wellRED podcast - #198 - We Live On The Internet Now

Episode Date: December 9, 2020

This week the boys talk about the new normal, people that won't wear their fucking masks, and THE INTERNET SHOW WE ARE DOING ON SATURDAY DECEMBER 12 at 9pmEST THAT YOU CAN GET TICKETS FOR AT rushtix.c...om

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Starting point is 00:00:19 It's just like you can just, it makes it easier to lose count of, well, your count, the count every month, how much you're spending. A lot of people don't even know how much they spend on a per month basis. I'm not going to lie. I can be one of those people. Like, let me ask you right now. Skewers out, whatnot, sorry, well-read people. People across the ske universe, I should say. Do you even know how many subscriptions that you actively pay for every month or every year?
Starting point is 00:00:41 Do you even know? Do you know how much you spend on takeout or delivery? Getting a paid chauffeur for your chicken low mane? Because that's a thing that we do in this society. Do you know how much you spend on that? It's probably more than you think. But now there's an app designed to help you manage your money better. and it's called Rocket Money.
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Starting point is 00:03:11 What's up everybody at you boy the show. Corey Ryan Forster here. rush ticks.com. R-U-S-H-T-I-X.com. That is where you can see our internet show this Saturday, December 12th, which is a day after my birthday. So if you don't get tickets to this show for anything other than that, do it for me as a birthday present. All new material from me and the guys. It's going to be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Look, obviously we wish that we were just coming out there to your fair city. That would be our first choice, but we can't right now. We had a couple shows planned at the end of the month. We booked them a long time ago, and it was one of those things where we were just like, surely to God this world
Starting point is 00:03:50 will get their shit together before then. Boy, as usual, we were stupid. didn't happen. So right now this is the safest thing we can do. This is just the new norm for right now. Can't wait until it gets back. But until then, this is what we got to do and this is what we want to do to keep you guys
Starting point is 00:04:07 entertained. So on your material, go to rushticks.com, grab your tickets. It's going to be a lot of fun. You know, look, here's the deal. It's possible we might end up having to do several more of these. Hope not. Hope we get back out there. But if so, thank you in advance for supporting us, supporting this endeavor.
Starting point is 00:04:25 supporting all artists during this time who are doing their best to keep you entertain. We love you. Enjoy this podcast. Oh, just listen. Little tiny disclaimer. Speaking of the new normal and getting used to things, Zoom, recording on Zoom remotely, which is what we've had to do since we can't be together and tour and record
Starting point is 00:04:45 the podcast like we're used to. It came with some getting used to and some an adjustment period. And I think we adjusted great and, you know, figure everything out. This week for some reason, I have no idea why, every single person had a delay. Usually it's just like one person. Just like whatever, but everybody had one. I've gone in, fixed as much as I can. It's a great episode.
Starting point is 00:05:06 It's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, I think that you'll be like, are they fucking off today or something? What's the deal? So it's just Zoom updated this week. Maybe that's it. I don't know, but just bear with us. We love you so much. Enjoy the episode.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Tell your friends. Go listen to all our other podcasts through the screen door with Corey Ryan Forster, Even skews with Trey Crowder and Smart Mark Aegee, and of course, Into the Abisket with Drew Morgan and DJ DJ Lewis. Thank you for everything. Wellredcomedy.com. Skew, bye. Here's the podcast. Love you, bye.
Starting point is 00:05:35 They're the liberal rednecks. They like cornbread, but sex. They care way too much, but don't give a fun. They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset, but they got three big old dicks that you can suck. Well, here we are. Here we are. One week removed.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Well, actually, when this, when people listen to it, but a few scant days removed from well-read holiday at home, the online Zoom show, comedy show for you and yarn on your screens and in your heart. Saturday, December 12th, 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern. How's it going, fellas? As far as that, like, you excited, are you ready? You got some good shit for the people? obviously no spoilers don't give it away but you know how you how you're feeling about it i'm feeling
Starting point is 00:06:30 good i've definitely got some good shit i'm basically having to uh mine's not uh it's my problem right now is uh what shit it is i'm gonna say and man this whole like like online shows is the problem no no i mean what i mean is like i don't i'm not i'm not uh searching for things that i want to say i'm searching for the order in which to put them. Yeah. How much? How, well, because it's like, okay, this is Christmas, so I kind of want to do something Christmas themed. And I, but also, I mean, hell, there's a lot to talk about this year that has not a goddamn thing to do with Christmas. And these online shows, man, guys, as we've been
Starting point is 00:07:06 talking, they're great, but they're, you approach them so much differently because I would never normally be thinking about doing a show and being like, yeah, I'm going to, and do all brand new material that's coming out of my mouth for the first ever time, you know, like, I'm would have like they would have been like dropped in to other shows and stuff like this but with with a show like this it's like well i am that's what i'm doing i'm doing completely brand new material and i haven't really had a way to practice it except for in my head and in the mirror but i've kind of been enjoying that process so yeah i got a lot of shit that i want to say uh it's just getting it all down to my my opening 20 and the opening 20 is important i uh i know you meant opening of
Starting point is 00:07:48 the show, but it sounded like you were referencing your own set. Like, if I could figure out the first 20 minutes, the rest of the two would be smooth. Okay, okay. For me, I just figure y'all got it. No, I don't, man, I've got a lot of great premises. Like, you guys, these are just real good ideas I've come up with. And one really, really, really, I'm really happy about it, hilarious bit. Like, I think I can figure out a way to do it in the future.
Starting point is 00:08:18 future because I'm going to reference, you know, where we're at in the world to get started. But the rest of the joke, God damn. And I don't want to get too high on it because if it bombs, it'll break my heart. And then the rest of them, like I said, good ideas, you know, good ideas. We'll see. Yeah, no, it'll hit. No, listen, it's going to be a great show. That's not my point.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Oh, it'll definitely hit. I'm a great promo. I don't know. I don't know about it. my point my whole I'm gonna get hammered and ran about the abyss it's gonna be funny I just feel like it might be funny to watch a man
Starting point is 00:08:54 flounder for 25 minutes like I'm funny mad so it's fine because I'm gonna get mad if it don't work here's my whole point here's my whole point with what I meant is that like I genuinely don't know where the country's at right now in terms of like what they want to hear and what they want to talk about
Starting point is 00:09:08 and the only way to ever know that is like you know some bullshit would happen like dude how many times were we on tour and a goddamn mass shooting would happen every show, right? So you don't... It sounds like it. You never know what the temperature of the room,
Starting point is 00:09:22 but that's how you find the temperature of the room like this week. Like, okay, we'll go out there and we'll kind of tread our feet in it. And we'll see what's up. We'll see if people are wanting commentary on what's going on, or do they want escapism? You can usually, like, within the first five to six minutes of any set, go, all right, I know what, where I should pivot, where I should go. But with a thing like this, when you're not able to go out,
Starting point is 00:09:43 I mean, what am I to do? Go fucking Ace Hardware and just be like, Hey, y'all come here. See, how does this strike you? You know, so, like, I feel like it's both a, it's like a blessing and a curse because, like, it's like, well, I'm going to do my shit regardless. It doesn't matter, you know. And then, but it is also like, again, we're just having to get used to this whole, this brand,
Starting point is 00:10:02 this new normal of like human interaction in the thing that we do is the most important part of what we do. And we're removing it for just a little bit. That's, that's, yeah, that's interesting because I'm struggling with a similar thing. My angle on it though is more, and I even, I think I'm going to do a bit about this, is I'm online all the time, that that's all I am. I'm just at my house. But I did go home, so that was a little different, just for a month.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So in the last nine months, I spent a month in Morgan County, and the rest of it's been on the internet and hiding in my house. I don't know what to trust, but I realize that's half of America right now. And then the other half is having to go out. out because see I do that podcast with DJ I'm getting reports from the dollar general right it ain't good if y'all don't know it ain't good the reports from dollar general coming in it's not good news no yeah it's funny I hadn't really thought about it the way you just said it like not in those terms like you said I'm either on the internet or I'm like just here at the house like with my family or
Starting point is 00:11:11 whatever and that's pretty much the extent of my experience and that's definitely reflected in what I have planned to talk about it now. I hadn't even thought about it that way, but it's pretty much all like either commentary on internet related things, like things I've seen people do on the internet, and hopefully other people have seen people do on the other internet, and then also stuff about Katie and for the boys or whatever and that type of thing, and the holidays and whatnot,
Starting point is 00:11:37 but it's very much reflective of my experience. Well, I'm trying to channel the month I spend at home, observing my in-laws and my parents live as if a pandemic may as well have been a goddamn television show on the oxygen network ain't seen it ain't heard about it don't give a fuck that's a that's a tremendous channel to using the example for the record I don't know how many times how many different ones you workshop but that one's good let's take keep that one that was sincerely off the dome no I'm having a good day I wrote the bit I love this morning I knew that it was off the dome and that's why I did the dickhead thing of like you're clearly doing a bit because
Starting point is 00:12:17 that was funny. Morgan County, what's the like actual? Yeah, right, okay. Because I'm just like, because like my last part. Yeah, but you, I know, but you were saying your parents like. That's not entirely true. My parents, here's how, I talked to my mom about this and we had a very sincere, I think, conversation yesterday because Andy and I.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I got a ticket, like a flight, to go home for Christmas a while ago. And yesterday, we had to have the talk where I was like, look, that's probably not going to happen. I had hope in my eyes and in my heart when I did that. And she understood, I don't know how understanding Andy's parents will be. Andy has not broached that subject with him yet. Anyway, all that is to say, to be fair to my parents, my parents have a pretty sober outlook about this, know that they're older.
Starting point is 00:13:12 and I think basically they just didn't think it was going to get that bad there. And now that it has, and to be fair, to their credit, it took a long time. You know, as cases spiked in Knoxville and Nashville, it still wouldn't do. They still hadn't known anybody that got it because they do roll in a small circle. Even when the world was open backed up, my dad wasn't going to Knoxville. Didn't give a fuck about Knoxville. Might have been on the oxygen channel. So he was keeping that circle small anyway, but now it's gotten pretty bad in Morgan County and Scott County, which is one county north where Andy grew up, is the worst in the state.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Clay County, my home county. I haven't seen the very latest numbers, but I've seen different batches of numbers over the past few months. And consistently, Clay County, my home county is top five. Top five worst counties in the state of Tennessee numerically. But my maim, I literally don't leave the house. And Uncle Tim, like, wears fucking gloves and masks and mask and take. sanitizers with him everywhere and people can't stand that people get mad at him for it but anyway i just they don't the people in my fan i put out put that video of my mama and sister talking shit in the
Starting point is 00:14:25 dollar store parking lot out on the internet recently but i'm like by the way if you hadn't see my actual family member go go to tray's twitter right now it's like pause pause this podcast right now go watch it and then come back so this all makes sense it's a fucking i think drew i saw you comment on on it's the funniest thing trace put out in years It's so fucking Probably ever Not that page Was looking for notes
Starting point is 00:14:50 But if she had flipped it around To show her face Even once or twice It would be the most popular video On the internet right now For sure For sure But my point is
Starting point is 00:15:01 All of my actual people Are not They're taking it Have always been taking it Very seriously And they're stuck in these Cesspools where no one else is But they're like outliers
Starting point is 00:15:10 But then my in-laws though Down in Wang County Tennessee, which was one of the earlier rural counties to get hammered by it because there's a big prison there. I said to say, I bet I know why. And that's what happened. And it put them on the radar, but then, of course, it got out of the prison. I mean, Wayne County has been like ravaged by it.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And to hear Katie talk about it, it seems to me like, you know, they, not all of them or anything, obviously, but generally speaking, there's been a bit of a tune change in Wayne County because they've had like, you know, prominent pillar of the community type people get it and die. Multiple. It wasn't just the poor. No, I know, I know, but for real, though. I know. No, that's real. And so it sounds like that, and big shit, like, where one of my, one of her extended, one of my extended in-laws works for like a utility company there.
Starting point is 00:16:14 and it just went all through. It basically shut them down completely. COVID did because there was an outbreak at the utility. So like they had this near crisis where the utility company was basically non-functional because of COVID. Stuff like that. And so the way Katie talks about it makes it sound like, you know, all of a sudden, weirdly. Right. In Wayne County, it's like a little bit of a different attitude, but also it's like too fucking late now.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And plenty of them still aren't that way. I don't want people to misunderstand me. There's still plenty of people there. They're like, fuck this shit. But there's people, there's plenty of people that like genuinely, because I have a buddy unnamed. I'm going to say, is that because like, I don't want to get before this, but like, he works at a place and they had a dude that worked there.
Starting point is 00:16:57 He was one of the bosses and he fucking, he died from coronavirus. And all them had been not taking it serious at all. So like when he died, it was like, yeah, no shit. And so like my buddy thought, well, when he died, like, okay, surely now the other boss is going to be like have seen the light but dude he just like doubled down and was like no you know we'll call him mike mike would want us to keep coming in and keep going to work he did he he was still coming in every day it's like right where did get him uh and and and so i think mike probably did want that right for sure i'm glad i tend to agree actually they say i they say right but a lot of them
Starting point is 00:17:36 are i don't know these people you're talking about but i think a lot of them really it's like you know, Mike probably would like, yeah, I mean, I had to get it. Hell, I hope they all do get it. Like, if I got to get it, if I got to get it, they ought to get it too. If I come to work and I still got it, then they ought to come to work till they fucking get. That's how I think about things. Sure. Rest in peace, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:54 These type of me, I don't know this. It's that whole like, your rights, my rights. Sure, but it's that whole your rights, my rights thing. I have to say about country folk in general, many of them will die for their beliefs, even if it is as dumb a belief as I don't want to wear a mask. But when you kill other people with it, that's the problem. Please let me say this, though, about these two specific dudes,
Starting point is 00:18:20 the one who died and the one who's like, all hell, whatever. The difference between them, yes, they're from here, but they're also, like, they were the two heads of this company, and they're very much the company man type dude. Like, these dudes have stock in this kind. Like, they're not being just stubborn just to be stubborn. It's a money. Like, they, they like, they like, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Didn't he get it at a Republican donor super spreader event? He sure did. And, uh, dude, I'm glad he's fucking dead. Like, make no, but I'm just saying like, like a lot of times, like, so around here, I genuinely do believe there's some people that if, if somebody in their family got it, it would change the way that they think about things. Now, but let me preface this by saying, I'm not comparing what I'm about to say to getting the coronavirus. But around here, I pretty much.
Starting point is 00:19:10 much, for the most part, unless they're like in my circle of friends of progressive friends, for the most part, the only people in our town who were not only fine with gay people, but like are very, you know, heavy on gay rights and stuff like that, are people whose children came out of the closet. You know what I'm saying? Of course. It happened to them and then all the sudden, oh, no, it's close. I accept it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I don't understand why I was this way before. Now, that's great that those people have that wake up moment. That's truly great. But it literally takes that. I mean, I always count. It literally takes that. I always, I know. I mean, I always have explained my family's circumstances that way.
Starting point is 00:19:51 It happened before I was really around. Like it happened before I was even born. But I mean, you know, that's what happened with my, I don't, I don't know that because I wasn't there. Right. But I'm saying, you can assume. Like all my family, they seem more, you know, that's what I've always chalked it up to. I come from this like pretty progressive small family. It's all that had a lot to do with the fact that Uncle Tim is gay and they all knew it.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And like, and like they didn't want to ostracize him. They, you know, came around. You tell me, you asked me, son, it's the other way around. Now, all that progressiveness made him quit. And it might have been. Now, as I was saying, like, you know, so you'd think, like if some of the, if people that had that attitude saw somebody in their family died of coronavirus, it would be the same thing. Like, oh, it's happened to me personally.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So I'm different. But you do also have the reverse where there's, I know. know another family in town whose son came out gay. And now these people have way more opinions on that you shouldn't be gay than they ever had before. Like they didn't say a goddamn word until now. I guess it's like they, it's sort of the thing with us. Like I feel like as a Southerner, I have to scream how progressive I am just because
Starting point is 00:20:59 I know other people think the opposite. Like they've got a, I guess they're like, uh, uh, what's the, they got a, they got a chip on it. It ain't our fault, damn it. Right. Right. Right. Just so y'all know, we ain't cool with this.
Starting point is 00:21:10 yeah, like they're trying to make up for it or cover their bases. But like, I don't know, man, like that, this, there's, I can't get a grass on fucking Chikamaga or the South right now, especially because Georgia flipped blue. You know what I mean? Like some wild shits going on in the state. And there's some people who I never would have thought, uh, would be like, hey, listen, look, I'm not, I'm not a liberal or whatever, but like, wearing a mask and being safe shouldn't be part of some politics.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And I'm like, yes, thank you. That's exactly 100% correct. And then I got some people who like, I've thought we're smart until now who were just like, let's have a cough party. What do you say? You know, like it don't make no goddamn sense. I can't figure it out. So I don't know, man. We're in a way.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Well, I mean, that thing you said about everybody you know that seems to be okay with gay people are progressive about gay rights around there seems to have a gay relative. I feel like that's like indicative of how the main thing. Indecutive. In my opinion. I was laughing to that. And I was also laughing at how it's fair because we're talking about people's reaction, but we're straight up talking about disease and people being gay. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I prefaced it. I preface it. I said these are not the same thing. And I'm saying I think you're right because you were saying now that if any of these people you would think, know someone who gets COVID and dies or suffers very seriously from it, that would also change. viewpoint because that's what happened when their son came out of the closet or whatever. And I was just going to say, like, taking it even further, I feel like that's what's
Starting point is 00:22:46 behind a lot of this shit. Me and Katie talks about it all the time with like Wayne County. There's, it's nothing. I've told the story on the podcast before by how my mother-in-law told me that there were not any gay people in Wayne County and never have been because you just couldn't be gay there or whatever. And there's no black people either, no, just straight white redneck people only, completely homogenous in that entire community.
Starting point is 00:23:09 at least for the most part. And like, that, I think that is directly related to the way they feel about all kinds of shit. Right. Mexicans, immigration, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:21 what, what, you know, people in the cities. It, it's all the same thing, but you can't have your son, like,
Starting point is 00:23:26 come out as a Mexican immigrant. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. If they were forced, if they were forced, if they were forced to have some sort of level of familiarity with all of these
Starting point is 00:23:38 right. It's why they'll never understand. never understand. To do it with homosexuality because of their son or daughter, then maybe they would feel differently about the rest of it too. Right. But that other stuff kind of just can't happen. It's just like it's why a lot of them will never understand the Black Lives Matter
Starting point is 00:23:52 movement, period. They never will because that they genuinely, now I've said before and I mean it, there for a while, like if you got somebody that, if there's somebody around here and they really don't watch the news fucking ever, I get them being kind of ignorant before, before Twitter, before this 24-hour media, before people had cell phones and they were literally like,
Starting point is 00:24:11 anytime a cop did it, somebody had a fucking, you know, video of it. Because like, where I live, that has never happened because there's no black people so it couldn't have. Right. But in their mind, they're like, that's same thing with COVID.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I don't know nobody that's happened to. Therefore, that ain't happened to them. But just like COVID's like, all right, but look at the news. These families crying. Do you think they're fucking Sandy Hook actors? You know what I'm saying? But like, they will never,
Starting point is 00:24:35 they'll never put themselves there. to try to understand black lives and everything because they're, I don't get it. We, no black guys ever been shot here. It's like, first off, that ain't true.
Starting point is 00:24:45 But like, yeah, I mean, by the country, in Chickamauga proper, I've never, we've never had an unarmed black guy to my knowledge get shot. Maybe they drug him to Kutusa County afterwards.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I fucking don't know. I'm just saying it's never happened. I remember that time. I'm not going to say the guy's name, but we used to, uh, have these Facebook arguments all the time with a guy that Corey grew up with and went to school with,
Starting point is 00:25:06 who was super, super conservative, but, like, also knew some big words. I'm saying he didn't seem like a complete dumbass, but he said a lot of stuff that I associate with dumbasses. It's just put it that way. That's called being a bad person I've learned. He was coming on to Corey's post always with some shit like that, and then I would get drawn into it or Drew Wood to or whatever. It was just a thing.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Well, I'd send you all that shit and I'd bait you. Because y'all are smarter than me, and I couldn't say big words back to him. So I'd be like, y'all get his ass. And I remember one time. I think it was Ferguson. It was around Ferguson time, right? Yeah. And he was just on his whole tirade about how like,
Starting point is 00:25:45 I don't care what anybody says, racism is not a problem in this country anymore and hasn't been for a long time. He's like, he's like, I'm however many years, I'm 30 years old or whatever it was at the time. He's like, I've literally never once in my entire life even witnessed an overt display of racism. And I live in the deep south. And I was just like, yeah, but you live in fucking Ronald.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Reagan's dream world version of the deep south. Like you don't ever see anything but people exactly like you. I was like, I'm a comedian. I travel around some. And here's two stories of overt racism from the past month. Yeah. That I've dealt with that I witnessed and they were both true, you know, but like he totally fully, well, not just he believed that.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That was true. What he said. It was true. He was totally oblivious. He was totally oblivious to like, why. Why that was the case. and me saying it had no effect. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah, I mean, bubbles are real. And now we're all on both sides, yeah. A weird online one. And I don't, yeah, yeah, I tweeted a thing earlier and people got mad about it. If I bring it up here, people get mad. But someone tweeted the thing that there's a lot of people who know less about how Nancy Pelosi
Starting point is 00:26:59 fucked up this, what's the word I'm looking for? Not debate. Campaign. The package, the relief package. Stimulus package. Yeah, but when you're, negotiation, that's the word I'm looking for. Negotiation, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:19 A lot of people know less. A lot of people know less about, whether you think she fucked it up or not, a lot of people know less about that investigation. Then they do the fact that Rudy Giuliani farted twice into a microphone. Right, true. And the end of the tweet was something like,
Starting point is 00:27:35 so do you now? I believe in liberal bubbles too. The fact that you get into your little echo chamber, that's got to be worse. I just remember something about my parents, though, that is also indicative of the type of people we're talking about. The coach at the neighboring school died, unfortunately. You all cry.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Basically to tell me to start taking my aspirin, my baby. Yeah, you know, so maybe our kids. or maybe our good players would stop fucking moving down there in the eighth grade. Oh, your mom and dad separated,
Starting point is 00:28:11 but not really. Anyway, um, he passed, unfortunately, and mom called me to tell me to take baby aspirin because clots are a big problem.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And she told me she'd been worried because that's what happened to this gentleman, unfortunately, and I have had clots. She called me, she had to call me back because she had missed my call because her and dad were at the Mexican restaurant.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Right. she told me that they went because they knew that they weren't going to be able to for the next month or so because it got bad again. Now, mind you, no one's going to shut down that Mexican restaurant. No, of course not. Mom and dad just are like not going to go, which is the right thing to do. For sure. So they wanted to go one last time. I feel that.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Dude, runny white, baby. Ronnie white, that cheese. How to go get that Ronnie White. That's like even in, I don't know what I'm trying to say here. I couldn't think of the fucking word negotiation. I'm going to go, so I don't know why I could articulate this. But even in changing their minds or changing their attitudes, the habits and the life that they lead, it is boring in a small town,
Starting point is 00:29:23 but it is very comfortable. For sure. People don't want to be uncomfortable. That's related to racism, COVID, any of these conversations. Your kid coming out is gay. the good thing about a small town, even though it's boring and no concerts ever come to town, is you generally speaking, know what's happening the next 10 fucking year.
Starting point is 00:29:45 For sure. Yeah. Something occurred to me, I don't think we've addressed this on here. We probably don't have to. I mean, our fans to listen to this and had this question would know this without us even saying it. But for the record,
Starting point is 00:30:00 this whole conversation we just had, how fucked up would it be? If we had this whole conversation in mid-show, we were like, by the way, keep in mind, we'll be in Nashville next week. Everybody come out and,
Starting point is 00:30:10 you know, like, drive it. I'm saying, like, this is, just so people know they're listening, like, it absolutely killed us to cancel these shows in particular. These shows may more to us than any other weekend of shows.
Starting point is 00:30:22 We have their fucking homecoming shows. Our favorite club in the country right for Christmas. We love them. And it killed us to, uh, to cancel them. But literally, just you can't be on the side of the conversation we just had, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:30:38 No. Especially you know how many of our fans drive in from small towns, from Clay County, Morgan County, and all the ones like it around Nashville and whatnot. Like, you just, you can't do both. It's just an untenable circumstance in my opinion. And for everybody that, the thing to do. For everybody that doesn't understand, because I assume it's a lot of people, because why would you know, you don't understand how like booking works for like
Starting point is 00:31:03 comedy purposes. We booked the show. Well, hell, actually, we booked it. We booked that show a year in advance because we just, we have a residency there. We just do that show. So like to us, it was, okay, well, we've got that show. It's not like during the middle, what I'm trying to say is it's not like during the middle of a pandemic, we fucking booked the show at Zanis. We had to show on the books. And then our whole, like, we, we hoped against hope for so long. We're like, okay, maybe it'll just get to the point where it slowed down enough to where like, we can just do a socially distance one. then just as the Ravens fly, the fucking day that it was supposed to be announced,
Starting point is 00:31:40 also announced the same day, like probably mere minutes apart was Tennessee has record number, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it looked like to a lot of people, that happened. And then we were like, hey, by the way, come see us at Zanis. But it was just eventually we just had to rip it off like a bandad. And yeah, it fucking sucked, man. Like, I'm not ashamed to admit. I cried a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Like that show means a lot to me. And not only that, like, you know, not to be sappy, I fucking miss you guys, like a lot. Like, we talk every week, so that's, you know, that's fine. But, like, genuinely, I really, really miss hanging out and drinking beer and, like, talking shop and all that shit. And so, yeah, for anybody out there just to let you know, that was extremely painful for us. But like you said, Trey, my God, can you imagine if we're sitting here on this fucking soapbox? And then everybody's fucking...
Starting point is 00:32:29 Right. It would take some pretty extreme mental gymnastics on our part to, to justify. And we tried to do it for a while. Yeah. We were trying to figure it out. Trust me. Well, you know, you see things like, I guess we'll did those shows where it was different circumstances.
Starting point is 00:32:48 He was outside. You only can sit with people you came with and all that. But it's like you can see a way or you try to see a way in which the world can operate. Yeah. under the fucking cloud of this, partially because it has to at some point, which unfortunately for comedy,
Starting point is 00:33:11 we're not required. But, you know, there are people out there right now. I mean, DJ never even took a fucking day off. You know what I mean? Like, Dollar General just didn't shut down.
Starting point is 00:33:21 So you try to, like, do all the mental gymnastics of, well, how can we get around it or how can we be safe? But, unfortunately, I guess it's the extremism that we live in. And it's the, you know like we we if you're just if you're on Twitter and you know in this point in the world with
Starting point is 00:33:37 the pandemic as you said everybody's a lot more your screen time on your phone that notifies you every week it keeps going up you know we we're living on the internet we're trying not to go out and even those people that are like fuck that places ain't open for them to do shit we've it feels like we live in a more extreme world than we do because as everybody knows like on when you start talking to somebody that you think you and them disagree you about five minutes in you're like Wow, word, me too. You know, like us talking to somebody about guns. It happens.
Starting point is 00:34:05 But like, with this I found there's a lot of those people on both sides, but really, really on the right that are like, okay, we'll use what you were just saying, for example, Isbel did shows and they were outside and everybody had their own pod. And that's great. There's little, like, nobody's asking you to fucking literally wear a hazmat suit all the time. It's like, hey, let's do everything we can within reason. But some people don't want to do that. They literally look at everything completely binary. They're like, nope, we're either America or we ain't America. It's either fucking full tilt or I don't want to fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:34:37 You know, and I'd rather be dead than have to have. I don't want to fucking wear a mask while I'm in the lobby of a fucking bar. I want everybody to be packed. It's like they can't. It's like, okay, but if we just, if we just don't do the unnecessary things, nobody's telling you you can't go to fucking food line. You got to go to food line. We're just saying, don't crowd somebody at the fucking ice cream out.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like, nope, no, no, no, no. It has to be exactly the same, and nobody's willing to change even a little bit so that one day we can go back to that. And it's just fucking frustrating. But my mom's a good example, though, of like, I know they're not all like. My mom's a Republican, and she's like, I'm going to wear my mask. I'm a yada, yada, yada. It's like, just do the best you fucking can. That's really all anybody's asking.
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Starting point is 00:41:15 to me and my family than literally anything that's happened in so long. Yeah, it does hit. There's, okay, so I've got, I've got something that I'm kind of dying to talk about, but I don't know if I should. I can relate it to I can relate it to something that comes up every now and then, but it also can be a tiresome subject. And it's not the reason I want to talk about it. I can relate it to cancel culture and that type of thing if I want to make it more relevant. But really, I just want to talk about my cake show. That's what I want to talk about. The most recent season of my cake show, I hope that this ends up being something that hits because it does get into some more societal
Starting point is 00:41:57 implications at the end of it. Let me give you all some, uh, You just hear that? What? That was Thompson turning the fucking podcast off. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah, he's been the goddamn trade of fucking cakes again. But again, it gets bigger than cakes by the end of it, boys.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And I just want to talk about it as a viewer. Always does. Try to give you all the overview without any like explicit spoilers, although it's going to be obvious if anybody's watching it. So spoilers ahead for the later. season of the Great British Bake Off. Here's what happened was. They had, every week
Starting point is 00:42:36 they have three challenges, okay, and somebody goes home at the end of it. They've said explicitly multiple times that it's just that one week. It's not cumulative. It's not how you've done over the course of show up until that week. It's just that one week. There's a contest.
Starting point is 00:42:50 There was a contestant on this. Yeah, it's come up before, right? It's not the first time of something like this has happened, but there's this contestant on this latest edition. She was a, she's a person. of color, an immigrant from an African country now living in England
Starting point is 00:43:06 and all season long she was a total ringer, right? Her and this one other guy, ringers, like clearly a tear above the rest of them, right? She gets down to the final four. The final, the very final, is three of them, right?
Starting point is 00:43:22 So this is the semifinals, the final four. It's her, the other ringer, a guy who's pretty goddamn good, and then this girl who's like kind of a mess. a literal, she's always making a mess and always fucking up and barely scraping by, it seems like. In that episode, the ringer lady had a terrible week by her own admission. She fucked up the first two challenges, got to the showstopper, you could still save yourself with the showstopper. She said on camera to them that she was scrapping her idea entirely for her showstopper, and she was just going to wing it.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Now, listen, y'all, somebody's watched every, every improv and baking. of this show that every season of the show that's available in America, I've seen them all. I ain't never seen no shit. Like at this moment, I'm sitting on my couch. Literally, I'm sitting on my couch screaming, what? Why? Why would you do that? Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:44:15 That's not going to work. You can't do that. Like you said, yo, baking's a science, right? Yeah, for sure. You can't improv. Winging it in this hot. But she says, like, I'm throwing it all out. I'm just going to wing this.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And guess what? It didn't work. Really? It fucked it up. it was a disaster. She got sent home. People were furious, furious to the point that the host,
Starting point is 00:44:38 Paul Hollywood and the producers and the contestants who've been on the show all had to like issue statements asking people to stop harassing the other girl, the one who made it through because the ringer failed and got sent home, the one who made it through,
Starting point is 00:44:52 who's a white girl, by the white English girl, people were harassing her on the internet, like just talking shit, talking about I sorry. she didn't deserve to be there. And then of course, and here's where it gets into
Starting point is 00:45:02 the larger societal thing. I've read articles about this, but it was in the blogosphere lately. People started saying that it was, you know, that it was racially motivated. She fucked up, right?
Starting point is 00:45:14 It's not a very diverse show overall. Right. Yeah, and I think by her own admission, she fucked up. And it just, that's all that happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:23 That's all that happened. But it had to turn into this whole, like, ulterior motive unfairness thing that people were pissed off about and this like you know small online outrage but it's like me and drew were talking this weekend separately like how many people even were like actually outraged about it i don't know probably not that many but enough that the actual people on the show the producers and hosts and stuff like publicly addressed the controversy or whatever but i guess i'm just saying like i have a theory on that
Starting point is 00:45:58 I don't, it does, not everything has to be some bigger thing. Like, it, there's not a conspiracy or some underlying ulterior motive to everything. Sometimes what appears to happen is just what happened. And like, what I think, fucked up and got sent home. That's how that's show works. That's all that happened. And it's just, what I think was shit like that is that, I absolutely believe that at first, like, there was some, dude, there's, of course some people who make that shit.
Starting point is 00:46:28 about everything. Like there's your fucking Jezebel bloggers, no offense to anybody that listens to us that writes for Jezebel. That's just the most cliche you know,
Starting point is 00:46:36 Brooklyn website I can think of that like overwoke or like overreaching for shit. I believe that at least a couple of people absolutely felt that way. But what I think is the reason that, because dude,
Starting point is 00:46:50 I run in liberal circles and I always see this crazy shit that liberals supposedly are mad about yet when I ask every liberal I know. They're like, no. No. I think that like the conservatives, and for the record, not saying that we can't be guilty of like just posting all the Marjorie Green Taylor shit and being like, this is all of them. But like them motherfuckers, they see something like that. And the higher ups, they look at that and they go, this is a great opportunity for us to
Starting point is 00:47:19 de-legitimize the fucking actual racism in this country. If we can, if the Richard Spencer see that, they put that shit on parlor, They can always have that in their back pocket to when some real racist shit happens, they can go, y'all make everything about race. And they got the fucking proof positive right there. But if you actually go to that fucking article, it's got like, you know, three comments on it or some shit like that. Nobody really cared.
Starting point is 00:47:42 They just grabbed the headline and it's great for bait. It's great for ammo. That's what I, that's, I think that those people end up making those articles more popular than actual people who feel that way because there's only a hundred of them. That's me. no i i agree with you yeah i think the only thing i'll add to that and you're completely right especially about what that does
Starting point is 00:48:06 you know look we should all be above boy who cried wolf scenarios when it comes to racism and oppression if if if the media makes a big deal out of a million instances of fake racism we should still freak the fuck out when the real shit happens Sure. But, but you're right. It's human nature. That's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:48:29 There are 330 million Twitter users. You have to assume most of those skew a little bit, if not super to the left. If nothing else, because of Parlor, now most, I mean, it might be 60%. It might be 70. I don't know. But if you think about the age breakdowns, because Parlor has popped up, so a lot of far-right people have left Twitter, you have to assume that that's mostly liberal people. So if you say, we'll just throw a number out, that 190 million of those people are left leaning,
Starting point is 00:49:00 you know, you said it's going to be three comments. I think it's more than three comments. Sure. I think that it sounds like in this instance, Trey, there were a few people going after this girl. I think what happens in those scenarios is they didn't want that girl to go through because she wasn't as good as the ringer. And when your brain wants something, and this ain't my theory, this is something that I've read about in a book I've been reading recently, this is pretty well accepted in evolutionary psychology circles. When your brain wants something to be true, it will work overtime to make it thus.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Absolutely. We used to think that the logic part of the brain's job was to overcome our emotions, but it actually, evolved to support our emotions, to reinforce our emotions, to tell us that our emotions are right, to give us reasons to punch a guy we want to punch, not overcome the desire to punch a guy we want to punch. I'm bringing all that up to say,
Starting point is 00:50:11 they didn't want the ringer to go through, and the racism that has existed in Great Britain, especially when it comes to Indian people, is in the back of people's minds and in people's hearts. I don't think you're a bad person if you're worried that a talented Indian Baker got fucked over.
Starting point is 00:50:31 She wasn't Indian, she was African, but I mean, yeah. I could have raised that Indian, I'm sorry. No, yeah, African immigrant, but yeah, but people like, yes, they just, you're 100% right too. A lot of people watch the show just didn't feel like the white girl, you know, didn't, she didn't deserve to be in the final.
Starting point is 00:50:48 This other, the ringer deserved it more. Right. Even though she had a bad week, Still, it was this miscarriage of justice, and that got them all pissed off just as fans of the show, but then it spiraled out of control. There was another complaint about this season. They said that they had a Japanese week. Like, every week is themed. Hell yeah. And so they had Japanese week where it's all Japanese desserts you're supposed to make.
Starting point is 00:51:09 But it's a bunch of British amateur home bakers, right? And like, apparently, I didn't know. I'm not going to sit here and act like I knew. Yes. Right. And I'm not going to sit here. I didn't know when I was watching it. I'm a white American.
Starting point is 00:51:23 dude. I had no idea, but apparently some of the bakers were on there, it was, those are, that's a Chinese dessert. They did Chinese flavors, you know what I mean? Those are Chinese flavors, not Japanese or Thai, or Thai or Korean or whatever. I'm certainly not
Starting point is 00:51:39 saying cancel the show, but I can see how that made people mad. Yeah, but you can't, I don't know what, I don't know what the show is supposed to do about that happening is my point based on Oh, the biggest show. Yeah, they don't know when they choose. They choose their own recipes their own flavors.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I mean, the show could have just avoided that because they could have had the foresight to know something like that might happen, but I'm saying... We got to stand up at some point, God damn it. I don't... Fucking food, let her... Go with it. That's where I start losing shit. Yeah, we should definitely be making each other's food, but we ought to say whose food it is.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I agree with that. I agree with that. But if, like, in this instance, we're like, dude, that's clearly, like, it's not like... It's not like they were all, you know, well, this is actually... Chalnese. This is actually Chonais, but fuck the Japan. I'm not going to say it. You know what I mean? Like there was no malice. Yeah. It's certainly not worse. But it is
Starting point is 00:52:31 pretty bad, though, that what actually happened was, somewhere in their brain, it was all the same. Or whoever taught that to them. In that person's brain, it was all the same. So, honestly, it sounds like by the nature of the show they couldn't do this, they should have scrapped that episode.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, they would have to just start over and film a whole other one if they realized it was problematic. But I think Also, what I think, it's a competition. These people care about this shit a lot. And I bet you what also happened. And this includes a version of, oh, it's all the same. But like, they, I guarantee you most of them did something they felt they had some level of comfort with so it wouldn't suck.
Starting point is 00:53:11 You know what I mean? They were like, here's a thing I can do and pass off for Japanese week and it'll be good. Yeah. And I don't want to go home. I don't know about bacon with almond flour, but I am much more comfortable with racism. That's right in my fucking will. It tastes fucking excellent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I just, yeah, I don't, you know, because it also was like stuff like, like that the thing they made was like a traditional Japanese dessert, but again, the flavors in it weren't. There were something else. But like they do that on purpose all the time on that show and no one ever cares. It's a fusion cake.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Like traditional meat pies, like English meat pies, but they'll make it with like a Jamaican curry inside or whatever the fuck. Stuff like that happens all. the time and no one ever cares. I don't think anyone would have been, not many people would have been upset about that. If they had said the traditional Japanese is X, I've chosen to do Y because blah, blah, blah. I think it's just that that is reflective of the history of racism in Great Britain and how we, as white people and frankly black people, at least in America, just kind of do still think
Starting point is 00:54:18 all Asians are the same. I'm not saying therefore cancel the show or crucify these people. I just, that one makes way more sense to me than the other story. I could see that being fucking annoying at the very least. This kind of reminds, now we're really about to get into it. This kind of reminds me of how I feel in some ways about like Joe Rogan,
Starting point is 00:54:41 where however you feel about Joe Rogan in general, people will be like, you know, he platforms, these awful people with these awful thoughts. And he does. Yes, and he does platform those people. And if you have a problem of that, great.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I think your heart's in the right place, and that's cool. But it's strange to me that people have such a problem with Joe Rogan having Milo Napalopas or wherever the fuck his name was on. You know, like we don't want to give him a platform. But then the Democratic Party
Starting point is 00:55:12 will give literal war mongers a political platform. in a cabinet or you know they're now the fucking ambassador to whatever kind of it's like you know I'm talking about with scale I'm not saying that makes confusing I'm not saying it's okay that these bakers
Starting point is 00:55:30 confuse Chinese and Japanese cultures that's not okay but if that's where all your outrage lies and whatever the week is whatever week we're on this is who we're mad at but you don't at least couple that with recognizing that we literally bum brown people
Starting point is 00:55:46 we made the fucking island of Japan stopped believing in God because we wanted to see how atomic bombs worked. I think that's one of them things like Neil Brennan was talking about that one time when he was, you know, somebody asked him about like, you know, you're a comedian, you've tweeted some controversial shit. Like how do you deal with like public backlash? And he was like, well, for me, it's pretty simple. My method is if I say something and everybody's like, oh, fucking Neil shouldn't have said
Starting point is 00:56:09 that, you should apologize. He's like, I wait three days. And if everybody's still talking about it after three days, I'll fucking, I'll apologize. guys, but usually they aren't because it just fucking goes away. I feel like with some shit like this, if like with this Japanese food thing, maybe if the cake show just didn't give it no fucking lip service for a couple days,
Starting point is 00:56:29 it probably would have gone away. And then after a while, if it's still being talked about it, be like, okay, sorry, we should have made sure this was an authentic Japanese cake. But there's a lot of it that like,
Starting point is 00:56:39 you probably, like a lot of these people probably could ignore it. Now you shouldn't ignore like bigger things. Like, you know, if you've got a show with a fucking like, if you're on a television show, there's a rape culture, like, get out ahead of that shit.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You know, like, don't ignore that. Don't be flipping about that. Don't be obtuse. But like some of those things, if they just didn't comment, I think probably after a week everybody would be like, oh, let's say what the talk is this week. I agree as that would be applied to the first story. I think they should have apologized for the second story pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:57:11 But I don't think it's the end of the world. Maybe that's easy for me to say as a white guy. Sure. Well, okay. It's easy for you to say, as a white guy and also, uh, considering we're talking about a show about cake when it's, it'd be one thing. It'd be one thing if the lady, if there was a lady on there and she, like, they, they, they left this in. Like, they didn't edit out. She was sitting there putting
Starting point is 00:57:32 her flour in and she's like, you know what? I think this soy sauce is actually from Taiwan. Oh, well, Chinese, Japanese, dirty nays, look at these. Anyways, let's, you know, like, that'd be way different. Like, if they made like a whole fucking thing about it. But realistically, she just put crispy onions on some shit that wasn't supposed to have crispy onions, you know, or some fucking shit like that. Like, I don't know, like it ain't the same. A good time starts with a great wardrobe. Next stop, J.C.
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Starting point is 00:58:13 extra affordable. Check out the latest in store, and we're never short on options at jCP.com all dressed up everywhere to go jacepenny yeah well i mean i'm with you failers uh that's all the cake related controversy i had uh so thanks for humor me on it i appreciate it it's just one of the things we're like and again yes i'm you know i'm a white dude now i love that show it's the latest season i watch it i didn't pick up on not none of that yeah and then when the whole season's over i see uh you know articles that summarized all this outrage and controversy And I was like, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:58:51 And because it was all behind me, as I'm reading, I was like, this is all, that, no, no, that's all bullshit, you know. That's really interesting, though, because that means that either, as they were editing that week, no one knew. Yeah. Or the producers realized that and just decided not to say anything about it. And again, I can see a jabber. or Chinese person going,
Starting point is 00:59:22 Jesus. Like, this is, this is our culture. This is our shit, you know. Get it right. You know. But it's, like Corey said, like the, that whole fusion thing, like it's,
Starting point is 00:59:33 I'm not saying this was the entirety of what people were upset about, but like I said, it was like putting other cultures, flavors or ideas into a Japanese shell, like making a Japanese dish, but with all this other stuff in it. And like I said,
Starting point is 00:59:46 as somebody who's watched every episode of that show, they do that all the, time. And no one ever is bothered by it when it's mixing two other ones. You know what I mean? This world would suck if food was never appropriated. Oh my God. That that that's not appropriation. No, I know, but that we can talk about it. We can talk about appropriation. I want to clarify something here. I may have misunderstood you. I thought they were making Chinese desserts and calling them Japanese desserts. Are you now telling me they were making Japanese desserts, but putting some Chinese or traditionally Chinese spins or yes that that I told oh my god oh my God I thought I totally
Starting point is 01:00:25 misunderstood you I thought you were saying both I heard you say the thing or even I remember one of them wasn't even it wasn't even Chinese stuff it was like like one of them was like some kind of stained bun thing that they do in in Japan I guess and like one girl that was on there filled hers with American cheeseburger ingredients which would hit Japanese stained bum but right sound like it sound like a hit and I did it so few yeah I'm saying that that that that type of thing they do on that show all the time. So as far as why the producers didn't think, oh, this is kind of fucked up. We should back off of this. I totally get it because it didn't seem any different to me, but apparently it struck people differently. I literally thought it was like,
Starting point is 01:01:02 we're going to make Spanish desserts today and somebody came in there with a tiramisu and put a sombrero on. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, isn't that an Italian dessert? You're saying, no, they were making a fucking Spanish dessert, but it was. Tiram and Sue flavor. That analogy might be terrible. But, you know, I get what you're saying. Well, yeah, like, again, it was, it was even, it was even less egregious than what you thought, and you already were kind of on the fence about, like, I'm now saying it's not egregious at all, and I'm completely with you, Trey, and I'm sorry, I just argued with you kind of for eight minutes.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I totally fucking misunderstood what happened and no, that's stupid. I mean, to me, it's like if somebody, if we were watching a show and somebody was making biscuits and gravy and they just made the gravy a little bit different than we normally do and us being like god damn it i'd be fake mad yeah well yeah like i did a i did a uh uh a sizz for this show i was trying to pitch one of this place and i was eating biscuits and gravy like one of the things they were serving me biscuits and gravy and this dude like chopped up parsley to top the biscuit and gravy with for the record doesn't literally the whole thing about parsley is that it don't ever affect the taste at all but like like it's it's a great garnish for that
Starting point is 01:02:14 reason, but like, that pissed me off. But like, not enough to be like, but not enough to be like, sir, this is not how we do it. This is a fucking, this isn't a representation of my culture and blah, blah, blah. It is. Now, again, white man, completely different thing. But like, yeah, it's more like that. It's like, yeah, I wouldn't do that. But, you know, fucking whatever. That's just how you're making it. Right. Whereas, again, it would still be different. If somebody tried to say, that Putin was a southern dish. Right. Again, it would be different
Starting point is 01:02:49 because I don't have the attachment of fucking colonialism with my culture, but I would be like, wait a minute, no it ain't. What the fuck, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:57 Man, let me talk about it. I'm so sorry. I feel like, I feel really guilty because I feel like I just put us in the weeds for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:03:02 No, you're fine. And I also felt crazy. I was like, why don't y'all think this is something to apologize for? And I now realize
Starting point is 01:03:08 this because I was thinking of a completely a scenario than it happened. Which would have been different. By the way, let's talk about Putin for a second. because I've actually been well not I actually I had a conversation with a couple
Starting point is 01:03:19 Canadians a couple weeks ago on Twitter about Putin and this is a thing look maybe I'm just way off base but like when Canadians start getting like trying to tell me that I don't know shit about French fries gravy and cheese it really grinds my fucking gears like in a southern way like I know they do it different
Starting point is 01:03:44 but like it's really not that fucking wild of a goddamn concept you know what I'm saying like it's really not which I mean I guess I could say like biscuits and gravy and I think I need a little more context of my dad makes they were saying to fried tailors all the time I just said what was the argument they had what were they going after you for so which something something something had been like it wasn't even like I made a post about fucking puteen or something but like I was talking I was on a Twitter thread or something I noticed that there was a bunch of goddamn, you know, like Canadians on there. And I was like, oh, what's up, Canada?
Starting point is 01:04:17 You know, it was like on one of my posts. Like, how y'all doing? And then they were talking about something. And they, that somebody, God damn it. Somebody was like, you know, the show likes Poutin, you know, because like, why wouldn't I? And then everybody was, like, giving their opinion on how much I would love protein and, like, other really fat foods that I would probably like. On my thread, it was one of the same, like, how people talk to your grandma,
Starting point is 01:04:41 like, she ain't in a goddamn room. Like I'm sitting like I'm getting added on every single one of these. And so finally I'm- Much like my granny who never stopped eating sugar, it was both y'all's fault. But go ahead. Yeah, for sure. But no,
Starting point is 01:04:53 it's my fault. But like, anyways, I chimed in with like, yeah, no, ever heard of closing the goddamn? I was thinking it too.
Starting point is 01:05:04 I chimed in with like, hey, obviously I love French fries, gravies, and cheese. I ain't going to lie. But like, y'all are acting like
Starting point is 01:05:13 it's clearly. clearly one of my favorite foods and I'm just here to tell you like not really like I to me it's just too soggy for the most part and blah-blades it's good I'll eat it but like I'm not like oh shit let me get back to Canada so I can get some fucking you know gravy fries and buddy every single one of them Canadians probably rightfully so was just like not but as Canadians do they weren't like call me an asshole they were just like where'd you get it where'd you get it though and I was just like honestly I don't remember I had it several different places they're like okay well then you You don't know shit then. And I was like, fair, you're right. I don't know from which I speak. But they were just like, look, it's got to be proper. It's got to be this. It's got to be that.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And I was sitting there like, I know you're right. Like you're from Canada. This is y'all's thing. I'm sure that if I went to your Poutin place, it would be better than the Poutine I had. But like, just the sheer disrespect to go from, look at this fat motherfucker. I know he loves Poutine to you don't know shit about French fries, gravy and cheese. like these motherfuckers just invented the goddamn segue or something like that you know what i'm saying like it ain't really that wild of a concept is all i'm saying i think that canadians get a little
Starting point is 01:06:22 no it's not but i have to say i mean i was a grown man before i found out about about poohan i know what you're about to say and it's not a groundbreaking concept but when i first heard about it before i even had it i was was just like, well, that is genius. That's a revelation. Why didn't the rest of the world think of that? That's a fantastic can't miss idea, Canada. And I don't, I'm not even a big French fries guy, but I mean, I love potent because
Starting point is 01:06:54 you smother something in fucking brown gravy and cheese curds or whatever. Of course. It's going to hit for me. Yeah, of course. The world had, let me say this, and I'm not trying to take anything from Canada. But like, to me, I feel like we had a version of it is why we didn't do it. Because my dad makes fried taters every time. He makes gravy biscuits and we put the gravy on them.
Starting point is 01:07:13 But of course, totally different gravy, though. It is. No, I'm not trying to take anything from it. I'm saying, what am I trying to say? Like pizza, you know, versus nachos. You put a carb, you put a red sauce, you put cheese. Right. It's beautiful to me that the world has their different versions.
Starting point is 01:07:34 But the world, I'm just saying the world does have different versions. Steak frets. The great thing about steak freaks is if you get them in a fancy restaurant, The steak juice leased in your fries. Oh, God. It's not gravy. I'm not saying it's the same. It's the ju.
Starting point is 01:07:47 I'm just saying, like, it's the ju that do it. It is the ju that do it. I don't even know what I'm trying to say, Tray. I just feel like Canada deserves all the credit for Putin. I'm not saying they don't. Let's acknowledge that the world's been eating gravy taters in some capacity. They just mastered it and put a French name on it. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Everybody's this way about, like, dishes, regional dishes. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah. We're talking about a little bit ago, but like people are really defensive about food and really like a perfectionist about what is and is not. Oh, that's not a, you know, that ain't a carbon art. Traditional carbon art doesn't have garlic in it or whatever the fuck. Like that's such that's such a thing across all cultures. I feel like I mean, Drew used to.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And it was a joke and the joke hit really hard. But used to have that joke about vegan grits and, you know, being appalled by the existence of that or whatever. Like, and that joke works because people know. Well, I hear you. Correct. You're completely correct. I usually just think it's real dumb when people think that like where you are geography-wise, it can prevent you from doing something as good as some, like, I've eaten barbecue in New York that was amazing. Granted, the people that ran the barbecue place were from the South, and they moved to New York.
Starting point is 01:09:01 But like I told some people I was getting barbecue and you're like, I ain't going to be the same. I was like, they're from like Memphis though. And they're like, doesn't matter. You're in New York. And I was like, what does that matter? they can still do the shit. You know what I'm saying? Like they still can make it.
Starting point is 01:09:14 So like my thing is like, give me a fucking poutine recipe. Let me fucking cook it up at home. Why can't that be as good as fucking in Canada? They're not that complicated, they're not regional ingredients. This is what it's about. I feel like this is a slightly different thing.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yeah. No, they're implying you couldn't do it. Wait, let him finish for it. It's become this now. It wasn't this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:36 All right. Well, also though, let them, let them Canadians come down and eat barbecue at three different places, places you're not familiar with, you've never heard of, and then tell you barbecue sucks, and how would you react?
Starting point is 01:09:48 That ain't for you, you know? Like, that's, like, you know, like y'all ate it. You would say, you would say, you would say it. You would say it. Yeah, you're right. I probably would. I mean, and that's true, by the way. That is true.
Starting point is 01:09:59 But barbecue is a completely regional thing. Taters, gravy, and cheese ain't just Canada, it's what I'm saying. I think I'm with Kent Corey on that. That's what I mean. Like I do like, look, I would never fucking, if somebody's like, oh my God, you've got to try the papaya in Spain. I'd be like, I bet it's better. Or not papaya, what's the, uh, uh, paella, what's the, uh, uh, paella.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Yeah, I bet it is. Like I bet that is better. Like, they've actually got a saffron fucking branch in their, in their yard. You what I mean? That's a regional shit. Like the avocados in Mexico are going to be better than what I get in fucking Wisconsin. I know that. Like that makes sense to me.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Gravy, cheese and taters, though. that's not that ain't cheese in particular and gravy and gravy has a rue and gravy has a rue and there's different ways
Starting point is 01:10:49 to do the rue okay well a rue that's true but like all right a rue you're gonna do flour you're gonna do butter
Starting point is 01:10:57 I can make country greater way better and I can do brown gravy a rue though you're gonna do you're gonna do flour and butter
Starting point is 01:11:03 and then like if you want it brown you're gonna get a little beef stock in there whatever the fuck well and then potatoes would be best coming from Idaho.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Fucking Iowa's got some of the best goddamn beef in the world. So like, and Wisconsin's got the best cheese. So I'd say that the Midwest would have the best
Starting point is 01:11:18 puttin. I'm not saying you couldn't pull it off. I'm not saying you couldn't pull it off. I just think that I could see Canada having a decent regional
Starting point is 01:11:26 their gravy is different. Especially, it's French Canadian. That is different. And then motherfuckers love to cover stuff with cheese and gravy. They do.
Starting point is 01:11:33 That's such a wildly unfrench thing to think about. Somewhat disagree with Cho here in that I agree it doesn't mean just because I had what I consider to be incredible putine
Starting point is 01:11:47 in Riley, North Carolina once at some place. I'm sorry I don't remember the place. It was years ago now, but I thought it was phenomenal. And when we went to Canada on tour, I had protein up there that I thought was fucking wonderful too. Those people in Riley, they could have been Canadians. I don't know. You could be both, right?
Starting point is 01:12:02 But this idea, like cheese can be wildly different in quality. And in my opinion, French fries, French fries are one of the things that vary the most for me. Like, some french fries, I don't want to fuck with that at all. Big thick-ass steak fries. But like, stupid, just eat a baked potato, you eat it. Type of French fry well done.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Or it's so hard. Well, so French fries and cheese both can vary a lot. And then you got the gravy. I can just see a lot of different places being very, very different. I agree with them. I agree with them that. I agree with them that their poutine place is probably better than the one. I went in their head at least. That can happen. I get that. I'll concede that.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Let me say, first of all, I think I have a delay. I'm sorry, I keep stepping on people. I think we all do. It's okay. Trey, what this is about, I just realized that this man has a, has a beef, a pig with Canada. He has had for a while. No. Because of Canadian bacon. It goes back. It goes back. What was he used to say about Canadian bacon? No, it was Trey made that up. Trey made up that I said. Colin, Colin, did you really not remember that part?
Starting point is 01:13:12 Did you really not remember that part? No, that's how good it was. That's how good it was. That's wonderful. Yeah, that makes me feel great that you actually miss remember it as being an actual Corey line. You do it a Corey bit, right? Tell the audience, because we have a problem of thinking they know what we mean.
Starting point is 01:13:27 It was a little bit. Oh, yeah, we'll address that in just a second. If anybody's still around at the very end, but this is just, it was a little bit longerness, but the thrust of it was, a Corey bit. I wrote Corey a bit for his going to wait. This is a bit
Starting point is 01:13:40 you can have. Corey's like, well, Canadian bacon's a bullshit ain't it? It's like, Canadians's calling that stuff bacon will be like a woman
Starting point is 01:13:47 calling her calves, her lower tities. Like, I mean, you know, calves hit, but they ain't titties. And every,
Starting point is 01:13:57 dude, it sucks. Every time, every time this happened, I always go, dude, I've got to start remembering to do that.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Well, we just ain't been on a fucking row because it is a good joke. And like, I guarantee you one day, I'm going to believe that I wrote it. Without a doubt, I will believe. Like, no, that was me.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I know that's right. So, yes, Trey, the ultimate compliment. Just because I do want to, just since you brought it up for people that listened last week, I'm sorry we didn't clarify. We talked about dirt a lot. Dirt is Kratum. Yeah. Cratum is completely legal as of now and as of the past few years.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Completely legal. Herb, a drug, whatever. It's completely legal. It's a ground-up leaves of a plant that's related to the coffee. plant that's native Southeast Asia gets imported to America. People make tea out of it or just eat it and it has a lot of medicinal qualities. I've talked about it a lot, I feel like, over the years. So that's why I was taking it for granted last week.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Yeah. But I admit I shouldn't have. Well, the thing is is right. Last week, y'all would know what dirt was. I'm sorry. Dirt is what we, and that's a us thing, by the way. Yeah. That's what we call cratim.
Starting point is 01:15:04 But I maintain dirt as the person. perfect street name for Kratom. So it should spread. For the record, we absolutely have talked about dirt a lot. And I think people that have been listening to this podcast from the jump were not confused at all about it. But we always forget that like our podcast has grown over the past couple years. And I've literally, this is the most comments and direct messages I've ever got about something
Starting point is 01:15:32 that wasn't like, I guess overtly controversial or something like that. But I got three messages today. and only two of them A blank text me today. A word. Only two of them were like super like two people were legitimately concerned that I was on heroin.
Starting point is 01:15:47 And it's funny to and that the idea that they could have interpreted our conversation as being about heroin. When I think of, I know we didn't clarify what it was, but the idea that anyone landed on oh, they're talking,
Starting point is 01:16:01 because especially I think about what I was saying, because I was talking about using it all the time and frequent, Like, do they think I've been on heroin this all time? That's the thing, that's the thing, though. That's the thing, man, is that, like, I know that we're open books, but, like, heroin is still a very secret thing. Like, like, dude, if I was, if I was, if I was doing heroin, not only would I not talk about on the podcast,
Starting point is 01:16:27 I wouldn't even tell y'all in private. Like, that's a very, that's how shitty that fucking drug is. Like, and, like, the people on it are, like, this bad, but, like, two people were like, hey man, are you okay? And I was like, uh, I mean, no, but why do you ask? And they were like, well, are you, is, is dirt heroin? I was like, oh my God, because we were talking about it so positively. Like I just can't imagine somebody's like, wow, this podcast took a turn, man.
Starting point is 01:16:54 I didn't know. But yeah, that's hilarious. But no, dirt is crate them. Well, I just noticed what time it is. We got some other stuff we got to, uh, do recording wise. So we should probably wrap this here episode up. Sure do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Yeah, well, we'll see y'all next week. It'll be good. We're not on heroin. Nope, no heroin. December 12th. December 12th. December 12th, ladies' gentleman. Yeah, they're for my birthday.
Starting point is 01:17:20 So if you, for no other reason, let's say hypothetically you were like, I don't want to see them because I don't think they're funny. Just do it for my birthday. If you love this podcast. Thank you guys. And skew. They're the. They care way too much, but don't give a fun. They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset,
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