wellRED podcast - #183 - Killer Raccoons 2 Reunion W/ Resident Tubular Dude Travis Irvine!

Episode Date: August 26, 2020

Our good buddy Travis Irvine joins us to talk about being a libertarian in Wyoming and what it's like in local politics there, and we also talk about his new movie (That all 3 WellRED boys are in!) Killer Raccoons 2: Dark Christmas In The Dark (available HERE!)

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It's over on all the podcast apps and at screendoorpod.com. On this episode, we got to talk with a guy who you may remember from the podcast several years ago when we were in Washington, D.C. Our buddy Travis Irvine, just a tremendously tubular dude, one of my favorite people in the entire world. We talk about him being a libertarian in, currently in Wyoming. And we talk about among other things, his latest movie, Killer Raccoons 2, Dark Christmas in the Dark, which you can find at troma.com. It's one of those trauma movies. You can also find it on iTunes, Amazon, Dish TV, Direct TV. You can order it on all those things. It's tremendous. And all three of us, the Well Red Boys, have a cameo in there. We play the train conductors. It's really cool. It's a really

fun movie. So without further ado, here's the podcast, everybody. rednecks they like cornbread but sex they care way too much but don't give a fun they're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset but they got three big old dick that you can suck well here we are we got a hell of an episode for you today a little later on we got Travis Irvine I don't know if y'all remember him but you should he's a totally tubular dude he's coming back to talk about his new smash hit movie killer raccoon too dark Christmas in the dark it's a little bit later on but before that what's going on fellers oh man I'm just hanging out hanging out here at the house my house sitting from mom and dad

I don't know if you realize but you know we've been talking for like 45 minutes and the internet ain't fucked up one time so what up having a blast vacation I would have lived thought right I think I was about to say what you're about to say I would have thought that all internet in Chickamauga was same internet like because there was only one internet No, the problem is just where I live happens to be literally the cutoff. I'm 200 feet past the cutoff. I had to convince Comcast to even, like, they didn't want to do it. They're like, you know, you're 200 feet out of our zone.

So my internet hits 200 feet less than most people. And turns out that's enough to just really not hit. I got to be honest. I can't wrap my head around that. Me either. Me either, but it is a thing. I agree with you. I know you have a wireless router.

Yeah. But they had to wire the internet into your house. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So what made it not hit? It's don't hit. It's not any wires?

Just don't hit. At the last 200 feet, the fucking internet got tired? I'm telling you. If you weren't listening or something, maybe Drew, but it just don't hit. Yeah, like, I don't know any other way to explain it other than like it don't hit. It's 200 feet of don't hit. And then his internet's got to traverse all that. don't hit before it gets into his house

and then it gets there and it just don't hit. Yeah, don't hit. But over here at my parents' house, it's hit city. And I think I'm just going to start doing the podcast over here all the time. Yeah, a podcast from your parents' house?

Yeah, I'm not like that wasn't originally the plan in my life before Tray got a video. Exactly. How hot, how fucking hot is it there where you are? Oh, buddy. It's cooled off, it's only 90-something probably.

It's been, no it's been it was i don't know i don't know the exact number of days i wasn't keeping up with it but it was like triple digits every day for along for over a week or so here in the back six days in a row of triple digits nine or ten days in a row of like 95 or higher we're now at 86 and let me tell you son it feels like a dream my bronco's been in the shop forever and i just got it out and it don't got no air conditioning that works and i just know i was getting fixed and driving it home in 86 wasn't it right now driving it anywhere in 98

I won't do it no of course not that's insane I broke my leg have you got I just stay here is it leather seat no it's that it's the Eddie Bauer edition in 85 it wasn't leather yet it was like three years before leather I was about say if you got leather seats fucking forget about it you can literally cook a steak

on that motherfucker uh uh uh I don't know if we talked about this on here before or not I'm sure we probably have but just so you don't know everybody else listening from the south. You hear a lot of talk about dry heat, how humid it is in the south and all that. It don't fucking matter. Out west, it's like, oh, it gets hot, but it's a dry heat. Yeah. 108 degrees is fucking hot. I don't give a shit how goddamn dry it is. You can tell a big

difference. For sure. If it's the same, dry heat and humidity, you can tell a difference. But when it's fucking over 105 degrees out for days at a time, it is hot. Don't let nobody bullshit. Because like right and hot. Here's my theory. Here's my theory. on that people in Charleston. It's the worst. People who go to Charleston. And they go, well, yeah, it's as hot out west, but it's a dry heat. And then that phrasing or that saying got so popular,

people started saying it in Tennessee. But 85 inhuman or 80 inhuman don't even come close to 100 in dry. No, of course not. In Charleston, 96 in humid is really the worst. No, it's unbearable. I mean, I think because we're dumb, man, Katie, honeymoon in Charleston in late June and it was literally over 100 degrees over 100 degrees every day we're in Charleston

with humidity and now that is about as bad as it gets outside of probably the Middle East somewhere I don't know yeah I mean this shit is pretty fucking rough too I mean it's out here it's like 80 something here and it's been it would like rain in the morning and then the sun will come out and so it's fucking sticky and miserable and shit but dude I've been to L.A. when y'all've been having them scorchers and like this all day like this Absolutely all day. Like once you get past 100, I don't really give a fuck dry, wet, fucking sandy.

Like it sucks. It don't hit. What do you think Thompson's second right now? God damn, 10 minutes on the weather. Jesus Christ. Are they papas already? Good Lord. Talk about something else.

Fucking idiots. God, that's fucking great. You ever mowed in the goddamn heat? Ain't none of the boys in a day. Try mowing in it, you fucking pussy. That's time. one of you motherfuckers picked up a weed eater. He was wet behind the ears.

Well, since we're doing this, fuck him. He sent us a picture of his goddamn wife mowing the other day, so I don't want to hear shit about it. Yeah, but he's been working for that for a long time. We need to say it was an event. You had to take a picture. We need to start a new segment called the Thompson Report. And obviously, we're not going to have Thompson on,

but we just read Thompson's text. Like whatever he texts at the end, we just compile all his lunacy into one review of our previous episode. and this I don't feel and this one's about to be a fucking doozy. I actually had something written down to my notes I was thinking about maybe bringing up, but I can't decide how it's going to translate

because it might just me having been a little too high or something when I was thinking about it, but it's related to Thompson, so since we're on him, I'm going to read up. Yeah, we'll see. Do you all have any, like, and I know this is a weird question, you probably don't have an offhand answer to,

but any, like, seemingly very minor interactions with people that you remember for like ever after that, like years and years later. Like, I have one exchange with Thompson that I was thinking about the other night because I was watching this documentary about the history of video games,

and it reminded me of this exchange I had with Thompson when we were in high school that I've never forgotten and that I will think of randomly, you know, over the course of my life. And it's not, and it's a relatively seemingly inconsequential thing that's just always stuck with me. We were playing, we used to play the shit out of PlayStation,

obviously. and we were playing Grand Turismo, which is a racing game. There was none better. No, yeah, but king of the racing game franchises for a long time may still be. I don't know. I'm kind of out of the racing game game, but it used to be the tops.

Yeah. We played the shit of it. We were playing that one night, and I was playing and I went around some big, like, 180-degree turn. I was trying to drift around it or something. I got hit by another car somehow fucked up and I got like knocked into the air and did like a full flip and landed on my wheels

but it was right before the finish line and so I lost. But that like looked cool and like Grand Torezmo ain't that kind of game. Like that sort of shit almost never happens in that game. It ain't it's not like a demolition derby type game or whatever. So I flipped it up there and landed and I lost and I was like just like sort of rant and I was like,

I was like, oh man, God damn. I was like, I should at least get like bonus points for that or something. And Thompson just goes, what the fuck you're going to do with points? And I just like, because it wasn't, you know, like, I said I was watching this documentary about the history of video games other than that. So it made me think of it. For a long time, that's all video games was was points. Yeah. You just score points and you get the high score and people cared about that.

That's all it was. And I feel like it's one of those. I think the reason I've always thought about it is because he said that, and it was like it was the first time in my young, fat, dumb, and don't hit life, where I had ever thought to myself, like, oh, right, points are nothing. Like, yeah, like, Drew Carey was right. Points are just stupid. Like, they don't mean anything at all.

Yeah. And so it, like, has this, like, hidden level of relevance or whatever. And I bet he's listening right now, like, what the, he's like, it's like, Reese Bobby and Talladega, and I was, I was high when I said. when I said that. Points are everything. I don't even remember that shit. I got one just like that.

It might be just like when you realize you're dumb, you know? I got a lot of them. Usually y'all tell me and I'm like, you're right. Well, you remember it maybe because it was like, damn, I was dumb. But also you remember it because you want to remember stuff when you learn it. Mine is way less fun. But I just, I was playing AAU basketball. And, you know, I'm from Sunbrite, Tennessee.

I haven't been around a lot of black. people. But if you hit it basketball, you get to have black friends. And my friend Brandon was putting on sunscreen. And I was just looking at him. He goes, what? I was just looking at him. He goes, you think black people don't sunburn? And I was like, do black people sunburn? He goes, fuck yeah, black people sunburn, dude. And I was like, oh, right, because that, of course, I'm sure not as much or as easily. I think the reason I did that is my tan cousins wouldn't put on sunscreen. They would put on sun tan lotion. or whatever.

But I had, like, I was the pasty one, so I just associated it, you know what I mean? Anyway, after that, I just was like, oh. And then the next day of practice, it got hot. And he was like, hey, Drew, I'm really hot. Or my cheek spread? I was like, what? He was like, I'm just fucking with him.

I can't remember a specific instance of me being particularly dumb. This is one of them right now. I got a few. Yeah, go ahead. Let it rip. Let it rip. I'm kidding. But I do know.

those, I know it when it happens, and it's happened to me several times where like, I mean, something, and I'm talking about within the last year, like something. Yeah. I know we act like that's a word one, but it, to me, to me, that story was very much you being like, oh, it's salsa. That's a Spanish word. Yeah, well, it's got a, uh, uh, uh, one of them, what's it called? Accent marks.

Mexicans. Oh, I think the logo. My thing is, my thing, my thing with words, my thing with words is, is that, like, And this is surprising to probably a lot of people. Especially with the news, I read more than I watch. You know what I'm saying? So I never hear. Like, dude, I'm not, okay, okay.

I just now found out it's Kamala, not Kamala. Just now found that out. Literally. Because, first off, I do think that I've heard some people call her Kamala. But secondly, most of the time when I'm reading, when I'm digesting the news, it's reading. And I saw that. And I was like, that's Kamala.

That's what that is. Also, there's a wrestler named Kamala that spells it the same way. So my mind, there you go. So with, yeah, with Tapatio goddamn hot sauce, I look first, I probably thought it was patio, something at first. And then I seen an accent mark, and I don't know what that means because I didn't take Spanish or are smart in any way. And I just seen it.

And I was like, Tapaccio, I don't know why. And then forever, I was not only was, I was so confident that I said it in front of y'all, the biggest mistake I could have ever made. But yeah, I thought was Tapatio. What was the other? I thought something else was something different. Because I'd never heard, I'd never heard anybody caught. Mamosa.

That's an accent thing, I think. Well, and I feel like a lot of your word things, it's just like you just say words different. With that one, and I think I'm wrong from hearing you tell that story, I thought the day you realized that I kind of watched you process, oh, like, you very much know how to say Spanish words. You just hadn't realized that. that was a Spanish product.

I mean, no, I knew it was a Spanish product, but like, I just, one time I thought it was Tapacio, that was probably the first time I'd ever in my life said it out loud, because I don't ever have to say sauce's names. I buy the goddamn sauce. You know what I mean? I don't ever have to say, Amber, get me some of this sauce, because you know my ass is the one going to the grocery store,

so I just see the sauce. I just see stuff, and the letters are shapes to me. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not reading it. I'm just like, that looks like that sauce it hits for me. I don't need to fucking know what it's called. I know it's got the little dude on. Listen, if a bottle, a red shit has a fucking dude wearing a goddamn sombrero, I'm buying it.

I don't give a fuck what it's called. That's my shit. So, yeah, I think I said to pay show out loud, y'all both looked at me like, fucking what? And like in that moment, I was like, yeah, man, that's clearly wrong. There's no way that's right. But I've done fucking let the dipshit genie out of the bottle. So here we go. Well, it's funny because I objectively speaking was being dumb in that first story I told you all.

but I was thinking of like more like things that don't seem like something you would remember like for years. Oh, yeah. Ever after that. And not necessarily a dumb thing. There's another one. And this one is more visual, but I'll try to explain it for just the listeners because I think of this all the time. This one's only like three years old,

but I guarantee you I'll think of this for 20, 30 more goddamn years. We were on the road. We were flying somewhere. I don't remember it was between cities, I think. I wasn't with y'all in the airport. I was alone in the airport, and I walked through this little, like, kiosk that was in, like, the middle of the terminal

with just a bunch of little, like, Hudson News type shit, you know, magazines and whatever. God, I miss going to Hudson News. How sad is that? Pretty sad. And there was standing right in front of the cash register was this, like, 40-ish-something-year-old Karen, who was being a total Karen,

like a Midwestern Karen, just being a huge bitch to her, like 12 or 13 year old daughter, you know, just bitching about whatever, being unnecessarily just not hitting. And then in the middle of like her little tirade, she herself, the Karen, not the daughter, knocked over her stand-up luggage and her purse was on top of it. And when it fell over, everything spilled out of her purse, right, on the floor right there. That's awesome.

And I looked, I looked at that on the floor. and then I looked up, without meaning to it's just where my eyes went, and I looked up to the clerk at the cash register who was a like 19-year-old baby-faced, chubby Asian guy with like round glasses on or whatever. And he's sitting there. Like he looks dorky is what I'm saying. Yeah. With like a baby.

He looks like he's 13 years old, but he's probably 19 or something. And he's fat and he does hit though because he's, uh, anyway, I look up from the Karen catastrophe on the ground and see him. and at the time he's looking at the ground too and he just looks from the ground slowly up to make direct eye contact with me and just goes and makes like the Grinch, like the Grinch smile.

I was about to say, are you doing the Grinch right now? Because your acting classes have been paying off, bro, because I knew I was like, that's the fucking Grinch smile. That's the perfect cartoon Grinch smile. Yeah, well, that's what he did. We did not exchange any words at all. He just, I saw that, he saw that, he looked at me, did the Grinch smile, and I just went about my day.

But like, I see that dude's face in my head. It just got a memory. It pleases me every single time. It makes me happy. I just got a memory that is one that still to the, I just don't remember it still to this day every now and then will piss me off when I think about it. And this is also, this is the only interaction I've really ever had with this dude. It was just, I was spending the night with a, with a, it was really a buddy of a buddy, which is why I only interacted with his father once.

We were spending the night over at his house and it was like, I don't know, like 8.30 or 9 in the morning, like, you know, kids be sleeping longer than that. This is like middle school. Like we were going to sleep longer than that. And I remember like 8.30, I just hear like a, you know, like someone clapping above me. And it was me and a couple buddies who would spend the night and it was their dad, their bald, white-haired dad. and he just looked at us and he goes, gentlemen, I believe it's time we moved on.

In other words, get the fuck out of my house. Well, this was 8.30 in the morning, none of us had prepared a ride home with our parents or nothing. And there was no cell phones or no shit like that. And he's like,

not only saying it, he's like, you know, shepherding us out of the fucking house. I had to walk three miles back to my fucking parents out. Just because he was just like, he was ready to start his day and he'd be goddamn.

And every now and then, because his name was Dick, every now and then I'll hear of somebody's name being Dick, and I'll get that image in my mind of him just going, boys, gentlemen, I believe it's time we moved on. And I just get so goddamn furious. I'm like, really couldn't let me sleep until 11. Just couldn't do that. So yeah, it's one of those.

And I never had another experience to that guy again, but I can see it all so fucking clear. Yeah. How old were you? Like eighth grade, maybe eighth, maybe eighth grade. Yeah, something like that. Did your parents give a, the semblance of a fuck when you told them you've been forced to walk three miles home or whatever.

I mean, I remember them being like, that was a dick move. Anyways, what's happening on the Sopranos? Oh, God damn. Yeah. Yeah, like, they definitely acknowledge that they would not have in any way done that to my friends. But, you know, no, there was no phone call place to the dick residence. Hell no. They were just glad my ass had to walk three miles.

It's good. You probably didn't get caught doing something and that's what you get. Fuck you. Hello, this is the dick resident. Yeah, we wanted to thank you for making our kid exercise. Yeah, could you murder him next time? He's a piece of shit, and we hate him. We think he's on drugs already.

I mean, I definitely have flashball memories like that, for sure. One, I'll never forget. My brother friends were hanging out, and Curtis LaRue told a jacking off joke. I didn't know what jacking off was. I was like in fifth grade, and I kind of fake laughed when they did. You know what I mean? Like, uh-huh, that was a joke, you know? And he knew, like his face.

change. I can remember his face changing and he went, Drew don't know what jacking off means and his face lit up. And Curtis was like two years younger than my brother, so two years older than me. So he was in between and he always was trying to be cooler to them by like picking on me. Anyway, I'll never fucking forget it. I burn that. I hate that, dude. That era, that age of boys is just the worst like to be hanging out with.

Like that reminds me of a, I remember when I was in sixth grade, I was playing football. And I remember the first day of like, you're going down. and this is like this is the first time we was ever like changing in front of boys you know what I mean like we didn't do that shit in wreck but this is middle school so we're gonna go in here and take showers and shit it's where not quick it comes right it's like too soon no nudity kid nudity no nudity it's bad and then everybody gets your dicks out yeah I'm not for it um not for it at all so anyways I remember the first day um I was going to take my pants off and then a couple other boys took their pants off and they had like hell of dick hair especially some of the eighth hairs and I didn't and I didn't have a no dick hair eating at all. Like I've only had any hair for about a four year period in my life. I had some hair and then it all just kind of started not hitting now. I mean, God damn, my butt, my ball bush is something else, but I ain't got it up here. Anyways, I digress about how much I don't hit. But anyways, and I was like, oh my God, I can't pull my pants down because they've all got, they've all got hitting bushes and my bush don't hit. And so I just put

my gym shorts on and I ran out and I went home and like, you know, my parents were like, why you still stink? Why didn't you take a shower? And I told him why. My dad was like, oh, hell, son, nobody cares about stuff like that. Just go in there and be proud and take your pants off and let them know.

You're not scared. And I saw, I was like, oh, dad's right. And I fucking go in there and I take my pants off and I've got my little fucking just, you know, albino turtle dick hanging out. And they made so much fun of me.

And I cried. And my dad was so wrong. They totally cared. Like, he's like, no, they won't say shit. And like,

yes, they did. Like, I got made fun of. of so fucking bad. I got a dick one. Yeah, man. The dick ones,

Trey, you got a dick one? Dick Flash memory? Why you think about your dick as a little kid? It was 4-H camp and I wasn't in junior high yet. I was in fourth or fifth grade, but there were older kids there. There was a range of kids. And I saw my first grown-up dick on a little kid.

I remember that. Dude named Scott and like, you know, took his pants off. He'd already hit puberty. is what I mean. Oh, okay. And I was, and like,

it was like, he had a chunky dick. Like, I don't know how I was to describe it. The boy was bulbous in many ways. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Harry, and I just remember being like, am I remember seeing it and thinking his bit was like a hot dog and then feeling bad for having that thought. Like, I remember being like,

you're not supposed to think dicks are hot dogs. I saw my, I saw my middle school gym teacher who was one of the harrys man alive, completely butt-necked, except for he was covered in, uh, pie.

And that didn't hit. but yeah, we'd, uh, it was like field day, you know, and like, so we'd done all this. And then he got pie, like, you know, they had the dunkin tanks or whatever. And then they had a thing where like, if you do this, you can pie a teacher or whatever, which, which by the way, which for the record, let me say it always, it used to always piss me. I remember getting in trouble one time for arguing with the teachers because I was like, this ain't pie. This is a plate of whipped cream. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't say we're, so funny. It's what you were just, you were not. Letting that.

High integrity. Because my, well, here was my thing. The reason that I argued about it the first time, God damn it, this don't get no better. Was that? It was a raffle. And if you won the raffle, you got to pie the teacher. And I was trying to lobby for, can I just keep the pie? Yeah, right.

Like, I was like, I don't have hate in my heart for any of these teachers. Like, let me just keep the pie. And they're like, well, it's not a pie. It's just whipped cream on a plate. And I was like, well, you need to fucking call it that then. because this is bullshit. So anyways, they pie the teacher or whatever,

and I guess I had to go, like, get my shorts or whatever to go home, and I get in there, and Coach Culberson is just, I'm talking like he looks like Harry from Harry in the Henderson's, butt-necked,

so hairy, except for he's just covered in pie. But, like, the only place that's not covered in pie, obviously, is just his fucking, just dick, man. I was like six or seventh grade,

and that was not it. That is not what I wanted to see. And I can still, like, Like, I barely remember, like, my first kiss, but I can see his fucking fat, hairy dick with all this fucking pie, just whipped cream on him, like, uh, don't hit. You know how weird blackface looked? It was that, but white.

It was the opposite. It was like a, it was like a picture negative of, of fucking Ted dancing at the roast club in 92. Like, it was, it sucked. I didn't, don't hit. And I've still got it in my head. Yeah. Weird. I feel like Jason Baitman and the rest of the development right now,

with that dead dove in the bag because, like, weirdly, I didn't expect it to go to flashbulb dick memories at all, but, like, I don't know what I expected. Like, of course. Of course, that's where it went. Yeah. Well, I was like, man, I'm going to tell this story

of this dude, the first man dick I saw on a young person making me think of hot dogs. I feel a little insecure about this story. I had to be funny. Let me tell it. And then immediately, oh, yeah, hot dog dick? But let me tell you about pie penis. It's just, it's up there for me, man. Drew, you, uh, you've been to Europe and shit.

Uh, will you, uh, will you, uh, will you know about gypsies? Okay. Here we go. I know why you're asking this. You want me to go first or do you want to just tell me your perspective for why I'm bringing this up? Uh, it's the thing I saw on Reddit. I'm just, I'm very curious, genuine curiosity.

I mean, I've got opinions, but I want to hear Greg. I know. The Romany people. were displaced and traveled. I'm about to get ignorant because I don't know generally the rest of it,

but my understanding is the Romani people were displaced. I think it was by war and famine. And they traveled across Europe looking for places to settle. And in France, the word for Egyptian was close to gypsy.

And people thought they were Egyptian, the Romani people. So they started calling the Romani people gypsies. and all it meant at that time was Egyptian. That's their Indians? Kind of, yeah. And, well, in a lot of ways it's similar to that

because the reason I say in a lot of ways it's similar to Indian is because now, Gypsy has a different meaning for a lot of people culturally. For a lot of people, it just means like a traveling vagabond type. For a lot of Romney people, they say that Gypsy is slur because it's not their real name and because it's been associated with traveling and, quote, stealing and nastiness.

And they're like, our ancestors were fucking displaced, place. They were traveling and quote unquote nasty because they were running from war. But other Romani people say, no, that's our word now. And it's fine for you to say that I'm a gypsy. And then other people separate from that say don't call Romney gypsies, but you're allowed to say gypsy. Other people say don't ever say gypsy. That's a slur. Okay. The reason I ask is because I've never been to Europe. I'm poor white trash. I don't know shit. I don't know shit about gypsies really at all. I'm vaguely aware of,

Like I like the band, Go Go Bordello, you know, like I, and I just finished Peaky Blinders. But let me be clear, before you get in trouble, you're not supposed to call the Romany people gypsies. I'm not calling anybody gypsies. I'm saying, I barely even know what gypsies are very vaguely. And I know there's like a thing in Europe, when parents telling their kids, like,

I'm going to give you the gypsies or something. That's about all I know about gypsies. Yeah. So anyway, but I was on red. it the other day and they got off on a tangent. I bet they had some really enlightening thoughts about they got on a tangent. It was in a, I think it was, I don't remember the source post, but it wasn't about Europe or gypsies or anything, but they got off on a tangent in there about how horribly a lot of Europeans think about and towards and treat gypsies, right? And there were a lot of Americans

in there who don't know much about it, who were, who were drawing the comparison to racism in this country. They're like, oh, that sounds familiar. Yeah, Americans certainly know something about that, you know, our issues of racism. And there were all these Europeans, like, responding to that, like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, it's nothing. It's nothing like the racism you guys have in America. It's nothing like that at all.

And they would try to justify it. And all of their justifications for why it wasn't like racism. Racism seemed to basically boil down to. The Gipzig's don't hit. Exactly. It's like, no, it's nothing like your racism at all. You don't understand. There's a huge difference.

Here's what you got to understand. Jipsies don't hit. Like, it's crazy. You're not getting about this. Culturally speaking, they don't hit. They're not raised to hit. It's part of their, it's part of how they grow up. Like, it's just, they can't even help.

but it's just how they are. Not realizing that every American is like, yeah, we've heard this origin story. And every single American is like, how do you not understand how this sounds exactly the same, man? This literally happened. Two different times in Australia, two different people. Opening question.

Well, racism, Mike. What's that lock? Yeah. I don't know. You want to talk about the aboriginal? Yeah. And how you treat them? and then literally what you just described.

No, no, no, no. You don't understand, Drew. They are drunk. They like to live in the desert on the land we let them. That's how they prefer to live because they don't like to bathe and stuff. No, no, no, no, Drew. We make them live out there because they're all rapists.

Like, it was unreal. I was like, what the fuck is happening right now? And all I can figure out is through culture, like rap and music and stuff like that, the world has decided that black Americans hit. Which they do. They do. Right. So our racism towards them is wrong. Right.

But their own racism towards their people is fine because their people don't hit. Because they don't hit. I mean, I mean, you know, I've never seen like a blockbuster movie about the plot of the Aborigines. Yeah. The closest we had was a, uh, a, okay. and Crocodile Dundee. And, yeah. And like, I mean, and if there was like a, you know,

whoever the Tupac of the Aborigines is, I've never heard his, I've never heard his track about how, you know, I see no changes, which I'm sure that I just don't, they don't let me hear a lot of aborigine shit over here is what I'm saying. Yeah, but the Romani people did involve themselves in and help create a lot of culture that frankly was probably stolen

and bastardized by the Europeans who are now continuing to shit on them. My view on the Ronny's, and I don't think everyone holds this. To me, it is very analogous in a lot of ways in terms of their place in the, not their place in the world, but like how we treat them to Native Americans. We just called them Indians. They weren't Indians. In my opinion, saying the word Indian now isn't a slur.

But if you say something like Indian giver, then that's the fucking double whammy there. But if a Native American person told me, don't call me Indian, call me Native, I would happily be like, Of course. That's fine. And so if a Romney person was like, I'm not a fucking gypsy, I'm Romney, I'd be like, okay, cool. But for me, I don't think the words of slur, but people do disagree with that. Very vehemently, I have discovered through our band Gypsy stuff. Also, of course, we suck at naming stuff.

We don't hit. That's hilarious. God damn it. That didn't even occur to me at all. No, me either. Me either. Because that word to me growing up meant, like I thought of a white girl, first of all. And look, I can see how this is back.

bro. Right, but I can see how that's bad. I can totally see the argument of like, yeah. You're white watching it. So you're saying that you took a whole culture, made it into a white thing and you made it stinky and high. No. I'll tell you like for real. Like there's, I think somebody had a bit about this or like it was an episode of TV or something. But like genuinely, I think there's a lot of people that didn't know gypsies was a thing other than like they genuinely thought that like gypsies was just a fig, like Esmeralda for. from hunchback in Notre Dame. Like they thought, I think they think the word gypsy, it means the same as like,

wizard. I'm not kidding. Like, I'm not saying, there is a bunch of people who, like, somebody had a bit, I swear to God,

or like, I've seen a show that they were like, oh, they had just learned that the word, like, hey, you jipped me on that. They just learned that was a slur. And they're like,

wait, how is that a slur? And they're like, well, the gypsies, that, it's similar to like, you jued me down,

but they was saying the gypsies were cheap. So if you jip me and they were like, okay, so what are the elves offended by? And they're like, they're like, wait, I need you to tell me that you know that gypsies are a real type of people. And they're like, I'm sure they are in Morador. What's that from? I can't remember, but this is, but this is exactly how it played out. Now I know it's not a bit. It's like, it's definitely, it's not community because I didn't fuck with community.

I need to, but it's definitely there was some show. And I remember, because I remember dying laughing. And I remember being like, I definitely at one point thought that. Like I didn't then because like, you know, I've seen, I've no stuff. I'll be my brain's better than it used to be. But like, there's no way as, yeah, clearly. In middle school, I'm certain that I probably thought gypsies and fucking, you know, Merlin was the same shit.

Just because like the only time I'd ever heard about it was in a movie where they was just wearing gold and turning motherfuckers into gargoy. oils. I mostly just... Which is a big part of why it's, you know... Offensive. Yes. No, I know.

I'm not trying to justify it. I'm just saying, but like I think some people, it's genuine, like, ignorance. They're not trying to be dickheads. What's funny, because I thought also ignorant, and mostly because of fucking the movie Snatch, uh, I think, I thought that gypsies were like, just basically their white trash. Yeah. They got the caravans, you know, they're like, the trailer people. Yeah.

So, like, if anything, I had like an affinity for gypsy. Of course, yeah, they hit. That's just their version of our people, which that is not accurate. And I didn't know that. I'm not saying that it didn't get to a point in European culture, because I don't know,

where any traveling group of people were just called gypsies irrespective of anything else, because that's what that word became to mean. I just know that the origin was the Romney people were at some point called gypsies, which is a variation of the French word, They literally, somebody literally thought they were Egyptian, which in and of itself is racist, you know? Yeah.

It's like Indian. Ah, you're Indians. Yeah, you're Egyptians. Exactly. But, so it's like hard for me to go, well, the word gypsy is in and of itself offensive because it just means Egyptian. Right. And they're not. But then once you start breaking down, like the history of it, it's like, oh, fuck.

Well, all right. It's a bad way. I guess, I guess our band is now, now just called the boat. which is fine. I'm going to get in trouble for this, but I think our band in my heart is still called Gypsy Speedboat because they're racist. Our band is a band from the 1970s

that all died in a motorcycle accident, one motorcycle, the whole band. That's true. So they were called Gypsy Speedboat, but they didn't mean it in any bad way. We now look at them, we place them in history, and we're not proud the fact that they call them, You can't, you can't rewrite it.

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this week, one of my favorite dudes in the world here to talk a little about his libertarian calls in Wyoming and also to promote his movie Killer Raccoons 2, which has cameos by all three of the well-read boys. Guys, here's Travis Irvine. Share, download, subscribe, and tell your friends. We love you, Skihoo. What are you doing in Wyoming? I'm doing Libertarian Party stuff again, just like four years ago, where we're trying to get Republicans to vote libertarian instead of Republican. And it's more of a state level.

It's for state house races. So we can we can yap about that. We can reminisce about 2016 and fear for November, if you guys are. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, definitely want to do some politics since you're here. but also like there's all

kinds of shit I could get into with you about the making of that movie and everything. Yep. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Rackons too.

Where do you want to start? Like you want to, do you want to start with that? You want to start with just some bullshitting and we'll get to that a little later? It's up to you guys. Honestly, I'm prepared for whatever.

I've kind of done it both ways. We start with raccoons and get on the other stuff where we start politics. and then go to raccoons. So what do you think, Joe? I mean, let me adjust my light a little bit. The only thing I'll say just from how I know it normally goes,

if we want to touch on raccoons, we probably need to do that first. Because if we start talking politics, there's a good, which I want to, but there's a good chance that like we won't be able to shift from politics to talking about raccoons as easily as we would be able to shift from raccoons to talk about politics if that makes sense. Sounds good to me. Like I think once we start going down that, like this, this is what we're going to be doing for the rest of the time.

Yeah. Speaking of time, Irvine, we're going to try to do about 30 here. Oh, great. That's great. Yep. Perfect. I got to go knock on redneck's doors in an hour. What part of why I'm in are you in?

I'm in Casper today. I've been to Casper. Yeah. And then we've been in Riverton, Saratoga, and Rock Springs. Oh, man. And then we go to South Dakota later this week. Oh, good for you doing the Lord's work. Something like that.

Yeah. These people are crazy. They're a different breed out there, man, but the sweet ones are sweeter than pie. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Laramie was a lot of fun. That was probably my favorite. It's the most liberal city in Wyoming.

I found that, I found that like the Wyoming, like, you know, like they, when I was up there, they were like, oh, you're from the south, you know, southern hospitality, yada, yada. and I felt it, I felt it way more in Wyoming than I really like ever, because up there, like we have it down here, but it's still kind of like a, oh, we're taking care of you, but like we're definitely judging you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Almost to your face sometimes, just being kind of tongue and cheek about it. But in Wyoming, it just, the nice people were just nice.

I guess what it is is that they're not as religious, really is what it is. Like, they're equally sweet, but they don't have as much God. So it's just, hey, stay on my porch and fuck my daughter or whatever. like it doesn't matter. Maybe they just haven't seen anybody months. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're different,

please just stay on my porch. It's fine. Yeah. Right. Well, well, shit, here we are.

Here we are. Here we are. We are here with a friend of the podcast. Y'all know him. Y'all love him. Mr. Travis Irvine. You talk about a multi-haffinant,

this guy, political improsario, stand-up comedian, extraordinaire, and also writer and director, writer and director of the number one comedy in America is what I heard. It's called Killer Raccoons 2, Dark Christmas in the Dark. Travis Irvine, everybody.

What's up? Hello, boys. It's going to be back with you, virtual or otherwise. And I just say to every other listening, the movie is as funny as the title, which is fucking hilarious. Yes. Yes. And I'll just add to all your listeners, it is the number one new comedy in America because

it is the only new comedy in America. You're goddamn right. So by default, baby, we did it. All it took was a global pandemic and an economic meltdown. I was very curious if you were going to bury the lead or just rock with it, you know? I'm rock. I will continue to bring that up. We're number one and not even explain it.

I've never been number one in anything. I've run for office three times. I always come in the last place. Except when I ran for mayor, I beat the gay guy and the high school kid. So I got six place. So, all right, let's get into it. At one point, first of all, it's Killer Raccoons 2. Yes.

Yeah, we didn't get a call for Killer Raccoons 1. We were just in Killer Raccoons 2. Yeah, I made that one in college, and we actually didn't call it Killer Raccoons, although in hindsight we definitely should have. It's a Trauma Entertainment movie. If you know Trauma, they do all the B, C, even D, Schlocky movies.

And I think we're in the C category, because we called ours Coons, Night of the Bandits of the Night. It's a real movie. It's actually the 15th anniversary of it this year when we shot it in college. And yeah, it was like a 15-year Forrest Gump moment where we just slowly but surely are like, I guess we probably shouldn't have called it Coons. Yeah. For us, we always, we just want to live in a world where the word Coons only means raccoons.

Raccoons. Right. And that's all it should mean. So I got so many questions. you go do you go to ohio state i went to ohio university which is in appalachia the the piece of appalachia that goes through ohio okay i knew you're ohio guy did you know bryson didn't bryson turner go to ohio bryson turner and i were in the same comedy troupe in fact we were in the same comedy class and we were the only two comedy people at ohio university in two wow what a small world yeah yeah um

So how in the hell did you end up making a trauma horror movie about Coons, about killer Coons? Like, how the fuck did that even happen? Well, that is, that is, that's going to make me dip into the memory bank. But it all started, spring break, 2004. I was out camping with the comedy troupe in Florida. I had just seen my first zombie movie, the remake of Donner. of the dead, the new one with Ving Rhames. And we had just seen that. And we were camping in Florida that night. And raccoon started to attack the camp's food. And it was very strategic. And there was

like one on one side of the camp. And he was making the squeaky raccoon sounds to the other one. And I may or may not have consumed quite a bit of what the kids called grass back then. And I looked at my buddy. I was like, man, has anyone ever made a killer raccoon movie? And this was before, you know, smartphone. So I had to wait until I was back in my dorm room to get on the, the desktop and log in an Internet Explorer and ask Jeeves and search, see if there's ever been a killer raccoon movie.

And there wasn't. So I got to work. And now here we are, 15 years later. Yeah, but see, right. I mean, that answer doesn't surprise me, but that's just such a Travis Irvine experience right there. Like, I've been high. You know what I mean?

High ideas I've had, you know what I mean? Getting to a goddamn one of them. They ain't done a goddamn one of them. You quit with killer raccoons and just ended up with not one but two movies, 15 years later, but like, that's just wild. And all right, so we don't have to dwell too much on the OG coons because, you know, we're here to talk about the sequel. Right.

At what point did you decide you were going to give the people what they were waiting for and the much asked for, much clamored after sequel to Coons with Killer Raccoons 2? When did you decide to pursue that? And then I've got some additional questions. Sure, absolutely. Keep the follow-ups following up. Well, we made the movie in college for $5,000 and seven dead frozen raccoons, which we obviously got for $0 from a pest, pest,

exterminator. What was his name? Oh, you can guess it. His name was Dirk, of course. I was going to say Randy. Did you pitch the trauma and they gave you the fight? Like, how did that? Because no, no, this was all independent college initiative. This was, you know, this was going to friends and family asking for money. So you got it made and then they wanted it. Well, yeah. Okay, you're going to friends is one thing. I could see you being like, Hey, I was high and I want to make this killer raccoon movie. What is the... I left out the high part, but yes.

Okay, right. But like, what does that... When you're going to family, what's that pitch look like? Give me the Travis Irvine elevator pitch to the grandma with maybe a little bit of money to give away before she goes on. Like, I want to hear that. Oh, it's easy. Grandma, this is part of my education.

I want to make movies someday, but the only way I can make this movie is if you give me $500. There you go. All right. You do that 10 times and you're... Well, you're set for a college movie. Yeah. Not for anything.

$500 and or a dead raccoon. Whatever comes first. I like that Patreon tier, you know, for the low payment of $10 a month or three dead raccoons. Yeah, we will send you a dead frozen raccoon. Yeah, there's plenty of them out there. I mean, in Ohio, they're pests. So pest companies are required to kill them. They gas them, they freeze them to make sure they're disease free.

and then they literally throw them away. So I was interviewing a raccoon expert at Ohio State. And I was like, I was just going to use taxidermy raccoons, make it really fun and silly like a puppet show. And he's like, oh, that's $600 a pot. I don't know if you can afford that. I'm like, I definitely can't. And he was like, but check this out.

And it just turns out that dead frozen raccoons are a famous prank played amongst the biologist community. Like they will get dead frozen raccoons, put them in fun positions. and then like leave them in each other's like cars and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. I've seen, I've seen pictures of dead raccoons like smoking cigarettes and beers and stuff.

So that's probably what that is. That's awesome. That's exactly what it is. It also, in my opinion, is a very Irvine thing. That's unbelievable. You had this high idea for a killer raccoon movie and then turns out there's a whole subculture where they're just literally giving away dead frozen raccoon. son, you know what I mean?

He falls ass backwards into raccoons, dude. I'm not right. But if it had been like, you know, I don't know, like fucking squirrels, killer squirrels or something, and maybe the squirrel people have been like, oh, it's going to be tough to get a dead frozen squirrel. But if you can make do with dead frozen raccoons, I can get you a truckload by three.

Yep, yep. Up to my ass and dead raccoons, son. Yeah. If you want a squirrel guy, I got to go all the way to Omaha. But fucking raccoons? That ain't it. They call my brother. Yeah. No, we had we had seven, seven of them, six tiny ones and one big one that we called the Mama.

And I don't want to spoil the first movie, which is, by the way, available on Troma Entertainment's. Their streaming page, which is tromonauton.com. And I believe still on their Amazon page, Troma's channel on Amazon. But we had this big- I'm buying it tonight. Absolutely. I'm running it down right now. Write it down right now. And that Mama Raccoon.

How do you spell trauma for our listeners out there? T-R-O-M-A. It is, they are cult entertainment all the way. They did the Toxic Avenger. Oh, dude, I love Toxy. Yeah, all kinds of that stuff. That's where James Gunn got his start. It was working with that.

Trey Parker, Matt Stone got their start there too. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. I forgot. I didn't know how to spell it either, but I do want to call it how funny that looked. You go, now for our listeners, and then he started spelling it, and you were like, Yeah, I was typing it. Yeah, for sure.

I didn't fucking know either. Honestly, I kind of thought it was. trauma until like two years ago. Dude, I can't spell words that I've heard a million times. So like I damn sure I ain't just like going to wing it with some fucking cult movie bullshit that they probably spelled with like a question mark or something.

I didn't, exactly. I didn't know about Trey and Matt get to start there. Yeah, they, trauma distributed their college movie, which was Alfred Packer, the musical, which then trauma changed to cannibal, the musical. Because Alfred Packer is just kind of a niche

Colorado thing. Much in the same way Troma begged us to change the name of our movie, just Killer Raccoons, night of the bandits of the night. But, yeah, it was a journey, and it became a cult movie over the years, thanks to Troma, thanks to that trauma audience. So in about 2006, we had the idea of if we ever made a sequel, ever, right?

This was like right after I graduated from Ohio University. On TBS that night was a beautiful action movie called Under Siege 2 Dark Territory, which is, I saw it when I was 12 years old, and I could tell it was bad at 12 years old. And that came on. And, you know, me and the boys that we just made, we had just finished Coons and we had just graduated. And we looked up with the TV.

And the ideas started to get planted that if we ever made a sequel to Coons and made Coons too, we'd put it on a train and make it an entire under siege to parody. Homage. Parity, the whole thing. and that was 2006, and everyone kind of shut up about it for about seven years until 2013. I was hanging with the guys who were in the cast, the guys that Everything is Terrible.com, who were a lot of the original cast members of the first movie. And we were shooting something in Chicago, 2013, and they were like,

so when are we making Coons 2? And I was like, what? You guys still want to do that? So we picked up what the kids called some grass and watched Under Siege 2 that night, and that's when I started to put together the script again and kind of piece that together. So I got the script done in 2015, started raising the money by 2017, and we shot it all in December 2017. And then we got it done over the years, 2018, 2019, and now 2020.

These things take years. Holy shit, is that when we recorded our parts, 2017? 2018 was when you guys did. Yeah, absolutely. That seems like literally just yesterday. I actually, I've still got those files on my computer and every now and then I'll like, I'll be, I'll be playing something else on my computer and then I'll leave for like an hour or two and I'll come back and put my headphones on and it has got to all the way back to. And it never doesn't crack me up because I've got the raw stuff where we had a bunch of outtakes that I need to. Yeah, your guys outtakes were great. I wanted to use every, every bit of it. You guys nailed the part though.

Thank you. Yeah, thanks, buddy. So, like, all right. How do you, like, when you're actually going, like, shooting the thing in December or whatever, over that period of time, I mean, you're the director, so you sort of like running everything. Is this like a friends and family situation again, like in terms of, you know, your crew, the equipment, just getting it all done and even knowing what the hell you're doing? I know you did the first one and you've had a lot of other projects too.

but like how do you even go about wrapping your arms around something like that to begin with? Well, we knew we would need more money because we had to pay people. You know, we're not in college anymore. We got to buy people food. We got to put people up. We got to get good equipment. So there was two things, three things. I say there was three things to make sure we got to make this happen.

Number one, I had to call Dirk again. And I literally called Dirk. And I was like, hey, Dirk, it's Travis. You gave me a bunch of dead friends. Hey, Dirt, you remember me? I've been waiting on this phone call for 14 goddamn years. Yeah. Where are you being?

Yeah, I imagine Dirk turning around in a swivel chair when you walk in the door, just holding all the raccoons and we've been here the whole time. That's funny. We've been here. We've been waiting for you. No, he literally was, I told him, I was like, yeah, he gave me dead frozen raccoons 12 years ago. And he was like, oh, yeah, how'd that go? And I was like, pretty good.

We're doing it again. He wasn't at the premiere? What do you mean? How'd that go? What the fuck are you talking about? He didn't even know that we finished it and then it was a cult movie or anything. I think he's an AOL email and he lives in Delaware, Ohio. So I know.

I am. Say no more. You know what I mean. I know what you mean. So we got the, we made sure we had the raccoons. The second thing we needed was a train because under siege two is almost entirely on a train. Right. About 75% of it.

And there's this beautiful, just antique, old-fashioned train. They do train rides for each. Easter and Christmas. You guys have probably seen those things around. And we had one in Nelsonville, Ohio, which is right by where I went to school in Athens, Ohio at Ohio University. And I was in touch with them probably since 2015 about coming down and trying to shoot a movie there. In 2017, we nailed the pitch. I went in and pitched it to the board. We went down and they had this whole engine house where you could fit a whole train car into the engine house and then we can have our crew and our lights on the train it can all

be inside so you know we're shooting in the winter during christmas time because it is a Christmas wow that's rough in a Christmas movie there a couple days that are rough but we were nice and warm inside this engine house so if it wasn't for that and and the fact that they gave it to us for about $25 a day we just had to tip the guy who moved the train cars and stuff um those two things made it made it possible and then uh and then we were raised 50 grand to kind of get through the thing now you guys know movie projects go we probably to raise like 25 grand for the the train shoot in December 2017 and we raised another five for reshoots and then another five to shoot stuff in L.A. with a lot of our mutual comedy friends

and then you go to so you raise it in chunks you know at the end of the day we we got about 50 grand to do this thing and it was just the Ohio independent filmmaker spirit We got a lot of people. We had about, we had like 12, 15 interns from Ohio University, all working for college credit. And, you know, I slept on a couch for two weeks at my buddies, who was also the star of the movie. And, you know, that's just how you do it. It was, it's like it wasn't, it was in between. It wasn't the professional filmmaking.

And it wasn't college filmmaking. Right. Somewhere in between. Yeah, you had a budget. You had an actual set. That's, you know, that's pretty. Yeah. And good equipment, good cameras.

There was a deep knowledgeable crew who knew how to work fast and inefficiently. So it was a big undertaking. And we've all said we can never do a movie like this ever again because it'll completely wear us out. I mean, post-production, unusually enough, took way longer than I thought. I mean, it was all of 2018, about half of 2019, before we got this thing to a distributor. And even then, they were like, you got to fix some things. So you don't, you don't foresee. feature a killer raccoons three like on a boat like as an homage to speed too bro there will be

a trash pandas three moon base on the moon and it'll be all sci-fi homage just to star wars you know last was a return of the jeddice star track three search for spock and aliens three which is david finchers for a studio movie which was a disaster most people say yeah so uh so you can look forward to that fall into a volcano with holding the raccoon in its chest cavity. The whole thing, man. The whole thing. Got the climax right there. Yeah.

Yeah. I was going to say, Return of the Jedi works well with it too because I was going to have some e-walks. There's going to be like friendly raccoons and there's going to be like evil raccoons in the third one. That's great. Yeah. Already got it planned out. My man.

I pretty much, here's how it starts. An asteroid hits the big trash pile in the Atlantic Ocean and treas. Ashwater floods the coast. Who loves trash and water raccoons? It writes itself. It really does. Yeah.

And then the government's station a moon based on the moon. So there you go. I'm there. So you mentioned earlier, number one new comedy in America because of the situation. But like, where's it all?

Like, you know, you've got it all over the place. Where can people find this masterpiece? You can find it. on iTunes and Amazon I'm told her the easiest and most profitable but it is also on all kinds of cable networks, dish TV

direct TV I mean whatever your cable network is they have a movie section and you can rent it or buy it from there as well so I can I think I sent you guys some links there's so many links where you can

find it I always kind of tell me it's everywhere and nowhere because it's not on like net Netflix or anything like that. But it is findable. And then there will be a DVD release in October as well. And then we want to do another push, obviously, for the holidays. If things are opening up, that would be great. I know we're screening in Cleveland this coming weekend, August the 28th.

So if you're near Chagrin Falls in Cleveland, which I don't know who is. We have a ton of fans in that little pocket. The chagrin falls. In the well the greater The greater chagrin area I should say We all need more chagrin

Yeah In our lives Well hell yeah man That's awesome And I got again just The level of Fucking respect Brother for

Without a doubt Completing not one but two Killer Raccoon movies It's just off the charge for me Like that's fucking awesome Last time me and Craig got high, we couldn't even finish watching a movie. Right. So, yeah, that's awesome.

Full-length features. Yeah. Unlegged features. It's hard. And what's so crazy is it's so much work to get it done. And then, you know, you're always guaranteed at least 30% of the people to see it are going to fucking hate it. Which is a guarantee. All of our reviews.

And it's the same for the first movie. It's all 10 stars or one star. It's all people are like, I love it. I get it. And I'm going to show it. my family and then the other people are like this is not a real movie yeah it's one right it definitely seems like it's one of those things where people are either like they're either on board or they're not and if they're on board they fucking love it they're all about it and if they're not they're like

fuck this yeah that that's why we try to make the titles like drew was saying as silly as possible so people understand what they're getting into right right they turn it on well i for one am fully in and i think everybody should go check it out it was also the well-read comment Trio's debut as voice actors, at least as a trio. So, I mean, if only for that part of history, that little bit of trivia, if you really want to be a part of something bigger than yourself, and I know that we all do, then you need to go check out Killer Raccoons, too. Absolutely.

But we're not letting Travis go just yet. If y'all remember his previous appearances on the show, this guy knows his shit, politics-wise, and he's got a lot of connections and experience in the world of libertarianism. and we could just get into all of it. You're in Wyoming right now, spreading the gospel of libertarianism among the good people of the, I have no idea what state Wyoming is.

It ain't big sky. What are they called Wyoming? Remember us? We're still here, Stan. How's that going, buddy? You know, it's very interesting. You know, I mean, like a lot of us, I mean, COVID, I had big L.A. dreams to be there with you

and you guys train Druid out in L.A. and those got fizzled out by COVID. I was in Ohio for long enough, but what's happening here is a thing called the Frontier Project that the Libertarian Party is sponsoring. And instead of throwing all of our money, weight, and energy into a presidential campaign that is going to be doomed, you know, to get blamed for whoever wins,

which is always what happens. We're putting our resources into local elections. And in this case, we're running locally elected officials for the state house. And a state like Wyoming, everybody just votes Republican all the time and all these Republicans keep running on a post. So in Wyoming, the Libertarians have good ballot access.

And we've got four or five races here. I think it's even more, but we're focusing specifically on four or five where we've got... I'd say in Wyoming, it's only two or three. All right, fair enough. But we are working on a couple of statehouse races where it's libertarian and the Republican.

And the Democrats and unaffiliates and independents are probably going to go for libertarian and then our job is to try to pull a few more Republicans with us and start trying to turn the state legislature in a more libertarian direction instead of this Trumpy authoritarian Republican direction that we've seen in the last four years. So, you know, it kind of doubles down and I think what we talked about even four years ago in that, you know, short of having multi-party system in this country, which I wish we had, I wish we had a parliament system where we had five, seven legitimate, credible political parties.

They're great. Yeah, but short of that, I want to see the libertarians, all these Ron Paul kids take over the right. And I love seeing all these progressives and Bernie kids take over the left. Because at the end of the day, progressives and libertarians have worked on issues we agree on since 9-11. You know, you look back at who voted against the Patriot Act and who voted against Iraq War is Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders in the Congress and guys like Russ Feingold and Lincoln, Chafee, in the Senate. So that's kind of what this is. it's trying to pull all these Republicans, especially in a place like Wyoming,

more in a libertarian direction, stop making them realize that the Republicans don't necessarily have their best interests at heart. Oh, I'm going. Oh, it's failing. It's failing miserably. What are you talking about?

I've been, I've been threatened with guns. Oh, yeah. You'll have that. Guys have me tell me that come in and sleep with their wife in front of them. I'm just like, the Wyoming's crazy. That should be their new state slogan.

Yeah, I was going to say, I'm seeing the through line here, whether it's sort of trauma films or libertarianism. You really like things that are great as long as you don't take them too seriously. Yeah, I'd say that's fair. I mean, you know, there's big things. I mean, this entire defund the police movement, I mean, libertarians are marching in the streets with progresses on this. I mean, this is something I've been talking about the last few months.

I've been writing about it. I don't understand how conservatives don't understand that, you know, a multi-million dollar police force beating people up and killing people, murdering people. That's like, that's like the definition of big government running up. They understand it. They're just okay with it.

They're just, well, that's, yeah, I mean, every now and then you're like, well, you know, a broken clock. You know what I'm saying?

A broken clock. So, yeah, now they fucking get it. That part just hits for them. you know, so I don't give a shit. It's so strange. I mean, I credit where credits do,

libertarians are out there, you know, at least in Ohio. That's, I mean, we were all out there marching against the Columbus police. So I'm sure, you know, if you guys have a chance in L.A., right? I mean, L.A., L.A., did they defund some of their police?

Did they end up doing some cuts? They did some cuts. Yeah. It was a drop in the bucket for most people. But they've been working on the sheriff's department. I mean, dude, even from before all the shit that went down recently with Brianna Taylor and George Floyd, they've been camping out in front of Jackie Lacey, the DA's office for months even before that. And they've got some, they've made some strides

with that movement even before this stuff. Right. I mean, that's a whole other aspect of it. You know, it's not just the cops, it's the whole system. So it's the DAs. It's the prosecutors. You've got to start getting, you know, more progressives and a little bit of Aryans elected to these offices. It's, you know, Justin Amash is the only libertarian congressman right now. And he, they ended up getting with Democrats, with the Democratic majority in Congress, they end up getting, uh, ending qualified immunity passed. Because that's, that's a whole other aspect that, you know, it's, it's not even a written law. It's just a Supreme Court case from 1967 where cops, as long as they're doing their job, no civil charges can ever be brought against them. that means no wrongful death that means no suing for any type of compensation um you know it's the justice

system in this country i'm sure you guys all know and your listeners all know is so messed up and it's so scaled against working people and people of color um and it's just it's something we got to change i don't know how long it's going to take but we got to do it yeah go ahead i was going to ask talk to people out there who are very, I would say a lot of our fans, skeptical of anyone claiming to be libertarian and libertarian politicians in general because they align with the right, because they don't trust Ron Paul, etc, et cetera, talk a little bit about what the libertarian platform is as it relates to the justice system or any other issues you want to. Oh, sure.

I mean, when I ran for governor in 2018, criminal justice was a huge part of my platform. I mean, we had an opioid crisis in Ohio that, you know, they keep both parties, Democrats and Republicans, treat like it's a criminal problem. And at the end of the day, addiction and addiction to drugs specifically, it's not something you can just throw people in jail and hope they get better. Addiction is a health problem. And I think that's what the BLM movement has really exposed, too. It's like in a city like Columbus, Ohio, where we spend $360 million on our politics. least, which is 37% of the city's budget. And then you look at what we spend on public health, and it's, you know, two to five percent of the city's budget. And it's the same on a state level.

You know, we got a multi-billion dollar prison system in the state of Ohio that you can cut down by just treating addicts as a health problem. And of course, I would add, for your listeners, libertarians in that same realm are very much in favor of decriminalizing marijuana. medical marijuana and even full legalization of marijuana, which would, and also expunging all the sentences of, you know, the 2.5 million Americans who are in jail just because of marijuana. Those are some of the ways progressives and libertarians align on criminal justice. And again, anybody who's against that last part is a monster. No, I agree.

I agree. And I mean, you get 2.5 million people out of jail. Oh, what are we going to do about the workforce? well they can work on fucking pot farms because they should be profiting from them anyways you know what i'm saying like i guarantee you there's at least 2.5 million jobs in pot coming up here in the next few fucking years because of how much it's about to explode so i agree and uh yeah you're you're a you're just a lunatic like if you're a suburban housewife if you're one of these you know trump's base or whatever and you're sitting there and now you live in a place where uh you can get your 10 milligram gummy

and you just take it just for your stress because you need it. And isn't this neat? We can go to a store and get a soda with wheat in it, but you don't, you think that those people, well, they sold it and they were, go fuck yourself. I'll say that and then I'll quit. I agree.

I agree. Fucking yourself. My follow up is this. And, you know, I'm like, I'm generally curious to answer because I have a poly side degree. I stay up on things. But I know what libertarian is in a textbook. So I'm generally curious.

You talk about defending the police. and then the drugs being a health care crisis. But is a libertarian going to have a problem with the government spending a lot of money on health care because it's such a small government platform in the first place? Or is part of the current libertarian platform to transfer the money from the police to the health care system? Well, I'm more into the hybrid, again,

of progressives and libertarians working together. So while, yeah, libertarianism, and the Libertarian Party would traditionally call for any police funding that's not necessary to just go back into the pockets of the people. I generally, it's the same way I feel about the military budget. You know, if you took $700 or $700 billion military budget, which most rational people think is ridiculous, and you take, you know, let's say we're fine spending $100 billion on military, okay. Then I'm fine with $300 billion going into progressive causes to make my progressive friends happy, and I'm fine with $300 billion going back in the taxpayer's pockets.

You know, I'm fine with compromises, but I want more progressive than libertarian compromises. Now whatever these big corporate Democrats and Republicans are doing. So, you know, ideologically, there's things with libertarianism that I don't always agree with. I'm more of a pragmatic libertarian, you know, even Gary Johnson. when he was governor of New Mexico, he always said he was fine with the Medicare and Medicaid funding coming in from the federal government into New Mexico. But he always complained that with every dollar of Medicare Medicaid money he got, there was about 80 cents of attached strings and red tape and bureaucracy. So what happens is when you're a state and you get that money from the federal

government, not much of that is even going towards the cause it's supposed to go to. So, again, I'm always going to be siding with progressives and libertarians working together. But, you know, I love the Bernie folks. You guys know, I donated to Bernie. I really wanted the Democrats to go to more progressive direction. It certainly would have made me vote for Bernie in 2016 if he was the candidate. But we'll see. We'll see what happens now.

I mean, it's Joe Biden versus Trump. And it's a bizarre, bizarre year. Just when you thought 2016 was the weirdest one, it's like, hello, I'm 2020. I want you to talk about how bizarre this year is. But real quick, just because I think this is all new to a lot of people who assume every libertarian is somebody like the Bundy and France people with guns or whatever. Can you explain just so people can wrap their head around at how a libertarian can be pro. Bernie when, according to our media, you couldn't be any different, you know. One's a big government socialist and the other one hates that. Yeah. Again, Bernie voted against the Patriot Act. He voted

against Iraq War along with Ron Paul. They were both in Congress back at that time. Since Bernie has gotten to the Senate, he has worked with senators like Mike Lee to curb the president's warmaking powers. The president cannot just declare a war with an executive action. That is something that the Congress must do. And so Bernie Sanders and Mike Lee led that charge is to get the United States out of Yemen. That was just last year. And it passed the Senate and then Trump vetoed it. So there's plenty of things I like about Bernie. I like, you know, and that's the other thing to probably point out is that in college, you know, during the Bush Cheney years, I was a progressive. And then I only moved more in the libertarian direction because I saw Ron Paul, who was this anti-war Republican. And I think

that's what really comes down to for me is, are we going to keep spending $700 billion taxpayer dollars a year on the military, or are we going to start reinvesting that in our country on progressive causes or just starting to give people some of their money back instead of blowing it overseas all the time? So that's what I like about Bernie. He's anti-war. He's pro-civil liberties. He's anti-drug war. He's pro-legalization of marijuana. And I think the other thing with Bernie that you've seen since he was a mayor of Burlington is that he will use taxpayer dollars on things that actually help taxpayers.

And that's why I like about progressives. I can, hell yeah. I did that. And also killer raccoons too, Dark Christmas in the dark on Amazon iTunes right now. I was going to say if you were the right wing in this country, this would be the raddest fucking country in America. I know, could you imagine,

I'm telling you, Senator Trey Crowder from Tennessee, and Senator Travis Irvine from Ohio. Today they pitched a legalized porn and weed package at the federal level. I think we would crush it. And they were flogged with sticks immediately. Immediately by the older generation.

Hey, how about Jerry Falwell as son turned it out to be a cuckold? Oh, it's great. It's going on. It's so great. For his world, is that worse or better? What else? When Pumpeville used to think,

which is that that was his boyfriend. Well, it's like, you know, God was always watching in the Bible when people were fucking down the earth. Oh, my. You better lay with your father and begin to meet some more humans. And Joseph fucked his girl, presumably, after she had Jesus. We talked about it on my other podcast this morning through the screen door with Cory Rann Forster, critically acclaimed new podcast. We were discussing it.

And my co-host, Matt Cooney's like, how does this make a guy like Jerry Falwell look? And I was like, man, honestly, because this dude lives in a completely. different world than I've ever lived in that I can't even fathom. But like, to his base, I think blaming a woman is always the move. You know what I mean? Like, really, no matter what it is, it's like, I was doing my best. Like, I just think that there's going to be a lot of people like, see, he was trying his best. Like, I just think he at least, I mean, he page one of the playbook, at least, whether it works or not, the man was running at 32 dive up the middle and it's worked every other goddamn time. So why wasn't? Listen, who among us?

ain't paid an immigrant to do a job I wasn't willing to do. Heard that. Wow, there you go. There you go. Who do you think edits this podcast? I hope it's an immigrant who's fucking your wife. Lord, me too. Something else I need to do.

Well, with that, let's talk about to Travis, everybody. Thank you very much, Travis. It's always a pleasure, buddy. We love here. We like Hia raccoons, too. Dark Christmas in the dark. Yeah, got it. Available everywhere.

Go check it out. iTunes, Amazon. Writer director, Travis Irvine. Always a pleasure, dog. Yeah. Thanks, Travis. Love you guys. Here's two better things than 2016.

Amen. See, dog. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. At tuning next week, if you got nothing to do, thank you, God bless you, good night and skew.