wellRED podcast - #190 - Middle School Bullies, Sobriety, and Shitty Teeth

Episode Date: October 14, 2020

This week we find out some adorable nicknames that Trae was called by the middle school girls, we discuss how shitty our teeth are, and The CHO gives us an update on his sobreity SPONSOR: LUCY.CO Promo Code RED

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They got three big old... Except you can sun Whenever you were in like middle school, did anybody ever call you Treyfer? Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Right on. Do they call you gay Trey? They did, yes. Of course they did. I mean, I knew that. Like, I figured that. Gay Trey. Trey is gay.

Trey is gay. Not in the happy way. They need to clarify. Need to clarify, that didn't mean the old, old-timey. I just, I just imagine miserable

13 year old, Trey going, no, you didn't. You didn't have to clarify. Yeah, I was but I was going, all the other girls were like, yeah, we totally knew it didn't mean happy. Look at him. It's so funny you said other girls,

because... Oh, my bad. No, no, no, I didn't say anything about it being girls, but it was, though. Somehow just knew. Yeah. The guys, I never got, like, bullied by guys, honestly, really, for the most part.

not that I could remember. It was always... You were getting bullied by girls? Well, I got bullied. That's pretty gay, bro. I know. No, that's what we're talking about right now that, like, you know, calling me gay and the chanting of the gay.

That was all girls that I went to school with. That's hilarious. Why do you think that was? Because I was just a little queer. Right, but, like, normally that was like... What? That's what? Did you say chanting?

No, the song, Trey is gay, Trey is gay. Not in a happy way. Not whatever. a little song, a little jingle that they came up with. But no, that was all girl. Chanting makes me think more than one girl did it at once. They did. Like the cheerleaders got together and we're like, okay, here we go.

Okay. I guess what I'm asking is like, normally, you know, I've been called gay by a lot of people, but like it was always like the dudes started it and then the girls would be like, yeah, my man thinks you're gay. But you're saying like, no, me and the dudes was cool. It was just the chicks that. dudes in my grade, for the most part. I was always cool with the dudes in my grade.

I don't know because they cheated on my math homework or whatever. We were always cool. The girls, because what I'm talking about now, this is like middle school stuff. So my experiences were limited just to my grade is my point. When I got high school later in the grades intermingle, there were plenty of dudes redneck old boys and other grades who very much considered and referred to me as a four or eight.

And you were fat too, right? Fat. Look, I'm recounting my experience here. So everybody's upset with that lame. Right. Sorry, I don't know what to tell you, but it's the truth. It wasn't like, I don't want to make it sound like, oh, I had it so rough in school.

No, no, no. Because I didn't, but it was also a thing. I mean, I had a gay uncle. Everybody knew he was bad. That very much played it. But he wasn't fat, though. No, no. No, it was just you that was fat and gay. He was just regular old gay. Exactly, yeah. But now, my homies in my grade and everything that I grew up with, they were always super cool and I never got none of that from them.

But like older kids when I got to high school, or again, the little bitches in my grade. I'm really all one of a day. Y'all have dug some shit up. I did not come into this expecting us to. I've always, you know, I knew you were woke about gay stuff because your uncle. I've always wondered why you were awoke by women's stuff and like never fall into the thing comics fall into about girls not ever being funny. But it's because you met some hilarious girls in the third grade. Well, and I mean, look at his sister dog. Not in the happy way.

That's such a good tag. If you, like, yeah, like if you've, if you've, if you've ever hung out with Tray's sister, Paige, once in your life, the words women aren't funny could not possibly leave your mouth in a sincere way. Did Paige start that chant? Did she write that? No, Paige would have whipped their asses if she- For sure.

Yeah, she's like overly, like you can do no wrong. She treats you like how my mama used to treat me. Yeah. Yeah, no. Like, Paige will be, Paige, if she hears this, will probably text me asking like who specifically it was. Right. So she can go whoop their ass.

and yeah, start some shit or whatever, because, I mean, she knows all the girls in my grandma. I want to know who specifically it was. I do, too. I want to go hit with them. Yeah. You want to go hit with them? It does hit.

Yeah. I don't know what the fuck they do. I mean, talk to them in a long time. They rat hallmark cards. Yeah. Trey is gay. Trey is gay. And we don't mean in the happy way.

Was that what it was? That's a fucking T-shirt. We should sell that for the well-red podcast. People wear that shit. Shark, Topper. Yeah. Now, I don't, and then also I got in high school, actually, I wasn't fat in high school, not the latter half of high school.

I was a fat kid. I lost weight in high school, and then I wasn't fat all through the latter part of high school or college, and that was fine. What? I'm just thinking of, like, you just being a fat kid and you were just called a fat one too many times and finally you're just i'm seeing like a rocky montage of you just punching baloney you know literally all that happened was i stopped drinking soda right and that did it um stop drinking soda and hit to those little girls how much soda were you drinking a lot i

have a flashball memory of i had decided i was going to lose weight i was freshman in high school when i was over this shit and i was i'm going to lose weight and i had started like because i pour white trash dumb fuck i didn't know how to properly go about it so i just started like basically not eating very much or as much like because i didn't know how it you lose weight you know what i mean like right i can't not eat ultra-processed garbage food i'm in sly on tennessee that's all there is here so like i just started eating less right and it wasn't i wasn't losing any weight at all and i remember again i'm fucking freshman in high school and i apparently didn't know that And, and, as you've told us a million times, the prodigy.

Yeah, the smart one. And I didn't know that drinks counted at all. I know. I'm with you, dude. And I can remember, I can remember the day. Like, I had been, for weeks, I've been eating less. I wasn't losing any weight. And I was like, what the fuck is going on?

And I came home from school one day, opened the refrigerator like I always did, grabbed my sunny D like I always did, housed about half of the bottle like I always did. And I set it back and I went to close the refrigerator door and I swear something made me just stop. I just stopped and I was like, wait a minute. And I opened it back up and I pulled it back out and I turned and looked at the nutrition information on the side or whatever. And I was like, Jesus. It just says, ain't none. Yeah, right.

And it just hit me all at once. I was like, dude, I can drink a whole bottle of this in a day. Easy. Easy. That's like 1,200 calories, you know. And then I realized, I was like, well, that's what the problem is. And I just cut all that out. I started drinking water and only water.

And I pretty much, unless I'm boozing, only drink water to this day and manage to find a way to get fat again. But anyway, once I cut that out and started drinking only water, that was I started losing weight after that. No, that, that drink thing, that happened to me too. But, like, I, like, just already wasn't drinking them for some reason anyways. Like, I don't know why. Like, I just did, I just was off. Like, I don't know. They just didn't taste as good to me or I was more.

parents who loved you? No, I mean, we, not, son, have you seen my goddamn dad, that fucking half a tub neapolitan ice cream hiding ass motherfucker? Like, don't even act like it wasn't some bullshit. But like, I don't know. You know what it was is that I didn't, all I drank was beer. Like pretty much everything. And one of my buddies is like, he'd lost a bunch of weight.

And, uh, and I was like, goddamn, man, how'd you do it? Like, you've been running a lot. And he's like, dude, I'd literally just stop drinking Coke. And I was like, what and like I knew that they had sugar and stuff in but like yeah in my mind like in order to lose weight surely you couldn't just cut out sody like that wouldn't but yeah man I mean hell not only does it count like it's so much easier to get 1,200 calories in juice than it isn't anything else like if you ate 1,200 calories in like actual food you'd start to get full you'd start to get full

before but like with the fucking juice bro I can like I could drink a whole easy drink a whole bottle of Welch's grape juice. Like if I was hung over or something like that, no problem by myself. Fucking, like you said, house, easy.

Right. And that would be, yeah, like a thousand calories or something. And then I'm still going to be hungry. Right, yeah, exactly.

I'm hungry right now. Me too. Well, I'm not actually supposed to, I'm not hungry. I'm bored. While we're digging out to my eyes. You're such a while lady.

I know. Well, I'm just saying, like, there's no way I'm hungry, bro. I've already had 2,000 calories today. I told you,

I woke up and had biscuits and gravy, and then I made meat love for lunch. What's funny about that is that conversation about juice and having all the calories, but you can't get full. I can't even make an argument. No, no, Corey, I get it. You've had calories, but the substance, like, no, you ate straight up meat and gravy. Meat and gravy, and then meat love for lunch. And then, I mean, bro, it ain't like I ain't snack.

I had my sour skittles because you got to get that goddamn meat love leaves that, you know, that meat taste in your mouth. I'll get that out. Quick story. The whole argument of like calories versus filling full, you know what I mean? Like some things have calories in them, but it's a small thing. So your stomach's going to want more even if the calories are there. I got an argument with a guy in law school that Micah lived with who was older than us about that.

We were drunk. And we were talking about IPAs versus Guinness, Guinness being something that is thick but has low calories in it. And I just ran my mouth long enough to him to where I got him to challenge me to where he was going to chug. of Guinness and I was going to chug an IPA. And it was just to get him to chug it. It might have been vice versa. I don't even remember. And I watched this man who played college football.

He was huge. I watched him chug a pitcher like just bottoms up of an IPA. It may have been Guinness. I don't remember who was who. Either way, it wasn't it. And he slammed it down in victory because I literally hadn't taken a drink. And then he processed what happened. And I've never made a man that big, that mad, and not have to get my

could a fight for me. Yeah, that hurt my belly thinking about it. I went through a period where, like, I exclusively chugged beer. Like, I would, like. Do you mean as opposed to chug anything else? Or you mean as opposed to drinking it any other way? As opposed to drinking it any other way. Like, I would, I would only, like, we'd go to this one specific bar.

I know. Yeah, what was to get drunk? It just, for me. Yeah. We'd go to this one specific bar, CBC. the Chattanooga Billiards Club, downtown Chattanooga. And they had $5 mini pitchers. So, I mean, you know, good.

Joe beer chug. That's CBC. Joe beer chug. There you go. But like they had $5 pitchers, which was like already a good deal anyways. And when they gave it to you, like, my whole thing was, oh, if I let it sit here too long, it'll get warm. There ain't nothing worse than warm beer.

So I just fucking get the mini pitcher and just chug it and then go, you know, I'd get like two at a time or whatever. And that's all I do is like, chugging. I'm afraid it's getting warm, so let me buy two. and drink a buh. Dude, listen how fucking stupid this is. We used to, I'm about to expose myself,

but whatever. We used to go there. We used to go there. At first it was Tuesdays, and we called it Tombstone Tuesdays. And then, but then we couldn't go on Tuesdays anymore because our buddy sass,

his shift changed. And so we had to start going on Wednesdays, but hey, that's fine. Western Wednesdays. Didn't even have to change the theme. You know what I'm saying? We'd go like dressed all fucking rowdy and

shit, go chug beers, choke motherfuckers out at the pool table, because Sass was there and he's like seven foot tall. So like, I'd just go pick fights with motherfuckers. I had no business picking fights with and then Sassard whoop their goddamn ass. But anyways, my point is, uh, literally never in that like year period, I didn't drink a single beer. I exclusively chugged pitchers and took shots of whiskey. It's a good year. Got a lot of pussy. Oh. How does that expose you? That's all. That's all very. That's all very. par for the course right there.

Yeah, I don't. I thought, no, I thought the Tombstone Tuesday and the Western Wednesdays was a bit much. I thought the theme was kind of. Yeah, but you're a bit much. What he means is not how would that expose a person. He specifically wants to know how that would expose you. Right, yeah, you're right. No, okay.

I kind of forget who I am sometimes. The only thing I was surprised to hear you, and I've done the same thing. So when I say own up to, I mean, I've done this, but hesitate to own up to it, is enjoying picking fights knowing you have a giant friend with you. It's so fun, though. Oh, it's awesome. You got Brian, dude. But, dude, I've had Brian, Micah.

Like, this tour is the first time of my life. And even in a bar, Tray looks pretty big. And let me, and please let me go back on that just a little bit. That was just the only way I should phrase it at the time. I still did. Like, I'm not trying to defend myself too much, but like, I wouldn't just go up and start fucking with somebody. It was, what it was was, was if somebody.

started kind of fucking around. Whereas normally I would have just been like, it's okay, man, you go ahead. Then I'd be like, what, say something, motherfucker. I didn't like actually go up and start fucking with people. It's just like I didn't give a shit when they started talking shit, you know? Yeah, I used to call that.

I had Big James, big name. Yeah, Big James. Being Big James used to go to the club all the time. Big James is the one that whooped the truck ass, right? He is, yes. Yeah, he whipped the truck's ass. And I went down, anyway, we used to go to club all the time. And it was very much that dynamic that you're talking.

Yeah, Robbie's that for me too. I used to call that calling their bluff on Micah's behalf. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Writing a check that Micah's going to have to cash. Well, they wrote it. I just took him to the bank. I was like, oh, you're trying to write a check. Let me take you to the bank.

Yeah, exactly. I wish Micah was here so he could tell how he got his jaw and tooth broke by a Boston college football player. But that particular time, that dude was trying to pick on one of our friends. And so I threw a basketball on him. I'll tell you how we could. over from there. I'll tell you how we could make Micah appear is go to any city in the world,

and Micah would be there. I don't even know, Micah, if you're listening, I don't know where the fuck you live. Like, literally, we just pop up in a city and boom, here's old Mr. fucking Lego Man Square Jall motherfucker himself. Well, the story with that is that Micah has to travel for work a lot. And then any time his brother, who's overseas, comes in, even if it's to a base somewhere, he goes there to see him. they're very close so mica does get around a lot and it just so happens that for one year on tour

micah showed up at like six different cities yeah it was wild who else has done that exact thing and i hate to bring it sucks i don't want to bring the moot down like everybody said but you know who used to do that is producer brice he did rest in peace man yeah uh would warn us though there was at least three times micha just would text me and be like can i come to the green room um we're talking about past trashiness and i was uh thrust back into that world this past week and I want to talk about it on here a little bit only in my mind thinking back on it remember on an earlier episode of the podcast been a long time now but people are long time listeners I'm sure they're sure they'll probably remember when drew told that story of

ripping out his own teeth on pills remember that right after we forget yeah my braces we got to talking about teeth and that but you know from you know we're shitty white trash and our teeth don't hit and up our teeth head I got extra tooth that don't hit neither and all this stuff and Being done with these, all that. Yeah, yeah, all that. We got into all that. And I don't hope you all remember, but I told the story on there. I was like, we were all talking about, we haven't been in the dentist,

and I hadn't at the time, last time I was at the dentist, I was 18 years old. And at the time when we're having this podcast episode, just probably two years ago, it had been like 15 years, 12, whatever, 14, 15 years since I've been in the dentist. And on the podcast, I justified it. And I was so aware about it. I was like, I know how ridiculous this is,

but it also was legitimate, the legitimate justification I used in my head for never going to the dentist. I told you all that. I was like, the last time I went, the dental hygienist at the dentist office in Jackson County, Tennessee. So this 55-year-old Aunt Fay woman who went to a trade school for 13 months in the 70s, told me, she told me when I was in there that she was like, and she was like, And she didn't even say why she said this. She just looked at my teeth and then she told me, she goes, whatever it is that you do to take care of your teeth, if you keep doing that,

you will never have a significant problem. You'll never have a significant dental problem the rest of your life. And I was like, all right, because all I do is brush once, usually, not always. But you never flush, no listerine, floss, never floss, no listerine, nothing. and I just took that as the gospel.

And I was like, shit, I don't need to be dentist. Fuck it. My teeth are good. Yeah. Fast forward 16 years later, you know, got a whole family making the kids go to the dentist, Katie for a couple years now. I was like, you need to go to the dentist, right? And I just wasn't.

I was like, no, my teeth are fine. A couple, started a couple weeks ago, my gums started to really hurt, like, really, only on the right side. Yeah. But they really hurt, like, to the touch. Oh, that's where you put, that's where you rest your side. sows, ain't it? No, I'll do that on the bottom left and it's fine out there. It's just, it's a good theory. I can't believe you forgot that. I know, but and so I find it's been a while

since I baby birded him his sours, but I was like, I need or I'm fine, I'm going to have to go back to the dentist because like this hurts. I've got an actual problem now. This don't hit. So I made a dentist appointment and I went on Friday and, uh, no cavities, no decay, no nothing. What? Yeah, because my teeth don't hit, but do hit. Right. Like the dude, the dentist was like, wow, you are incredibly fortunate.

Like, you really have a bit of the dentist. Because they look terrible. They do look, and they do look terrible. The dental hygienists, I might to go back four times for one tooth cleaning. She got out her big, like a buffer that she had, she was, She was like, this is like a dental drag hammer that she has to take to the tartar to get off my teeth. They are not they're in terrible shape as far as how they look, but like structurally and health-wise or whatever, they're like as good as teeth can be. I imagine them getting the people that curl in the Olympics up on your fucking mouth.

You have a- Because Katie's had like three rope canals in the past year or whatever, and she brushes and flosses twice a day. Yeah, and her teeth look amazing. I came back from the dentist that day and she was like, so? and I was like, well, no issues. She was like, are you fucking kidding me? Your teeth, your teeth are like that old, that like 65-year-old drunk roofer from everybody's hometown. It's like, he looks like shit, but God damn, there he is.

Yeah. And well, Drew actually, Drew actually got the exactly right. Your is way more. Like on that previous episode, I told that story and I was like, and that's why I don't worry about my teeth. And I know that's hilarious and stupid, but it's true. And you proved her up. Drew said he was like, I don't remember where you'd heard it from. He was like, no, there's a thing.

There's like, there's a certain type of bacteria. And they think that really, no matter what you do, your teeth and whatnot, really it comes down. This bacteria causes cavity and tooth decay. And different people have different amounts of it. So there are people that can brush and floss twice a day and rinse and all this shit and still have to have a root canal every year. And obviously that very don't hit. And then on the other end of the spectrum, there's fucking trash. people like me who can just brush and that's it and they don't have a lot of that bacteria

in their mouth and so their tastes are fine and that's what the that's what the dentist told me on Friday I just don't that bacteria that causes cavities and stuff and huge amounts I just don't have hardly any of that and I'm extremely lucky in that way so I'm sure that but when I heard about it I thought you could get it from your significant other because I'm pretty sure I heard about it from Ben who never had a cavity in his life till he got married to a dentist. Huh. Well, I don't know because Katie definitely has...

Y'all don't be kissing. That's what it is. You make her brush her teeth. You like brush your teeth before I kiss you, Katie. Yeah, I mean, we don't do that. Yeah, we don't be doing that either, so... Kissing? Yeah, don't hit.

I don't know. Straight to it, son. Fuck the previews. I came here to say Star Wars, baby. Is that what's playing? That's what's playing? By the way, the gum thing? Episode one.

Yeah, yeah, trust me. It's episode one. It don't hit. It don't hit. And the little guy's annoying as hell. Yeah, God, it don't hit. Anyways, this episode is sponsored by Blutton.

The gun. Oh, it really is. I totally forgot. I'll plug that in. The gum thing I was convinced was like some kind of serious problem because it came up out of nowhere. And it was like, how could it not be? My gums are just rot. My mouth is right.

My gums is right. right, my whole head going right. That's what it is. But it turns out it's just literally the like Carter buildup and just how much my tape didn't hit from a cleanliness perspective. Right. It was protecting. That can irritate your gums.

That's, you got, make them hurt like a motherfucker. So I did, they did that tooth cleaning and I've been like flossing and shit this week, and my gums are totally fine now. I heard too. The mouth is like that stinky kid that never gets sick. Gets or lice because the lice just slide right at its motherfucking hair because it's so greasy. See, y'all think y'all had it bad, being poor, but look at this. Just, what, what?

Your teeth? What's up with your teeth? No, well, here's the thing. I'm, I'm probably sure I told this on the podcast last time, but it's true. Not, I mean, not too, too long ago. My, well, I had an emergency, that's what was, I had an emergency situation like two years ago or something like that, where I had an abscess tooth. That was longer than two years ago because it was.

That was pretty. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Because that's why you moved to New York. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

You're right. You're right. But either way, that right there is the sole time. I haven't been to the dentist since then. That was it. I haven't been to the dentist since I cut my braces out. And before then, though, before then I hadn't been in the dentist and forever.

And like, they asked me when they're, how long it's been since you've been to the dentist? And I was like, I don't know. And I went home. And I was like, I asked mom. I was like, she's like, when's the last time we went to the dentist? I said, well, you know, I hadn't gone because Dr. Print, my dentist died. Like, my dentist had died.

And I was like, yeah, you know, Dr. Prince died. So, I mean, I just, you know, of course I hadn't been in the dentist. It's too hard on me, you know. I'm not ready. And what about mom was like, mom gone on the internet and looked up his obitry? My fucker died in 03. So, like, I've just, I ain't been able to get over it. Yeah, man.

Been meditating, reading a lot of books about it. You know, trying to get through this. But I didn't have no cavities, though. Like, it was just like I had an abscess, which is like just a freak thing. But I didn't have no cavities, but I'm in the same position as you that my teeth do not hit. Like they look horrible, but there's no cavities. They just suck. Well, see, and actually, you know, me and you have taught so much, Corby about, like, I've been done with these.

I'm getting veneers the second we start crushing hard, son. I'm filing these motherfuckers to the nub, boy. Okay. But see, this. has made me, I don't know about that because it's like, you're right, these look terrible, but they almost have this like superpower. Right. Yeah, they repel everyone with a camera. It's the extra one. No, I do. Well, we could just, I mean, we could maybe like do something to try to make these heads. We could get, no, we could. I mean, we could just get them bleached. Right. Yeah,

like that. Trey, they will try to get rid of your extra one if you go to any kind of cosmetic doctor. telling you that is your Achilles. Mm-hmm. That's your secret power. That's your Samson's hair, man. That motherfucker's just been sitting there rubbing caramel on it for 15 years and ain't got cavity one. I got a brief white trash two story.

I'm going to have to go to the dentist. And he's making this appointment because I bit into turkey. My dad killed and I bit into buckshot. Oh, no. It didn't break, but it's been hurting ever since. Well, the turkey we were cooking was for Jacob to take to my nephew to take to his Spanish class for cultural something day where they were going to make cassidias, but with Appalachian food. So he made turkey casadias.

But his buddy also bit into Buckshot. So Jake took turkey to school for Spanish class and his buddy broke his tooth on. Man, that is fucking hilarious. Yes, indeed. but hey by the way now that we're here um i'm kind of thinking of like turkey dressing and maybe like a little cranberry rumelod cassidia like a whole Thanksgiving cassidia would be pretty tight well be Thanksgiving same yeah use a whole wheat slap tortilla so hard yeah i think i feel like a whole wheat tortilla yeah thanksgiving burrito which what is a burrito but a rounder cassidia that's musher

Yeah. See, that's always my thing on burritos. I didn't make one. I think I had a Thanksgiving burritos at somewhere on the road once, whatever, and I recall it. As I've always said, burritos are too much for me. I would rather have, I know, hear me out.

How do you think about you? Oh, really? No, no, no, you know, this is a me and my wife thing. It's no, no, no, and I'll eat a burrito and have. And we'll get, I'll go fucking good goddamn burrito right now. On this podcast episode. I want to eat a goddamn burrito. My point is,

you're afraid of them. My point is that... How is it too much when you talk about you ate gravy and meatloaf today? No, no, no. I mean, in one bite.

What I'm saying is, no, I'll have the same amount, but my thing is, all Mexican food as we know and as Jim Gaffkin has explained in several bits, is the same ingredients just cooked differently.

I would, if I'm going to go somewhere that has a burrito, I would rather just have all those same ingredients in three casadillas. It's the same thing. I like the first.

flat or more crispy thing. I don't like so much of a mush. So to me, it's just too much. It's like a burrito to me, especially how they're making them now, like they're getting real crazy with them. They're doing like in the burrito world, they're kind of going. And this is when it started for the record. I never felt this way about burritos.

In the burrito world, they're starting to go the way of the burger, whereas they want to make it this big monstrosity thing. And I look at that and I'm like, dude, I don't want something that I'm going to have to eat three times and cut in half or whatever. I'm going to fuck it. So I'll get a cassidia. You know what I'm saying? So it's not that it don't taste good.

it does taste good. It's the consistency. There's too much mush. I like to have about a 2-1 ratio of meat and innards to the tortilla, not like a 5-1-which-is what a burrito is. That's what I mean. Obviously, I like the ingredients. I agree.

I am having a hard time hearing you disparage mush. I like mush. I've seen you eat mush. I've seen you name foods mush that wasn't called mush and insist we get mush. I like mush. I'm just saying if I'm going the way of wrapping a tortilla around something, I want to experience the crispy part of it throughout. And it just,

it's too much mush. I agree completely about the burritos and how they're getting out of control with it. It is just like they've done with burgers. Like those fucking, I hate those burgers. You see a restaurant post a picture of a burger and it's got to be held together with a steak knife. Don't hit.

Yeah, because it'll topple over if it didn't have steak knife. And it's like, burgers are meant to be held in your hands. It's a handheld thing. And get with your mouth like that. Like, what are you doing with this shit? This is stupid.

And they, there are a place, yeah, burritos, a lot of places are treating burritos that same way. But just like a burrito that ain't that just hits, I fucking love a good burrito. No, I hear you. California burritos are. They're like popular in San Diego. They have like avocado in them and shit. Oh, you wouldn't expect it. Fucking French fries.

And that ain't it. No, that's some Pittsburgh shit. I know. Pittsburgh. They put French fries. on their sandwiches and then out here they got a certain type of burritos got french fry i don't don't be adding french fries and stuff i agree with that put it on the side too much starch anyway like just leave it out have you gotten any burritos at little mexican places out there

and the reason i asked is and i don't even know if this is true i've always heard that burritos is really as we know them it ain't really mexican food you know what i'm like it ain't really like how they do it and it ain't really a thing i don't even know if that's true you broke you you broke up, you said burritos is what? I've always heard that the way you know that ain't really Mexican food. Oh, I'm sure it's not. But as we've been over before,

I still break. I like the, you know, I like the in authentic Mexican. But the California burrito is like San Diego thing. Like it originally. It's popular. What I'm saying is those places, like we get tacos a lot.

and Andy wants them way more than me. And insert joke. And I didn't want tacos one night, and I got a burrito. And I was like, this is going to suck because this place, they're just like looking to me like, here's a gringo or not a burrito. This ain't even real Mexican food. But man, perfect. Like the mush you're telling me, I don't know, Corey. I know what you're saying if it's like all innards.

But if it's all meat and rice, I'm starting to bounce. If it's all meat and rice with a little bit of sour cream. It don't. It don't. hit. It don't not hit. I just would prefer the other things. Like, dude, if I went to, if we were eating and like, I was hungry and they're like, all it is is burritos, I'd be like, no, fuck yeah, I'm having a burrito. It's just like if I get to choose, it's usually going to be a, you know, cassidia or like an enchilito, something with more of a two to one ratio. You know, that's just me.

Well, I think the rice, I think the rice, the rice definitely fucking helps. God, damn. it, son. That ain't, that's not really, but the right, rice hadn't been kind to me as of like, because it feels like the last, uh, we do, uh, we do, we do, we do, we do, we do, we do, we do, we do, we do, we do, we do, we do, sponsor, but we do it. And, uh, most of Amber's favorite meal, well, my number one favorite meal is beef, it's the rice.

And like last week, I feel like we got so much, it was so rice heavy, but I just couldn't quit. And that's another thing. Rice is the juice of foods. in terms of it. I don't know about that. In terms of it. You sit there and drink juice all goddamn day and I didn't realize you're getting calories. But dog, rice, you're saying you could do that with rice. Rice fills man up. Yeah, but it, you have to stop before you know it did.

You get hungry an hour later. That's true of everything. No, yeah, well, yeah, for the most part, but like if I eat a full sandwich and don't stop, like, as I'm eating the full sandwich, I'm like, ooh, I'm getting full. but if I'm just eating a goddamn bowl of rice or like some sort of rice, but like, you know, like any type of bowl situation where it's like, here's what we're doing. It's meat and sauce and rice.

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Joe, I have a theory. I want to check. Not a theory. But I'm the greatest pitch man of all time. It's not a theory, bro. It's just real. I was, this isn't a theory.

I'm curious about something. When's the last time? You still catching, catching ones? When's the last time you caught one? Just a minute ago, if you watch this podcast on YouTube, which I don't know if our listeners are familiar,

you can do that. We put each episode up, video forms since Zoom started on YouTube. And you can random, you'll randomly see me just, just, But I don't, but not near as much, not near as much because it was. That's what I was curious about.

I was wondering if, you know, you've gotten your life together outside of kitchen. Yeah. Other than that, you've gotten your life together. And I wondered if it was having an effect on how many ones you catch. For everybody listening, well, I know we talked about four, Corey catches one, and that's just when he has a miniature seizure, kind of strokes out a little bit. Yeah.

And some of the, they vary in the degree to cartoonishness that they have. I've seen him basically throw himself out of an elevator or into oncoming traffic before. But oftentimes it's just a little like, just a little like, you know, Twitch. Whatever. But so you think it has had an effect? I know for a fact that it has. I know for a fact that it has. I think that that was like, it was like my anxiety and my fatigue, like meeting each other.

And I was like catching myself awake, you know, like literally catching one. So no, like I'll still, from time to time, I'm like, I think I've got like a mild tick, like on God. Like, I mean, I have something's going on. But no, I, like so many things have been different. I remember, like, I remember. I have a calendar on my phone and I remember to put stuff in the calendar, but also for the most part, I just be remembering stuff now, like to do.

Like, I'll just know. You mean from like a long time ago or? Oh, that's been actually a negative consequence of this because you forget how much alcohol and drug consumption is used primarily to mask your demons. And then when you stop doing it, here they're like, all right, well, it's time for us to show up and party. And that's actually like, you know, when you first start cleaning yourself up and you're like, dude, I'm not doing this every day.

I'm not, you know, going to get. And when I do, I'm not going to get black out and drink to like three or four in a morning. Like I'm not doing that. That's one of the, that's like from the, not even just the chemical part, but just the like, literally, the day like I'll just I'll just remember something and my first my go to is like go grab vodka ground the bad shit you know get that out of here um but yeah no I'm remembering but no I'm

remembering like like a tag like you if you tell me hey next Tuesday we're going to do a thing obviously I'm going to put it in my calendar like I do everything but like I'll wake up Tuesday and have remembered that you told me that it's the craziest goddamn thing in the world yeah no that is why I'm coming from you I know because I know that's very much been a thing Oh, yeah, because I was just always drunk. So, like, it's not that I'd, I mean, yeah, I would technically forget, but like, it depends on if you tell drunk Corey something, why would you expect sober Corey to remember it?

Doesn't make any sense. That's right. It was your fault. I mean, I agree. Well, I mean, I have to, I don't know. I've got to use my damn calendar now anyway. Well, I still do. Like, I never wouldn't.

Even a factor in it for me. Because I, I, I'm the exact opposite. I mean, you know, I don't worry about this. I feel like it just happens as you get older. But I'm the exact opposite. for a long, long time I had like a, my memory was insane and I never needed to write like anything down and commitments or whatever. I always just had it up here, no problem.

People's names and that, I'm losing some of that. It's like I said, it's just like getting older. But also there's so much more, there's so much, there's no routine to our schedules. Yeah, it's hard. Random times on random days and they come up out of nowhere. And I think that's part of it too, but I can't. And we, and we, especially with us being down here and you being there, like the times always fuck me up. I can't do that anymore.

So I have to keep like, I have to put it in, and something comes up, I put it in my calendar. Me too. Oh, me too. I'll forget. Again, like I net, dude, if I, listen, if I've got something to do at 9 o'clock PM and I'm laying down for a nap at 1 p.m. I'm still setting my alarm because I don't trust that I won't sleep for eight hours. I don't trust anything. So I'm going to write it down.

I'm just saying like this. And it was funny. like when you sober up, you start thinking that things are superpowers that are actually just how everybody else has been. Yeah, it's just how everybody else has been forever. Is that Andy? No, that is my niece. Okay.

I just seen brown hair. I can't. I'm just seen brown hair, you know, doing something in the background while you were trying to work. It seemed like Andy. I did look like Andy back here. But yeah, like it's crazy. Like I wake up.

some days thinking like that I'm like I've tapped into like some spider man shit and then it's just like no son this just how like a lot of your friends have felt forever well let's do another update have you did you drink for football this weekend no man I was like no and nor did it and nor and again it's really weird it wasn't like I had to be like okay I'm not drinking it didn't want to had no desire whatsoever I drank during the Tennessee now now let me before you go on after the literal first play of the game, about dead. Yeah. Yeah, I drank during the Tennessee, Georgia game, and when the game was over, I stopped, which is odd considering how it went for a Tennessee fan. You'd think I would have just dove further into the bottle,

but I didn't. And out here, that's like 4 p.m. It's not late. Right. So I drank, I only during while I was sitting there watching the game. I didn't get hammered or nothing. I was just drinking while watching the game. I stopped at 4 p.m.

I stayed up until midnight. It was stone colds over by the time I went to sleep, and I swear to God, I still felt like shit yesterday. Like the type of like shit you feel when you, you know, drank the night before. And I spent most of the day yesterday upset at my own body and everything for how shitty I felt. In my head, I was like, I went about drinking yesterday just about as responsibly as I feel like it's possible to do. And I still don't fucking feel good. And it makes anything yesterday and today I feel a million times better.

Does that make you think like, God, I mean, because to me, this is what, this is how Chos brains work when that happens when I have like, let's say, oh, I go out to like a social thing and I'm only going, I have, I had six drinks instead of my normal 18 and staying up until 3 o'clock in the morning. I have six drinks instead of doing that. But then I wake up the next day feeling as if I'd have done the other thing because we're as old, that makes me just go, you know, it's old if you're going to be a monkey big gorilla. So like when I get drunk, I get drunk. Now, I totally say we were coming from on that, but I did still feel like shit yesterday, but it's not an equivalent level of shitting this for me on the record. Like if I really tie one on and go to bed and drunk and wake up like I will feel like shit for three days. Yeah, it's at least two for me for sure.

Right. Well, the other one, yeah, I'm going to feel a little worse the next day, but it ain't, it's nowhere near the same thing in terms of severity. so it still isn't, it don't take me to that place. Yeah. What about you, Drew? You'd be drunk. He'd be drunk. He'd be drunk.

I drink. I drank Friday. I had four Guinness, the tall boys, when I did mine and DJ's show, Eat Fruit Friday, and felt terrible Friday night. Like an hour later, I felt bad Saturday night, too, but that didn't surprise me because I was like, well, it's like I got hung over. that going to sleep. Right, right, yeah.

Right. That's what I was hoping for too. Yeah, that don't hit. Next day, similar, man. I felt terrible the next day, uh, which was Saturday. And I didn't feel great Sunday.

Sunday I didn't feel like stick or whatever, but I just felt like down. Lethargic. Yeah. Yeah. Like I didn't want to. And I thought I had COVID and Andy was like, no,

you just can't drink anymore. Well, dude, it's funny that you say that because it is like every single time I've been hung over during this shit, no matter what, I'm like, I got it. I got Rona.

Like, I fucking got, like, my immune system was down. I went somewhere last night and licked something I shouldn't have licked. Like, I don't know what I fucking did.

But yeah. That's the other thing. If you were drinking, you're like, I don't even know what I did. So I probably did get it. For sure, for sure.

But like, my thing too is like, it's genuinely not even a, not so much of just like the pure hangover. Lethargy. Is lethargy? Is lethargy? Is it lethargy or lethargy?

Lethargy. Lethargy. Lethargy, but you get less thoric. Right. Right. It's not even just the lethargy wherever. Like my anxiety, which usually feeds into my depression, is just so much more at bay and better now.

That's really my big hang up. It's not like. That's mine. So like on Saturday, when I'm sitting there and I know it's the game. And there's, of course, there's, dude, it's college football. I made a dip. You know, I got the crock pot going. I've been eating, I've been making and eating the fuck out of dips.

Dip hits. I've been. I want a good dip. buddy i've been like playing i i broke velvita back out oh yeah my lost love i hadn't seen belvita in a while you can't break belvita oh yeah so i never left uh but but the thing my thing is like that that goes so hand in hand with and i want like i wanted a beer like i want to be drunk it's just like yeah you crack a beer it's the game on but like my brain wasn't going like oh but you'll feel like

shit tomorrow it really wasn't i can i can handle a hangover was like dude monday you'll depressed. You'll still be depressed. Like your anxiety is going to go crazy and you got shit. You got it. I just, and like, I don't know, man, like, I really, I didn't know how much, I genuinely didn't know how much alcohol had to do with my anxiety and depression. This is so stupid in hindsight. It's absolutely insane to think about. But in my mind, it was like, I'm depressed and anxious. I better tie one on that because like, because while you're drunk, you're good. You know, you're good to go. And I just thought, so like during my hangovers in the next couple days, I was like, yeah, when I'm not drunk, I'm just real anxious.

But it's the complete opposite. Like, that was why. So it's just so hard for me to put myself. And it's a bummer. Like I wish that, because I know, I've always been the type of person who can just get drunk and then not drink for several days. But it's just, I don't know that life is too short to have two days where I'm like,

my career's over. I'm going to fucking kill myself. And what am I do, take pills? I mean, pills do it. I said I felt like shit yesterday and I did. but part of it also was like I had like two, two minor things I had to do that were work related yesterday. And I mean like minor.

One of them was sending audio files for the skews or whatever. That is difficult. And the other one was like responding to an email or something. Yeah. I didn't get those done until like 8 p.m. last night because I just couldn't stomach the thought of doing getting up. Yeah, getting up and doing anything. Yeah.

I feel like worth this piece of shit. I was like, I can't do it. I'll never do anything again. I can't. But then my other part of my brain would tell myself, like, you just feel like this because you're a little hungover and you're drunk yesterday and by tomorrow, you're not drinking it all the day.

By tomorrow, you'll be right back in the saddle and you'll be right. Which is accurate. And then that's what happened. But like you said, it's just not, like ain't worth it. It's not worth it. And I've gotten better. Go ahead. I was going to say, you made me think of this.

I had an audition. And it's a storytelling. thing and I ran the story on the Zoom show Friday to practice and was like, okay, I know what I need to work on, blah, blah, blah. And then I just, I couldn't do it till late yesterday. And then I recorded it this morning. It's due today. And I recorded it this morning.

And I got it out, no problem. But like, I couldn't do it this weekend. Like I tried. I went and like set the camera up and did it. I had no energy. Like I was missing all my transitions. It sucked. Yeah, that man.

It's weird how that works. because like almost everything I do, I mean, not almost it, but a good deal of the things I do that I like I put off. Like once you sit down and do them, you're like, that literally took three minutes and was the easiest thing in the world.

Why don't you, but it's like, that's how depression works. It don't fucking matter for son. I, though, I want, I love the podcast as like a snapshot of our lives

at this hour on Monday, which is when we usually record. Like you, a person could randomly discover us later. listen to this episode, you know, enjoy it and be like, all right, let me listen to another one. Fast forward three months from now. And, buddy, we got ripped. Oh, yeah.

We could be hammered on the episode, especially if we get back on the road. Oh, buddy. That's so funny. Everything we're saying is pointing to stop. Absolutely. Yeah. 100%. Yeah, but I'm not, no.

No, me neither. Me neither. No, no. No, that don't hit. Because we go back to touring. I mean. I'm going back to drunk, right? Let me tell you it.

But I told you the other day, and I meant this, man. When I told it, like I called it when I said I got drunk during the Georgia Auburn game. I told you all before, it wasn't like it snuck up on me. I've been sober for five weeks. I was like, I'm getting drunk during this game. And the reason is, and I'll repeat it again for anybody that didn't hear it, it's because once you've been sober about five weeks, you stop getting, it stops like every day isn't a surprise anymore.

You level out and you need to get drunk and reset. And so, like Auburn, like Georgia, plays Alabama this coming weekend. Who knows? I mean, that'll be three weeks sober. I might get drunk. You know, why? Because nothing feels better than getting sober.

Being sober, don't hit. Getting sober. Super hits. Man, I might like an actual, like, therapist, listeners. Rock bottom life has ended alcoholic, who now, as a counselor or whatever, listening to us talk about any of this,

but especially you've been like, no, the hit in this part. is falling off the wagon and getting back up. When you climb back on it, that's the only part of hits. It is. Keeping it together, don't hit. Dude, listen to me. When's the last...

20 days wouldn't be special if it weren't for a ragging, man? When's the last time you got on a wagon and it wasn't to go do something to hit? You know what I'm saying? Like, getting on a wagon's awesome. It also is funny. We're talking about how if we drank within the past 48 hours, we can't find it within ourselves to answer an email.

And I know Thompson's listening right there. It's like, try being a drunk and having to go to a roof job bullsies oh look Corey's wearing his yellow shirt again good for you

queer I think I think that being active makes it easier to be a drunk I do think that it does

he sweats it out makes that your life easier we're the ones to have it hard really Thompson that's that's not

what I meant or said I know what you mean if you actually it does go through it and you sweat a little bit

or whatever it does make you feel a little bit better. Which means we could just get up and work out, but, well, you do that. I do. I do. While you're hung over?

Yeah. And it helps, but I don't, I don't, I still don't. That ain't it. No. I tweeted today that I can't wait. I just want to be in a city where I don't know where I'm at, telling a new joke, and then go to a diner and eat a breakfast, Rito, and get drunk. I know, man.

It's going to hit. I was thinking about it last night. I was watching, I was watching one flu over the kook. Kuznest. And it was a scene where Jack Nicholson is freaking the fuck out because it's the World Series and he wants to watch the series and like he's trying to convince Nurse Ratchet to let him watch it and she's being a total bitch. And like he was sitting there freaking out just because he wanted to watch one ball game

and then like they're about to break out. He's orchestrating this entire breakout just so they can go to a bar and watch one baseball game. And there'd be part of me, at one point it'd be like, ah, it ain't worth getting caught breaking out just to go to a bar and watch one ball game. That whole thing sounded so appealing to me. Like just being at a bar with no one I know having one cold beer watching a sport that I don't watching Highline, any sport, I don't give a shit, men competing, me at a bar, someone I don't know, cold beer. It's saying, oh, God, it sounds so fucking good. By the way, I don't know when the last time y'all saw that movie was, but holds the fucks.

Did you say one flu over the cuckoo's nest? Yeah. And her name, her name is Nurse Ratchet on there? Yeah. I didn't realize. The show's a prequel. The show's a prequel. I think that's probably why the movie is on Netflix.

It is. Netflix made a prequel show about Nurse Ratchett's sorry existence. Yeah. Oh, I thought, I knew that, but I thought that show was somehow related to American Horror Story. No, it's just Sarah Paulson. I think it, actually, isn't it a run-urpee joint or something? I think it has creators.

Oh, but like the storyline is not connected at all. No, no, no. It has nothing to do. Well, you know how an American Horror Story they're all dead? No. Well, no. I do now. Every season of American Horror Story is a different story, but with the same

actors and the same writers. And I've watched like two of the seasons of it or whatever. Do they hit? No. I thought, I thought, they don't, they don't,

they don't hit. They're like, they're like, shit like that, but Katie is. Well, even if you are, dude,

it's, um, what's the day-tempor popper. I can love that show. It's a soap opera horror story. That's all it is. It ain't for me.

Amber, do you like American horror story? Yeah, Amber likes it, don't hit. Andy likes it. All our wives like it. Yeah.

Check, check, check. Check your booty. Yeah, Ryan. That's what I thought. Ratchet is a Ryan Murphy joint, and he's the guy behind American horse. And Hollywood. Yeah, in Hollywood. And Nicktuck and Glee, he is a billionaire probably.

Oh, you do. Yeah. He's one of those empire holder. Yeah. Hollywood. Like, he's got his own him and Sean. Shonda. Rice, yeah, and Tyler Perry.

Chuck Lori, Tyler Barry. Yeah, they have fucking. That's a wild. thing to be. Hell yeah. It would hit. It would hit. Oh, dude, listen.

As much, as much, no, of course not. But as much shit is like everyone talks. Like how insane. It's like, okay, well, all they do is put out, all right, go be chucked, go do that. You know, I don't know what to tell you, but like, yeah, that would hit. But I had, but I did watch one of those other cuckoo's nests. And like, I'm not even saying, like, you know, considering when it came out and considering that, I mean, that movie straight up could have frame for frame, line for line for

line been shot yesterday and I would still think it was one of the greatest movies of all time. It's so fucking good. Yeah, Christopher Lloyd hits. Unreal. Dude, I hadn't seen it since I was like a very, very long time ago. I've done plum forgot goddamn Danny DeVito's ass was in it. It's wild to see him in there as that. Because that's like the youngest I've ever seen Danny DeVito was taxi and he still look old.

Right. You know, it's wild. he a wild looking motherfucker he's a wild thing to be i love i love dana de vito he's fucking awesome uh but yeah he's one of those people every now and then there's certain people and i'll try to think about the good examples but dada vito is absolutely one of them who like every now and then i'll just think like god what a wild thing yeah yeah yeah he's like he's like he's like an icon dude he's a huge star he's a staple massively successful and everything.

I think he's at Staples. What a wild. And also, here's how good he is. I can't remember the last time that he just played the short guy on something. Like, it's never been that. Like, he is short, obviously, but like it's never a defining characteristic of him.

Twins, but that was different. Okay, sure, yeah, yeah. We're coming up on an hour, but I'm glad you reminded me of something that I forgot to put in my notes that I wanted to ask you all about. and it's comedy related, but also a hugely famous person.

You're talking about taxi and Dan Davido, and it made me think about that I wanted to ask you about this. Where do y'all stand on Andy Kaufman? I stand on Andy Kaufman. I can't, like, probably, like, if I, if somebody came up to me and just started talking, if I was talking to somebody and they said that

Andy Coffin was their favorite comedian, I know that I'd hate him. I'd be like, get to shut the fuck up. No, he's not, you idiot. Name is best joke, you fucking ballwashing piece of shit. But like, but like I have a lot of respect. But like I kind of feel like the way I feel about Andy is like, you know, when we found out.

Huh? They did they did a different thing. I definitely respect. I definitely probably respect Lenny. Like Andy Kaufman towed the line between like being a genius at what it is that I do, but also do you respect what I do or are you just trying to fuck around? And like I feel like a dude like that always like no matter what, there's always an excuse for.

Like if Andy Kaufman did something that was shitty, it was just you don't understand his brilliance. You know, no, he was going for something else here. And at a certain point with dudes like that, I'm like, all right, so infallible because they're just, they hover above this. But at the same time, he's a huge wrestling fan. All the stories I've heard, like Jerry Lawler and all these dudes tell about him. Like, he was one of the sweetest dudes that really, like, he loved it being a work. And he just loved the fantastical soap opera of not only wrestling, but comedy. So, I mean, I think the guy did have a streak of brilliance,

but I think that some people have possibly Bill Hicksed him, as it were, over the years. That's my thoughts. I thought you were going to go with it. All right, but hold on. Bill Burr just was on S&L, and he is, you know, taken over the Twitter discourse for a day. People are always misogynist. Other people are always brilliant, this and that. You can be both, by the way.

Sure. and some of my, some people I saw talking about, and they made this point, and it's completely true. One of the problems with a guy like Bill Burr is not Bill Burr, but everybody who wants to be like him. Now, Corey, you kept saying the phrase, a guy like that, a guy like that. There's been so many, you know,

Andy Coffman was a weird thing. And that being said, I can think off the top of my head, three people who tried something similar who were terrible. And they have fans, I don't mean terrible like nobody liked them. I mean, it wasn't for me. I think Andy Kaufman is hands down a genius.

I think that if you look at his whole body of work, the stuff he did with wrestling, and then going on late night TV shows and doing that, where you don't even know if the host was in on what he was doing, the host a time or two, it seemed like they didn't know. Yeah, for sure. He was actually friends with Jerry Lawler, Jerry Lawler. That absolutely belies a lack of respect for late-night comedians.

who hosts the TV show. But you can look at it that way, or you can look at it as, I'm a comedian, my job is to take the piss out of stuff. Yeah. And this is a very powerful institution, you know,

the late show or whatever it was at the time, whatever it was called. And I'm with that. You know, did he do it to people who maybe didn't deserve it? Probably. But he was great at it. I think Rohrat is an amazing film.

It's one of the funniest movies of all time and it doesn't exist without Andy Kaufman, in my opinion. For sure. And so he did get Bill Hicks, but like, do I blame Bill Hicks or do I blame all these people who think Bill the greatest thing ever? I agree with you. Yeah, yeah, and I hope I didn't come off. Yeah, you know what, I guess it was just, it's so inside with us that I know that you know that I meant that.

Like when I say that, I mean, like, you know, it's like the classic Tim Wilson. I love Johnny Cash, hate Johnny Cash fans. Same thing. I didn't mean to come off like that because, like, I certainly, I mean, hell, I've outlined a podcast that culminates with the last episode. being about Andy Kaufman in wrestling. I definitely have a deep admiration and respect for him. I just, at a certain point,

at a certain point, you just don't know. It's like, well, do you, like sometimes you line eyes somebody, because they die early. That just happens.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm not talking shit any other way. That's what I, like, when I brought up Lenny Bruce, I thought it was going a direction of like we've talked about before, like,

preface is, like, I have an insane amount of respect. for Lenny Bruce. That's the whole point of what I'm about to say. Yeah. I fully, because as a student of comedy and a comedy nerd and a committee and myself,

I fully appreciate what Lenny Bruce meant to comedy. You're talking about there wouldn't be a bore at without Andy Coppin, whether it would be a Bill Burr without Lenny Bruce, you know, or anybody. Anybody. Us, you name it. Yeah, the art form may not have taken off. Right. And I understand and respect that.

Having said that, I don't, I've went back and listened to, to Lynn Bruce stuff or whatever. And, like, Lenny Bruce has pretty much never once made me last. No, comedy ages like Brad, especially that type. Yeah, so I don't find Lenny Bruce funny, but I acknowledge the role he played and the importance of it. And I thought you were going in a similar direction to that with Andy Kaufman, where it's like most of the stuff Andy Kaufman did didn't really, like, hit for me.

But if you'd have been there. but I can like appreciate fully the importance of Andy Kaufman and how that's where I'm at groundbreaking and influential he was and how much you meant all this stuff and I've listened to I listen to a lot of industry podcasts I was listening to one of this guy who's like an old TV producer been around for years and according to him and it might be like a lie nice thing where it's become like the stuff of legend but according to him the people on taxi I'm not saying everybody on taxi but at least some of the like suits and producers involved with taxi and getting it made, according to this guy,

did not know at first that Andy Kaufman wasn't this dude from a small island in the Caspian Sea. Latvia. Yeah, Caspian. And there are no islands in the Caspian city. Yeah. But he takes the rib. They asked him, you know, where are you from?

It's my island in the Caspian Sea. You know, they thought they thought that he really was that. Yeah. I see, I love that. No, me too. That's awesome. I love that too. And there's another part of this guy said,

He also, when he got to roll a taxi, they had to negotiate his contract. They negotiated his contract with his blogger who was Bob Zimoda. Yes. No, it was Bob Zimuda, but it wasn't, it was Andy Kaufman as Bob Zimudah and they didn't know that. That's correct. Like, Bob Zimud is a real guy. Yeah. He worked with Andy Kaufman.

It was like his coat, whatever. Still does Tony Clifton stuff. Yeah, and they both played Tony Clifton. But according to this dude, Andy negotiated. his own contract with the network as Bob Zamuda. Part of it was Bob Zamuda had to have his own parking spot in addition to Andy Kaufman. So Andy had both parking spots or whatever.

And part of it was that Tony Clifton had to have a role in taxi for one episode. And Andy showed up that day as Tony Clifton with actual horrors. It's like, I mean, dude. How could you not love that? I'm not saying I don't. I never once said I didn't. I was like, how could anybody?

Oh, I mean, I could see how people that worked on the show didn't like it. Like, I could see him. But they were none of the wiser. No, no, no. I'm saying when Tony Clifton showed up with horrors, like, they became wise then that some bullshit was going on. That's great. That was the most exciting thing that happened to them that year. I hear you, but they still had to go to work.

Buddy, again, you're not having to convince me. Me, that hits so hard. I'm just saying I could see why someone wouldn't like it. Okay, but we've actually had this part of this conversation before. About Jim Carrey? Right. So by the same token, Jim Carrey, who I idolize, I fucking adore Jim Carrey. But obviously that documentary came out Jim and Andy, and it's all about Jim Carrey playing

Andy Coffman, and Andy Coffin played himself because he took Jim Carrey's corporeal form over as a spirit from him or whatever the fuck. But anyway, according to him, when Jim Carrey was on that, a set of man on the moon. He did a lot of those Andy Kaufman type things. And it very much did not get. Very much did not get for a whole lot of people involved. And I've cited with them. Me too. Me too. Well, that what's the difference? Well, one day, number one, number two, and maybe I'm wrong, showing up with hookers is not the same as being an a-ho. I mean, that's my niece is right here. So I'm no, that's, no, that's. I mean, Tony Clifference is. I mean, Tony

the may be an A-Hole character. I've seen him be a little obnoxious. So maybe he made their lives miserable. But my guess is they thought a weirdo was there and that it was funny. Right. Yeah, that's probably true. And like, I'm wrong about that.

If he was being a dick, yeah, man, you can't. But, you know, I've heard Jerry Lawler talk about that too, about his experience working with Jim Carrey as Andy Kaufman. And he, and his whole thing was he was like,

it was just bizarre and I couldn't get it over to Jim Carrey that he's like, Jim Carrey was being a dick to me on the set because he was, stealing character he's like but i was like but me and andy were friends and you should be a dick to me when we're in front of letterman but if me and you were just getting coffee then andy would be nice to me right because we were buddies and and jim carries whole argument of like it wasn't me it was and my body and then but then people who actually knew andy coffee like jerry lawler when they say like no i knew him i was close friends with him in real life and he didn't act anything like that Right, right.

It's like, dude, what the, what do you do? It's a bit much. It's way too much. It's way too much. Like I used to, there was a part of me that was like, like, when I first found out about method acting, like, you know, Daniel Day Lewis very popularized the style. And shit, I used to hear, when I would hear stories like that, like about, even about Jim Carrey, I would be totally enamored. And I'd be like, hey, man, who gives a shit? Whatever you got to do to get there.

This is young me. This is a young fucking idiot. 17, you know. And then I grew up to be an adult, and I can't remember who it was that somebody was talking about. They're like, yeah, or you could just act. Lawrence Olivier. Lawrence Olivier. Because that's where I always fell on the scale of it, too.

Yeah, it's a famous story. Lawrence Olivier saying to Dustin Hoffman, who was like, they're making that movie that William Goldman wrote that I can't remember right now. But Dustin Hoffman was all method about it. He stayed up for three days to appear more crazy. Exactly. And Olivier said to him, he was like, my dear boy, have you tried acting? And that's pretty much how I always look at that. I don't know shit now and I didn't know shit then.

But from the very beginning, I always in my head was like, you're playing pretend, right? So like, just pretend. Like, why do you need to do that? Now, there have been some geniuses who do it that way. So who am I to fault them? If Hoffman does it that way but doesn't make,

you know, doesn't belittle a makeup artist. And that's where I stand on it. If somebody who hears this is like, yeah, Clifton was like grab ass and all the makeup girls and was calling, you know, then I'd be like, well, then that's shitty. Yeah, it's the same as

anything. Like, your rights end where someone else begins, like, you know, fucking oh my God, Doc Holliday, fucking Val Kilmer. Val Kimmer stayed up three days for that one scene, you know, when he was, when he'd supposedly been up for three days playing and put, as long as like, he just did that, went and did the scene, got drunk,

and then went back to bed and didn't hurt nobody else, fuck yeah, if that's, if you can play that better actually like that, go ahead. But yeah, when it starts affecting the livelihood of other people and their day at work, then, yeah, act, motherfucker. Like, quit doing that. That's ridiculous. Like Daniel Day Lewis making motherfuckers push him around in a wheelchair.

Get the fuck out of here. Like, you can do it at the house, but not here. Quit being an idiot. We probably had this exact conversation before. Yeah. I got a thing at 430 anyway. Yeah. We say buy on here, but then very much.

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