wellRED podcast - #218 - A Recap Of The Oscars That We Didn't Watch
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Heidi.
Um,
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so the Oscars was last night.
And for the first time in a long time.
I don't,
I have really know.
I know a couple of things that happened, but I don't know much.
I used to be so into the Oscars.
Me too.
And I've always kind of kept up with them, but I just didn't, I didn't this year at all.
And I'm sure this is controversial to a lot of people because I don't mean this in a shitty way.
I don't mean this to take away from any of the winners or whatnot.
But when I found, when they even announced they were going to have the Oscars this year,
I was kind of like, well, I guess I'm not surprised because it's, you know, they want to keep that going or whatever.
but it seems like an odd year to even have it to me.
Right.
Just because like, I mean, you know, the obvious reason,
Hollywood was like effectively shut down for a huge chunk of it.
And there's just, it seems like an asterisk type year.
And that's what I'm saying.
It's like, I don't mean that as an insult to the people that won,
like you should have an asterisk by your thing.
But it just, it's just a weird.
Well, here's the deal.
You don't know anything about what happened or you just mean you didn't know about the movies
because I don't ever know shit about the Oscars.
And I know what happened just because I have.
I stay on Twitter and read it too much.
Oh, see, I've been off Twitter, and the only reason I know anything that happened is, as I was
walking up here, Amber goes, do you hear what everybody's pissed about at the Oscars?
And I was like, I was like, no.
And now, by the way, by the way, you got to understand when my wife says, do you hear
what everybody's pissed about at the Oscars?
This probably means two teacher friends of hers on Facebook said some shit.
Like, it probably ain't even really a thing.
But it was, she was like, she was like, yeah, everyone's mad that Chadwick Buzzman didn't win.
and I was like, because here's how I interpret that.
Here's what I think happened.
Amber heard some people saying this phrase.
I bet you there's a bunch of people pissed off that Chadwick Boseman didn't win.
You know what I mean?
Like no one actually said anything, but it was just like, I bet they're blah, blah, blah,
because he's black because he's black and he's dead and he's a dead black guy.
You know what happened.
People said some stuff, but it ain't quite as simple as he didn't win.
Here's what went down.
So I guess they did it very different this year.
They did them last.
well they did for first of all
they instead of doing best film last they did actress and actor last
actor was very last
they put him in the
I hate this word
memoriam in memoriam
they put him in that
heavily he had part of their
gift bag thing was an NFT
which is a little weird anyway non fungible token
are you guys aware generally of what this is
I don't think I've ever heard of that
generally I'm aware that it's a thing
I know that it is, it's digital art, but that's about as far as I know.
Like to me, this definitely falls in the Bitcoin Dogecoin thing where I'm like, I definitely
know it's a big thing.
I definitely know it's huge, but like I don't fucking know shit about it.
So it's an attempt to create something kind of.
So think about the Mona Lisa.
Copies of the Mona Lisa are worth something.
People will pay $30 for a poster or more for a good replica.
But the Mona Lisa itself is non-fund.
Meaning you cannot recreate this.
Right.
It is the digital age's attempt at that.
Wutang clan didn't invent it, but they're the first people I heard of doing anything like this.
They made that album that only were Screlly owned.
Yeah.
The idea is if we can prevent people from copying it, it becomes non-fungible.
How can you do that, though?
Well, when their case...
I'm not even a little bit following this.
I'm not going to lie.
I think I'm too dumb for this.
When you compared it to...
As soon as you compared it to crypto, immediately I was like, if that's an accurate analogy,
I'm not going to understand any of this.
And so far, it's in that world.
It's not really like crypto.
And by the way, I own crypto and I have no fucking idea what it does.
Right.
Well, it's in that world.
And I think the only other way it's the only really way it compares to crypto is the attempt to make it secure.
They use crypto technology.
It's a little gimmicky, but the idea is to create something that's one of the kind and cannot be copied, which is getting harder in order to do in the digital age.
So that's where they gave out multiple copies of this non-com.
copyable thing.
Well, non-fungible can also mean there's a limited number, right?
Like, this is one of a series.
But what is it?
Like a hologram?
This particular one happens to be a digital painting tap 3D image hologram with him.
I mean, that's pretty rad.
I didn't know we were doing that yet.
Yeah.
Right.
So.
Like little holograms.
I mean, I don't.
Okay.
I don't be one of them.
I'm bad.
I'm bad at, like, I know what an NFT is because I've been reading about it.
I'm bad with words.
I don't want you to think you hit a button
and fucking Black Panther can talk to you on the desktop.
Me too.
I don't think that's okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't like the word fungible.
Can we get that out of the air?
I don't like it sounds like fungus too much.
I don't like I don't enjoy it.
Like non-fungible token sounds like a cream.
I'm not, I don't like that.
I agree with you.
I don't like what it sounds either.
But anyway.
Well, it didn't hit for a lot of people that they sort of in their mind
cynically or callously used.
his death to promote the show, build it.
There was a lot of press about all of this stuff.
They put it at the end.
And then Stephen Spielberg directed it.
That's another thing that was different this year.
The whole night was directed, quote unquote, like a movie.
They didn't cut away to any clips.
They had pre-scripted things.
It was weird.
I didn't watch it.
I heard it was.
Somebody.
That much.
Yeah, somebody described it as like, like, it felt very much.
like just the industry awards.
Like, it was like set up to not hit for anybody else.
Like, it was just very matter of fact.
And they've always jerked themselves off.
No, for sure.
That's what I was going to say to you.
Like when you go,
I'm surprised they even had it.
I'm like, dude,
I don't give what.
I'm not.
I mean,
I kind of couch that with,
yeah.
They're never missing their opportunity.
But then I was always like,
there's no way they're canceling.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But apparently,
but from what I hear,
it was like they took away a lot of the glitz and glamour and the theatrics of it.
And it was just like, you know,
the here's who won,
who blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, well, I mean, that is what a lot of the right wing
motherfuckers have been asking for for a long time.
It's like, just get to the shit.
Quit laying your politics in, you know?
Well, I guess they had these things.
I think it was Reese Weatherspoon and Laura Dern.
They would cut to them and they would either read.
Laura Derns, I think, was a love letter to whoever they were talking about
at that particular moment.
And Reese Witherspoon, what I read it was described as your book like,
I'm forgetting the word, you know,
most likely to this, most likely to that, what are those called?
Superlatives.
Superlatives.
So the point is, the whole night built to this climax.
It was teased.
It was foreshadows.
So you just think he's going to win.
It's time for them to crown bozeman, the fucking Black Panther King,
and we'll all move on with our lives.
And they did not.
Anthony Hopkins won, right?
No, I thought, oh, wait, I thought Daniel, so Kalua won supporting actor?
Yeah, that was supporting.
that's weird i'm assuming that's for black judas or whatever which i saw that movie i thought he was the
100% the lead of that he was nominated for supporting actor no yeah i'm pretty sure i haven't seen
the movie but my understanding is he he does play fred hampton he's literally on the poster i think
i've seen the movie he's like one of the two leads there's lekeith the other it's called black
black black judas and the black messiah yeah judas and he's the black messiah and he's the black messiah
And McKee plays Judas?
Who?
McKee Stanfield?
Yeah, yeah.
My understanding is from reading people be annoyed that he didn't get nominated,
is that he would have been considered the lead or whatever.
Yeah, that's weird to me.
I read that Kaluah won, and I just, oh, Kalua won best actor.
I didn't realize that he was nominated for Best Supporting.
Like I said, I haven't read any of it.
So Anthony Hopkins won?
Yeah.
Was it for the whole shit?
Was not there.
Was in Wales.
It was in Wales and a Hawaiian shirt.
He played an old man.
What did you say?
Was it the Pope?
No, the Pope's last year.
I know the father.
I think it's called the Father.
He played a man with dementia.
I'm sure.
By the way,
crushed it.
By the way, here's a thing.
Nobody's mad about that.
Yeah, I care.
Nobody's mad about that.
Everybody is saying that either you didn't know he was going to win.
So why did you do this?
Like, why build this whole thing up to it,
use his image,
use his death to cynically promote it, blah, blah, and I'm not saying they should be mad.
I'm just telling you why they're mad.
Or you did know, and then it's obviously fucked up.
Well, okay, here's my thing is if I can put myself in a situation where no one knew and
I mean, that's what I believe.
I know.
That's what they claim.
They claim that.
And they've seen people, and we've seen people fuck up before because they like didn't
expect a thing.
And they pay price waterhouse a fuck ton of money to keep it to at least pretend to keep it.
I believe that they didn't know.
And this year, honestly, it seems like it would have been an easier to keep it a secret just with how lockdown and shit is work.
But like if it's truly, to me, it's like, okay, so if they don't know who's going to win,
so there's no need to celebrate the life of Chadwick Boseman.
Because to me, it's like, look, man, Chadwick Boseman was a, had, it's so sad.
It breaks my heart to even talk about it still.
Like, he had the whole world in front of him, Marvel superhero, insane career cut short.
Like, it's like, what are you going to do?
not celebrate that guy.
And then I'm, okay, he doesn't win.
But to me, that kind of makes it, well, they didn't rig it.
Because if they were, like, if they were going to rig it,
they definitely would have had that motherfucker win.
You know what I mean with all that?
I don't even know.
What?
What was he nominated for?
Five, the five bloods.
Oh, no, it's called Ma Rainy's.
That was his last one.
Black Bottom.
Something bottom.
Black bottom.
I haven't watched that.
I haven't seen it either.
To say soggy bottom.
And I was like, no, that was a redneck move.
Yeah, oh, Brother Rortel.
I haven't seen it either.
I'm sure he's good, but, like, there's never going to be a time where I'm like,
I bet Anthony Hopkins didn't deserve the Oscar.
And to be fair, I don't think anybody's necessarily saying that.
Yeah, I'm sure they're not.
And I'm not saying I agree with them.
I'm telling you why I think they're mad is.
If you didn't know, don't, I guess, capitalize on his death.
Here's the thing about that.
Hollywood is always going to capitalize.
It kind of reminds me of when Sturgle Simpson got really mad at the CMAs
for dedicating all the things to wait.
when he died when they had during the prime of his career shit on him, said he wasn't real country.
And it's like, well, A, a lot of those people died, which I know that ain't necessarily the case then,
but B, like, that's what they do.
Right.
You know, I mean, I kind of agree with court.
I know I can recognize how it is, like cynical.
And I'm sure a lot of people don't actually give a fuck about Chadwick Boseman who were in charge of that decision and everything.
Of course.
Like you're doing it because that's what you got to do.
I'm sure that's all true.
But like Corey said, I mean, I feel like it would be more fucked up if they didn't.
Right.
you know, honor him somewhere and another.
And also, dude.
Definitely a huge, that type of thing don't happen often.
And no, I never had to do something to.
I never want to defend.
I would never defend an industry over something like heinous and horrible or anything.
Or, or just try to defend the industry over one human being.
However, in a situation like this, it's like, yeah, I mean, y'all get the, the academy gets to use, promote Chadwick Bozeman stuff.
because frankly, the reason that we all were saddened about him is because the industry made him be Black Panther.
I mean, I know that he worked hard to get there and all that stuff.
But like, dude, you know, at a certain point, like the industry is like, yeah, look, we, you know, he was ours for a minute.
And then he died.
And so I think that we get one last hurrah fucking using him to our advantage.
Like, that's just the reason we know Chadwick Boseman is because of that fucking industry.
So it's not that fucked up to me because it's a very look at me, look at me, business that we're in.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, it's what they do.
So I think it's like being mad at the rain for being wet.
Exactly.
I still think it's, I guess, fucked up.
Sure.
Industry.
I guess it to me, I'm not mad, by the way.
I get what happened.
It was a weird risk to take to say, if you don't know, you know, if you're running that show and you have no idea who's going to win to move it for that climax and no one in the room, not one person to go, isn't it going to be a bit awkward?
Right.
I mean, but see, that's, that hits for me.
I love it when a movie ends in a different way than I thought it was going to,
because then you get to be truly surprised.
You know what I mean?
Like, when you think the fucking soldier's about to pull it out,
then he gets his fucking head.
Like, dude, the departed when Leo gets shot, fucking holy shit.
Sorry, spoilers for nobody that's seen that great movie,
but like, that movie wouldn't have hit near his heart if he'd have lived.
You know what I mean?
I love shit like that.
I love this word.
I'm a white bulger.
Isn't it based on real life?
No, that was, well.
That's the town.
And that, no, that's black, black, uh, black mass, black mass.
Yeah.
The town is very much fake.
Just keep throwing Boston movies out.
Now, now Frank Costello, like, like, Jack Nicholson's character is loosely based on a real person named Frank Costello who was in the Wadi Boulger world.
But like, it's all, you know, it's all bullshit.
But, but, but yeah.
It's based on a Hong Kong movie.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Yeah.
I guess no, and it's, the census just came out, so I'm certain this is new now or different now.
When I was in Boston, there would be, I think, 4 million people in the city at any given time.
Jesus.
Industry and tourists, but the population was actually, like, only 600,000.
Word.
So, like, if you count...
No wonder they're so mad.
If you just count living there, like, it's not that big of a city, but it operates like a huge city because of commuters and tourists.
Jesus.
I'd be fucking furious all the time.
that's probably true a version that's probably true for most of the like i bet that's true for
chicago too right and it's probably true for like especially the manhattan part specifically of
new york it's got to be but the baseline is bigger with chicago with manhattan new york city
counts queens and brooklyn anyway so it's hard so that changes it yeah uh this is a bit of a
minefield but since we're kind of on the subject i've thought about bringing it up on on podcast before
it is a bit of a minefield,
but we're talking about the Oscars right now.
Them new rules they put into place.
Y'all remember that?
It was a big thing when it happened,
but then it hadn't been talked about in a while.
I just,
but they institutes new rules this past year
that go into effect.
Like in Hollywood?
For the Oscars specifically.
Oh, yeah,
you're not allowed to,
you can't,
I think it was sexually assault,
your secretary anymore.
Yeah,
yeah.
Or if you're in a movie that hits,
you can't be white and stuff.
Right.
I'm joking, but I'm talking about that latter part.
Do you know what I'm talking?
I kind of vaguely.
So now that you have to meet these,
if you want to submit your film for,
I think, any Academy Awards,
you have to meet the Academy Inclusion standards, right?
They have four different standards,
and your film must meet at least two of the four.
And in the four different standards,
there are substandards and you have to meet like, you know,
at least one of the three or two of the four or whatever.
So it's like there's a lot of different ways to do it,
which is why I actually think it's not that big of a deal
because there are a lot of different ways to meet them.
But I just want like, and yeah, before I'm getting this,
yes, I think all three of us,
I'm admitting a massive personal bias with this,
what I'm about to say.
But like I'm saying hypothetically if the three of us were making a movie
and it was an Oscar-bait movie,
and it was about like,
the horrors or the evils of fucking racism, you know, in like a town like where we grew up or something,
like a real heavy drama about being raised by a racist-ass daddy or something, whatever,
something all tear jerky and Oscar baby like that, but it's about hillbillies,
but has a real positive anti-racist message, right?
Which is the type of shit that, of course, we try to do, you know, then that's going to be a real white movie.
Super white movie, yeah.
But it's also going to be super woke, you know.
It's going to have a woke point, but it's going to be white as hell.
There's no way around it.
Like, that's just you're going to have to do that.
Or hypothetically, you're making a movie about, let's say, Henry the 8th's reign.
Like, or that, yeah.
Yeah, like, even if it wasn't the thing you're talking about.
I'm sure you've noticed too.
They started doing this thing now.
And I mean, not hell, I'm fine with it.
Where they're just like, whatever, some of them were black.
Yeah.
I mean, they do that.
And I'm not just talking about like Bridgetton.
which is super heightened and not realistic.
I've seen,
there's been multiple different things
I've seen recently
where they'll just cast a black dude
as some 18th century Duke
and they don't ever acknowledge the fact that he's a black
Duke is just like this Duke is a black guy
and they just...
Yeah, I mean, I'm for it too.
To me it's like, right, because to me it's like,
well, if you're gonna, you know,
that's what you pretty much gonna have to do.
You literally have to.
You get them into productions like that.
Also, who gives the fuck about the 1800s?
Right, right.
It wouldn't like that.
I'm fine with that.
I mean, yeah, of course it wasn't,
of course it wasn't like that.
but like, dude, it's, it is fucked up.
Like, if you're a black actor and you're just like,
goddamn, anytime I go in for a casting call,
the movie, if the movie's before this age,
I know I'm playing a fucking slave.
You know what I mean?
Like, every time.
And I'm not even trying to make a joke right now,
but like, like, that's just,
it's either like, we got to be super historically accurate
on that front or we're just like,
look, man, I don't know what to fucking tell you.
Like, well, I'm at the movie.
All right.
I kind of think if you're making a fun thing,
like a fun escapist type of, like something,
like Bridgerton or like there's this new Sherlock Holmes adjacent show on Netflix called
the Irregulars.
It's like young adulty murder mystery type shit.
And they have in that is a lot of what we're talking about, black docks and stuff.
They do that in Dickinson.
Andy's been watching Dickinson and it's about Emily Dickinson, but they use contemporary
language.
And it's like a lesbian love story deep down, but it's about her life.
And there's just like an Asian guy who's among the landed gentry in her town.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
That ain't.
You know what we'd have to do?
What I was about to say is I think, and I mean, to me, it's like if you're going to make something fun, you know, like that's what you're going for, then fuck it.
Do all that.
Right, right.
Doesn't matter.
But like, but if you're doing the fucking Oscar baity head up its own ass, super pretentious, like real heavy, dramatic version of this, like, I do think that complicates it a little bit.
It does.
Because you're going to try to, you're going to try to portray everything as accurately as possible.
and you're going to have people watch it be like, wait a minute, you mean to tell me.
It's kind of like, so I do think it's like a creative choice you have to make, but it, you know,
that's fine.
It's kind of like the conversation that we've had a bunch about like Django, where you're like,
yeah, you're right.
Quentin Tarantino throws that word around a lot in Django, but like, what the fuck do you
think Don Johnson's character would call them?
You know what I mean?
Like, either we're doing this or we ain't doing this.
Like, I don't know what, like honestly, in my opinion, a straight white.
man, it would be more rude to act like they wasn't saying that shit.
Like, that'd be fucked up.
The first time, when that Shane Gillis, I don't know if we ever got into this,
but when that Shane Gillis controversy popped,
so for anybody who don't know, he said,
are people familiar with the C word when it comes to Asians,
or do I have to say it?
I think people can figure out what that is.
I don't even, oh, yeah, oh, never mind.
Sorry.
I was like, I was like, you just call Asian cunts.
Like, why would you do that?
It looks like we're talking about a set of armor.
Right.
It's got a weakness in it.
Yeah.
They might have a chink in its armor right there, right, where, which would be a fundamental
point of weakness.
But that word is also used in other ways that don't.
Right.
Right.
He said it like nine times.
It was completely indefensible in my opinion because there was no punchline, except for the
first time.
The first time he said it, and when I was listening to it, I was like, oh, this is what
it's about.
The first time he said it, he was talking about Chinatown coming to fruition in history.
Yeah.
And he said something along the lines of, you know, and this guy.
the he's now being the white politician was like i don't know send those fucking that word
downtown and at first i'm listening to it and i'm like well maybe he ought not done that but what
the fuck was he supposed to say that guy said that guy right right said that now again then he said
it six more times look that's shame but my point is yeah if you're going to talk about how
somebody speaks in those times or whatever you got to i think if you're being serious you got to
create that realistically. I wanted to say in response to your question, Trey, I don't want to play
devil's advocate. I don't want to like my genuine reaction. I have a different relationship to this
stuff I think than you guys. My genuine only dream is to be a stand-up comic who sells enough tickets
to and then like if y'all get what y'all want, y'all will let me play the asshole. That's all I want.
And so that being all I want, I think that that has to be said before I say what I'm about to say,
which is I just don't care. But here's why.
I think I can defend that.
If you want to make Oscar Bady movies,
I think you've got to follow the Oscars rules
and not get too precious about the Oscars rules.
The Oscars don't decide who gets to make art.
Right.
They just get to decide who wins that award.
Their award, right.
I agree with that.
It's a pretentious head-up-the-ass award,
and it's ran by people who are either liberal
or pretend to be liberal.
So they're going to make these,
they're trying to navigate what they really are,
which is a bunch of fucking money-hungry status chasers
who want people.
like Brad Pitt to like them.
That's who they really are as an organization.
They're trying to balance that with who they want to pretend they are,
which is some noble, artistic, whatever, whatever, which requires, I mean, look,
we're trying to make the world better.
Hollywood ain't been fair.
It ain't been cool forever.
I mean, it never has.
So, I'm asking you this.
And again, I know it's all very sensitive.
Like I said, first of all, there's a bunch of standards and substanders.
you don't have to hit them all.
There are multiple ways you could do it and you could figure it out.
And so it's not that restrictive.
And I'm acknowledging that.
But let me bring up one of them.
This is,
so standard A is the on-screen representation.
Substandard A1 is at least one of the lead actors has to be from an underrepresented
racial or ethnic group.
Substandard two is at least 30% of all the actors in the entire thing have to be from
at least two of the following underrepresented groups, right?
And then, or number three, and you only have to hit one of these,
the main storyline, and this is one I want to ask you about,
substandard A3,
the main storyline theme or narrative of the film
is centered on an underrepresented group.
Here are the examples they give.
Women, racial or ethnic groups, LGBTQ plus,
people with cognitive or physical disabilities
or who are deaf or hard of hearing.
Now, my question for you is,
why are poor people not included in that?
If it's literally about the drug poverty.
Right.
How is that not a thing?
Why aren't poor people part of that?
I don't understand.
Well, for the,
I don't know because you're talking about poor white people,
trace.
Like,
yeah,
sure I am.
But like poor people,
poor people are disadvantaged and underrepresented.
Why aren't they on this list?
I guess you make an argument they're not underrepresented in Hollywood
because they love,
love to fucking stereotype.
But you're right.
You could probably also make an argument that Appalachians and ethnicity at this point.
But,
But as I understand that word, I may be way off.
I agree with you.
I agree with you too.
And I genuinely look at this as a situation of like, look, like, and I also agree with what Drew said.
And I think both those work together where it's like, hey, the Oscar's not telling me I can't, that I, that my movie has to be this or my show has to be.
They're just saying if you want, if you want to win our shit, it has to be.
And I mean, dude, like, that's free market bullshit.
I'm for it, whatever.
I do think.
And this is how I feel about so.
many things that we get, not we like us, but like the society at large tends to get like
wound up about us. I'm like, dude, we're in a moment of like total over correct correction.
And like for for good reason. Like Hollywood has been so fucking white for a long time. And as you know
with how overcorrections and political correctness stuff works, it's like, look, man,
if the car's going off a bridge, you don't, you fucking yank the wheel. Like we all, everyone does
that you yank the fucking will and eventually
we'll get it back and we'll be like
okay we can all like we can make
the fucking southern white racist
as bad movie and yeah there's only going to be
here's what we got to do Trey if we're going to make the movie
about somebody being born
with a racist dad
you just have a scene where he gets his
fucking ass whip by a bunch of black dudes
in the gas station yeah and give him all
speaking parts that way they get in the fucking guild
exactly 30% of the people
that appear in this movie
there's 15 in the black dudes at the gas station
Yeah, it's a scene where 15, you can figure it out.
It's a scene where 15 black dudes beat the shit out of this one guy and call him a cracker.
And then everybody's like, I mean, maybe I get why he's racist a little bit.
And then we flip it and then it'll be fine.
But here's what's fucked up is people will do that.
What this is an attempt to do is not to, in my opinion, change a movie, any given movie.
It's to change an industry.
Right.
in which there are these large systemic overreaching problems.
This policy, I don't think will change that.
It definitely won't overnight.
I see it as an attempt.
I hope a decent-hearted one.
You know what I mean?
I hope this is an honest attempt to help change those things.
If one movie came along that was about a specific slice of life
where recreating that slice of life correctly made that borderline,
if not totally impossible.
I would say,
do you want to make your movie
to win an Oscar?
Do you want to make your movie
because this is a great movie?
You make that movie,
and it's a great movie,
and all that stuff you're talking about
pops up and your,
you know,
your fucking shark agent
and your shark production company
and MGM or whoever it is
gave you that pile of money to make it.
Don't bring that up.
Don't put you on fucking TV
to talk about that
and to talk about poor people
and get, you know,
probably get yelled at
by one or two black people and then maybe one or two black people be like,
no, I kind of get it.
You know, blah, blah, blah.
Creating buzz, selling tickets.
I mean, that's all this industry gives a fuck about.
This correction in my mind is just a reaction to pressure because that's all they care about
is money, in my opinion.
Maybe I'm too cynical.
No, I don't think you're too cynical.
I think that's correct.
And I will say, Corey, I don't think in this regard, this is an overcorrection as much
is it's a weird specific band-aid that ain't going to, in my opinion, fix most of the problems
and then might, as Trey is saying, create a new one.
Yeah, also, speaking of corrections, I needed to correct myself earlier.
I said I thought that was for any kind of eligibility.
That's actually just for best picture.
So there's a ton of caveats to why it's really not that big of a deal, which I acknowledge.
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Brian Kinnison sounds like he had a, he played football.
but at a time when the position he played don't exist anymore.
Yeah.
Like he was a wingback.
Yeah.
Brian, actually, y'all just, you all just missed meeting Brian because he was the,
he worked at the comedy caravan back in the day, like when y'all had just kind of
started comedy, and he was just super into wrestling.
And now he's one of the announcers at OVW in Louisville and he's doing really cool stuff.
And he just started a wrestling apparel company.
So y'all would love Brian.
We've gotten really drunk in Louisville together.
So this is not a novel.
thing. When people make fun of wrestling, I feel like this is one of the, this is like a hack premise, but I wanted to talk about it a little more sincerely and get your, uh, your take on it, Joe. And that's the like sort of, you know, old boys fucking love wrestling, right? Love wrestling. But the hack premise always gets pointed out is like, if you're removing yourself from it, take a few steps back and being kind of objective about it, it's, you know, a little bit homo erotic. Yeah. And old boys,
you know, stereotypically, not into homoerotic things.
Like, don't hit for them.
Stereotypically, big thing.
And then, and so the squaring of those together.
Now, of course, you know, me, I love homoerotic stuff.
Me too.
I wish they were naked when they were wrestling.
Yeah, right.
And they used to be.
Rassling's always, I'm sure the Greek version of old boys, they loved wrestling back
then.
And they used to be butt-ass naked.
Oh, yeah.
You might accidentally catch a butt fuck.
Yeah.
Who knows?
It's just a little bonus back in the day.
I think homoerotic is my best erotic.
Like, I can, like, when I was,
in college, me and my, me and my buddies, some of them been in the military and then the rest of us
were just idiots. We used to fucking wrestle at parties all the time. You know what I mean?
I wrestled Ben Thompson naked one time. I know, right. Yes. I was on math.
Australia boys, the boys I was Australia with, we used to hump each other. Yeah.
Vigorously for long amounts of time. That was the joke. It's not funny until you do it for two
minutes in front of your new girlfriend. We literally ran two girlfriends off. Well, we used to do that
too, yeah, for sure.
Gay chicken.
Yeah, right.
But the wrestling was a huge hit and the most redneck of the
salina boys around would be like,
boys are some best goddamn wrestling.
And it wasn't.
It was like, me and my cousin,
two pieces of shit named tray rolling around in a yard,
but it was hitting for people because people were like wrestling, right?
But like, I don't know.
What do you think about that, Cho?
Like, is it a thing?
Does it ever even cry?
Is it just an immediate minimum?
obstacle that they get over right right out the gate and if you brought that up they would get
defensive about it but like no it ain't no like fuck you know it ain't or like i don't know well tell me
about it well this is going to i don't know if it'll surprise you that much but it will probably
surprise a lot of people hell it surprised me really because like i was a huge fan of wrestling when i was
a kid got out of it just a little bit because here here's how i will describe wrestling fandom to people
who don't understand it.
It sort of has a similar arc as your Santa Claus, believing in Santa Claus.
And let me explain.
When you're a kid, you believe it.
And therefore, it's awesome.
And then one day you get told that it's not real.
And you're like, man, what the fuck?
And then you go through a period where you're like, fuck that shit.
And then you get older and you realize, and you, like now Santa hits for me even harder than it is as a kid as a kind of.
concept because I'm like, oh, man, like, it's actually cooler that somebody came up with that instead of it being real.
And I feel the same way about wrestling.
Like, as a performer, I like wrestling almost more than I did as a kid because I'm like,
holy shit.
Did you see that move, that guy pulled?
When I was a kid, I was like, they're Superman.
Of course they can do a backflip onto a goddamn table.
But now I'm like, holy fuck.
I can't believe they did that.
So it's kind of similar.
But also, now that I'm older, the people who are still wrestling fans and are older are actually a pretty
a pretty liberal group of folk, like sincerely.
I know that there's still like my uncles out there.
But like a lot of wrestling as a subculture really has a lot of people pushing for progress in the LGBTQ,
LGBTQ community.
So clearly they don't mind the fucking humping and stuff like that.
I feel like people who like, dude,
I've been at wrestling events where there was a transgender wrestler and an old boy,
like thought he was about to be cool and like,
talk some shit and that motherfucker got talked out.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, that motherfucker got made aware very,
by some people who sounded a lot like it was like,
hey boy, that ain't cool.
I ain't how we do it here.
We're trying to watch a goddamn show.
And they got talked out the fucking building.
So like, I don't know, man.
You would think that.
But at the same time, look what gold dust really hit for a lot of my friends and
like the parents and like, there were some people that were like,
you don't need to watch that queer, I guess.
I'm glad you.
Yeah, there was plenty of knowledge it because I, yeah,
This has come up before, and dude, I've never, I never had a problem with gold dust, but like he, that wasn't the case in Salina.
Yeah, you're right.
People were weirded out by him, you know, for obvious reasons.
You know what?
Now that you say that, that's, of course, that's the case because that's 100% why I liked gold dust.
Because it's the same, I like gold dust, the same reason that I like Dennis Rodman because people around here were like, no, anyone but them, anyone but them.
And I was like, well, then they hit for me the hardest because you all like him.
Yeah, right.
So I got to actually talk to Dustin Rhodes, who is Gold Dust.
He did my wrestling podcast, which is a, it's through a paywall.
It's a whole thing.
Rebels Happy Hour, but I hosted every other week.
And he came on and I was just straight up telling him, like, the reason I liked Gold Dust.
Now it all makes sense.
It's probably the same reason that I liked Jeff Gordon.
Because everybody around here was like, Jeff Gordon's gay.
And I was like, all right, well, I like him.
But it wasn't, please.
Rodman.
Please don't think that means I was, I wasn't,
I wasn't woke as a nine year old.
I was just rebellious.
And around here, and that's really what being woke,
when you're a kid around here,
if you're rebellious,
you'll fuck around and accidentally be woke.
Because you're just trying to rebel against the norm where you live.
And the norm where we lived then was like,
yeah.
So like that's like I fucked.
well, like Drew said this meantime,
like contrarianism was my gateway into wholeness.
The gateway drug.
Mm-hmm.
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Is it homoerotic naturally or did gold dust?
What am I trying to say?
I don't know, man.
They're grabbing each other a lot.
The like the hat joke is always like it's a bunch of, you know,
boiled up.
Half naked, oiled up.
Who go to the tanen bed.
Touching each other.
That's how you frame it if you're trying to make a sound homoerotic again.
But they're trying to whip each other's ass.
Right, exactly.
So I was going to say, imagine a scenario where it's like a bunch of old boys,
like old boy uncle types in like a gym.
No, not a gym.
Just some random place that provides no context, a field.
Right.
And all of a sudden, two beefy, very tan.
Right.
And in Speedos who are greased up to the nines appear and just sort of look at each other.
Yeah.
I think that the old boy.
is going to be like, uh-oh.
Which way is this about to go?
Right.
No, I agree.
If they then slap each other on the shoulders and start grappling,
they're going to be like, hell yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, no, you're right because like, they look at that and they're like,
they're like, there's nothing sexual about it, God damn it.
They're mowers his ass.
They're whooping his ass.
But like, but here's the deal.
Make it be two hot women doing the exact same thing, same stuff.
And that's immediately sexual to these guys are, hell yeah, right?
Like these girls, like, yeah, these girls.
Like mud wrestling or whatever.
Yeah, but it's like, do put two dudes into mud.
You know what I mean?
Like you wouldn't.
Like what I was going to say, Trey, in response to your first question,
which is, do they have to get over it?
I know.
I'm wondering.
Right.
Or if it don't occur to them.
I think it don't occur to them.
And I think the making things homoerotic, if they don't like it is the way around.
Is the construct.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the idea that two men just having their.
shirt off and being in oil is gay. Yeah. It's something that they created a long time ago.
And that's kind of proof of how flimsy and bullshit it is. Right. That they don't even think of it.
Yeah. It's like that Ron White joke when he was his buddy was talking about how he's like,
I don't have a gay gay bone in my body. And by the way he goes, okay, well, you watch porn. He goes,
yeah, hell yeah, I watch girl on girl. He goes, no, hell, I like watch a man and a woman make love.
He goes, all right, do you like the guy to have a small flaccid penis? He goes, no, I like a huge hard
fraud and oh shit you know but like yeah I don't think it occurs to them like I don't think it
of curse them at all but like I would put it I would like to put it out there that like
contrary to popular belief I and especially nowadays I think the wrestling crowd at large is
becoming a lot is a lot more woke than you would think like there's definitely still dude
there's definitely fucking still a bunch of idiots like the guy that I talked about but I'm telling
you man like dude that was not only not only at a wrestling event that was at fucking
GCW, which is like some goddamn extreme lunatic wrestling, a GCW show in Chicago.
And it was me, a bunch of my boys were there, fucking Jerry, Jerry Lawler was wrestling.
I wore Jerry Law, he don't know this, and I'll probably get in trouble.
I wore Jerry the King Lawler's crown while he fucking put this motherfucker through a table.
It was great.
So my point is like, Jerry the King Lawler's there, fucking gang grails there, like a bunch
of old school motherfuckers.
And like, but the people weren't having it.
When this dude was talking shit about the transgender performer,
pretty much unanimously.
Everybody going on his ass and the whole fucking crowd
clapped when he left. You know what I mean? And it was
a bunch of white dudes in there who were just
like, no, fuck that. We don't play that.
I'm telling you, man. It's getting there.
I mean, I'm believing. I can't have wrestling no more.
Ruined by God everything the queers
have. Two men can't roll
around in a rink and not bring politics
into it. I swear to God.
But you know, like one of the greatest minds in the
business that we just lost earlier
this year, Paterson, was
a gay guy. Now, granted, he
behind the scenes and it was one of those like they always talk about him like you would have
never known pat was gay which is kind of a offensive thing to say in a way because it's kind of saying
like you nothing same wrong with him right you were talking about wrestling fans a minute ago
now if you want to get into wrestlers you know who fucking that's lunatics it's it's performers they're all
nuts yeah that's the thing like if you really if you really think about wrestling like there's
honestly not much more pageantry in entertainment more
script like it's very much like a lay it's like a it's like a surf it's like soap opera and
cirque to solace together dude drew's drew said before and this is true because like like as drew
said it's like modern day shakespeare because a lot of people don't understand that shakespeare was
like working class theater you know like it's now it's now super like oh yeah if you like
shakespeare you must be like fucking patrick stewers sitting there but like no back then that was for
working class people and like dirty jokes and shit and absolutely it's considered low class
because it was like, you know,
a kind of romance novel.
For sure, for sure.
Wrestling.
When Elizabeth fucking kissed Hulk Hogan,
son, I threw a pillow at the TV.
I'm saying.
My brother, I ain't ever been that mad.
But when wrestling's a romance story.
I think wrestling is just like any other medium.
When it's good,
great wrestling is great anything.
Great rap is great.
It's just that like some people aren't into that.
And it's like the people who judge wrestling,
it's like, right, you're not a wrestling fan.
why would you have anything good to say about it?
Like, I don't fucking like
teenage vampire movies, but I don't really say shit about them
because I don't fucking like them.
Just to be clear, I never meant to.
No, I know you aren't.
I know you weren't for me.
I wasn't trying to make it.
I know you weren't, though.
Okay.
On that note, one thing I think every adult,
like at some point, if you haven't learned this lesson,
you clearly need to get over yourself,
anything that there's like a subculture
or a culture that kind of builds up around,
there's something to it.
There's something to it.
It might not be for you, but you can't shit on something that gets that popular with that many people.
Even if you despise it, let's take a perfect example for our listeners, Donald Trump.
Right.
I despise that mother fucking.
But you can't say there's nothing there.
No longer deny that there's not some skill or whatever, you know, whatever word.
Right.
It even hurts me to say it.
I'll admit that it hurts me to say it.
No, for sure.
But my point is you have to acknowledge humans reacting positively to things people are doing.
Well, I mean, that's what I say about a lot of things.
I mean, usually it's defending stuff I'm into.
but like in some scenarios it's like yeah man sometimes 50 million Elvis fans truly can't be wrong
like it's just how like some things are undeniable I feel that way about Jimmy Buffett you know
like I know and let me say about you y'all acknowledge that about that's the thing is hate
and that sucks in and it's hate that he is good at I'm sorry who Trump is good at hate oh for sure
for sure for you all acknowledge this exact same thing about um radio radio country pop country I I
I guess I have to.
Kind of had right to not be hypocritical.
My thing is that it's just called the Radio Country all day.
But the other day I heard Burke Crasher on a podcast going through this exact thought process in his mind that y'all just outlined about radio country where he was talking about he don't like it and don't hit for him.
But he was like as part of a job he had, he went to this huge arena show as part of the CMAs in Nashville or whatever.
And he was just talking about the insane amount of people who were so into it.
And he said he started feeling like an asshole because he was like, well, fuck, man.
If this many people are into it, there's got to be something to it.
It's just not for me.
Yeah.
Literally all the stuff y'all are just saying.
I'm listed to it and I'm like, man, I know I can't argue with what he's saying.
No, I agree with that.
I feel the same way about so many things.
But, Lord, I just hate that shit.
To be fair to us, I think it's a lot of different.
And bear with me here and I'm not trying to shit on Burke because I know what he's saying and he's right.
And there is something to it.
I don't think we've ever argued that there's nothing to it.
We've argued that they took something that we love.
They ran a bunch of fucking, what do they call them?
crowd surveys.
They did their PR, not PR.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, like focus groups and shit.
Yeah, and they funneled it down to this horseshit.
I never doubted that fucking Blake Shilton can carry a goddamn tune.
He's the most charming motherfucker I've ever seen in my life.
I know all that.
He's from that in-between time, too.
Sure, but you know, you understand what I'm saying.
I don't know the new one's names, but I know they're talented people.
I've never denied that.
Here's actually a direct quote from you that says all from you, because I use this all the time.
I'm like, it's what Drew said, and this is the thing that makes the most sense to me, is like, look, I don't have a problem with it except for I don't like that they call it country. And you said if they called it, if they would just call it rural pop, we could all fucking move on with our lives. Like, because the reason that we hate it is because we love telling people we love country music. Yeah. But we hate it when they go, they hate, right. So if that never had to be, if they were like, there's country music and there's rural pop, just like there's hip hop and there's gangster rap. Like we have these.
two fucking separators, then I'd be fucking fine with it.
Well, and I don't want to get you in a weird position, Corey, with all your various interests
and business interests, and I don't know, this will make sense in a minute.
I feel like AEW almost exists because a lot of people in that world were going,
this new WCW shit's watered down.
In other words, they were fans of wrestling and they didn't like where the popular version
of it was going.
So I think, Trey, we are that.
We are people going, no, I fucking love country music more than anybody.
And I'm so happy that these people have found Brantley Gilbert.
Good for them.
You and Brantley go fuck off somewhere.
As long as y'all are there, you ain't beating up black people or whatever.
But I'm AEW or GCW or whatever.
You know what I mean?
And so I think, I don't think I'm an asshole for hating Brantley Gilbert.
I don't want him to not exist.
I just wish that he'd stop being on CMT.
But that's CMT's problem, not Brantley Gilbert's.
Like, well, fuck Brantley Gilbert.
I know, but I'm saying like, well, is he done something like actually bad?
Like, is he, but that's my thing is like, because I'm with you, like, because I'm, I'm the, dude, somebody even, like quoted me on it like three, three days ago on Twitter.
We're like, I try, I can't see how many times on through the screen door, Coon will be shitting on something.
And I'm like, man, I really am trying to be more positive.
lately and I have to put myself in a place of when somebody says, what do you think about
this?
Instead of going, this fucking sucks, I have to think about it for a minute and go, does this
suck or is it just not for me?
You know, and I try to.
So like, yeah, it would be, if I'm going to live my whole life like that, I have to
include fucking pop country music.
It makes me soaks.
But it doesn't, but it doesn't suck as like, those people are incredible musicians.
Those same musicians are making the albums I love.
Right.
Right.
The industry sucks.
Right.
That's what I mean.
But like, but like,
but in that world,
there's no denying that Florida Georgia line is real fucking good at that.
Like that,
like I'm not,
okay,
okay,
I'm not fucking into,
uh,
uh,
EDM.
I'm not in,
I mean,
well,
I'm,
okay,
that's not true.
I used to not be in,
it's a hitch for you.
Yeah,
I used to not be into it.
And then we saw marshmallow and I was like,
I'd like to come back to this when I'm different.
Yeah.
And I think that's a lot of people.
But,
but,
But so that night actually kind of changed me because I was like, I was like, I'm not into EDM.
However, it, this is good.
Like, this is good.
I know that this.
Like, my dad did it about M&M one.
My dad's not a rap fan, but he heard fucking M&M.
And he goes, look, I'm not into rap.
He goes, but I recognize when something is objectively good.
And this motherfucker right here, what?
Like, it blew dad's mine.
So, like, I could get there with that.
it's hard to put myself there with pop fucking country.
But like again, like, dude, they sell out arenas.
It's got to be something to it.
Uh, Trey, how do you feel?
I mean, I agree with everything y'all are saying.
I just, uh, you know.
I'm, I think we're allowed to be a hypocrite.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I hope so.
I mean, like, we have always like a hypocrite, but just like a look.
Everybody gets one thing.
You sound like an asshole.
But now that dude fucking.
I don't care. I'll be an asshole.
I mean, I do feel like, and I'm sure somebody, if they wanted to,
they could probably find clips of disproving what I'm about to say.
But I do feel like it's not, it's not that we've ever said, like,
it's invalid or whatever.
It's just so personal.
Like people, yeah, it is very personal.
It's just like, we've, of course it don't hit for us,
but that's different than saying, like, they ain't doing.
I don't think we've ever implied that, like, they don't hit.
This is the thing that ain't real or shouldn't.
Yeah, they're not good at the thing that they do.
It's just that the thing that they do, we don't like.
Don't have something.
Yeah, right.
We also come from a place of fandom,
and we are offended by what they have done in our minds to a big part of our culture.
Yeah.
If somebody shot on wrestling from that place, that would be very different.
I agree.
There's nothing to wrestling.
And so I was actually about to bring up that point.
So Jim Cornett, who y'all know is like, you know, one of the legends of wrestling,
fucking tennis racket holding Jim Cornett, the manager of the Midnight Express.
He shits on AEW a lot, like a shit ton, because he doesn't like the new direction of
wrestling.
And I disagree with so many things that Jim Cornett says about it.
However, I'm like, but this is Jim Cornett's world.
He's allowed to have that take.
Like if anyone's allowed to be personally offended at something, like, it's someone who
was in that world.
And I know that we're not in the country music world, but we're in the fucking country world.
So it just is, it just is more personal.
Like it's, it is harder to let go for me.
Like when I, again, man, like, because it's just like the conversations that I have to have.
Like I don't ever want to, when someone says, what's your favorite kind of music?
I don't ever want to not say country music.
But I know, but I know that if I say country music, it's like when people used to tell me where
you from, I stopped saying Chickamauga because I knew it was just going to get around to me going,
well, it's two hours from Atlanta.
You know what?
I'm from Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Yeah.
So I just open with Americana now.
but I want so badly to be like,
I fucking like country music, full stop,
that's it, but I can't do that.
There's just, you can't,
because I can't send anybody away from me
thinking that that's what the fuck I mean.
Yeah, exactly.
One more example.
If you said to someone,
like a new friend or whatever, Tray,
imagine having a new friend at this point in the world.
Don't hit.
Hey, I think you'd really like American Aquarium.
And they said,
I don't fucking like country music at all.
and you go, no, no, no, no, it's not radio content.
They go, no, no, no, no, all that twangy bullshit.
It all sucks.
That, to me, would be analogous to people who just shit on wrestling completely.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that's fine.
I guess that that would be fine.
I mean, to me, it depends on how the person would say it.
If they framed it and sort of like, no, I know the distinction you're making,
and I'm telling you I don't like any of that.
Robbie's that way.
It's fine that you do, but I don't like.
like any, if that's how they were about it, then that's fine.
You can't.
But if they were just like, no, I mean all of it.
I've heard all of it.
All of it sucks.
It's all the same and fuck it.
Like if they were that abrasive about it, then no, I'd have to argue with them.
Dude, do you know, well, then do you know that that's Robbie?
That's literally Robbie.
Yeah, but Robbie, if I'm not mistaken, is like, he don't,
ain't he like very?
He barely likes music at all.
Right.
He barely likes music at all, correct?
Like, he don't even care.
But he, his favorite music is rap.
like without a doubt his favorite,
like Robbie,
but the thing is,
like he does listen to a lot of music,
but he,
Robbie pretty much only listens to run the jewels,
DMX,
he loves a tribe called quet.
Like I think he's listening to nothing,
but those three bands,
tribe called quest,
run the jewels,
outcast.
So I mean,
yeah,
Robbie likes stuff that hits,
but like, dude,
I'm telling,
like,
me and him have had that,
I was like,
you mean like,
you just like,
you know,
popy country.
He's like,
fuck Merrill Haggard,
fuck George Jones,
fuck Leonard,
skannard.
He's like,
I hate all that shit.
He goes,
I fucking hate it.
We lost the thread a little, and it's my fault because the way I framed that hypothetical,
if Robbie just don't like the music, then he just don't like the music.
There's no reason for him to pretend to.
I was trying to come up with a hypothetical of someone discounting the entire genre of country
and their fans, just that the whole idea of it is stupid.
Yeah, Robbie does that.
The same way people do wrestling,
saying that that would be different than saying I don't like pop.
country.
Yeah, Robbie definitely thinks I'm an idiot for black and country media.
Yeah, you could have stopped that sentence after many words.
Right, but he doesn't, but it's funny because he doesn't think that about wrestling.
Like, Robbie, every now and then, Loki keeps up with wrestling.
But no, he's like, yeah, no, he definitely thinks I'm an idiot for listening to like, you know, Tracy Lawrence.
Like, this is fucking garbage and you're an idiot and you should fucking die in a trailer.
That's what other songs, actually.
Yeah, yeah, you should die.
a trailer by Tracy.
Tracy Lawrence did just put out a new album, by the way,
and he is coming to do the Chattanooga areas first,
like, I guess big post-COVID in their world.
Tell me you're going.
Well, it's in July, so probably, yeah.
It might be too hot.
Is it outdoor?
It is outdoor, yeah.
I mean, I kind of fucking want to go.
I mean, I like Tracy Lawrence.
And, I mean, he's got a new album.
I'm kind of not excited to hear what some of it is because I have a bad feel.
I have a bad feeling.
You can read the room.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, there might be some like,
might be some,
might be the,
the,
the chauvin.
Politics.
This is my new one.
The Derek Chauvin lament.
Stop showing it down our throats.
Yeah.
Oh, that's good.
That's good.
Take this job and chauvin.
So,
yeah, man,
I don't know.
But I mean,
yeah,
fuck yeah,
I'd like to go.
My buddy Ben Chapman's opening up for him.
That'd be pretty cool.
But is that the guy that played on the patio there?
downtown behind the sometimes behind the um yes the new catch yes you know ben you know ben's awesome
and i thought you hung out with him maybe ben's really cool my buddy uh my buddy a bunch of my buddies
a bunch of my buddies dated his sister back in the day and also a tracy lorence song
covered dray show your t-shirt by gypsy speedboat dude one time let me tell you a story about his sister
then we'll leave. One time we were downtown in Athens, and she got so fucking drunk.
She was so goddamn hammer that she can barely hold herself up.
And so my buddy that was dating her, he also passed out.
And she was just kind of falling over herself.
And her girlfriend was like, look, we were in her apartment complex, but there's like a bunch of apartments and stuff like that, buildings.
And I'm like, she goes, she's over there and blah, blah.
I was like, okay.
And I'm talking, I was like, Caitlin, I'm going to get you home.
So I've got her over my shoulder.
She's like fucking, you know, dead fishing it.
I've got her over my shoulder.
I'm just going to carry her to her apartment, put her on her bed.
Well, as we're walking, like it's me looking like how I look, carrying a lady.
You know, I get it.
I totally did it.
Now, Caitlin definitely knew when I picked her up, but then she went to sleep and forgot that I picked her up.
So we're walking and this, in this apartment complex, a van.
comes pulling up and it's a cab driver.
And he's letting a bitch,
and he goes, hey man, you good?
And I go, yep, we're fine.
And she just, she wakes up and doesn't even know who I am.
She just realizes she doesn't mess on my shoulder.
And she just starts going, rape, rape, rape, right.
And I'm going, and I'm going, no, no, no, no, no.
And he goes, hey, buddy, you okay?
And I go, no, no, no, I'm just, she's just all about to pass up drunk
and I'm just taking her to her fucking bed.
I'm like, I know how that sounds.
I know how that sounds.
I know how that sounds.
I know her and draft.
But I'd have dropped her ass so quick.
Like, yo, what?
No.
I got her off.
I got her off my shoulder, sat her up so she could see me.
And I was like, Caitlin, it's, I bleep that out.
I'll wipe her name out.
I was like, it's fine.
It's cool.
And she goes, oh, hey, never.
And she just looks at the cab guard.
I was like, never mind, not right.
Unless you won't, you know.
But like it, but so like, so I got her up to her.
I got her up to her, fucking, I got her up to her bed and laid her out and then left.
And that was all there was to it.
But like, dude, there for a moment.
Like, it looked, it looked pretty bad.
I ain't gonna lie.
Yeah, no shit.
That's a funny nightmare.
I'm definitely got to bleep some of that out.
Well, this is quick.
It was a stranger, which in some ways makes it way worse.
Harrison Tweed and I left an open mic or a show down in the village late at night.
And this woman was slumped up against the door of her apartment, sitting down with her keys out going like that.
And she just looked at us and was like,
Let me get in.
And me and him looked at each other like,
I don't know.
We can't leave her here, but Jesus.
But we also can't have our fingerprints on them keys.
So we're like, he's like, let me see the keys.
And he starts fooling with the door.
I like stand her up.
We, there were four people walk by.
It was the same kind of offer thing.
We get her in there.
At this point, she's falling over.
Elevator, of course, there's been no one there the whole time.
We get her in and then someone from her building comes in.
and they're looking at us, and we're like, look, you take her.
Literally, you take her.
And then that couple was like, no.
Take this bitch, please.
Luckily, this happened after they got off.
She had that moment.
She never passed out as far as I know where she was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starts hitting elevator buttons.
We're like, it's fine, ma'am, it's fine.
We're not even with you.
We don't even care.
Go to your apartment.
Where is it?
And she's like, it's floor seven.
We're like, okay, go to floor seven, gets off the elevator at floor seven, starts crying.
Then she's like, can you help me get my apartment?
And then had the same thing happen in her.
She started, she had a freak out in her own apartment, thinking Harrison was there to, you know, whatever.
And then this is sad, but so funny, you guys know Harrison.
Yeah.
Harrison is very good looking.
Yeah.
I watched this woman come to freak out because a man was in her apartment, shove him away,
look at him and then go.
Yeah.
Just like that.
And I started horse laughing and then she heard me and did not react that way to me and we had to do it all over again.
Yeah.
Yeah, you'll have that.
Speaking of Harrison, I actually, a plug.
I just did.
I'm on the latest episode of his podcast, the Sex Symbol Project.
So you can go hear hear me just crawl right up my own butt about myself for about an hour.
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