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Little tiny disclaimer.
Speaking of the new normal and getting used to things, Zoom, recording on Zoom remotely,
which is what we've had to do since we can't be together and tour and record
the podcast like we're used to.
It came with some getting used to and some an adjustment period.
And I think we adjusted great and, you know, figure everything out.
This week for some reason, I have no idea why, every single person had a delay.
Usually it's just like one person.
Just like whatever, but everybody had one.
I've gone in, fixed as much as I can.
It's a great episode.
It's not what I'm saying.
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What's the deal?
So it's just Zoom updated this week.
Maybe that's it.
I don't know, but just bear with us.
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Enjoy the episode.
Tell your friends.
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They like cornbread, but sex.
They care way too much, but don't give a fun.
They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset,
but they got three big old dicks that you can suck.
Well, here we are.
Here we are.
One week removed.
Well, actually, when this, when people listen to it,
but a few scant days removed from well-read holiday at home,
the online Zoom show, comedy show for you and yarn on your screens and in your heart.
Saturday, December 12th, 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern.
How's it going, fellas?
As far as that, like, you excited, are you ready?
You got some good shit for the people?
obviously no spoilers don't give it away but you know how you how you're feeling about it i'm feeling
good i've definitely got some good shit i'm basically having to uh mine's not uh it's my problem right now
is uh what shit it is i'm gonna say and man this whole like like online shows is the problem no no
i mean what i mean is like i don't i'm not i'm not uh searching for things that i want to say i'm
searching for the order in which to put them.
Yeah. How much?
How, well, because it's like, okay, this is Christmas, so I kind of want to do something
Christmas themed. And I, but also, I mean, hell, there's a lot to talk about this year that
has not a goddamn thing to do with Christmas. And these online shows, man, guys, as we've been
talking, they're great, but they're, you approach them so much differently because I would never
normally be thinking about doing a show and being like, yeah, I'm going to, and do all brand new
material that's coming out of my mouth for the first ever time, you know, like, I'm
would have like they would have been like dropped in to other shows and stuff like this but with with a
show like this it's like well i am that's what i'm doing i'm doing completely brand new material
and i haven't really had a way to practice it except for in my head and in the mirror but i've kind of
been enjoying that process so yeah i got a lot of shit that i want to say uh it's just getting it all
down to my my opening 20 and the opening 20 is important i uh i know you meant opening of
the show, but it sounded like you were referencing your own set.
Like, if I could figure out the first 20 minutes, the rest of the two would be smooth.
Okay, okay.
For me, I just figure y'all got it.
No, I don't, man, I've got a lot of great premises.
Like, you guys, these are just real good ideas I've come up with.
And one really, really, really, I'm really happy about it, hilarious bit.
Like, I think I can figure out a way to do it in the future.
future because I'm going to reference, you know, where we're at in the world to get started.
But the rest of the joke, God damn.
And I don't want to get too high on it because if it bombs, it'll break my heart.
And then the rest of them, like I said, good ideas, you know, good ideas.
We'll see.
Yeah, no, it'll hit.
No, listen, it's going to be a great show.
That's not my point.
Oh, it'll definitely hit.
I'm a great promo.
I don't know.
I don't know about it.
my point my whole
I'm gonna get hammered and ran about the abyss
it's gonna be funny
I just feel like it might be funny to watch a man
flounder for 25 minutes
like I'm funny mad so it's fine
because I'm gonna get mad if it don't work
here's my whole point
here's my whole point with what I meant
is that like I genuinely don't know where the country's at
right now in terms of like
what they want to hear and what they want to talk about
and the only way to ever know that
is like you know
some bullshit would happen like dude how many times
were we on tour and a goddamn mass shooting
would happen every show, right?
So you don't...
It sounds like it.
You never know what the temperature of the room,
but that's how you find the temperature of the room like this week.
Like, okay, we'll go out there and we'll kind of tread our feet in it.
And we'll see what's up.
We'll see if people are wanting commentary on what's going on,
or do they want escapism?
You can usually, like, within the first five to six minutes of any set, go,
all right, I know what, where I should pivot, where I should go.
But with a thing like this, when you're not able to go out,
I mean, what am I to do?
Go fucking Ace Hardware and just be like,
Hey, y'all come here.
See, how does this strike you?
You know, so, like, I feel like it's both a, it's like a blessing and a curse because, like,
it's like, well, I'm going to do my shit regardless.
It doesn't matter, you know.
And then, but it is also like, again, we're just having to get used to this whole, this brand,
this new normal of like human interaction in the thing that we do is the most important part
of what we do.
And we're removing it for just a little bit.
That's, that's, yeah, that's interesting because I'm struggling with a similar thing.
My angle on it though is more, and I even, I think I'm going to do a bit about this,
is I'm online all the time, that that's all I am.
I'm just at my house.
But I did go home, so that was a little different, just for a month.
So in the last nine months, I spent a month in Morgan County,
and the rest of it's been on the internet and hiding in my house.
I don't know what to trust, but I realize that's half of America right now.
And then the other half is having to go out.
out because see I do that podcast with DJ I'm getting reports from the dollar general right it ain't good
if y'all don't know it ain't good the reports from dollar general coming in it's not good news
no yeah it's funny I hadn't really thought about it the way you just said it like not in those terms
like you said I'm either on the internet or I'm like just here at the house like with my family or
whatever and that's pretty much the extent of my experience and that's definitely reflected in
what I have planned to talk about it now.
I hadn't even thought about it that way,
but it's pretty much all like either commentary on internet related things,
like things I've seen people do on the internet,
and hopefully other people have seen people do on the other internet,
and then also stuff about Katie and for the boys or whatever and that type of thing,
and the holidays and whatnot,
but it's very much reflective of my experience.
Well, I'm trying to channel the month I spend at home,
observing my in-laws and my parents live as if a pandemic may as well have been a
goddamn television show on the oxygen network ain't seen it ain't heard about it don't give a
fuck that's a that's a tremendous channel to using the example for the record I don't know how
many times how many different ones you workshop but that one's good let's take keep that one that was
sincerely off the dome no I'm having a good day I wrote the bit I love this morning I knew that it was
off the dome and that's why I did the dickhead thing of like you're clearly doing a bit because
that was funny.
Morgan County, what's the like actual?
Yeah, right, okay.
Because I'm just like, because like my last part.
Yeah, but you, I know, but you were saying your parents like.
That's not entirely true.
My parents, here's how, I talked to my mom about this and we had a very sincere, I think,
conversation yesterday because Andy and I.
I got a ticket, like a flight, to go home for Christmas a while ago.
And yesterday, we had to have the talk where I was like, look, that's probably not going to
happen.
I had hope in my eyes and in my heart when I did that.
And she understood, I don't know how understanding Andy's parents will be.
Andy has not broached that subject with him yet.
Anyway, all that is to say, to be fair to my parents, my parents have a pretty sober
outlook about this, know that they're older.
and I think basically they just didn't think it was going to get that bad there.
And now that it has, and to be fair, to their credit, it took a long time.
You know, as cases spiked in Knoxville and Nashville, it still wouldn't do.
They still hadn't known anybody that got it because they do roll in a small circle.
Even when the world was open backed up, my dad wasn't going to Knoxville.
Didn't give a fuck about Knoxville.
Might have been on the oxygen channel.
So he was keeping that circle small anyway, but now it's gotten pretty bad in Morgan County and Scott County, which is one county north where Andy grew up, is the worst in the state.
Clay County, my home county.
I haven't seen the very latest numbers, but I've seen different batches of numbers over the past few months.
And consistently, Clay County, my home county is top five.
Top five worst counties in the state of Tennessee numerically.
But my maim, I literally don't leave the house.
And Uncle Tim, like, wears fucking gloves and masks and mask and take.
sanitizers with him everywhere and people can't stand that people get mad at him for it but anyway i just
they don't the people in my fan i put out put that video of my mama and sister talking shit in the
dollar store parking lot out on the internet recently but i'm like by the way if you hadn't
see my actual family member go go to tray's twitter right now it's like pause pause this podcast right now
go watch it and then come back so this all makes sense it's a fucking i think drew i saw you comment on
on it's the funniest thing trace put out in years
It's so fucking
Probably ever
Not that page
Was looking for notes
But if she had flipped it around
To show her face
Even once or twice
It would be the most popular video
On the internet right now
For sure
For sure
But my point is
All of my actual people
Are not
They're taking it
Have always been taking it
Very seriously
And they're stuck in these
Cesspools where no one else is
But they're like outliers
But then my in-laws
though
Down in Wang County
Tennessee, which was one of the earlier rural counties to get hammered by it because there's a big prison there.
I said to say, I bet I know why.
And that's what happened.
And it put them on the radar, but then, of course, it got out of the prison.
I mean, Wayne County has been like ravaged by it.
And to hear Katie talk about it, it seems to me like, you know, they, not all of them or anything, obviously,
but generally speaking, there's been a bit of a tune change in Wayne County because they've had like, you know, prominent pillar of the community type people get it and die.
Multiple.
It wasn't just the poor.
No, I know, I know, but for real, though.
I know.
No, that's real.
And so it sounds like that, and big shit, like, where one of my, one of her extended, one of my extended in-laws works for like a utility company there.
and it just went all through.
It basically shut them down completely.
COVID did because there was an outbreak at the utility.
So like they had this near crisis where the utility company was basically non-functional because of COVID.
Stuff like that.
And so the way Katie talks about it makes it sound like, you know, all of a sudden, weirdly.
Right.
In Wayne County, it's like a little bit of a different attitude, but also it's like too fucking late now.
And plenty of them still aren't that way.
I don't want people to misunderstand me.
There's still plenty of people there.
They're like, fuck this shit.
But there's people, there's plenty of people that like genuinely, because I have a buddy
unnamed.
I'm going to say, is that because like, I don't want to get before this, but like, he works at a place
and they had a dude that worked there.
He was one of the bosses and he fucking, he died from coronavirus.
And all them had been not taking it serious at all.
So like when he died, it was like, yeah, no shit.
And so like my buddy thought, well, when he died, like, okay, surely now the other boss is going
to be like have seen the light but dude he just like doubled down and was like no you know
we'll call him mike mike would want us to keep coming in and keep going to work he did he he
was still coming in every day it's like right where did get him uh and and and so i think mike probably
did want that right for sure i'm glad i tend to agree actually they say i they say right but a lot of them
are i don't know these people you're talking about but i think a lot of them really it's like
you know, Mike probably would like, yeah, I mean, I had to get it.
Hell, I hope they all do get it.
Like, if I got to get it, if I got to get it, they ought to get it too.
If I come to work and I still got it, then they ought to come to work till they fucking get.
That's how I think about things.
Sure.
Rest in peace, you know.
These type of me, I don't know this.
It's that whole like, your rights, my rights.
Sure, but it's that whole your rights, my rights thing.
I have to say about country folk in general, many of them will die for their beliefs,
even if it is as dumb a belief as
I don't want to wear a mask.
But when you kill other people with it, that's the problem.
Please let me say this, though, about these two specific dudes,
the one who died and the one who's like, all hell, whatever.
The difference between them, yes, they're from here,
but they're also, like, they were the two heads of this company,
and they're very much the company man type dude.
Like, these dudes have stock in this kind.
Like, they're not being just stubborn just to be stubborn.
It's a money.
Like, they, they like, they like, go ahead.
Didn't he get it at a Republican donor super spreader event?
He sure did.
And, uh, dude, I'm glad he's fucking dead.
Like, make no, but I'm just saying like, like a lot of times, like, so around here,
I genuinely do believe there's some people that if, if somebody in their family got it,
it would change the way that they think about things.
Now, but let me preface this by saying, I'm not comparing what I'm about to say to getting the coronavirus.
But around here, I pretty much.
much, for the most part, unless they're like in my circle of friends of progressive friends,
for the most part, the only people in our town who were not only fine with gay people,
but like are very, you know, heavy on gay rights and stuff like that,
are people whose children came out of the closet.
You know what I'm saying?
Of course.
It happened to them and then all the sudden, oh, no, it's close.
I accept it.
I don't understand why I was this way before.
Now, that's great that those people have that wake up moment.
That's truly great.
But it literally takes that.
I mean, I always count.
It literally takes that.
I always, I know.
I mean, I always have explained my family's circumstances that way.
It happened before I was really around.
Like it happened before I was even born.
But I mean, you know, that's what happened with my, I don't, I don't know that because I wasn't there.
Right.
But I'm saying, you can assume.
Like all my family, they seem more, you know, that's what I've always chalked it up to.
I come from this like pretty progressive small family.
It's all that had a lot to do with the fact that Uncle Tim is gay and they all knew it.
And like, and like they didn't want to ostracize him.
They, you know, came around.
You tell me, you asked me, son, it's the other way around.
Now, all that progressiveness made him quit.
And it might have been.
Now, as I was saying, like, you know, so you'd think, like if some of the, if people that
had that attitude saw somebody in their family died of coronavirus, it would be the same thing.
Like, oh, it's happened to me personally.
So I'm different.
But you do also have the reverse where there's, I know.
know another family in town whose son came out gay.
And now these people have way more opinions on that you shouldn't be gay than they ever
had before.
Like they didn't say a goddamn word until now.
I guess it's like they, it's sort of the thing with us.
Like I feel like as a Southerner, I have to scream how progressive I am just because
I know other people think the opposite.
Like they've got a, I guess they're like, uh, uh, what's the, they got a, they got a chip
on it.
It ain't our fault, damn it.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Just so y'all know, we ain't cool with this.
yeah, like they're trying to make up for it or cover their bases.
But like, I don't know, man, like that, this, there's, I can't get a grass on fucking
Chikamaga or the South right now, especially because Georgia flipped blue.
You know what I mean?
Like some wild shits going on in the state.
And there's some people who I never would have thought, uh, would be like, hey, listen,
look, I'm not, I'm not a liberal or whatever, but like, wearing a mask and being safe shouldn't
be part of some politics.
And I'm like, yes, thank you.
That's exactly 100% correct.
And then I got some people who like, I've thought we're smart until now who were just like, let's have a cough party.
What do you say?
You know, like it don't make no goddamn sense.
I can't figure it out.
So I don't know, man.
We're in a way.
Well, I mean, that thing you said about everybody you know that seems to be okay with gay people are progressive about gay rights around there seems to have a gay relative.
I feel like that's like indicative of how the main thing.
Indecutive.
In my opinion.
I was laughing to that.
And I was also laughing at how it's fair because we're talking about people's reaction,
but we're straight up talking about disease and people being gay.
No, I know.
I prefaced it.
I preface it.
I said these are not the same thing.
And I'm saying I think you're right because you were saying now that if any of these people you would think,
know someone who gets COVID and dies or suffers very seriously from it,
that would also change.
viewpoint because that's what happened when their son came out of the closet or whatever.
And I was just going to say, like, taking it even further, I feel like that's what's
behind a lot of this shit.
Me and Katie talks about it all the time with like Wayne County.
There's, it's nothing.
I've told the story on the podcast before by how my mother-in-law told me that there were
not any gay people in Wayne County and never have been because you just couldn't be gay
there or whatever.
And there's no black people either, no, just straight white redneck people only, completely
homogenous in that entire community.
at least for the most part.
And like,
that,
I think that is directly related to the way they feel about all kinds of shit.
Right.
Mexicans,
immigration,
uh,
what,
what,
you know,
people in the cities.
It,
it's all the same thing,
but you can't have your son,
like,
come out as a Mexican immigrant.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
If they were forced,
if they were forced,
if they were forced to have some sort of level of familiarity with all of these
right.
It's why they'll never understand.
never understand.
To do it with homosexuality because of their son or daughter,
then maybe they would feel differently about the rest of it too.
Right.
But that other stuff kind of just can't happen.
It's just like it's why a lot of them will never understand the Black Lives Matter
movement, period.
They never will because that they genuinely, now I've said before and I mean it,
there for a while, like if you got somebody that,
if there's somebody around here and they really don't watch the news fucking ever,
I get them being kind of ignorant before, before Twitter,
before this 24-hour media,
before people had cell phones
and they were literally like,
anytime a cop did it,
somebody had a fucking, you know, video of it.
Because like, where I live,
that has never happened because there's no black people
so it couldn't have.
Right.
But in their mind,
they're like, that's same thing with COVID.
I don't know nobody that's happened to.
Therefore, that ain't happened to them.
But just like COVID's like,
all right, but look at the news.
These families crying.
Do you think they're fucking Sandy Hook actors?
You know what I'm saying?
But like, they will never,
they'll never put themselves there.
to try to understand black lives and everything because they're,
I don't get it.
We,
no black guys ever been shot here.
It's like,
first off,
that ain't true.
But like,
yeah,
I mean,
by the country,
in Chickamauga proper,
I've never,
we've never had an unarmed black guy to my knowledge get shot.
Maybe they drug him to Kutusa County afterwards.
I fucking don't know.
I'm just saying it's never happened.
I remember that time.
I'm not going to say the guy's name,
but we used to,
uh,
have these Facebook arguments all the time with a guy that Corey grew up with
and went to school with,
who was super, super conservative, but, like, also knew some big words.
I'm saying he didn't seem like a complete dumbass, but he said a lot of stuff that I
associate with dumbasses.
It's just put it that way.
That's called being a bad person I've learned.
He was coming on to Corey's post always with some shit like that, and then I would get
drawn into it or Drew Wood to or whatever.
It was just a thing.
Well, I'd send you all that shit and I'd bait you.
Because y'all are smarter than me, and I couldn't say big words back to him.
So I'd be like, y'all get his ass.
And I remember one time.
I think it was Ferguson.
It was around Ferguson time, right?
Yeah.
And he was just on his whole tirade about how like,
I don't care what anybody says,
racism is not a problem in this country anymore and hasn't been for a long time.
He's like, he's like, I'm however many years,
I'm 30 years old or whatever it was at the time.
He's like,
I've literally never once in my entire life even witnessed an overt display of racism.
And I live in the deep south.
And I was just like, yeah, but you live in fucking Ronald.
Reagan's dream world version of the deep south.
Like you don't ever see anything but people exactly like you.
I was like, I'm a comedian.
I travel around some.
And here's two stories of overt racism from the past month.
Yeah.
That I've dealt with that I witnessed and they were both true, you know,
but like he totally fully, well, not just he believed that.
That was true.
What he said.
It was true.
He was totally oblivious.
He was totally oblivious to like, why.
Why that was the case.
and me saying it had no effect.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, bubbles are real.
And now we're all on both sides, yeah.
A weird online one.
And I don't, yeah, yeah, I tweeted a thing earlier
and people got mad about it.
If I bring it up here, people get mad.
But someone tweeted the thing that there's a lot of people
who know less about how Nancy Pelosi
fucked up this, what's the word I'm looking for?
Not debate.
Campaign.
The package, the relief package.
Stimulus package.
Yeah, but when you're,
negotiation, that's the word I'm looking for.
Negotiation, yeah.
A lot of people know less.
A lot of people know less about,
whether you think she fucked it up or not,
a lot of people know less about that investigation.
Then they do the fact that Rudy Giuliani
farted twice into a microphone.
Right, true.
And the end of the tweet was something like,
so do you now?
I believe in liberal bubbles too.
The fact that you get into your little echo chamber,
that's got to be worse.
I just remember something about my parents, though,
that is also indicative of the type of people we're talking about.
The coach at the neighboring school died, unfortunately.
You all cry.
Basically to tell me to start taking my aspirin, my baby.
Yeah, you know, so maybe our kids.
or maybe our good players
would stop fucking moving down there
in the eighth grade.
Oh,
your mom and dad
separated,
but not really.
Anyway,
um,
he passed,
unfortunately,
and mom called me to tell me
to take baby aspirin
because clots are a big problem.
And she told me she'd been worried
because that's what happened to this gentleman,
unfortunately,
and I have had clots.
She called me,
she had to call me back
because she had missed my call
because her and dad were at the Mexican restaurant.
Right.
she told me that they went because they knew that they weren't going to be able to for the next month or so because it got bad again.
Now, mind you, no one's going to shut down that Mexican restaurant.
No, of course not.
Mom and dad just are like not going to go, which is the right thing to do.
For sure.
So they wanted to go one last time.
I feel that.
Dude, runny white, baby.
Ronnie white, that cheese.
How to go get that Ronnie White.
That's like even in, I don't know what I'm trying to say here.
I couldn't think of the fucking word negotiation.
I'm going to go, so I don't know why I could articulate this.
But even in changing their minds or changing their attitudes,
the habits and the life that they lead, it is boring in a small town,
but it is very comfortable.
For sure.
People don't want to be uncomfortable.
That's related to racism, COVID, any of these conversations.
Your kid coming out is gay.
the good thing about a small town,
even though it's boring and no concerts ever come to town,
is you generally speaking, know what's happening the next 10 fucking year.
For sure.
Yeah.
Something occurred to me,
I don't think we've addressed this on here.
We probably don't have to.
I mean,
our fans to listen to this and had this question would know this without us even saying it.
But for the record,
this whole conversation we just had,
how fucked up would it be?
If we had this whole conversation in mid-show,
we were like,
by the way,
keep in mind,
we'll be in Nashville next week.
Everybody come out and,
you know,
like, drive it.
I'm saying,
like, this is,
just so people know they're listening,
like,
it absolutely killed us to cancel these shows in particular.
These shows may more to us than any other weekend of shows.
We have their fucking homecoming shows.
Our favorite club in the country right for Christmas.
We love them.
And it killed us to,
uh,
to cancel them.
But literally,
just you can't be on the side of the conversation we just had, I feel like.
No.
Especially you know how many of our fans drive in from small towns, from Clay County,
Morgan County, and all the ones like it around Nashville and whatnot.
Like, you just, you can't do both.
It's just an untenable circumstance in my opinion.
And for everybody that, the thing to do.
For everybody that doesn't understand, because I assume it's a lot of people,
because why would you know, you don't understand how like booking works for like
comedy purposes. We booked the show. Well, hell, actually, we booked it. We booked that show a year
in advance because we just, we have a residency there. We just do that show. So like to us, it was,
okay, well, we've got that show. It's not like during the middle, what I'm trying to say is it's
not like during the middle of a pandemic, we fucking booked the show at Zanis. We had to show on the
books. And then our whole, like, we, we hoped against hope for so long. We're like, okay,
maybe it'll just get to the point where it slowed down enough to where like, we can just do a
socially distance one.
then just as the Ravens fly, the fucking day that it was supposed to be announced,
also announced the same day, like probably mere minutes apart was Tennessee has record number,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
So it looked like to a lot of people, that happened.
And then we were like, hey, by the way, come see us at Zanis.
But it was just eventually we just had to rip it off like a bandad.
And yeah, it fucking sucked, man.
Like, I'm not ashamed to admit.
I cried a little bit.
Like that show means a lot to me.
And not only that, like, you know, not to be sappy, I fucking miss you guys, like a lot.
Like, we talk every week, so that's, you know, that's fine.
But, like, genuinely, I really, really miss hanging out and drinking beer and, like,
talking shop and all that shit.
And so, yeah, for anybody out there just to let you know, that was extremely painful for us.
But like you said, Trey, my God, can you imagine if we're sitting here on this fucking soapbox?
And then everybody's fucking...
Right. It would take some pretty extreme mental gymnastics on our part to,
to justify.
And we tried to do it for a while.
Yeah.
We were trying to figure it out.
Trust me.
Well, you know, you see things like,
I guess we'll did those shows where it was different circumstances.
He was outside.
You only can sit with people you came with and all that.
But it's like you can see a way or you try to see a way in which the world can
operate.
Yeah.
under the fucking cloud of this,
partially because it has to at some point,
which unfortunately for comedy,
we're not required.
But, you know,
there are people out there right now.
I mean,
DJ never even took a fucking day off.
You know what I mean?
Like,
Dollar General just didn't shut down.
So you try to, like, do all the mental gymnastics of,
well,
how can we get around it or how can we be safe?
But,
unfortunately,
I guess it's the extremism that we live in.
And it's the,
you know like we we if you're just if you're on Twitter and you know in this point in the world with
the pandemic as you said everybody's a lot more your screen time on your phone that notifies you
every week it keeps going up you know we we're living on the internet we're trying not to go out
and even those people that are like fuck that places ain't open for them to do shit we've it feels
like we live in a more extreme world than we do because as everybody knows like on when you
start talking to somebody that you think you and them disagree you about five minutes in you're like
Wow, word, me too.
You know, like us talking to somebody about guns.
It happens.
But like, with this I found there's a lot of those people on both sides, but really, really on the right that are like, okay, we'll use what you were just saying, for example, Isbel did shows and they were outside and everybody had their own pod.
And that's great.
There's little, like, nobody's asking you to fucking literally wear a hazmat suit all the time.
It's like, hey, let's do everything we can within reason.
But some people don't want to do that.
They literally look at everything completely binary.
They're like, nope, we're either America or we ain't America.
It's either fucking full tilt or I don't want to fucking do it.
You know, and I'd rather be dead than have to have.
I don't want to fucking wear a mask while I'm in the lobby of a fucking bar.
I want everybody to be packed.
It's like they can't.
It's like, okay, but if we just, if we just don't do the unnecessary things,
nobody's telling you you can't go to fucking food line.
You got to go to food line.
We're just saying, don't crowd somebody at the fucking ice cream out.
Like, nope, no, no, no, no.
It has to be exactly the same, and nobody's willing to change even a little bit so that one day we can go back to that.
And it's just fucking frustrating.
But my mom's a good example, though, of like, I know they're not all like.
My mom's a Republican, and she's like, I'm going to wear my mask.
I'm a yada, yada, yada.
It's like, just do the best you fucking can.
That's really all anybody's asking.
Yeah, nuance is not a typical American trait.
It's not, again, on either side.
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Yeah, it does hit. There's, okay, so I've got,
I've got something that I'm kind of dying to talk about, but I don't know if I should. I can relate it
to I can relate it to something that comes up every now and then, but it also can be a tiresome
subject. And it's not the reason I want to talk about it. I can relate it to cancel culture and
that type of thing if I want to make it more relevant. But really, I just want to talk about
my cake show. That's what I want to talk about. The most recent season of my cake show,
I hope that this ends up being something that hits because it does get into some more societal
implications at the end of it. Let me give you all some, uh,
You just hear that?
What?
That was Thompson turning the fucking podcast off.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's been the goddamn trade of fucking cakes again.
But again, it gets bigger than cakes by the end of it, boys.
And I just want to talk about it as a viewer.
Always does.
Try to give you all the overview without any like explicit spoilers,
although it's going to be obvious if anybody's watching it.
So spoilers ahead for the later.
season of the Great British Bake Off.
Here's what happened was.
They had, every week
they have three challenges, okay,
and somebody goes home at the end of it.
They've said explicitly multiple times
that it's just that one week.
It's not cumulative. It's not how you've done
over the course of show up until that week.
It's just that one week.
There's a contest.
There was a contestant on this.
Yeah, it's come up before, right?
It's not the first time of something like this has happened,
but there's this contestant on this latest edition.
She was a, she's a person.
of color, an immigrant
from an African country now living
in England
and all season long
she was a total ringer, right? Her and this
one other guy, ringers, like clearly
a tear above the rest of them,
right?
She gets down to the final
four. The final, the very
final, is three of them, right?
So this is the semifinals, the final four.
It's her, the other ringer,
a guy who's pretty goddamn good,
and then this girl who's like kind of a mess.
a literal, she's always making a mess and always fucking up and barely scraping by, it seems like.
In that episode, the ringer lady had a terrible week by her own admission.
She fucked up the first two challenges, got to the showstopper, you could still save yourself with the showstopper.
She said on camera to them that she was scrapping her idea entirely for her showstopper, and she was just going to wing it.
Now, listen, y'all, somebody's watched every, every improv and baking.
of this show that every season of the show that's available in America, I've seen them all.
I ain't never seen no shit.
Like at this moment, I'm sitting on my couch.
Literally, I'm sitting on my couch screaming, what?
Why?
Why would you do that?
Don't do that.
That's not going to work.
You can't do that.
Like you said, yo, baking's a science, right?
Yeah, for sure.
You can't improv.
Winging it in this hot.
But she says, like, I'm throwing it all out.
I'm just going to wing this.
And guess what?
It didn't work.
Really?
It fucked it up.
it was a disaster.
She got sent home.
People were furious,
furious to the point that the host,
Paul Hollywood and the producers
and the contestants who've been on the show
all had to like issue statements
asking people to stop
harassing the other girl,
the one who made it through
because the ringer failed and got sent home,
the one who made it through,
who's a white girl,
by the white English girl,
people were harassing her on the internet,
like just talking shit,
talking about I sorry.
she didn't deserve to be there.
And then of course,
and here's where it gets into
the larger societal thing.
I've read articles about this,
but it was in the blogosphere lately.
People started saying that it was,
you know,
that it was racially motivated.
She fucked up,
right?
It's not a very diverse show overall.
Right.
Yeah,
and I think by her own admission,
she fucked up.
And it just,
that's all that happened.
Yeah.
That's all that happened.
But it had to turn into this whole,
like,
ulterior motive unfairness thing that people were pissed off about and this like you know small online
outrage but it's like me and drew were talking this weekend separately like how many people even were
like actually outraged about it i don't know probably not that many but enough that the actual
people on the show the producers and hosts and stuff like publicly addressed the controversy or
whatever but i guess i'm just saying like i have a theory on that
I don't, it does, not everything has to be some bigger thing.
Like, it, there's not a conspiracy or some underlying ulterior motive to everything.
Sometimes what appears to happen is just what happened.
And like, what I think, fucked up and got sent home.
That's how that's show works.
That's all that happened.
And it's just, what I think was shit like that is that, I absolutely believe that at first, like,
there was some, dude, there's, of course some people who make that shit.
about everything.
Like there's your fucking
Jezebel bloggers,
no offense to anybody
that listens to us
that writes for Jezebel.
That's just the most cliche
you know,
Brooklyn website I can think of
that like overwoke
or like overreaching for shit.
I believe that at least a couple of people
absolutely felt that way.
But what I think is
the reason that,
because dude,
I run in liberal circles
and I always see this crazy shit
that liberals supposedly are mad about
yet when I ask every liberal
I know. They're like, no. No. I think that like the conservatives, and for the record,
not saying that we can't be guilty of like just posting all the Marjorie Green Taylor shit
and being like, this is all of them. But like them motherfuckers, they see something like that.
And the higher ups, they look at that and they go, this is a great opportunity for us to
de-legitimize the fucking actual racism in this country. If we can, if the Richard Spencer see that,
they put that shit on parlor,
They can always have that in their back pocket to when some real racist shit happens,
they can go, y'all make everything about race.
And they got the fucking proof positive right there.
But if you actually go to that fucking article,
it's got like, you know, three comments on it or some shit like that.
Nobody really cared.
They just grabbed the headline and it's great for bait.
It's great for ammo.
That's what I, that's, I think that those people end up making those articles more popular
than actual people who feel that way because there's only a hundred of them.
That's me.
no i i agree with you
yeah i think the only thing i'll add to that and you're completely right
especially about what that does
you know look we should all be above boy who cried wolf scenarios
when it comes to racism and oppression
if if if the media makes a big deal out of a million instances
of fake racism we should still freak the fuck out when the real shit happens
Sure.
But, but you're right.
It's human nature.
That's what's happening.
There are 330 million Twitter users.
You have to assume most of those skew a little bit, if not super to the left.
If nothing else, because of Parlor, now most, I mean, it might be 60%.
It might be 70.
I don't know.
But if you think about the age breakdowns, because Parlor has popped up, so a lot of far-right people have left Twitter,
you have to assume that that's mostly liberal people.
So if you say, we'll just throw a number out, that 190 million of those people are left leaning,
you know, you said it's going to be three comments.
I think it's more than three comments.
Sure.
I think that it sounds like in this instance, Trey, there were a few people going after this girl.
I think what happens in those scenarios is they didn't want that girl to go through
because she wasn't as good as the ringer.
And when your brain wants something, and this ain't my theory, this is something that I've read about in a book I've been reading recently, this is pretty well accepted in evolutionary psychology circles.
When your brain wants something to be true, it will work overtime to make it thus.
Absolutely.
We used to think that the logic part of the brain's job was to overcome our emotions, but it actually,
evolved to support our emotions,
to reinforce our emotions,
to tell us that our emotions are right,
to give us reasons to punch a guy we want to punch,
not overcome the desire to punch a guy we want to punch.
I'm bringing all that up to say,
they didn't want the ringer to go through,
and the racism that has existed in Great Britain,
especially when it comes to Indian people,
is in the back of people's minds
and in people's hearts.
I don't think you're a bad person if you're worried
that a talented Indian
Baker got fucked over.
She wasn't Indian, she was African, but I mean, yeah.
I could have raised that Indian, I'm sorry.
No, yeah, African
immigrant, but yeah, but people like, yes, they just,
you're 100% right too.
A lot of people watch the show just didn't feel like
the white girl, you know, didn't,
she didn't deserve to be in the final.
This other, the ringer deserved it more.
Right. Even though she had a bad week,
Still, it was this miscarriage of justice, and that got them all pissed off just as fans of the show, but then it spiraled out of control.
There was another complaint about this season.
They said that they had a Japanese week.
Like, every week is themed.
Hell yeah.
And so they had Japanese week where it's all Japanese desserts you're supposed to make.
But it's a bunch of British amateur home bakers, right?
And like, apparently, I didn't know.
I'm not going to sit here and act like I knew.
Yes.
Right.
And I'm not going to sit here.
I didn't know when I was watching it.
I'm a white American.
dude. I had no idea, but apparently
some of the bakers were on
there, it was, those are, that's
a Chinese dessert. They did Chinese
flavors, you know what I mean?
Those are Chinese flavors, not Japanese
or Thai, or Thai or Korean
or whatever. I'm certainly not
saying cancel the show, but I can see how that made
people mad. Yeah, but you can't,
I don't know what, I don't know what
the show is supposed to do about
that happening is my point based on
Oh, the biggest show. Yeah, they don't know
when they choose. They choose their own recipes
their own flavors.
I mean, the show could have just avoided that because they could have had the foresight
to know something like that might happen, but I'm saying...
We got to stand up at some point, God damn it.
I don't...
Fucking food, let her...
Go with it.
That's where I start losing shit.
Yeah, we should definitely be making each other's food, but we ought to say whose food it is.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
But if, like, in this instance, we're like, dude, that's clearly, like, it's not like...
It's not like they were all, you know, well, this is actually...
Chalnese. This is actually Chonais, but
fuck the Japan. I'm not going to say it. You know what I mean?
Like there was no malice. Yeah. It's
certainly not worse. But it is
pretty bad, though, that what actually happened
was, somewhere in their
brain, it was all the same.
Or whoever taught that to them.
In that person's brain, it was all the same.
So, honestly,
it sounds like by the nature of the show they couldn't
do this, they should have scrapped that episode.
Yeah, they would
have to just start over and film a whole other one
if they realized it was problematic. But I think
Also, what I think, it's a competition.
These people care about this shit a lot.
And I bet you what also happened.
And this includes a version of, oh, it's all the same.
But like, they, I guarantee you most of them did something they felt they had some level of comfort with so it wouldn't suck.
You know what I mean?
They were like, here's a thing I can do and pass off for Japanese week and it'll be good.
Yeah.
And I don't want to go home.
I don't know about bacon with almond flour, but I am much more comfortable with racism.
That's right in my fucking will.
It tastes fucking excellent.
Yeah.
I just, yeah, I don't, you know,
because it also was like stuff like,
like that the thing they made was like a traditional Japanese dessert,
but again, the flavors in it weren't.
There were something else.
But like they do that on purpose all the time on that show
and no one ever cares.
It's a fusion cake.
Like traditional meat pies, like English meat pies,
but they'll make it with like a Jamaican curry inside or whatever the fuck.
Stuff like that happens all.
the time and no one ever cares.
I don't think anyone would have been, not many people would have been upset about that.
If they had said the traditional Japanese is X, I've chosen to do Y because blah, blah, blah.
I think it's just that that is reflective of the history of racism in Great Britain and how we,
as white people and frankly black people, at least in America, just kind of do still think
all Asians are the same.
I'm not saying therefore cancel the show or crucify these people.
I just,
that one makes way more sense to me than the other story.
I could see that being fucking annoying at the very least.
This kind of reminds,
now we're really about to get into it.
This kind of reminds me of how I feel in some ways about like Joe Rogan,
where however you feel about Joe Rogan in general,
people will be like, you know,
he platforms,
these awful people with these awful thoughts.
And he does.
Yes, and he does platform those people.
And if you have a problem of that,
great.
I think your heart's in the right place,
and that's cool.
But it's strange to me
that people have such a problem with Joe Rogan
having Milo Napalopas
or wherever the fuck his name was on.
You know, like we don't want to give him a platform.
But then the Democratic Party
will give literal war mongers
a political platform.
in a cabinet or
you know they're now the
fucking ambassador to whatever kind of it's like
you know I'm talking about with scale
I'm not saying that makes confusing
I'm not saying it's okay that these bakers
confuse Chinese and Japanese cultures
that's not okay but if that's
where all your outrage lies and whatever
the week is whatever week we're on
this is who we're mad at but you don't
at least couple that with
recognizing that we literally
bum brown people
we made the fucking
island of Japan stopped believing in God because we wanted to see how atomic bombs worked.
I think that's one of them things like Neil Brennan was talking about that one time when he was,
you know, somebody asked him about like, you know, you're a comedian, you've tweeted some
controversial shit.
Like how do you deal with like public backlash?
And he was like, well, for me, it's pretty simple.
My method is if I say something and everybody's like, oh, fucking Neil shouldn't have said
that, you should apologize.
He's like, I wait three days.
And if everybody's still talking about it after three days, I'll fucking, I'll apologize.
guys, but usually they aren't because it just fucking goes away.
I feel like with some shit like this,
if like with this Japanese food thing,
maybe if the cake show just didn't give it no fucking lip service for a couple
days,
it probably would have gone away.
And then after a while,
if it's still being talked about it,
be like,
okay,
sorry,
we should have made sure this was an authentic Japanese cake.
But there's a lot of it that like,
you probably,
like a lot of these people probably could ignore it.
Now you shouldn't ignore like bigger things.
Like,
you know,
if you've got a show with a fucking like,
if you're on a television show,
there's a rape culture, like, get out ahead of that shit.
You know, like, don't ignore that.
Don't be flipping about that.
Don't be obtuse.
But like some of those things, if they just didn't comment,
I think probably after a week everybody would be like,
oh, let's say what the talk is this week.
I agree as that would be applied to the first story.
I think they should have apologized for the second story pretty quickly.
But I don't think it's the end of the world.
Maybe that's easy for me to say as a white guy.
Sure.
Well, okay.
It's easy for you to say,
as a white guy and also, uh, considering we're talking about a show about cake when it's,
it'd be one thing. It'd be one thing if the lady, if there was a lady on there and she,
like, they, they, they left this in. Like, they didn't edit out. She was sitting there putting
her flour in and she's like, you know what? I think this soy sauce is actually from Taiwan. Oh, well,
Chinese, Japanese, dirty nays, look at these. Anyways, let's, you know, like, that'd be way different.
Like, if they made like a whole fucking thing about it. But realistically, she just put crispy
onions on some shit that wasn't supposed to have
crispy onions, you know, or some fucking shit
like that. Like, I don't know, like it ain't the same.
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at jCP.com all dressed up everywhere to go jacepenny yeah well i mean i'm with you failers uh that's all the
cake related controversy i had uh so thanks for humor me on it i appreciate it it's just one of the
things we're like and again yes i'm you know i'm a white dude now i love that show it's the latest
season i watch it i didn't pick up on not none of that yeah and then when the whole season's over
i see uh you know articles that summarized all this outrage and controversy
And I was like, wait, what?
And because it was all behind me, as I'm reading,
I was like, this is all, that, no, no, that's all bullshit, you know.
That's really interesting, though, because that means that either,
as they were editing that week, no one knew.
Yeah.
Or the producers realized that and just decided not to say anything about it.
And again, I can see a jabber.
or Chinese person going,
Jesus.
Like, this is, this is our culture.
This is our shit, you know.
Get it right.
You know.
But it's, like Corey said,
like the,
that whole fusion thing, like it's,
I'm not saying this was the entirety
of what people were upset about,
but like I said,
it was like putting other cultures,
flavors or ideas into a Japanese shell,
like making a Japanese dish,
but with all this other stuff in it.
And like I said,
as somebody who's watched every episode of that show,
they do that all the,
time. And no one ever is bothered by it when it's mixing two other ones. You know what I mean?
This world would suck if food was never appropriated. Oh my God. That that that's not appropriation.
No, I know, but that we can talk about it. We can talk about appropriation. I want to clarify something here.
I may have misunderstood you. I thought they were making Chinese desserts and calling them Japanese
desserts. Are you now telling me they were making Japanese desserts, but putting some Chinese or
traditionally Chinese spins or yes that that I told oh my god oh my God I thought I totally
misunderstood you I thought you were saying both I heard you say the thing or even I remember one of them
wasn't even it wasn't even Chinese stuff it was like like one of them was like some kind of
stained bun thing that they do in in Japan I guess and like one girl that was on there filled hers
with American cheeseburger ingredients which would hit Japanese stained bum but right
sound like it sound like a hit and I did it so few yeah I'm saying that that that that
type of thing they do on that show all the time. So as far as why the producers didn't think,
oh, this is kind of fucked up. We should back off of this. I totally get it because it didn't seem
any different to me, but apparently it struck people differently. I literally thought it was like,
we're going to make Spanish desserts today and somebody came in there with a tiramisu and put a
sombrero on. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, isn't that an Italian dessert? You're saying,
no, they were making a fucking Spanish dessert, but it was.
Tiram and Sue flavor. That analogy might be terrible.
But, you know, I get what you're saying.
Well, yeah, like, again, it was, it was even, it was even less egregious than what you thought,
and you already were kind of on the fence about, like, I'm now saying it's not egregious at all,
and I'm completely with you, Trey, and I'm sorry, I just argued with you kind of for eight minutes.
I totally fucking misunderstood what happened and no, that's stupid.
I mean, to me, it's like if somebody, if we were watching a show and somebody was making biscuits and
gravy and they just made the gravy a little bit different than we normally do and us being like god
damn it i'd be fake mad yeah well yeah like i did a i did a uh uh a sizz for this show i was trying to
pitch one of this place and i was eating biscuits and gravy like one of the things they were
serving me biscuits and gravy and this dude like chopped up parsley to top the biscuit and gravy with
for the record doesn't literally the whole thing about parsley is that it don't ever affect the taste
at all but like like it's it's a great garnish for that
reason, but like, that pissed me off. But like, not enough to be like, but not enough to be like,
sir, this is not how we do it. This is a fucking, this isn't a representation of my culture and
blah, blah, blah. It is. Now, again, white man, completely different thing. But like, yeah,
it's more like that. It's like, yeah, I wouldn't do that. But, you know, fucking whatever. That's just
how you're making it. Right. Whereas, again, it would still be different. If somebody tried to say,
that Putin was a southern dish.
Right.
Again, it would be different
because I don't have the attachment
of fucking colonialism
with my culture,
but I would be like,
wait a minute,
no it ain't.
What the fuck,
you know?
Man,
let me talk about it.
I'm so sorry.
I feel like,
I feel really guilty
because I feel like
I just put us in the weeds
for 10 minutes.
No,
you're fine.
And I also felt crazy.
I was like,
why don't y'all think
this is something
to apologize for?
And I now realize
this because I was thinking
of a completely
a scenario than it happened.
Which would have been different.
By the way,
let's talk about Putin for a second.
because I've actually been
well not I actually I had a conversation with a couple
Canadians a couple weeks ago on Twitter
about Putin and this is a thing
look maybe I'm just way off base but like
when Canadians start getting like
trying to tell me that I don't know shit
about French fries gravy and cheese
it really grinds my fucking gears like in a southern way
like I know they do it different
but like it's really not that fucking wild of a goddamn concept you know what I'm saying
like it's really not which I mean I guess I could say like biscuits and gravy and
I think I need a little more context of my dad makes they were saying to fried tailors all the time
I just said what was the argument they had what were they going after you for so which
something something something had been like it wasn't even like I made a post about fucking
puteen or something but like I was talking I was on a Twitter thread or something I noticed that
there was a bunch of goddamn, you know, like Canadians on there.
And I was like, oh, what's up, Canada?
You know, it was like on one of my posts.
Like, how y'all doing?
And then they were talking about something.
And they, that somebody, God damn it.
Somebody was like, you know, the show likes Poutin, you know, because like, why wouldn't I?
And then everybody was, like, giving their opinion on how much I would love
protein and, like, other really fat foods that I would probably like.
On my thread, it was one of the same, like, how people talk to your grandma,
like, she ain't in a goddamn room.
Like I'm sitting like I'm getting added on every single one of these.
And so finally I'm-
Much like my granny who never stopped eating sugar,
it was both y'all's fault.
But go ahead.
Yeah, for sure.
But no,
it's my fault.
But like,
anyways,
I chimed in with like,
yeah,
no,
ever heard of closing the goddamn?
I was thinking it too.
I chimed in with like,
hey,
obviously I love French fries,
gravies,
and cheese.
I ain't going to lie.
But like,
y'all are acting like
it's clearly.
clearly one of my favorite foods and I'm just here to tell you like not really like I to me it's just too soggy for the most part and blah-blades it's good I'll eat it but like I'm not like oh shit let me get back to Canada so I can get some fucking you know gravy fries and buddy every single one of them Canadians probably rightfully so was just like not but as Canadians do they weren't like call me an asshole they were just like where'd you get it where'd you get it though and I was just like honestly I don't remember I had it several different places they're like okay well then you
You don't know shit then.
And I was like, fair, you're right.
I don't know from which I speak.
But they were just like, look, it's got to be proper.
It's got to be this.
It's got to be that.
And I was sitting there like, I know you're right.
Like you're from Canada.
This is y'all's thing.
I'm sure that if I went to your Poutin place, it would be better than the Poutine I had.
But like, just the sheer disrespect to go from, look at this fat motherfucker.
I know he loves Poutine to you don't know shit about French fries, gravy and cheese.
like these motherfuckers just invented the goddamn segue or something like that you know what i'm saying
like it ain't really that wild of a concept is all i'm saying i think that canadians get a little
no it's not but i have to say i mean i was a grown man before i found out about
about poohan i know what you're about to say and it's not a groundbreaking concept but when i
first heard about it before i even had it i was
was just like, well, that is genius.
That's a revelation.
Why didn't the rest of the world think of that?
That's a fantastic can't miss idea, Canada.
And I don't, I'm not even a big French fries guy, but I mean, I love potent because
you smother something in fucking brown gravy and cheese curds or whatever.
Of course.
It's going to hit for me.
Yeah, of course.
The world had, let me say this, and I'm not trying to take anything from Canada.
But like, to me, I feel like we had a version of it is why we didn't do it.
Because my dad makes fried taters every time.
He makes gravy biscuits and we put the gravy on them.
But of course, totally different gravy, though.
It is.
No, I'm not trying to take anything from it.
I'm saying, what am I trying to say?
Like pizza, you know, versus nachos.
You put a carb, you put a red sauce, you put cheese.
Right.
It's beautiful to me that the world has their different versions.
But the world, I'm just saying the world does have different versions.
Steak frets.
The great thing about steak freaks is if you get them in a fancy restaurant,
The steak juice leased in your fries.
Oh, God.
It's not gravy.
I'm not saying it's the same.
It's the ju.
I'm just saying, like, it's the ju that do it.
It is the ju that do it.
I don't even know what I'm trying to say, Tray.
I just feel like Canada deserves all the credit for Putin.
I'm not saying they don't.
Let's acknowledge that the world's been eating gravy taters in some capacity.
They just mastered it and put a French name on it.
Maybe.
Everybody's this way about, like, dishes, regional dishes.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, yeah.
We're talking about a little bit ago, but like people are really defensive about food and really like a perfectionist about what is and is not.
Oh, that's not a, you know, that ain't a carbon art.
Traditional carbon art doesn't have garlic in it or whatever the fuck.
Like that's such that's such a thing across all cultures.
I feel like I mean, Drew used to.
And it was a joke and the joke hit really hard.
But used to have that joke about vegan grits and, you know, being appalled by the existence of that or whatever.
Like, and that joke works because people know.
Well, I hear you.
Correct. You're completely correct.
I usually just think it's real dumb when people think that like where you are geography-wise,
it can prevent you from doing something as good as some, like, I've eaten barbecue in New York that was amazing.
Granted, the people that ran the barbecue place were from the South, and they moved to New York.
But like I told some people I was getting barbecue and you're like, I ain't going to be the same.
I was like, they're from like Memphis though.
And they're like, doesn't matter.
You're in New York.
And I was like, what does that matter?
they can still do the shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they still can make it.
So like my thing is like,
give me a fucking poutine recipe.
Let me fucking cook it up at home.
Why can't that be as good as fucking in Canada?
They're not that complicated,
they're not regional ingredients.
This is what it's about.
I feel like this is a slightly different thing.
Yeah.
No,
they're implying you couldn't do it.
Wait,
let him finish for it.
It's become this now.
It wasn't this.
Okay.
All right.
Well, also though, let them,
let them Canadians come down
and eat barbecue at three different places,
places you're not familiar with,
you've never heard of,
and then tell you barbecue sucks,
and how would you react?
That ain't for you, you know?
Like, that's, like, you know, like y'all ate it.
You would say, you would say, you would say it.
You would say it.
Yeah, you're right.
I probably would.
I mean, and that's true, by the way.
That is true.
But barbecue is a completely regional thing.
Taters, gravy, and cheese
ain't just Canada, it's what I'm saying.
I think I'm with Kent Corey on that.
That's what I mean.
Like I do like, look, I would never fucking, if somebody's like, oh my God, you've got to try the papaya in Spain.
I'd be like, I bet it's better.
Or not papaya, what's the, uh, uh, paella, what's the, uh, uh, paella.
Yeah, I bet it is.
Like I bet that is better.
Like, they've actually got a saffron fucking branch in their, in their yard.
You what I mean?
That's a regional shit.
Like the avocados in Mexico are going to be better than what I get in fucking Wisconsin.
I know that.
Like that makes sense to me.
Gravy, cheese and taters, though.
that's not
that ain't
cheese in particular
and gravy
and gravy has a rue
and gravy has a rue
and there's different ways
to do the rue
okay well
a rue
that's true
but like all right
a rue
you're gonna do flour
you're gonna do butter
I can make country greater
way better
and I can do
brown gravy
a rue though
you're gonna do
you're gonna do
flour and butter
and then like
if you want it brown
you're gonna get
a little beef stock in there
whatever the fuck
well and then
potatoes would be best
coming from Idaho.
Fucking Iowa's got
some of the best
goddamn beef in the world.
So like,
and Wisconsin's got the best
cheese.
So I'd say that the Midwest
would have the best
puttin.
I'm not saying
you couldn't pull it off.
I'm not saying you
couldn't pull it off.
I just think that
I could see Canada
having a decent regional
their gravy is different.
Especially,
it's French Canadian.
That is different.
And then motherfuckers
love to cover stuff
with cheese and gravy.
They do.
That's such a wildly
unfrench thing to think about.
Somewhat disagree
with Cho here
in that
I agree it doesn't mean
just because I had what I consider
to be incredible putine
in Riley, North Carolina once at some
place. I'm sorry I don't remember the place. It was years
ago now, but I thought it was phenomenal.
And when we went to Canada on tour, I had
protein up there that I thought was fucking wonderful too.
Those people in Riley, they could have been
Canadians. I don't know. You could be
both, right?
But this idea, like
cheese can be wildly
different in quality.
And in my opinion, French fries, French fries are one of the things that vary the most for me.
Like, some french fries, I don't want to fuck with that at all.
Big thick-ass steak fries.
But like, stupid, just eat a baked potato, you eat it.
Type of French fry well done.
Or it's so hard.
Well, so French fries and cheese both can vary a lot.
And then you got the gravy.
I can just see a lot of different places being very, very different.
I agree with them.
I agree with them that.
I agree with them that their poutine place is probably better than the one.
I went in their head at least. That can happen. I get that. I'll concede that.
Let me say, first of all, I think I have a delay. I'm sorry, I keep stepping on people.
I think we all do. It's okay.
Trey, what this is about, I just realized that this man has a, has a beef, a pig with Canada.
He has had for a while. No. Because of Canadian bacon. It goes back. It goes back.
What was he used to say about Canadian bacon?
No, it was Trey made that up. Trey made up that I said.
Colin,
Colin, did you really not remember that part?
Did you really not remember that part?
No, that's how good it was.
That's how good it was.
That's wonderful.
Yeah, that makes me feel great that you actually miss remember it as being an actual
Corey line.
You do it a Corey bit, right?
Tell the audience, because we have a problem of thinking they know what we mean.
It was a little bit.
Oh, yeah, we'll address that in just a second.
If anybody's still around at the very end, but this is just, it was a little bit
longerness, but the thrust of it was,
a Corey bit.
I wrote Corey a bit
for his going to wait.
This is a bit
you can have.
Corey's like,
well,
Canadian bacon's a bullshit
ain't it?
It's like,
Canadians's calling that stuff
bacon will be like a woman
calling her calves,
her lower tities.
Like,
I mean,
you know,
calves hit,
but they ain't titties.
And every,
dude,
it sucks.
Every time,
every time this happened,
I always go,
dude,
I've got to start remembering
to do that.
Well,
we just ain't been on a fucking row
because it is a good joke.
And like,
I guarantee you one day,
I'm going to believe that I wrote it.
Without a doubt, I will believe.
Like, no, that was me.
I know that's right.
So, yes, Trey, the ultimate compliment.
Just because I do want to, just since you brought it up for people that listened last week,
I'm sorry we didn't clarify.
We talked about dirt a lot.
Dirt is Kratum.
Yeah.
Cratum is completely legal as of now and as of the past few years.
Completely legal.
Herb, a drug, whatever.
It's completely legal.
It's a ground-up leaves of a plant that's related to the coffee.
plant that's native Southeast Asia gets imported to America.
People make tea out of it or just eat it and it has a lot of medicinal qualities.
I've talked about it a lot, I feel like, over the years.
So that's why I was taking it for granted last week.
Yeah.
But I admit I shouldn't have.
Well, the thing is is right.
Last week, y'all would know what dirt was.
I'm sorry.
Dirt is what we, and that's a us thing, by the way.
Yeah.
That's what we call cratim.
But I maintain dirt as the person.
perfect street name for Kratom.
So it should spread.
For the record, we absolutely have talked about dirt a lot.
And I think people that have been listening to this podcast from the jump were not
confused at all about it.
But we always forget that like our podcast has grown over the past couple years.
And I've literally, this is the most comments and direct messages I've ever got about something
that wasn't like, I guess overtly controversial or something like that.
But I got three messages today.
and only two of them
A blank text me today.
A word.
Only two of them were like super
like two people were legitimately concerned
that I was on heroin.
And it's funny to
and that the idea
that they could have interpreted our conversation
as being about heroin.
When I think of,
I know we didn't clarify what it was,
but the idea that anyone landed on
oh, they're talking,
because especially I think about what I was saying,
because I was talking about using it all the time
and frequent,
Like, do they think I've been on heroin this all time?
That's the thing, that's the thing, though.
That's the thing, man, is that, like, I know that we're open books, but, like,
heroin is still a very secret thing.
Like, like, dude, if I was, if I was, if I was doing heroin, not only would I not talk about on the podcast,
I wouldn't even tell y'all in private.
Like, that's a very, that's how shitty that fucking drug is.
Like, and, like, the people on it are, like, this bad, but, like, two people were like,
hey man, are you okay?
And I was like, uh, I mean, no, but why do you ask?
And they were like, well, are you, is, is dirt heroin?
I was like, oh my God, because we were talking about it so positively.
Like I just can't imagine somebody's like, wow, this podcast took a turn, man.
I didn't know.
But yeah, that's hilarious.
But no, dirt is crate them.
Well, I just noticed what time it is.
We got some other stuff we got to, uh, do recording wise.
So we should probably wrap this here episode up.
Sure do.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, we'll see y'all next week.
It'll be good.
We're not on heroin.
Nope, no heroin.
December 12th.
December 12th.
December 12th, ladies' gentleman.
Yeah, they're for my birthday.
So if you, for no other reason, let's say hypothetically you were like, I don't want to see them because I don't think they're funny.
Just do it for my birthday.
If you love this podcast.
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