wellRED podcast - #228 - Tushar's Dinner With Alex Jones

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

fellow comedian and buddy extraordinaire Tushar Singh fills in for Drew drop this week and catches us up on a dinner he had with America's least favorite conspiracy nut bag! wellREDcomedy.com for tickets to shows!

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Yeah. And they're just having a good time. And especially like July 4th in San Diego, like every third person has like a American flag bikini. And you're like, fucking, all right. Even in San Diego, like I thought that was just a us thing. No, that's a military town. Oh, yeah. You're right.

You right. You right. Yeah. Hey, this is too sharp saying everybody. You know him. You love him. The Indian outlaw himself has returned. is traveling or some such.

He's doing some shit. He'll be back. Anyway, two shars here. Yeah. Oh, there you are, Toshar. Two shards back, everybody. Oh, you're in Alabama. See, I never know with you. You're a trailblazing fella. You're in San Diego. You're back in New York. You're in California.

You're, now you're back in Alabama. You're your mama? Mama house. I'm with my mama here for a week and then going up to Jersey for a wedding and then doing Mugubis at Baltimore. more and then I'm going to be out in LA the first week of August Trey oh really so let's hang well we are too yeah to be there the first week

August yeah yeah I am we're going to be out there uh we can say it it's fine yeah we're going to be shooting some more comedy central sketches that week so we'll be kind of you know busy especially during the day because typically when we do those they're like it's like 12 hour days but I mean still it's supposed to be like two two of those days that week. So some other, whatever. And obviously, I'll be here. Yeah.

The whole time, you know. Yeah. I'm, I'm filming a pilot out there for myself, but it's basically a show where I interview someone and draw them as I interview them. Okay. That's pretty sweet. Yeah.

For those that don't know, Tuchars, pretty handy with the pencils. Are pencils your medium? I don't know shit about art. Do you use pencils or two? Charcoal. I use charcoal and pastels. And I'm starting to mess with paint. How do you determine that what you use primarily?

I mean, for something like this, I got to use something that I'm like comfortable with. I'd like to ideally use paint. But there is a true hierarchy of like, oh, you use acrylic paint. You ain't shit. There's like in art. There's also a oil painting like the top of the heat.

Oil paint is the hardest because it takes the longest to draw. there's it's less forgiving in terms of like how to do it you have to wait after every what's the prop comic of of painting or prime is that is that acrylic I guess it would just be yeah I guess acrylic or finger painting yeah right but drawing fall on the art spectrum I mean when you ask real artists they're like they're like no anything man you just you just connect with the thing so real artists usually like it's indifferent to them it's like how what your approaches. Well, yeah, please let me go back on saying, like, I, I said that because that's just the, the general, like, consensus. If you're a carrot tops amazing, like, I couldn't follow him in

dream. I didn't mean that. But, like, people are like, oh, you know, puppeteers, moms, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, yeah, if anything done well, who gives the shit? Right, right, right, right. But yeah, it starts with pencil and paper and then you work your way up to, like, charcoal maybe, and there's, there's pastels, there's water color, there's, I mean, it's a whole, it's a whole world. Hobby Lobby ain't around just for no reason. Like those aisles all have their own like world. Are you plugged into all that? I'm starting to, man.

It's like it's just a whole other universe where I feel like, I feel like an open micer. I'm just like, what? What's this? And what's this? And so you know like artists and stuff? You got like artist buddies now? I'm starting to, yeah, find some buddies who are artists and they're wise.

What is that like? Yeah. I don't know any like, because we're not artists. No, well, it's like visual. Visual art, but even like, yeah, right. Like, it's always, I would never know exactly how to put this because, yeah, I mean, I do think comedians are artists and writing artists and all that. But like, we're not just like, you know, regular artists. Art. Art.

Museum stuff. Like, yeah, they draw all shit. Yeah, yeah. Those type of sculpts. Like you don't go to a museum and press a button and hear a Brian Rigan joke. You know what I mean? Not yet, buddy. Not yet, but yeah.

So, and I don't know any, I don't think, of those types of artists. So I hope somebody doesn't hear this. It's a friend of mine and get insulted because they do that shit. But yeah, other than you, Tushar. Yeah. What are, what's that like hanging out with them? There are what, I mean, I think. Generalize them.

Yes. Generalize. Hey, paint them with a broad brush. There you go. Nice. They, they're typically like, I mean, they spend a lot. a lot of time alone, right? Yeah. Because they have to by nature.

That's how heroin works. So they're kind of like writers in that sense where they, they, whenever I meet them, they're letting loose or they're like a bartender and they're, you know, it's kind of the same game. But a lot of them are, you know, artists are met like they like getting fucked up. Most of them are podheads, like from what I can tell. I know a handful. I met a few in New York.

And the cool thing about art is there's no limitation. Meaning like if you go like the first time I ever went into an art class was in New York, the student art league. And I walk in and it's like just a drawing class, like basics of drawing. And I was so disoriented because I walk into this, this large studio and there's two, there's two little stages set up. And then easels all around each one. And there's music playing and there's like a hippie-dippy lady.

And then like the teacher was just like really cool laid back dude. look clearly stone and people are just setting up they're setting up their thing they're they're waiting for this show thing to start and uh and he was and i was like where do i set up because i didn't know what was going on and the teacher was like okay the long form's over here the short forms over here and i was like just pick short form because you're starting so i sat down and then um and then he was like all right class is ready to start models and these two people came out of the back in robes and one look yeah It must have been a 260 pound black lady. She comes and pops herself in the long form.

And then there's just like a homeless looking dude. I think they're both probably borderline homeless like of, I guess doing that. And they just, they sat. And the short form, the guy held the poses for 10 seconds, 20 seconds,

30, one minute, one minute, one minute, two minutes, three minutes. And the goal there is you have to capture that person in that form. So they're naked.

which is kind of alarming if you've never been in that environment. And they'll just hold a form like this. And then you draw it quickly and then change, draw. And in the long form, the lady just kind of picked a pose that everyone kind of liked and then just had to hold it for three hours with breaks and stuff. But in the class itself, there's these like the range of people and the personalities.

It's kind of all over. It's like super old people who are just crushing it and knocking these things out quickly. And then there's like young business people who are giving a shot. So the cool thing about art is it's somewhat like comedy, but comedy weeds you out pretty quickly. But it's like it doesn't anyone who's the demographics and the range is so it was like beautiful. Like it was just all types of people. You think you think comedy weed you out quicker than like drawing shit like that because I feel like you could just draw at home and get good at it.

Comedy you need to get passed by your friends, passed by the club, passed by yourself. Like you need to have the material. Like eventually it could. weed you out, I guess. But I just feel like if you go on stage and you're just like, man, whatever, it could still be like, well, you know, he did okay, but that was kind of, that was, that was borderline passable. But like, you know, if you really suck at drawing a fat, naked black lady, like, that's

going to, you know, like, that's going to stick out. You know what I'm saying? Like that's, why do they always have to be naked too? Like, that's just such a cliche. You see in, like sitcoms like, you know, Will Ferrell walks in, unrobes himself and they're nude, but like, but that's real. Like that's, it's real. I mean, I, I had hit me.

I was just like, what the hell? And I wanted to giggle because I'm a child. I was like, yeah, there you get. And then after about an hour of that, you're just like, okay, I got to, I got to practice. Like there's a whole set of things to learn. And when you're when you're doing quick form, you have to, there's proportions that are like mathematically. This, this area to this area to this is always in thirds. Right.

And every human face. There's ratios where the end of the lips always hit the middle of the eyes. There's like, you know, there's just things that you can do. and you have to build it in layers. Like it's not just going to come out like a printer, right? So like the whole game is to learn like the proportions of the body where the skeleton like lays over. And I took some comics in there once like a couple of comics on my birthday. And it was really fun because just to have their commentary while doing it and just being uncomfortable.

It's just pretty fun to do. Are people watching you while you're drawing this? Yeah. I mean, people behind you. Like it's just seated. It's just people are sitting. and then there's like a couple of people always kind of wandering around and taking break. So it's like a vulnerability.

Yeah, because I was about to say like, obviously people are watching me when I'm telling my jokes, but I don't like it if people are watching me while I'm sitting there trying to write them. You know what I'm saying? Like that's a little bit different of a situation for sure. Right. How big of a part of it is or how much have you ran into? I feel like a lot of people, myself included, I'm guilty of this, have this part of the stereotype of like art, you know,

So even the way I said it, art is art is like, there was a story recently. Me and Mark covered it on weekly skews. It's this some big artist, his latest piece sold for like $75,000. No, it was me and Corey. I was about saying, yes, I was about saying. I was guest hosting for Mark. Some big artist, his latest piece sold for like $75,000 or something like that. And it was an invisible sculpture.

It was literally physically nothing. Nothing. Nothing there. Nothing. Like, this is an invisible sculpture. It is what your mind's eye makes it. And you couldn't just buy it for $75,000. You had to commit, like, sign of paper committing to all these, like,

rules of ownership, which was like, it must always be displayed in a four by four empty space or whatever. So it's, so that it every, it's, the experience is equivalent for everyone or whatever like that. But it's like, but physically speaking, it's literally. Ideally, you would imagine it up my own butt, because. because that's where I created it. Yes.

That type of shit I think of when I think of like high- Christ suspended in piss. That's where my brain immediately goes. There was another one that was like a banana peel nailed to the wall. Yeah. It was like $150,000 or something. That's a real example. What's that a commentary on?

Fuck if I, consumerism probably. I don't know. God damn, Chiquita. You know, slapstick. comedy the death of it right but the thing is well like i think of that type of shit when it comes like high end art especially and i'm just wondering how i don't know i mean i imagine if you're in a room with like a thousand pieces of thing art you've made with different mediums and you're like i'm trying to push the limit and myself i mean there's only a matter of time before

you go kind of kuku and you're like this is an invisible like it just turns to that and Yeah, but more importantly, give you $85,000 for it. Who's the sole person? The craziest thing about art, you know, NFTs and just this whole new world of like digital art is like, it effectively is a tax haven for drug cartels,

rich people. And it's, I didn't know that. That's a longstanding thing though, like art is one of the best ways for high, because you can just say what, like the mafia shit. They've all,

art has been a money laundering shit thing for like a really long time. Because you can just say, this was worth, I paid this much. $80 million. Right. And instead of having to fuck with $80 million, you've got a painting in a warehouse or whatever. And it holds his value as long as you're willing to hold value.

And then with NFTs, like digital art where people can just transfer money digitally, that is becoming like it's now opened up the world to anyone globally who is trying to clean their money. Like there's no better way to sell a couple pieces of art and flush out a couple million. but that's what I'm trying to do. Trying to become part of the drug dealing via art, eventually. Sure. I take their money,

hell. We talked about NFTs briefly on here before Corey and Drew were trying to explain them to me and I could have just went. No, no, no, hold on just a second. I wasn't trying to explain shit to you. I don't know a goddamn thing about him. Drew was trying to explain it.

For the record, I never went back and checked. I guarantee you that motherfucker was at least three-fours wrong about everything he said. I didn't check, double-check any of. I could have easily just looked it up, but I never did. just carried on living my life, generally speaking, but now that you're here too far. As we do with information that we all the time, usually, most of the time.

I honestly, now that you're here, can you explain those? I'm going to give it a shot, but I really, I don't understand it more than its part. It uses blockchain technology. You definitely understand it more than Drew. So let's just get that shit out of the way. So with, with blockchain technology and for, for, for that new kind of emerging thing that's happened with money, it's, it could be applied to. art in the sense of like any digital piece of art can be converted to a non-fungible token.

And I actually set one up through mint table or mint or something. And essentially, if I make a piece of art, let's say I drew Corey's grandma, right? So I have this piece of art that I can take a picture of. I can upload it to this exchange and basically put it for auction. I have the option of doing one copy or like, five or 10 copies. I can make any number of copies I want. And essentially, because you can track it and trace it because of the technology, you're, you can sell and trade it. And the cool part about it is as an artist, you can get 10% or whatever percent you set of its perpetual

sales lifetime. Like if, but what if they did? So somebody could screenshot that shit and then that doesn't count. That doesn't count. Like it's verified by the token. Right. Okay. You can take a screenshot. It'll just be out there. You can. You can upload a YouTube and put it on this thing. But at the end of the day, like this will allow you. It's like a digital certificate of authenticity or something. Exactly. I mean, that's no, it's perfect way.

And you, the artist, determine there are five of these in existence. Or there's five in existence. Or there's 25 or whatever. Yeah. So, and I'm selling one for 10,000. I'm selling two for auction. I'm keeping one forever. Well, that wasn't that hard to explain.

I feel like I kind of get it now. Yeah. And Drew said none of that. He's like it. was a hologram of Chadwick Bozeman on a little quarter that you put on the table. It could literally be. I can't. And that's not even a, there's, he was way wronger than what even Trey just said.

Like, hey, it was just nonsense for 30 minutes and you just did it in 30 seconds. It doesn't matter what the piece is. It could be a hologram. Could be a squiggle on a Microsoft paint. It could be a picture of a thing that you took. It doesn't matter what it is. It's as long as it's a digital thing, it's irrelevant. it's what it's like it's like it enables basically artists to to not get fucked when their piece sells

for $10,000 and someone turns around sells it for $100 million. You know, I'll get 10% of that $100 million technically from this thing. But also it's a bubble like supposedly everything's like a bubble. So this will collapse soon or it's already collapsed. But it's exciting, I think. Now that I've figured out what they are, it's definitely about to collapse. That was the, that's what the industry needs. I know.

Yeah, that same thing with Bitcoin. I found out about it. And they were just like, all right, it's not cool anymore. I do remember Drew, again, he did not make it make sense whatsoever.

No, he made it more confusing. I do remember him saying something like, he was like the first, like big example of this, but they weren't even calling it that at the time was that Wu-Tang album that got sold to that. Oh,

yeah, yeah. Martin Screlly, that awful pharmaceutical dickbag. And that is, that is what that is, right? That wasn't an NFT.

That was, the rights to the album. But isn't it like, isn't that essentially the same concept? They were like it exists, but there's just this one copy and it goes to whoever buys it, you know what I mean? And there are no other

copies or whatever. I mean, the... Oh, good. God damn. Fucking Alabama. What happened? Oh, you're good now. You're back, baby. You're back. My last time he froze up, you disappeared. But you're all right now.

Anyway, yeah, I don't, I'm not sure about the Wu-Ting thing. I think that. It's maybe similar. I don't know if it's part of this technology or not. I definitely don't think it is. I think it pretty safe technology. I feel like it's more the general concept of it type of thing. Like, could you do that with a comedy special,

but you probably wouldn't want to, right? I don't know. You know, like the way Louie and so many other comics and Corey's done it where you put, you know, post your own special and just directly sell it. But you want to sell as many copies of that as possible. Yeah, yeah.

That's the thing. You want to keep, you want to keep now. You want everyone to hear that. that material. That's true, but if I put out an album and some dumb fuck, like Martin Screlli was like, hey, I'll give you a million dollars and nobody else can hear these jokes. I'd be like, all right, cool. I'll write some new shit. You know, I'll have fun, buddy. Yeah, buddy. I'll go buy a pontoon boat and write me another hour. Well, arguably, I know, you'd have to, I'm sure it would have to be part of the deal that you couldn't tell those jokes anymore. I was going to say it's like,

you know, it's kind of like you get paid for a special, but you get to keep doing the Yeah, that would hit. I'm sure Screlly wouldn't have that. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, he's actually not a dumb fuck. The whole purpose. Yeah. Right, for sure. I mean, you probably retool them somehow.

I don't know, but I'm just saying like, even if, but here's the deal. Even if that wasn't the case, I can tell you right now, if I wrote a new hour and some dude was like, I'll give you a million dollars for that. Only I can hear it. I'd absolutely, you know, I'd be like, hell yeah. I mean, like a million bucks, one shot. and I'll never be criticized for it. You know what I mean?

And you can still work it on the road? No, even if I couldn't do that. I feel like you couldn't. No, but I'm saying though, a million dollars, that gives me the freedom to go write a new act. And again, like I ain't got to- Are you saying you've explored no other options? Oh, you're saying like if it was between that and or Netflix wants to give you the special.

This guy comes to you first and you're not even allowed to try to shop it around us. Yeah, then I'd do it for a million dollars. Then I think I'm, yeah, I'm with you on that. But if it was like, if you had like options, even if the money was significantly less, I think it might still be worth more money in the long. Of course. If it was a banger and Netflix was going to give me a special,

then like that to me would be worth me because I'm like, if I get this on Netflix and it's as good as I think it is, I'll turn that into a million dollars. But if it was just blinded it, like I just read this new act, somebody can't, they're like, take it or leave it right now. I genuinely, Like, there's no way I wouldn't because I'd be like fucking, I'll take this million and then I can just go back on the road.

Dude, you know, like with a million dollars, I don't even have to book a lot of shit. I can just take the year off to go do every fucking every night, dive bar, work in every room, get a new hour. You know, I'm in. Like, of course I'd do it. But yeah, like you said, if it was like that or Netflix, no, I wouldn't. But like, that'd be fucking hard to turn down. For sure. No, I'm with you.

I agree. That will never happen. because I don't, it don't ever have, I don't think any, I don't think there's any comedian like the Wu-Tang clan, you know what I mean, that that would be attractive to be about it. I literally think like,

it had to be like Chappelle or Louie or Bill Burr or someone like that. And fucking those guys get 20, they wouldn't do it from regular Netflix. Yeah, they wouldn't do it. I don't know, man, you guys, Al Gore is your fan. I mean, people like that out there who buy some. I don't know how much.

I will give you one million dollars just so no one has to hear this. And again, I can see that. I could see that. Well, hey, before we get into the next thing, which I'll go ahead and tease right now,

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Well fuck let's let's get into it Speaking of racism Racism Toshar You and by the way I had to fill the group in on this because you I don't know if you were like,

let me have this experience first, but like I found out through, you know, our manager, Nat, she hollered at me. She's like, by the way, I don't know if you know this,

but Tushar is about to have dinner with the one and only, Alex Jones. And I was like, motherfucker, what. So please, please,

please, in as excruciating detail as you can, we want to know what led up to this experience. And we want to know what that experience was like. So like, a gosh who's a co-host of the flagrant two podcast he's uh he's my brother he's he's I've known him for forever and he's been I pretty much like stay with him he just got an apartment in Manhattan they came the podcast came back from Miami so uh I'm really close to him and his wife and

it's very like a brotherly thing um so I stay since I'm homeless right now I stay between my sister's place in Princeton and crash with them in Manhattan and um we had come back from, I think, Kansas City that weekend for a weekend of shows. And I was planning to leave on Monday, go back to Princeton, but I decided to stay for another night. And he calls around three when they had Alex Jones on the podcast for the second time. And the first time got flagged by YouTube and taken down and it went viral pretty much. What did he say? What did Alex Jones say?

Yeah, yeah. On the first podcast, he pretty much said the vac, and this is like November, he's like the vaccine. gives you the C word. Like within the first few minutes, you basically like the back team gives you cancer. Oh, okay. All right. Cuter.

No, no. So basically because of that, YouTube flagged it, took it down. They thought about reposting or whatever. I think there's like pieces out in the world, but the whole episode is not out anymore. So they're like, let's have them back. Smart move, obviously, on their end to have someone like that back on the,

on the podcast. And so he calls around three or four. He's like, yo, you want to come to dinner with us? And I was like, yeah, I mean, that's an experience that I'm not going to forget. And they're going to go to some steakhouse, Wolfgang Pucks downtown Tribeca. Is Alex Jones buying? I don't know any of that. I know, I know just I'm not buying at the end.

Yeah, you're not. You're not. Yeah, right. And so I, so me and gosh's wife, we're both like we plan to come down there. The dinner is at like nine. We don't get there until super late. because women be getting ready. They do.

And also shopping. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was, it was kind of, I don't, did you guys watch the actual podcast episode? No, no. I didn't even know that's what I didn't. I don't think I knew the context. No, me either. I was waiting to talk to you.

So for the, for the, for you guys in the, I was listening, pause right now. Go check out another three hour podcast. But they had Alex Jones on the Flagrant 2 podcast and that thing went wild. I mean, he is one of. Really? I mean, he's just a wild, wild kid and it just doesn't, it's just, that whenever he's on, they kind of let him loose and they're not trying to fact check him or fight him. They basically get him fucked up and they let him go and he goes wild with him.

I love that you're acting like, they decided to do something different with Alex Jones. Yeah. Take a slightly different approach. Yeah, everybody else always raining Alex Jones. And we're just going to get. No, but I'm saying like. No, but I'm saying like when he's, I don't know, I haven't watched him too much. I've seen him on Rogan, I think, and I've seen him.

But like, usually I imagine when he's on. The man's got one speed too, Shars, what I'm trying. And I think it's literally speed. Yeah. He's, so he, he, he's this, he's just character of a person. And on, on their podcast specifically, they, they basically are. are laughing with him and at him. And he's like at the core.

And they talk about this on their podcast. Like he's a comedian. Like if he didn't veer into this, whatever the hell he represents. Like he had at his core, he's an entertainer with funny thoughts. And if he just, I gosh,

said this well. He's like, if you just scale it back like 20% and add a few tags, you are one of the, you know, best working comics around. Right. If you scale it back 20%

at a few tags. and also don't try to pretend like this very, very dangerous shit that you're saying is real. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Because like, like, here's the deal. When you, when you, when I found out that you were having dinner with Alex Jones and Alex Jones is doing a podcast, I was like, fuck yeah, that's awesome. Here's where my maybe, I guess, woke hypocrisy comes in.

If I found out some of my white buddies were going to dinner with Alex Jones and having him on their podcast. I'd be like, are y'all fucking serious right now? You know what I'm saying? Like, because like, it'd be like,

at what point are we just perpetuating his bullshit and giving him a platform? But admittedly, because you're brown, I'm like, you're allowed. You know what I mean? Like,

you can do it. It's fine. I don't think it, for me, it has nothing to do with, uh, two shards brownness. First time for everything,

right? I'm just trying to like, I'm just trying to like, I'm just trying to be upfront with where I'm at. Like, I like, because it's, I have to constantly remind myself where Alex Jones is concerned that somehow it boggles my mind, but somehow...

People listen to him. A great many people like sincerely listen to him and take him seriously. And that changes everything because I have to remind myself of that. Because when I listen to him, like I listen to him on Rogan and stuff like that, I'm cracking up. I'm laughing. Dying laughing. He is funny. I'm like, dude, this one fucker is a lunatic like in a entertainment.

like I laugh at it because to me it's like no one can ever possibly take this shit seriously. This motherfucker is wild and just like sheer entertainment value and I enjoy it. And almost to the point where it's like, goddamn, am I a fan of Alex Jones? Right, right, right, right. But a fan of his like, I'm a fan of how fucking. You're a fan of Alex Jones the same way that you're a fan of the diehard franchise, purely for an entertainment purpose. Right.

And so, and like when people talk about Joe Roe, or whoever, like, platforming him and stuff like that. My knee-jerker action is to get defensive because I'm like, dude, listen to the shit he's saying. But, like, but people do. It's the same way with Trump. It's fucking Trump, man. And so I have to always remind myself of that because, like, it blows my mind that that is the case, but it is the case. And so it's like, you know, it changes the flavor of how you look at the guy, in my opinion.

I mean, in an ideal sense, he would go away in his kind of, what's the worst? Venomous thoughts would kind of erode. But he's so good at entertaining. Yeah. Just being in a room, entertaining. And he happens to be talking about something that he's very, very, very well versed, educated. He knows all the history. Like, there's no messing with that guy in that department.

it's also complicated too because of this great experiment, you know, that we have called America. And we do have freedom of speech, which obviously, with people confuse with like that. YouTube doesn't, YouTube doesn't. You know what I'm saying? Like America that YouTube doesn't. If YouTube decides as a company that they don't want your shit on there, they are very much allowed to take that shit off. Facebook's same way. Twitter's the same thing.

Anybody that's smart knows that freedom of speech only protects you from the government arresting you for some bullshit. you say unless the thing that you say is threatening a government official or possibly inciting a riot towards a government official or government entity. We all know that. But at the same time, though, you're like, this guy obviously should be allowed to say whatever technically that he wants, but the things that he says are dangerous. And in my opinion, people have been killed because of Alex Jones. I don't know that you can necessarily like go, oh, here's an example of that.

Here's an example of that. but when you look at what happened on January 6th, that was all because of the rhetoric of people like Alex Jones. Now, you flip that shit around, and I say that, and I truly believe that. But to play devil's advocate a little bit, a lot of, you know,

super right-wing Christians go, okay, well, we truly believe that abortion is murder. So when y'all go around saying, hey, woman's right to choose, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, y'all are advocating what we believe is absolutely just as tyrannical of an idea. So should y'all be allowed to say that? And it's Joe Biden not. And obviously that's not fucking true.

I'm just saying like we with dudes like Alex Jones and with me being someone who obviously believes in free speech, you really kind of get into the weeds of like, what the fuck do I believe and how can I make this all make sense to me? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, you're saying that there's there's a counterweight to his. to him. Yeah,

it's like, O.C. or someone who's just like, it's hard. I can't fucking sit here and go, he should have, be put a muzzle on and then go, well,

what about all the stuff? Well, the stuff I believe is fine. But like, it is. No, I'm like, but like where do you fuck it?

Like, there's just, it's just one of them gray areas that like, I don't really know what, I don't know what to do with a guy like that. You know what I mean? And I don't know. The guy,

the guy is, So, like, so we show up to dinner. The dinner started at like nine. We got there at 950. That's a fucking insane Alex Jones thing. Because he's been on fucking crank all day. Yeah. He's just hungry at nine.

And also, like, I'm not trying to cast aspersions on this particular woman, if it was indeed her fault since winning by getting ready. But 50 minutes, that's like, that's a little egregious. Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot. But are you trying to fuck Alex Jones? Put on a sweatshirt. exactly

so like we show up it's in the private room of a private room it's one of those situations and there's uh Alex his wife you think they did that

because they were like okay we'll take Alex Jones's money but we don't want nobody know his asses here so let's put him between this bamboo sheets um no it was actually oddly I don't know probably but

I imagine he can't just be in public he's one of those I'm sure he can't be in regular nature natural setting. And by the time we got there, the food had just literally been brought to the table. And, you know, it's a few people from the podcast. It's like, gosh, it's Andrew and his wife.

And then there's like four or five people who I didn't know. One, I think, ran another podcast. One was a producer guy, but they were kind of on the other side of the table. And, you know, there was nothing. They were clearly beat from the day, like in terms. terms of hanging out with Alex Jones. Yeah, they had a three hour podcast episode. And once again, if you watch it, they were fucked up by the end.

At least, you know, Andrew and Alex were like pretty drunk. They had CBD during the episode. They were like, they were having a good time. And what I liked about the episode itself is that Alex Media, the guy who is their sound kind of engineer guy who's on the thing itself, he kind of starts grilling him about the actual capital riots. and what his part was. And he kind of masterfully swayed in and out of like I was there and I,

and I didn't have anything. And I talked to Trump, but I don't talk to Trump. Like you're just kind of like, yeah, you're part of it. But you seem to cover your bases to protect yourself legally in terms of saying anything. And then during the dinner, it was actually quite chill. Like there was nothing crazy. They talked about the highlights. Like he kept on asking it was like, what do you think the best part of the podcast was?

and kind of a few back and forwards. They talked about Russia and Russian involvement, but that was kind of on the other side of the table. And I didn't say much. Like, I talked to like, gosh, and just lean. Like, I didn't really, like, talk much out loud because I kind of know my place in that room. Like, I'm not trying to be loud.

But it was just, this is just incredible view to watch someone like Andrew Schultz, who's a Goliath in our little comedy world. Oh, yeah. And then Alex Jones sitting next to them. And they're both kind of holding. court and they're they're sparring back and forth in terms of like making fun of each other and we talked about a cautious wedding which is this weekend and uh how alex needs to come and stuff like that so it was like it was like you i didn't know what to expect i didn't think he'd be

like a wild crazy guy and then setting like that and he wasn't he was just kind of a and he has his wife there so he was kind of chilled out which is because it's he wasn't on you know what i mean he wasn't on on yeah like that guy kind of yeah because there's always been part of me that feels like that part where you said the guy's an entertainer. And by the way, that doesn't, none of that justifies any of the shit that he does. Like it doesn't, you know, like, you know, we said with Trump, people were like, oh, he's not really racist. He just says all those things because he knows it appeals to the basis.

Like, well, dude, if you pretend to be a racist, you're a racist at the end of the day, like that doesn't, you know, I don't mean that for like Archie Bunker, like that guy was literally acting as a character to show. But like, at the end of the day, if you say these things, those things hold the way. But there's part of me that has kind of always felt like with Alex Jones that like, He says those fucking crazy things like, you know, they put stuff in the water to make the frogs gay so they can make a, like, I'm like, he says all that stuff so that later when he, you know, tries to stoke the fire of an insurrection, he can be like, yeah, I say a lot of shit. You know what I mean? I'm also the guy who said, uh, that, that birds aren't real.

You know what I'm saying? So like, what does it really matter? His main, from what I could tell, just listening to these few interviews is like, his main thing is whenever you turn to him and he's like, hey, why are you saying these things against these minorities or whatever? He'll turn it into the globalists are after everyone. Yeah. Right. He'll just turn it to the globalists.

And then you can't argue with that. It's a good argument. The globalists are to some degree doing the things that he's saying. So he's so good at crafting an argument in that thing and getting you kind of like, okay, okay, I see where you're going. And then he'll take a weird right turn. And you're like, oh, okay. But I don't know. My understanding of his whole deal that I've read before is that, like, there's usually the tiniest little, like, kernel of some kind of truth or accuracy to, like, where he begins, you know, whatever argument he's making.

Like, it's based on something. And I don't know what, but, like, even the fucking gay frogs. There's probably some kind of chemical that got spilled that, like, changed the sex of certain species. species of frogs or something like that, you know, like I mean, hell in Jurassic Park. Yeah. But then it's like they're doing it on purpose because they don't want to reproduce.

A documentary Jurassic Park. Yeah. Natural life finds away. Something like that may exist. I don't know. And then like, but taking that and turning it into the part of this like, you know, far flung insane conspiracy theory.

He just takes shit and just goes fully off the rails with it, you know, which again, it's like to me entertaining because I don't even come close to taking any of it seriously. But I just, I know that a lot of people do, which is so wild. Well, the thing is too is like, he says some things that are like true, but it's like, yeah, but they hit the things he's saying, like, they don't hit for him, but they hit for, you know, like, but they're, like, he'll say things like, you know, like, we're turning to a globalist society.

And it's like, yeah, that internet has done that. Like, for sure. Like, you know, with trade and Amazon and like, shit, like, yes, we are. You're right. we are this world is now smaller than it's ever been because we can have constant communication with someone from across the world and you do have to think about things in terms of that but like big businesses have always been globally focused you know what I'm saying like people like big businesses like movies for instance has always been a global thing like these blockbusters like

yes that's true but then he just goes on and screams about it and it's like brother I don't know what the fuck you think what can we do about that and also like it doesn't have to be like why is that 100% a bad thing. And realistically, the reason that they think it's 100% a bad thing is because they are xenophobic assholes. You know what I'm saying? But like globalism at its root isn't, in my opinion, necessarily like just this huge evil thing. I mean, I'm willing to be wrong, I guess. I honestly don't know enough about it. I'm just saying like if just the term, just the term in terms like when people go, oh, we don't take care of our own. first. You know, like that's the constant critique from some people on the right with whenever a

Democratic president is like, oh yeah, they want to go take care of this country and this country and this country. But what about Detroit? And it's like, motherfucker, y'all been in charge for eight years. You didn't do a goddamn thing about Detroit neither. You know what I'm saying? And then the second, you go globalism, globalism, globalism, globalism, globalism. But then when it comes to their fucking whole big business model and they're like, we've got to support Amazon, Amazon's one the most globalist, goddamn institutions in the world. Like to me, all they do with the term globalism is use it to stoke the fire of xenophobic nations. That's all it is.

Yeah, no, I think you're right about that. Yeah, because to me, like, the idea, it would hit if we were like the United Earth Federation or something like that. And that was just one kind of, you know, like in future sci-fi, when humans live on the moon and Mars and stuff like that. And it's like, it's always, it's always they go to like all of Earth is one kind of. There's like a president of Earth. Earth, yeah, yeah. And then there's a consulate of Mars or whatever. Right.

Yeah, yeah. And it's like that, that idea hits for me. That general concept hits for me. One thing can't go to war with itself. Never mind to that. You know what I mean? Right. Like, it seems highly unrealistic because of all the shit you're talking about

and how fired up people get about the very concept that we could get to be that unified. And of course, and this is all the shit with aliens recently, there's some people saying that this is the reason the government's lying about aliens, which I don't buy, but it would have to be some kind of like existential crises that threatens the entire species at once. The only thing that I just watched that movie, The Tomorrow War, and that's kind of...

Did it hit for you? Yeah, it did hit for me. It's a dumb action sci-fi. I like that. I like dumb. I do too. It's like, turn your brain off and enjoy it. Good.

I need that. I liked it. But it's a big plot point in there that this existential threat bans the entire human race together at a certain point. And I do think that that would be... 9-11. But it had to be some real shit. Yeah, but that wasn't the whole human race.

No, no, no. I just mean I've experienced it in a micro sense, is what I'm saying. Yeah, right. And so... Like, I do know that that shit exists. Like outside of something like that. And he would have to be like aliens because a fucking pandemic didn't do it. Didn't even come close.

No. It would have to be like an alien war or some shit. I don't even think that would help at this point. Because again, like what's like the pandemic like was as global. of a crisis is we're ever going to see. It had the opposite effect. If it was aliens, I could see them being like, oh, yeah, good. Now the aliens showed up.

Just one more thing for a Democrat to fucking the butt. I will say, and this is maybe just being too optimistic or something, because, yeah, not a good takeaway from COVID where this argument is concerned. But I do wonder if COVID made it easy for a lot of those people to be that way, in my opinion, meaning like the anti-maskers. And it's because, like, COVID is so. you know, you can get it and be fine. You know what I mean?

You can also get it and fucking die, but you can get it and be fine. And so all these people, all these people do get it and they were fine and they're like, so fucking ain't shit. You know what I mean? Which made it worse. If it was like,

if COVID was like some Ebola shit, like you're fucking throwing your guts out of your mouth the next day, fucking just you exorcist puking fucking blood everywhere and shit, I think it might be a little bit of a different story. This is all that. I know this isn't what you're trying to do. The effect on us that we're talking about where COVID didn't, maybe.

Yeah, I know, I know this isn't really, but what you're trying to say, but when you boil it down, it's funny to think like, if COVID had been worse, it would have ultimately been better. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't know if it would be better, but this idea, this like, what would it take to actually unify us as a species? Ebola.

And we were like, clearly a pandemic doesn't work. And I'm saying, well, maybe a like, if it was a black plague. hard core pandemic. That might, maybe. I don't know, but I mean, it would take something. Yeah, the 50 of us left would repopulate and be cool with each other for a minute, you know. Don't you love the, uh, the Delta variant?

Yeah. It's so funny. That's like they had to rebrand it because the triple mutant Mumbai strain is harder to swallow. Yeah, way harder to swallow. But, okay, I guess the question. Our vaccine still affected? It's like. Yeah.

The vaccine's like 95 plus percent effective on regular COVID, and it's like almost 90% against the Delta variant or whatever. It's like, dude, I'll take that. I'm just trying not to fuck. It does seem better. I hate it. Here's the deal. I haven't heard of,

and I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but like I was starting to, you know, there were a couple months back, like people around here, like it got to Chickamauga, and there were some people dying from Chickamauga. I haven't even heard of anyone.

The Delta variant? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just COVID. But the Delta variant's been out for a minute, right? I heard of someone in San Diego, one of my one of the guys who was, the other guy who traveled from New York,

his cousin's roommate got, she was fully vaccinated and she got the Delta variant. I'll tell you when it'll hit its peak is right when our tour is starting to go well. It's what it'll do. We'll be. No, Corey. I'm just saying like, even though I live in one of the statistically most unvaccinated areas in the country,

I haven't heard. shit about, I haven't heard a COVID case in a while, which is nice. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying it's not happening in other places. Maybe they're just not, but I was hearing it a lot here. And now I'm not. I don't know if like more people were getting vaccinated than what I thought or if it like genuinely had it by now.

Yeah. I mean, I genuinely don't know it just like it feels better, but maybe that's just like me really, really, really, really wanting just like, I, we're over it. I know we're not over it. But like that's, it. does feel like, okay, we're still coming out the other side of this. Even though then I'll turn on the TV, sometimes I'm like, fuck, man, this second wave of the new thing like, like, God damn, I can't say it.

It's going to happen. It's going to pop up again when the weather changes into cold and it's flu season, supposedly. So end of the year, basically. The question, but when that happens, though, if you're vaccinated, the odds are still really good that you're cool, right? And I saw the Fauci said, like, 99 plus percent. of all COVID-related deaths in the past X number months or whatever are unvaccinated people. Like, which, you know, checks out. Yeah.

This weekend, no shit Sherlock news. My whole thing with the fact, like, and I know I'm ignorant and I just don't, there's part, I'm just not understanding part of it. But my whole thing, since the vaccines came out and became widely available, and it's like, oh, well, can people stop wearing masks? Oh, I'm not sure, you know, that whole thing. It's like if you get the vaccine, you know, there's a small chance you can still get it. It should be less harmful if you do.

But I mean, like 90- It doesn't stop you from getting it. The vaccine supposedly doesn't stop you from getting it. It just suppresses all whatever bad outcomes and you get from it. Meaning you can still easily pass it on if you have it with the vaccine. Yeah, right. But if you've got the vaccine, it helps your chances of it not being as bad. when it happens to you.

In other words, fucking get the vaccine. 95% chance, I'm saying. So I'm saying like, and then the people that choose not to get it, they're the only ones that can get it, but they can't give it 95% chance.

They can't give it to us, the vaccinated people, right? So like, I don't know. Just get it. Just get it. Just get the vaccine. For sure,

absolutely 100%. I'm saying, get the fucking vaccine. But I'm saying like as far as getting things back, to normal delta variant and all that shit aside if the vaccine is still effective against that and the vaccine's been available to people people have the option to get it or not at this point and I'm just like let's just fucking go like people like at what point are people you know making their own choice where all this shit is concerned like if you get vaccinated you should

be okay generally speaking so fucking like because otherwise my thing is like I don't even know what we're doing here right with the vaccine and all that shit in the first place like if it doesn't mean that we can get back to normal or something resembling it, then like, what's the fucking point? Right. I don't know. I'm just done.

I'm done too. I'm done too. I'm saying his hair. Get it. Get it. Get it. And let's fucking go. Get it so you can come out and see us.

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