wellRED podcast - #257 Tanning Beds and Video Stores: A Match Made in Heaven!

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

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Starting point is 00:04:38 I was like, they were like, oh, we use this cratum stuff. They're like, what do you do? I go, oh, well, it gives me energy. And they're like, oh, you mean like Adderall or something like that? And I'm like, no, because that gives you, like, you just, you feel on edge the whole time. This is not that. It's a natural, it's like a tub-birth way into getting energy.
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Starting point is 00:08:15 but they got three big old dicks that you can. So here we are. Here we are. We're in Corey's hotel room in Indianapolis, Indiana. I joked about this on stage tonight, but I wanted to ask y'all about it. So like, this is true. So I grew up in Salina, Tennessee, rural Tennessee, and on both sides of my family, I had, like, my grandparents' generation. They had, like, both my grandparents on both sides.
Starting point is 00:08:47 they had siblings who had years ago moved to Indiana, not Indianapolis, but moved to Indiana for, so this is, that's why I, that's why I wanted to bring it up. But I've heard about this phenomenon. So I had family in Indiana growing up and it's always like, why'd they move to Indiana for work, you know, and so I joked about it on stage tonight. I was like, so yeah, when I was a fucking white trash kid in Sline,
Starting point is 00:09:12 I was like, oh, Indiana, the land of opportunity. You know, that's like the, the, Golden Plains of Indiana. And then you find out later as an adult like, oh, Indiana don't hit. No, you know, I mean, hell, Indiana don't not hit. But you know what I mean? Indiana don't not hit the same way that everywhere else don't hit. That the South don't not.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah, exactly. It's the middle finger. It's the middle finger of the South. That's what people say. Just in case Will Red fan, Drew Powell, who plays the Penguins bodyguard, his name is escaping me in Gotham. My buddy is listening right now. You're great and you're from Indiana, but everything else don't hit.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So I was just wondering, like, I was wondering if y'all had any experience. They're in Cincinnati, son. Yours are in Cincinnati? All of mine was, all of mine was just Indiana for whatever reason. And so I wonder, like, what that was about, or if y'all had any experience with that or anything, like why people fled to Indiana? My dad's uncle, Thurman, was it Thurman or Thomas? One went to Indiana, one went to Texas. Great Bill's running back.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yes. That's hilarious. Yeah, Walter Thurman. We play Walter Thurman every Christmas here. Thurman Thomas. Okay. Walter Thurman was a World War II soldier. Dude.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I don't know, but Thurman Thomas was a bad. Thurman Thomas has been forgotten about, matter of fact. He was a bad motherfucker. Thomas was his name. His name was Thurman Thomas. You got a papal name Thurman Thomas? I got an uncle, great uncle named Thurman Thomas. Well, look at that.
Starting point is 00:10:39 So what my theory on it is, is that Indiana. Oh, no, I was in the middle of mine. Oh, my bad. Go ahead. Thurman Thomas was who left. Okay, right, we got off on a thing. Broke a bunch of tackles on his way. Went to run, yeah, be a running back.
Starting point is 00:10:51 He went to Indiana for a job. I know it was for a union type gig that paid a lot by the hour. Now, the story was always, yeah, but then you get up there and you kind of afford nothing. The cost of living's too much. In Indiana. But they never came back, so I don't know if I believe that. Cincinnati was on mom's side, some of her uncles.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I don't remember any of their names, but Brian has a shit ton of family in Cincinnati, and he was saying that there's a bunch of Valls fans and West Virginia fans because a bunch of fucking hillbillies end up in Cincinnati. Now, West Virginia makes sense because it's real close. Obviously, Kentucky, it's right across the line. But it's just because they had plants. They had factories. That's the word I'm looking for.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I want to circle back to Chicago in a minute because you reminded me of something, but go ahead and share your story, Corey. So, my theory is that Indiana, while they fought for the Union during the Civil War, afterwards became actually Southern sympathetic and so a lot of Southerners escape the Reconstructionists by moving to
Starting point is 00:11:58 Indiana which was union controlled but still racist. How would they escape the Reconstructionist by going to where the Reconstructionists live? Well, I don't know. I'm pulling that out of my butt. All I'm saying is that... But are you saying it's similar to like how the North sends all their racist to the south?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Like, they all went to Indiana because they're like, no, they get it up there. Indiana was not a secession state. You know what I'm saying? So Southerners were moved there and they were like, yeah, this wasn't a state that seceded, but they're all still kind of living like they were. You know what I'm saying? So it was like the best of both worlds.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Again, pulling it straight out of my book. I think it was because of factory. It was for work for sure. I mean, that was the actual reason. I mean, it might have been like, I have to get a job because you took my slaves. Right. But all I know is like, all I know is like Indiana. was 100% in the union, but then after the Civil War, they went real Confederate, like, in their, like, ideology and shit like that. Maybe that's because so many fucking southerners moved Indiana for work.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Right. That's how it became the middle finger of the South is because we all came up here. Yeah, it's a fried chicken or the egg thing. Right. Yeah. So about... Hold on real quick aside. I just want to say something.
Starting point is 00:13:12 You just saw the Glonky video. If people don't know I'm talking about it's one of the most famous viral videos, again. guy's doing man-in-the-street interviews the interview's a guy who is clearly stone and he's doing lyrics the guy goes on Indiana land Indiana land remember that part yeah yeah that's a real fucking song
Starting point is 00:13:28 he was right does that blow your mind what he got the question okay I think you're gonna for people just for people listening I think you need to set it up a little more or just play it yeah play it's a famous viral video but it's where a dude on the street doing he's doing man on the street stuff
Starting point is 00:13:44 he interviews this guy who's clearly as high as a human being can possibly be. He was just saying something? Me too. That's a real song. Is it like a battle him? The answer to the trivia question was actually what the guy said. I don't know if that's the case or not,
Starting point is 00:14:41 but there's the longer version of that video where there's some other people involved, and three people said in Indiana land. So he was actually spitting. Spitting. Was that like a battle him or something? Back home in Indiana land sounds like some shit. the soldiers would say
Starting point is 00:14:56 when they went to die somewhere else. You're right in the mud, diarrhea and themselves to death. That's a fucking hilarious thing, by the way. Of how like to song. Soldiers dying themselves to death. Well, dude, like, you look at, like, the Civil War, like,
Starting point is 00:15:09 dude, he's so funny. But I'm just saying, like, like, you look at all the fucking, like, every single. Jim neighbors. It's a song. It's a song by Johnny Hodges, well, that's what I remember,
Starting point is 00:15:19 but, minding me of, uh, fuck, outside Providence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Giant neighbors. You know Jim Neighbors is gay. Yeah, right? George Wint said that, right?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yeah. Really? That fucking movie. He's a good singer that Jim Neighbors. I could see it. Dude, that fucking movie, I'm sure we've talked about on here. Outside Providence is one of the most underrated. Is it a Farley Brothers movie?
Starting point is 00:15:40 It is, but it isn't. It's Peter. It's just Peter. So they wrote it, right? And then they were directing it, and Harvey fucking Weinstein changed something. I'm not even sure what, because he won the argument. And they took their. name off of it and a different person got credit for directing it, but they were almost done
Starting point is 00:15:58 with it when that happened. Dude, I'm a huge Farley Brothers, Mark, and I don't know if y'all know this, but Peter Farley, because Peter Farley's been doing his own thing lately. Is it Farley or Fairly or Fairly? Fairly. It's Fairly, Fairly, yeah. It's Fairly, but you're right. It's a fairly.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Peter's been doing his own thing lately. He has. He did the show. He won an Oscar for Green Book, and everybody hated it. Everybody hated it. Yeah. You'll have that. Yeah, but he is about to do a new movie with Woody Harrelson,
Starting point is 00:16:30 who was in one of their more popular movies, Kingpin, back in the day, and Woody Harrelson is playing the coach of a Special Olympics basketball team. Oh, yeah, you brought this up. Yeah, and I'm not going to comment any further on that. I just want to tell everybody that I'm real fucking excited about how that's going to go down. The boy whose brain didn't hit. Yeah, yeah, I'm just really. real fucking excited to see that movie.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But yeah. Playing a boxing one. But outside Providence is, I don't, I don't, I've never heard anybody. Dildo. I've never, that's Baldwin, right? Baldwin calls his oldest son Dildo. You're Dildo, you fucking Dildo. He's in a wheelchair, the little hard on.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Shut up your little hot on. I've never heard anybody outside this room talk about outside Providence. Dude, I made my high school football team watch it. Nobody had heard of it. And my coach was like, where did you, that's incredible. Yeah. You get it. You told me about it and I was like, well, surely this can't hit if I didn't say it.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You guys remember video stores? I know your family had one. You remember the magic of just like looking at a box? Yes, man. Amy Smart's on the cover. Yeah. And the guy who plays Dumfey looked interesting. Sean.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Oh, oh, fuck. Dildo. Yeah, I know you're talking about I was on a plane to Atlanta with him. I flip it over. Nobody knows any of what we're talking about. Yeah, we're bullshit. Well, but they need. they remember the magic of being at a video store as a young person
Starting point is 00:17:58 and trying to decide if you would like a movie you've never seen a preview for. That was a thing. It was just on the box art, man. It was more of a thing back then. I flip it over and I read the synopsis and I think it makes a reference to his friend named drugs. And I was like, well, I'm getting this. Did you know it was called a synopsis at the time?
Starting point is 00:18:15 So one thing that used to happen a lot. Back to back! That was a butt butt butt. We had a butt butt butt butt. My dad did have a video store growing up, Crowder's video, which I grew up in, converted single wide trailer. And my dad being the way he was, one thing happened- Your video store was a single-wide trailer? A converted single-wide trailer. I never even thought to ask, but that checks out.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had Crowders on the side of it. It hit. Anyway. Of course it hit. But one thing happened with my dad a lot, I can remember, is like, because. It's amazing how hard your life fell off. You hit it?
Starting point is 00:18:52 But tell me about it. That sounds like a hit. That's just Salina in general. That's the story of Salina. Like, boy, this fell off. The football team stopped hitting, man. Everything stopped hitting. But my dad.
Starting point is 00:19:08 It's so trashy though. Hold on a real quick. It's so trashy that that was high living. He's like, God damn. But it was. But it was. Not to get all fucking. Give me one of them.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Not to get all queer about it and stuff. And y'all really had it all? But you were talking, but you were talking about. like the it is nostalgic people like there was something fucking it was great magical about walking around a video store and picking out and I'm saying like dude I wish we still had like I wish we still had one I know dude I was great hooper's mama worked there and it was a laundromat slash video so we had tanning beds in the back we live in a time because you had to have tanning beds we live in a time now where like every single show that most every single show that we consume
Starting point is 00:19:49 We're so used to like, they put all 10 episodes out at the same fucking time, and that's how you do it. And that's great. And like, obviously that's awesome. You're like, yeah, I don't have to wait anymore. But it's made me to like, now I have, there's a couple shows that like, Ratchedest Jimstones, for instance. That's a week-to-week show. And some people are like, oh, you know, I like to bank them so I can. And I'm like, yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:20:08 But I do like, I love the fact that there's still some shows that's like appointment television. And going even further back to that, I fucking, and of course it's never going to happen. because it doesn't make sense financially, but, like, God damn it, I wish that, like, how VINLs made it come back, there was just one movie store that people could, like, kids could experience, like,
Starting point is 00:20:30 hey, we're going to watch a movie, but we have to go to a place, and we have to pick it out. What about wrestling VHS? Oh, that was the shit. And they'd get new ones in? Oh, my God. You're fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:40 the covers of them, motherfuckers. So, great. So, we had all the WrestleMania's and stuff. They were super popular, and I'll tell you what else was super popular, even back then was the original UFC's, which was back, the UFC VHS,
Starting point is 00:20:55 which was back when, dude, pre-Frank mirror. It was back when, like, all I remember is tough man. The early, now we had,
Starting point is 00:21:01 we had like from UFC one on. Yeah. And in the early UFCs, they had no, they had no weight classes or nothing like that. Butterbane shit. They had like hoist Gracie going up
Starting point is 00:21:13 against a sumo wrestler. Right. 200 pounds heavier than him. And I didn't watch none of them or anything, but I'm saying like those were hugely, those in the wrestling VHSs were some of our most popular shit. But so what I was going to say is my dad, you were talking about going through and looking at box art
Starting point is 00:21:30 and trying to pick something because yeah, back then people didn't have the internet. You weren't looking at fucking trailers and stuff. And people would come in that asked for recommendations. You had to go into a trailer. Yeah, they had to walk into a literal trailer. And they'd come in and ask her for recommendations. And my dad being the way he was would like recommend the new David Lynch. shit the new david lynch joint or whatever they were like you had me at lynch in salai yeah right
Starting point is 00:21:53 exactly exactly exactly in salina tennessee and then people would come back in with it the next day being like terry i don't know what the hell that's about you ain't got something or somebody whoops somebody's ass got damn fucking i ain't trying to watch that's weird shit one person's life though yeah probably he probably got some of them and also we of course we of course had we of course had the room in the back i wasn't allowed to go in Yeah, that's a titty room. Porno room. Yeah. Every trailer's got that.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Pornow room in the back. You got to, yeah, that was also very popular. How did you run in tannibeds and not blow out the sockets on a trailer from the 60s? I don't know, man. We had it, we had it, it was pretty sweet. How you cooked me? We also, we had a video game section, so I had my, you got to use a frime. My poor trash ass had like every video game that existed because I could just take it from the store and play it at the house and bring it back or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:47 but yeah, you know, things used to hit. And then one day. And one day, God damn Bill Clinton, let me tell you. Signed a deal with Mexico and there you go. It just makes me feel so much worse for you. Whole goddamn family fell apart. When you think about you and how much your life didn't hit, which I do often. But it's like, you know, when someone's born blind, you're like, well, hell, you know, they never saw nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:12 But like you used to hit. I talk all the time about growing up like poor white trash. having nothing which is true but up that was like from when i was 10 years old on because up until when i up zero to 10 those years my dad had crowder's video my maternal grandmother had cats cafe a diner on the town square my openly gay uncle had a deli on the town square and like six inches in the new day that's right yeah new day deli and like all that shit was hitting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And then the factory closed down. No, let's fucking, let's say what it is. It's the goddamn Clinton. Yeah. The factory closed down and all that shit went out of business and it all went to shit. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:00 But my first 10 years was like pretty sweet. This quaint little southern town. Everybody was doing great. All these small business owners and shit. And then it just went to shit. Well, let's get into that right after this. Okay, so do you remember, though, like, so like, obviously we know that.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I have a question when we circle back. Go ahead. The times when it hit and the times when it didn't hit, do you have, can you fill me in on, like, what the temperature of the town was in the middle time when it was like just starting to not hit and like everybody was kind of like buckling, you know what I mean? I think back to when you were nine, Trey. I think I told this story on the podcast somewhat recently, maybe, but yeah, I do. I have a very vivid memory.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I remember my grandpa because he owned a car lot, and the car lot always hit, too. And I remember him coming into my dad's video store and just, like, slamming something down. Your dad's dad's dad? My dad's dad's a father-son moment. They had always, they were lifelong Democrats who were still Democrats. And my, and my grandpa came in and slammed something down and said, I'll never vote for another Democrat as long as I live. and it was because of NAFTA and Clinton and all that shit
Starting point is 00:25:19 because he knew that his business was going fucking down and that was in the between times the news came and interviewed him and he was on the news talking about how much that didn't hit. I'd love to find that video, dude. And I can still, I remember one line from it.
Starting point is 00:25:36 He was standing there and just looking around and he goes, he was like, the bigger ticket items are, they're just not selling. And it's like, crystallized in my brain, seeing my grandpa on the news talking about how much things don't hit, you know, and everything just started fucking closing down. And I mean, yeah, dude, I mean, I remember, I mean, I remember all of that. You can, I don't, you can't go through that.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I don't think, and not, I mean, I remember vividly. It was fucking, it was rough. But it's only in hindsight, do you realize that it was like, yeah, I didn't know what, but it was actually, it's an actual party shift and shit like that. Yeah, no, I didn't, I didn't know none of that. That I know of, there's been like four big, like, huge party shifts, like, where Democrats and Republicans, like, flipped completely. And it's like, you know, everybody's like, oh, yeah, like, the Republicans now love to claim Lincoln. And it's like, do get the fuck out of here with that shit. Yeah, see, what I'm saying is my family up until that point, they had, they went through the Southern strategy and all that shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And they, like, I would say they evolved with the party. Right. And then there was the separate one in the 90s. And then that happened. Yeah, which is completely different. What's wild is even though it ruined my dad's business and everything, he just hated George Bush so much. Like my dad, my dad didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:26:55 He stayed a Democrat until the day he died. But my grandpa, though, was like, fuck the Democrats. Well, there's a lot of people that put, I'm done with this shit. There's a lot of people that put morals ahead of financial gain. Right. And like, I don't completely fault. someone who goes through all that bullshit and then goes, it was these people that did this
Starting point is 00:27:16 to me, so therefore fuck them. But then when you go and you look and you go, and this party also still kind of likes the clan, maybe you go ah, fuck, maybe it's a little bit more nuanced or whatever. A lot of people gave up, dude. A lot of people did just quit voting. Well, that's the thing too. It's what a lot of people don't realize is a lot of people
Starting point is 00:27:31 in the 90s, and I remember this shit would go, I don't fucking like any of them. That's how all the slime was. They were like, I don't like any of them. Like, fuck them all. When I was a kid. thing was saying that he was an outsider. Right, but he's running a Republican. When I was a kid, it was like, in most of Solano, people were apolitical.
Starting point is 00:27:48 It was like, fuck them, they're all full of shit, you know. And it makes sense that they were because of all that shit. Like, why wouldn't you be? But my family wasn't really, I remember my dad having me, well, he didn't have, I called, I called into Nickelodeon because Nickelodeon had a kid's election. Yeah, I remember that shit. the 90, I guess it was the 96 election. Yeah, it was Clinton, it was Clinton a, a, uh, uh, a doll.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And I remember my, I remember my dad telling me to vote for Bill Clinton or whatever. So I like called in to the Nickelodeon kids election, which Bill Clinton won, by the way. But I remember my dad, I remember my dad telling me like, no, we're Bill Clinton people, boy. Imagine fucking Bob Dole winning Nickelodeon. That'd been insane. But yeah, no, like, that's the thing that people don't really, like, we, we, I try to beat it into people all the time. I'm like, oh, like, back in my day, in our day, it was like, you did, you legitimately, for the most part, didn't know how people voted, but that was mainly because they didn't give a shit. It's not that they were actually being secretive.
Starting point is 00:28:51 It's that they were just like, yeah, well, you know what? The Republicans do this, and the Democrats fuck this on this. I fucking don't like any of them. Hell, maybe Ross Perrault's got an idea, you know? I don't fucking know. And then all of a sudden it turned to what it is now. but I just remember as a kid, like, it was not, like Amber is,
Starting point is 00:29:10 my wife is a second grade teacher. And she comes to me and tells me all this fucking wild shit that her kids are saying about build the wall and blah, blah, blah. And you can't even imagine that. No, no, me neither. And like, I'm like, and I'm,
Starting point is 00:29:24 I'm seriously trying. I go, okay, Corey, really try to put yourself there and really try to not do the whole, like, back in my day it wasn't like this, and really try to remember. And I do remember, and I go, it wasn't fucking like that at all. I remember when Clinton and Dole were going, and I had no fucking idea what my parents thought.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I was watching Saturday Night Live at that point with my dad. You know, we loved, and I remember them joking about Bob Doe, Bob Dole, Bob Dole. Yeah, with his arm and shit. Like, I remember all that, but like,
Starting point is 00:29:53 but that's it. That was my, that's my only recollection of it. Yeah, for sure. People, like kids didn't have political stances. No, because their parents didn't give a shit. Exactly. Yeah, like at all.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Like, no, our parents didn't give a fuck. And then, like, maybe when Clinton, you know, went through the whole, like, Lewinsky scandal, the only reason that that even remotely became a thing is because it became a church thing. That's the only fucking reason is because the Southern Baptist Convention took this big moral stance on the whole thing. It was like, oh, he's getting his dick sucked by a lady. Like, we can't have a man in office doing this. And, like, as we all know, like, the Franklin Grams and the Billy's and all them motherfuckers were like, yeah, we're GOP now. then it became a thing but before that it wasn't anything so on that note watching american crime story impeachment
Starting point is 00:30:42 yeah it was great i love it was great the casting and that was unreal but like but that whole series has always been phenomenal watching that sort of because i grew up through all that and i remember it all but like it kind of reminded and i'm not i'm not defending bill clinton in general right now but i'm saying that whole thing it's kind of wild how much of a fucking thing it was partisan witch hunt that clearly
Starting point is 00:31:12 right especially when you look at the same bullshit going on. You look at Trump with the grabbing pussies and all that shit and how it was just fine but like the fucking... He got like Trump got impeached but it wasn't for that. But like I'm saying it's so clearly now
Starting point is 00:31:25 looking back on it just them finding whatever they could find to fucking come after him for or whatever, but it kind of worked in the moment. I mean, you know, like, obviously, he got to stay. They couldn't get the Watergate shit to stick or whatever, or the Whitewater. Whitewater. They couldn't get the Whitewater shit to stick.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And so it was like, well, but it was. So let's just find something else. But it was only be. And then they found something else and just rolled with it. But if it wasn't for the Southern Baptist Convention and the Franklin Grams and shit, basically doing a behind doors deal of like, we are going to support the GOP and this is going to be our political party. That would have never fucking happened in my opinion. Because it was the first fucking time that it became
Starting point is 00:32:08 a moral clause shit that they could actually stick something to. So they were like, we can actually do this. We can actually look at him and go, this is a fucking, we're impeaching him on moral stands and we can get the fucking Christians to look at this and go, this is a guy who
Starting point is 00:32:24 is stepping out on his wife and we can get, like that's really all it was. We're like, dude fucking, like I mean, well, I mean, like John F. Kennedy, everybody know he fucked Marilyn Monroe. They knew that shit. Like, no, that used to matter.
Starting point is 00:32:38 It was just like, yeah, the president fucked around. As long as he's not like... And if you watch that, if you watch that show, and I know it's a show, but Monica Lewinsky was an executive producer on that show. Right. That makes me feel like... It's cool.
Starting point is 00:32:49 That makes me feel like she at least signed off on the representation of the story. It made her look like... And so I'm saying, you watch that and like, she was obsessed. like she you know what I mean like it what I don't know it just I'm not saying that the president should have got his dick sucked by a person that wasn't his wife all I'm saying is huh I'm just saying that that's not the biggest crime against humanity just looking at it in the context of 2022 it's I think it's wild that that was like that big of a deal such a fucking scandal at the time I agree but you agree that it's wild. Oh yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Again, I'm not saying you should have fucking done it. Yeah, I'm not taking a pro Bill Clinton's stance here. Fuck Bill Clinton. Fuck the Clintons at large. I don't give a shit. I'm just saying like... I mean, I'm with you there,
Starting point is 00:33:43 but it doesn't bother me that he goes. Right, it wasn't really that big of a fucking deal. And also, like, they have proven time and again since then that they don't care either. About that at all. Every goddamn Republican senator since then
Starting point is 00:33:55 has been called a back alley abortion fucking scandal. And they're just like, hey, what about this is the private? private life and blah, blah, blah. I thought you meant the Clintons. I was like, yeah, dude, he didn't break any actual vows. Can we talk about something else?
Starting point is 00:34:09 Hang on, before we do, because I said earlier I was going to bring a thing up, and then I never did. We were talking about people moving up north for shit. Oh, no, this is, okay. So, related to that, a whole lot of people from Appalachia moved to Chicago. Yeah. And then in the, like, 60s and 70s, they were up there, and they were all these displaced hillbillies in Chicago
Starting point is 00:34:33 who started getting fucked over real bad by landlords and fucking just the boss man and stuff and they organized and they were called the young patriots and the young patriots who were all these displaced hillbillies and they had the Confederate flag on their fucking that was like their logo or whatever which I'm not saying that hits but I am saying they with the Confederate flag
Starting point is 00:35:01 and their whole deal were aligned with the Black Panthers in Chicago and they tried collectively to fight back and it failed and I just think that like that's one of the historical examples
Starting point is 00:35:17 of like nuance in this country that gets totally missed or looked over it but it was I will say the Black Panthers were with some Confederate motherfuckers on this year at Colvin. In Chicago talking about how much because it was black and white people were fucking like it's the rich people fucking which is like that's what needs to happen right of course and like that so very nearly did happen in Chicago in that time and then the rich people were like we can't but then it but then it didn't and it was the FBI and it was the FBI it was a Jesse Plumman's movie no yeah what was up
Starting point is 00:35:46 Fred Hampton was the guy no yeah but what's the Judas and the Black Messiah so in Judas and the Black Messiah they touch on it a little bit they do in because I was watching that movie hoping the young patriots would show up and they and they did They're included in it, but yeah, it was a whole thing, and it's just like... It was called the Rainbow Coalition. The Rainbow Coalition. The leader of the Young Patriots was William Preacherman Fesperman, who I think was born in Kentucky. And then the young lords were also involved, which was the Hispanic, Latino faction of Chicago. And it was a black-led organization that was anti-racist and anti-classes. And what they were doing was feeding them.
Starting point is 00:36:27 the communities, feeding kids, organizing, organizing against the police, and they were starting to organize against capitalism. And guess what happened. The fucking FBI decided they were evil. We need to make this racist. Which is why, like,
Starting point is 00:36:44 now they act, the right acts like the FBI is like liberal now. Right. I mean, like ever since fucking Mueller. Well, it's been shifts like that. Ever since Mueller, they try to act like the deep state is, liberal or some shit when it's like when
Starting point is 00:36:59 fuck did that happen? Yeah, wait, yeah. How about go back to the FBI and Martin Luther King and all that bullshit that was happening? Literally tried to convince this motherfucker to commit suicide so that you didn't take out his whole goddamn family but yeah, no, they're super fucking liberal as shit.
Starting point is 00:37:15 But yeah, no, the... One of the reasons that the Black Lives Matter movement has has generally, there's been some counter examples but they're often shouted down, been kind of leaderless and doesn't follow a pyramid or hierarchical structure is that if you do that and your leader gets murdered
Starting point is 00:37:33 it ends the movement. Right, yeah. But we like the idea that all the different types of poor people if they actually banded together and said, hey, rich people don't hit, then shit could change, but they've been turned against each other or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:50 That like, that almost actually happens. So back in a, but the powers that be, but the powers that be, fucking shut it down. And now here we are. Back in the Roman times, Caesar and all them motherfuckers, they had this idea
Starting point is 00:38:08 that they were going to make all the slaves wear a certain sash so that they could identify the slaves. It was going to be like this gold sash or something that they were going to make all the slaves wear. And they brought this up in Congress or whatever
Starting point is 00:38:25 the Senate was and they all thought it was a great idea. And they were like, yeah, we'll make them all the way that way we can identify them. And they ultimately ended up not doing that. And do you know why? They didn't do that because somebody brought to their attention, they go, if we do that, they'll see how many of them there are. And they will fucking kill us all. Yeah, right. And so there's, that's, that's exactly how that shit plays out.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Right. They have to separate all the fucking things. they have to go, oh, you all have this common fucking interest. Let us fucking divide you because you cannot possibly see that you have the same fucking goal. Otherwise, we're fucked. And that shit's been happening since the ancient Roman times. I have been reading. Yeah, there's, uh, I think it's, there's an LBJ quote, which I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:39:20 So I'm not even going to butcher it, but it's, well, I am going to butcher it. It's something about like how, if the lowest white man, believes he is above any black man, then he won't notice the hand in his pocket. Yeah. Taking his shit away. Yeah, which was in the
Starting point is 00:39:40 in the middle of LBJ losing the Democrats to the South for two generations, which is another one of those fucking shifts. Grant, it happened to Grant, like right after Lincoln with a bunch of shit. Like, the party's gone through all these insane shifts. It's the most important.
Starting point is 00:39:57 thing politically that's ever happened in this country, I think, is the rich people pulling that off. Of course, man. And turning all the different types of poor people against each other the way they did. If that never happened, be a completely different country. Yeah, and I mean, that's why I'm not, I fucking hate Democrats too. Like, I'm probably going to get some shit for that. But, like, I don't know, I look at, like, a lot of... I do. Most liberals hate the fucking Democrats, I mean, I'm just saying, like, well, liberal, I fucking hate liberals, too. Like, all up, like, everybody at the top does that shit. Like, everybody at the top is just, like, like, like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Like, they just, they don't give a fuck. They're just, like, they're wanting their little fucking, like, CPAC money and shit like that. What's that catch-22 of, like, the people that are drawn to that type of position in the first place are the exact opposite of the people we need to have in there. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:43 that's why John Stewart never ran. To begin with, right. Yeah, like the people that should be in there. John Stewart is actually actually getting firefighters their rights back from 9-11, but not from a political office, just from a fucking private citizen that with some money. Yeah, but the thing about that is, like, I don't know what you do about that.
Starting point is 00:41:00 You don't. It's just, it's just like, it's just like, it's like cops being assholes, most of them. Do you know what I mean? It's like, it attracts a certain type of person. The position does. Not only does it attract a certain type of person. You can't really change that. I've always, I've said before that I've got buddies.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I know fucking, you know, ACAB, I understand that, and I agree with it to the most part. I do have buddies who are cops who I genuinely believe. leave, have their hearts in the right place. But then I will talk to, like, they'll be talking to me, and I'm not going to say their name, so I'm not a fucking asshole. But like, they'll be talking to me about these things, and I'm like, yeah, but you understand that like
Starting point is 00:41:38 there's these motherfuckers that like, they're shooting unarmed bike people, and they're like, yes, man, it's a fucking problem. There's some bad apples. I'm like, we'll fucking say something. They're like, it's a little bit more complicated than that, because if you do, then blah, and I'm like, well, there you fucking go. It's like a fucking mob. You know what I mean? They're like, we can't
Starting point is 00:41:54 because then we don't have our job. I'm like, oh, man, You can't go make $35,000 a year somewhere fucking else. Yeah, it's the same thing as getting big money out of politics. Like, that's never going to happen because the people that are in politics are profiting from that exact thing on both sides. So they're like, well, we can't, you know, we can't. The second you step in, you're fucking in and that's it, man. Yeah. Like, I mean, you know, it's.
Starting point is 00:42:27 That's just the game. It is. Everybody thinks, like, I'm going to get in there. I'm going to shake shit up. And everybody's so goddamn old, too. That's how they, like, I already pissed people off on my Patreon this week. I don't give a fuck about that old shit. But, like, I got, the median age in this country is 38 years old and it's bullshit that were led by a 78-old.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Right, that's what I'm saying. So, like, you got Nancy Pelosi just announced she's going to run for office again. She's 82 years old. Get them to fuck out. Like, why do we have so many people in their fucking 80? Dude, yeah, right. It's not an ageist thing. You don't represent me.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Right. Because, again, the median age in this country is 38 years old. And if you're fucking 78 years old, you do not have the same goddamn interest as the modern fucking average goddamn American. It's also just that you are making decisions that impact the future when, biologically speaking, you don't have much of a future. Well, it's what everybody says.
Starting point is 00:43:22 You don't get to pick the, you don't get to pick the, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the menu if you ain't going to be at the dinner. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, that's the cliche, but it's fucking true. There ain't no fucking meal, though. That's the game.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Like, it doesn't matter how old she is. We're getting pretty rogan on this podcast. She's super, fuck that. She's super fucking rich. Her husband's super rich. She's probably been insider trading for years. They all, for the most part, have been. So, you know, I agree with you about the age thing,
Starting point is 00:43:55 but that's not what it is. Capitalism's... I'm not saying it's the whole of it. Capitalism's prime feature for people like that is how unbelievably adaptable it's been, even compared to things that had lasted
Starting point is 00:44:11 longer like feudalism as an example, because you're able to sell the dream to people that you can and will escape it. Also, when we, America, was born we have this history, the American myth,
Starting point is 00:44:27 some of which is true where we have an entire country full of resources and we eradicated the people who lived here before so there was a fuck ton of stuff to go around. People could elevate themselves
Starting point is 00:44:40 and be mobile across for a few years from like 1950 to about 1988, upward mobility socially was totally possible in this country. Yeah, because you could work at a factory and have a three-car garage or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:54 That was it, but that was all the... But related to that is we had these resources and that we had just taken, still a young country, and we were just starting to inter-global markets, but we hadn't become full-on globalists yet. And on top of all that, we were at that time just getting our imperialism on. So somebody was still already at the bottom of that. It just wasn't our lower class. And so a middle class was bustling.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That's gone. It's fucked. Totally gone. And the reason it's gone and fucked is because, in my opinion, is because there was no way for the rich to continue to get richer because of the way globalism was working
Starting point is 00:45:30 without eradicating the middle class. They've done it. They continue to do it. We're fucked. Boys. What I will say, though, related to what you were talking about
Starting point is 00:45:39 about changing it, yeah, there's a way to change it. Hang bankers off of the millions. I was about the boys, buy their fucking guts. Let's say some means of production.
Starting point is 00:45:49 God damn. Let's do it. But you know what? Those same fucking people really gotten radicalized while I was. stop paying attention. They used people like Trey.
Starting point is 00:45:59 No, hear me out. They used people like Trey who we talked about at the beginning of this podcast came from a shit situation and poverty, and then you've made something of yourself. They look at you and go,
Starting point is 00:46:13 see, it can be done. All you got to do is lift yourself up by your bootstraps. Trey's literally one of the smartest motherfuckers I've ever met, and it's a goddamn miracle that you can't. came out of your situation and have made anything other than someone just stinky in a corner.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Made anything other than meth in a trailer that exploded and I died. And so my point is they look at you and they go, they go, see, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, see what? See that people should have to literally be Matt Damon from fucking Goodwill hunting in order to get a shot in this fucking life. that's bullshit like that's a thing oh no you just got to you just got to bust your goddamn ass
Starting point is 00:46:59 your whole fucking life and then you can have something no see but I so I uh you're 100% right that is how people act but I tell you how they respond
Starting point is 00:47:08 to any kind of dissension in that direction right after this okay so uh I did this thing where I was with all these like conservatives
Starting point is 00:47:24 and it was like a debate type thing but it was when when this happened when the cameras weren't rolling nobody was recording this we were just talking and it was talking about like poor people and wanting handouts and all that shit and I told them I was like I was like look man I grew up poor with fucking nothing I've been completely
Starting point is 00:47:46 financially independence I was 18 years old I put myself through college based on the grades that I made when I was in college I worked 30 hours a week and had extracurriculars and I was fucking paying all my own bills with no support, working full time making straight A's in college. And I was fucking broke. Like I had nothing at that time.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And I was like, what was I supposed to do any different than what I, like, what do you want me to do other than what I was already doing to be like a good American? And they were just like, well, what were you spending your money on? Right. You know, they were like, why were you having a good time? Yeah, they were like,
Starting point is 00:48:30 were you buying beer and stuff? Were you buying stuff you didn't need? You know, and stuff like that. And I was like, so I don't, I can't have, because of all that, I'm not allowed to enjoy myself at all. Also, not to mention, the citizens of the world to be.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Also, not. People not having a good time at all. Yes, that's what they want. First of all, even if you had spent, say, $1,000 a year on beer. you're in college it was a different time I'm being a consumer right put money into the beer economy
Starting point is 00:48:59 well not only that what were you supposed to do without a thousand dollars what was that going to change yeah right no I know but that's what that's my point is they just they moved the goal post you know what I mean it's always like if you try to if you tell them it's like
Starting point is 00:49:14 poor people are not poor people spend their money on shit that boosts the economy because they have no other choice they got they need new tires or whatever so they buy new tires and they're just like, well, but they're okay, but they're also spending it on drugs and booze and stuff like that. But you're addressing this logically.
Starting point is 00:49:34 There's only two types of people like that, in my opinion, fucking pure evil ones, and then the people they sell the lie to who are so fucking insecure that the only way they can measure themselves against the world and have any worth is if it's by making profit in this world. Those are the only two types of people who actually have that belief. and both of them are cynical bastards and frankly I'm done debating them
Starting point is 00:49:58 kill the ones at the top because the ones at the bottom are so fucking insecure anyway you'd be like yeah you respect that you don't have any fucking empathy do you understand that if you don't stop we will cut your guts at well and unfortunately the rich kids they're totally fine with it's ridiculous
Starting point is 00:50:14 like the idea that the rich kids that they're totally fine with that they spend all of their time just on working and being studious and whatever you know what I mean like they fucking they bore they blow more money than anybody on fucking drugs well they rate girls and all that shit right yeah right it's like it's like that's fine because they're not poor well you're supposed to do nothing else ever all right
Starting point is 00:50:41 other than work and school and that's it all right let's talk about hollywood though because there is a caveat to that there's a lot of people in hollywood caveat always makes me think of caviar and i get hungry. That's fine. There's a lot of people who do well, who are rich kids. It does. It does. It does hit. And they worked hard, and they did have good ideas. But that discounts
Starting point is 00:51:04 all of the legs up that they had. And Hollywood is a perfect example. You cannot continue to make it in Hollywood just because you're rich. But the idea that, for example, a Sean Penn didn't, like, have a leg up, or that didn't, like, it's
Starting point is 00:51:21 horse shit. That that's not true. But people will make the argument back at you. Well, yeah, but Sean Penn is great. Well, yeah, he is fucking great. You can't. Julie Louis Dreyfuss is fucking incredible. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:32 But you can't tell me there weren't people as talented as her who never ever got the opportunity. It's not factually. And I think that people hit you with that too in the business world. Well, like, yeah, Elon Musk inherited a diamond mine. But like, you know. But look what he did with it. Look what he did with it. And it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Okay. But like, Hollywood's a hundred examples of people who inherited. Who could have been Elon Musk who did not inherit a diamond man? What would they have done? What would they have done with it? No fucking good ideas. He bought the car. Every idea after that has been ridiculously stupid.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Right. In Hollywood, I mean, like, that example is great and it's true and it's not a meritocracy and yada, yada, yada, yada. But we always look at that in the terms of like, oh, these people weren't allowed to be Julie Lydrappis and yada, yada, yada. But it's like the thing is that they should just have been allowed to have a regular life regardless. They shouldn't have to be Julia Louis Dreyfus in order to be something. Like, Hollywood, like, no one's entitled to be fucking an Oscar winner motherfucker, you know? Yeah, but that's not, we were talking about, like, the business thing with the rich kids. And it's like, they always use the example of someone who was rich and then did something incredible with it.
Starting point is 00:52:41 And I'm like... No, I agree. No, I... Yeah, like, if you have all those resources, you know, because there's, there's like a lot of rich people. So the fact that five of them end up doing something with that proof of it. No, I agree for nothing. I agree with you. I'm just saying, like, we shouldn't even be having the goddamn conversation
Starting point is 00:52:55 because there should be a fucking middle class, and this wouldn't even be a fucking issue. You know what I'm saying? Like, no one should be having to go, like, oh, why couldn't I be fucking Julie Dreyfuss? Why couldn't you just have gone to college and not be in fucking debt and just being accountant? Like, you can't even do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:11 That's not even the dream anymore. The dream of the 80s isn't even a thing anymore. Like, being Julia Louis Dreyfus is a great dream, but, like, there used to be a thing where you literally could just go to college for $200 a semester. You could fucking mow lawns all summer and pay for your college and then just have a job. That's not even a thing anymore. So, like, we don't even have to look at the fucking, like, ultimate bullshit.
Starting point is 00:53:34 The fucking middle of the road dreams don't even exist anymore. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the whole country's gone to hell. Like, the dream, like, do what? Yeah, the whole country's gone to hell. That's what I'm saying, like, the dream that is my father, who is a guy that has a, his own marketing, firm. I dare a motherfucker to do that nowadays.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Like what my dad did in the 80s. Like now you do it's called a startup and like maybe you get some dude that has like Bitcoin that like wants to invest in you but like dude the fucking like the things that in the 70s. Only if you went to fucking Stanford. The thing but it's just the things in the 70s and 80s that you
Starting point is 00:54:09 could do that now seem like menial dreams are so fucking dead like fuck being an EGOT winner. Like you can't even just be a fucking person that makes $50,000 a year and just has a house and doesn't have to have your kid be the best fucking tennis player on earth for them to go to college. Your ass better be bartending or something.
Starting point is 00:54:34 That's what I'm saying. Like, fuck all that shit. You can't have a house almost anywhere on 50 grand a year in this country. Dude, places you can, there ain't no jobs paying 50 grand a year. Dude, like, I'm saying, like, I'm one of the luckiest motherfuckers on. on earth. Like I have a great house where there's low property value doing the thing that I love
Starting point is 00:54:56 and I make good money at it and I bust my ass to fucking do it but I'm still fucking I'm so lucky and it's just so crazy to me like I look around and like all my friends who like went to college did the right thing, did everything right
Starting point is 00:55:11 and they're fucked now they're fucked and I'm the one that they're like god damn I wish I'd just not went to college like you did and I'm like first off it wasn't like a plan you know what I mean like I didn't just like set out to do this but like it's not even like you it's not the American dream is not being Meryl Streep the American dream used to just be Mr. Joe everybody who worked at the bank you work hard and you work hard and you can lift yourself up by your bootstraps and you can have a good life if you just work hard and that's not even American dream used to be or well that's what the American dream is but it's just that's not feasible and it's not a real real thing. It's not fucking true. All the people that work the hardest don't have shit, man. It was also never true.
Starting point is 00:55:55 No, at all. Because when there was the possibility of upward mobility, it wasn't just your bootstraps. It was the fact that social programs had been in place. It was the fact that post-war, we had a very, very, I always forget the economic word, but we were investing a lot. The government was putting money back into the country. So, like, you know, the bootstraps thing has always been a myth,
Starting point is 00:56:19 Because even when it appeared to have been working, what was actually going on is that the government, Keynesian economics, was practicing Keynesian economics, where you put money back into the fucking economy. Now, we have been shitting on capitalism for a while, and I'm super for it.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Far be it for me to stop it. But I have been wanting to get back to something, and I have to admit, it's sort of the counter example of one time capitalism got it right, and I want to talk about how and why. Is that okay with y'all? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:46 For sure. And before you go on that, I would like to sit, here before seaman, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:52 uh, uh, uh, uh, I, I benefit so much for, from capitalism and I, I just want to like,
Starting point is 00:56:59 say that, like to all my fucking friends out there who do bust their ass all the time and don't make shit. I will, dude, I'll just fart out money sometimes. Yeah, subscribe to the substack.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Please do. What is it? And by the, it's, uh, Corey rights for you. But by the way, if you can't afford it, you can email me at buttercreamcori.
Starting point is 00:57:17 com and I will, uh, will, uh, comp you a subscription. I'm just saying, like, I feel bad being some, like, it's, it's so, like, I rail against capitalism too, but clearly benefit from it, which is like, obviously fine, like, this is the system that we live in.
Starting point is 00:57:32 You know what I'm saying? But it's just like, I'm not going to sit here and act like I don't bust my ass. I fucking do, but I'm not in a goddamn coal mine. You know what I'm saying? Yet I'm making so much more than those motherfuckers. So, like, the whole idea of, like, if you just work hard, you'll be, No, that's not true. I also have talent and also jumped into a field at the right fucking time.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Like, the whole working hard shit is just bullshit. My fucking brother-in-law works his goddamn ass to the bone every fucking day. And they still struggle to pay their fucking mortgage. So that ain't it. So many people in our game, too, in the show business industry, really push that working hard thing. And it kind of pisses me up and don't have for me. Right. I know that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It's only, well, it's only the ones that make it that you hear from. We love what we do. And they talk, but they talk hard at it. But they all just pair it the same thing about like, yeah, you just got to work, you work hard at it all the time. It's like that, that ain't that. No, you've got to be lucky.
Starting point is 00:58:34 That's not true, man. He said it the way that I think it should be said to me. He said to me, Morgan, he was fucked up. He wanted to know the secret of making it in this business. Just don't quit. and then he touched someone you're telling me he goes people say oh you got to work hard
Starting point is 00:58:51 you got to do this he goes you got to work but that ain't going just don't ever go away yeah eventually somebody would be like ah fuck it get this guy Janet Williams said the same shit to me where when I was first starting out and opening up for her she goes
Starting point is 00:59:03 Corey it's not the funniest that makes it it's the people who put up with all this bullshit and then at the end are still standing there going how about me I'm sorry I don't I don't believe that either I'm not there's a little bit of that There are plenty of people.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Because I've also always heard the It's a War of Attrition thing. And I know that's true. But, bro, you still got to be really talented. We know, we know people who have done that. And it doesn't matter. There's still luck. Dude, they're still fucking.
Starting point is 00:59:36 That's what I'm saying. Like, you can do that too. That's the whole point of everything I'm saying. You can work hard and you can stick around. And it may not matter. Now, you have to do, now, you do still have to. do all those things. But at the end,
Starting point is 00:59:49 it's still, like, dude, there's so many people that we know that are so much funnier, so much more talented than us, and we're doing better than them.
Starting point is 00:59:57 And all it is is that, do what? There's like five. Okay, but like it's... They're all black or gay. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Well, there you fucking go. Listen, I want to do this. Drew, do your thing, yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 01:00:08 yeah, my bad, what was, how did the phenomenon come about? And I'm genuinely curious, because it is every,
Starting point is 01:00:19 wear was of the tan and bed video store. Well, yeah, no, I've actually, I've got to get tan. Okay. Now, why is there a video store always attached to it in every small town? It's a stop shop. It's not like it was a trend on the internet.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Can I answer for my specific town? Well, sure. It was a front for drugs. That's not what we did. That's not what we did. Okay. But the only thing. If there was a front for drugs, I would hit harder today.
Starting point is 01:00:52 That makes sense because you can do fake appointments and say you got cash money. I think it's a pre-internet meme thing. So it became a thing. How did it become a thing? Nowadays. People just went to other towns. They saw that it happened. Corey, hold on.
Starting point is 01:01:04 My family had one of these. Okay. I just think that like. Corey read about 1865 this week. He was about to bring Lincoln in. No, it's a different thing. I think it has to be one of those things where like you see in the next town over that that happens and so you do it here or whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And that's what like... Yeah, I mean, I think so. Because again, we had a tanning bed. How much did they cost? A tanabed. Oh, me, fuck, I don't know. I could ask me, ma'am. So like, and like,
Starting point is 01:01:33 it wouldn't blow my mind if it was like tanenbed spread across America. Sometimes they were in flower shops and sometimes they were in video stores and sometimes they were down at the drug store. But it was always video stores of town. They were always in a fucking video. And I'm saying, I don't, I don't.
Starting point is 01:01:49 don't know how it started, but I'm saying it clearly became a thing that it's like you rent videos, you also should put up a tanning bed. And did they have a poker, they have a poker thing in there too? I mean, no, that was very illegal. Like nowadays, it's not tanning in video stores. What it is, is if you ever, this is a... The dilapidation of America? No, but you'll know that this is true.
Starting point is 01:02:14 What you see now, the double up nowadays is not video store tanning bed. Taco Bell Cases. No, but that's a good one. It is storage space ice machine. All right? Yeah. Storage space ice machine. It's just people who have this space and they're like,
Starting point is 01:02:32 we can also fit this shit in here, and like the same people are going to want to tan, and while they're tanning, they can get a fucking video, and while they're getting a video, they're like I'd like to get tanned. Huge difference there, in my opinion, and it's related to space. That also happens with car washes.
Starting point is 01:02:47 A lot of times there's a car wash ice machine Or a car wash storage place Ice machine's the move we need to get some But we live in the day and age now Where because of the internet People will go on and research things like What's the most profitable if I have a lot of space? Right
Starting point is 01:03:04 And you can find out I mean like apparently car washers It placed in the right place If put in the right place Are very profitable They're insanely profitable Because they have low overhead So like the same thing
Starting point is 01:03:13 It's the overhead thing too Is the overhead thing too is you buy the tannabed It's already there Where did they find that? out at before the fucking internet. Right. It's just trashy people want to get their tanning on. I think,
Starting point is 01:03:25 I go to the door to the tent bed salesman? I'm saying, I feel like hitting up every fucking video. This is maybe overly. Let's do a movie about that guy. This is maybe. Corey's going around selling tandem beds to Tray's daddy and people like him. I think it's over. That'd be a good movie.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It's probably overly simplistic, but I think that like in some small town, somebody just did, it just happened. and they hit real hard and then the next town over there like that hits your hard let's do that and then just gradually the way that memes spread but pre the internet
Starting point is 01:03:59 I'm the next town over and I see that your tannabed is killing it and I own a drug store why don't I put one in the back of my drugstore it's a because it's a perception thing like the drugstore they don't want to be the trashy you get your tannabit's a clientele you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:04:17 the people that are going in there to get their fucking porno movies also want to get their fucking I don't know I can well I kind of feel like people like tacked on a tan and bed business to a lot of things and I really I really only say that because they stand alone now for the record Katie's grandma had a like dress store and with a tanning bed with tanning beds in that makes sense that does make sense and actually you know what I know it's a phenomenon video stores and tanen beds
Starting point is 01:04:47 being aligned. I can think of a poker store gas station. But my my ma ma'am used to have like a clothing store that had a tanem bed
Starting point is 01:04:57 in it. The clothing store turned into the video store and the tanning bed stayed. So I'm saying like Did your dad invent it? I think that,
Starting point is 01:05:06 no, I think that like I think that tannabeds may be worth it. It'd be hilarious if we found out Trey was owed like big tan and bed
Starting point is 01:05:15 money. I think that tan and beds were maybe a thing that it made sense to tack on to something else. Of course it does. Because you could put those things in the bag and make a car. The guy came here to rent Terminator. Why don't you fucking tan? Of course, but I,
Starting point is 01:05:27 like, yes, but I feel like there was an inordinate amount of it being intact on the video. No, I agree with that. You're right. It was definitely like a business model for a long time. I guess it was just that like both of those businesses realized they couldn't stand alone at a certain point.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Now, it could be that. The flower shop didn't need to do. tan in bed. And maybe like this was a time when like on demand video was becoming a thing and like the video business was like by a lot. Yeah, no, you're right. I'm just saying like both of them were like, look,
Starting point is 01:05:55 you can't stand alone, come over here, do this thing. Just like an eye, you can't just put an eye store. You know what it could be too? There was a time when like, so okay, so living in America did not hit prior to the 50s, especially if you weren't white, but even if you were unless you were rich. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Like Sears and Robo. I mean, it. Like in the 20s, it's super hit. But it's like, Sears, yeah, if you want to get drunk, but I'm talking about like your existence. Before the Black Tuesday, like before the crisis shit was fucking hitting. Except that you had to get a job at 11 and you get your fucking hand-mangled in a factory. Oh, yeah, dude, if you were poor, it never hit.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Yeah, you're right. What I'm saying is Sears and Roebuck is like a big sign point in culture and changing things, not just because you could order out of a catalog, but also people had money for the first time to order shit like that. I wonder if very early on videos and getting a tan were put together in people's brains culturally as like, um, I don't know what the right word would be, luxury items.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Like, do you know what I mean? Like, those things go together the same reason they watch. Like, like drug stores had soda fountains always back. Yeah. Why?
Starting point is 01:07:10 Well, because like that was, you get a cold. Well, it's weird because it almost feels, it almost feels like, the video store would have came after, meaning like you come here to get a tanning on your way out,
Starting point is 01:07:21 you rent a barbed wire. You know what I mean? Something like that. Great flick. But I don't know. To get at a video store. Did you ever see it? Yeah, I got it from the same video store
Starting point is 01:07:30 because it had fucking Pamela Anderson. It's the one that I never saw, but I knew the most about it. And me and my brother knew what was about to happen, and it did, and it hit. Does she, like, get naked? Does she hang them out in it? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 See, I didn't know that. I think you might have saw her bush, cuss. she hangs bush in it I'm pretty sure yeah see I need like By the way didn't we talk about this recently
Starting point is 01:07:50 and I When's that coming out by the way The Pam and Tommy So wait Was it here or maybe I opined that Oh She did that movie
Starting point is 01:08:00 Because the sex tape Was already out And somebody proved me wrong It came out before the sex tape Oh really? I don't know if that's true Yeah That's funny because like
Starting point is 01:08:08 When the Pam And Tommy sex tape Came out Everybody was like Can you believe it? And it's like, yeah, kind of. Yeah. I mean, she's kind of been putting them on the glass as a career for a while.
Starting point is 01:08:22 But maybe not, though. Yeah. I don't know. She seemed to be a professional whore. No, I'm telling you, I just had this conversation. I thought it was with y'all. Somebody just tuned me in that that's not what happened. I mean, she was definitely a thing before.
Starting point is 01:08:41 She's not like Kim Kardashian. Yeah, right. The sex tape didn't pop up. She was a thing, but like, the sex tape kind of made her be like, well, I mean, you know, okay. I may as well pull them out. Right. That she wasn't like a sex pot.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I mean, dude. I don't know. That may be true. It's not. But we're saying that she wasn't considered a sex pot on Baywatch. Because, like, Baywatch was like. That's not what I mean, though, but like, she wasn't doing softcore porn until the porn came out. Well, yeah, but did she, wait, she didn't do, like, softcore porn after that, did she?
Starting point is 01:09:12 Like, barbed wire. Barb wires. It was it soft. It's close to softball. She like gets it on in that movie. I don't know. Honestly, I actually never saw it either. We had it. It was very popular. Yeah. I remember the fucking trailer. I remember the fucking poster and shit like that, but I never
Starting point is 01:09:28 saw it because it wasn't allowed at my goddamn house. And so it's one of those that I never went back and watched because like I can see like, you know, if I don't want to see some stuff like I can see some real stuff now. So like why would I go back? Yeah, no. I mean, I'm in the same position as you. Maybe somebody corrected me the other way. Maybe I was
Starting point is 01:09:44 You know what, we should watch that movie. Let's do a well-red watch-along to barbed wire. Yeah. Wouldn't that be something? It would be. Maybe I did it the other way around, though. You need to go downstairs and get this pizza. Well, how about this?
Starting point is 01:09:59 Thank you all for listening to the well-red show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Tell us what you got on your mind, Drew. Well, he does sound guy, don't he? Thank you.

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