaving without saying bye, but in front of you.
Yeah, the second it stopped hitting, it was like, oh, can't do this no more.
Got to go.
Got to go back something that hits, my bad.
Dude, I, like, as long as you weren't annoyed with me, saying goodbye.
I do, too.
I don't know.
Mark was cute because he told us he loved us twice.
I don't know if you caught that because he's drunk.
Andy thought it was great.
He was hitting for me all night.
Corey, Mark had his first.
Popeye's chicken sandwich.
Yeah, yeah, tell me about that.
What was so funny to me was that he loved it,
but that the tone he was using was like surprise.
Yeah.
And it's just, to me, it was so hard.
Like everyone's been wrong for a year.
He was like, this chicken sandwich is good.
And we were like, yeah, the whole world thinks so.
Yeah, like people have been waiting in line for hours.
And yeah, man.
but he just thought,
nah,
they're dumb.
Yeah,
right.
So what I was going to say is,
a regular.
Surely spicy,
right?
Yeah,
right.
He got spicy,
yeah.
I just thought it was funny.
I don't,
it was going to make us
sound a little shitty,
maybe,
but I just,
we,
so we had a yard party.
We had done this once before,
it was just me,
you and Mark,
we sit in the yard
in chairs that are like
five or six feet apart.
We don't physically touch each other.
We sit,
there like socially distancing just drinking and talking about shit and we've done that literally
one time and that's exactly how it went and it was fine and then this past Saturday we like yeah let's
do that again but like before too long all that just went completely out the window pretty much
is the part that I thought was funny like everybody everybody ended up in the house together like
making out you know there was high fives and stuff like we just and I'm not trying to you know
make light of us being cavalier about the situation,
although that's literally exactly objective
of what I'm doing right now,
but I thought it was just kind of funny.
We talked about it soberly,
and then in a metal way lived it.
Right.
We all had talked about how we were subconsciously becoming
more and more comfortable around people
and starting to kind of break rules here and there,
and then we just ended up living it.
I talked about this same thing with DJ,
and he was talking about how he
still went to see Jables
and an hour later they were wrestling.
Yeah,
I mean,
that's what happens is that you just add alcohol
to a situation
and you're,
you know,
everything's out the window.
Like we had a similar situation
a couple weeks ago,
me and some of my buddies
that we got in the yard,
we were all apart.
We were just sitting there
in lawn chairs drinking.
Nobody was going in the house or nothing.
But we got fucking hammered.
And I don't think it was just like a,
it wasn't like a conscious decision
for everybody to be like,
oh, well, fuck it.
We don't care.
we just forgot and we just all started going.
It was like,
God damn it's hot out here.
Let's go in the house.
We're just all drinking from the same soup bowl,
licking each other.
Just like, oh yeah,
I forgot there's a disease.
We just went back to me.
Well, I think it's like,
I think it's obviously the alcohol thing.
It's part of it.
But also I think it's like a snapshot of society as a whole where it's like,
I don't know, man.
It just seems to me like there's like an upper limit on the amount of time
that people can,
continue to like not be around each other and be actively terrified of a thing I guess.
Yeah.
You know, like, like it's, it becomes, like, and part of this is the way it's covered and treated
too.
It became, at first it was the number one news thing.
It was the, like, the most important thing going on in the whole world and it was crazy
and intense.
And anybody ever thought or talked about.
But then that went on for weeks and weeks and you get fatigue of like anything,
even if it's not okay to feel that way,
it's like human nature.
It just happens.
And then it kind of doesn't fall out of the news cycle,
but it becomes secondary in the new cycle to another massive thing
that kind of pushes it to the back seat.
And places are already decided,
fuck it, we're reopening.
Well, cases are going back up and paper is like,
well, we're still going to reopen.
And it just becomes this thing where psychologically society is like,
ah, we're done with all that.
Even though we're not.
Right.
No, we're not at all.
And the thing is, it's like, we're definitely not done if everybody starts acting that way.
Right. Exactly. Yeah.
The thing is, and for the record, when I say this, I'm not trying to use some talking point that, like, this is a very Republican talking point is what I'm saying.
However, like, there is a little bit of like, oh, I mean, I kind of get what they're fucking saying on this.
We had like, you know, if you fucking go outside and you're around a group of people and you're not wearing a mask, you're a fucking dickhead.
Like, if you can help it, you shouldn't be around a lot of people anyways.
And then the protests happened.
and the same people saying that are like,
if you're not out protesting, you're a fucking dickhead.
And I can see some people being like, okay, but was I supposed to stay in the house?
Or was I not supposed to?
So it's fine if it's for justice.
And like I get that.
They're like this, you know, the Black Lives Matter movement and police brutality does seem to.
It's like, look, man, I'm sorry.
Logic is being thrown out the window right now.
Nobody knows what the fuck do.
But as some people, I can understand him being like, okay, so last week I couldn't even go to Chick-fil-A to get a sandwich.
but now I'm supposed to go to the fucking courthouse with 500 people.
Which one's right and which one's wrong and what the fuck do we do?
And like you said, psychologically, I think everybody's just like,
God damn, man, there's so much fucking going on that like I just need to see my buddy right now.
And another aspect of it that I did recently and realized afterwards,
I've been meaning to say something to you about this, Drew,
because me and Drew and Andy went to a protest and we met up with a friend of Andy's who I don't know
and it just met her that day.
Drew and Andy gave me and that girl a ride home afterwards,
dropped the girl off first.
The point is we're outside in this big protest,
with a big group of people,
but like outside and marching and spread apart and whatever.
Everybody has masks.
Everybody has masks on.
We've got masks on the whole time.
And there are people giving out masks.
We're out there for hours, like four hours or something like that at least.
I got some burned, didn't hit.
But anyway, have masks on the whole time.
while outside in the open air.
We finally get back to Drew's car at like four or five o'clock or whatever it was.
And as soon as we get into the car and close the door,
me, Drew and Andy all just like ripped our mask off immediately.
And I even said, I was like, I pulled it off and like just exhaled my breath all over.
You know, I was just like, I was like, oh, feels good to take that motherfucker off, you know.
And like, yeah, that's just.
And then right after I did that, I realized like, oh, man, that like,
You're not supposed to have done that.
Uh-uh.
No, what's the point?
The moment you find in the closed, close, closed, an enclosed, yeah, a sealed off environment
with multiple people in close proximity together is exactly the time you should not take
your mask off.
But like, without even thinking about it, we all, and Andy's friend did not, which
heard doing that is what made me realize, like, oh, that didn't hit what I just did.
No, no, right, right.
But you don't even think about it.
like getting home after a long day and like kicking your boots off or whatever or at least
I didn't. I just got in the car ripped it off and was like, oh, well, dude, we're also dying to do that.
I think this is pretty consistent. And Corey, I don't, I know what you're saying is that there's
people like that and it's hard to like hate them if they're like, last week I couldn't need a sandwich
and now you're expecting me to go March. At the very least, this is conflicting. I understand
people feel that way and they're not insane if they do. But I also don't think it's insane.
that the whole time all any of us have needed to do is our best.
Right.
Whether you're talking about trying to get the government to pay people who can't work,
to keeping up open hospitals because you fucking have to,
but closing down places that aren't as necessary,
to wear your mask if you're outside and outdoors.
But look, if you're at work for eight hours and you need a break,
take a fucking break.
You know, if you don't want to wear a mask for eight hours straight,
then don't.
Take a fucking break.
and with the marches it's like i mean look i made a conscious decision and i'm not ashamed of it
no i respect everyone there wore masks etc etc i think that we've all been doing our best i don't think
we did our best tray at the party for hey for the record please please don't think that i was trying
to make i was trying to uh slight you in any way oh i wasn't yeah okay yeah i wasn't i just think
that the rule has people have talked about different things but what it should have been and what
I hope I've always come across as saying is we should just all do our best.
Yeah.
And if you're going into the fucking beach without a mask getting drunk, you're not doing your best.
Right.
You know what I mean?
But all I expect from anyone is do their best.
If you wear a mask for three hours and then you need 30 minutes off, then take 30 minutes off, boo-boo.
Don't fucking die from your mask.
But, you know, we weren't doing our best that by the end of our get-together,
not before last or last night, not before last.
I admit that.
and I think, Trey, it's, it's associated with what you're talking about.
And you too, Corey, in some ways, a lot of people have not done their best.
No, not even try.
The people who have done their best are getting sick of looking at people who ain't doing their...
It's like, it don't matter what I do if you still are getting drunk at Kid Rock's bar and fucking everybody every week.
Like, it was for nothing.
Yeah, well, that's, yeah, when all this first started going on, and it's still serious now,
but when it seemed way more, like, right when it was like, oh, shit, guys, this isn't just,
we need to skip a concert last weekend.
Like, we might, we might be in for like several months.
I was, I was not only doing my best, I was like doing anyone's best.
I was fucking not leaving my goddamn house.
I was trying not to lay band.
You know, I went three and a half, four weeks without even seeing my parents who live right down
the street from me and they were pissed like they were like why don't you come over and i was like i'm
doing this for you i was just i was at lax airport i don't want to fucking yada yada yada and then um i had
like i got so goddamn furious because i've been acting like that and then there was a couple
people who just uninvited just dropped by my house and were like they came in and they were like
oh man we've just been we've just been in lockdown too long we're getting bored and blah blah blah and
i was like do you realize what you've just done you coming in here have just negated all the work
that I've done.
Like, I definitely now can't go see.
I wasn't going to anyways, but like, let's say hypothetically.
It'd been a month.
And I was like, well, I've been quarantined.
And so my parents, I feel comfortable going to say, hey, to mom on the porch.
I fucking don't feel that way now because of your ass, because of what you've done.
It's irresponsible.
So, yeah, man, I feel you.
And I'm not as much on lockdown like that as I was.
I probably still should be.
But I think at this point, we're all doing the best and also doing our best to, like, remain
insane and still do our best.
Where at the beginning, it was like, oh, we could use a break from people.
You know, fuck it.
We'll just stay in.
And now it's like, God damn.
And I got to go to store.
Well, there's no way for me to, and I don't want to come across as to justify
turning a small yard party where we all are spread out into coming to the house.
And then people are high-fiving.
Shouldn't have done it.
Won't again.
Like if you guys come back over, I'll come.
keep everybody outside.
I'm not trying to justify that.
I'm just trying to say that
I think the ship has sailed.
Yeah.
If everybody's open it up,
yeah. Well, but okay, on a positive note,
as far as that goes,
we're talking about this the other night, Drew.
Yeah, I agree.
I think I know what you're going to say.
It's not very positive.
No, I think it,
anyway, when people are opening back up
despite the fact that cases are going up
and shit and everybody,
it's just like, yeah, fuck it.
we're reopening.
Like even like California,
even liberal states,
like,
yeah,
we're reopening.
We tried.
Fuck it.
We're reopening now.
But what,
still,
they're reopening in different places
treat it with different levels of sincerity.
But I know that like,
they're reopening with rules.
Like we're comedians,
comedy clubs.
They have rules.
They cap the things.
They put people X amount apart,
yada, yada.
Drew's been to a bar
where they laser your forehead
to test your temperature
on the way in.
a lot of places are doing that.
A lot of places are basically not allowing you to be inside.
They put like picnic tables and shit like that outside.
You can hang out there, you know, whatever,
but you need to be outside unless you're just coming and use the bathroom.
Shit like that.
All kinds of different things like that.
And like the thing is,
it's like, yeah, that's not perfect.
That's not the same as like quarantining or lockdown.
Of course it's not.
But like, dude, all that shit, it has to do something.
It does.
It's so much different than the way we used to.
operate. That's so much different than just going to a bar to watch an NFL playoff game. And
everybody's packed in there like sardines all lined up at the bar. You know what I mean? And
your fucking shoulder to shoulder with 150 other people versus this new
version of it. Like it has to fucking make a difference. Like even if it's like not the best we
could all be doing as a society, it's got to, it's got to help a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I feel
the need to explain. I went to a bar and this is similar to what you, you were
saying about once you start down a path of letting go, you just let go more.
We ordered food from a bar.
While we were waiting on it, I got a drink with my friends, Andy, my wife and our friend
Carmen, and we went to the outdoor patio to wait on the food.
Because it was like, well, we're here.
We'll just go to the outdoor patio and drink a beer there.
That's not going to hurt.
Well, then you get to the outdoor patio.
It's like, well, we're already here.
We might as well eat.
you know the other thing i want to say real quick the reason i said i think i know what you're
going to say and it's not actually that positive i thought you're going to say and i didn't know
this but you or mark told me that that the cases are climbing but the death rate has kind of gone
down yeah that's a mark thing mark also told my source on that is mark yeah but i but i'm not
mark be knowing stuff well my theory on that core is that it's because it already killed them right
You can't die again.
Right.
Like it killed the old people.
And the reason the death rates are going down is because, you know,
the only people getting it now ain't going to die.
Right.
Part of what Mark was also saying.
And again, so just so everybody knows, this is from our buddy Mark.
Okay.
All of this data and information is coming from our buddy Mark.
But here's what Mark said.
Okay, but listen.
Mark's a former journalist.
He's a former journalist, writer.
I was about to say, let me say this.
But most the time, if we say, my buddy Mark,
said something that you should take it with
discount that. Mark, Mark is
smart and hits and he shaved
him every day and wears glasses. He's that type
of dude. Really trim beard mark.
Like, yeah, yeah, when he read stuff,
it's good stuff to read.
Go ahead.
So anyway, no,
you're right. I mean, I'm mostly trying to hit.
Mark is smart. This is Smart Mark. This ain't from
drunk, Mark. Well, actually, he drunk, too.
But anyway, you know what I mean. I ain't from fat,
dumb Mark that we all know. This is from
smart Mark. Anyway,
Smart Mark says that in addition to death rate being down,
there's also, like, evidence that it's not, like, affecting people as harshly as it was
and no one understands why.
And he's just like, there's a lot of weird shit going on with it.
Like, Drew has his theory that the death rate is going down because everybody died already.
But, like, as far as what Mark was saying, it's like, the death rate's going down.
There's evidence that it's not fucking people up as bad.
as it once was and like we don't understand why any of that shit's happening.
So it's just a really weird disease and anecdotally a buddy told me and I don't even
I am not drawing any conclusions from this story. I'm sincerely not. It's just a wild
story. Okay. My buddy works at a nursing home back home and he had been telling us when
all the craziness started how hardcore they were being and stringent about their procedures
because of course they are.
It's a fucking nursing home.
Yeah.
But it ended up getting into this nursing home.
And he told me, you know, obviously they were really worried about that or whatever.
But that already has happened.
It's like it worked its way through this nursing home.
A nursing home in an impoverished rural southern area.
People do not be healthy here, let alone the people who are in the nursing home.
No, that's one of the least hitting sentences I've ever heard you say.
Yeah, I know.
Tell me about it.
Buddy, does not hit.
No.
See them, man at them.
Down here.
And anyway, COVID got in there and he said something like 80%, and I'm probably
butchering this, but the numbers are not far off.
The takeaways are the same.
There's something like 80% of their clients or whatever they're called patients, residents,
80% of their residents got it.
And about half of those were symptomatic at all, right?
And these are all old people.
So like half of them were totally asymptomatic.
had no symptoms at all.
And of the ones who were symptomatic,
they all eventually recovered, he said,
which I thought was like fucking crazy.
I know he's not lying about it,
and it's probably just a statistical anomaly.
That's why I'm being careful to say,
I'm not drawing any specific conclusions from that.
I'm just sharing a pretty wild anecdote
that was shared with me about this situation.
Well, dude, I've heard,
I've read or heard that some models are saying
that it's really not that deadly,
that they thought it.
it was deadly more prevalent than they thought.
So its death rate is only one or two percent.
It's just so many more fucking people had it than they thought.
Right, right, right.
It seemed way more deadly at first because the number of people who had it was way lower than it actually was.
So the percentage of people who had it and died from it.
Right.
But you still have mass graves in New York City, so we still have to do our best.
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Skew.
I know what you said is anecdotal, but like, man, some of them depression era, rural, old folks,
you just can't fucking kill them, man.
like I just I've I've known me a lot that or died that or died you're right yeah you're
man my fuck dude my uncle Gordon lived till 98 years old that son of a bitch drank
paps blue ribbon dip beach nut ate fried food smoke cigarettes and shit every goddamn day you just
and he I think he died he just didn't want he got tired of being alive
he just sat down his chair he's like well my dog died last year nothing hits and he just
close his eyes and fucking went to see my granny that's what happened like
Like they just can't fuck with them.
Well, they can't die, dude.
Who's going to hold the line against progress?
I know.
They are the vanguard against social progress,
so they have to hang on by everything.
Speaking of, I guess we should talk about that.
About what?
Old people being,
old people dying and being racist.
Social progress or lack there of, I guess is what I bet.
I wanted to know if y'all seen where Biden came out
said he was going to give $300 million to cops.
No.
Was it to not shoot black people?
Because that'd be sweet.
Here you go.
If y'all can not shoot black people for a whole year, you can have his 300 million.
It's like a gold star reward program.
The plan is, uh, it's not a reward program.
That might work.
The plan is just to like retrain them, you know.
But it's like, we already told them not to kill me.
Like, we've been telling them.
Yeah.
What was their original training?
and just them sitting around shooting fucking black mannequins every day.
I will say our buddy Earl, I saw Earl last night in a yard party at his house,
Trey, me and Andy went over.
Earl told me, we social distance, we did a good job.
Earl told me that he did SWAT training for some movie or show he was trying to do.
Of course he did.
Yeah, he was like, look, I don't have pretentious LA, but I've done SWAT training.
He said that they are.
If they see a weapon, they shoot.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, we were joking about, how are they training them before to shoot them?
But like, yeah, no, they do.
Like the training they get is fucked up, man.
Oh, the way the simulation works, too, is we're all on a nightmare,
and Kevin's in charge.
No, the way the police simulations work is if you don't shoot somebody
as soon as they even flash a weapon, whether there's back to you,
whether they're running away from you, whatever it is,
your partner dies in the simulation.
Right.
Your partner dies.
And by the way, I don't mean someone pulls a gun on you and then you shoot them.
Like literally someone's running away from you and you see a knife in your hand.
In the simulation, if you don't shoot them in the bat, your partner gets stabbed later in the simulation.
That don't hit.
I mean, they're literally being trained to be warriors, to go to war, not all these.
Soldiers.
Do you know who day?
Dave Grossman is?
I don't think so.
First of all, his name is Grossman, which is appropriate.
But he's like one of the most popular, I guess.
He's like one of the top police training gurus in the United States of America.
He goes all over America training cops, right?
So let's just so he's like bullet points here.
Dave Grossman's bulletproof mind is teaching law enforcement agencies across the United States,
militarized tactics in which officers are told to see themselves as being at war on the streets.
The retired Army Ranger and former West Point Instructor has been teaching his classes for more than two decades.
He focuses on a concept he has dubbed Killology or the study of killing and uses it to teach officers to kill with less hesitation.
agencies have started turning away from the courses in recent years
after it was discovered that Minnesota police officer
who fairly shot Philando Castile has taken one of Grossman's courses.
This article is from, oh no, this is a recent article.
The Philando Castile thing made me think it was from that time,
but you know, who can keep up with all the murders.
Yeah, right, right.
It's pretty evergreen.
Listen to this shit, dude.
This is a direct quote from the guy.
I am convinced from a lifetime of study that if you fully prepare yourself,
in most cases, killing is just not that big of a deal.
For a mature warrior who has prepared their self's mind, body, and spirit for a lifetime.
For a mature warrior, who's killing represents a clear and present danger to others,
it's just not that big a deal.
In other words, got to go ahead.
Grossman said in 2015, while speaking in front of a group in a segment film for the 2016
police militarization documentary do not resist. Grossman also enticed his audience by noting that
killing can lead to great sex. I love that this Grossman dude basically essentially what he said was,
you know, it turns out when you brainwash people, it's not really that big of a deal for them to
murder it. So I don't understand what y'all's problem is. They don't care. They love to do it. Just let
them do it. But there's a part of me that appreciates that man's bold honesty in terms of...
He's a psychopath.
Well, right. Well, he's like, look, you know, you'll have great sex and you won't care if you murder people if you listen to me.
And it's like, I want so many more people to realize that's how these police are being trained because it's like they don't believe that that's what's actually happening because it sounds so out of bounds.
I mean, even I, part of me assumed it was being at least somewhat hidden.
You know what I mean?
But no, grossman's just out there, buddy, you want to talk about coming.
Murderer, dude. I mean, that's crazy.
And that's who this top sign.
Exactly.
No, you're right.
Like, people, right.
It's always, oh, we got to train them better.
They're training.
It's like, dude, no, their training is the problem.
Or it's a big part of the problem.
Like, you know, y'all don't understand how they are trained, you know.
My mama has come around a lot for the record the last week.
And one thing she told me is that she was researching on the ACLU's website.
And I may have told you all this already.
I'm sorry if I did.
But one thing she said that stood out to me is she was like, well, Drew, I think, I
They also use got of these studies
to show all these ways that would help
and they get money from the feds to do these studies
and they tell these police forces what to do
and they just don't do it.
Yeah.
And that's sort of where I'm at with like,
giving the police $300 million to quote-unquote train.
They won't do it, yeah.
The feds have no way.
The feds cannot themselves disband a police department
or really threaten them.
All they can say is we'll stop giving you money.
But like, without any threat of,
if you don't improve things,
we will get rid of you.
We can't change these places.
And because police unions are so powerful,
there is no threat.
And that's why I personally say defund the police.
Yeah, I know,
I apologize to you two in advance for this
because I know I've told this story a lot frequently,
but it actually has not been on this show.
Not Bono, just the rest of you two.
I will never apologize to you two.
But I do not have for me.
But anyway,
Anyway, I have told the story a lot recently because it's been relevant,
but I actually have not told it on our show.
It's been on other people's shows I've been on with y'all and other circumstances.
So real quick, just talking about how it's institutional
and it's a training issue and it's a cultural issue with cops across the board.
Again, an anecdote in support of that.
When I lived in East Tennessee, I lived by a guy who was only a couple years younger than me,
but he lived in his parents' basement, always had.
He, like, race go-carts.
Meanwhile, I'm married with two young children,
and honestly, I was too young for that.
He was too old for what he was doing.
But anyway, he was one of those types
that could never hold down a job up until that point.
He was a really nice guy, though.
I didn't dislike him.
I was just like, God, this dude needs to get shit together, basically.
It just kind of seemed like a loser.
Yeah.
So then he got into the police academy locally.
And he was like, he was also like,
he was in good shape. He was like a young,
fit guy. He looked like he'd been in the military, but he
hadn't been. He was like that type of dude.
And honestly, and like I said, he was a nice
guy also. When I found out he's in the
Police Academy, I was like, that checks out. That might
actually work for him. We went to the same
gym. I saw him at the gym a little while
later after not seen him for a while. And I said,
how's the cop thing going? And he goes,
ah, it didn't work out. And at first,
I was like, of course it didn't work out. But I
just meant, in my mind, it was like literally
just because it was a job.
He don't have any, any, any job.
It wasn't matter. But he was like, I didn't work out. And I was like, oh, really? What happened? And he goes, and I never heard him say nothing even approaching this level of profundity before. But he said, well, shortly after I got out of the academy and I was on shift one night when I was working, a situation happened where I had to draw my service weapon. And I realized the moment that I drew that weapon, that whatever it is that you have to have inside of,
of you another human being, I do not have that thing. And so I knew that I could never do that job.
And I've told this story for years because I've never done a 180 on a person faster.
Because initially when he told me that, I gained so much respect for him as an individual.
I was like, holy shit, man. I didn't know you had that kind of depth to you, basically.
But I was like, dude.
I just thought you was fat, dumb and don't hit. Right. Yeah. I was like, good for you.
And that's the only way I ever really looked at it.
And I think that's a valid way to look at it too.
But I told that story to Drew and Smart Mark a few weeks ago
and during our first yard party.
And when I told that story to them,
Drew said, well, the wrong cop quit.
And like, I'd never even really thought about it that way,
but it's completely true.
Like, another way to look at what he was saying was basically,
he's been through cop training.
And so he knows that if he cannot,
kill a person, he has no business doing that job.
Because that is how they are trained.
He felt like he had no place on the force because he knew that he didn't have it in and
to kill somebody.
And that's like part of what's so fucked up about the whole situation.
And let's point out that he voluntarily quit.
He did not get murdered.
His partner did not get murdered.
In other words, he was right not to kill whoever it was.
He drew his service weapon up.
Right.
Yes, right. Yeah. And man, it's, it's so fucked up too because it's just like, you know, and I'm sure obviously there's people who still still very much would love if John Stewart ran for office or, you know, did anything in that regard. And he'd been asked several several days like, no, I'm never going to run. And somebody, it may have been Colbert was talking about John Stewart. And they're like, yeah, that's the shitty thing about politics is the person who would do really, really good at it has no interest in doing it ever. Right. It's always, the only people who have interest in doing it are people who won't absolute.
hour and shit like that.
Either Plato or Socrates one
was the first person in paper
to point that out.
Yeah.
And then whichever one it was,
their solution to it was just to let the philosophers rule,
which is hilarious because that's what he was.
Right, exactly.
We or have people who don't want to do it.
But since we don't,
we don't.
Yeah, me and my buddies who just stay drunk on a hill all the time,
listen to us.
Corrin, did you hear any of that?
here's what I said
you said the thing about the philosophers
and then it froze and I started to be like
oh yeah of course the drunks that sit on a hill
all goddamn day thinking about stuff
want people to listen to them
and then it started
it froze completely and I and I heard
what
what's funny you froze right at the moment
yeah like everything you recap
we had actually heard it had not frozen
and the second you got
to the part where you had frozen, you were like, and then, and you froze up again,
so it cracked this up.
I still had no fucking clue what you've been saying, though.
Yet, so anyways, I got nothing.
I don't know.
It just froze, and I sat here for a while, waiting on y'all to come back or made a cut.
I asked, I thought you had some silly shit you want to talk about.
Oh, yeah, and I forgot.
I'm glad Drew does.
Well, what you said was he had gotten permission to do it, and I wanted to know who you got permission
from, because that's fair.
Trey, the benevolent dictator, Socrates's boy.
Oh.
Okay.
Well, I don't know.
Now I feel.
All right.
So should I go?
Yeah, I don't have it.
I forgot it.
We started talking about my copy,
and I read a very inappropriate boner ad.
I brought this up to you guys,
and we were like, should we talk about it?
Should we not?
And I ended up talking about it with DJ.
And I told you, if I did that, I'd report back to y'all.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And the lizard?
Lizards?
Yes.
And talking with DJ about it has made me even more confidence.
that we should talk about it.
Did DJ ask you about it?
No, I brought it up to him.
And it's now, it's going to be up on our Patreon.
Everyone listening right now.
If you want to hear DJ's perspective,
you're going to pay for it at least for the next month.
I might put it out for free later.
I'll tell you some of what he said,
but it's 20 minutes and it's straight fire.
Straight fire.
I told him the other day
to bring it up to you on your podcast this week.
So I'm glad that that ended up happening.
All right.
So everyone listening is like,
what the fuck are you?
talking about it. I'm going to tell you. We got a message. It was a very kind message. It was very kindly written. It wasn't an accusational tone. It was essentially just informing me that we often refer to rich people as lizard people. And they know this person who wrote it was like, I know you mean rich people. But that whole conspiracy theory started as a conspiracy theory to shit on Jews.
It is anti-Semitic in its origin.
The original person who started that conspiracy theory when he said lizard people, he meant Jews.
And so when you say lizard people, anyone who knows about that is going to think you either mean Jews or don't give a shit that someone used it that way.
That person's name, just to review for everyone listening and am for you guys.
His name is David von Ick or Icky.
I don't fucking know.
He's British.
He's a conspiracy theorist.
He's written many conspiracy books.
His main two things that he's known for is all types of Holocaust denial bullshit.
And popularizing, and that's important where it was the DJ,
popularizing the idea that an interdimensional race is reptilian beings called Archon's.
have hijacked earth and that they are essentially either part Jewish or that's what Jews
secretly are.
Essentially, the way we blame when we say rich people for all our problems, he does it
with Jews, which is shitty and typical to DJ.
The first thing I got from him was pushback that this particular man didn't have shit to do
with that theory.
He had another man he wanted to bring up.
I bet.
Oh, lizard buddy.
Yeah, lizard buddy.
One of my favorite lines,
I really don't want to get too much away
because DJ need y'all's money
so he'll sign up for the Patreon.
But, and I need it to.
He, uh,
one of my favorite lines was he said,
buddy,
I've been knee deep in this lizard mess
for a better part of two decades
and I've never even heard of this motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the truth, too.
What I can tell from Wikipedia is that this guy did absolutely popularize in the internet era, the quote-unquote lizard people theory.
It comes from people, though, who do similar in that.
And the first ones had nothing to do with the Jews.
It was just that aliens who live in underground bunkers take the form of humans, but they're actually blood and they control the earth.
and it didn't have shit to do with Jews.
That existent conspiracy theory,
and he made it about the Jews
because he's a fucking piece of shit.
But when he did that,
it went from,
mostly because of the timing of it,
because of the internet,
but his version of it
went from kind of an underground unknown thing
to everyone's talking about it.
But it went beyond him
to where Barack Obama
was supposed to be the king lizard person.
He's clearly not a Jewish person.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Famously called Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush lizard people,
neither of whom are Jewish, on Opie and Anthony.
And he started calling rich people exclusively.
And I'm not saying, you know, he's a pastor.
Well, if Louis did it, I mean, case closed, am I right?
All right. So here's where the question is.
Hey, would Cosby say about Dennis Kucinich?
Here's, that's, here's, okay,
Cosby is they, I'm glad you brought Cosby up.
Oh, wow.
Because it's a perfect example.
No, here's the question.
So first of all,
first of all,
feel free to disagree with me or poke holes in this.
This is where I fall on what happened.
It's like the story of Jesus,
Jesus Christ,
it's like the story of Jesus in that,
the story of Jesus ain't the first version of that story.
Right.
It's all based on the sun and Egyptians and yeah.
There's all kinds of versions of someone being born of a virgin,
and there's all kinds of versions of people who died and
came back to life three days later after defeating the devil or some version of the devil.
But that story is now the Jesus story.
Yeah.
There might be a few people on earth who think of Osiris or whatever the hell the Egyptian guy's name is.
I think of Maniccan Skywalker, but yeah.
But for the most part, we know that as the Jesus story.
Yeah, that's the template.
That, to me, cuts both ways on this one.
Because the guy who started it, his version of the lizard people conspiracy theory,
is what got popular.
But it went beyond him to a certain extent,
and much like God,
left the Jews behind.
So I don't know,
his version of it was anti-Semitic
and became the popular version of it.
So there's a part of it's like,
so that it's completely anti-Semitic.
But also his version itself evolved
to not be about Jews,
to be about rich people.
The reason I said that about Cosby,
that's how I feel about it, by the way,
the Jesus analogy. I don't know if you guys feel the same.
Sure.
The Cosby thing comes up because it's kind of been brought up.
Like, okay, Woody Allen is a predator,
but his movies aren't a predator.
Bill Cosby was a rapist,
but his comedy specials aren't a rapist.
And that's true.
David Ike is an anti-Semite.
But the story itself was anti-Semitic.
It's not like he just wrote Lord of the Rings.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's more like David Allen Coe in that way, sort of,
except David Allen Coe had both, obviously.
Yeah, David O'Coh had some absolute bangers.
He also had some, you know, an entire au revoir of horrifically racist.
Singers.
Like, it wasn't just like people saying, yeah, he was a racist,
but his stuff hit, you know, a lot of him.
stuff was also racist.
But I,
um,
so I do think it is a little different,
yeah,
than Cosby or whatever in that way.
But my thing with it was,
like I,
I said this when you first brought this up to us.
The first thing that pops into my head is just,
I've been hearing that,
not to parrot DJ,
I would never,
I would never presume to,
you know,
act like I know as much about this lizard mess as DJ does.
Of course I don't.
But I had a similar reality.
reaction to it, which is just, I've been hearing about this lizard shit for a long time.
We, we say it and reference it all the fucking time.
Yeah, I almost can't remember a time in my life when we,
when it wasn't just in our everyday thing.
Right.
So, so, so casually, we'll just, if rich people are talking about, we'll literally just
be like, yeah, the lizards, you know, I've said it in my own portraitant videos.
I've said it a million times.
And, like, my only point with that is,
98, 99% of the time,
no one is like, holy shit,
are you really out here with your anti-Semitic lizard people stuff?
Which says to me that 98 and 99% of internet dwelling liberals
who are absolutely the type, you know, to call you out on a thing.
98, 99% of them do not, do not perceive of it that way,
either, which furthermore, I think, means that it has since evolved beyond that that particular
connotation, in my opinion.
Yeah, I think it's just people clearly don't hear it that way.
No, I think it's just that it's been said so many goddamn times about people who weren't
Jewish and were just white and evil, that it just kind of, now that's the thing.
And you also got to think, there's no way that hits for that guy.
So it's not like, it's not like you're doing something that is in that guy's.
favorite. Yeah, he came up with a conspiracy theory that pop, I know, but it ain't, but it,
but it, but it ain't about the Jews anymore. That's got to upset him, you think, which means really,
we owe it to society. To call rich assholes lizards. I agree. Yeah. In a non-antasmetic way,
because that's the only way to, you know, to defeat it. Take it back. Take it back. See, I solved it,
take it back. Yeah. What I'm about to say. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here.
Yeah. We got this one. What I'm about to say, DJ,
deserves at least 80% of credit for.
I said it on the other podcast,
but only after listening to him,
it's really a humdinger of an episode.
But it's kind of a reverse
rebel flag or swastika.
That's not what it means to us anymore.
Swastika didn't mean anything hateful,
and then the Nazis perverted it.
And now,
even if you
what, come from a Native American tribe
who used to use that in their stuff,
you have to know that if you put it on,
somebody's going to think it means Nazi.
And it's going to make people feel shitty.
Yeah.
So this is the sort of the opposite of that
or maybe it started out like that,
but maybe very few people feel that way now.
But here's the question.
I was about saying, it's also the opposite of that.
Nobody, though.
Right.
Like, what if, and, you know, we never heard,
no, like, we have only heard from two people.
The first person who said it sent us a message and said,
that's anti-Semitic.
And I said, what do you mean?
And then they blocked me or what, like, you know what I'm saying?
I was like, well, that person was trolling me.
Fuck that person.
And that was a year or two ago.
Then only one other person did it.
But maybe that's because we lost all of our potential Jewish fans
because soon as they heard us on the listener people.
That's what I was going to say.
And I don't know.
And I feel guilty friends.
And yes, I have Jewish.
Jewish friends, but I got a question.
You know what I mean?
But I really don't hear you saying that.
And Jewish hurts them.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, but okay.
So here's to illustrate the point I was making, like, for example,
on a recent thing I posted on my Facebook page,
I referred to a politician running for office as the,
and I'm probably about to get this wrong right now,
because that's how much of a non-issue it was and remains to me.
But I referred to this person as the either I said Democratic candidate
or I said Democrat and whichever one I said,
I got this one particular fan of mine went bananas on me
for not saying that word the right way.
I think I said Democratic candidate and I got ripped apart by one person who's like,
it's not Democratic, it's Democrat candidate, and here's why.
And like three paragraphs of why that was wrong for me to have done that.
I can't believe one of your fans did that to you.
And the whole time, I was like, what the fuck is the, and anyway, so my point is, because
I'd be using this lizard shit, we all do, but I do too individually and as a group.
I know for a fact, I've called Marsha Blackburn and Lizard recently.
like I'd be calling people lizards in my videos and I'm not I'm not getting this particular brand to push back from that and I know I wouldn't be.
Yeah, you would.
You sure would.
If it was an actual like widespread thing, people would be coming after me.
But what I'm saying is for better or for worse, well, that's not the right way to say that.
What I'm saying is, and you don't have to feel this way, but this is very much how I feel about it.
if there are Jewish people who like hear that and kind of tints up because they know this.
I mean, this guy is a Holocaust denier writer.
That's a very serious movement inside the white supremacy movement.
It is a threat to their lives.
Corey froze like this.
And it was so funny.
It does.
It's a true threat to their lives.
You know, if hearing us or anyone say it makes them think of those things,
I have no interest in saying it anymore.
but if they didn't even know like if this dude's such a fucking loser
even jews who are obviously alert to anti-semitic shit
didn't hear a david it it ain't just DJ who hadn't heard of him
they ain't either then fuck it like yeah and the thing is is like to me it's not just like
oh well maybe we just don't have a lot of Jewish fans the number one thing that
white liberals like to do is be offended on behalf of other groups
so like you would think that they would have in their pamphlet like okay so you can't
say lizard and you can't say gyps and you can't say but i'm i'm trying to express not just for like
comedian points sincerely i don't give a fuck about those people or those pamphlets well me me but i
i was trying to do it for comedic purposes but i also don't give a fuck but i do give a fuck
if it makes jewish people feel uncomfortable me too because there's a legitimate threat
to them and their people that's been constant for fucking this is on this this episode's on
YouTube, Jews, sound off in the comments.
Does Lizard hit or don't hit?
I'm not going to pretend like that's not what I'm getting at here.
I don't want to put my friends.
I don't want to call my buddy arena and be like, Jew question.
But like if you're a fan, let us know.
No, I am.
Dude, man, I'm just going to stream on it here.
Just let us know.
Because that's the thing, man.
Like, that's all we can do.
If you all come in here and say, if y'all come in here and say, don't hit,
then we'll make up a new thing to call those fucking pieces.
It's going to be hilarious when I go back and look at the person who alerted me to this.
And their fucking last name is like fucking Bernstein.
And they're like, no, no, I was telling you that I would like you to stop doing that.
And I was being kind.
And you're an asshole.
That guy's listening to the whole time.
Like, I said that.
I did that.
And again, I want to be clear that the person who did alert me this time, super kind about it,
wasn't like there was no me in it.
You know what I mean?
It was like, it was like.
and it was like, hey man, I don't think y'all know this because y'all ruled and you wouldn't do this if you knew this.
That's anti-Semitic.
But I was like, God damn, really?
And he was like, yeah, look at this guy.
That was the perfect onomatopoeia for liberals.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I used to be part of a joke idea.
Yeah.
I knew that I knew that.
You don't you.
Did I realize?
Why?
You were doing?
Yeah, you thought I would, I just thought you're being anti-Semitic.
No, no.
No. As far as I, the whole podcast doing it.
Afrez again.
But if people say that that's what's something meant forever and always, you know, evil rich people who were 19 times out of 20 white.
Yes, 100%.
I didn't know anything about this until you brought.
this information from that guy to us like a week ago.
And I never in a million years had any idea that Jews were associated with that lizard
mess at all in any capacity.
So that's never been my intent.
And the thing I was excited to tell you guys is DJ's assessment is they're not taking
this from me.
Of course not.
They being the racist.
He's like racist.
Racists have taken enough from me because I don't know if you guys know this.
DJ loves the rebel flag.
and genuinely, you guys know how sweet he is,
if you listen to him on the puck,
it's genuinely thought that as long as he didn't mean anything hateful,
it was okay,
came to realize and understand that it scared black people, frankly,
because of racist.
And he blamed the racist for that,
which is what you're supposed to do.
Fair, yeah.
And what he is saying is,
I'm not letting them take another one from you guys.
It's my heritage.
Lizard people, DJ won't take lizard people down.
DJ has had to give away too many.
any of his old knives and belt buckles.
He's got to keep the fucking lizard shit.
He's got to keep his folder.
Yeah, yeah.
His portfolio is manifesto.
Oh, God.
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