wellRED podcast - #235 - Dead Artists and Alive Fartists

Episode Date: August 25, 2021

this week the boys talk about which dead artist they'd bring back if they could and also which ones are best left alone (also more stuff) Bulechew.com promo code REDFreshly.com/wellredLucy.CO promoco...de REDWellREDcomedy.com for tickets to shows

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Starting point is 00:03:21 liberal rednecks that makes some people upset they got three big old dicks that you can suck Just his name though My dad was friends with people who were involved in the cartel I bet he was
Starting point is 00:03:37 They worked on the railroad with him Yeah well they worked on the railroad with him And he didn't know that they were involved in the cartel Until like the fifth time he hung out with him Oh you don't just kind of sell coke What I was gonna say is like So like literally the cartel like Colombian type of shit or like Dixie Mafia?
Starting point is 00:03:54 I would say it would be both. I mean, that's the thing people got to understand about, we're talking 80s. Yeah. You know, early 90s, they're moving Coke through the South.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I would say the Dixie Mafia was who was moving it, but they had to be involved with the Colombians because there was almost no other place to get it back then. Right. So both. That's that good Coke that we were talking about the other night that hasn't existed in the past 10 years. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Your dad knew about that. He did. Well, I was telling Trey, you were adjusting stuff. My dad truly was crazy, but he wasn't like a hardened criminal. But people like that thought my dad was as crazy as they were because he would do stuff like fight and tire biker gangs. Right. Like they worked away. They stayed in hotels.
Starting point is 00:04:36 They'd drink all night, a case apiece. Dad used to tell me that you couldn't stay in his trailer. The railroad's got them trailers before they started doing hotels. If you wouldn't drink a case. Like if you wouldn't buy a case to drink ever night, you weren't allowed to stay with him. Exactly. You had to be in a different trailer. And I'm sure the people who weren't into that were like, yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah. Thank you for telling me what was happening. Yeah. How many people I had working on the railroad in the 80s who didn't want to drink a cat? Right, exactly. Well, it was hard work back then because this was pre-machines and pre-enclosed machines. People who work hard, drank hard. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Well, and I don't mean to insinuate it's not hard work now, but it was really truly hard manual labor back then. As a matter of fact, my dad said that they wouldn't drug test until. until they got air-conditioned machines because on-the-ground-level bosses were like, if I drug test, I can't, I won't have enough. That's like pretty much any, like, restaurant in the world. Right. They're like, they're never going to drug test because it's like, who would work here? Yeah, can you imagine if the Riders Guild made you take a drug test for your fucking insurance?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Like, it's just not going to happen. Well, but the difference of the restaurant, restaurant is very, work is very hard and annoying because the hours and you're on your feet a lot. but but with the railroad back then that most people are physically incapable of doing that kind of work right yeah the money was great like a lot of people wanted that job but then they wouldn't make it you know what buzz my mind on that note is that like yes no well actually it's kind of related to that uh because it's about teachers like Amber does not and will not ever get drug tested like like like just it just so happens or like no they don't they don't no they don't drug test teachers like no heard no do you know that and uh i don't know i think allow me to say this uh teachers should be paid more money and they are often underappreciated and therefore i'm glad that they don't get drug tested that's not where i'm going with this right my point is that like of all jobs that you would think
Starting point is 00:06:43 they would drug test you for second grade teacher way higher on the list than i mean railroad man that's one thing because really realistically what it comes down to is insurance with that with a gig like that if you get hurt on the job and you were fucked up then like the company's liable right it's really hard to test for any drug rather than pot like with most drugs you got to have done it in the last 24 hour right so the insurance i don't know i mean my dad used to talk about smoking one in front of the boss he just looked the other way do you think that he just didn't know it was a joint like because all joints and cigarettes work the same. He would literally look the other way.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Oh, right. But he did say it changed. There was like moments where they started getting different machines. They started getting different types of workers. And then it was like, I can get rid of y'all now. Like, now I can get rid of you. And they started. They almost got rid of my dad.
Starting point is 00:07:29 They put my dad on like a union trial because him and Redbeard were selling marijuana to other people. And they wouldn't roll on each other. And Red ended up getting fired. They got him with something. And they couldn't get him. held. Yeah. They tried to trap him.
Starting point is 00:07:45 They tried to hole. He said you did it. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Red and Doug, but knew that the other one would not have done that. Right. Yeah, I've had that done to me before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I think that. I failed, for the record. You rolled on somebody? Yeah. I was, I was, I was, I was 14. Is that the, the prisoner's dilemma? Is that what the prisoner's dilemma is, or is that a different thing? I know that that's a game theory situation that we're talking about there.
Starting point is 00:08:11 What, what do you mean? where they... The prisoner's dilemma, I think, is you can't get out of one part. Like, this person's going to help you get to the neck to... There's a movie based on it, right? It's like, I need this guy to help me get to the boat, but once we get to the boat, he's going to drag me down. Right, I'm going to shoot him.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Right. Yeah, yeah. I think, Tre. I'm going to look it up, but what I was talking about, Corey, is the thing, I'm almost completely certain there's a name for that thing. Y'all were talking about, but I do think I'm wrong, that it's not the prisoner's dilemma, but where they... No, wait.
Starting point is 00:08:44 We already know. No, no, no, no. It is the prisoner's dilemma. So, Prisoner's dilemma is a standard example in game theory that shows why two completely rational individuals might not cooperate, even if it appears it's in their best interest to do so. Two members of a criminal organization are arrested in prison. These prisoners in solitary confinement with no means of communicating with the other person.
Starting point is 00:09:05 The prosecutors lack sufficient evidence to convict the pair on principal charges, but they have enough to convict both on a lesser charge. So the prosecutors offer each prisoner a bargain. Each prisoner is giving the opportunity either to betray the other by testifying that the other committed the crime or to cooperate with the other by remaining silent. And they, you know, they don't know what the other one is doing. Right, right. And when you don't know what the other one is doing, obviously I try to spin it to you.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Like, well, you know he's going to roll on you, so you have to roll on him because otherwise you're just going to fuck yourself and that whole thing. So it's like a very classic technique and situation. Yeah, when you've got two co-conspirators and a thing. Right, and it is dumb to do it in that. From a lawyer's standpoint, I would say it's dumb because if they had you, you wouldn't be having that conversation at all. Yeah. Whereas if you both be quiet, they got nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:56 That's why they're trying to get you to roll. Yeah, I mean, I was 14 and I was on drugs. Like, I don't mean like, at the time, when I was 14, I'd been doing drugs. Like, literally in the moment of interrogation, I was at that moment on drugs. By a cop? No, no, no. by the fucking principal and my high school football coach. I got mixed feelings about this.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I don't mean morally. I can't decide if I'm surprised or this totally checks out. Yeah, well, they were, like, they knew. They did that or that he rolled? Oh, well, dude, here's the thing. But again, they literally said to me a 14-year-old who was on, yes, they lied to me, who was on drugs and terrified. They go, look, we know who you got the drugs from.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Every single person knows who you got the drugs from. The only way that you, and he's outside, we already got him. The only way that we, that this works out for you is if you just admit, if you admit it and you're honest with us, Corey, we respect honesty. I'd never heard shit like that in my life except for probably on Law & Order. And again, I'm fucked up. My, dude, and I'm talking about on colonopens, the truth serum. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Right, but I feel like you've gotten into mode right now where you're defending yourself morally. And I mean, and I get that, we can discuss that, but it sounds like you weren't very, uh, streetwise yet, but I'm still like a little surprised. Because like, there's so many stories about you being smarter than all your teachers. Yeah, dude. Again, I was like the Azvab story. I was, I know, but I was X annexed out of my mind. Like, if I was sober, first off, if I was sober, it wouldn't have even been a smart thing.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I just wouldn't have done that because I know snitches get stitches. But I was just literally fucked up out of my gourd. I'd have said anything. And I was like, yep, it was Lance. And they were like, oh, word. And I was like, oh, shit. You know what I mean? And then, buddy, it.
Starting point is 00:11:39 It was not good for me. Lance immediately forgave me because he was a smart guy and he knew what they had done to me. But a lot of Lance's boys who were the older dudes, like, it was a, I'll say this, it was a real good thing that me and Robbie was boys. Or I would have gotten, you know, it would just been swirly season. Yeah, for sure, dude. I used to have a joke, you know, snitches get stitches. Snitches also get to see their families. For sure. They get out before Christmas.
Starting point is 00:12:06 They get jail visits. Yeah. Bernie Mac had that one too. in the, uh, in the, uh, god damn it. I was trying to call you, Judge, but the line was busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He shot that motherfucker. So I'd have been in the face, four times, I kicked him in the head.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I tried to call you, but the line was busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like, uh, what's he says? He's like, no, you ain't no punk. You a new fool. Because I'd be damn. If I serve time for any of you motherfuckers, I'd be in court just like this. You went jail for a nine, motherfuckett?
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, yeah. I'll be in there just like this, yawning. Yeah, yeah. God damn. I saw a thing on Twitter earlier, and this reminds me that because I almost said Bernie Mac, and it was, somebody put up, they said, if you could have any artists that died before their prime, or died before, died way too young, if you could have any of them back and give them 50 more years of, like, time to do their shit, who would you pick?
Starting point is 00:13:01 And I almost put Bernie Mac because, like, I really would love to hear what Bernie was saying about all this stuff. I ultimately landed on Keith Whitley, just because I loved Keith Whitley. much and he barely regret that one. Yeah, you think so? Oh, I think you'd have a lot to say that you would not like. Yeah, I'd now, but I think that he would have brought- Like Keith Willie be doing that whole Alabama shit? That there, you know. Either that or just the Jason Aldeen shit that's currently happening. Maybe, but I think that, you know, we ain't requiring my show. I, well, yeah, sure, but I think he would have gave us three to four really good albums before that shit happened. That might be true. Because like, all those people you just named couldn't see Keith Whitley songwriting
Starting point is 00:13:37 in a dream. No. So like- So, so, like. So, so, you. So, You don't think like Tupac or Biggie maybe one of them? That would have hit too. But I just went with Keith Woodley because country music is my favorite genre. Like I went through it. Dude, again, it was almost Bernie Mac. Were you trying to call me racist? I picked a white guy?
Starting point is 00:13:53 No. Yeah. I'm just saying I almost calling it racist. I almost went with Bernie Mac. I know you're not. I almost went with Bernie Mac, but then like, you know, country music is probably my favorite genre. And of the people in country music that hit for me,
Starting point is 00:14:05 the one that I don't, that there's only a couple of their songs. I've ever gotten to hear because they just were in and out is Keith Whitley. And all them fucking songs were just, dude, Miami, Miami fucking don't close your eyes. Like all of them so great. You're right that all that would have happened. But like, you know, that, it's not like I can't enjoy all the Toby Keith stuff from the 90s because of what he's on now. Yeah, but if he had died, that would have hit. Drew saying you maybe wanted like 10.
Starting point is 00:14:39 to 12 more years of Keith Whitley. And then he could have died. Yeah. Before we got the only. That's true. That's true. That's true. What was it, 11?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Was that about the time Obama was wrapping up? That was his first term. That was his first. Yeah. 13. Yeah. I've always wanted to do, I mean, y'all know this because I've told you before. Who would you pick?
Starting point is 00:14:57 I don't have the answer. Somebody popped in my head, but I think they're a terrible answer, but it's interesting, and I'll tell, say it in a minute. But I always, I've told you all this. If we ever got like a sketch show or something like that, I'd love to have a recurring character. where you play like Keith Whitley's ghost, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Hammered drunk. Because like if you go back and look at Keith Whitley, they look a lot of like. And like if you fucking gussing him up with a perm and all that shit. And just acted hammered drunk and fucking. Corn dog went to the county fair is what me and him both look like. Yeah, for sure. That would smash.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I would love that more than probably anything in the world. But this is not my answer, but somebody popped in my head because this gets pointed out all the time. And it is fucking insane. is that actor John Kaisal or Kaisal, however you pronounce it? Coveesel? I'm kidding. No, not him. He or died too. Jim Cavasel. Yeah, he went full Jesus after playing Jesus.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah, I guess you will have that. No, that's his name, right? What was he in? Earth ain't, not Earthane, but like he only, I think he, it's something like he only ever did four movies. Oh, yeah. It was Scorsese. The Godfathers, Deer Hunter, and Dog Day, A, and Dog Day, afternoon and maybe one more but they were all like best picture nominees he did those and then
Starting point is 00:16:15 died and that's the only things he ever did we brought somebody like him back he'd be like god damn all of you oh yeah for sure went out on top yeah yeah yeah like he ain't a big enough name though that's why i'm saying he's not my answer because i feel like i know what would have happened he would have just kept working and that would have gone away right you know what i mean he would have done some duds eventually and he might have just ended up being just another guy or whatever you said that joke about jfk worth way more to us as americans dead absolutely every candy gets fat red-faced and rapy it's what they do yes dude he's harvey dent man all right i think i think i'm going to go with tupac and the reason being not just his art i also am curious where tupac was going to attempt to
Starting point is 00:16:58 go like look listen gaiser rap in the world of ganser rap specifically shug night and then what happened with Tupac. He believed Biggie set him up and he believed his own friends betrayed him. I've got an answer. And I don't think that's true. I'm not bringing that up because that fucked Tupac up real bad. So I'm like nervous that that would have fucked with his head forever. But Tupac's politics and his music and just is acting all of it.
Starting point is 00:17:25 He would be doing movies right now. I think he'd be directing. I think it's Tupac for me. But Bernie Mac's also a good one. Chris Farley. Yep. I almost, I thought him too. That is a good one.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I would love to have seen, or John Candy, that would have had, too. I would be honest, and this ain't, this ain't like, look at Will Ferrell. I mean, I know that Will Ferrell's not quite as talented as Chris Farley. The bit gets old. Not the bit gets old. I still love Will Ferrell, but I, like, comedy don't age well, generally speaking. But Chris Farley does, though, because it's like Fatty Arbuckle and, like, Buster Keating stuff, that physical stuff works.
Starting point is 00:18:00 The question was 50 more years, and it's like, yeah, I don't. Like, would Chris Farley be smashing right now? If he was still alive, I don't know. But I know we would have got a lot more really hitting hits out of him than we did. He could have went drama too. Yeah, now I feel bad about my hair trigger response of Keith Whitley. Right? He could have went drama too, Farley?
Starting point is 00:18:20 I think he definitely had that in him, for sure. Now, this is not my answer. A lot of people in comedy's answer would be Patrice. I'm going to be honest with you guys. I'm scared of what Patrice. I did not want to know what Patrice had to say about some stuff. I would love it for a second, but like, oh, my God. But, yeah, I mean, of course, I wish that he hadn't have died.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Well, we'd go both ways. Patrice would make me feel dumb, you know, like for being a, I don't know, political comedian or something. But he'd make all my enemies feel dumb, too. Absolutely. That's what he did, you know, for sure. Yeah, now I feel like when you said Chris Farley, like, I'll tell you another one, though, for real.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And this, I wouldn't give this his final answer, but, like, Heath Ledger really was going to be something. Yeah, that's a good one. And he was like, you know, it's kind of wild, like, you know, therefore, not in the same way of McConaughey, but like he came out the gate such a like, oh, this dude's going to be a teeny bopper type thing. And then as soon as he wasn't that, it's like, holy shit, he's not that. And yeah, I mean, you think about what he would be doing right now on the heels of having won an
Starting point is 00:19:19 Oscar for, you know, the dark night or what he, he definitely would have still wanted if he'd have lived. But yeah, actually, I think Heath Ledger might be mine, because you're right. Keith Whitley would have ended up pissing me off. Heath Ledger would have just like, even if he'd have. Heath Ledger said shit in real life that pissed me off. As long as he could do the shit on screen to hit from me, I could get past it. You know, I was sitting there thinking our fans are going to be annoyed.
Starting point is 00:19:43 We're not saying more women. But then I was like, damn, who died young? I got Amy White House. Janice Joplin. And Janice Joplin. And Selena, she got murdered. Yeah, and like, I don't even know one of her songs. Well, she was a pop star.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah. But I'm just, I think that, like, I don't know what it is living the way. They're smarter than we are. It might be that. It might be like they're not a lot like they know. that they can't act like that. Like Heath Ledger was fucking, you know, to become the Dark Night was doing a bunch of fucking drugs.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It might be harder for them to get away with acting that way. That's a really good point because like when you, it's not like method acting. Method acting used to be this thing. It's like, oh my God, did you hear Daniel Day Lewis does that? Now it's like it's kind of an accepted thing and a lot of people are doing it. I don't really hear of it. And I'm saying this is a good thing because that shit can piss me off.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Like I don't hear a lot of stories about women the way you hear the stories about Daniel Day Lewis and were like Jim Carrey like completely staying in character like the greatest actress like almost objectively of all time is Merrill Streep right and you never hear any of that shit like about her it's just like she just comes to play and then you don't hear any of the insane like yeah Merrill made us push her in a hammock for nine hours so that she could get into character to you know what I mean like you don't you don't that came from somewhere but like but like but I think that's to your point though is that that like Merrill and any woman in Hollywood is smart enough to know, like, yeah, I'll be
Starting point is 00:21:08 considered hard to work with. Of course. Like, they, like a man, they'll be like, what an artist, this is just what he's got to do to get that out. But if a woman does everybody, is like, you know what, bitch, you ain't worth it. But, like, when you see these young starlets, Lindsay Lohan comes to mine or in the music world, I mean, I don't know if Brittany got on drugs or just had a mental health breakdown or both. Brittany Murphy was one that died young.
Starting point is 00:21:31 That's true. She was. Well, what I was going to say is there's less drugs. drug overdoses, I think, among women. Is that just, what is that? I don't know. Again, I just think they're smarter. I mean, I'm not trying to pander, but men have that, like, death wish more than women. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:21:47 That's true. I mean, also, like, toxic masculinity, we got to do more than you. Well, I do think there's that, too, like, culturally, like, you know, say what you want. Like, obviously, we all strive for equality, but, like, it's where we're from. There is more pressure on men to provide. and be the one and yada yada yada and like regardless of if that's right it doesn't matter if that's right or not it is true and i think that a lot of those pressures can like mount on you whereas that doesn't with some women i'm not by the way i'm not saying that doesn't that women don't have pressure
Starting point is 00:22:20 i'm just saying you know he means it guys put it on black and white tray uh i think that uh just being completely honest whether i get pushed back in a bad way or not janice joplin my wife loves her Her voice was incredible. She didn't write a lot of those songs. She was essentially a pop slash blues musician who, and she's talked about this in her life. Yeah, I mean, Christopherson were her best song. So. Also, that voice would have gone away.
Starting point is 00:22:46 She was screaming. Maybe, but, you know, I just, she wouldn't be my answer. No. Amy Winehouse, I know people are obsessed with fucking Amy Winehouse. Yeah, she's great. I liked Amy Winehouse, but I wasn't obsessed with it. I wasn't obsessed with her either, but like she definitely, uh, she was a true artist. Oh, no, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:23:03 liked her and like anytime any of her shit came on like I was definitely wrote it all yeah no I know she dude she was like Taylor Swift on fucking drugs Jim Croce Jim Crocee Jim Crocee would be a good one and I say that because I mean if you know if we own a sailboat but but say what you said to me about him the other day so the story this is fucking wild and it's I think it kind of goes against the theory that he's a good answer for this question no it doesn't because I think that he could have succeeded in that the thing so Jim Crocey a lot of people know, famous for photographs and memories, all the...
Starting point is 00:23:36 Bad Bad, Bad Lee Roy Brown. I got a name. Was he time in a bottle? Yes. And that album is... All these songs were talking about it on one album. I think I do that. I don't know that this...
Starting point is 00:23:52 You're pain all over you? Yeah, there's pain all over me. The rumor that I've heard for a long time and I've seen it attributed to some of people that said it was that he wrote that album in one like basically like a 30 hour period in this hotel. So he does that. He shoots to fame.
Starting point is 00:24:10 He's very young. If you look at Jim Croce, you will think, oh, that man is 57 years old. But he was like 25, right? Yeah, 25 or 26th. Because he was how they made them back in Vietnam. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And so he died in a plane crash. And pretty famously, he had just sent his wife a letter from the road telling her that that was going to be his last gig, because he didn't want to travel anymore. He still wanted to write songs, but he wanted to get more into like novellas and screenplays and film and television
Starting point is 00:24:39 and shit like that. And literally coming back from his last gig, he crashes and dies. Oh, you're saying he's a good answer because you would have liked to see him how all the rest of that shit turned out. Yes, because the thing... Well, no, but here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:24:51 If that didn't work out, he would have gone back to music. Sure. You know what I'm saying? I do think, and I'm not saying Jim Carters this way, but I think a lot of these, like John K. Zelle were talking about earlier, a lot of these people, for sure,
Starting point is 00:25:01 sure like they did their shit and then they got it yeah the fact that they died young leave a good looking corpse that type of thing like if they would have stuck around stand they would have stand hope used to have that went down stand you hope used to have that great bit and it was like about kirk cobain all then they're like man can you imagine what he goes he goes you ever think that maybe they were out of shit yeah he goes do you want to know what kirk koban will be doing right now he'd be doing the half time show at the super bowl and you'd fucking hate him that's what kirk kobain would be doing right now i did not remember that bit but i was about to say i would not bring Kirk Cobain back because I think like JFK he's better to us dead yeah for sure man
Starting point is 00:25:35 like because I mean dude Kirk Cobain right now would be 50 years old now it's possible some of his letters that I've seen people like you know circulate on the internet you had a lot of you know ideas I agree with yeah me too but who knows if he'd have kept having them goddamn ideas I know because like you know who knows we'd have got the foo fighter a lot of them gen Xers be that way right Yeah. I know a lot of people hate the foo fighters. I mean, I've always... When it comes to fucking elevator rock, there ain't nothing better, do you?
Starting point is 00:26:04 I mean, I've always said that they're better Nirvana. Oh, they're definitely better than Nirvana. I'm not being funny. Like, I'm glad that Kurt Cobain killed himself so that we got... I don't mean that. But I do... I mean, I don't think of me about the foo fighters. They're better banned.
Starting point is 00:26:19 They're just... They're a nothing band to me, but they're the best at it. They're dad rock for that generation, but they're the best. I mean, they are the best. They're better than cold play. They're cooler than cold play, and they're like, better. musically than everybody else. Dude, they're fucking, they're awesome and also Dave Grohl.
Starting point is 00:26:33 You know what? I'd fucking rather listen to them to the killers most of the time. Past the first three killer songs that are good. And Dave Grohl, by all accounts, is just a rad fucking dude and a nice fucking dude. Yeah. So, like, yeah, of course food fighters are better Nirvana. Literally, everybody knows that. This is sort of related to something I was going to bring up.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I was thinking about the other day. It's like somebody, it's not the, like, you never know what's going to happen way later in some artist's lives, because I was thinking the other day that it's pretty wild that one of the objectively biggest, most massive commercial smashes of the 90s was Santana. Yeah. Supernatural. Number two, Billboard song of all time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And he put it, like, because, you know, he had been like a 70s guy or whatever, like rocking and shit back then. Aerosmith got it back in the 90s, too. That happened. Right. But, like, Aerosmith, I feel like, Arrowsmith was on another level, January than Santana. And he was old and shit by then, and hadn't done nothing in forever. And then just puts out this fucking mega super album with all these collabos on it.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And it's, like, one of the biggest albums ever made. And that's just, and he didn't do that again afterwards, I don't think, really. He didn't invent the collabo thing. But he definitely, like, popular. Like, nobody was doing that where he got in these big names. I mean, and what's the DJ who does it now? Caled. Caled?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. Like, I think that being new, got it airplay. The song's being good, got it popular. He also is like a guitar virtuoso. He's not just like an aggregator of talent. Do you all know? I'm trying to say, if he put out a guitar virtuoso album, nobody would have noticed. No, hell no.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And the collabo thing was obviously to get people to notice, but nobody else was doing that back then as far as I know. Like, that was a new, interesting thing and got people listening and got it. airplay and then because it was good it went out like i don't think you could recapture that i guess is what i'm saying right did y'all know that carlo santana and rob thomas are about to release a follow-up what no i didn't know that i saw a host yeah that's weird because i just brought that up randomly it had nothing they putting out smooth too yep smooth too's coming out yep smooth too i think it's called too smooth this time yeah this time it's crunchy no i'm not serious they should though
Starting point is 00:28:57 It should be called too smooth, too serious. Yeah, too smooth, too furious. Or just crunchy. Yeah, yeah, but like. Smooth too would have to. I mean, here's the thing. There's literally no way it lives up, but I'm excited that it's happening. Just smooth, but like one of the O's is a two.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah, I'm for that. Is it? No, the S. No, the S is a two. S-M-U-U-T-H. Oh, yeah. Two U-S. And they're the only lower-case ones.
Starting point is 00:29:22 No, with a V, like that, like Eric, what's his name, says smoothies. Like, J-B-S-M-B-S-E. smooth. Yeah, what's that guy's name on Workaholics? You've worked with him before. Eric Griffin. Eric Griffin. It's one of my favorite bits on Workaholics.
Starting point is 00:29:34 He sells smoothies because he's like, why people love smoothies. I'm about to make a bunch of money selling smoothies. You work with him? But he's smashed dicks, didn't he? Yeah, yeah, he was great. Yeah, nice guy too. Everybody says you great. He's funny looking.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, for sure. So are we talking about, like, they're doing another jam together, and so it's like the spiritual successor to Smoo? I believe so. Okay. Yeah. So not smooth to. I mean, to me it's smooth to.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah. In my heart, it'll always be smooth too. It's smooth to the same way that hot fuzz was Sean of the Dead too. Yeah. You know what I mean? Spirio. Spiritual successor. It's a spiritual successor.
Starting point is 00:30:11 It's a spiritual successor, yes, absolutely. Well, I say that. I don't know. It might be smooth too. I mean, why fucking reinvent the wheel, you know, if they, like, and that's, dude, between hearing that and also hearing that Jennifer Anison and David swimmer or dating. It's like the world is really trying to heal. You know what I mean? Well, it's a fucking, I'll forget the word.
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Starting point is 00:37:42 cool i mean i'm not sure i'm sure it was good yeah i doubt it was cool and i'm not even trying to be a dick what do you mean the friends reunion couldn't possibly have been cool it was cool to me but I'm, but I'm not, I'm not cool. Right. Yeah, no. Me neither. Okay. It wasn't cool in the sense of like, TikTok, neon stuff, the weekend.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I thought it was cool because I'm 33. You know what I mean? But no, it wasn't cool. But I enjoyed it. And I'm sorry that I did. Why? Because of you. I didn't say it was bad.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'm saying there's no way it was cool. It wasn't. It was, okay, it was a cool. reunion. Well, they didn't do the whole, like, they didn't do, like a lot of people when they do a reunion. It sounds like a podcast. It kind of was. But like, but they were like, so a lot of people when they do reunions, they like try to write another episode and see where everybody's at. Yeah. They didn't do that. What they did was they sat on a couch and told stories, but then they would talk about like their favorite scenes and then it would cut away to them all do in table reads
Starting point is 00:38:46 now of those scenes. And you really got to see them like turn it off. on again and like dude Lisa Cudrow fucking absolutely destroyed. Well her and Swimmer are the best actors. Absolutely. Dude, dude Ross is the funniest motherfucker on that show. We've been saying it. I mean, like here's a little inside
Starting point is 00:39:04 whatever. If you guys want to go listen to our pilot right now, Dead Pilot Society is a podcast and if you pay their Patreon you can see the video I think of us reading it. That is true. And we had conversations during that where I said to Andrew who was
Starting point is 00:39:20 one of the headwriters of friends once upon a time, you're trying to Ross me, and he was like, you don't want to be Ross? He was the best one. And I said, no, no, I can't. I can't fucking do that, dude. That dude is so fucking good at being, like, you know, goofy or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Goofy, but thinks that he knows what's up, you know what I mean? Right. I can be arrogant and think I know what's up. I can't pull off the goofball point. Right. But apparently, like, during the Friends reunion, and also during the Friends reunion, they like, they let it be.
Starting point is 00:39:50 known to the world, which I guess nobody had known previously. Like on the set, they had like kind of an on again, off again thing when she wasn't with like fucking Brad Pitt or whatever. That's so funny. But he is Ross. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:03 He is. But he's not a good actor. He's up there being himself. Exactly. But then they, they, I guess, like, on the set of the reunion, they started talking and they went down memory lane and now they're dating. And, you know, I hate to. I know this isn't this podcast, but like, I'm just really excited about it.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That's cute. It just makes me. so happy. It's real adorable. I mean, obviously, like, for years I've been wanting her and Rachel. Well, no, I've been actually wanting her and Brad Pitt to get back together just because I like to think about them boning. But, like, this is definitely the next best thing. And now that I think about it, it's actually better because, like, David Schwimmer needs this more than Brad Pitt. Oh, yeah. For sure. That reminds me of something that I kind of wanted to bring up to y'all about women when we were talking about bringing back the Joplin and them. Dude,
Starting point is 00:40:50 of all the things that's unfair for being a woman in this universe, what about how, like, we do just age better? Brad Pitt looks 37. Me and Katie were just talking about this the other night because we were watching TV. Well, Brad Pitt's had work. Sure, but so is Jennifer Anderson. You will. So she hasn't aged well?
Starting point is 00:41:12 She has. Yeah. He looks younger. Brad Pitt looks younger than Jennifer. As a general rule. I'm not like happy about it. Dude, as a general rule, yeah, you're right. just one of those cosmic unfairnesses that they have to deal with.
Starting point is 00:41:24 It's facial hair and makeup. Men age better. What I've heard. What I've heard, this kind of changed my perspective. I don't know. Dude, it's funny because I've actually thought it was your wife that said this to me. It might have been. I think there's three reasons, but go ahead.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I really think that it was because I think I said something like, why is it that men age better than women? And I want to say it was Andy. If it's not, it was someone who was in the Andy. camp was just like they don't it's just that we as a society allow them to in other words when we when george cloney we go what a salt and pepper silver fox but with a woman we go we see one wrinkle and they go old to be clear that's exactly what katie was so i think that's true that's part of like i still think one of the three in my opinion reasons yeah i just that's what me and katy
Starting point is 00:42:13 having a conversation it was the same thing she was like yeah every a pretty one like a good looking woman is supposed to look 25. Right. Right. So when they don't, it's like, what's going on there? But Paul Newman, a dude. When Paul Newman was gray-haired and wrinkly, everybody was like, he still got it. People lose the shit.
Starting point is 00:42:31 That's what I'm saying. People just losing their minds over it. It's that we let men age. I know, but I don't think that makes it not true, though. I think it's like, it's still true. You're just explaining it. What's that? Dame Maria.
Starting point is 00:42:42 She's an actress. Oh, oh. Oh, God damn. Gray-haired. Yes. Helen Mirren? Helen Mirren. So fine.
Starting point is 00:42:47 So fine. So, like, but it's part. I don't need to get gross, but that's one of my tops. So, all right. Right. And she's old and got gray hair and wrinkles. I prefer it. I prefer it. Well, here's what I think.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I think that what y'all are getting at, I think the ideal man, like if you look to the top 50 sexiest people alive, a lot of the men are about 35 and a lot of the women are 25. Right. So that's the sexist part. This is related to sexism. All my way, and I'm not trying to just curry favor with women right now. I genuinely prefer older, busted-looking braweds. I'm not trying to curry favor Busted looking broads
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah don't worry buddy I think you'll be all right I'm just saying like Right now I would take fucking Okay I don't mean I was in the words of Burke Crusher Get you an old bitch like I got That's what you need
Starting point is 00:43:36 Like I've always Like I would prefer Like dude right now As someone's like who do you find More sexually attractive Helen Mirren or in I literally don't know the name of one 22-year-old actress. I'm almost never attracted to a 22-year-old dude.
Starting point is 00:43:53 That's what I'm saying. I don't know. But I will absolutely admit that a 28-year-old... Yes, yes. But, like, I'm more attracted to Hellamarin. I'm more attracted to Dine Lane. I'm more attracted to Meryl Streep. I think I got, like... Than like, Selma Hayek and Desperado?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Selma Hyac is that... But in Desperado. That's different. I mean, Selma Hyack's still out there doing it. Oh, I know. I know. I know. But she looks unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:44:13 No, no, no, perfect example. I think she's hotter now. I think she was hotter now. Then Hesperado? I thought hitman's bodyguard was the hottest, almost any human being has ever been. All right. We'll table that for a moment because I want to do my other two to see what y'all think about it. I think Jennifer Frensen looks better than she's ever looked.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I think makeup ages, people, and they have to wear makeup and men don't. We get to grow, and then the third one is related to that, facial hair. Right. You can age into. I look younger. So I think we have less wrinkles because of makeup. I think makeup gives them more wrinkles. And then I think as you grow a beard out, actually, I was doing a bit about this one.
Starting point is 00:44:47 DJ and I first started back on tour. My beers are the weirdest thing because they made me look older when I wanted to look older, and now they make me look younger when I wanted to look younger. I look younger right now than I did like four years ago. Now I look younger 10 years ago than I do now, but four years ago. Actually, you're right? No, honestly. Because that's like when I met you.
Starting point is 00:45:08 No, I know. And I've said a million times it's true. I 100% in my heart believed you were a 42-year-old road dog truck driver comic. I look better now. I think facial hair has lots to do with that. And you were 23 or whatever. Around the time we bet when you were 23. I shaved for the first time in a while,
Starting point is 00:45:28 and it was the first time I shaved and looked older. Oh, older, yeah. And I never remember. I shaved. And Rick called me a Wallace-Angromit-looking motherfucker. He said, look at this. Motherfucker looks like Wallace and Grommet. Oh, that's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:45:43 This is the funniest thing he's ever said. But it was great. Yeah. I may have said that on stage and accidentally stolen Rick's joke. Sorry, Rick. That's hilarious. But, I mean, again, like, I think it was Andy that said that. And I do believe that that's 100% true where it's like, to me, it's like, no, Diane Lane and George Clooney age the exact same.
Starting point is 00:46:01 It's just that we accept it with George Clooney and we don't accept it with Diane Lane. But I do think she probably has more wrinkles and it's either they're more. That motherfucker got a wrinkly foe head? He does. I was going to say, either they're more visible because his beard's covering him up or just he didn't be wearing makeup his whole fucking life. Yeah. Well, yes. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Male actors wear as much makeup as women, except for, like, when they're not on set, they're not. Right. But, like... So, no, they don't. But also, it's the work with them, like, dude, Robloe literally looks... Literally. Literally.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally, literally looks 27 years old. It does. It's... But, you know, I think... That joke.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He's had... He's had... He's had good work done. You know what I mean? Like, some people you can see out there, and they just got the wrong person. Some people get the wrong person. right person. This also me and Katie were talking about because what got...
Starting point is 00:46:49 How did they ever get a bad person? How does that ever happen? You know what I think? Rich and famous people. Some people make mistakes, I think. And also... Also, that is a fucking shame, dog. Yeah, and also, you know...
Starting point is 00:46:59 You got all the money in the world and all these connections. You're like, I want that person's guy and you go to the same guy and then you come out looking like a fucking mannequin or whatever. You know how like... It's also it's an art form, right? Yeah. And part of that is you're the palate. So it might be like, sorry, Joe.
Starting point is 00:47:14 It might be like he got more skin, you know, to fix on. So we stretched it look great. Then somebody come in with less skin, they stretch it. And it's like, right. Like if you fuck me up, they could just be like, well, we'll just take a little bit from over here, put it back over here. You know what I mean? Even my shit out. Also, but you know, like, you know, your body can reject fake titties and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And people demand shit, too, of them. And then what are you going to do? They're the customer. Yeah, like that Versacee lady or something. Like that Versace lady or whatever that now looks like the. Base player for the Muppet ban? Some people are extreme cases where it's like, it's like they get addicted to it, like you get addicted to getting tattoos or something.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And obviously, yeah, those people. They need help. Eldridge terrors, yeah, they look awful. But sometimes. You just can't see them anymore. Yeah, but sometimes it's people that ain't that old. And, like, overnight, you're like, well, they clearly have work done and it's bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And I just, it's wild to me that that ever happens. I know, I know. I think. Because so many people look great. What? And they're also. But sometimes it's like, it's not that. they look bad because you go, I bet you if I saw this person brand new, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:48:19 that's what's up. But it's that they don't look like themselves anymore. Yeah. And so you're like, you're like, like, okay, this is not, because I love her, but like, I think that one of the biggest examples of this, and I think it ruined her career for a minute, Meg Ryan. Meg Ryan had surgery and literally did not, she could have walked in, she could have just walked around for the next two weeks and no one would have fucking known that that was Meg Ryan if nobody had like been like, hey look at the before picture of her and the after picture. So, like, I think, but, like, she didn't look bad afterwards at all. She was still important.
Starting point is 00:48:51 She looked like Nicole Kidman. Right. Hey, Cho. Right, yeah. We're getting a low battery warning on the top here. Yeah, that's probably because I didn't plug it in. Thank you, Trey. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Trey, while he's doing that, did you say who you would pick? Did I miss it? For coming back to life? Yeah. I said Chris Farley. I'm not like, I'm not saying I'm married final answer to that, but it's the best one I've got right now. I definitely think Chris Farley had a lot of hits left in the tank. I think we should pick one per genre.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Maybe we should do this for the next episode. Pick one out of like five genres. You know what I'm saying? Or, hey, I got... Like pick a musician, pick an actor, pick a direct, or whatever. I got a new one too. Let's assume that every artist that's died was coming back for this, and you get to prevent one from coming back.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Who do you go with? Bill Hicks, I think. I think Bill Hicks would be like... I'm not saying he's my final choice, but he's definitely going into the fucking first round, dude. That's so funny. Dude, am I wrong? Am I wrong? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I feel like I know why you're saying that, and I think Bill Hicks already inspired enough edge lord bullshit. That's mainly why. It's not the what he would say. I'm saying I think that he already, I don't know that you could, I don't know that him having a few more years would have led to even more of that. Yeah, that's true. Because I think that it happened about at the level it could possibly happen. Also, people like him, so it has. are a resident contrarian. People like him
Starting point is 00:50:15 are so contrarian. Look at Stanhope. I mean, Stanhope is like very publicly like, yeah, libertarianism is insane. Why did I push it so hard when I was younger? Because I was arrogant and I thought everybody should go fuck off. Right. I think that once... Hicks would have adapted with the time. And the reason that happened with Stahope is
Starting point is 00:50:31 because he started hating his fucking fans pretty openly. He was like, yeah, they're all fucking nightmares. I think that would have happened with Hicks and then it would have changed him some. He still could be your answer because he's still... A lot of people think he's Alex Jones. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And obviously I don't, but I do love... That's a conspiracy theory. Are you serious? I never... No. People think Bill Hicks turned into it. Like, literally, Alex Jones used to be Bill Hicks. Faked his own death and then started doing that.
Starting point is 00:50:56 No, I've never heard that before. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. Obviously, that's stupid. But, like, there's a video on it. And, like, he do kind of be looking like what Bill Hicks would look like if he was fat when they do like this up. It's...
Starting point is 00:51:08 And time and wise, I don't believe in none of this shit. And time and wise, he went to Texas to die and then a few years later. Alex Jones crap. Like, dude, again, you can, anybody with enough time and a fucking quest board can make something look like something. Absolutely. But, like, it's one of the more fun ones to just entertain. And by entertain, I don't mean, like, actually entertain the fact that it's real.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Just to, like, look at it and be like, yeah, I mean, okay, if I showed this to someone that was kind of insane, I could see, you know, they've got the same kind of style, you know? Totally. I wouldn't, it's not because of his body of work, because that was finished, but, uh, I sure would like to have McNair back, just in general. And he was an artist. Yeah, he was. They said he was, you know, he was, you know, when he died, he just opened that restaurant in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And they said he would fucking wash dishes and all that shit every day coming in there. I know, it's upset. I wish you had to done that. Fourth of July, dude. Yeah. I saw Neil Diamond play that day. My friend Christina was in Boston to see us and we're not friends anymore. I was drunk on the lake and it ruined that.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah. I was at the punchline in Atlanta, the old room. And I was walking in. And, oh, boy that used to work the door, he, Brooklyn guy. He just, he was, I was walking up and he was fucking smoking a cigarette. And he looked at me. And like, he knew that I knew and I knew that he knew. And he just looked at me and he goes, over a fucking skirt.
Starting point is 00:52:40 over a fucking skirt and I was just like I know dude Robin Williams would be a good answer on that yeah that's true he was old you know it's like he did have a good career well I guess it's like 50 more years of them
Starting point is 00:52:54 in their prime they're allowed to keep hitting maybe that's not the that ain't the question right the question was because that's like freezing someone actually and the thing was they said it's not that 50 years of their prime
Starting point is 00:53:08 it's just they get 50 more years They get 50 more years. Tupac gets to live to 7 to 7. Right. Right. So, yeah, Robin Williams. Yeah, Robin Williams actually can't be your answer. But, you know, like, yeah, this is, it really is interesting.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Like, the whole time you brought that up, I've been sitting here racking my brain trying to think of more women that that happened to. And it's like, I go Marilyn Monroe, Britney Murphy, Amy Winehouse. I mean, Princess Dye came up, and then I remember she's not even an artist. She was just famous. I do not want any of them type motherfuckers to have 50 more years. Dude, I was just thinking. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Wasn't she, you know. She was. I think we turned her into that. I think she's like... I mean, I just remember that whole age-patient thing. That was before she died and that was a really big deal. She did some good stuff for sure. But I'm just saying like there's no way I'm picking her for this.
Starting point is 00:53:52 No, fuck royalty. Now, if someone says, do you wish she wasn't dead? Absolutely. But like, yeah. I'm with Joe. I would rather have Prince till he's 100. Prince is pretty good. He had a...
Starting point is 00:54:02 He was old though. See, he's no one. I feel like... Listen, I wish Prince was still alive. But I don't think that... I don't think Prince was going to start putting... out bangers like he did back in the day. And again, I don't care how much more time he had.
Starting point is 00:54:13 We've probably got more of his music by here. Yeah, but really what you need to do here is someone who had not peaked yet. Right. And like Heath, like Heath Ledger had not at, the motherfucker was 27 years old. He was only going to become a better actor. All right. It's not my answer, but I got to bring up Pop Smoke. Pop Smoke was one of my favorite, like top three young rappers.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah. And he only had one album out when he got killed because he accidentally put his his fucking address on Instagram. Yeah. He hit, Nipsey. it. Nipsey did him. I don't really fuck with this guy.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And he seemed like a good dude too, so he could have really done a lot for the world. Man, all right, but going back to the who would I not bring back? I was going to say the guy from Sublime. But then I realized, him dying, I'm trying to work this out in my head. It's almost like a logic question.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Him dying made his fans more annoying. Yeah, because they would have just eventually gotten over him. He would, they would be less annoying. Yeah, because they would have gotten over. They would realize that he just don't hit. So I wouldn't stop him from coming back. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Because they don't hit for me. I like how you got there. But, but yeah, no, that's a... I went to law school. That's not a bad one. I don't, I'm trying, I mean, I'm sure I do have an answer to that. Basically, what I'm asking you to say is, who is it that you're glad is dead. It's good instead.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah. But you've got to base it on people's rack. with Hicks and with the sublime, you got to, you got to think about, like, the implications, right. It's the implication.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It's the implication. Are there other, like, big country stars? I mean, other like Hank Williams on him back in the day, but like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:55 big country stars that died when they were just starting to hit or anything. Keith Willie is the one I said, I know, but I'm saying, like, because I bet one of them, it's probably okay.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Oh, yeah. I do you know what I mean? I do, dude, it's probably okay that Hank Williams died when he did. yeah i don't know man that no 50 more years he was only 20 so do 50 more years but then 50 more years of him he just he then he becomes hank williams junior before hank williams junior even book you what i mean like it's it's almost like god damn how many more hits could that motherfucker have had dude sometimes people dying it ain't like a good thing but in terms of their memory
Starting point is 00:56:31 yeah like james dean yeah you know is an absolute icon and i just don't think he would be if he get lived to be, no, 80 or whatever. I mean, he might be, but like, part of the lore is that he died.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yeah, right. Marilyn Monroe, same way, dude. Yeah. Not that she didn't hit. It's just that, like, inarguably, like Sharon Tate,
Starting point is 00:56:51 perfect example, like inarguably, the thing that they're most famous for now is the fact that they died way young. Nobody said Jimmy Hendrickson. I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:56:58 I'd been a good one. But that'd have been a good one. He really was kind of transcended. He definitely would have been a good one. Oh, leave Jim Morrison dead. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:08 sure leave Jim Morrison dead. Dude, oh, leave John Lennon dead too. Yeah, kill John Lennon quicker. Oh, my God. Who would have known that this would really make Drew just catch a heater? Yeah, I know, right. It's not Taylor made to his sensibilities.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I mean, there's probably are other people that I'm glad they're dead. but the Jim Morrison's a really, that's a first round. One of our fans is probably going to be like no one mentions Harvey Milk. Okay. He was an artist. We did say artists, not people.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Well, it was definitely, right? Well, you mentioned JFK earlier. Well, let's try to draw comparisons of people who died. It's good they died for their memory or legacy. Yeah. But hold up. We did just mean artists, right? Because we had not brought up like MLK or anything.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Right. That's funny. Because I was like, well, I did bring up McNair. Right, right. Artist. Just nobody. I think the tweet was asking for artists because it was like 50 more years of their work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:24 You know, like they're, you know, like the hits. Yeah. And I'm trying to like, yeah, James Dean probably, why would you bring him back? Like that would be the point. You know, Jim Morrison. Marlon Brando's in the corner because he sucked my dick better than anyone ever has. Because, like, you know, James Dean kept living, like, he probably, a couple of, like, Steve McQueen movies would have been James Dean movies instead or something like that.
Starting point is 00:58:49 You know what the main, like, Steve McQueen, who is a representative for all of us with big foreheads. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, no, I mean, he'd have kept doing it, too, but I'm just saying, like, you know, I don't know how many, like, objective works of genius we missed out on. I would bring Kid Rock back. because he's dead to you yeah you know what Josie
Starting point is 00:59:10 put Kid Rock's Mizz on that list that's what ruin Kid Rock has Midge it died yeah I've been trying to do a joke about it and it's you'd be surprised even sometimes when I'm in front of not our fans they don't like this bit I mean it's what happened to Kid Rock
Starting point is 00:59:27 The timeline actually checks out and then that happened and now he like goes on Fox in a fedora Dude for real though because How can you go on believing in hope and optimistic and the goodness of people. And your literal good luck charm. Yeah. He was three foot nine with a ten foot dick, too.
Starting point is 00:59:42 All I'm saying is he died in the 90s, like in 2000s, whatever. Yeah. Well, it was a different time. No, I know, because, like, he was there for a ball with the ball. You know what I mean? Yes. And then... I believe he helped write it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 His fucking music started suckers. Well, he was his muse. He was his muse. He was his muse. Yeah. And here's the thing. Most people win something like that, something real trash. Pagic happens. What do you do? You do drugs and start having like dangerous sick. Kid Rock was already doing that.
Starting point is 01:00:10 So he got into politics. It was the only way for him to like fall apart was just like worry about immigration. Oh, dude, that's actually a really good point. That's what happened to Kid Rock. Shout out to Sloblerhose who helped me work on this bit and theory. Okay. So bring Kid Rock back from the dead where he is. Bring Joe C back. Bring Joe C back. And then it would say so save Kid Rock. And then nobody would shit themselves at Big Rock. Kid Rock's big. honky tonk or whatever the fuck it's called. Yeah. Right. A racist butterfly flaps his wings.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Yeah. Now I'm like a shame that I said Keith Whitley because you're definitely right. Like Keith Whitley If he, if he, yeah, it's definitely Joe C over Keith Whitley because like because like dude, when Keith Whitley died, he was married to Lori Morgan. He was
Starting point is 01:00:57 about to do some problematic shit. Yeah. So, but like his, man like you, y'all know how he died, right? Did you just drink himself to death? Yes, but like the way in which he drank himself to death. So like he was a, I mean, this motherfucker was only like 27. He was a horrible alcoholic.
Starting point is 01:01:14 So much so that like all his country music friends and Lori Morgan were like, buddy, god damn. So at night when they were sleeping in the bed together, Lori Morgan would handcuff them together in the bed so that if he tried to get up, it would wake her up. So he started drinking her. That's why women. Age worse. Jesus Christ. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I know. So she would handcuff them to each other. Yes. So she would know if he was trying to get up. Yes. Which that's a sweet thing. But he started drinking her perfume on the nightstand. Fucking God damn.
Starting point is 01:01:50 He was drinking her perfume. And when he died, him and his brother, like she had like you couldn't, she wouldn't let there be any alcohol in the house, like no booze or whatever. Like she would check the fridge and everywhere every day. His brother was coming to pick him. him up to go play golf and he found him like in his living room passed out and there was like five empty bottles of rubbing alcohol on the ground god and that's what killed him yeah dude jesus i mean i don't know that it was five but it was like he he drank himself to death but on like
Starting point is 01:02:21 it's not like he was chugging jack daniel's like that's how bad it had gotten you know what i mean yeah perfume dude well ironically this was very sobering yeah i mean i'm a key I've got to stop drinking rubbing alcohol. Well, hey, it is actually time to get out of here. On that note. Yeah, yeah. Everybody kick the chair out from under you and go to well-readcom. W-E-L-L-R-E-D Comedy.com.
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