wellRED podcast - #229 - Billionaires In Space: Right or Wrong? or (Could The Beatles Happen Again?)

Episode Date: July 14, 2021

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There was pain and stride. This really hit for me. This was my creative decision. Did he may not get who was saying that? Nobody said anything shitty. So. But since I joined the end of our next year. I can get near anything.

So come and see us in Birmingham. Call a sitter, make a special plan We're at the start of on the edge of town We'll have some laughs and a couple rounds Bring your wife for your special slain I promise I won't say anything I will tell jokes again What was that shirt?

That was the heartbreak kid, Sean Michaels And dad didn't really get, yeah, start on July 23rd and 24th. Dad didn't get enough of a shot of my belly. And this is going to be, this is not going to surprise either one of y'all. Me and dad almost gotten a fight over creative differences during this video. I was going to ask you that exact question. So, yeah, elaborate, please.

Well, I mean, it was, it was ultimately fine, especially for a fight between me and dad and how that normally goes. But like, you know, I went into it with a vision. he went into it with his own vision and because here's the deal this was dad's idea like this whole thing was dad's idea

like me and dad were texting and he goes hey you should do come and see us in Birmingham like Tracy Lawrence you should do you know yeah that's what you should do and then dad wrote a whole song now he did he wrote a whole fucking thing now I changed it to have you know some of our vernacular for our fans

and making it the way I was like well dad I thank you for doing that. And it was, of course, what dad wrote was funny. Of course it was, but I needed to be more succinct. Sucinct. Of course, I wanted to throw in some, you know, dad, dad didn't put anything about vaccines and masks. You know what I'm saying?

And so I was like, I'm going to change it. And he didn't care about none of that. But then we get there, I was like, I want to, I want to be black and white until we get to Aint Lita. And then I want that to flash to color. Otherwise, the pink's not going to show up. And then da, da, da, da, he's like, no. I'm not seeing it.

And I'm like, and I'm sitting. I'm like, I'm like, you know, he's doing this. I can't fucking argue with him. But then I would have this idea.

And no, let's not do that. That's not going to pop. And I just want to be like, God damn it. Whose fucking video is this? And I was like, well,

it's his idea and he's shooting it. So you better shut up. But like, it was just so funny. Just me and him, like, you could just tail in his face. He was like,

yeah, let's do that again. You just don't, you don't hit. You know, and I was just like, And I was fucking sweating my ass off in that full, you know, the full Garth Brooks regalia. So like, we didn't actually fight.

But it was pretty funny, him having to sit there watching his son in a pair of Daisy Dukes. And by the way, dad, my dad, oh, God, I didn't never know this is going to happen. My dad actually said to me, pop your ass more. Pop your ass more. And I was like, this is as much as I can pop my fucking ass. Yesterday was leg day. God damn. So it was weird.

I don't think my mom's proud. Just generally speaking. That's rude. Yeah, just generally speaking. I wanted to ask about yingling. Was that accidental? Because isn't that guy big anti-vaxxer, the guy who owns it? Oh, that, you know what?

Probably that wasn't, that wasn't on purpose. All that was was, we kind of had, my house is kind of like where everyone on the street, because, you know, we live right down the street from her dad and her brother, so my brother-in-law. And everybody just kind of comes here to drink on Friday night. or Friday afternoon or Tuesday afternoon. Nobody works. And so my fridge always has a bunch of beers that I didn't buy.

Like they're just kind of random ones that I would never drink or in there. And dad had the idea. He's like, he goes, we need a shot where you're, you know, slinging a bunch of empty beer cans across the table. And I was like,

oh yeah. And the trash had just gone out that day. So all our beer cans that were empty were gone. And I just looked in the fridge and there was a bunch of, what are you going to do? Yeah, there was a bunch of ones that I could just get rid of real quick. Yeah, right. And so that's that's what I did.

Don't have any empties. Damn. You got to have them for this shot. We do. Yeah. I'm going to shake your ass in front of your dad. Yeah. And so that's what that was.

They were just, they were just, you know, there. But you know what? I'm going to edit this out. Yes, that was a choice. Yeah. That's definitely a choice. That's a very you thing. I don't, I don't know that.

accidentally make a nuance choice. Right. Yes. Yeah. Like, yeah, I didn't know that about the yinling guy, but given that that is true,

that's a very show thing to have happened. Like, that just happened. Yeah. And it's like, apparently a brilliant Easter egg. That shit fucking happened to me. I don't even know.

All the time. That, I'm not kidding. That genuinely does exactly like that happen all the time where I'll do a video. Oh, we know, yeah. And somehow. Also,

is it me? Hello. You said also, and I was going to let you go. Oh, I thought I thought I first. Rose because I couldn't hear you all. No, no, no.

Are you going to say your thing? I thought, I think I interrupted you and I didn't realize. Oh, yeah. It's fine. I was just going to say like sincerely, like there will be so many times that somebody will quote tweet a video of mine and they'll be like the subtle brilliance of the insert blah, blah, blah here. And I'm like, I'm like, oh shit.

Like, I don't even know that. Yeah, you got that, huh? Yeah. And I'm like, right on, guys. you're right there like that's the thing is you just got you got to really pay attention to this guy you know like it's all this stuff in the background i'm like i'm a very surface level dumbass uh anything that i did that was nuanced or whatever i promise you it was unintentional this is this is about to be raving uh forewarning this is like a 15 year old story or i don't have what uh how old

yeah thereabouts because it was like sophomore year of college shit and i still think about this I probably thought about this this week, probably. An argument I had in an English class, like a group thing. We were in like groups. It was English class. And it was with this like, you know, a very English majory type girl. It was my age. An argument I had with her about.

Does that mean bitch? I didn't go to college. Just like, you know, real literary and into, you know, new words. Shelly Long. Shelly Long from subtext and shit, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Shelly Long from Cheers. I get it. And it was an argument about, I was just saying, I don't remember the book. I don't remember the interpretation. I don't remember none of that. But I was basically, and of course, I'm 19 or 20 at this time. So I still sound like this and I'm from slime, you know. And I was arguing it's like, I just think that's bullshit.

Like, I don't, I don't buy that that's what that guy meant at all. And I, and I wasn't, the argument was about, I was like, matter of fact, I don't, I think sometimes artists don't intend any of this. in meaning shit at all. And the chick was like, that is the most asinine thing I've ever heard someone. She's like, that's just ridiculous.

Of course they do. And again, I don't know her name. I didn't know her name at the time. It's been 15 years and randomly something will make me think of that. Like you telling that story. Yeah. That memory will pop into my head.

And I'll be like, God damn it. Like I know they don't. Not just because of Cho fucking. There's document like the Beatles. John Lennon talked about that shit. I used to hear John Prine talk about all the time. He's like, sometimes people interpret my songs in more brilliant ways than I meant them.

He's like, I swear he goes. He's like, somebody I'll be like, oh, what John Prime was actually talking about here. And I'll be like, well, that wasn't, Mattel, that's better than what I got. But the other thing about that is with great art, especially if you're telling stories, you're talking about people in relationships. Like, I saw a thread this morning on, like, trauma and how we're all finally starting to talk about trauma and how we process it and how that's coming out in art. And someone else made the point of like, yeah, but I can interpret shows from the 70s and be like,

you brought up cheers. This person is drinking because his dad, X, Y, Z. And it's like, you can read all that stuff into it. They didn't think of that. They just were writing people accurately. And when you write people accurately, when you get the tools to describe how people, you know, live, you'd be like, oh, damn, you know. Arthur Conan Doyle wasn't trying to make a comment.

commentary on autism when he wrote Sherlock Holmes, but it's widely regarded by a lot of psychologists that the person that he observed and got the inspiration for Sherlock Holmes was probably on the spectrum, but they didn't have a word for that back then. So they were just fascinated with someone who was so attentive to detail. And now you can go back and read that and go, oh my God, this, this, but it's like, he was just doing a thing. And now we know. Well, yeah, you can do like a Marxist interpretation of the prodigal son from the Bible and talk about how and not you can do this in the magazine i just read someone did do this and describe the prodigal son as the white working class it's like we got to forgive him we got to put our

marks didn't exist when they wrote that story but it's still in there right have you have you mentioned to any of your people that about marks in the bible and the parallels and see their head explode me this is in a dsa magazine oh yeah read that story yeah oh that's wild anyway see us in Birmingham and Elkirk. Go to well-read comedy.com and see all our dates and get the tickets and please come see us. We surely would appreciate it. We put out a different video that Drew made today, a sort of montage, a little like fun tour clip montage type video that came out today.

And I was telling y'all, in that video, it starts with me, my very first liberal redneck video, a very brief clip from it. You look real good. Right. And it ends with me. Traps. It ends with me now. So it starts with me pre-tour.

It ends with me 18 months post-tour. And I've lost like 50 pounds or something. And everything in between is shit from the road. And so it's like it's a really succinct sort of summation of my road lifestyle. And the effects it has on me, which are universally negative physically. I love it. I can't wait. But it was just funny to me.

It's like there's two versions of free of the road tray in that video. And they both look pretty good, you know. And then all the road trays that are in the middle are just shot out fat, drunk fucks. Like, but again, wasn't traded for the world. I can't wait. But like, I looked like shit too. Yeah, you hadn't know. Like, but they're one of those clips in there, me and you drunk as fuck on a plane.

I got my big fat man my arms. We're singing out loud on the plate. Yeah, looking like garbage. a lady trying to sleep beside us in the same way. I completely. We have fun. She was there anyway. Is that the trip that we had to get a wheelchair to take you off of the plane?

Yeah. And then I got like poked awake by like a Chinese tourist family over by baggage claim or whatever later later. But yeah, it wasn't just drinking. You see how much I respect you? I filmed you singing and did not film you sleep in that fucking wheelchair. Well, here's what I'll just. just tell her by I don't give a fuck. I had,

this was early in the tour, which enough, what I was going to say real quick. Yeah, we were different people. The traps, clip, me shirtless looking all right from the beginning. And this clip on the plane where I'm a fat, drunken fuck are like,

they're like three or four months apart. Yeah. I get insane how the amount of weight I packed on in the short amount of time I did. But other, anyway, the other point is that was really, the fame went to your head and the chicken went to your thighs, baby. 100%.

That was real. early in the tour, we actually hadn't even flown that much because we were living in. That was on Spirit Airlines. Gross. We were like. Have fun. We had fun. We had fun.

We did. We were mostly driving to shows. We haven't flown much. And the tour hadn't even been going that long. So my point is for this flight, uh, I took some Xanax. Me too. I know you did. I got it from you.

Oh, right. Yeah, I got it from you. That's fine. I was like, yes, what people do. People take Xanax. for flights. I know that's a thing that white people do. So yes,

I want that, but I'm not experienced with Zanax at all. We get on there and start drinking. And that's why I had to be wheelchaired off for there and fucking passed out. And the thing is, it's not like I had, I'm, it's not like I'm that much more experience than X X.

The you, it's not like I took them a lot of the time. It's just when it comes to, like, taking pills and drinking, I can just play. You know what I mean? Like,

I can just put me in coach, like, can he play, God damn it. Yes, I can. Like, I see how many fingers.

But yeah, you, though, was like, I mean, Mariah Carrey after her last Christmas concert. Absolutely. Nothing else does me the way that Xanax does, which is why I don't fuck with it. I don't like Xanax because that's all it does to me is it just puts me in a fucking comb like. Yeah. They don't really do much to me as we've documented. But y'all also, Spears's got them like double deals where like, you know, a couple can get, you know,

it's like two mixed drinks and four shots and a bag of chips and a bag of chips and a couple. cookie or something. Yeah. Because if you never phone spirit, that's how they do you. They sell everything. There's nothing free, not even water.

But they give you these deals. And it's a deal. I couldn't afford not to. And y'all got like three of them. Yeah. So y'all drank a lot more than me. I also like about spirit that they don't have, they just pass around the bottle.

You know what I mean? That's pretty sweet. I think that's a great deal. This is pre-pandemic. They just passed around the bottle in a brown bag that says spirit on the side of it. It's, it is fun. You're right. Yeah,

I got a bit about how fun it is. I'm going to add that line. Thank you. You're welcome. Have you guys gotten sick in this during the pandemic at all? No, I haven't. And it's funny, when I first saw that pointed out by somebody on Twitter, it was just like, you know, weird how since I've been covering my face,

staying away for people and washing my hands, I haven't been sick in like over a year. It's fucking crazy. And that, like, bloom, even though it's very simple. I saw that and I was like, holy shit, that's true. But my sons are both sick. They're fine. Well, they've been to school, though. Yeah.

They just finished. Yeah. For the record. Like the day after, and they're both sick right now. And Katie thinks she's getting sick. So I'm sure it'll sit in on me right before I leave for Burma. Probably. But I would like to point out too.

I said I had been sick one time. It was, though, it was because, and I think I talked about it on here. And let me preface this by saying, just because. this can happen doesn't mean I don't believe it is a safe alternative and has saved lives. I absolutely do believe all those things. But it was Craidam withdrawal. And I didn't know that you, I didn't know that was a thing. And I had been, I was at like, when I was walking in the woods lot, I was fucking taking so much goddamn cratim, like all day or day, you know, because I mean, my interest is, are you talking about how happy you were? Huh? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I was, uh, no, this is earlier, but when I lost a lot of weight, like, you know, because cratum gives you energy. And I was like walking and running like three hours a day every day. And then it started kind of fucking with my sleep a little bit. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to stop taking cratom. And I didn't even cross my mind, but I stopped taking it.

And then for like three days, I was as sick as I'd ever been in my life. I was like fucking puking. I was sweating. And I was like, God, fucking damn. I went and got a COVID test, nothing. And then I just one day, after three days, it clicked. And I was like, wait a minute. and I googled and it was like, they were like, yes, dumbass, you can absolutely have withdrawals from Cratum.

And I was like, holy, like, if you were taking a lot and I was like, what is a lot? And a lot to them was less than I was taken, you know? So, but so my point is, is that that don't count as far as being sick goes. So no, I haven't been sick this whole pandemic. And my ass gets sick all the fucking time. Me too, man. I'm also. I'm sick right now.

I have a fever. It's better than yesterday. I know it's a sinus infection, but I wouldn't got a COVID test just in case. But I had the thought, and it's kind of the reverse of what you were saying, Trey, and this is how dumb I am. I literally, for like half a second, I started feeling sick. And I knew it wasn't COVID because I could tell it was a sinus infection. And I literally had the thought, but I'm vaccinated. Yeah, yeah.

Can't get sinuses. Like, I got the vax, so I can't get sick now or whatever, you know, because we were living in the pandemic, not being around people. I got the vax, went back out in the world. And now apparently I'm just going to get all. the other diseases. Well, dude, it's not just the sickness, too. I saw a bunch of, I saw somebody on Twitter posting this and I was like, hold up. And then I, of course, I went and looked it up.

And I was like, oh, duh. They were talking about how they're just, like, just their sinuses weren't as bad because, yeah, it, pollen can't get through that shit as easy either. And me and, and so mom was, because my mom is, dude, her allergies are terrible. And mom's been working in the yard and stuff. And, like, she wears her mask when she's in the yard. and she's like it like i still get my allergies but like it she's like do you know like oh shit like we found this out but like yeah like people aren't getting as bad of allergy attacks

because of a mask so you know cheat code i guess uh if there was a silver lining yeah yeah uh i know there's a thing you're wanting to talk about you go ahead do your silly stuff well yeah because i you know what we'll do some reads here shortly and i don't know how much you're wanting to get into your thing so well i don't know how much i want to get into it but it will be a whole thing, I have to guess. Right. Okay. Well, then in that case, let's see what kind of silly stuff I got for us here.

You know what you need to do? You need to, here's what I want from you. I want you to take all those and start writing them on pieces of paper instead and get one of those wheels, like those lottery wheels behind you and have it going like that and you just reach in like it's a hit generator. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you at any given time I'm working with like two or three. Oh, okay. I'll say you sound.

I could contribute this list of them. You know, well, God damn it. My microphone's pissing me off. Do I sound different to y'all? I'm sorry to do this. You sound good. Yeah, you sound good. It's also, I don't think, you know, the amount of roomy is.

I don't know if Katie would allow for a hit wheel. That's true. All right. We need to, anybody out there that can, we need an app. We need a hit will app. Yeah, we need a hit will app that we put all our hits in. I bet you they've got something like that. It's kind of like a bunch of stuff in there.

Random hit generator. That's what Corey is. Generator. There you go. Yeah. All right. Something like that. So, all right, let's see.

Which one of these don't want to... Start saying shit you're not supposed to like, though. You know what I mean? That's fine. Misedy in the 70s. Fuck. Hey, we can... This can be a whole different podcast.

We need to pivot. We're getting close to like 300 and something episodes. We've got to do something different. I think that when we get to episode 300, we need to wildly change what this podcast is. Yeah, that would hit. Like wildly. Like, like, like, wildly. I don't know what that means.

I don't either. We'll figure it out. This is not a, this is not a revolutionary remark that I'm going to make you. Yeah, right. This is, people have pointed this out before, I believe,

but it's just something I was thinking about the other day. So like, you know, when we was kids in the 90s, the boy band's fucking craze, right? Insane. Backstreet boys, 98 degrees. Oh, town. Yeah.

What, Backstreet boys. Boys and Insink were probably the two hit in this one, you know, the two biggest ones. And then out of all of them, Justin Timberlake, you know, is now someone who still has a career and deservedly so, mega talented. But still, it ain't exactly the same as what I'm about to say. Imagine, like, like, imagine if the Backstreet Boys in their exact incarnation had then, like, started doing their own thing and revolutionized music as we know it. Like the Beatles? Like the Beatles. Because like, you know, again, everybody knows at this point about the Beatles that they were like the whatever 60s version of a boy band.

Yeah, for sure. But just think about the actual parallel of that. Like think about the boy bands we know and imagine fucking the dudes with the fucking braided top knots and the frosted tips and stuff. Fucking revolutionizing the closest thing. All of music forever after that. Yeah, and like, they did revolutionize pop, did they not? But it, we don't do that no more. But I don't even know enough about pop to know, but I, but the Beatles did the not, but you know.

The Beatles changed too. That's the thing is the Beatles evolved and stuff like literally the closest thing in my opinion. And, and when I say the closest thing, it's still like fucking miles and miles away. Like the Jonas brothers have all pivoted and done different things. Musically, I don't think they did. But it's like some of them are actors now. they're not just doing the poppy boy band bullshit but like yeah it would be like if the backstreet boys like put out an album in 2003 where they were the flaming lips yeah you know what I mean exactly but two things one they weren't put together by a studio where they weren't they a band so that's one difference yeah um so I just I think they might want that to be pointed out maybe not maybe that doesn't matter but secondly they had the that everybody had starting out that the industry was almost either not

existing. I mean, they were like, what, four kinds of music back then? You had to get on the radio to be a hit. That Sullivan Show came around and that changed the game, blah, blah, blah. But once they got on top, all that worked to their advantage. Like all those disadvantages were your advantage once you got on top. My point with that is we'll never have another group like the Beatles again because there's too many groups. There's too many avenues to make it. And I think that's a good thing. But I think that you've got to be. not just as good as the Beatles, but be around at the time the Beatles were around. Yeah, I agree with that.

Not taking anything from them. No, I agree with you, especially because an example of that, you actually just named while you're doing that is like a guy like Ed Sullivan. Ed Sullivan is like one of the most legendary contributors to the pop world ever. Like, Ed Sullivan is synonymous with introducing us to act. Like, that's it like you go, oh, when somebody got Ed Sullivan. like that was the break he was before he was the johnny carson to rock and roll bands and shit like that if you go back and ever look at any ed selvin stuff he is the most untalented

boring ugly sack of shit like he looks like a frog that someone pulled skin over like he like he he doesn't even have any like even when he's just introduced in the band there's no crew ladies and gentlemen the beatles like what my point is is like that was such a time that everything was so new that Ed Sullivan could hit at something. Like, do, nowadays someone, let's say twice as talented as Ed Sullivan would never make, 10 times as talented as Ed Sullivan would never fucking make it. So, yeah, like now there's just too many goddamn hitters to revolutionize almost anything. Sure, that's 100% true, but it's still like, you know, I mean, the Beatles still, like,

yeah, it was easier to hit back then, generally speaking. They still, the way in which they went about hitting. It's insane. is pretty fucking wild. It is. I'm not taking anything or trying to take anything from them. And I was saying, too, that all those things that made it harder to make it back, you had to make it one way.

Like, there was one way to do it. But once you did it, you could go on and Sullivan every year. You know what I mean? Once you did it, every DJ is going to play your new shit. You know what I mean? There's like so few people to replace you. Yeah, it's not a, it's not a knock on the Beatles any more than like me saying, there's never going to be another Hulk Hogan because.

at that time in 80s wrestling, you know, it probably was easier to just do your basic, oh, I'm going to get fucking super jacked and tan and do a leg drop. That does not take anything away from him. It's just nowadays. Both a ring balled.

Yeah. Dude, that's the crazy shit about Hulk Hogan is like he was fucking ring balled at his peak hitting. It's not like he had a bunch of hair hit and then started to go ring balled and they were like, well, he's already hit, so we'll let him hit. He started hitting looking, game with a skull.

Dude, he started hitting looking like a goddamn dizzy Dean third base coach. You know what I mean? Like, it just played though,

you know? It just worked the combination with the food land tree and thin. Yeah. They were just strong.

It looked like how like a, honestly, a three-year-old boy's hair looks. Like, not on the top, like,

but like, like, like when, like when the young, like the milk. They still got that placenta on them. It's still healthy. When,

when, when, improvement first came out. His hair looked like how Jonathan Taylor Thomas's little baby hair looked. Like he looks like Olson hair. But like, yeah, he came. I think it was just because people were like, well, yeah, I mean, goddamn, look at his biceps.

Like, how could his hair hang on, man? He's hitting too hard. Like, look, he's a man. Like, but like, you can't do that shit. Like, there's not going to be like you had the rock. You had stone cold. Those were kind of different. I don't think we're going to see that shit anymore.

And it's not like, it's just because there's too many good ones. It's over homogenizer, whatever the fuck. And, but like, again, that's not, you look back and you go, oh, yeah, it was fucking easy for Hogan. It's like, well, okay, then why wasn't, didn't somebody do it beforehand? That's not necessarily. So I'm not taken away from the Beatles, but like, yeah, there can't be any more the Beatles. The pivot, the pivot. Yeah.

Hulk too, though. Whole fucking pivoted, son. That's why like, dude, listen, I'm, we're going to have a lot of, we're going to have a lot of people. Listen, first off, first and foremost, fuck Hulk Hogan's racist ass. All right. I'm not going to give him another dollar. All we're talking about is, like, you just can't deny. this motherfucker because Hulk Hogan was the greatest baby face of all time, the biggest ticket

selling baby face of all time. And then who the guy that were like, he'll never turn. He, the most popular he'll, he created the NWO. Like, Hulk Hogan and that revived, he's the one that ended up beating Vince McMahon for 83 weeks. Hulk Hogan is ungoddenable. He did pivot. He did a completely different thing in wrestling. He's the Beatles of wrestling without a doubt.

I'm not arguing with any of that at all. and I love it, but it's just, it kept, I did not expect this particular and that, like, the fucking, the, you're talking to the wrong parallel. I know, the parallels are drawn between the Hulkster and the Beatles is fucking crushing me. But that thing you said about, like, if the Backstreet Boys had then put out, written every song on and put out an album that sounded like the flaming lips.

Yeah. Like how fucking insane that would have been. And also, I think, I'm not trying to do any, you can't do that shit today type of thing. But, like, I feel like today, like, it's wild to think of an artist doing that and everyone being like, holy shit, this hits. Right.

You know, as opposed to being like, this ain't. This ain't it. This ain't it. Right. Do the thing that is it. Because that's why we fuck with you is for the thing to sit. This ain't it. Like that you figure that's what happens when people try to pivot most of the time.

The fact that they pivoted so hard and didn't just hit at doing it, but changed everything forever they hit so hard at doing it is like. Donald Glover's that way in a micro sense. There's a lot of people that went to micro sense in music, though, and that's all I was saying earlier. I wasn't trying to tell you anywhere from the Beatles, but I still think that that time period is the only time. Now, they get credit because they did it.

They were the only one that did it at that time period. Maybe Bowie a little, and that was later. But, like, I mean, do you guys know a lot about mixtapes and the way they changed? I mean, not enough. I would love to hear you tell us about it, though. So mixtapes were very tolerated by the, music industry in the late 90s because it would put out music and get people interested in

what was on CDs. So it was breaking copyright laws, but it was fine. So in other words, you know, Trey puts out a hit, MC Trey, Corey puts out a mixtape and wraps over his hit. You've stolen the beat. You've absolutely blatantly broken copyright law. Right. But who cares because people are going to still buy Trey's album? Right. And some people might not have ever heard a Tray's album, but heard my shit and was like, what's the original? Right. So in the early 2000s, and I'm probably not going to give enough people the right credit, but the ones I know of are Little Wang, Ti, and 50 Cent.

Those three in different ways made it to where the mixtape starts surpassing album sales. With TI, the record label had buried him. They put out one song that didn't put nothing behind it and they were burying him. And he was like, well, fuck it. They're not going to take my career seriously. I'm going to do it this way. with 50 cent, he couldn't get ahead in New York because he had pissed too many people off as a battle rapper.

None of the labels would sign him because he had already dissed every single game. Is that why they kept shooting him? That's literally why they shot. That's quite literally why they shot my man 50 cents. I've never thought to wonder. I was just always like, yeah, he got shot. Yeah, you'll have that. Did you ever wonder why he got signed by an L.A. and a Detroit guy, M&M. and Drey?

Because everybody in New York hated him at the time. Like, you know, it's like Rockefeller was like, no, he didn't. keeps disin JZ. You can't be at fucking rock. Anyway, so he puts out mix tapes. They start out selling them. So this is a little bit. They literally change the whole landscape, but it's such a microcosm. They changed the way music was made because the way those things were made was different too in terms of the music. But they also changed the business model. That's the other thing the Beatles should get credit for doing, in my opinion, kind of piggyback of what you're saying, Trey, it's not just like musically they're knocking down on these doors. They were also changing the industry

along with them. They were that fucking big, that fucking popular. And I just feel like now people do that, but they do it in smaller ways because the industry is so much bigger. I mean, dude,

Soldier Boy is one of them. Soldier Boy used Frily Loops, which was an app to make beats to make, watch me, ooh, Soulge Boy. And everybody was like, ah, that's kind of a cute song. Next thing you know,

everyone's using Frily loops. And like the next, like, I don't know, I don't know the exact details, but like eight out of the next 10 number one rap songs was made on that app or some shit like that. Like he changed everything. Little Nazex is changing everything now.

But I just feel like you're right completely. They revolutionized everything. I think people still do it. They just do it in smaller ways. Y'all's girl Taylor Swift has done it. I was going to bring her up, except I didn't want to open that whole can of worms again because, yeah, I think she is not a bad example.

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All righty. So here's what I want to know. Yes. So I will be, wow, this is not true. I won't be the first to admit that I'm stupid and don't know something. But once it's been pointed out to me, I'll agree with everybody who said it for the most part. And so I don't really know exactly what it is the fuck that's going on with Elon Musk and Richard Branson and I believe Jeff Bezos. I know they're having like, so I know that they're having a billionaire's race to space and that I believe it was Branson and Elon done did it, right?

Like they did that this weekend or something. They went up in their pecker rocket. Nobody did it, Drew. Branson did it. Branson did it. Okay. Now, here's a deal. So I will admit that from time to time, I see a thing, I get angry at a thing,

I scream about a thing before I really have all the information. You know, I can admit that I do that. I know. I can admit that I do that. And so I see, you know, fucking billionaires going to goddamn space, you know, these pricks that don't pay enough in taxes. and I go, well, you know what? Fuck them.

And fuck the whole system for allowing them to be able to have the expenses in order to do stuff like that when some people, goddamn go bankrupt after their kid gets cancer. That's fucking bullshit. So I went on and on about it and screaming and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And of course I've seen some people comment, which I shouldn't read, but I've seen some people comment that were like, you know, fuck you, you goddamn moon-faced queer.

And when I see that, I'm just like, well, you know, you'll have that. That's always. But then I started seeing some, like, familiar faces of people who, like, normally are team me. And we, like, went back and forth that were like, you know, Corey, you might be wrong on this one because, yes, they are billionaires that are shitty. But like, this is still helping to further space exploration. And it's a good thing. And when I hear that on the surface level, I'm like, yeah, that sounds like a billionaire just type this. But I was like, look, I'm willing to be wrong.

So can either one of y'all explain to me the benefits of? of Richard Branson, uh, taking his fucking dipping dots martinis up to space. So I, I don't know, like, I used to always get annoyed.

I don't, this is not the same thing. This is more egregious in my opinion, but I would feel, I was like, high school buddies, Facebook pages and stuff, I'd see them share like memes and stuff.

Anytime NASA was wanting to do something, wanting to do anything. Yeah. Like NASA had been trying to go to Mars for forever, trying to get funding for it or whatever. And it would be anytime that was slightly in the, news. They post some little e-card or whatever that's like,

oh, taxes don't need to pay for that. Tell me again about how you want to spend $8, whatever, billion dollars going Mars when we got shit in this country, yada, yada. And that always pissed me off because, like, I think that abandoning the space race,

the way that we did, I mean, we won the space race, first of all, we're not what we won it. But just walking away from space exploration and advancement is one of the biggest mistakes that we've ever made. And I think there's just. Yeah, I agree. government, there's just, it would be money much better spent on space mess than a lot of the shit. The government spends money on.

We're talking about billionaires who have so much money that they can do this type of shit on their own just to fucking, and jerk each other off and stuff. That's definitely a little bit different. That's also our tax dollars paying for that too because it's taxes that they didn't fucking. The reason they have that money is that they don't fucking pay that. Billioners, like, billionaires do not hit for me. but space does. The spaceship does.

If it will like push the fucking frontier further, push the boat out and keep us moving in that general direction in terms of space, you know, exploration, colonization, who knows whatever in the future. If it like pushes us further down that path, then I am more fine with it than I otherwise would be. But I'm not going to sit. I'm not going to fucking die on the,

hill of defending these particular assholes who are doing. What is Richard Branson do? Like when he goes and when he goes up in his space and his little rocket, what the fuck is he doing that he's not going and collecting fucking samples?

I mean, no, he's not, but I guess just that his money, you know, made all that happen or whatever. There's a shitload of science involved with getting that done. Yeah. No matter who's behind it. Because as Corey pointed out,

they all got government grants and shit. And they're not paying taxes. so that's why they have so much fucking left over bullshit. I mean, Blue Origin or whatever, which is Bezos's company, they got a PPP loan. How far is that? For like millions of so, and I'm furious about all that. I'll put that aside for two seconds.

No, go on. Branson's stated purpose is tourism. That's Branson's stated purpose with Virgin Atlantic. It'll be rich people can go to space for money. And if I get better and better at it, less and less rich people can. And in the distant or maybe close future, I'll be at the forefront of if we do end up on the moon or Mars, I'll be the one who can take, quote unquote, regular people there. That is also Blue Origins stated purpose as a company, but Bezos's stated purpose beyond that is to industrialize space. And he has said that his goal would be for Earth to be like a park.

he has said, wouldn't it be nice if all of our factories and most of our mining and all that happened elsewhere and then this would be just,

Earth would just be the place we live. Okay, I'm kind of back on that team that, that all hits. That's all pretty sweet. Well, I don't like the guy who's doing it though. And then Elon's stated purposes

to colonize Mars. Yeah. Because we cannot live on Earth forever, even if we fix climate change, the sun's going to explode. Not that, I mean, Mars is, you know, probably fucking closer, isn't it? Or no, it's one more. I don't know.

Anyway. But I don't buy that any of that would be good for us if it's in the confines of privatized companies. The notion that private companies would do or be successful at any of those stated purposes we just listed. Right. And it benefit us much to me is insane. That's an insane. Right. Our people are going to end up being goddamn space miners mining space coal.

I was about to say, I've seen the expanse. I know how this fucking is. But, you know, we might get space Johnny Paycheck out of that, too, which was it. Oh, that would so fucking hit. I'm on record. I want Mars to be a penal colony because it's only hope my brother has as of a decent life. He'll be president of Mars. but I don't buy it, Corey.

Like, I'm not saying, number one, I think it's about. Well, theoretically, it's all great. I think, number one, it's just about them being the first to do it. I think all of them to a man, as smart as they are, know that best case scenario, they're credited as like the start of something because they're going to be dead unless health, unless they get in the health game and figure something else out, way before any of this is plausible. Right.

The stuff I just said, except for maybe Branson. be able to take rich people to the moon or something. Number two. He hits for me the most of those three, I'll say. I don't know why. He's the least full of shit. Well, that's what I'm saying. When you're like, Branson's stated purpose was tourism, I'm like, man, fucking, you

know, I hate to sound like the Trump people, like, at least this motherfucker just lays it out. It's like, look, man, I'm a long-haired playboy. Also, dude, I like, the idea that in whatever, whatever, 50 fucking whatever years, you could take a flight to the moon or whatever, like. Yeah, it's pretty cool. I'm super into that. Or that like you could take up just an orbital flight, just a space.

You take a space trip, go up to space and hit. Like, yeah, me too. That's fucking rad as hell. There are people who would disagree with what I'm about to say on the right, especially, but even on the left. But I agree with you guys. But I think innovation, the world over, has historically been way more spurred by government intervention than it has been in the private ties industry.

The big exception that I'll grant. has been Silicon Valley, but they've done it on the backs of government grants and without paying any fucking taxes. So it's six when we're like they're still doing, they're still getting money from us, the taxpayer. I guess that's like so much stuff came out of the space race that, you know, as like byproducts of the space race, you know, that were huge. And so again, like, I'm all for giving NASA. Yes. All kinds of motherfucking money. So like I'm super into the space, doing more of the space. We order to do more space, right?

But I also, yeah, billionaires don't hit for me. I don't trust these motherfuckers. I think it's mostly about their dicks and everything. And like, that's, so it's a conflicting. It's definitely a subject for me. I guess that's where I'm at too is like, and I don't want to sit here and sound like one of those people is like,

oh, I just, I trust in the government entirely and we should give all our money to the government. I'm not trying to be that way. But my original point was, is that at the end. end of the day, since these motherfuckers aren't being taxed like we are, it is, it still is the same thing. It is your fucking tax dollars that these motherfuckers never paid.

So if that's going to be the case, then no, I don't want just these pricks to benefit from it, which is like, that's just how that we're the, oh, well, Jeff Bezos, he, are you kidding me? He takes all his money and he creates jobs. He creates jobs for people who wind up fucking dead in the dumpster because they're goddamn dehydrated. Get the fuck out of my face for that bullshit. But like, yeah, with NASA, like, that does benefit the people.

You know what I'm saying? At least in the government sense, it's like, all right, we're all a part of that. I don't think that I'm a part of goddamn Jeff Bezos's grand plan. Also, like, just I'm the type that, like, you know, this is getting more fucking whatever. What's the word I'm looking for here? Just like idealistic or something, whatever about it. But, like, that fact. that get stated sometimes about how humanity went from Kitty Hawk,

you know, with the Wright brothers and the first flight, went from Kitty Hawk to the fucking moon in like 50 years, like a generation or something like that. Like, yeah, that is fucking so awesome. And that was in 1969 and like we should, we should have been, we should have a base on the moon. We should have been to Mars multiple times. We should probably be already fucking checking out asteroids

and shit. And we just haven't because we just stopped fucking with it. And I like to see us fuck with it more. But these dudes don't hit for me. They don't hit for me either. Is there a compromise? Is there like, is there part of us that goes,

okay, if the concession, if the only way to get these right wing dipshits to be on board with space exploration as if it's privatized, do we just go fine, I guess, if that's the only goddamn way.

Because of how. I'm going to Ramon, take their rockets. Yeah, but I'm just saying because of like how much, because I agree with you, you like I that is such a thing that like when they were like fucking we're spending all this money going to god damn mars why don't we do something about fucking Detroit you know and it's

like well like but but dumb ass like hey y'all don't ever want to do anything about Detroit uh you don't want to do shit about the prison system which would help Detroit out a lot but my point is like there's an argument we made of like dude if we if we as a society were way more technologically advanced then Detroit would get some of that you know what I mean Also, you could just, we could take, we could have like two less aircraft carriers and do both, you know, like, yeah, it was always a false equivalency to me that argument. They just hate science. How about the government's very different than this conversation? Going back to the government in World War II, I pulled it up because I read about this before, but I couldn't remember it all.

So the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office during the War, World War II, kept inventions in more. than 11,000 patent applications secret during the war. Now, these were patents that were filed because they were war-related. They let all those out post-war, and then that spurred a big invention sequence. And also because of the way they industrialized to prepare for the world, basically, if you look at the 40s, the post-war America and 50s, you've got industrialized America factories and all these patents coming in, spurring the economy, creating basically creating the middle class out of thin air

and suburbs and the American dream. And that happens because the R&D, the government did hoard it, the research and develop it. Then they let it out. And that second part is never going to happen with Richard Branson, Elon Musk or Bezos. The only way it could happen, I guess I could see a real, real, real cold conservative being like, let the market do it. and then we'll just take it from them in 30 years. But good luck if they've got a fucking rocket on the moon. Right.

Yeah, that's how you get, you know, Space Corp, Inc. It's got all the space slaves and stuff in the future. And then they end up going to actual war. War, yeah. And an Earth Federation or whatever, you know, like, that's how you get that shit. Dude, I know. It's so funny because, like, I like, sometimes when I'm hearing all these fucking conspiracy theory nuts go on about stuff, and I'm like, God, dang, y'all motherfuckers just watch too many movies sometimes.

But then we start talking about space. I made it. I'm like, I've seen the expanse. Y'all need to fucking pump the brakes on this shit. I know how this motherfucker ends right here. I just watch the goddamn tomorrow war. Yeah. But yeah, no, I mean, ultimately, I don't know.

I mean, you know, as with anything, I guess there's, you know, some form of nuance to it. I just don't like, I just can't. For me is like, I don't even know if I caught, like, it's not new. it's like it's both at the same time for me i think what it is with me i appreciate part of it for a certain compartmentalized reason but also part of it makes you know upsets me and i think what it is i don't i don't dig i know what it is with me i just can't separate these these things is like i just cannot stand the people as i mean then they're on the right they just are on the right that like they they think that people like jeff bezos Elon musk and richard branson and trump all

these people are infallible and way better because they have all this money. Like they look at that money as like money mean, you know, they must be doing something right. And it's like, dog, did you never read the Superman comics? Lex Luthor had a shit ton of money. Like none of that, none of that fucking, I don't know, man. I just, I get really upset almost every day looking at people who somehow equate morality and being just with like, oh, if they've got, well, I mean, how can you

say they're wrong when they got all this goddamn money. I'm like, I don't know, because there's a bunch of sheiks throwing horrors off of boats all the time and they're rich. Like that doesn't, I don't get what the fuck that matters. Like, I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, yeah, I mean, Jeff Dunham has a bunch of racist puppets, but I mean, fucky sales out. So, uh, what are you doing? But we do do that in entertainment.

I guess we do. Maybe not you and I personally, you know, but we do that. Yeah, but if not when it's a hits for them is what I guess I'm saying. Jeff Dunnum don't hit. you. Yeah, but do it for you and me. I mean, yeah,

but if they have something morally fucking wrong with them, I'm not going to, you know what I'm saying? Like, a lot of people do, though, but it sucks. It's bullshit.

I do it too. I think what the problem is, is if you look up to rich people in the first place. We all I think are less, or we're more quick to defend people we look up to, all of us. That's true. Man,

but you and I look up to different people. Like, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Like, it took me, I had to read a few Louis CK stories. That's what I'm saying. No, me too. Me too.

You know what I mean? I had to read a couple where I was like, oh, you're right. You know what I'm saying? It is weird that those people put Elon Musk on a pedestal in the first fucking post. Well, it's like Corey was saying, it's like they just assume with all those guys. They're like, oh, they must be like, we should listen to them because they have proven that they have figured this out.

And so we should listen to them. But those exact same people, when a literal subject matter expert on a thing with like years and years of education and research and experience and stuff tells them something they don't want to hear they're like fuck motherfucker trying to talk down to me like he knows shit get the fuck out of you know like I don't know it's just that's what's so frustrating about it they don't respect it they respect people who win that's that's the Trump Republican that's what it is they respect people who win and they define winning in the context of capitalism.

I think you're 100%. And we're all losers. And that was Trump's fucking word for it. No, I mean, I've heard some variation a billion times of like, I'm not saying I even like half the stuff Trump's saying, but like, hell, he won. Like they, to them it literally is just a game. And it, none of it. And hell, it doesn't affect them.

All these fucking middle class, or not middle, upper middle class white dudes. Like, yeah, it doesn't matter who's in the White House. They're like, oh, look, the Olympics, you know, that's how they look at that. shit. Right, but I would argue you go down a layer and it's, I think the fucked up in this, at least half of it comes from who it is they decide is worth defending that way. Because, again, I think all humans do a version of that. Yeah, like I'll defend Jay-Z. He's a billionaire. Well, okay, what about Alec Baldwin? I mean, it's pretty fucking known that he's an asshole. Right. You know, at this point. And he basically said, I'm going to get me too soon. Right. But like,

he hits at certain things. He's real good. So people defend, but like it's not like people who defend him say, oh, he's a good dude. It's not that they say that. It's just,

what I'm getting that is, I think it's fucked up if people do that in general, but it's super fucked up if the people you do that to, it's just because they're rich. That's a wild thing to look up to. For sure. Right. Just the money.

Like, just the money. Because I don't know, man. Like, it just, maybe I am stupid. That's why I don't, I'm not a millionaire. Well, it's like so many other people have pointed out so many times in the past few years.

Like with Trump specifically, he could have just taken the money that he got from his dad for nothing just for being born. He could have taken that and put it in like an average yield mutual fund or whatever. Y'all know I'm money done. But one of those things. And he would have made more money than he did with his fucking silly ass ventures and stuff. So he's stupid. So, fuck him. So prove no aptitude for it at all the entire time.

But that's literally proof that he don't hit. right like anyone could have money just given to him right yeah like somebody like I don't even know you know I don't fuck with I don't fuck with super rich people so I don't even I know that Elon Musk also comes for money and inherited money I think Branson did too Bezos be is he self-made he okay I've read up a little bit on him I have to admit I kind of I do sort of respect the one no no no with Bezos from nothing but then when they turn into fucking full-fledged masters and slave drivers like Bezos then it becomes fuck him but I have more respect for you. for ones like that, then the ones that was born on third base and thought he was born and

raised in like somewhere in Arizona. He definitely didn't have super rich ass parents. He was very, very smart. He ended up getting a scholarship to Princeton. And this is all coming. I've read it before coming out of my butt. He got a scholarship to Princeton. And then like he worked his way up to CEO ladder and is genuinely a fucking smart dude.

So like with him, yeah, I don't think he was necessarily, you know, born with some inheritance. Like he, he, him and Jay Z also. He started Amazon in his parents' garage, though, and they gave him, I think,

half a million to start it. Really? They had that kind of shit. Maybe it was a quarter million. Yeah. Okay. I mean, quarter million at that time is a lot of money.

For sure. But it's not Elon Musk money. He's definitely better than Trump, though. You know what I'm saying? He was on Wall Street. So he, but worked his way up,

like you said, on Wall Street, and perhaps had his own money because of that, but all that to me is, you know, evil. Like if you're going, like, you're like, no, I don't know. I found it this company by doing stock derivatives on Wall Street for 40 years and stealing your grandma's pension. Right.

Like the fucking Wolf of Wall Street, dude. Like, dude, right now, if all three of us decided, hey, I want to go make a quick goddamn buck by taking advantage of old ladies with a little bit of money buying pennies up. We could fucking do that. And I don't want to hear nobody else tell me that if you, if you are not a complete fucking idiot and you decide I'm going to be morally bankrupt and step on the throat of good people, you can fucking make a quick buck in this country.

You for sure can. If you're smart, you can do that. The fucking people I respect are people who find out how to make money and don't do that shit. You know what I'm saying? Dolly Parton, I respect her ass. She did it and she didn't fuck nobody else over. Matter of fact, she has helped people along the way.

but like people literally like there's two there's two types of people that watch that fucking wolf of wall street movie and i and i'm friends with two both types there's people who watch that and go damn this is a cautionary tale and there's people who watch that with a fucking notepad you know what i mean that guy just because you well he ended up making millions of dollars okay and fucking people lost their houses because of him but what does it matter it's not like that's just it's a i don't know man that's just no you're 100% making sense i always thought like I like I'll watch show sometimes like secession on HBO which is a great show about some you know terrible people rich super rich people but like just the cut throat nature of it

and stuff sometimes I'll be watching the show and I'll be like in my head I'll be like I could hit at that but I always realize like no I couldn't because like I couldn't I wouldn't I would not do the shit yeah they have to consistently all the time I know I'm talking about a fictional show right now but it's very much a real thing. Laying off hundreds of people just making like pinstrokes that ruin countless lives, profiting off of the misery of so many other people and stuff. And just those things you have bloodthirsty things you have to do in order to get to that level. Like I literally could not, I would, I could not live with myself.

I don't care how much money I had if I did that. And if I got put in a position to do that, I wouldn't. I'd walk away and it'll be like, well, I guess I'm just going to stay poor. Right. And that's not bullshit. And like, I feel like a lot of ultra conservatives would hear me say that and they would think like, yeah, easy for you to say just because you, you know,

because you can't do it. You know what I mean? Like they don't believe me or people like me when I say that. They don't believe it. They're like, anybody would, you know. You just, you just can't. Here's my fucking argument. It's like, no, I wouldn't.

I don't want to. My argument to that is all these motherfuckers look at us and they go, oh, God damn, it's so easy for you just to just go, oh, you just get on stage and just tell jokes. Oh, I wish I had a job where I'm out. Well, then fucking do it. You can't. You know what I mean?

Oh, I could just go up there and have your accent and just say a bunch of fucking liberal bullshit. And then because of that juxtaposition, people will click on my stuff and I can make some money. I'll be like, okay, then why don't you go do that? And they're like, because it goes against my fucking values. It's fucking exactly. Exactly.

Same thing. I feel that way about cults. And I was going to say that I feel that way about some comedians. As you were saying that, I feel like that way. I do feel that way about some comedians. And I know that if I said that to those comedians or like outside of our circle, those comedians and their friends would be like,

then do it. You know what I mean? Like you got, you already got a small platform well read. Do it. And it's to fucking make it work. And it's like, I don't want to do that.

I have no interest in. I have no interest in either. Your life seems miserable. Dude, listen, I talk, I talk about this all the time with y'all with my family, with my management of like,

of course I have goals that I haven't achieved yet and I want to achieve and I would love to take my comedy career as high as I can and yada yada yada yada but also the most important thing for me really is doing whatever the fuck I want all the time saying whatever the fuck I want all the time and I realize that I alienate people when I do that and that but that's fine with me like that to me that's the most important thing you know what I'm saying and I'm totally fine with like always being a couple rungs down because you know well if you just appease to these people that I don't that don't hit for me. So like, no, I, but I, but I am absolutely fucking confident that if I decided to do

some sort of Ben Shapiro Hill turn, I could make a shit kind of money. I was just about to bring that up. We've talked about it before private. It's so true though. But I won. It was like huge talk, huge like people with huge followings on the right, even the far right, whatever, some of which are like former comedians have done this. Plenty of people have done it.

And it's like you do a. like a heel turn, like you said, and you start pandering directly to those people. And you can, it just seems like it's real easy to hit on that side. Yeah, because some of them are not really that funny. You just do it.

You'll have a devoted following, make a shitload of money and be whatever. Owen Benjamin is not that goddamn funny. Right. But, but like I would never, I would rather, I'd rather not,

I'd rather work at a fucking gas station. Me too. When I was 16, than be someone with that specific following. I couldn't sleep at night. I don't give a fuck how much money comes with it. You know, like I would never do that. I mean, yeah, goes like saying I hope I would never do that either.

But I do think you said something, Corey, going back, you said, I'm finally in a couple rungs down when people tell me like, don't piss people off or trying to be so divisive or whatever. I think in order to be like James Corden, you have to be apolitical. For sure. But I will say that that I do actually think is harder to achieve. I know I'm Jim Gaffigan I genuinely think it's harder to achieve yeah because I don't know why I don't if I can articulate why I think because you don't have fans who necessarily agree with you well I

okay but my thing is always been like because I hear people where they're like yeah man like you know you just fucking cowtow to all the liberals and that's why you've got all I'm like yeah that's it's easy for me to get a certain amount of people but like I'm dude I'm already like first off and go, oh, I'm a liberal, boom, you've alienated a lot of people. Then people hear my accent. I've alienated a lot of other people right there. So, like, I'm always going to have a smaller bucket. I think Jim Gaffington is just so goddamn funny.

I don't think what you do is easy at all. For the record, I don't either. I'm not sure of what Owen Benjamin does is easy. I have no idea. It does seem easier. But I think that what's not easy, maybe that's not the right word, you can grab a platform because the platform. because the platform already exists if you just will attach yourself to it.

And when you start talking to the comedians about how you're unwilling to do that, they don't believe you. Well, here's the thing, though. I could, I know I could. I could absolutely have an apolitical show like James Corden and I think be successful for once I got it. Because all of my comedy isn't political. But me as a person, because like there's so many things that I do publicly that

It's like that wasn't me really being funny. That wasn't my, like, I'm always going to be an outspoken person. I can't not like with the past couple years specifically me living in Marjorie's fucking district. I genuinely do feel it is important for a dude that looks and sounds like me to be very, very, very vocal. I just do. Like I feel that, you know, I always like, I hate to sound cliche and comic bookie, but like I do feel like with great power. comes great responsibility and I have people that listen to me and I need them to know that just because you look like me don't mean that you think this way and hopefully that will encourage other

people to go like, you know what, me too. God damn. But that doesn't mean that I, like, I wouldn't take it. I'm not sitting here trying to say if the golf channel said, hey, we'd like you to do a half hour golf comedy show that I would go, only if I can be overtly political. You know what I'm saying? I would just say like if they told me, hey, you have to, as long as you're on this show, then you can never share any of your outside opinions with the world. I would have to be like, I'm sorry, I can't, I don't have the capacity to do that. That's what I mean. Yeah, also, it's just weird.

These are our actual opinions, things we really believe. It's just, I was saying earlier, it's like, I just, I oftentimes, and I feel like people, if they hear me say this, would be like, yeah, well, that's easy for you to say. But I oftentimes will see those people, the hugely popular people on the right. and I'll see their shit. I'll see what they do. And I'm like, ideology aside,

like, this ain't. You're not breaking any ground. Yeah, you're just literally just straight up, like, just parroting the shit that they know people want to hear. And I'm not saying they don't believe it,

but I just see it a lot of times. And I'm like, it just seems way easier to me. They could just play the head today. Have a huge following and make a shitload of money if you're on that side. It seems easier to me for a few reasons.

One, all the most talented people, are on our side. Right, for sure. We're not in always. Always. That's number one. Way more competition.

I don't give a fuck what you say. It's true. And number two, liberals are way more fucking discerning about things. Like the thing with their side is, if you're just, if you're part of the, all you got to agree with them.

So to speak. With them, if you're part of the crew, they will fuck with you. There's no way. They will fuck with you if you say the things that they want you to say, but like that's not true on our side.

Because, dude, there's no fucking way that they actually believe that Ben Shapiro is a charming and entertaining person. You know what I'm saying? You just have to say the things they agree with. Over here, dude, there's so many fucking liberals

who agree with almost every word to come out of my mouth, but don't like me. You know what I mean? Because they don't like my style. But like, if I was doing the... Oh, they'd just be like, they're just hard. There's plenty, dude. You're supposed to you were an idiot today

and 1,500 people called you brilliant in the comments immediately. Those 1,500, but I'm just saying, like, there's definitely people who, like liberals who like again if they just yes if they just took the words that I said but but they're like fuck it coming from this Southern dip shit and it's shirtless blah blah I know there are

like I just fucking I know that I know that there are but like again if we were if we were on the other side you literally can just you could just take a fucking video and just be like people would tities and dicks at the same time don't hit for me and then they're just like yeah

oh yeah brother yeah brother fucking share a genius when you say it I got you know, blah, like they would fucking do that shit. Like you, because again, again, Ben Shapiro, like, at least Alex Jones is fucking entertaining. I'm not, he sucks. He's stuck. But Ben Shapiro, even more talent. Tim Dillans is actually entertaining and amazing.

He's, but Ben Shapiro ain't none of that shit. Stephen Crowder ain't none of that shit. Sean Hannity ain't none of that shit. Tucker Carlson is a little, he, like, he's got a little bit of that charm's right. But I'm saying like Ben Shapiro. is one of the most successful podcasters of all time. That motherfucker makes more money than I'll see in a very long time. And he has

nothing except for the words that they like to hear. I've got the words that people like to hear, but that doesn't mean they like me because, as you said, liberals are fucking like very discerning. Well, I, to be clear about two things, I wasn't just talking about politics. I mean, I see comedians where I think in my head, I can do that and it would work and it ain't even political, but you can't say that because

you'll come across as bitter or whatever. And for me, it's more like, why don't want to be trapped in that life? Like the things you got to do when you do that. The types of posts you have to make every day, even if you agree with it, it's just like you got to do it, blah, blah, blah, number one. Number two, I hear what you guys are saying about Shapiro, but there's got to be a thousand people trying to be like him, right? I feel like I could do it because I'm talented and maybe this is huge ego and I think y'all could do it because y'all are talented but I don't think it's easy.

Does that make sense? I guess I mean by the standard of like our standard. Well, if there's a thousand people, not just your average person on the street. Yes, we could do it. He also, okay, surely Ben had money before he started doing all that shit. He was a media. There's probably a thousand other people and if someone has really good production value, then they'll fucking get there. I think.

You know what I mean? Like you with that, like, yeah, somebody that's just as boring as Ben Shapiro couldn't just turn their phone on and fucking do all that shit.

But if you're, if you have all the same opinions as Ben Shapiro and you can be long-winded and you actually have a 4K camera and a studio and a nice mic, I don't know. I think they could fucking give it a shot, maybe.

Shapiro went viral, if I'm not mistaken at first, um, with clips of him shutting down, quote unquote, 20 year olds. in non-debate. With facts and logic, he was destroying people.

Yes. They would ask the question. He would answer it in a way to say that they're stupid. They would not get a chance to respond. Right. You know, and we know comics who've done that. We know comics who have gone viral with heckling videos, you know. And that's what they were.

They were heckling videos. Shapiro kept winning. All right. Well, maybe all right. I was wrong. He's a very talented man. Oh, I was saying the opposite of that. No, no, we don't.

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