wellRED podcast - #174 - Buddy Cop Movies Hit Different Now

Episode Date: June 24, 2020

The boys talk about video games, White Claws, The Corona Virus, and how movies about the police (and president) seem kinda different in 2020 wellredcomedy.com...

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Starting point is 00:05:11 Hopefully this is the only time that we will have to deal with this shit. Good Lord. I hope you guys enjoyed this podcast. And like I said, share, download, all that good stuff. And we love you. It's cute. They rule it next day like corn bread, but sex they care way too much, but don't give a fuck. Next that makes some people upset, but they got three big old dicks that you can suck.
Starting point is 00:05:46 On my Sega Dreamcast, and it worked fine most of the time. Yeah. It was awesome, too. But that console had a lot of good shit besides just that, but it was very ahead of its time and don't get to respect it, I just, yeah, man, I just don't see how it didn't go because it was just, yeah, like it was so good. And it also like, hell, it introduced us to the 2K franchise, which is, you know, still going strong. And it just really hit for me.
Starting point is 00:06:14 But no, I maintain that 64 is just across the board best system ever created, which is, I mean, purely because I'm the exact age that it was, I think, I'm fairly certain, like, I mean, it was like the first one that weren't just shit going this way. You know what I mean? Yeah, 2D. It wasn't 2D. Yes, that's yes, yes. Shit going this way.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Shit going this way. Yeah. Cross your face. Side to side, cross your face shit. Yeah, which hits. Hold on. Didn't Nintendo 64 and PlayStation come out at like the same time? Yeah, it was the first one that I got that it was like that.
Starting point is 00:06:53 It was the first time that I saw Mario in a different way. That's really what it was, is that Mario, with such a huge video game character. And I was so used to just like, him going this way. Him going this way. And not ever going that way. And then he could go that way.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And turns out going that way, that's what it is. Going that way is the deal. We do like to go that way. Yeah. So, yeah, I got it set up down here. I'm about to start playing some fucking rogue squadron pre-pumped. No, I'm impressed that it still works is why I had. Because, like, I still have my old Sega and Super Nintendo in my house
Starting point is 00:07:28 and Salina and actually not that long ago I dug them out periodically over the years I'll dig up I mean I started my regular Nintendo put up in a closet somewhere but none of them none of them really work anymore every time I'm pulling out and plug them up I can like coax about an hour out of them
Starting point is 00:07:44 maybe but that's about it I've dug it out last time to show my boys when they were probably like four and five and I could barely get it to work but also they could not have given less of a fuck about it you know like right like when you you know
Starting point is 00:07:58 not to get all. These kids don't know how good they got it, but they don't. But like, when you, from the very beginning in your video game playing, shit can go this way.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't know. You don't know. You don't know. You don't know. And everything looks like
Starting point is 00:08:14 a goddamn Pixar movie. And you can play it on your little tablet that you have at the age of three or whatever. Like, you can't really get into Donkey Kong country. You know. No, I get it.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I mean, I get it too, but I'm speaking of the opposite of... Go ahead. No, I hear you, but like, I feel like it's easier for someone to respect classic movies and classic shows than it is for them to get into games just because of, like, they just ain't got no room for nostalgia that they weren't fucking a part of.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Whereas, like, I have a lot of room for nostalgia that I wasn't a part of in terms of like, as we was talking the other day, I watched the movie Chinatown. And, like, that movie's old. And, like, dude, movies are better now. They just are. Like, movies are better now. But it's still fucking rad, and I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But, like, I ain't trying to play techno bowl. You know what I'm saying? I'm not trying to do it. I mean, movies have been around a long time. Maybe people will get there. Yeah, probably. I mean, probably a lot of people just already are. I'm just different, I guess.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Speaking of how movies age, I actually had a thing I wanted to bring up today. I mentioned this on a text. text to y'all already, but I rewatched 21 Jump Street the other night. I haven't rewatched 22 Jump Street yet, but I fucking love those movies. I think that
Starting point is 00:09:37 you know, everybody knows now that Lord and Miller are the shit, but people didn't really know it at the time, but it's sort of like what they, they're like the kings of making something better than it had any right to be because they also did the Lego movie, you know. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah. I don't know. I remember when, because I've always kept up with like show business news and announcements and stuff. In 2012, when 21 Jump Street came out, there had been a rash of, and this has never really stopped, but we were
Starting point is 00:10:09 in the middle of a heavy period of like, ill-advised, shitty-ass reboots of things like Robocop and Total Recall and stuff like that. I don't know if those fit the exact time. Judge Dread. They were somewhere. They were somewhere around there.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Carl Urban's Judge Dred movie. hits harder than the first one. But anyway. I haven't seen it. It kind of rules. Really? I mean, I love Carl Urban and, I mean, yeah. Hell, I like the first Judge Dredd as a kid, though. Searcy is, Lena, Lena Heady is, she's the villain in it. And it's, uh, Carl Urban plays Judge Dred and it hits real hard.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Anyway, there'd been a lot of reboots that did not have people around this time. And then they announced they were rebooting 21 Jump Street, which was like some silly high school, bullshit to begin with that people only ever cared about because it was Johnny Depp's first big thing. And everybody at the time, including me, was like, this, what the fuck are they doing? This is the dumbest fucking idea. This is not going to hit. There's no way this is going to hit. And movie hits really hard.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It's fucking hilarious. I just rewatched it. And the humor holds up. It's still very, very funny. But one thing I did notice, though, was, especially at the beginning, when Chan Tannington and Jonah Hill first become cops. A lot of the, a lot of the humor and the jokes is based around.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Cops being like a daisical and shit. Them being like dumbass bro cops who, who don't take the job seriously and are like goofy about it. Like they literally, they literally like pin a black dude down for having weed and start like dipping their ball sack in his face and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, fuck you motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:11:57 shit like that. They, like, are firing their guns in the air. Yeah, a lot of despops. Like, throwing their guns to each other. Yeah, despops and the other guys. That's the, and anyway, I was watching it. It was like, I understand all the context of this. I know it's just supposed to be goofy and funny, and it is still funny.
Starting point is 00:12:16 But all of that type of shit just sort of hits a little different now. It does. It does. And I was just thinking about, like, you know, buddy cop movies or comedies or whatever. it's like, I just wonder what the future holds for those. When I brought this up in the text message, our buddy Mark, Smart Mark, was like, well, you think that's bad?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Watch the Bad Boys franchise again and see, like, they have like $500 million worth of property damage and one high-speed chase just to shake down one drug dealer or whatever. And I was like, sure. But I think it's very, very different because it's not played for laughs in those movies. Like that's an over the, you know what movies also do that? the fucking Marvel movies do that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 They try to address it a little bit, but they just hand wave it away, basically, for the most part. Yeah, I was what, I mean, hell, you speak up in the Marvel movies, like, I kind of look at even that differently now, just because I was watching Age of Ultron the other night, we're on our, we're on our Marvel rewatch, you know, like a lot of people have been doing, and that's just where we're at. And obviously, this is like a kind of a huge tent pole
Starting point is 00:13:23 within the franchise for the story going forward. like the whole thing with Sukovia and everything ends up being like the breaking point that causes civil war and makes Cap and them take one side over the other. But like while I'm watching it now, I'm like, God damn. Like, yeah, it's weird. Like at the time, like, they're just destroying this whole fucking city. And it's like for what? Like to save nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Like nobody gave a shit. And at the time when I was watching it at first, I was just like, yeah, fuck them up. Cap get it. Right. You know, but now looking just through this lens, it's like, I don't know, man. maybe we should defund the fucking Avengers and get some civil servants. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And to their credit, they had a whole storyline about that very concept, pretty much. Which led to a civil war. But still, I still think that type of thing is different because that type of shit is in all fantasy. Over the top, big budget action movies where it's like, basically they're like,
Starting point is 00:14:18 well, explosions and shit is cool. We're trying to make a really cool movie. Like, people are going to just have, to sort of pretend like, you know, we're not blowing entire neighborhoods up and like there's not absolutely collateral damage. But it's like everybody's just sort of implicitly agreeing to just mostly let that shit slide or whatever, which is different from like it being, it being played for humor. Like it's supposed to be funny.
Starting point is 00:14:47 It's explicitly done to be funny in 2012. I mean, I don't remember thinking any of that shit when I watched it. and it's not like cops were any different then, but I just left at it then, but watching it now, it's like, man, it's funny,
Starting point is 00:15:01 but also like, this is all kind of fucked up, you know, like it's not like a cop being that laissez-faire about shooting his gun over a weed arrest or whatever. It's just like, it just ain't, it ain't as funny as it used to be.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I guess it's awesome. I think it might have been, maybe Drew that brought this up at one point, but this is very similar to, we hadn't talked about it on here just in person, but like, somebody had tweeted, one time about how this presidential administration has ruined movies like Air Force One and
Starting point is 00:15:30 shit. Right. Because like if you were to show, if you were to pitch me a movie right now that was like, the president is held hostage. And I'd be like, stop there. Kill that motherfucker. Who gives a shit? Well, we were,
Starting point is 00:15:40 we were just talking on a very recent episode, I brought up Bill Pullman and Independence Day. Yeah, yeah. And we were talking about that whole thing and how, yeah, how you couldn't, having the American president as a character in a movie like that. today is very, very different because no one on planet Earth looks at that office the way that they used to anymore. And I think it's going to take a couple administrations. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And I mean, they're going to have to be like, you know, five steps forward. You know what I'm saying? Like we're going to have two really good administrations before we can go, okay, the respect of the office has been restored. It probably won't ever happen, honestly. It's probably just over forever. Drew, can I tell you something? Did you get cut?
Starting point is 00:16:25 Did you get like fucking, did you work out in the woods? No, but I got tan. Oh, oh, right, that makes you look a little bit more defined,
Starting point is 00:16:32 I guess. You're looking fucking good, boy. Thanks, man. Yeah, and like, and I'm saying that compared to me.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Well, yeah, I can only see you from the good part of you up. Because, like, I had ramen noodle for breakfast. That's not,
Starting point is 00:16:46 I went out to get donuts, and I got a donut and a carrot cake and a burrito. Yeah. how you feel? Like you would expect. Like I ate a donut and a carrot cake in the Rio. Honestly, the carrot cake was offensively bad.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Trey, you got it in my head to get donuts because you, for Father's Day, you went to Dad's Donuts, right? Well, Dad's Donuts came to me, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I waited around all night and they ended up smoking weed. I haven't been smoking much at all anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I smoked weed and wanted a donut and you've been talking about it. And I went to this place, fantastic donuts that was supposed to be open until nine. And I mean, it says open to 10 and then it says coronavirus changed our hours to nine. But it was just closed. At one hour? It was like eight and it was closed. Like it just, I don't know. Anyway, so I went to Yum Yums, which I knew was like, you know, it's not great.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And the donut was fine, but I also got a carrot cake there. And I think, like, it was in an individually wrapped with, like, wax paper situation. But, like, I mean, it tasted like an off-brand little Debbie carrot cake. I didn't know. Like, it was plasticy and it was strange. I threw it away. It slammed it, like, with emotion. I threw it away with my chest.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But I got a burrito on the way home, too, because I realized the reason I was wanting to donut is I'd only had suit for dinner. And so I finished my burrito. I ate the donut. I ate half the burrito and started to eat the carrot cake. And he ate most of the donut. I ate half the burrito, half the donut, started to eat the carrot cake and it sucks. And then I just ate the rest of the burrito.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You normally, you're normally not a trash guy like me and Trey, like as far as food. Like you've famously said, famously to our podcast, you famously said you don't eat a lot of trash, but the trash that you do eat, you eat a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I texted that to you, Trey and Mark, four days ago. Which I consider famous. Yes. that's famous. That's in my world, you famously, you famously said that. I guess what I'm about to.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And also that bull-pulman thing, Tray, you did say it on the podcast, referencing me, you and Mark, talking about it in our yards. Look, man, shit's wild out there. We don't know what we've said, when we've said it. We've just said a lot of stuff. I want to ask, are you- Well, Tray did say it on the podcast. It's just funny that it was a conversation with the same guy that you're talking
Starting point is 00:19:15 about this conversation. The point you're making, though. Well, I'm trying to ask, are you just a little famish from being in the woods for five goddamn days because this type of trash is normally not the trash that you be eating like you've just been eating nothing but like fire cooked eggs for five days i was drinking beer every day when i got back i decided as not drink beer and my body just wants to shit yeah i was i was about say that ain't that's the fucking war yeah i'd i drink like four or five beers every day while i was there and it was nice yeah i bet you have fun i got some cores heavies one day
Starting point is 00:19:47 uh we got fucking white claws one day what the fuck is this bullshit. I thought the whole point of that was it was like, you know, 30 calories or whatever. Yeah, no, it's like, no, it's still 90. It's a hundred. Some of, some of them are 100, the ones I drank are 90. Are you serious? Yeah, there's, it's like, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:20:04 I've never, I've never fucked with them. I thought, I thought what you thought, this is blown my mind. I thought they were just like La Croy's. Like a soda. Yeah, right. Yeah. No, I mean, realistically, the whole point, like, that I can gather is like, I mean, they just, some people don't like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 drink that because that's the thing be because how much is they are dude I'll tell you this man like if you Mick Ultra is like 90-100 it's the same it's literally the same now I'll say this I would rather have a white call than a Mick Ultra and it has more it depends on the flavor dude we had
Starting point is 00:20:39 that's the worst shit they got it's like it's all fake you know what I said somebody said they didn't perfect that I like the tangerine when somebody said online that um a white claw sounds like you're drinking TV static while someone screams the name of a fruit from the other room, which is a lot to take in, but it's pretty accurate. It does have more alcohol, though, than like a Mick Ultra, whereas a Mick Ultra is like 3.2 and it's 80, 90 calories.
Starting point is 00:21:09 This is 5% and it's that many calories. Okay. That argument definitely has to come into play. Okay, but the Miller Lodge are like 4.2 and they're 95 calories. Yeah, no, I know. I'm not, buddy, I'm not, I'm literally just playing devil's advocate just to be doing it. Like, it is more alcohol. But like, other than that, I think, maybe there's less carbs, maybe. Although, it's like, it's true carbs, I think. My mind, because I've never fucked with them. I'm just aware of them. And I absolutely thought the whole point of them was like, well, you know, what Drew said.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I had no idea they had as many calories as a light beer does. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of, but like I said, you do get drunk quicker. If you have a shot ish of just vodka, the alcohol itself is going to be about 40, I think, calories or 50. But I just thought, and that's it. And then there might be five more from the fruit juice or whatever. No, man, like I said, like, if you say it's a hell thing, it's just you don't want to drink beer. Like you're a girl and you don't want to drink beer. And like that, dude, I had a couple the other day because by the pool, they are, they're more refreshing sometimes than a beer.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And my whole thing on them is. honestly the reason I brought it up is because I just don't feel that way. I drink three of them on the river and felt like dog shit. Oh, I'm still not going to hit, but the, but my thing on it is like, you know how like I feel like those, like when you're drinking outside, you're always going to run in the chance that like your drink is going to get warm quicker than normal. A kind of warm white claw is not near as bad as a kind of warm bud light or cordial light. That's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:22:45 You'll disagree. I know, you're a dog, though. I guess I keep thinking about that fucking lime one that I literally couldn't finish. I don't like lime. Mango's my favorite one. Black Cherry is my favorite one. Yeah, it's the best. It checks out that shows a bit of a white claw kind of sewer.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's never come up before. We never even talked about it, but it's the most natural thing in the world. You have a ranking of all the flavors you can talk in detail about the nutritional value, the idea behind it. You know why. Philosophy. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:21 why I live with. Yeah, right. Like, I've never once purchased white claws for myself. I bought them for her and had some. But, like, you know, sometimes they'll just be at the house.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And I mean, fuck yeah, dog, you know me. I'm trash. I'll drink whatever the fuck. But yeah, but there is a hierarchy. I could rank them flavor-wise for sure.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And lime is amongst the worst. Mango is my least favorite. Dall freeze. No, no, no. I'm just checking right here. I might be wrong. Actually, vodka might have like 80 calories in it. So, I mean, look, man, if you're going to drink, you're going to get fat.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Alcohol itself, it's impossible for it not, like, it just alcohol will be having that many calories in it. You know what I'm saying? Okay. I mean, I knew a vodka soda, I think, is between like 80 and 100 calories. I thought it was 40 for something. Depending on the poor you get or whatever. But is this just wrong? Is this just in my head?
Starting point is 00:24:14 I feel like still a vodka sodas and white claws are not one to one they cannot be. No, sure not. I guarantee you I'd have to, and I'm talking about it in terms of the effect they have. Like, surely I'd have to drink more than six white claws, I would think. And if I have six vodka sodas, I'm going to be like at least a little bit drunk, you know. Yeah, yeah. You drink doubles. Six white claws, you'll feel good.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I mean, 100%. We're trying to do drunk mass. which is only inferior to pill math in terms of why trash is. And the thing is, bring till you get drunk. In both of those cases, I have to be on the thing in order to be good at the math part of it. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:57 If I'm on pills, buddy, I know exactly this minute, this milligram to this milligram to blah, blah, blah, to blah, but when I'm sober,
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm like, I don't remember that. I ain't fucked up. I just think if I had two vodka sodas before a show, that would be about right. right, as far as I'm concerned. I'll be like, yeah, this is what's up. But if I had two white calls,
Starting point is 00:25:20 if I had two white calls, I don't think I feel a goddamn thing. Yeah, I think what Drew's saying is correct. If you got a regular pour from a regular motherfucker, it might be the same. Uh-huh. Yeah, the waitress is like, Trey needs a vodka soda.
Starting point is 00:25:35 The bartender's hooking you up. Yeah, but see, Drew, if I order a regular one and they pour it, at double or triple, I don't ingest those calories because it's not what I ordered. Yeah, that's also true. Yeah, your wife told you that by eating off your plate. Well, since you just brought up ordering drinks at comedy clubs, I kind of do feel like we need to at least bring up or mention for a second what happened
Starting point is 00:26:04 this past weekend at our, essentially our home club, Zanis in Nashville, which kind of frightened me. And for those of you out there that don't know what I'm talking about, Dio Hugley was doing a show and I think he was about maybe 30 seconds into his show and he's sitting on his stool and he goes into a joke and all the time joke
Starting point is 00:26:26 and he kind of starts staring and all of a sudden somebody runs up on stage and Dio just passed mode the fuck out falls off his stool hits his head they end the show after about 30 seconds this is in a packed room where nobody is really wearing face masks
Starting point is 00:26:40 and it turns out later that Dio Hego has coronavirus So I guess what I wanted to ask you guys, we've talked about this before on the podcast with Royward Jr. about what it's going to be like when we come back. When are we actually going to be able to come back? You guys have, because I immediately had this fear. Do you think that that just set us back like four or five goddamn months?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah. I mean, like, at least, right? I don't know how it couldn't. And the other thing is like, of course that happened. And I need to restrain myself from getting too fired up about it because, like, I love Zanis and I love the people in charge of Zanis. And I love everybody that works at Zanis. and I don't blame them.
Starting point is 00:27:13 They're just trying to. Me either. They're just trying to make a buck, dude. I ain't out of him. Just trying to keep their business open, whatever, make people laugh and all that, and I get it. But it's like, still though, this is, like, of course something like this happens.
Starting point is 00:27:24 You know what I mean? Like, because you can't just, it's what all, it's not just comedy clubs, it's what all of society seems to be doing right now, which is just, like, sort of like, we're all just, we did that. We did that. We're all just going to act like,
Starting point is 00:27:37 yeah. It's fine and it's over and we can do whatever. But, like, nothing. has fucking changed. Nothing has changed from March. So like you just can't, you can't just reopen live shows with a bunch of people in a room together
Starting point is 00:27:52 and whatever else and not have them wear masks or any of that stuff. And expect something like this to not happen. Like, of course something like this happened. And yes, I think it absolutely will set us back. Because, I mean, how could it not? I mean, that's what I kept saying, man. Like I kept saying to my mom and some of my friends,
Starting point is 00:28:10 I was like, dude, I totally. agree when you say, look, man, there eventually would come to a point where it's like, look, we can't all just stay in our houses forever, and we all have to go back to work, and some people are going to lose their job. And I was like, buddy, I hear you. I was like, but I think that, this is like a week after,
Starting point is 00:28:27 people have been inside for a week, and they were like, we got to fucking do something. And I was like, I hear you on that front. I really do, but I have this big fear that what we're going to do is, we're going to try to open back too early. Then the second way it's going to hit, then we're going to have to close back up again, and it's going to be worse than it would have been
Starting point is 00:28:43 if we'd have just waited fucking just a little bit longer and, you know, hedged our bets a little bit and nobody was trying to hear it and here we fucking are. And I said, you know, if that had happened at fucking Chick-fil-A, somebody passed out behind a counter, it would be one thing.
Starting point is 00:28:56 But this specifically happened at a comedy club. And I can't imagine anybody that would, I mean, I wouldn't want to go see shit right now. Would you go to fucking show? That's the other thing, too, like that whole argument is like, dude, people have to work. People have bills.
Starting point is 00:29:11 it's easy for you to say, hey, we need to stay in home. You don't, you know, you're not, like, struggling to put food in your family's mouth and are kept in that position by the lockdown. That's all true, and I get that. But, like, we're talking about a comedian on stage
Starting point is 00:29:26 of the comedy show. Like, I'm a comedian, and I'm sorry. I have trouble making any kind of argument to justify why comedy shows specifically need to be on the list of things that we can somehow do, again. There's plenty of things we can do with precautions and stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I don't know how you make the argument that comedy, that live comedy shows or live music or any of that. The thing is, it should be one of them. I mean, obviously, this is just one person saying this at Tanciddle, but like, it does affect my fucking livelihood. And I'm still sitting here telling you, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Like, it's not like, it's not like, well red does so well that I'm just going to be able to sit on my ass until the middle of 2021 and go, well, we're good. That, you know, the book's getting published in Mexico now. We'll be fine. Like, but just clearly, man, I mean, think about all those fucking people in that room that just like, they,
Starting point is 00:30:22 somebody going to get it. Yeah, you'd think. I know. If I found out, if I, I mean, we've already rescheduled some of our shows for later in the summer, much later. But the way America's acting, I can't imagine things will be much better than. If they're still on the books, if nothing has changed legally or whatnot, I mean, I'll be there. I'll show up and we'll... I will too.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I don't expect anybody to go. But like, well, that's part of it. A, I don't, like, that's the things like, we can say they're back up. But people have been going, man, because a whole lot of people don't give a fuck. But with our fan base, I feel like... We have smart fans, I'll say it. Yeah, right. Yeah, so I think that might
Starting point is 00:30:58 be a different story. But the other thing is, like, if I somehow found out, even though the person made the choice and bought the ticket and whatever else, but if I somehow found out like a month later, that somebody came to one of the shows we had and like that's where they got it and they are dead now.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I'm going to feel pretty goddamn bad about that. I would literally never forgive myself. Even though they, like I said, yes, personal responsibility, they didn't have to come. They bought the ticket, this hypothetical person and this hypothetical scenario. But I'm still,
Starting point is 00:31:30 I'm just saying like, again, every, not everybody, there were always the idiots, but most reasonable people were talking about it in these terms in March when everything started.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And again, very little has actually changed. But it seems like most people that are sort of general consensus is like, well, we did that. And now we're not anymore. Right. Like there's not even a vaccine. But we didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:31:58 That's the thing. That's a big part of why it ain't, you know, taken or whatever. It ain't working. It don't hit. No, coronavirus, don't hit. No, corona. Yeah, that's the, the,
Starting point is 00:32:11 Follow up to Hitler Don't Hit, 9-11 Don't Hit. The, yes, the Cory Forster trilogy. Yeah. I don't know, man. It's just got me really. It's just, it's a whole thing about, we were talking. When all this first started going on and I was literally, I'd locked myself in my fucking attic. I wasn't even going to the store.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I wasn't doing shit. Like, I was eating every can thing. We had at the house, I didn't have to leave. So that possibly after an incubation period, I could maybe go see my parents. And then like just, you know, one of my old buddies, I'm not buddies with them anymore. is why I said, oh, buddy, just showed up to my house and then negated all the work that I'd done. That's what this fucking feels like. It feels like we've been off the road and we've, and like a lot of people have been trying
Starting point is 00:32:54 and then now this and it's like, all right, cool, let's just add, let's just tax six months back on your fucking sentence. It also, it adds like sort of, I don't know how to put this in the way that I want to, but it's like, if this is how we're going to just start acting now and from here on out and everything, then it does kind of, even. even though it still made a difference at the time and whatever else. But like, it just,
Starting point is 00:33:18 it negates so much effort we already had. Like, if we were going to, like, get to this point and then just start acting like this, then maybe we should have never even fucking done any of that other shit to begin with. We shouldn't, if we weren't,
Starting point is 00:33:28 they'd already be dead now and we'd already be grieving. It'd be fine. Like, if we were never going to see the shit through in the first place, yeah, fucking, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:37 but we had to try. No, I know, but, yeah, I mean, obviously, but I'm,
Starting point is 00:33:42 I don't, We wasted the good work we've done. That's what I'm trying to say. This bullshit now, like I said, negates all the good faith efforts at the beginning, and that's part of what makes it so shit. It reminds me of Isbel confessing that he drank that shot of Listerine recently, and he called Amanda who was in the barn. I'm talking about Jason Isbell, as if I know him personally.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Sorry, everybody. Jason Isle recovered. He's a recovered alcoholic. He still uses Listerine because he's stubborn. I mean, she admitted it. He's like, you know, a lot of alcoholics won't use it because it's tempting. You put a bunch of alcohol on your mouth. He swallowed it.
Starting point is 00:34:19 He said he didn't think about it, but it was on purpose. Anyway, he called Amanda and she goes, well, if you're going to fucking do it, let's go get something expensive and let's do it. And it's like, there's a temptation or whatever, Trey. Like, I know your logic of like, well, if it ain't going to work, fuck it. Let's party. Let's have a big ass weekend. I'll make a bunch of money and do kind of. comedy, that'll hit.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You know what I mean? Let's all catch it. Fuck it. But we did still have to try. Yeah, I guess I'm just afraid now of like the second wave and we try to shut down because now we know exactly how people are going to react. Right. Like I've seen it once.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Like when they start going for the shutdown shit, like I'm at the house. Like I'm still trying to be at the house. But like I've lost so much goddamn hope. We're talking about society just pretending that COVID's over and reopening another one that's just like, like we said earlier about D.L. Hughley, of course this happened. Of course something like that happened. You had to know something like that was going to happen. Maybe not this quickly, but you knew something like that was going to happen. I keep thinking the same thing about, you know who else is very much doing that is the NFL right now. Like the NFL
Starting point is 00:35:30 and the NFL and the NFL is very much like just pulling the wool over their own eyes and just talking about what Tom Brady's going to do with the bucks this season and all this stuff. And like, don't get me wrong. The NFL, a massive. multi-billion-dollar franchise and B, don't give a fuck about nobody or nothing. Never have. Never will. No. So, like, they are going to play, like, at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Like, I fully believe that, too. But I'm saying they already, there's already been, they're still, they're not allowed to gather as a team yet physically together. So what has happened a couple of times is like a couple of quarterbacks have called a bunch of his receivers and they've all gotten together off the book. at like, you know, some facility wherever. One of them was in Nashville. I can't remember who it was in Nashville,
Starting point is 00:36:18 but there's a group of guys, not Titans, another team, some players from Nashville, and they were all in Nashville together working out and stuff. And a few different groups of players have done this. And in multiple instances, those little practice sessions have resulted in COVID outbreaks among the players. Now, these are all young guys. They're all young guys.
Starting point is 00:36:38 They're, you know, genetic freaks, and they're all, like, as healthy as you. human being could possibly be. They're fine, but they get tested a lot and it, they got COVID. They're just asymptomatic. But it's happened already and to the point that the NFL players union, the NFL PA put out a thing like formally requesting that all of its members, so all NFL players, they no longer do that. They no longer gather together to work out together like that because of COVID, but it's put like it doesn't address. What how is, it's not safe to do that, but train in camp's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Right. But also it's like all these players, yes, they're young, they're in their prime, they're probably going to be fine. But dude, fucking, what happens when Andy Reid dies? Don't hit. In October from, you know, coronavirus. Like, a lot of the coaches are old and fat. Why don't you say that?
Starting point is 00:37:31 Why don't choose Andy Reed? Because he's the fattest one. I love Andy Reed, but he's like your best and the fastest. It's not. It's not. Well, that's actually the choice. He's the fattest one. it's why it's the choice too is also like going to be there everybody's
Starting point is 00:37:47 and everybody loves him and everybody loves him i'm saying it's going to be their fucking excuses just like when diffi died of corona everybody was like well i'm going to god damn how much longer was joe diffi going to live anyways all he did was drink beer every day and eat cheeseburgers blah blah blah with Andy re dude if he dies of corona it's going to be the stubby like oh shit he got corona and it gave him a heart attack that's what the fuck happened that fat fucks had it coming ever since blah blah blah well it don't hit it's either way i just like it's just like with the comedy the live comedy thing it's like
Starting point is 00:38:14 you can fucking plug your ears and everything is out it's gonna be fine but you know at three four weeks into the process you've already got a pretty big comedy star a comedy legend really fucking collapsing on stage do exactly to this problem
Starting point is 00:38:31 and it's like what the fuck how is that gonna it's just like production legally production can start back up on all Hollywood shit but they have yet and the reason why is because there's unions out here that are like we're doing that what are we going to that you know just because they say we can do it doesn't mean we figured it out because again if they fire it back up what happens in two weeks in two months when robert de nero dies of this
Starting point is 00:38:55 shit you know what i mean like this town isn't going to care about that they are like yeah i mean they do are i just don't i just don't know what people are thinking really as far as i mean i know what they're thinking. We've got to make some money or everything is over. And circling, well, circling back, circling back, that's why I, and this isn't just trying to defend my very, very good friends who I kind of consider family, especially in the comedy world, our friends at Zanis. This is why I don't fucking blame them. I blame people like Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia, and I blame all the people saying higher-ups saying this is okay, because when they do that and everybody else opens up,
Starting point is 00:39:38 then everyone starts feeling the pressure of like, well, okay, if we're doing it, we're doing it, we really want to help the people out and we've got people with jobs. It ain't their fucking fault. It's the goddamn, it's the politicians that don't give a fuck if people die. And they don't give a shit if Dio Hewley passes out on a stage at Zane. They're going to, dude, they're about to come out and announce that it was completely something different that will happen to him.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Like, there's some lie brewing right now, not from Zanis, from some fucking, I don't know what. to call them people. People that are really, really rich. Vampires. Me and DJ, me and DJ came up with it. They're vampires. Okay. Vampires, they won't look in the mirror because they can't stand to see themselves for who they really are. They won't come in your house unless you invite them. And then they suck the
Starting point is 00:40:21 fucking blood from your life. But vampires hit for me. I was just going to suggest. Rich people hit for you too. That's true. I'm with it. I was just going to suggest iguanas. Mine's way less creative than y'all's is. You put way more thought into it. DJ did all that. Really? Yeah, right. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:40:38 What was it that he fucking said? I want to tell this to the world because I feel like I share his text sometimes. Well, on Twitter and people are like, God damn, I'd pay a million dollars to have DJ Lewis's phone number. What the fuck do he say? Without context, I'm just going to tell you all the text I got from DJ. And on one hand, I guess it's good Biden getting elected, but they're going to want to go to war with aliens, and I ain't with that.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. You heard it here first, folks. DJ Lewis, not a fan of going to war with aliens. Well, he was talking about a documentary that he talked about, I put a little bit of it up on the podcast into the abisket, and I put a little bit of it up on a Patreon, because he does a thing on our Patreon called Space News. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And he watched this documentary called Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, and buddy, he's got some thoughts. Can I ask you this? Why did we skip the fourth? I believe we didn't it just wasn't that popular okay no hold on
Starting point is 00:41:38 I used to know this there's a shitty horror movie called the fourth kind that's a the fourth kind is being abducted I think isn't it
Starting point is 00:41:49 the first kind is like just seeing it seeing it or something uh huh second kind I don't know I used to know all this shit
Starting point is 00:42:00 because I used to be real, real into alien stuff. Not as much as DJ. And, you know, I sort of fell out of the game. He obviously, he just kept soaring. But he never let it. You quit after the fourth kind. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:16 But anyway, there's another thing that I just want to, for whatever reason, and seriously, we could do it briefly. Another big story and comedy this week. that I'd just like to give a small disclaimer on in case anybody is wondering. That whole Chris DeLea shit, if it's crossed anybody's mind,
Starting point is 00:42:40 like, why we've, why we've had silence on it, or I mean, at least I've had silence on it, breaking that silence now. I don't know that motherfucker at all. I've met him briefly one time. Very briefly, we exchanged like two sentences. I don't know anything about him,
Starting point is 00:42:59 but based on, you know, all the shit that I've seen, it seems pretty likely that, you know, he's into all that, that being, like, uh, grooming young, girls, yeah, whatever,
Starting point is 00:43:13 like around that between, you know, between like 15 and 19 something another. And, you know, uh, that don't hit for me. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:20 that don't hit for me neither. I'll go ahead. And so just, yeah, going on the, but yeah, just in case, so I don't get left out.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah. It does not hit for me either. There you go. Three out of three, don't hits from the well red boys. So just to be clear, but I did one aspect. He don't hit for me either before all this. Me either, but I never wanted to say that
Starting point is 00:43:37 because I can't stand it up sometimes with him go, oh, you know what? I never thought Bill Cosby was funny anyways. First off, yes, he was. And secondly, okay, were you a hero for not thinking of rapists was funny? But it ain't just us. Lord of Kilmartin raised the point that Louis had all those women accusing him of jacking off in front of them
Starting point is 00:43:54 and one or two of them saying he trapped him in a room to do it. And the comedy community bent over back to defend him and almost nobody's defending Christa Leah. And that's kind of gross. It's gross that people would defend somebody just based upon, but her point is nobody liked him to begin. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah, right. And that's right. I agree with Corey, though. Like the whole like I also kind of, it also kind of don't have for me when people do it. I'll never like this motherfucker anyway. It's like, well, that fuck you both. I've been saying it the whole time.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Well, it's like, probably on this podcast. It's just kind of entirely. That's all I'm saying. I've said stuff in private because, like, I don't, like, even if I don't like another comedian, I just don't ever like to put any committee until they commit a crime. And then I'll be like, fuck that person. But like, if it's just I don't like your comedy, usually I'm just like, whatever. But it ain't just that.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Hold on. Let's not let it be said that it's just, I don't find him that funny. That was it for me. His dad bought him a career. I didn't know none of that. He got Whitney Cummings show made on the, uh, with the condition that she. she put him in it. So he also therefore got him an acting career.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Wait, man. Hold on. His best first viral joke was about drunk girls. He stole it from Dylan Moran, word for word. He's a fucking dick back. Like, it wasn't just like, I don't think he's that funny. I don't care if I don't think he's a dick bad. He's a dick bad.
Starting point is 00:45:17 He's a dick bad. He wasn't funny. Okay. Yeah, I didn't know none of that. The only thing I want to, I was purely artistic. The Whitney Cummings thing in particular, Whitney Cummings very famously had two pilots at
Starting point is 00:45:29 the same time that were greenlit simultaneously, the show you're talking about, and two broke girls. And she was forced to choose, and of course, she picked the one, her namesake or whatever, the eponymous one, which I understand. But it's not like she was in a, not like she was in dire straits or a shitty situation. Well, no. I don't think that's how that works. And I don't mean to suggest that it does.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I mean, in order to have the opportunity to get a sitcom, you're in the conversation with maybe 10 other people, probably five. But how they choose who of those five, I'm saying that, you know, look, legend has it. I mean, Chris DeLeia's dad is rich and very well connected and supposedly he was in on it. Maybe he wasn't. Well, either way, the, okay, Corey, hey, what is it? I have one thing I want to say about Chris DeLea's whole deal aside from all that. But Cho clearly has something who wants to do or say.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Oh, I was just hoping that you would think I looked like the moon because I just went to scratch my head and I took my hat off and I've got the Aurora Borealis behind me. And I was like, it's a little hit for Trey. I want him to see me. You do like the bone. I can tell how excited you are. This reminds me of what happened last night. I'm going to tell it real quick.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Oh, God damn. I've rewatched. Me and Katie and the boys rewatched Ant Man last night. Movie hits. Movie does hit. The villain in Ant Man is Yellow Jacket, right? Corey Stoll. Evil scientist guy, played by Corey Stoll,
Starting point is 00:46:55 who you also would know from House of Cards and a bunch of other. Midnight in Paris. Yeah, he's awesome. He plays Yellow Jacket, and while watching that movie, Yellow Jacket don't get a lot of play, in my opinion, when people discuss big villains or not like that. And he wasn't that big of a villain, and that's why when he pops up in the full Yellow Jacket suit
Starting point is 00:47:15 at the end of the movie, toward the end of the movie, when you first see him, I had the thought, like, man, this motherfucker's pretty badass, really. Like, I kind of feel like this guy's a little underrated as a villain because that's pretty fucking sweet-looking, He's got lazy. He's a bug with lasers and shit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Anyway, it does hit. And I just texted Corey because I know he's a big Marvel fan board, whatever. I was like, you know, I think Yellow Jackets underrated as a villain. He's actually a pretty, pretty rad villain. And Corey's response was, I know what you're doing right now. And I was like, what? I just thought you would. He's like, you're trying to bait me into saying something about him being bald.
Starting point is 00:47:54 And this is a bald thing. and that's why it hits for me is because he's bald. And I was like, and I said, I was just, I was talking about him in the suit even. I didn't even, I wasn't even thinking about. Corey Stahl is bald, but he's a hitting ball, Joe. So why would I relate that to you? Oh, that's not. Here's why.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Let me tell you this. This is kind of ironic because right after you sent that, I started watching, I just, just have now started Star Trek the next generation. Never watched it in my life. I mean, it came on. It started when I was born and then I, hell when I was a kid, you couldn't just go back in,
Starting point is 00:48:36 back in my day, you couldn't just go back and watch shit. I used to watch it in syndication when I was a kid. Me too. And I would watch it, but not in order or nothing. That's what I'm saying. Like,
Starting point is 00:48:46 I had seen episodes, but like, I didn't know what the fuck was going on. So I was like, I'm going to start this motherfucker and it's just going to be my new jam. And as I was watching it, I was sitting there and like, Patrick,
Starting point is 00:48:56 Stewart first walks in, like the first time he ever walks in. And I just got the, I swelled up with pride. I, like, spoiled pride. And I was just like, man, he's a hit and bald. And I almost texted you, man, Patrick Stewart, he's a hit and bald. And then I remembered a text message that you sent one time out of the blue that literally just said, hey, Cho, Patrick Stewart, is he considered a hitting bald as in as in i have a meeting once a week with all these other bald motherfuckers where we just sit there and go all right who's our bald of the month Patrick stewart right so okay but just okay but he is a hit bald right he hits for you cori stole hits for you let me guess michael chickles hit for you actually i've only ever i've never seen michael chickles i haven't
Starting point is 00:49:46 seen the shield so like i haven't so i'm sure you should check it out who's a real hitting bald dude Hank from Hank from fucking Breaking Bad was like I thought one of the most underrated characters I loved him I did like yeah he's made me think about it like there's a bunch like I do find myself Larry David's like my favorite anytime there's a really hit and ball
Starting point is 00:50:07 I'm like yeah you got it Solidarity yeah like they're like Larry David's like Larry David's like Larry David's like my Barack Obama Yeah it's like if you can do it you know Will Sassa Dude, bro, are you shitting me? I made Andy.
Starting point is 00:50:23 He's also fat, so it hits on two levels. He's a fat ball. And he's funny. He's very funny. He's hilarious. He's super tired. I made Andy watch. You've seen him do the Kenny Rogers.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Kenny Rogers, cock ass. Yeah. And I was done. And this is jackass. This is how good he is at it. He's playing Kenny Rogers. You know, pardon my not correct thing here. He's playing him as a mentally handicapped person.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And the reason he's doing it is the whole, really the joke is he's Southern, therefore he's stupid. Yeah, yeah. And he's so good at it. It does not piss me off in the slightest. I hadn't even really thought about it. Making them ribs. And he goes, mm, that's good. Fucking kills me every time.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I get it. My man, breaking up. So I guess he's that good at it because it's never, I've never considered it that. Well, the first time I saw it. Yeah, man, so many balls. I love. Bruce Willis, my God. The first time I saw that sketch, the reason I realized it is I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:28 why is he playing Kenny Rogers is dumb? Kenny Rogers ain't dumb. And then I was like, oh, because he's Southern. And that's like the way to do it. Joe, J.K. Simmons? Oh, my God, bro. You know how excited? You know how excited I was when they said he was coming back as Joe,
Starting point is 00:51:41 Jonah Jameson? He's like, I think the only character who could have done that, I think. I agree. And have everybody be thrilled about it. And I agree. Yeah, you couldn't have done that in almost any. anybody. I got two and they're related. I want to know. Do you remember that Billy Zane was bald for a while? Yeah. Did that make y'all mad? Does that like, uh, stolen ballot? Okay. Okay. Okay. Now, he's not as
Starting point is 00:52:05 famous, but Wayne Rooney is a soccer player. That don't have for me. And then he got his hair fixed. That hits. I'm fine with that. Okay. I like, I think, and he lied about it, though. He was like, oh, I've always had hair. I just show you. You know why? You know why he lied about it because there's a huge fucking stigma, man, about someone getting their goddamn hair plugs or something like that. They're like, oh, yeah, well, you know what? He used to be bald. Well, motherfucker, some people used to have a disease and they took a goddamn pill.
Starting point is 00:52:31 You're going to be mad at them like, oh, no, he's supposed to have diabetes. Look at him over there walking with both feet, piece of shit. Like, he's just going to eat all them popsicles and then have surgery, motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Like that. I laugh to fart at in the middle of that rant. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Does that make me like honorary ball? Yeah, yeah. I knew as soon as, as soon as you were like, you said, Wayne Rooney, he got used to be bald, but then he got it fixed. And I was like, no, that's for me. I knew where that was going and exactly how it was going to get there. Does it make you upset that LeBron never allowed himself to be bald because he could have been your ultimate champion?
Starting point is 00:53:13 Black ball don't count. Listen, it don't, man. I don't get what fuck if that's woke or not. Nobody goes, oh, if you ever heard anybody say Michael Jordan's bald? I've never even heard anybody say Michael Jordan's black. That's how hard he hits. But like Michael Jordan's bald. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Black ball don't get. Montel, bald, fucking Omar, bald. That don't matter. The black, they just hit so hard that bald is fine. Black bald don't count. Charles Barkley, bald, you don't think about it. I'm not at all disputing it. I certainly trust.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I think it's unfortunately. you're black before you're anything else. And if you're a white man, bald's the worst thing you can do. That's true. And look, I don't give a shit how much heat I get for it. I'll go on record saying black bald don't count. That thing about you not ever hearing about him being black, there was a whole, like, there was a famous article written about that at the time.
Starting point is 00:54:06 I mean, it was before anything could go viral. I think it was called Michael Jordan is black. And the whole thing was about how, at a time when that's how people would describe athletes, first and foremost, he was one of the first ones that didn't. get described that way. I thought, isn't there all,
Starting point is 00:54:22 and I'm not, hit too hard. I don't know the time. O.J. I was about to say, I don't know the timeline. I don't know the timeline. I don't know timeline of OJ.
Starting point is 00:54:28 versus Jordan, but yes, that dynamic I've always associated with O.J. He said it himself. I'm not black. I'm O.J. And that's accurate to hit, I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:38 to how his lifestyle was. That's true, but I'm saying like, as far compared to other black, if he was trying to make the point of, look, my life is better than most black people,
Starting point is 00:54:48 because I'm not black, I'm OJ, then I'm fine with that statement. Because that was fucking right, man. Like, especially at that time, there wasn't just, like, it's that Chris Rock bit where he's talking about all the Emmys he won, all the Grammys he won, and blah, blah, blah, and the neighborhood that he lives in. He's like, you know what my neighbor does for a living? He's a fucking dentist. Dentist.
Starting point is 00:55:06 You know what a black guy would have to do to be a dentist and living in this neighborhood? He'd have to invent teeth. His motherfucker fucking didn't invent some new guy of dentist shit. He's just a regular pull your tooth. foul-ass dentist. So like OJ living in Brentwood, man, like that's, you know, like he was not black. He was over the record. I'm not saying Michael Jordan was the first one.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And I don't even know if the article was saying that. It was just saying that he was one of the first. Yeah. I want to do a couple of quick housekeeping things just so I don't leave these threads hanging for whatever reason. I pulled this up on Wikipedia, go through these quickly. Close encounters of the first kind are visual sightings of a UFO, right? Close encounters of the second kind is when a UFO event in which a physical effect is alleged.
Starting point is 00:55:53 So like crop circles or like electrical interference, stuff like that. Close encounters of the third kind is when UFO encounters in which an animated entity is present, like humanoid robots and humans. So that's seeing an alien, like somehow, not just seeing a UFO. Close encounters of the fourth kind is when a human is abducted by aliens. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Close encounters of the fifth kind is a U-in-Fo event that involves direct communication between aliens and humans. Bilateral contact experiences through conscious, voluntary, and proactive human-initiated cooperative communication with extraterrestrial intelligence.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Close encounters. Yeah, no, there's more. There's two more. Close encounters of the sixth kind is the death of a human or animal associated with a UFO. Oh, wow. Close encounters of the seventh kind, the creation of a human alien hybrid, either by sexual reproduction or artificial scientific methods. Obviously, multiple items on this list have never been confirmed to have existed or occurred.
Starting point is 00:57:08 People have just thought about them in basement. and then codified them this way. So, but that's what, that's, that's, that's the seven that are recognized so far. All right. Um, my housekeeping thing, don't hit to hear. I had another one after years. My house, all right, my quick housekeeping thing, Bill Delia is Chris Delia's dad. And I was, I think, slightly wrong, Trey.
Starting point is 00:57:34 He, uh, he is the creator and writer of judging Amy. He's been a producer on so many shows. Chicago Hope, Boston Legal, all the city shows. Yes, it seems like it for sure. Anyway, a lot of things. He's a big time Hollywood dude. And supposedly he threatened with his own show that he got his son on the job, but it had nothing to do with Whitney.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Right. The first time we've decided to do this housekeeping thing after killing numerous beloved television stars, we've just now started to correct ourselves at the end. I think I was right on with everything I said today. I don't have any housekeeping. Well, my other housekeeping thing isn't even the thing that I got wrong earlier. It's a thing I referenced as though I was about to get into it.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And then we, of course, got sidetracked. I just want to circle back to it. It's also about Christaalia. It fucking blows my mind, man. So the Christaa thing so far, the last count I saw was that there's been over 500 screenshots submitted by girls. So 500 different girls? 500 well I
Starting point is 00:58:45 literally what I read over 500 screenshots from women I don't know if that means 500 different women or either way it's a fucking high number and also disclaimer I ain't went through all those I'm sure a lot of those are probably from women who were of age who were 19, 20, 21 or whatever
Starting point is 00:59:02 who were just saying Christa Leav was a creep or whatever the fuck but even if it's a small percentage of them where you know high school girls or whatnot, that's still way too many and is still fucked up. But my point is like, I just can't, how do you, the energy. How do you, well, okay, hey, that, that's like, I can't imagine that in 500 interactions with any fucking body.
Starting point is 00:59:25 But also, like, how do you not know no better than that in this day and age? Like, just the, like, I don't think it's a rich white entitled, rich white entitled thing or whatever. But dude, if fucking Kevin Spacey wasn't too big to get tucked down, then you are not either,
Starting point is 00:59:45 dog. No, like you're so, like, how do you not cover your bases no way than that? Aren't a lot of those
Starting point is 00:59:51 women older now? I mean, and I'm not defending. That's how age works, baby, yeah. Well, no,
Starting point is 00:59:59 I think they all are. I think they all older. It didn't happen last year, is my point. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I don't think he was that famous. We weren't, living in the time we're living in. I think he thought he could get away with it. I mean, he named his first special white male black comic. And that was based around a joke in which he said, I'm actually black.
Starting point is 01:00:19 That was in 2013. Now, I'm not bringing that up to like, say, see, he's up. But it's just like, that's also around the time this shit was going down. We have to remember that the world has changed, mostly for the better, in that you do get caught doing shit like this. Yeah, right. For sure. But I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:00:39 I'm saying I think he stopped. I could be wrong. If you look at that, if you look at that clip from that one show that, that Caitlin Delaney, who's a very, very funny writer on,
Starting point is 01:00:49 on Rick and Morty, you should follow her on Twitter. Caitlin Delaney, she's funny as shit. She put the carbure enthusiasm music to it. It was fucking Delea. And you could see the life
Starting point is 01:00:59 leave his body when they were, he was like, wait, wait, how they were talking about people Snapchat and getting caught, cheating on their wife and she don't snap. She's like,
Starting point is 01:01:07 well, how'd that how'd they get caught? And they're like, well, they must have. He's like, Snapchat goes away, right? And they're like, now you can record it. And like, he fucking, like, he looks aside like, oh, my gosh, I've made a huge mistake. You could tell he didn't know. And I know, and I know Drew's point, like, things have changed a lot, but still, I was, me and Katie.
Starting point is 01:01:23 He might be stupid. Right. Well, me and Katie were talking about the other night. And I told her, like, if Katie fucking leaves me and I am forced to go back into the dating game, I'm going to treat that shit like, fucking corner boys into wire, treat the dope game. Just fucking like, no phones. You get the money? you give me the shit.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I'm going around the corner. That way, it's not one transaction. I ain't having nothing that could be misconstrued by nobody ever, like, fucking, you know, like, and I'm not going to do anything illicit, but I'm saying, like, I don't want to at any point appear as though I might have.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I can't imagine if I was doing shit. Right, but I don't. So fucking laissez-faire about it, just throwing that shit out into the ether when, dude, Brett Farrv got into shit for dickpicks, How long ago was that? A long time ago, man. Now.
Starting point is 01:02:11 All right. But. But. Yeah. And I don't want, like what you're, you're accidentally, I think, because you're not a creep, coming off like you would do all these covert things to never get caught being a creep a little bit. And I know that's not what you're saying. What you're saying is like, I have no.
Starting point is 01:02:38 He wanted to do something wrong. clearly. Like, this dude at some point was very famous in a certain world. He had shows on TV and stuff. He could have fucked a 22-year-old anytime he wanted. Not any 22-year-old. That's not what I'm saying. But a 22-year-old, a 21-year-old, a 20-year-old.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Like, he wanted new underage girls. Like, that's, if there are 500, I should say that, I should say that. If there are, in fact, 500, and we have all. these examples. My point being, I don't think he, it's not that he thought, he never thought that I might not get away with this.
Starting point is 01:03:20 It was worth it to him because he liked it. And that's why I'm just, I guess what I'm trying to say is it's the same thing that I talked about last week about these cops and how I can't wrap my head around. They know, they fully know and understand the intense public scrutiny they are under.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And I just cannot imagine the audacity involved that to be in that situation, you would still conduct yourself in the way that so many of them have conducted themselves. And I mean the same thing when I talk about Christalia. I literally can't wrap my head around the level of like, like I said, audacity, gall, entitlement, stupidity, all of the above, whatever you want to call it, it just blows my fucking mind. Well, again, like, I hate to play this role of like, let me outwoke, the woke comedian or whatever, but like... I don't think you hate it, but go on.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I mean, I hate it because of that. And that's like, no, thank you for proving my point. Like, I don't, you know what I mean? I could tell you the truth about yourself right now. Oh, that was so, Raven. And you treat me like that, or I could keep it to myself, but like, I mean, that's what rape culture is. For years, they could and did get away with shit like this.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Chris Dalia became a comic at the very end of people being able to get away with that. He probably saw his heroes getting away with shit like that. He probably saw many, many producers, actors and comedians doing the same type of thing, whether it was with 16-year-olds or 18-year-olds. It's probably why he wanted to do it. Yeah. I mean, you know, he was in that world. Right, he was in that world.
Starting point is 01:05:03 And he's like, all right, what's the, I'm not leading man handsome. them, I'll learn a joke. You know, I can be in this. And I'm saying that's, that's the good side of all this stuff, is that hopefully it is changing and will prevent some people from doing things that they do want to do,
Starting point is 01:05:21 but they won't do them because they might get caught. Right. But back then, people just didn't think they get caught because a lot of fucking people didn't. Yeah. Well, I mean, back then a lot of, they got caught, like as in the girl would go and then it would just go away.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Right. Getting caught didn't matter. Like getting caught wasn't a big deal. It was just like there wasn't a Twitter. There wasn't a like so when you got caught back then, it just like it was one PR phone call away and a check from I'll just do it again. You know what I'm saying? And I think he knew that.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yeah. I just feel like I totally understand what you're saying about the culture at large, like in the more macro sense. But I don't feel, I just don't feel like Chris Delia has been around in any prominent fashion for long enough for that to be that to be that much. much of a factor to me. Like, I guess I'm, like, you get older, you get older and time passes much more quickly.
Starting point is 01:06:14 You said his first specials in 2013. I mean, that's fucking seven years ago. But, like, I so, maybe I'm just wrong, but, you know. Just think it's clearly he grew up with it. He just grew up because of his dad in that, right. That's what I think. I think it's more just an entitlement thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Yeah, it's not, it's not like he's been in the game so long that things used to be different for him in the game. It's just that he grew up. He in the game was what it was, and he learned from those older dudes, and it just never fucking, nothing was different. Let me,
Starting point is 01:06:41 hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, the Whitney pilot, 2011. Yeah. He got that special,
Starting point is 01:06:49 he was already a house, not a household name, but becoming one. I'm telling you guys, it's just now ending. Right, yeah. And it's not even really ending.
Starting point is 01:06:59 It's just, I know, but again, the, like, yes, that was almost 10 years ago. I know me too.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to, act like men in 2011 gave a fuck about women or like they do right now. But I'm not saying that, but I'm saying like to act like we were all just totally ignorant of how you're like,
Starting point is 01:07:18 you know, what's the word? Like your virtual indiscretions could be a problem for you. I don't, I think that was a thing in 2011 still. Like I don't think that. I'm not saying it wasn't at all, but I'm saying that the
Starting point is 01:07:36 me too. movement hadn't happened. The Me Too movement, definitely having that. Brett Farr's... Had not gotten Bill Cosby canceled. If you're Chris DeLea and you grew up in that world, there was no reason for you to believe
Starting point is 01:07:48 you couldn't get away with that shit, is what I'm saying. There was... He did. He did for years. Forever, yeah. Okay. The Brett Farr Dick Picks scandal was 2010.
Starting point is 01:08:01 That's a different world, though. Yeah, but I don't know. It was a huge thing. I just don't. I think that also was because everybody was just mad. Brett Farf cheated on his wife. He didn't get canceled. Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:08:14 That was kind of a lot of the thing was like he's a married man. He shouldn't have done that. And he's this good old down homeboy, not a, you know, I mean, he ain't, but you know what I mean. Yeah. This is all about like the 24-hour nude cycle and stuff like that, though, which I feel is also like has been a rank. I feel like it also kind of gives him like a, I don't know, another. I know it doesn't make any difference in the, as far as, what he did, but it's almost like giving him a different leg to stand on in his argument where
Starting point is 01:08:42 it's like pleading some form of ignorance or something that I don't think he had. I just don't think he gave, like, again, I think it's more about his rich white entitled background than it was about like him not knowing. Rich white entitled background and rape culture are like this. I know. And like the Me Too movement's whole deal was that was, you know, like Harvey Weinstein, Billcott. I mean, the Me Too movement is not not focused on poor people. who are assaulters and rapists, but like it's focused on famous people. I mean,
Starting point is 01:09:12 you don't know those guys fucking names. That's part of it, but it's also that like, I don't know, I don't want to speak on behalf of the whole fucking Me Too movement. All I'm trying to express is that that white, rich,
Starting point is 01:09:25 famous entitlement is what protected him. Like he had their feelings because he was going to be protected. Right. You can only get canceled if you've got something to be fucking canceled from. Like,
Starting point is 01:09:38 I'm sure that my goddamn uncle who killed himself in January, probably sent his fucking wrinkled meth-addled dick around to a bunch of people he ought not have done. But, like, hell, he's on unemployment sending it home. What's going to happen to his ass? So, like, it don't, the people that don't matter and don't hit and ain't poor, like, yeah, I mean, they're still going to be doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:55 The other thing is, like, we're kind of just talking about this all. Like, it all was, all these screenshots, all this shit was for sure from, like, seven years ago, like pre-May 2 and stuff like that. And I don't, I mean, is that true? Are they all that old? It's not like, he wasn't doing this last year or the year before. It just doesn't seem like something you could quit. Yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Well, but you can start. You wanted to do that or you didn't want to do that. And if you did, like, you wouldn't. Snapchat came out in 2011. I don't know how big it got. And I don't know when that interview's from. I mean, and that's another thing. Look, we're now getting involved in so many fucking hypotheticals and, and.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Right. legend type things and I don't mean he did or didn't do it but if you just take that clip of him kind of getting wide out about Snapchat for face value here's what you got there a guy that we're pretty sure was reaching out to 16 year olds for nudes and dates who've heard about Snapchat and started using it right pretty quickly my point being is like as the world evolved and Harvey Weinstein got outed and Bill Cosby got out of it I'm sure he did start changing his techniques and maybe he stopped doing it at some point because of his shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:11 What do you all think about the fact that he has twice played a pedophile on TV shows once on workaholics? Once on Workaholics, which was a complete jump. That episode's fucking hilarious. I don't care what anybody says. You all ever see that? His screen name is Bieber Hole 69 or whatever. He comes over with Xbox and shit. That episode is fucking funny.
Starting point is 01:11:33 They took it down off Hulu. Yeah, I know. But the other one, the much, much later one is from the show you on Netflix, which I watched already. I watched it before all this. Did it hit for you or did you watch it with Katie? I very much watched it with Katie and at her behest, but it did it hit for me. Did you like it or did your wife make you?
Starting point is 01:11:54 Well, no, I'm saying that because it was both. I mean, dude, look, the reason that I'm saying that is actually more sexist than what it even sounded. It's because Amber watched it and I was like, well, there's no way this hit. But I didn't know I could have been enjoying it with her. I mean, that would have been nice. I could have got credit. No, it's a good show. It's a bit much in multiple instances, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:12:14 You mean, like when they had the pedophile, play the pedophile? Right. So, but okay, but in that, that show's not a comedy. That show's like a thriller. It's like a dramatic thriller. And in that show, he plays a pedophile. He plays himself, basically. He plays a, like, rich, entertainer.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Cool kid, comedian. stand-up comedian specifically. Oh, yes. I mean, he's literally is just, he's just playing himself. I got to go watch that episode.
Starting point is 01:12:42 At the time, watching it. Although I can't jerk off till tomorrow because I got to go to the fertility clinic, so I'll watch it if I get back. At the time, watching it, at the time watching it,
Starting point is 01:12:52 it's like, this is just Christelia playing himself if he was a pedophile. But like now, it's like, it was fucked up at the time because it was supposed to be fucked up. It was fucking up.
Starting point is 01:13:03 for only fictional reasons. John Lithgow played a serial killer. He's not a serial killer. It's fine. But now, like, with hindsight and everything, it's like way more fucked up, obviously. But like I'm saying, and this is all speculation, I don't even know who casted that or anything.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I don't know. I'm just wondering, do y'all think that, like, do you all think, right, that it was like a thing that people kind of knew about and that was part of it? Like a rib? Or do you think that he, like, as soon as they came, man, they were like, oh, this is the guy. Like, this guy gets it, man.
Starting point is 01:13:39 You think it was like, yeah, like it was him being, like, he thought, okay, if I do this, then ever, you know, like, somehow it'll, it'll be easier for me to just be like, oh, they're only saying this because I played this role and blah, blah, blah, blah, I don't fucking know, man. Yeah, no hiding in plain sight thing. Yeah. I mean, that's another story is why he took the role because that is so psychotic in retrospect in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:14:02 It's insane. role knowing about the skeletons you got in your closet is fucking nuts. And the only thing I can think about is, again, him just not giving a fuck or some kind of hiding in plain sight thing that he is. They'll never suspect me. Yeah, or maybe he thought he's like, if I tell him no, then they're going to be like, why don't you want to play a pedophile? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Well, priests, teachers, first of all, they do hide in plain sight. But, all right, it's funny because I was saying this to DJ about a very different situation. when it comes to like speculation and conspiracy, I feel like it's the only thing I'm a centrist on. I see it kind of down the middle. Probably he got the rolling out on workaholics because he kind of looks like a pedophile. He's got a big old fucking nose,
Starting point is 01:14:48 but he also looks like a dude who could pass, especially back then. That episode's what, five, six years old, maybe eight? Oh, dude, no, more than that. Yeah, it's like 10. It's probably 10 years old now. So he could pass as a young guy. They needed to cast a young comic.
Starting point is 01:15:01 There's not a lot of famous young comic, you know, et cetera, et cetera. His dad's getting him roles. He gets the role of a pedophile. A role of a comedian pedophile comes down the pipe. His fucking manager, who's a shark, knows that he looks the part in terms of a young comic who's got hip fans and has played a pedophile before.
Starting point is 01:15:23 And you know you get typecast in Hollywood. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it probably was a combination of those things that led to it. And then in terms of him being a psycho, my guess is he got the part. What was he going to do? Say no. He didn't say no to the 16 year old girl
Starting point is 01:15:37 who wanted to suck his dick. He's definitely not going to say to pretending to be that guy. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, I don't think it was like planned is what I'm saying. And I hope to God the casting director didn't know. Yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't even really. That'd be hard for me to. Yeah, because that's a hell of a thing.
Starting point is 01:15:56 And I very much doubt that that's true. I think it's more like, I think it's more of like, man, fucking nailed it. That's a great casting director. Right. Right. I had a fucking Allison Jones over here.
Starting point is 01:16:09 God damn. Had a great read on that one. It does look weird. Can I say one more thing about it? And I won't know many names, but it's just something that's bothered me about sort of, and we've talked about them before on here, and just in general,
Starting point is 01:16:22 these free speech warrior comedians. And they have, you know, some of them suck and some of them are very famous and they're very funny. a lot of his friends are that and some of them have circled the wagons for him and that's so so goddamn funny to me and what a hilder down in a nark in a in a nark lord in a dark absurd way that's very funny to me because it's like you you hate safe spaces and all these other things that you're claiming to do but like your buddy can't take the heat of something he absolutely did wrong number one and then number two
Starting point is 01:16:58 these are the people who are always talking about Jeffrey Epstein being a pedophile, always want to know if Bill Clinton, you know, he was on the plane, he wasn't on the plane. And look, I don't give a fuck. If Bill Clinton was on that plane, then let's say his ass on fire. Absolutely. I don't get a fuck him. But, like, it's clear that you don't actually have a problem with pedophiles. You just have a problem with rich liberals.
Starting point is 01:17:16 And if you find out they're a pedophile, then you go after him or whatever. And that shit just pisses me off. It's so fucking much. Speak, you just kind of, you brought it. I think we've talked about this. You just brought up another thing that pissed me off. This is completely off subject. but like it's so hilarious to me that the right thinks that we wouldn't set bill clinton on fire for a better world
Starting point is 01:17:35 like they think for some reason like if bill did something we'd be like we must protect bill clinton at all cost like look i hope bill didn't do that shit but if you did like you said fuck them fuck christillia fuck all that shit like i don't bill clinton don't give a fuck about me man and christillie don't give a fuck about you so yeah well uh you can go to well red comedy dot com w e l l R-E-D-Comedycom. Also check out Drew's other podcast Into the Abisket. He also has a Patreon. And we will not be on
Starting point is 01:18:06 the road this month, but you can keep hollering at this podcast. Let's do an online show. Sounds like a good idea, Drew. Stay tuned for more information on when we do that online show. But until then, thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to
Starting point is 01:18:21 stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you, God bless you. Good night and skew.

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