wellRED podcast - #189 - How America Killed My Mother W/ Ed Larson!

Episode Date: October 7, 2020

Comedian, film maker, and overall one of our absolute favorite human beings on this earth Ed Larson drops in to talk about his new documentary How America Killed My Mother. Related to the documentary, we discuss healthcare in the country and how big of a piece of shit Donald Trump is (surprise surprise)

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They care way too much but don't give a thug. They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people. People upset, but they got three big old dicks that you can suck. Noon and one for you guys. Nine and ten. Like nine is even that early. It's not. That is for me.

Don't hit. Not when you have two children. No, but, you know, I just leave them to it in the morning. They do fine. For sure. Yeah, that's part of it. You're such a worthless. You're the most worthless piece of shit I know that's not at all worthless.

You identify as a. deadbeat piece of shit, you're just not one. Yeah, but I'm here all the time. He's worked really hard. He's like that kid where the teachers say, you work so hard trying to figure out how to get out of it. You should have just done it. Trey has figured out in his life what he don't have to do.

That is so 100% sure. I used to say, like, people would ask me about, because even in high school and then later in college and stuff, I had a 4.0. I always made straight A's. And people would like, people who knew, me well would be like how the fuck are you doing that because i also was just like a drunk party and bag of shit or whatever and it wasn't just that i was a prodigy or whatnot it wasn't that i would do

it wasn't just that it was part that right right no it wasn't that i would do i would literally do the calculations what drew was just talking about for every class i had every one of them i would like look at the syllabus and how the grading worked or whatever and i swear to god every single class i would do the very bare minimum that I could do and still make an A in it. Like, for example, I had one class that met at 8 a.m. on Mondays and Wednesdays and I don't hit. And I looked and there was only two parts of the grade. I still remember this. 90% of the grade was exam scores, test scores, and 10% was attendance. So in my head, I was like, I was like, as long as I, yeah, exactly. And I like never went. Like, I, like,

I went the first day to make sure that I wasn't wrong about that. I never went back except on test days because we had those on the syllabus and I would study for the test on my own and I'd show up and just take it and then leave. But I never went to class besides that. And I made a, I've lived my whole life doing exactly what Drew was talking about. I did too. Doing the bare minimum I could do. And also, you know.

Hitting at it. Hitting that. This didn't go. It's so funny that we, I just had this conversation with my mom. they were talking about my nephew, Jake. He's trying to pull that shit, but he's also, like, wanting to be a redneck. So he's, like, cutting classes and dipping with his buddies,

and he keeps getting called. He keeps fucking up. He's not a prodigy. And they were talking about, like, having that rude awakening as a person, like, when it happens. And I was talking about it not really happening to me until law school. Apparently, I had forgotten about this. Andy was in a political class, a political science class,

that I had accidentally forgotten to take, and I had to take as a senior. And I only showed up the day I had to do a presentation. She did she, like, I didn't even know she was in it. I don't remember, but apparently,

like, it was a presentation. And then I just was there. I did my presentation. That and the test at the end was the whole grade. Crushed them both. It was like a 100 level political science class. I lived my whole life that way,

but law school got me. And I, like I didn't, Hey, can we talk about something I know about. Well, hang, you'll know about this.

You don't know about making beans? You'll know about this. Not in college. You just said law school got you, like, I want to say, just for everybody listening, for the record, I'm not condoning that type of behavior. Like, you get into, I think show business or whatever is the same way. Like, you can't, I could do that at Tennessee Tech University. I couldn't have done that in medical school or whatever. And also, like, yeah, I sleep late now.

But, like, I also do shit at six, seven, five night that people don't know. I'm just busing your balls. Yeah. You were. Part of the reason I brought it up is I was laughing, imagining you spying on your kids, four mornings in a row to make sure they were old enough to handle it without knowing you're there so that on days five through the rest of infinity, you could sleep. That's literally exactly what happened.

Yeah, the first started, I got up and was with them and made sure that. But now that they got it. And also, I set a little alarm for like 825. It goes off. And I'm like, hey! you're on a computer you got some pencils it is a little

it's definitely okay and then I go back to sleep it's definitely different it's definitely different now like pandemic wise like you you know what I'm it's not you're having to like walk them over there

and shit like honestly though that was easier you know because just drop them up well then they fucking leave that hits yeah right yeah that's what I'm saying used to my alarm would go off and I get up like alright let's go let's go and I'd walk them down

of the school and push them through the gate and then I go back, rip all my clothes off, collapse into bed until 11 a.m. I envy, man, there is, there is just literally, there is literally no way. It's hard enough for me. If I wake up at 7 in the morning or something and I got a pee, I'm not going back to bed. I can't, like, there's no fucking way if I got up and actually walked to a school and then came back, bro, I'm, I'm so jealous of that. Like, I've never been more jealous of anything. Because my cutoff is like, if I wake up at three in the morning, there's a good chance I'm going back to bed. But honest to God, anything, like 345 passed, hello day, it's Corey. I hate you. I have that. And Corey, you can sleep through more

things than me. I have that. And y'all fart and I'll just, what was that? Yeah, yeah. I will say this. Usually once I'm out, I'm out. Like, it takes something insane to wake me up. But if it does happen, then it's ballgame. And I'm awake because like the only, like the only reason I'm ever able to fall asleep is that I fight with my demons for three straight hours in bed. And then eventually they, I do get physically exhausted and then I have to sleep. But if I wake up at any point and I've had any type of a nap, the devil's just like, yeah, let's do this. You're fat. You hate yourself. Can I give you, can I, can we talk about this for a minute? Because I also had trouble. I always had trouble falling asleep initially.

I never had trouble staying asleep, but I had trouble falling asleep too because I couldn't turn my brain off, which is exactly what you're talking about, right? Like your brain's just going a mile a minute about like important shit and you can't shut it up. I've got a couple different tips I can give you, both of which have worked for me pretty well. And this is about to get weird, but I don't give a fuck. They both work. It's okay. If it works, it's fine.

One of them is daydreaming, but not about anything remotely possible. So I don't mean daydreaming about. having a Netflix special or dayduring about being on a sitcom because that is the same version of your brain running wild. Because that's what it is. If it is at all attainable, it don't work. So I'm talking about daydreaming about, for example, what I did, hunting space dinosaurs, right? Stuff like that. Or daydream about being a pirate on a ship.

That does it. Or whatever. But then my brain would start being like, but you could be in a movie where you hunt dinosaurs. I ended up basically outlining an entire. I was about to say. By the time it was over, I did do that. I was about to say, I would definitely be like, oh, I'm going to write this. This is good.

I am writing a space thing right now. Well, that's why it has to be. That's why it has. And I still did that. But either way, I know what you said. Are you trying to induce dreams? That's what you're doing? It's not just getting your brain off of important shit.

So I'm saying, I still ended up over the course of multiple nights with that particular narrative. I still ended up basically outlining a space dinosaur script. But never, but never, I never once was like, I'm actually right that. And I'm not going to actually write it. Because you have to pick something that is so out there and so ridiculous that you won't allow yourself to become serious about it because that defeats the purpose. That's not a bad idea.

But go ahead and respond to it. What were you going to say? Well, my response was, first off, that's good. And I'm definitely going to try that. But one of my responses was like, please don't think that it's always important stuff that keep me up at night because very often it's kind of like that joke. in the void that you wrote, where it's like,

sometimes it very much will just be me going like, oh my God, do you remember what you said to that girl at the seventh grade dance? You fucking idiot. I do that all the time too. And then that will turn into like, and then you did this.

And then you did, oh, and last week, oh, you fucking dumb fuck. But that's still versions of how you don't hit for yourself. Exactly. Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. So I like, I like this.

I like space dinosaurs. I'm into that. The other one is, interviewing yourself about something very mundane but that you know about. Like for me, I'll think about like I'm reading fantasy novels right now, Miss Born by Brandon Sanderson does it. And I'll think about like the how it compares to like the science fiction series I just read a little bit ago.

And it's like I've read both of these. I have thoughts on them. Like in my head, I'm like, yeah, and the characterization and this one's whatever else, but it's not like, it's not important or anything. It's not threatening. It doesn't raise your fighter. So, like, I feel like,

Cho, you could do that with like comic books or something. You could like sort of compare comic book storylines in your head or whatnot. But don't turn it into, I'm going to make a show about whatever. And I would. Right, yeah, yeah. Think about the comparison between these two comic series you're reading or whatever. And your brain will kind of just like, what my brain ends up doing with both of these

is like that podcast you showed me sleep with me or whatever yeah it's great you know how like at first you're kind of like listen to it you're like what the fuck even is it but then your brain just sort of like drifts away or whatever I should start listening to both of these things I'm talking about that's what my brain it keeps my brain from doing

all that shit that's intrusive that we're talking about but also I don't even record I don't even before I even realize it I'm kind of just gone And you probably start kind of dreaming about that. That whole interview. Probably. That whole interview thing you just said, that's actually, now that I'm thinking back on it, that's also a really good way to just be like, I didn't even know I knew that shit.

And I say that because one time, I didn't realize how much I fucking actually knew about the injustice comic series until one night, me and you was drunk and high-ass bat pussy. And you just happened to ask me about it. And I went on like a fucking hour long tire. And I remember afterwards being like, God damn, I don't even know I knew that shit. So I'm going to do that just by myself in my sleep. That does hit.

I appreciate that, Trey. That wasn't as weird as I thought. You're like, this is about to get weird. I think this is some good stuff. Well, I just fact this. I didn't think it was. Anyway, it's not weird. When y'all started, I fall asleep pretty quickly.

And so I was like, well, I don't, I'm not going to identify with any of this. But as you were talking, I realized, that's just what I do. it's like right before I sleep's the only time I allow myself to have positive thoughts and like sometimes I remember like I wake up in the morning and I can't remember where I'd gotten to and I get frustrated and because I'm like man I was I really come up fuck what was it I'd come up with and so you were just describing what I had what I kind of do without thinking about it I just start thinking about wild shit and eventually go to sleep yeah that what yes what you're just So there's pretty much the best way some of them to start thinking about wild shit and eventually fall in.

Yeah. Like, I guess I said I thought it was about to be weird because I guess it would, it seems to me like it might sound like counterintuitive. You know what I mean? To let her and purposefully think about wild and effort to go to sleep. But it, but it works for me. Right. I was about to say to some people. It just has to be not something important.

Yeah. Yeah. Like my wife. It's not threatening, but it is engaging. My wife can just sit there and think about nothing. this, but that works for her because her mind is usually fairly blank throughout the day anyways. So it makes a lot of sense that the opposite would be true. Fire with fire.

You know what I'm saying? Exactly. No, yeah. I know. No, that's real. You're not trying to keep your brain from doing the thing that it's going to do anyway. You just shift it to where its focus is something that won't keep you up for hours. No, I'm definitely going to fucking try that.

That sounds sweet. Well, Trey, I know you got a phone call. Before y'all intro, Ed, let me plug. Eat Fruit Friday. Me and DJ are doing it again. And I open mic on Zoom. If you follow me on social media, you'll see it. And I was going to tell y'all I did live stand-up outdoors in Nashville last night.

I would give it a six out of ten. I saw our buddy Donnie Singstack and our buddy, Tim, T's Willie. The six out of ten, I felt like that was good. To quote, Donnie, isn't that what you deserve? Like, don't you feel like if you'd have gotten an eight or a nine out of ten, you would feel like you'd cheated. It took Donnie 30 minutes to say that. Isn't that what you deserve?

That's hilarious. That's great. It was fine. I miss comedy a lot. I want to know. I want to, because you're right. Yeah,

I have another call. I love Donnie and Chance Willie so much, by the way. But I want, I want to ask Corey, if anything noteworthy is worth saying about this past weekend. You got drunk. Oh, yeah.

I'm not trying, this isn't, no, no, it's some kind of like calling you out. No, no, no, it's fine. You were very open about it. You were like, yeah, no, I just want to reset. But I wondered, I just wondered where you're at on that now because every week we're sort of talking about updates. It was a, I'd like an update. I mean, you did it Saturday, right?

Saturday, yeah. I definitely. Was it hard not to drink Sunday? No, it was easy. Honestly, it was kind of a reaffirming situation. Like, like, it was definitely one of those where like, after I got drunk. I was like,

okay, this was the Georgia Auburn game. It's good to know that you can get drunk for that. And then I don't really want to do that until,

you know, Georgia, Tennessee. We're having all our fucking hitting his games right now in a row. It don't hit. It does hit.

It does hit, though. No, it does hit. No, it hits super. But like, no, man, it was more like, yes,

so yesterday, I've got a lot of shit. We, you know, we as a group have a lot of shit going on right now. But I pushed some of my personal shit that I shouldn't have.

And like, yesterday, which normally Sunday is like a pretty productive day for me. And all day, I was just like, really? I mean, you had fun. Sure, you had fun. But like, this is it, man. This fucking sucks. But yeah, no, it just reaffirmed. But you did have fun, though? I, oh, I had a blast. I had a blast. And also, as I was telling you guys, like, I'm going to enjoy sobering up again, because I had, Drew gone. I had gone, I had gone to five weeks. And I guess I had stopped noticing the benefits. Like, you just plateaued. It's like every, every other day when I was, sobering up. It was like, it was like, oh my God, like my head does. And you just keep noticing stuff.

Well, after five weeks, it's just like, yeah, this is how you feel now. And it is good, but you forget, you forget how much better. And so one good drunk every five weeks will make you go, oh, right on. And so like, today. And by the way, I'm still a little hungover today because that's the deal. That's why I even went on this journey to begin with. If hangover just lasted me one day, what the fuck ever. But like, when something lasts me too, I can't remember the last time. I had just two full days to not do a goddamn thing. And I don't want it. I mean, we're busy dudes and I want to be more busy.

But again, I think every five weeks I'm going to get reset drunk. I like it. You need to feel like shit. If I'd never felt the sunshine, I would not curse the rain. Reverse that shit, Whalen. You're right. When we were doing Downton Flabby right before, you know, we started hitting and everything.

And I was losing weight. The main thing I did was stop drinking. and like you said, the first, like the Saturday of the first week when I stopped drinking, because at that point, I would, I drank like every day. I don't think I was an alcoholic, but I was a heavy drinker. I drank like every day and had since college easily. And at that point, I'm like 29. I'm 29.

And then I, uh, the Saturday of that first week where I stopped drinking, I slept like 10 hours and I hadn't drank in a while. And I woke up on Saturday morning. I was just walking around my house. Like, I feel like fucking Tom Cruise. you don't hit Drew. I was like, this is fucking incredible. Like, I can't believe how good I feel.

Yeah, I know. I know. But like you said, it becomes the norm like anything. You do plateau off and you kind of forget, like, because you know, you'll go, whatever, three, four weeks later, you still get tired in the afternoon at work or whatever. And you, like, forget how hard it hits, right?

Right. For me, because of the timeline of Downton Flabby, it was the Super Bowl. Yeah. It had been about five or six weeks, and then the Super Bowl came up, had a small Super Bowl party. and I didn't even get hammered, but I drank.

I called out of work the next day. I was like dead in the bed. And like you said, it was reaffirming like, oh, yeah, I remember now how much this don't hit. So, about every five weeks, reset drunk. Every five weeks, do the, yeah, get drunk, reset. Because like I am, I'm very excited for like this Friday to be like, God damn, boy, you feel amazing. Because right now I still don't feel good because like I said, it's the, I'm still a little

hung over. I'd rather not be alive, you know. But tomorrow's another day for sure. All right. Well, we got a short intro this week because we got a little longer interview period because we're having such a good time and then got into some real shit that I do believe will hit for you all, the listeners. I guess this week is a friend of ours and a comedian. He's also Jeff Ross, the Rustmaster General. He's Jeff Ross's his cousin. So he mentions Jeff and doing things with Jeff in this interview. He's talking about Jeff Ross because That's his cousin.

His name's Eddie Larson, and he's one of my favorite people. I love this motherfucker. I have loved him for a while now. He has a documentary out that covers very heavy shit that he will explain in the interview. And the title lets you know that it's going to be heavy. It's called How America Killed My Mother. But Eddie's an awesome dude, and we have a really, really, he's got some rad stories. This is a great conversation.

It's like I said, it's got, make you laugh and cry. Don't you fellas think so? I agree. We are in the documentary if you didn't need more enticement folks. But yeah, if anybody out there is, you know, thinking like, oh, I don't know if this is the tone I want to go with. You'll definitely laugh more than you will cry in this interview. It was absolutely tremendous.

We get in some heavy shit, but Eddie's one of them dudes. It's just like, he can't not be funny. He just, everything he says is hilarious. He's a ball of energy and joy. And, yeah, just enjoy this with our friend Eddie Larson. He's the man. All right. And we will see y'all next time.

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So Eddie. Show and tell I got this. That's my kitty clumper. I got this in Africa. Yeah, man. Yeah, man, you swap a lion if it comes at you. Well, it's made from Ebony. I got it from South Africa.

That's right. Is that, is that just a cool thing that you wanted to have? Or do you do things that often necessarily? hesitate you having a kitty clomper. Well, you know, I try to keep at least one beaten stick in every room of the house. Yeah. I've got a bunch of

little league bats in like random places. Like, you never throw away a little league bat. It's just like, no, I'll whip a shit out of somebody with that. And it's a woman can use one arm on a little league bat. There's a 13 ounce drop. God damn. Oh, my God. I just have drugs and money hidden around my house. think you guys are more manly.

You need weapons. Anyone who's got drugs and money in their house. Yeah. You especially need weapons. Well, it's not even a plan. I just accidentally leave my drugs and money everywhere. I'll find them and it's like it's an Easter egg, you know? Oh, my God.

And were you just vacationing in South Africa or what were you doing there? We were doing a festival, the International Comedy Festival in Johannesburg. And it was a lot of fun. thought. Me and Jeff went out there. I opened for him. And it was, uh, dude, it was crazy. It was like 3,000 people just fucking hungry for comedy. That's the name of it. I'd say there's at least that many thousand people hungry in South Africa right now

anyway, but yeah. Way more than that. It's a very scary place. Yeah, man, everyone's got a gun. They're very surprised when they found out that me and Jeff lived in America without a gun. They were like, how do you live? These like little Jewish women talking to us. Like, how do you like survive? So as everybody knows, because we just mentioned it right beforehand in the first

part of the podcast, this is Ed Larson. Here he is. Here he is our buddy, everybody. As we also mentioned, Ed is a comedian and cousin of Jeff Ross, Jeff Ross, the Ross Master General. So when he says me and Jeff, that's who he's talking about. Also, filmmaker behind the documentary, How America Killed My Mother. We were going to talk about that, but I want to wait a little bit to talk about that

because I want to get like heavily into it. So let's just keep going where we're at right now. And where are you at literally, Eddie? Me? I am in my closet, in my house. I'm protected by my Miami Dolphins jerseys. I got home and away. And it was a little treat to myself.

I got my, I got the away jersey. So I got there in North Hollywood? Yeah, North Hollywood, California. Right on. I love it over here. It's a one, you know, when it's safe. Well, yeah, well, that I didn't know if you,

because yeah, you mentioned Miami, off of you're a Florida guy, and obviously Florida, not one of the better places to be during the pandemic, but neither is Tennessee or Georgia and both Corey and Drew are back at home. Of course, Corey's been there, but Drew drove to Tennessee, so I didn't know if maybe you had also fled for the, you know, safer climbs of Florida, which wouldn't have made a lot of sense, but I thought I'd ask. Man, and I got people down there. I feel, I'm so worried. I got so many old people down there. I lost two people in Florida from COVID, like old friends of the family and shit.

My best buddy growing up is a teacher. I was like, it's so, I'm so worried for all of them, man. That shit's crazy. It's real crazy. But,

you know, they like to have fun. So I don't know if you know. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Yeah. What are you going to do?

Yeah. So to every year and there is a yang for sure. Eddie, are you even aware that you, uh, all of our listeners know that me and Corey, we like to fat, we like to get a fat on and we like talking about it. Are you aware, I can't remember if I've told you before or not,

that you introduced me and Corey to what has become one of our like, my legit favorite restaurant. Yeah, one of our favorite places to fat at, just a Mount Rushmore of fatten for us. Do you, do you know this? Is Abbott's. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. In D.C., specifically, the orca that cold seafood tower that specifically you changed my life bro half price after 11 i don't buy anyone a seafood tower it's unbelievable man like like for real like uh you know DC was always a place that I was excited to perform at anyways but it moved up one more slot whenever you introduced me to the orca I would plan the whole weekend around that's like okay first night definitely got to go to Abbott.

Second night, I mean, yeah, we're probably going to there. Third night, definitely going to Abbott. So the whole thing was kind of, you know, playing around it. So I really appreciate you, man. A Hall of Fame fucking fat spot. Oh, my God.

It just makes me so happy every time I go there. And the best part is, like, you just like, you go, you close down Emmett, you get hammered on seafood and whiskey. And then you just go stumbled three blocks away. And you curse at the White House. It's awesome. And you go and you sleep lovely. You sleep.

Yeah, we did that too. I just, I forgot about that. Yeah, we went and smoked weed in front of the White House. And Travis Irvine was also with us. It was just on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. And yes, we did that. And we went and smoked weed in front of the White House and, like, screamed at it and stuff. It was awesome.

That was a good time. Oh, man. You told that story about South Africa earlier. And it made me real, like, I don't know. Like, we've just gotten to be buddies. And I just like hanging out with you. You're always a good time. But you're one of those people.

I forget. I don't think about the fact that you've had these white. wild-ass experiences like that one. Do you know what I mean? Like doing a 3,000-person comedy festival in South Africa. What's the craziest one? Like, comedy-related story that you've had. Iraq on Christmas, man.

There you go. Damn. That sounds Iraq on Christmas. Well, do tell, please. Well, the year my mom died, I didn't know what to do for Christmas. So you thought you'd go to Iraq. I get it. Honestly, it was like when it was handed, when the offer was offered to me, I'm like, what am I going to do?

I'm going to go, like, hang out with my fiance's family and just, like, be really sad that I can't hang out with mine. That's true. Iraq is better. I'm just going to go to fucking Iraq. But I can't tell you how many times I thought to myself, whenever I'm on my way to Wayne County, Tennessee, where my in-laws live, I swear. God damn, I wish I was going to Iraq right now. Yeah, if I could be catching shrapnel somewhere. I would so much rather be in Iraq right now.

That's funny, but that's quite literally the Army's whole pitch to people where we're from. Listen, this is fucking better than Wayne County. Even Iraq is better than what your- At least if you go over there, yeah, at least if you go over there, you might die on accident. Wouldn't that be a nice change of pace? Yeah, Christmas in Iraq is much better than Hanukkah in Syria. Can't get a DUI and a tank queer. I went with the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff,

Dumford at the time. It was like, I was terrified. And then I just remember it was like, all right, anytime you get scared, just like, go be by the general because he's not going to die.

Stupid question, I'm sure, but was it like a military transport situation to get you? And the whole time or just like the last leg, did you fly commercially for part of it? Or how did that work? On December 23rd, we flew out of Andrews Air Force Base on like a C something. The plane was like three stories tall.

There was a Humvee in it. We're throwing footballs like 40 yards at each other. One of those gigantic cargo plane thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome. That is crazy. It was rock and roll. I don't know how the physics of this work, but like, did the football go faster when you threw it towards the back of the plane?

He just threw it up in the air and then it got to the back. No, it just knew it. I don't know It owns I guess it owns its own Up there it's all like you know Life is normal Because it's pressurized

Yeah Yeah but I had to wear like a winter coat And like a beanie and shit And like because it was like 30 something degrees Because we were flying so high And then we stopped in Ramstein In the Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany for Oh yeah you got to stop in Romstein

Yeah I was so happy when they were Flynn's like, all right, now we're stopping at Romstein. I was like, yeah, do hoss. Mother, fuck. And then that was the only time I've ever been to Germany. You know, it was just like randomly at this Air Force base in the middle of the night. And then we went and then we got to Iraq on Christmas Eve.

By the time we got there was Christmas Eve. We did one show at the NBC. And that was a lot of fun. You know, you guys are, you guys wrestling fans? Oh, yeah, baby. I grew up one. I fell out of it. years ago, Corey is massively, massively into it.

So you know, Gail Kim, the, she's married to, um, chef Robert Irvine. He was there. Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah. I'm not, I'm not too familiar, but yeah, I know who you're talking about. She, like, the, the bit was she would, like, beat the shit out of me in front of all the other soldiers and shit.

Yeah, like, I'd come out and be like, oh, it's a lady. Oh, I thought we were in Iraq, not Vietnam. You know, that she just, like, kicked the shit. out of me. But yeah, four shows in two days. Oh, my God. There's some stuff.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You know what I'm saying? But it was the best audience, I think I've ever had my whole life. I bet, man. I bet they were glad to see that

what you just described. That's fucking rad. They would fucking love the three of you guys. You guys would crush that shit. If you could just see it, you got to get past the cynicism, though. You know, that's the other thing, because it's hard. Oh, my God. So Christmas Eve, we just finished the show in the embassy in Baghdad.

And after the show, there's like these two Iraqi soldiers that are there because, like, we're buddies now. And there's these two Iraqi soldiers there and they're waiting for the chairman. And then when the chairman gets off stage and like, wish everyone to Merry Christmas, they like crumbled up at a ball. They hand them like this black cloth. And he holds it upside down. and it's an ISIS flag that they captured

the night before. Hell. And like they would only hold, they like, they wouldn't fold it. They would only crumble it in a ball and hand it to each other. And then the chairman like jammed it in his pocket.

It was like the craziest fucking thing I ever saw. And then I accidentally went to a midnight mass afterwards. Yeah. Midnight Mass. Oh, so Catholics. Yeah. I've done this once because I dated a Catholic.

Actually, I don't know if y'all know this cornered. Bag of shit, Amber was a Catholic. I can see that. And I went to Midnight Mass with her once. Is that the one who thought all the Jews were deaf? Yes. Yep.

I mean, I've been to mass before. It don't hit. Ed, our listeners have heard the story, but real quick to explain that. She wasn't excited about it. She just thought that all Jews died in the Holocaust. She thought Hitler was successful. Yeah, she thought Hitler really got it done. It actually is related to wrestling kind of,

because I have been talking to her big fat, redneck ass stepdad, about wrestling and Bill Goldberg had gotten brought up and then right as me and her we're leaving and so the conversation continues in the car between me and my girlfriend at the time and she sets up about Bill Goldberg and I was like yeah I love Goldberg and I'm naming off all the reasons I like Goldberg and one of them I was like I was like also I mean you know I feel like you don't see too many Jewish guys like that jacked huge bald whipping people's asses I was like that's just kind of cool and she goes what and I was like well, Bill Goldberg, he's a Jewish, and she was like, no, he's not.

And I was like, what do you mean? No, he's not? And she's like laughing, like, it's the dumbest shit she's ever heard in her life. She's like, Trey, there are no Jews. And I was like, what? She was like, Hitler killed all the Jews, Trey. Are you serious? Don't you know what television works? Eddie asked Trey how long it took him to break up with her after that. How long were you with this woman? At least two and a half years longer. Yeah.

I tell people that sometimes they're like, oh my God, did you break up with her? I was like, shit, my dick grew three sizes that day. Been to give her the Schindler's fist. She could suck start of John Deere, baby. Now y'all all know it. The Jews could have used Goldberg back in the 40s. I'll tell you that much.

Yeah, yeah, yes, sir. How, Lord, but we digress. Anyway, you went to a midnight mass. Yeah. Who, like, okay, just, I'm sorry. Just go. Oh, that's fine. So I'm sitting there, and then I realize I'm kind of by myself.

I don't know where Jeff went. I don't know where my other people went. And I'm hanging with the Army doc because he's cool as hell. And then he's like, here, come on with us. And then I saw the chairman walking off. And I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, my rule is stay by the chairman. When all else fails, you won't get killed. You know, so it's just like, so I follow, I start following that.

and they go into the back of this mess hall and there's like a makeshift like Catholic Mass for midnight Mass and then he's like Ed you want to come please sit next to me of my wife so I'm at midnight Catholic Mass on Christmas Eve I'm Sanche atheist and so

I'm sitting next to the chairman and his wife at a Catholic Mass in the middle of fucking Baghdad the guy performing the mask has a gun on his hip he's like an old African like priest and he's got a gun and then another dude with a gun on his hips like reading out of the Bible and like telling us about how beautiful is and life is wonderful and no great and it's just like I was this is a craziest shit I've ever fucking been a part of and like they made me like lead a prayer and like I can't tell these people how much I don't yeah yeah they're like well Ed what would what do you you know it's like I you know I love dude yeah right right right. Ed raised Jewish am I mistaken my father's Jewish my mom was

Catholic. So I was raised Catholic. I went to Catholic school, which is why I'm an atheist. Yeah, Trey, I don't know if you know this, but really super religious people, one of their superpowers is being able to find out who would be the most uncomfortable leading a prayer and then asking that person to do it. Like, I don't know how they do it, but they can just pinpoint right in. I did not want to be there. I was sweating my ass off. I got one more question about that, and I don't want to talk about the documentary for sure, but I'm very curious. the uh so okay it's christmas there's shows they've brought you over there it's you know troops and shit bureaucrats and all this but you're in iraq what's the drinking situation

for anybody like were you how prevalent was it did you have gotten drunk if you wanted to was it like a secretive thing where they how did that work i've always wondered that There's one bar in all of Iraq, and it's on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, and we went to it. It's called Baghdad. It's like an Irish pub run by, like, a bunch of dudes from a, I can't remember where they're from, some stand country. And it was crazy. We hung out all night long after we did three shows. It was like three in the morning, and the chairman's like, let's go to the bar.

We're like, fuck, yeah, let's rock, because we're all hyped up on super. soldier drugs to keep us awake. Was it? Provisual. You ever hear it? It's called for it? Yeah. You got the fighter, the fighter pilot stuff? That's math, right? Yeah. It's basically

it's basically Adderall, but it doesn't make you crazy. You got to do that? Did they get a whole bunch of it? The Army doc gave it to all of us. He was all, because everyone brought their wife. Yeah, we got to go do a USO tour for sure. I'm trying to get Uncle Sam. smacked out.

Right. Hey, well, red fans who are on the fence about Joe Biden because he's not enough for you. That's one goddamn reason to vote for him. We might finally be able to do a U.S.O. tour. What hit? Well, when we got back, actually, so yeah, we're on this drug, and I'll talk about that in two seconds. Let me forget about when we got back. And so, yeah, so we're all on this drug called Providual, like us, like the general's wives,

the sergeant majors' wives, you know, we're all just like five in the morning. Ed is just talking about the women. Yeah, we basically drank until our plane was ready. Then we gathered our shit and then just slept all the way back to America for like 17 hours. But it was fucking fun. And I was up like late. I got a great picture. I'll have to share with you guys.

It's like me with my arm around the chairman with a beer in my hand and fucking four in the morning in Iraq. Again, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, right? Yeah. Every time you say the chairman, everybody remember that. That's the chairman he's talking about. And you're just whacked out of your mind. The Joint Chiefs of fucking staff. Yeah.

Joseph Dunford. He's gone now. He's gone now. But he was great. I really loved him. He was so, he was surprisingly liberal. Like,

all the conversations we had were great. Oh, man, I got the Sergeant Major. He was great. He was like, you're a liberal. You're trying to take our guns. This is also like five in the morning.

We're all hammered. And he's like, and then I'm like, I bet I can convince you of three simple rules. about guns that you agree with. And he's like, all right, try me. I was like, all right, how about a vision test? Then I was like, well, assume that, you know,

you should have a vision test before you buy a gun. He's like, yeah, that's probably good idea. Now, I was like, how about insurance? You know, like, in case like, you know, you shoot somebody, you know, you should be able to pay for their medical insurance. He's like, that's a good idea. And I was like, yeah, I know. And then I was like, well, how about if we,

like a trading course, you know, so we're like, you know, like you have a, you have a, you know, driver's license, you know, when you go that, you have your, your permit for a year. I was like, and then you learn how to shoot your gun and it's your gun. And then he's like, so that would work. Yeah. I was like, that's all I want. I was like, I want a gun. I was like, don't think that we're all like trying to take guns away. It's like, I'm here. I'm in the guns. I mean, granted, I'm in the South. I'm in the South. So this is different. But like,

almost every liberal that I personally know has never once said, let's take anyone's fucking guns. Like, it's pretty much what you just said. Yeah, no, just let's have a little bit of order. You know, it's like there's a little bit of responsibility. I love to how Obama put it. Let's treat it like cars. Yeah, right, right.

Hard as a car. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, and I, it's funny, because I've told, I've had almost that exact same experience you had with the fucking Sergeant Major of the Army or whatever with my buddy Kobe that I grew up with from

back home, but like it's the same exact, and Katie's redneck ass uncle, same exact, like just, I go back home, guns get brought up and it pretty much plays out exactly the way you just, outlined it in that conversation. They think because I'm now, you know, California and I'm

liberal queer and all this, that I'm in favor of taking their guns. And I'm like, no, I'm not. I never said that. I never have said that. Well, what do you think? And then we go through it and we pretty much agree on all of it like you just said. You know, well, shit. Yeah. So it happens with me and my 15 year old nephew, but I feel like that's like way more acceptable. It's like, yeah, you're an ignorant 15 year old. But like sometimes with like, well, that dude's in the arm. me he should know how news works and he should read you know what i mean yeah yeah i remember when i was stupid and young i fucking i bought a AK 47 with with my tax return he's from florida as a reminder you have to do that in florida yeah because in florida you can

then ride it back off for the next year that's double points at the marriott where i'm Like I was saying, so when we get back, this was right, right after Trump got elected, 2016 Christmas, so he's not president yet, but he's about to be president. And we get back, and we're in Florida, and Jeff goes to Mar-a-Lago one day to, like, just like hang out because it's like, you know, it's so bizarre, you know, everything that's happening. We're like, all right, Jeff also knows Trump. So it's just like, he's like, I'm going to go, I'll say, hi, see what's going on. And then he gets there and then he tells Trump, he sees Trump,

Trump bites him over to his table, he's eating a burger dipped in mayonnaise. And, um, yeah, broken clock, man, broken clock. But he literally goes like this. Jeff's like, oh, I just came back from a USO show in Iraq on Chris. And he's like, oh, yeah, it's a terrible job over there. What do you think about Schwarzenegger on The Apprentice? It's going to fail, right? Just like that.

That was how we like wanted to talk about U.S.O shows. war. It's like the ratings are going to be terrible. It's a kind of a fucking piece of shit. That very much checks out. So, all right, Ed, like, yeah, as everybody can tell by now, my experience with you has always been like you're just, you're just a hell of a good time and a fun guy, fun guy to be around, funny, awesome, very lovable.

But, you know, it's not all sunshine all the time. Obviously, you referenced it earlier, went through some shit with your mom, decided to make a movie about it. The movie is called How America, could kill my mother. Why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about it and then also make sure at the end to tell people how they can like go about checking out and whatnot if they want to. But let's talk about it. Absolutely.

So 2016, my mom is a brittle diabetic and we're very poor at this point in our lives. I got no money. You know, I'm a comedian who's a cook. And my mom and I'm an only child. My parents are divorced. And my mom is working a nursing home making 10, 20 an hour trying to make ends meet. She's a brittle diabetic, type one diabetic. And I'll know if you know this about diabetes,

but it costs an on average $16,000 a year to be a diabetic. That's for your insulin, for your needles. Well, that's been brought up this very week, right? Or I guess it was last week now because it was one of the things that Trump screamed over Biden in the debates was about insulin being as cheap as water or whatever. He was talking about how it's cheap to be a diabetic. And a lot of diabetics were very upset. by that? I couldn't have been more like I just wanted to rip my television off the wall,

throw it out my fucking window. I was very upset, you know, just because like, not true, not true at all. The price of insulin has gone up. Hold on. I actually took some notes. The price of insulin from 2008 until now has gone up from $147 a month to $530 a month. Jesus. Like it's gone up that fast. Yeah, to live. This is like basically, like my mom's making $32,000 a year, $16,000 is going to be in a diabetic. That shit don't add up. She's not going to survive. She can't pay her rent.

She can't do anything. And so when this happens, and like I said before, she's a brittle diabetic. And I don't know if you know what that means. I don't. That means she's very fragile. And so at any point, like her emotions control her sugar. And like when your sugar goes up, you can stroke out. When it goes down, you just straight up die.

and you pass out, you know, and you can't be awake anymore. You know, it's awful. And every time it drops below a certain number, you get brain damage. Now, it's not like you're going to, like, be, you don't know what you're talking about if your sugar drops once or twice. But, you know, if it happened in like four times a week for 30-something years, it's going to take its toll. And so the last couple years of my mom's life, she wasn't all with it, you know.

And so she, and we're trying to make ends meet. we're trying to make money and she doesn't know how to make money. And so she ends up developing a gambling problem, you know, because, you know, one time you win big and then you think that's the answer. The next thing you know, it's just a vicious fucking cycle, especially when you're living an hour from Atlantic City. And it made me realize after she passed away, just like all the different institutions,

not just the government with our shitty healthcare system, but, you know, how everybody was just kind of taken advantage of her because she was ignorant and desperate is the best way to put it. You know, and she's my mother, so it's hard to say. But it's like, that's what was happening. So everyone, when they see blood in the water, they fucking strike. Whether it's the banks or the casinos, like, or a fucking check cashing store down the street. Everyone's trying to fucking take a little bit.

And it adds up real fast. And my mom, she was susceptible. to all of it because we needed to buy insulin. And like we got to the point where she's like getting like expired insulin donated from her endocrinologist, which is like a diabetes doctor. And, you know, it's just like living off of that shit. We're trying to, I was trying to figure out how to get shit from Canada. I could never figure it out.

You know, and it was just like a fucking disaster until, you know, one day she had this machine also, which is a blood sugar monitor. and basically it would beep when her sugar dropped. And she would know she'd have to drink some orange juice or eat some glucose tablets, you know, just to bring your sugar back up. But the thing is, like a year and a half before she died,

her job changed their insurance plan. And then the new insurance didn't cover the machine. And so they're like, well, you can keep the machine that you already have, but you've got to give us $800. Or you're going to have to give the machine back. And like back then, like $800 might have well have been $5,000.

You know, like we were just so, we were dirt poor. And so it was just like, okay, I guess we're giving the machine back. And then she died in her sleep, you know, because the machine didn't wake her up. Like right, like right after that? Not like a year later. Yeah. But still, but still, if she'd have had the machine, it would have beeped and woke her up. Right.

Yeah. And the only reason she didn't have the machine was because she didn't have $800 in order to keep. the machine. Exactly. Exactly. And so that was like, you know, it was just like a pile on for so long. And it just drove me fucking crazy with the overdraft fees and these like all this other shit. They're like, I don't understand why we don't even like attempt to take care of our poor. You know, the banks drive me crazy with this shit. $34 billion in overdraft fees. That's $34 billion they made in 2017 from the poorest people in our country. Because that's the only reason to give them a bank account is so hopefully they fuck up

an overdraft and you can charge their ass. Right. Because otherwise it's not even worth it for them to give them a bank account. It's been pointed out a million times by now. But I mean, because it's true, but like, you know, it's expensive to be poor or to be broke. And, you know, if you have a lot of money, you just get given more money. Like your money just gives you money for free. basically. And if you don't have any money, it costs money to not have any money. And it's just so

fucked up and flipped on its head. And I know me and you have talked about this for it. I'm not going to go into like heavy detail on it. But I know a lot of, I understand very well a lot of what you're talking about because my dad died of pancreatic cancer. And we also were dirt poor. And I was very furious and frustrated by that process too because I, it just felt like the fact that we, he was poor, we were poor, meant he just got nothing, basically. I also, I was working for the DOE at the time, but I had the Department of Energy, which is a pretty good job, but I had no spare money or anything. And at the same time, my dad had pancreatic cancer, a guy I worked with at the Department

of Energy who had been there for like 30 years, you know, and was like, had good salary and good benefits and stuff, had the exact same kind of pancreatic cancer. My dad had, and he survived, you know, and I like the guy. this was also tragic because he passed away too, but he survived like a year to 18 months or something like that. My dad lasted like six weeks after getting basically the same diagnosis. And I know it's because he, you know,

he just didn't get the same like level of care because he was, you know, a poor white trash guy. And like, I don't know, this is a fucked up thing to say, probably, but like weirdly,

I'm almost like, I don't know, there's just weird kind of like, I'm trying to think of how to say this. I'm glad I didn't have to watch that process for a year, more than a year, or an extended amount of time the way that you kind of did. Because for me, we were poor my whole life, but as far as what my dad went through with the illness and everything,

it was, you know, it came up and was over pretty quickly. And it was brutal, but it went pretty quickly at least. But yeah, I know. So like, I can't relate, but also I can. because having to go, having to be constantly reminded of that for that amount of time is got to be fucking rough. Oh my God. It's,

it makes you insane. Like the last year of my mom's life, you know, I mean, she wasn't in her right state of mind. You know, that was really hard to kind of like be around for, you know,

like she didn't know where Europe was one time when we were talking. You know, it would get like that. And you're like, okay. So we'll have to slow these conversations down a little bit and changed the way to changed the way things are. And, you know, like, and I definitely have regrets. Like, I could have moved down there. I could have, like, moved in with her and, like, tried to fucking get everything

right. But I didn't have any money. I was in New York trying to scrape by. And, like, my career was just getting started. I just booked my first, like, two TV gigs, you know, and it was just like, man, it's like, do I just quit and, like, fucking babysit my mom forever? I don't know. Like, how long is this going to last? And so I was put, I was only an. I was just put, I was only an hour and a half away and I thought that'd be enough and obviously it wasn't and uh you know but like I tried I took over her bills because she was irresponsible with her money you know we opened a joint bank account and shit and like we and I did all that stuff but you know when it came down to it if I turn my back for a day or two she'd run off to Atlantic City and then like write bad checks and the thing is

you know you write a bad check like that's on you like you fuck up you know like everyone understand. I get that. Like, we're adults, but she was not in the right stand of mine and she was desperate. And so, like, that's where I think it changed for me. Yeah, I was about saying. Definitely praying on her. Yeah, there's a pretty big difference between, you know, someone who's just fuck it. I don't, you know, I don't want to work. I'll just write bad checks to he'll long get by. And someone who has just been given a, hey, if you don't have this amount of money that you're in no condition to make, you get, you have to die. There's a huge difference between those. those two people.

So, you know. Someone who's defended probably hundreds of people when it comes to writing bad checks. I can think of maybe to one woman sticks out who was just like, she was funny as shit. She was like, yeah, no, I just, you know, I like stuff. Drew, Drew, Drew, I thought we agreed you weren't going to talk about my mom on here whenever this stuff. Those acting classes are helping because I thought my sound was fucked up or something.

Me too, me too. Turns out, Tray was just really drawing from something. But the other 98% absolutely every time in my experience, it was like, we needed diapers or I thought I had money, but then this happened and I forgot about it. Then I got the overdraft fee, and that's why the check bounce, because I had three overdrafts of the shit you're talking about. And so it's not just expensive to be poor. It's actually illegal to be poor. Yep. Yeah, man.

It's fucking crazy. And what's the expression? You're rob and Peter to pay Paul. Right. So that's what my mom was doing. You know, like your checking counts negative $300. So I can't put my check in there because if I put my check in there, then I don't have enough money for rent.

So what I'll do is I'll go to a check cashing store where they take 10% of my check. And then I'll be able to know, then I'll buy a money order from them. And that's $10. And then I'll take that. And then that's all pay my rent this month. Or maybe I'll open another checking account at another bank. So now I got two checking accounts, three checking accounts. But those two are negative, but this one's positive.

So I'll put my check in there and I'll take some of that money and I'll put it in that bank. I'll take some of the other money. I'll put in that. It's like the worst fucking system in the world. And during all of that, during all of that, you're spending over $1,000 a month in medicine. Like, which is just like such a fucking huge number for someone making 10, 20 an hour. You know, like so it's impossible. It's in fucking, so I was just like, but when I sat down and really thought about it, I was just so fucking mad about it.

I was like, I'm like, the only skill I have is to be able to tell a story and be able to like, you know, I learn like me. So I'm like, all right, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to fucking, I'm going to take this life insurance money and I'm going to make this movie and I'm going to confront everyone who fucked over my mom. And, you know, it was, it was intense from everyone from my father to TD Bank, you know. Well, so that's a perfect segue because I was going to make sure and get into the specifics of the documentary itself. You gave a sort of the background on the story or whatnot, but talk about the, you know, the film itself. Yeah. Well, when it came down to the life insurance, when I said I took half of the life insurance money, very important for people to know. If your parent dies and there is no estate, you don't owe anyone anything.

All right. That life, if they also have life insurance money, which is that it comes to you tax free. That's your money. you don't have to pay their debts with that money. Very important. Everyone knows that. Everyone will try to convince you that that's not true. Also, make sure if they do have one that you as their child are the benefactor.

If there is no benefactor, it just goes to the estate and then you're fucked. So make sure you're the personal benefactor. Thank you for pointing that out. Absolutely. But what happened with my mom, remember I was saying how she wasn't in her right mind the last couple years of her life? but the last week was much worse. And I didn't know it because also another big thing that lays into all of this is like the shame we put on each other for being poor and being broke and everyone's embarrassed with shit. And so my mom got very sick the last week of her life, obviously.

And she went to the hospital two times. And a couple days, four days before she died, she signed a paper saying that she wanted to lower her, like, life insurance because she wanted to lower her payments from $60 a month to $40 a month. And so she lowered her life insurance cut in half. Four days before she died, she signed the paper. So instead of $60,000, I got $30,000. And I try to explain, you know, like here the hospital report. She's in and out of the hospital.

She's obviously not in the right stay in her mind. You know, she died in her sleep. She's all fucked up. And they, you know, no one gives a shit. You know, no one cares at all. Like it's just like, yeah, you know, we get to keep. that money now. So, yes, she did sign the paper. And, but you should have like, they should know that sometimes when you die four days later, maybe your brain isn't working the way it should be

working. You know, and so it's like also, also who come up with the idea to lower her payment? It sounds like they knew she was about to die. Yeah. And so they were trying to cut their losses. Yeah. And just calling fucking desperate, crying, all this shit. And like, when it comes back to the casinos, my mom loved going to Trump Taj Mahal. of course. They're just like an extra little kick in the nuts. And so the way they took bad checks, that shit was disgraceful because like, first of all, like you bounce a check.

All right, you bounce a check. You bounce like four checks at the same place in a week. Maybe you don't take any more checks from this person. But no, that's not what they do because that's not where they make their money. They make their money on the bounce check fees that they're charging you every time a check bounces. you know and then trump Taj Mahal all right so you guys have all been broke you know if you bounce a check they can deposit it and you're trying to deposit it three times and then you can get caught on overdraft fees three times well trump Taj Mahal figured out how to deposit it six times because they were deposited three times the paper check and three times as an electronic check and so like when my mom's got four bad checks going six times each fifty dollars each time it's just like the number just like it blows you know know, and just don't even, we didn't have a chance. You know, and it was, that was where we were at.

And so I was fucking curious. Then the bank and not giving back the overdraft fees, she's in there crying, talking about her, she can't buy medicine and shit. And then you look her in the eye, also any bank manager can do whatever they want, by the way, just so everyone knows, like, you know, bank manager, because we're like, don't worry about it. It's all forgiven. You know, but no, they didn't do any of that for her. You know, and she's in there in tears. And only reason I know that's true is because I was on the phone with her. You know, and they're just looking at this crying woman. And they can easily just say, don't worry about it.

But they're like, no, you owe us that $600 and you can't have your fucking life put together. We don't worry, we don't worry that you got to go to the canned food fucking, you know, place to go, you know, it's a horrible way to end her life. And she was such a good woman and didn't deserve any of that shit. And you know what? And the fucked up thing is it happens hundreds of times a day all over this God. damn country thousands of times who knows and no one cares and it's just like it's like oh too bad you fucked up good luck you should have known better it's like not everyone knows better yeah you're right

should have used your bootstraps and that type of thing like they're no sympathy because they're like it's your own fault and it's like no like you said not everyone knows better some people like I don't know buddy I could go all day on this subject it gets me yeah yeah no I hear you and I just don't like just fundamentally it doesn't make sense in terms of like I know that we're these you know the Trump Taj Mahal motherfuckers in their mind they're like well fuck them I'll keep getting the bank fees and I'll keep getting it but like long term wise how can anyone at the top think this is beneficial for us all in the end like there's no way this will cause riots and this will cause people to occupy Wall Street and this will call like it makes no sense to me that you can't

see that hey okay maybe if we make 0.2% less rioting. now, the world will be a better place. And ultimately, these people will not die and they will be the consumers that we live. We are the runners of a consumer-driven market. You'd think it would benefit us to keep those that consume alive and wanting to consume. But they literally just want the 0.2% now, which goes completely against what they normally preach to you, which is like, hey, just be conservative now. And then later everything will be good. They preach that right into your head, but they don't go with it fundamentally. And it just blows my fucking mind that, that, I don't know,

they do get the biggest suckers for thinking that they feel that way. They preach that in our minds, but at the very top, I mean, what you're talking about is the opposite of venture capitalism. And the rich people that are that rich, like the people, you know, not the guy maybe who manages the check into cash, but the Peter Thiel's who own them. Right. They're going to, they're literally planning to start their own. country. They'll literally do that. They'll never have to, like, the protests don't matter to them.

They're going to suck everything they can. Yeah. Out of the, off the dying tea of this country. And then if it does implode, they'll just hire their private security to murder assault and or build their own country. Right. They've got a huge guy. I've mentioned before on here, but the Seattle tech billionaire named Nick Hanauer, who I've done some shit with, who like, his whole entire thing now is trying to convince other billionaires of exactly what you're talking about right now, Corey, like his whole thing to his peers is like basically, hey, do you guys not realize that, like, if we keep up with this in this direction for long enough, like, they're going to fucking

kill all of us. Yeah, yeah. Like, eventually they're going to bust through the gate with their pitchforks. They're going to fucking set us on fire and eat us all if we don't stop. like he tries to take that angle on it and they basically just laugh in his face i mean but they're not they're not at all concerned about to their that they're they're evil they're not stupid because like to them they're like well yeah if they can get to me you know like if they can get to me behind this fence and this wall and this blah blah but i mean you know i've seen my guards and my fucking yeah like they

they don't buy enough yeah they don't care like those people like to point out what drew was saying they're not the ones who are actually walking to work on Wall Street who are going to have to step over these motherfuckers playing hacky sack. Like they're at home counting the money that those people made for them. So like, I don't know, man. Well, yeah, that's what's crazy. We're going to end up killing a bunch of fucking day traders. And I'm not saying they're good people,

but like their bosses ain't going to give a fuck about that. Right, right, exactly. No, at all. Find another person to plug in that fucking job. And like, when's the last time many of you went to Atlantic City? You've got shows there fairly recently at some point, right? I don't think so. No, we've done, we've done casino shows before, but only in Vegas or actually

Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Florida, Hard Rock Casino. Which is the Atlantic City of the South for sure. Right. Yep. We've never done shots in the fight over pancakes. Atlantic City, though. Well, I don't know when the last time you've been to Atlantic City, but in Boardwalk Empire, it was nicer.

It's fucking, it is a dreadful fucking place. And like, it is like, we talk about that. It's like, don't you want your fucking your city to look nice? Don't you want there to be like 10 less pregnant dogs running around the dog? Like, it's just like, it's so crazy to me. You know, it's like, you walk outside. We're not saying no pregnant dogs. We're just saying 10 less.

We're conservative. We're just saying 10 less, all right? It turns out. That's not the Atlantic City of the South. Atlantic City is the Atlantic City of the South. No shit. No shit. But yeah, no, when Trump College Hall closed down,

because it closed down, I was like the last person to get in there and get footage of the place, because they were closed down the week after. They furloughed, I mean, they laid off everybody and then sold their pensions. Carl Iconn. You know, he's a fucking,

what's he's in the cabinet. Carl Icon, he's one of the owners of lift. He took, over the Taj Mahal for for Trump after he left and they sold everyone's pension you know 3,000 people it fucked I mean you're a waiter at a Trump Taj Mahal for 30 years the only reason you're doing that is for your pension and then like all the sudden that's just ripped from you and now you have to like figure out how to survive and that shit's the Atlantic City is dying 10,000 jobs in the last like four years they've lost and that's a lot when it comes to like a city

that's only got like 200,000 people in it, less. You know, so it's just, what are you doing? Yeah, man, all things are not great at present. So, Eddie, how can people check out the documentary, how America Kill My Mother. You go to how America kill my mother.com. Luckily, the URL was still available. a lot of people

damn I wish I'd have thought of that How America Kill My Mother.org would be so funny dotgov Yeah But yeah How American Kill Mymother.com You can rent it, it's available, it's on Vimeo You can rent it or you could purchase it

And it'll live on your Vimeo forever But I just- Let me give it an extra plug And pay you a compliment as a person and animal maker. The part of your dad, I was so invested and I was also so like

rooting for you but mad at you. Like I don't want to give too much away, but I was like, fuck him. No. And also like, yeah, you're a good dude.

It's a good dude. Anyway, there's a lot of heart in it and it's a great, great movie. Yeah. I mean, not to give away the ending,

but like I make up of my dad, you know, and it's like, honestly, it feels so good, you know, to not, like, hate the dude that I came from anymore. You know, we have a good relationship. We talk on the phone. I, like, you know, I, I, I ask him for advice. I don't always take it,

but I like to hear what he's got to say, you know, because we're part of each other. Right. You know, it's like, it's like, people, I don't know what anyone's beef is with their father, and there's lots of horrible dads out there that don't deserve to be forgiven. And my dad certainly sucked for a good portion of my life. But honestly, having them as a bad. And, you know, buddy again, I wouldn't give it back for anything. And I think a lot of people need to know that, you know, forgiveness is a lot easier than hate. And, you know, it's so hard to carry that fucking burden and just like hatred for so long. And now it's great. I mean, he's also a victim of diabetes. He's got no legs in anymore. You know, he's just an old beaten down man. And so it's like,

what am I even hating? You know, like, yeah, well, that's another thing. You know, man, you got a lot in common in this regard, but it's like flip-flop, because I already talked about my dad, but also like my, my, my, I had, my mom, I only as an adult finally, like, forgave my mom. We're still, we're not like super close, but, you know, we talk in Texas show all the time and I have no problem with her. Like, we're on good terms now. And I completely agree with everything you said about just how much better and preferable and easier it is to not be angry with somebody or, or like you said, filled with hate or resentment or anger or whatever

and just let go of all that, it is definitely preferable. Because, I mean, my mama's still crazy. And I joke about my mama and shit. You know, I did it just a little bit earlier.

Mostly it hits for her now. She thinks it's funny. So, like, it's fine. But, but it ain't, you know,

but we're good now. And we weren't for so long. And it's, uh, maybe it's different in the truth. I wish, uh, I wish I had a person that I could forgive and let go of all this.

I was just going to say, I think it might be different if it's not your parents because I fucking hate one of my grandmothers and like I don't feel bad. Like I love it. Like I love hating her. You know what I mean? Like it's kind of fun.

So like, but she's not my mom. You know, like I genuinely like I don't, I don't ever want to forgive her. But like because like, you know, that'd ruin this little,

this little kind of quirky part of me, which is like, yeah, fuck my grandmother. She sucks. Oh man. If someone threw a rock up my aunt Judy, I'd give him a lot. You know what I guess.

You know what I guess. Oh, that made me a lot-headed, dude. Oh, well, Eddie, as always, you've been an absolute prince. I miss you, man. I wish this shit would go away so we could like to hang out and stuff again, have some parties and whatnot. We'll figure it up. When this is all over, we should just all go to D.C. together and get us a goddamn big orca on you, boy.

Honestly, that's a fucking phenomenal idea. Ed, I want to thank you for the orca, too, because these guys fat all the time, and most of the time, my skinny ass ain't involved, but I love it. of seafood. And when I found out that they were, that was the tradition, I was like, fuck yeah,

finally I can get in on the fat. Yeah. Hell yeah. I'll see. We actually should do a trip to D.C. I got a couple random connections from these USO trips that we could take advantage of. Yeah.

I think I can get us in the Pentagon. Yeah. That's my favorite city on earth. So I'd love that. All right. So everybody, go to How America Kill My Mother. com and check out Mr.

Ed Larson here. Otherwise, as I'm sure you can tell. He's an awesome fella. You guys are wonderful, too. I love having a dog. So happy. I got the,

that is one of the great things about this movie is we're buddies now. I know. I didn't know you. I didn't know you before it. Oh, that's right. Travis was like, do my buddy Ed's movie about how his mom died.

And I was like, what? That is true. All right. Well, great to see you, Ed. Peace out,

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