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Episode Date: July 5, 2017This weeks episode comes to ya live from The Green Palace...which is what we call the green room at one of the best comedy clubs in the country.. COMEDY ON STATE BABY! Lord Madison was good to us. We... discuss Drew's run in with Nelson Mandela, Trae's hilarious off camera experience with a Television audience in Chicago, and homosexuality in small southern towns. Download. Subscribe. Tell your friends! Big thanks to y'all for helping us hit A MILLION DOWNLOADS in such a short time span... hell yeah! wellREDcomedy.com for tickets to shows, merch, and our book!!
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Oh my God.
Anyways, I love you so much.
Ski-you.
Well, well, well.
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Hi. Hello. Here we are.
Hi there.
Look at that crown.
I don't know.
There's a literal crown on that trophy over there.
Yeah.
Which, so we're in a green room.
We spend a lot of time in green rooms.
We're in a great house.
We're in a comedy club, too.
We're not at a theater or nothing.
We do theater from time to time.
Absolutely.
We're in a green room of a comedy club right now.
And it's the comedy club on state in Madison, Wisconsin,
which has a very high reputation.
We're very excited about this show.
We're going to do here in a few minutes.
But this green room is the most opulent, ornate, wild-ass.
We're sitting at a conference table with leather chairs.
There's a massage chair in here.
There's ferns and shit.
There's a fucking poker table.
A piano.
Is that a...
It's a trombone.
A trombone.
This is wild.
Is that meant to be a reference to a comedy thing?
I'd have to be, because it is a very rusty trombone.
You know what?
This Green Palace, which is what I'm going to call it.
that can be the name of the episode, live from the Green Palace,
is so big.
I'm wondering if we're going to have echoes on this episode because we're in a camera.
I ain't hearing it right now.
Sounds good to me.
Hold on.
No, no, no.
Before we go any further,
and this ain't going to hit for an audio-only audience,
but I'm still going to do it because I have to know.
The walls are green?
Is that green to you?
He's just saying because it's called a green room,
and this is a big, he's called a green palace.
That makes somewhere more sense.
You thought you were having a stroke for a minute?
Yeah, I was like, bro, that's blue.
He's going through the shit.
I have a brown leather jacket that he and my wife think are black,
but they're the only two people in the world that think it's black.
Isn't it you that excited with her?
I don't think it's made.
I know what jacket you're talking about.
That's absolutely brown.
No, no, no, no.
He's having some me issues today.
That was real.
The shit I was feeling earlier was real.
I know.
I wasn't hallucinating.
I know, and this wall ain't green.
I was feeling vibrations like there was a volcano underneath Madison
Wisconsin or something, but it was...
It was...
Well, it's not great.
I'm saying...
Shut the fuck up.
What was it?
I don't know.
Some kind of...
We were at...
Something in the bowels of the hotel
were staying at,
something like the boiler room or some shit.
Are you sure it wasn't your bowels?
And then Corey...
Corey had empathy pain.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he told me...
Is this sympathy or empathy?
I think it's sympathy.
Sympathy pains, but I mean, you know,
empathy works.
It works.
It works.
It makes more sense.
Yeah, empathy makes way more sense.
But I'm pretty sure the term is sympathy pain.
You're right.
No, yeah, we were sitting there and he was just, he started fucking like,
and I looked over and he goes, again, like something I fucking do.
And he looks over me, he goes, do you, do you feel that?
And like a fucking idiot, I go, yeah.
And I'm, I know, I'm off my game because I was, I was halfway through my first drink.
Uh-huh.
And so I fit immediately, I was like, God damn it, Corey.
Shake my head again.
I wish our fans could see your jowls when you do that.
I look like the kid from the goonies.
No, you look, um, as Corey has trimmed his beer.
and it looks great.
Your beard looks phenomenal.
But his mustache, it's the same length as your beard, you said?
Well, I did it with the same thing.
So yes.
Yeah.
But it looks way shorter.
You know what it is?
I just now realized this.
I went against the grain here with the grain there.
And that's what.
Either way.
Matt, I, yeah.
Yes, that, dude, that absolutely makes a huge fucking difference.
I think it's also maybe that your mustache is either thicker or thinner than your beard or something.
I don't know.
It looks way shorter.
And no, it's because I'm wearing a fucking.
against the grain.
Maliceai.
Malichow is what you called him earlier.
Malicea makes sense on every level.
I used to have a much busier beard than you have now,
and at one point I shaved my mustache just to see what was what,
what was not what.
It did not hit.
You used to talk about all the time.
You had a line beard.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not talking about a chin strap.
I'm talking about like a full-on beard,
but just like you have right now, Drew,
but if you just shaved your mustache.
I mean, it wasn't quite as good as a shit.
The chin strap was straight up.
That's totally different.
That was years ago, years ago.
This was only like three years ago.
The Chinstrap played, God damn it.
We're not doing this again.
The Chinstrap fucking played.
It did play for Rape University.
Well, I mean, I wasn't raping.
I want to start on the record.
I want to make that clear.
There was no rape going on.
But yeah, it was, you know, it was college era and the chin strap played.
Anyway, God damn it.
You can't tell me when you see someone now with the chin strap.
Yeah, of course I do.
You don't think that they have date rape DNA.
Dude.
I've said again, I really wish
y'all had not made it about rape
because I can't, because
you want to defend the chin strap
without saying like you're defending.
I was raping because I wasn't fucking rapy.
We know you weren't, but what?
I was very duchy.
I was very duchy.
I was very duchy.
And I'm very open about that.
Yeah, we know.
You weren't fucking too.
You know that picture of me and you
like from when we were both
like 20 years old, this is not the same time.
And the caption says
Lose 4-Loco voice.
Oh, I made that.
Yeah, I know.
Because you looked, dude, she has fucked, too.
You had a puka shell necklace, as I recall.
And y'all out there listening, not a pink polo shirt with a collar pop.
Two, polo shirts with both collars popped.
Now, one of them was polo.
One on top was apricomic.
There's layers.
So it's layers to his douche.
The horse in the most was fighting it out on my kitty.
I'm just saying, anyway, so you know.
Yeah.
Fuck you.
or shitting on the chintrape when I was 20
fucking years old.
But they didn't want to talk about.
I'm talking about what Corey's got right now.
Full beer but with no mustache.
When I was 20, I wore.
I had on a black t-shirt and jeans and J.C.
Our buddy in Knoxville, when he first saw me, I walked up.
He goes, you look like a bouncer at Rum Spring.
It was funny as fucking things.
Never heard him.
That shit cracked me up hard.
That is funny.
That's what you got going on.
It's a very, it's an Amish.
It is an Amish.
It's Amishy.
Yeah.
It's Amishy.
When I was 20, I wore a,
I feel like I wrote something my phone about Amish.
With, like, knitted, what are they, like, beanie?
Yeah.
You know, like, well, I carried my guitar around campus.
So, you know, we all had our version of douche.
Yeah, I was going to, I was going to try to shit on you at L.
But then I didn't because, like.
I was hitting on all cylinders.
Well, because I was going to be like, yeah, meanwhile, you were off shaking hands with Nelson Mandela.
You fucking tool, you know.
I've never told that's the other podcast.
It is short.
That's actually the end of it.
I met Nelson.
mandela i'm a tool i stole i stole a monogram towel from his bathroom yeah i then lost it had his
initials on it so i took it that's why the second part is insanely raven yeah that i then lost
that is so you speaking of kind of onish oh wait no i didn't steal it i started to and then i felt
bad because it was nelson mandela that's even more raven i know um did you cry
no but this little kid did and that made me cry so let me say this part this is actually
really interesting so he i met him at his at his at his
grandson, Manda, was a buddy of mine when I studied abroad in South Africa and he invited me out or whatever.
And I met him and it was weird and I offended his bodyguard because I put my hand in my pocket because that's what I do when I get nervous.
And then Minalin and the bodyguard had a shout fight.
What do you think you were doing?
That's like a fence.
It's like it's like disrespectful to like put your hands.
It was like I was being disrespectful.
Like I didn't give a shit.
But it's quite the opposite.
I was just so fucking nervous and honored that I just put my hand in my pocket.
Other countries are so fucking stupid when I'm coming.
shit.
Jesus Christ.
Anyway, Mondla
and that bodyguard
after Mandela left.
And that was the other thing.
He just had to go pee.
We were supposed to go
in this great hall and meet him
and they were telling us how to act.
They were about to tell me what not to do,
which is an important fucking lesson
for a redneck like me to learn.
And as they were telling me how to act,
he just walks towards us.
Like the door opens
and this glowing 70-year-old walks out
and I swear to God he glows
and he's like nine foot three.
And he comes out and he's got a big smile
and I'm walking in this hallway
with literally rugs of like African lions.
and fucking zebras and shit and here he comes and uh put my hand in my pocket because i got nervous
and i shook his hand and he said some nice things to me and then he started talking to mindless friend
who i guess he hadn't seen in a while and then he walked off and then mondela my buddy and his security
guard got into a literal screaming match in also which is one of the click languages and if you
ain't ever heard two people screaming each other in one of the click languages i'm sorry if it's offensive
i don't give a fuck it's the funniest thing i've ever heard except i knew it was about me
and then he walked away and i was like what happened he explained it to me and i was
like oh god and he was like fuck that guy he ain't shit like that's not what he said but that's what
he was like basically like i'm nelson medella's fucking grandson fuck that guy he ain't shit and also
my grandfather's been around the world he's not expecting you to know our fucking customs he
knows you're a dumb american and he's fine with it yeah i was about said did mandela in any way
get offended well i mean he had met bill clinton so i was definitely his second favorite
southerner of all time at that that that to me like is the perfect analogy for liberalism for
the most part. The person that you were
allegedly offending didn't
actually get offended. Just had to be. Just didn't get
offended. And then someone else was like, you fucking
blah, blah, blah, blah. Got offended on their behalf.
On their behalf, yeah.
So,
anyways. Oh, wait, I didn't tell you
about crying. Please go on.
Another kid cried. Oh, a kid
cried and that made you cry. And the next day
which you reminded me of a story I'm going to tell
after this. So the next day
he comes and he speaks to the people. It was at this
event. It was a religious event, but they
had combined it with like AIDS education awareness because like apparently in some of the
rural areas of South Africa, you know, they, they don't think condoms work or they think if you,
you know, stab a girl you won't get AIDS from or something.
I don't know.
It's kind of wow.
Some of the stuff's really fucked up.
Yeah.
Or not joke about it.
Anyway, he gave his speech.
And then in their religion, they have these like praise worshippers who like honor the ancestors.
And they were honoring Mandela like they do an answer.
ancestor. They were speaking in coast. I didn't know what they were saying. They were shouting.
They looked like hellfire and brimstone preachers honestly. They were like jump around.
One of the people was a nine-year-old boy who was like a shaman in training. I guess they
started him young there. And, uh, shawboy. Yeah, shawboy, not a shawman. So shaw boy starts going
in. He's nine. Mandela had freed the country a decade before that. So this kid was literally
not alive when he had done that. And he was so moved, I guess, by the history of it.
And this is probably why he was special and a shawboy.
He just started crying.
And I was, like, taking pictures like the dumb westerner, you know, and then I started crying.
I had no idea what anybody was saying.
Just a blubbery mess there.
And I feel like it was one of those things, too, where definitely there was some people there.
I was like, why that white guy crying?
Right.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
What's his problem?
Yeah.
That's funny.
Well, this is a completely sort of polar opposite story that literally, I said,
you reminded me of it.
Literally, you mentioned a black child.
And that's what reminded me of this.
story.
Completely different thing.
And I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to talk about this.
I don't know why I wouldn't be.
But so is this going to come out this week, Corey?
Yes.
So when people are listening to this, it's June 28th, this Wednesday?
Yeah.
Okay, so not tomorrow, but the next Thursday, July 6th at 9 o'clock on Fusion TV,
I'll be on the AV Club live.
I just filmed that in Chicago, and it was very fun.
and I was telling you all earlier,
I didn't know there was a live studio audience at all,
but there is a live studio audience.
And I didn't know there even was one,
and I walk in the studio and they're like,
okay, everybody,
give it up a try crowd,
and I start clapping,
I look around,
and the audience is literally,
it's not tourists or nothing.
And I don't know how they do this at every taping,
but at this taping,
it was literally the entire studio audience
was this inner city youth community outreach program
in Chicago called,
something like our block, our city, our future, or something like that.
And it was just them and my wife Katie.
That was the entire studio audience.
And so, and they were great, and it was fun or whatever.
And then later on, after the taping, they were, some of the producers of the show sat down with the kids and their sponsors.
When I say kids, they're like 12 to 15-ish.
I bet they were trying to predict your wife's name and half of them got it right.
Guarantia.
You're probably right, yeah.
Yeah. So they were sitting there feeding them lunch and I, you know, talking to them about, I guess, working in television or whatever. And I was just leaving. I was walking by and walked by that, you know, me being me, I was like, you know, I'll stop and inspire these children of America a little bit.
So anyway, I just stopped. I was like, what's up, guys? How are y'all doing? So was that, was that terrible? Don't lie to me. Was that real bad? And they were super sweet. They were like, no, we're all. We love your accent. We're going, we're going to start talking like you now, you know, or whatever. They were.
real cool to me.
And then I said, and as a comedian, this will make sense.
And I didn't even think about it when I said it, but I said, I didn't even know there was
an audience.
And I walked out and I saw you guys and I was like, wow, that's a tough looking crowd there.
And, you know, with my accent and everything, right, almost made it.
Yeah, immediately, I was like, ooh.
Because I, you know, it's very, I hear it is just like, oh, it's going to be a tough
crowd.
Tough crowd.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Because we all know teenagers, that is, that's a tough crowd.
For comedy.
For comedy.
No matter what demographic they are, just teenagers is a tough crowd.
And to be fair to you, I feel like black teenagers from Chicago and your accent might have been an extra tough comedy crowd.
Yeah, you weren't wrong.
It's just hilarious.
They came off as it's like tough.
They look tough.
They're like street tough.
You weren't wrong.
You were just right at the wrong time.
They're rough customers.
I feel like as I came across, which is not at all what I meant.
Like, I might as well walked up and like I was just such a fucking white square.
You have it's like you.
So?
You guys like Chief King.
That Chief Keith's something else, isn't it?
Boy, Golden State going to do it again next year, huh?
That was a goal.
Terek Rose, you know, he lived in Tennessee for a while.
Yeah.
I like Steph Curry, but he is too light.
Am I right?
Yeah, yeah, come on.
Like, what is he?
Yeah.
But anyway, I just couldn't get out of there without doing something socially awkward and stupid.
But you didn't follow it up by, like, you didn't compound the issue.
No, no, no, I just kept going.
And again, they got the fuck out.
They were very, they were very cool.
And the whole thing was cool.
But anyway, I just thought that was a story that y'all would like to hear.
If they were in a program for inner city youth that goes around Chicago doing stuff like that,
I guarantee you that is probably like the fifth least awkward.
She's the fifth most awkward thing a white person has said to them about that.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Because that's how white people be.
Right.
We'd be doing that.
Some intern named Katie had definitely said to, you know, a kid named George,
Now, Jamal, what's it like growing up in the ghetto?
Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
Complete polar opposite of that scenario.
Here's where I've been for the last week.
I've been in Wayne County, Tennessee, which is where my wife is from.
There's a few things I want to unbox here, okay?
A little context for Wayne County.
It's the crime.
Yeah, there you go.
It's the context.
That's right next door.
It's the most.
I know.
It's not actually in Wayne County.
But the clan was founded 50 miles as the crow flies.
When naming the county, they said, hey, what's everybody here's name?
But they don't like crow flying.
Right.
It was just, yeah, it was aptly named county.
Wayne.
Everybody yelled Wayne, and they're like, and so it is.
So, and it also, Trump won by, like, literally 88% there or something like that.
Very, very heavy, very heavy margin.
Okay.
Yeah, right, 88 to 12.
So, like, that's the kind of place that is.
I thought you might have been, like, I can't do the math.
but like there's an 88 point difference.
Yeah.
No, I meant 88 to 12.
Okay, okay.
But, um, and that's, this is the first time that I've been back there since all this stuff has happened.
Oh, shit.
Post-hit, as we like to call it.
And I was going back there specifically for, uh, my sister-in-law, Katie's younger sister,
she was getting married to a preacher.
He's a good guy.
My immediate in-laws, they're all cool.
But so I'm going to this church wedding and Wayne County.
Oh, shit.
I didn't know.
That's what you were there for.
Yes, I did.
I knew there for wedding, but when I hear wedding, like, my brain don't even go to church
any, like church weddings.
No, no, it was old school southern church wedding.
A guy got up there and talked about the importance of submitting to your husband as a wife
and all that stuff, like that whole thing.
Damn.
Yeah, yeah.
I haven't been to one of them in a minute.
Yeah, well, that's what I was in Wayne.
I've been to some drive ones.
Last church, last church wedding I went to was a Catholic wedding and it hit like a mother brother.
Yeah, Catholic's get drunk.
Hell yeah.
These people get drunk on the spirit.
on the spirit. Well, they get drunk when nobody's around.
But, and so I was wondering, not that I was nervous,
and more so the nervous, I was more like, you know,
sort of wishing the motherfucker would a little bit, you know.
But I was curious, like, is anything going to happen?
And nothing did to my, this is so, this is so perfectly southern,
small town southern, nobody said a word to me about it the whole time.
I heard afterwards from various.
his cousins and stuff.
People be talking shit.
People be talking shit.
The way my mother-in-law described
it was there was people there waiting on me to start
biting the heads off of chickens or whatever
and they were disappointed when I didn't
that would have had burst into flames
of walking into the church.
Like it was definitely a thing.
What if he was going to say him biting a head off a chicken
ain't got shit to do with religion.
That's just him being hurt.
God damn, we're going to start the cake.
Him catching on fire.
I can see him accidentally walking into a
candle.
His arms are so goddamn long.
His sleeve just drapes into a candle.
Some old three or four year old.
Look daddy.
He is all fire like you said.
That trade a devil.
Oh, God damn it.
That would have been great.
Well, we're writing that into something.
So they also, I also found out when I was talking to my in-laws afterwards,
I don't remember what brought this up exactly.
But basically they said there's literally not that they're aware of and it's a very small town.
Right.
So like they kind of know everybody.
My in-laws do.
They said there's literally.
no one in
Wayne County, no one
who's openly gay, because
like, you, that's not a
thing there, you don't do that.
Right. And also,
I had one fan at the
wedding. There was one fan, came
up to me. A woman. No.
The wedding coordinator? No.
Did I fuck up the joke? No, no, no, no. You didn't.
I just, we had to talk about that later.
Was he leading the choir? He was
the one in all
black dude in a 200 mile
hell yes
hell yes
God nothing feels better
yeah he came up to me
he came up to me
did he whispered yeah he whispered
he like leaned over
he goes hey
are you that guy that's a
connoisseur of pissing off
shitty white people
and I said yeah that's me
and he was like
I love you know I'm a big fan man
or whatever and this is another
I forgot to even tell you all this one
he said I'm a big fan man I said
well you know that makes you the minority
around here
I swear to God
He had to have thought
You were hitting
That was a pun
I don't know that I wasn't
I was just like
Corey got so happy
His chin got wobbly or somehow
I got real lightheaded
I did that down at the bar again
But I laughed so hard
That's like the blood rushed to my head
And I got lightheaded
But so yeah
That's another moment
In ravenry for me there
But
Does Corey look younger
It's because he got a real tan
Instead of that bronze shit
I'm not really tan though
I only laid on the beach
One goddamn day
Because I fucking hurricane
cane came.
Do I look tan, though?
I'd like to know.
I don't know.
You just look eight somehow.
Last week he was talking about...
Last week I had a full mustache and you was talking about how goddamn I looked eight.
You dressed eight last week.
Now you look like you're chewing on molasses while Daddy works the field.
Fuck, I wish, buddy.
So there were...
There were this group of girls there that was running the food service, right?
Run the catering, whatever.
And a couple times I went back there and...
I went to ask for...
some cheese.
My man.
Liquid cheese, because I knew they had it, but they didn't put it out on the buffet, so I knew
that's holding out.
Yeah, that's off-manue.
I had seen it back there.
Holden out.
So I went back there and asked where the cheese was.
And a couple of those girls, like, I, just because they were the first ones I saw.
That's how much money has changed you.
You're going off-man-you at weddings.
I just, I knew that.
I know you got in the back.
I had seen it.
I had seen it, and then it wasn't out there.
It's your story, because I'm interested in this.
I walk in, and just because they were the first ones there, I was like,
hey, y'all, where's that cheese at?
You know, whatever. And they just looked at, like, just looked at me and didn't say a word.
And then this other lady who I had met the day before, the one in charge, this older lady,
she was like, oh, honey, it's right there, get whatever you want.
And I came back there later to get a napkin for Bishop, my five-year-old.
Same exact thing.
It was the same girls.
And I was like, hey, I'm sorry.
Where's the, y'all got some napkins back here?
And they just stared at me and didn't say nothing.
And then that time, I just saw some and grabbed them.
And, like, I thought in my head.
I was like, they know who I am and hate me.
Okay.
That's what I thought.
Katie told me later that she thinks that...
They're deaf.
No, that it's a religious thing.
Like the church that they go to, like, they're allowed to talk to men they don't know or whatever.
Now, that's Katie's sub-position.
I'm about to put these people out on front street.
They wouldn't have let them work.
I'm about to say, if you replace men they don't know with at all,
I would be curious to know what the fuck religion that was.
Like, what sect of...
But I'm not, though.
I'm sorry.
But I've never...
Have you heard that?
No, man.
Well, actually, I take that back.
I take that back.
That's for the young girls.
Yeah, but they weren't...
No, no, no.
They were younger girls.
They were like teenagers, probably.
Okay, maybe, but they wouldn't let them work where they have to talk to me.
They didn't.
They were in the back.
I've heard about it.
I've heard about it.
It's just old...
Maybe you just freaked them out.
All right, where's a cheese?
Probably that.
Probably that.
Because I also walked into her cousin's...
salon she works at and
I just walked in and was like
her cousins had some like
relationship things over the past year
but I walked in
wearing like a cut off shirt and shit and I was just
I was just like Chelsea
Chelsea!
What did Chelsea at? And again
everybody in there just looked at me in my head
I was like oh y'all don't think I had
is that what it is? But I realized later
it's probably because they thought Chelsea's about to get her
ass me again. Y'all see
Chelsea? Where's Chelsea? Don't tell
them where Chelsea is.
So yeah I mean
some at god damn cheese when i get back here yeah in fairness it probably was a lot me i'm sure it was
and not in the they know me and don't like me way just that i'm i'm weird so you i put people off
made 13 year olds uncomfortable by being like hey where's the cheese at yeah and i offended
literally the last gray icon of the world i put my hand in my pocket that really sums up how
i feel about my place in the world like i don't i didn't even do anything wrong and i made people
mad and then you're back there just screaming
everybody
right
well but so here's what
I said all those things to get
to this something I want to talk to y'all about
and we talked about a little bit before
off mic
I don't know if we ever talked about it on here but like
I used to be way way
way more apologist about the
south than I currently am
right because you moved
over the past few years I've only realized
that like no that
that was a joke I was just joking
about you being a cell out for all
it's false which
it's got to
a million of them. Like, that whole, there isn't a single gay person in Wayne County because
you're not allowed to be gay here thing. That's not even a little bit true in Salina. I can name
you six or seven openly gay people who live in Salina right now. One of them's my uncle Tim.
Yeah, he was the trailblazer. Right. Well, I mean, I don't know that that's even true. A couple of them
are around his age and it's been around as long as I can remember. And also, like, and open as long as
you can remember it to you. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It was one of the things
like literally everybody knew it but dude when I said everybody knew it like they didn't even try to cover it up at all yeah I remember there were two women didn't talk about it I remember there are two women who were teachers in Morgan County one was at our school one was that another one who lived together but they but they Jesus scory like teachers uh so they uh oh they everyone knew they live together and as I recall everyone everyone
knew they were in a relationship, but they didn't, but they still hit it if that made sense.
They would never hold hands.
They didn't like, you know what I mean?
Okay, so one of these guys, and I'm not going to say his name or another.
But that was because they were teachers.
There were other people who were open.
One of these guys was a pillar of the community type guy because he owned a very, at the time,
successful business there.
And, like, he used to come to all the ball games and stuff.
And this dude was a middle-aged gay guy.
And I swear to God, he would come to these ball games with, like, different, like,
young boy toys from, like, I don't.
like, I don't know where he even found them.
Like, more than one at a time.
He'd bring, like, two 20-year-old Puerto Rican dudes.
Hell yeah.
And, like, tight shirts to basketball games and shit.
It sounds like he hit.
I swear to God.
And people, like, so I'm saying it wasn't even a little bit of a secret.
So it sounds like you had that make money conservatism in Salina,
and she had that praise Jesus conservatism.
But there's no money there or not.
Like, there's that brand of conservatism of as long as your success.
You're worth something, which is bullshit.
It's a specific type of bullshit.
But then there's the religious type of bullshit, which is you have to believe the way I do.
What I've always chalked it up to, even though these two don't necessarily go hand in hand,
because a lot of times actually the black community is not super progressive toward the gay community for whatever,
well, for Jesus reasons a lot of times, at least in the South.
Right.
So not that these two necessarily go hand in hand, but I've always chalked it up to the fact that unlike most towns of that size in the rural South or in rural Tennessee anyway,
we have a black community there
because like when it also like people ask us
sometimes about the clan
our experiences with the clan
and I tell them like in total honesty
I'm like I've never had a single one
I've never seen a clan member
I've never had any I've never even heard rumors
of like clan rallies or nothing
I've never heard rumors of Clay County rallies
and like the N word too like growing up
like don't give me wrong people said the fucking N word
but I'm saying like
you know not at all
that was a good way to get your ass wooked in Salina
in my school anyway.
Like that wasn't a thing.
And so because that's where I grew up,
it was on one hand this tiny,
you know, in a lot of ways,
shitty southern town that was so stereotypical.
But yet a lot of that stuff
I genuinely wasn't seeing ever.
So I grew up being like, man,
that shit ain't real.
You know what I mean?
For a long time as far as like
the hardcore racism, homophobia and stuff.
I'd be like,
I mean, yeah,
maybe here and there, but not, I'm from, I'm from as redneck of a town as it gets.
And I ain't never seen no shit like that.
You know what I mean?
And I had to, I had to meet people like, like this motherfucker, like Corey from Chickamauga's wild-ass town.
Corwood to Pea.
Or specifically, my wife, Wayne County, which is one of those places.
Or like Jeff Blank, our buddy who's a comedian who's from this town called Rockwood in East Tennessee,
he's told me some pretty wild-ass stories about that place.
And they have a very large black community
I mean for a town that size
See I didn't even know
Well see so I don't know what it is then
That's what I'm saying
Like I don't know
So but I had to
It took me a while to realize that
Salina is different
I guess for most towns like that
And I had to start being more honest about
Yeah but remember that story
The reality of that shit
I couldn't just deny stuff anymore
But remember that story
You told on the podcast maybe before
Maybe not about your
sister and you told her that and she was like what are you talking about you're right that yes so it might
have just been your class a and b dude and i you know i hate sucking or i hate complimenting you but
it might it might be like the you know vibe energy whatever you put out your personality the fact
that you're loud and the fact that people knew who you are that you just didn't do that around me
i remember talking about when i was in high school i remember telling my friend how we were too small for
clicks.
Yeah.
And he was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
I was, you know, man, like, those kids over there, this and that, like, but, you know,
like, these goth kids, you know, they don't hang out with us, but, like, we're cool with
them.
And he was like, I said the same thing.
And my friend was like, you're cool with them.
And they are cool, quote, unquote, with you, because you're a popular guy who, like, says
hi to him.
You know, these guys and those guys fucking hate each other.
Right.
Well, see, they have there.
I know why we're all three friends, because I would have said the exact same shit.
That right there, I think, and I actually was going to get into that,
so I'm glad you brought it up.
I think that maybe is what it actually is.
Because I've said before about my uncle, like, you know,
another thing I realized later in life was like,
he probably was absolutely going through shit like that all the time,
but he wasn't going to tell his fucking eight-year-old nephew about it.
You know what I mean?
He wouldn't want me to know about it.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, this...
It was probably just my insulated experience,
and maybe Salina is that way,
but I genuinely didn't know because I just,
didn't see that kind of shit.
As far as the Klan and all that shit goes, no, that was not a fucking thing.
There's two things that work here.
There's obviously our privilege or whatever of like, well, you don't have to notice it if it doesn't apply to you.
Right.
And then there might be some sort of extra privilege or, I don't know what the right word would be,
situation where who you are, people knew who your uncle was, for example.
So they didn't say shit around you, you know, disparaging gay people as often as they would have or whatever.
and then it might just be your place in time
because that conversation you're talking about having with Page
I think it might have been
I think didn't you say it I don't want to put words in your mouth
you felt like it might have been that
who the black guys were in your particular class
they were popular they were tough et cetera et cetera
really good football players they were yeah they'd whip your ass
they didn't because they were nice guys but I'm saying
if you were if you called them the N word or whatever they would
you know what I mean like so
of course yeah I think
had a whole lot to do with it because the only black people in Page's Gray were girls.
And I think she had a completely different experience.
But then, though, I think about the gay thing.
It's like I said, yeah, maybe my uncle was catching a lot of shit for being gay,
and he just never shared that with me because why I would he?
But also, you know, I said earlier, I can name you six or seven openly gay people
and sliding off at top of my head.
I mean, I really could.
That's an objective thing.
That's not just my perspective.
And the thing I said about to do with the boy toys, that was a thing.
in front of the whole town.
Well, dude, this is...
So it's something different.
Right.
Well, this is very analogous to,
and I have talked about this on the podcast before,
I didn't know how fucking awful religion can be in the South.
Right.
Because I was sincerely raised in a church that was full of love.
The scariest thing I had to deal with was just the concept of hell.
And look, that's plenty to terrify an eight-year-old.
Trust me.
I had a phobia of eternity.
until like five years ago.
I was going to say minutes, but yes.
Yeah, fair enough.
I'm probably going to get freaked out and I'm going to have a panic attack.
But it was when I started going to other churches like for lock-ins or like, you know,
bang or bang-or-bang a girl on the Gatlinburg trip or whatever it was that I started hearing more hateful stuff.
Now, don't get me wrong, people at my church, I think if you ask them as being gay as sin or do those people go to hell or whatever,
they'd probably be like, you know, unless they repent, you know, or whatever.
But that's not what the preacher was preaching about.
Right.
And so when I learned or started learning that religion had that side to it and I heard that critique of it, I was very much an apologist.
I was very much like, no, that ain't what it is and it's not like that and blah, blah, blah, because I had one experience where it wasn't really quite like that and I was insulated from it.
And then I started looking around and paying attention and I went, oh, like I had a good church, but it was very much an outlier.
Yeah, I was the opposite because mine was.
was I went, the last church I ever went to was like, hey, it was a good one.
I was done fucking gone by then.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
What about the racism and stuff?
Because when you went to pee earlier, I mentioned, I said, I had to get, I had to meet people.
Well, like, Corey, for example, who's from a place like Chickamauga, which, you know,
you tell stories about like shit people have said or done, and I'm always, and I'm like,
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, and I just always assumed that was just, how it is.
Well, I think, I think that you're more right than I.
I do think Chichamago is pretty wild.
It is, but like, yeah.
It is, but, like, and also, like, the surrounding areas, too, like, Chattanooga, although there was some...
Chattanooga, though.
No, I know I'm saying the surrounding areas of Chattanooga.
Right.
Like, their suburbs also, when I go out there, I meet super racist, insane people, like, just the whole, the whole general Chattanooga area.
And, of course, I don't count Chattanooga, because, yeah, it's a city.
There's a lot of liberal folk there, and there's a lot of, it's, you know, gotten really...
Well, not unlike how Trey puts out and therefore attracts progressive people.
Maybe you're just attracting insane people.
I ain't, I ain't going to say that ain't true.
I ain't going to say that ain't true at all.
I was just trying to hit, buddy.
You did hit, but at the same time, a good hit comes with an ounce of truth, I guess, and shows of a feather.
Yeah, man, I mean, people like being around me, probably lunatics.
They're like, this guy don't make me feel as bad.
Yeah, right.
You know, that's funny, but those people don't feel bad, though.
No, they don't.
They really don't.
That's part of the thing.
No, I am like.
But you were saying, like, I don't know.
Like, people in our town say that they're,
because there's no, you know, that's a, that's just New York and California.
We don't have gay people here.
And I'm like, I can name eight.
Now, they weren't open when they were here, but they moved as soon as high school was over,
and now they're fucking living in San Francisco.
I can think of one kid who moved.
His name was Sabin, which is not a great name to have if, you know, you seem to be.
And you seem to be gay.
Everyone called him Gabon.
He left.
I can laugh because my name also rhymes with gay, so.
He left, like, immediately.
I was, I was just laughing at how uncreative.
people are.
And then,
I got another buddy who I won't say his name,
although he is out and open,
and he left pretty much immediately,
but he just went to Knoxville.
But he's back now,
because he's been through some other shit
related to addiction or whatever.
But, I mean, no of that matters.
But my point is people do get the fuck out.
Of course, I left too.
I left at 17.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying like that,
but they want to act like,
we don't have them here.
As soon as he got to California,
they started sucking Wainers.
I'm like,
He went there to suck
Wainers.
He went in a lot.
California is full of whiskey.
Weiner's and gold.
Whiskey,
Wings and Gold.
That's the name of this podcast.
Fug that.
That's the name of the Gypsy Speedgoat out of
Whiskey Wings and Gold, baby.
Episode 21.
Whiskey winners.
I'm going to write this tonight.
It's going to be fire.
Can I still name the podcast
Episode 21 Whiskey Wainers and Gold?
Absolutely.
Have we talked about Gypsy Speedboat on here?
I don't know.
Jpsy Speedboat is our band.
That's our band that we're going to do in the future.
And we have songs like Whiskey Wainers and Gold.
So, Andy has a cousin.
Andy, my wife has a cousin.
I won't say his name.
What?
Faked his own death.
Oh, yeah.
I recently.
I knew that story.
And went to California for Whiskey Wainers and Gold.
Yeah. And as far as I know, has married him like an Air Force man. He got him a pilot.
Well, dude, you go through that. You deserve it.
Yeah, but, like, we're talking about this.
It's just, our head was in the sand. Obviously, I mean, again, obviously because of our previous.
Wasn't this reason? That's kind of my whole point is like.
We're not gay and we're not black. So there was obviously a reason that our heads could be in the sand.
But, like, that's a fucking extreme move to fake your own fucking dead.
And, like, dude, the thing is, even if there's a lot of people like, you know, he didn't have to death.
that and sure but just the fact that someone thinks i might have to go to this extreme yeah whether
it was right or not well that fucking football player was in the news the patriots yes that was gonna kill
himself his plan was if you're not familiar with the story our fans because you hate sports
oh you guys are talking about sports balls okay he uh was a gay football player uh in the
NFL and his plan literally was to retire and then kill himself.
Yeah.
And he came out to, I want to say a manager of operations, like a pretty high up official,
but not the owner and not the coach, but someone in the office.
And he said, you know, I got a problem.
Blah, blah, blah.
I'm gay.
And he was like, and the guy was like, okay.
And what's the problem?
Right.
And apparently like that sparked him to be inspired to come out to some of his
ex-teammates and some of them apparently weren't super cool with it but most of them were
and they were really supportive he was literally planning to kill himself and he and he my
understanding is his thought on it was I can't be both these things and I'm a high
anymore.
And I'm a football player.
Yeah.
And I don't get a be anymore like is it like an identity.
I read the article.
Like he didn't feel like he could be him anymore.
This is what's, this is what's interesting about he he literally said in the article that he
started playing football because he was gay.
And he's like, I know if I could, this is the most manly thing you do.
Nobody will ever suspect I'm gay if I play football.
And that motherfucker went to the NFL.
It became a millionaire.
Became a millionaire.
So what happened was he was playing for the Patriots.
He got hurt.
Then he goes to the chiefs got hurt again.
And it was over.
And he started doing pain pills very badly.
And he was basically prolonging the, I'm going to kill myself.
Because once his identity was gone, he's like, I can't have the other one because people are going to fucking hate me.
Right.
So, yeah, that fucking.
sucks. Millionaire football player and has to not be who he is. That's fucking shit. That's
what you come to the well-read podcast for. Yeah. This is amazing takes like that. That fucking
sucks. That's a bummer, man. Forget. That's a huge bomber, dude. Forget a millionaire
football player. I've known people personally that were like married for years with children
and then eventually came out of the closet as gay and like other.
people that I knew that knew them were like, I can't believe he would do that to her, his wife,
or to his kids or whatever.
Like, it's so selfish and all this stuff.
And like, I mean, I get, I mean, yeah, that really, that's really terrible for everybody
involved, including the wife and the children.
They don't deserve that shit or whatever.
But, but I also was always like, well, yeah, but I mean, it's way, way more sad and
fucked up that he ever thought that he had to do that in the first place because of,
where he grew up and how he grew up.
You know what I mean?
Like he denied what he was so much
or hated what he was so much
that he didn't go to the NFL,
you know,
be a pro football player to prove he wasn't gay,
but he stayed married for 18 years.
And I would suggest doing that.
You're going to do it.
Go to the NFL.
Yeah, that's a way better option.
But I'm saying, you know.
That's a pretty nice closet,
the NFL locker room.
Yeah, yeah.
You get paid well in it.
I mean, yeah, you get paid well in it.
You know, walk-in closet.
I bet that
That's a hard
fucking environment
to be gay in,
but it sucked.
I was just trying to make a dumb joke.
Because I made it for me.
Super super macho
dudes like that.
You know he heard all kinds of terrible shit.
I got another buddy
who y'all know,
don't say his name,
who his dad won't talk to him.
He grew up in Clarkville.
His dad is a,
you know,
fucking taxidermist.
So, you know,
if you go down the stereotypes
right there,
it's like,
oh,
hunting family, you know.
He drives people with his feet,
right?
not going to accept him and anyway him and his father don't talk now they had a you know tense
relationship over the years before he ever came out but my understanding is that was part of the
end of their talking well i tell you what thank god for uh whiskey weaners and gold because otherwise
this has been a heavy-ass conversation yeah sure has we needed that break in the middle there
where we at core about 41 41 we still got all right we got time we got time later
I have a topic that I was thinking about saving for another podcast.
Actually, I am going to do that.
Never mind.
Sorry for the T's.
Well, I mean, all of us at once?
Because the Trump are just the three of us.
Just any of, yeah.
Either way, I'm good with it, buddy.
Okay.
Well, all right.
We'll save it for another podcast.
Well, I feel like we pretty well covered my whole, I don't know shit because I'm from Salina,
but not in the way you think that I don't know shit.
I'm ignorant in a totally different way.
I think you should name the episode that
I don't know shit because I'm from Salina,
but I know in a way that you don't think that I know shit
in a totally different way.
Trey Crowder.
Did y'all see Iswell on The Daily Show?
I did.
I still hadn't seen it yet.
I really liked it, particularly
did you notice at the end of his interview,
he got a little red ass without even meaning to?
He was talking about some of the hate that he gets
and what he basically said was,
well, I mean, none of the motherfuckers say it to my face.
he literally said that.
He said, I am 6-1-200 pounds.
Don't know if I ever come up to my face and say,
I didn't like that song.
It's always in my face, but I was like,
you still are redneck.
Yeah, that's kind of like what he said.
He ever denies it.
What I read about what he said about Travis Tritt a couple weeks ago.
So I'm paraphrasing very hard because I hadn't read the article since I read it
when we're in Los Angeles, but apparently Travis Trit has gone on record.
And he didn't say this just too is, but he just said it.
in general. He's like, you know, I think that entertainers should keep their politics and
their opinions to themselves and just, you know, play and sing. And Isbilt responded with, yeah,
well, I think Travis Tritch should shut his damn mouth because he's never written a goddamn song. He
don't get paid for what he thinks. He gets paid to shake his ass and have a fancy haircut. And I was
like, Lord, you were such still a redneck and I love it. Well, he talked about being an entertainer.
Travis Tritch has shut his fucking mouth. He talked about being an entertainer versus an artist.
Yeah, on that Daily Show. Oh, okay, cool.
I think that's a very interesting concept.
You can break it down a million ways.
I always tense up a little bit when people start talking about comedy as an art.
You know, oh, what an artist.
There's absolutely.
Because once we, like...
Then you and Jeff Dunham are the same thing?
It's not that.
It's that, no, no, no.
Well, wait, what do you mean?
Well, I mean, like...
And yeah, what do you, I mean, it is art.
I was a fan.
Or you could say he's an entertainer and, and, you know,
We're, and we're, it's just a huge fan for years before everyone started doing comedy.
It's art.
I used to say that I thought comedy, stand-up comedy was like one of the purest art forms there was because it's just a person and a fucking microphone.
And I agree with that.
So I've always thought that it was an art.
I completely do, I completely agree with that.
But here's what happens to art in our world.
It gets taken.
I mean, everything that's art, it starts out for, you know, people to like, when they get off work and joy.
Whatever it is, theater, paintings.
music, jazz specifically comes to mind,
and then it ends up being four fucking academia
to write about and him and haul around
and fucking critics to talk about ad nauseum.
And in my opinion, that fucking ruins it.
Or it takes a lot away from it.
I don't feel like the academics and shit
are the ones that usually end up ruin it.
I feel like it's the plutocrats
and the capitalists that end up ruining it.
The people that want to make it make the most amount of money
it possibly can,
are the ones that fuck it up, not the people that, I mean, don't get me wrong.
The people that dissect it down to the very last, they can, they can fuck it up a little
bit too sometimes, but in different ways.
I'm not complaining about them so much because they love it.
Right.
They love it.
I'm talking about more like, let me break it down because that's part of my job now as an
academic, is to write about these things.
And I think they're part of the same, pardon me of sound like a fucking Bernie bro for a second,
they're part of that same capitalist situation.
The plutocrats want to suck all they can of it and make as much money as they can out off
of whatever it is, the comedian, the writer,
the musician, the people that I'm talking about,
the academics, I mean, not people who love it,
so they write about it and break it down
and maybe overanalyze it a little too much.
I'm talking about people who are like,
oh, I can make a career off that.
I can't be one, but I can shit on one for the rest of my life.
You mean the people who can't just let Louis go do Louis.
They have to be like, let's examine Louis's new hour.
And it's like, I just want to hear his fucking new hour.
I'll give a shit what you think.
Right, or to go back to my analogy, not,
and sorry for sounding douchy for a second,
if you guys don't get these references, anybody,
but not like Amiri Baraka writing about jazz.
He's a poet, and he was a jazz critic,
and he fucking love jazz.
I'm talking about the people who wanted to copy Amiri Baraka,
who just, like, that was a thing they could do,
and they made jazz into their own thing.
Do you know what I mean?
They took it.
They took it from fucking poor black people.
There's a reason it's on elevators
and played in fucking garden parties for rich people now.
Right.
And it's partly the plutocrats, like you said, Trey,
but it's also, I think, these people who, like,
make money and make careers
just being like
well that one's not good and this one's good
I'm a taste maker
I hate that shit
okay well fine let's get into that a little bit
then if we got some time left
correct me if I'm wrong
you're talking about you're getting into the whole
you know fuck
fuck a critic situation like you know that
that famous Teddy Roosevelt quote
it's like it's not the critic that counts
it's the man in the arena
who actually gets the fucking blood on his hand
whatever like that's all that matters
it's not the person that sits and watches it and has an opinion on it.
A lot of artists share that shit around or athletes too, but like...
And I like it, but here's the problem with it.
Some, dude, fucking, Ebert loves movies.
Right.
He loves them.
Well, I was going to say...
There's people who don't.
There's two reasons that I have always had a problem with that.
The first one is it'd be hypocritical with me because I read reviews of shit all the time.
Of course.
Both movies and albums, whatever, when they come out, I'll look and see what the general response is,
just to get an idea.
So that's number one.
Number two is I've always felt like,
and I know me and you talked about this a lot recently,
but we weren't on the podcast.
I don't think we were just drunk in my hotel room.
But like, I've always felt like,
before I ever got in this position,
I always felt like, to me,
that's part of what you sign up for
when you get into any entertainment industry,
and that includes sports entertainment too.
Pro athletes and artists or whatever.
That's part of the job description.
Because if there were not people who cared enough to shit on you, even as a career or whatever, then you wouldn't have a fucking job.
That's true.
If there was nobody shitting on me, that would mean there's nobody talking about me, which means I wouldn't be here doing this right now.
So, like, it's part and parcel of the whole thing.
It's unavoidable.
You have to just deal with it.
And so I just try not to bitch about it too much.
No, I 100% agree with you.
And, you know, there is the whole haters make me famous.
That's like a real thing.
but what I mean is
I don't know if this is the actual
what you're made
this is what made me think of
like nowadays
it's almost
it's not cool if you like something
and so I feel like
a lot of times when like
something gets ripped to shit
on fucking rotten tomatoes
I feel like a lot of times
it's like you you went into this movie
wanting to fucking hate it
you didn't go into this movie
going like hey blank sheet
I'm really going to give you my opinion
you're like no
the last eight DC movies suck
I mean that's a bad example
because Wonder Woman got really
have sucked and then that one did get good reviews. Right, right, but you know what I'm saying. Like, that's why, that's honestly why I believe so much that I'm going to love Wonder Woman because I was like, they weren't just trying to do DC some goddamn favors. You know what I mean?
Right. They wanted to hate it. It must, they wanted to hate it. But I feel like that's with, and with a lot of things, like, we discussed this at length. The same motherfucker reviewing Citizen Kane should not review goddamn Joe Dirt. Like, there's no reason that Joe Dirt has an 11% on Rotten Tomatoes. That makes me furious. Comedies are, comedies are completely different when it comes to actual race.
And I think that's good.
I want that to last forever.
I want that to last for as long as possible.
I don't want us to be art.
I don't want us to be consumed and have formulas that this writer can point to,
and they can say this is what it is, and this is what they're doing right,
and this is what they're doing wrong.
You can never make comedy into a formula.
No, but what you're saying is, and it's what I'm talking about,
is that the motherfucker that comes in judges' comedy brings the jazz mentality to it.
The original jazz mentality or the highbrow.
They bring a very highbrow thing.
And so, like, they'll sit there and critique a fart joke.
And it's like, buddy, but farts are funny.
I don't give fuck what you.
That's so funny.
They're so goddamn fun.
I just started chuckling thinking about a fart.
Like, I read a review on the, when Blazing Saddles, well, I didn't read it when
Blaz and Saddles first came out, but I read a review from back then that was just like, you know,
the movie was great.
But then there's this fart scene just really, they relied on farts.
I'm like, fucking fuck you, man.
It seems hilarious.
I want to say real quick, though, because I agree with you completely.
and that was part of what I was getting at.
But the other part of what I was...
Did it feel good?
God, that was something.
I also am talking about,
and I'm having a hard time expressing myself with this one is
the idea of like comedy being discussed in certain circles.
I'm thinking specifically like super, super rich people like on the Upper East Side
and $400 million dollars.
Did you see the new Louis C.K?
You know, color me a radical.
That scares me.
Because the New Yorker ain't funded.
for fuck.
Yes.
And that's what they think humor is.
And that's fine.
I want them to have their humor.
But they have their own shit already.
I hope they do.
Exactly.
They do.
And keep it.
Keep your own shit, God damn it.
I mean.
But they're still reviewing Kat Williams.
That same motherfucker.
I don't know how much that really happens.
I agree with you, Trey.
I don't think it happens.
If we keep calling it art, though.
Because they're too good for it.
Yes.
That's why.
Yes.
Unless we keep calling it art and we keep calling Louie and Art tour.
And he keeps winning fucking a,
awards and people keep realizing
I'm about to really say
I know that we're the best goddamn artist on the
goddamn planet by God.
Last bashing of free speech, baby, you're right, fuck everybody else.
But when they start to realize that it's going to get lifted
up and that's great, but then there's going to be
shit that comes along with that. So we don't need to release this
podcast. We need to keep this under our
everybody. Well, I was
about to say, I'm a total hypocrite.
Yeah, me too. Like, I want me
to get on and get up. All the great reviews.
Don't tell them you're bigger than Jesus,
don't give it away. I'm trying to
I also want to say, I had this conversation with Harrison and his buddy Jeff on their podcast.
Let's talk about sets.
That's it.
And Jeff said that.
Jeff McBride, I thought he said something along these lines.
And I thought it wasn't really smart.
He said, I don't think they can do that to comedy because we can keep adapting.
And he pointed out, he said, you have pointed out that they did that with jazz music.
But with other types of music, they tried to do that.
And then music kept changing.
Like as soon as, you know, uncool.
people got a hold of a certain kind of rap,
rap came out with a new type of rap.
As soon as, you know, uncool, rich people got a hold of rock and roll,
they came out with a new type of rock and roll.
And I thought that was a good point.
Like, you can keep adapting.
Yeah, and we also are just going to stay not giving a fuck.
Right.
Well, on that note, one thing...
You mean comedians?
Yeah.
Are we?
I'm telling about...
Are we?
Because a lot of comedians seem to be given a lot of fucks these days.
Case and point to three in this room.
Right, talking about this.
Hold on.
I was actually just about to say, one thing...
thing I really enjoy
ever since all this has happened
at our live shows is when I do
any of my material that's about
butt holes or things like that.
Yeah. I got plenty of that too.
Sometimes in certain crowds,
it's maybe all in my head.
Y'all know how we be.
But I get this feeling that there's definitely people
that are like, this is not what
I thought this was going to be.
I thought he was going to be up here being,
you know, redneck Mort Saul
or whatever.
And I'm talking.
I'm talking about buttholes, which I don't just talk about buttholes, everybody.
It comes through the show.
But anyway, but I really like that, though.
I like, anytime I do it, I kind of feel that, like, it makes me, it makes me smile or laugh.
You just got one on them.
To have these people come and expect me to do this, like, social commentary and stuff,
and then, and then just bust out some butthole stuff.
It was over it.
Earlier when we were at lunch, just cracked me the fuck up.
This girl came up to us at last.
lunch and we were sitting at the table just yelling at each other and we look up and there's this
girl sitting there and she goes um i'm so sorry to interrupt but tray i just want to let you know
how important i think your words are like she was just a fan that saw us at lunch five seconds
before she walked up and told tray how important when she got there she heard you all we were
we were yelling at me because i wouldn't get hammered with him and we were talking about cheese
and just cussing each other and he's sitting there going this is what you goddamn do you go on vacation
to get fucked up men don't run when i
I want to burn with you.
Oh, hey, how are you doing?
You're a hero.
You're a story.
Your words are so important.
It's like, oh, yeah, did you like it last week when I farted into the microphone for you?
Did you hear Mr.
Butt?
I feel about Mr. Butts' words.
Well, that's true.
We all three have a different version of that.
I think with Corey, you have a joke, and I think I referenced it, maybe even last week,
you have a joke where you're commenting on what dating used to be like.
And part of that commentary is to, if you're going to do it on.
honestly is to fucking dive in the rapy situations.
Yeah, the joke goes as far back as to back in the day.
You know, if you want to start a family, you just grab a club, hit the woman over the head, drug her back to the cave.
That's how you did it.
And sometimes our audience acts as if you are celebrating that.
Yeah.
I wish we could go back or something.
And you're not at all.
Yeah, because they don't fucking get nuance.
God damn it.
I get that shit with my dog's material all the time.
And then I have a joke that ever since Trump got elected is not hitting.
It hit super hard before that where I'm just shitting on liberals.
in general for being so me all the time and telling on everybody it used to crush
because we weren't the victims when we thought we were going to win the election people were like
oh my god we are like that it's so funny to laugh at us and literally ever since he won yeah it's
not that i get crickets but it's like huh it's almost like don't don't do that man come on we're
wounded or whatever anyway i think i think we will keep doing that i just like to worry about shit
i'm sorry guys no me too just don't call it all right
art and but privately we're yeah no it's totally hard we're the artist we're the only artist left i mean i
want to be celebrated of course no i do too but as an artist as an artist as an artist as an artist for time
and memorial yeah we have not we can end on this we have not done of this week and running in like a month
that's true and we've been running we were on air last week and it made some people very yeah sorry
sorry for us eating on the podcast last week i'm not sorry i'm a goddamn artist
that's true i thought that would hit harder i'm upset
we've ruined in uh we've ruined in wisconsin today which means uh one thing
cheese cheese cheese curds cheese out the butt cheese curds
beer cheese soup i ate fish i've been trying to be a pescatarian much to the
entertainment of these two i didn't say a goddamn word to you i'm actually a good friend
when it comes to stuff like that i didn't say shit to him either because you're too busy
because you know why you didn't it's hard to yell at him when you're fucking staring me down
going you fucking piece of shit and he did when i did when i
first brought up he goes oh yeah how's that going
yeah but that's because i know that you know you like
bacon and shit too but like i'm not gonna shit i'm never gonna shit on him for
getting a salad because that's on brand for him remember like the reason i shit on you for
not running is because you the fucking chose you're supposed to burn he's supposed to eat
fucking salad this is literally what was happening when the waitress when that girl not the
waitress that girl i think that you're a big inspiration in your words and that was sweet
i'm not making fun of her and you were literally yelling that at core
Yeah, and my thing is like, stand by.
Eat bacon, God, dammit.
I think you're a hero.
I think, like, I really am trying to, I'm trying to lose weight, and I'm trying to get better,
and Trey just will not have it.
No.
You know what, this also reminds me of a little bit?
Y'all were hammered during this podcast, but you were talking to Bryson.
We were doing the second version of the Dreams thing, and you were telling me how you're
doing better since we started hit, and you really, because I was commenting that you were
one of those people where you really needed this.
You couldn't really function without being able to do it.
what it is you wanted to do and what you're born to do.
Sure.
Now that you have, you're doing better.
You, Trey, were not having it.
Do you remember that?
I stand by that.
You got a fucking boy in you?
I stand by that.
He is so much happier than he was.
He's still a broken person.
Okay, well, that night you were saying that you were...
All I was saying was...
All I was saying was...
You can be broken and happy.
You can accept that you're broken.
Yeah, I am.
Here's what I was saying that being able to become a
professional comedian...
He doesn't know.
He don't want me to be happy.
No.
God damn it.
You're just like my real dad.
I'm just kidding.
Anyway, I was saying
it's not some cure-all or whatever
getting to do what you want to do for a living.
Of course.
There's other things you have to...
Just for me.
You said...
I was for me.
I said it and he agreed with me.
That's all I needed.
I said it and he agreed with me
and I didn't see it was all he needed.
I said it was pretty much a cure all of him.
I fucking stand by that.
Corey's life...
Listen, the fact that you didn't give a shit
how bad Corey was doing
before this Toray, that's on you.
I never said...
I never fucking...
Did you guys hear his high-five me,
we're all doing better.
Drew did used to call me all the time.
I'm doing infinitely fucking better.
Drew would call me all the time and I'd cry to him.
I wasn't saying Corey wasn't doing better.
That night in the room, he said it was a cure off of me
and I'm fine now and I said, bro.
Lakers got Lonzo Ball.
Nobody who lives the way you live is fucking fine.
That's all I was saying.
The only thing I was saying, and I stand by that.
Okay, the only thing I was saying and I stand by this.
And it applies to be too.
The only thing I was saying, and I stand by this, is that Corey's happy now.
But that's the thing.
You go, nobody, let's say that's true.
Nobody that lives.
And it's only because of what's going on.
It's because he wanted this, and it's also what he needed more than anything to be happy.
But what's funny is you're like, nobody that lives like you could truly be fucking happy.
And then I try to live better, and you're just like, yeah.
Misery loves company, God damn it.
You're such a fat sack of shit.
Yeah.
I am.
The last time he said that phrase to me, he then choked on a cold,
but he was eating over my seat at 2 a.m.
Thank you for joining us this week on the Well-Rat podcast.
We've got to go on stage and make a hit.
We'll see y'all next time.
Love you, bye.
Ski-oo!
Ooh, that was loud.
Thank you all for listening to the Well-Red show.
We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go.
Tune in next week if you got nothing to do.
Thank you, God.
Goodnight and Skew.
