wellRED podcast - #268 - A Godless Easter!

Episode Date: April 20, 2022

This week Corey eduactes Trae on what Easter was like for someone in a heavily religous household, and Trae compares that to his godless easters!Come see us in Louisville this weekend! WellREDcomedy.com for tickets!Have you checked out Trae and Corey's new show Puttin On Airs yet? You can find it wherever you get your podcasts, or watch it at WatchPOA.com (Please go out of your way and leave us a 5 star review if you wouldnt mind.. it'll take you 2 seconds but mean alot to us!)

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I'm so sorry. Thank you all for listening to the well-read podcast. We'd like to extend a special thank you to everybody who was at our Portland shows this weekend in Portland, Oregon at the Helium Comedy Club, had a last. We always have a blast. And I am, man, it's, uh, we're recording this on Monday. I'm almost completely out of juice. I'm running on fumes because those shows were just absolutely amazing. We had our buddy Tushar with us. Five flame shows in Portland literally never disappoints. No, it doesn't. Portland's got its own thing going on and fully embraces it and it suits what we do

very well. And we've never had anything less than a fire time in Portland. So, and this weekend was no different. So yeah, thanks to everybody. the Rose City area who came out to helium and saw us. Like you were saying, like, so hit so hard that I'm still like reeling from it. Because that is the thing. It's like sometimes shows hit too hard, place hits too hard, you know, at the age we're getting to now. It's like you got to, you almost got to pay for that for a couple of days afterwards. But it's all right.

It's worth it. Oh, for sure. But yeah, I'm definitely a little like little zapped today. And we were. We were talking at the bar before, I think, maybe the Saturday shows or something. Like, doing we were on, we boozed and had a good time. But we, like, to the extent that we normally, the standard that we've set for ourselves on Well Red, we actually took it pretty easy. And we were sitting there at the bar and you were just like, man, do you still feel like you've kind of went hard every night?

And I'm like, yeah, but what's that all about? And you're like, I just think that the shows were so fire and the meeting greets were so fire and meeting everybody. Like, maybe we're just regular exhausted, like a normal. person would be because it was just that level of great yeah i mean i guess so i don't have a better theory you know it used to be that like uh we was just going so hard acting like we was rock stars you know and uh and we've realized the shows can still hit we can't have a good time either way without doing that but it does still take something out of you but yeah i don't want it sound to anybody like we're uh like complaining about that no no it's so hard it hit it's

So hard. Yeah. That's what we're, how we're currently feeling. So, but on that note, if you're hearing that, you got a little bit of FOMO,

if you're anywhere in the northern Kentucky region, anywhere thereabouts whatsoever, we're going to be in Louisville this weekend. You can go to wellredcom. April 21st through the 23rd. That is correct. Yeah, wellredcom.

Get your tickets. You may notice you're going wellredcom. These are the last well red shows for a while. That is true. For a while, not forever. Everything's fine. The band's not.

breaking up or nothing. Corey wanted some time off. I wanted to try some stuff. So I guess I'll go ahead and announce now. I'm going to officially announce it on social media next week, but I'm going to be doing some solo shows in the coming months, going to Ohio, upstate New York, Virginia, some other places, still adding some dates. So you can go to traycrouter.com, but we're also going to put something on well-readcom that redirects there to avoid any confusion, hopefully. So I'll be out there doing shows and yeah reiterate everything's fine no there's no yoko on a

Beatles situation going on there will be more well read shows in the future we're doing some different stuff temporarily for the nonce so these Louisville shows they are the last well red shows for a while so I mean if you're around there you want to come come come out

but yeah so go see them like I said the band is not breaking up I literally just wanted some time off it's funny because we've had people that have like gone to the website and they saw that because normally our website is chock full of holy god we're going to be here here and there and people are like well what's going on with that and i go i just wanted to take some time off and they were like wait y'all can do that like you you y'all don't normally do that you seem to be going pretty full board and i was like yeah i hear you so i'm taking some time on what's funny is people who have been listening for a while might remember if they haven't forgotten pretty much the only time in the last six years we willingly took any time off we decided to give ourselves like a two to three month break and we planned this over a year in advance we decided we're going to take a two to three

month break at the beginning of 2020 yeah so that was the only time we'd really take a much time off in you know four years at that point and then wouldn't you know it world ends 18 month forest hiatus after that um but yeah so that's the deal yeah that is the deal yeah that is the deal. That's the deal pickle. But yes, they're going to be in Louisville. Those will be our final shows for a while. And I'm super pumped about it. Yeah, me too. So it's Easter Monday. And I don't remember if we've ever talked about it on here or not Easter specifically. Like, you know, the listeners know, I'm Bible dumb. I'm church dumb. The Lord dumb. You and Drew grew up in it heavily. But I'm still from the South. Obviously, went to a bunch of egg hunts and shit. But I guess I'm just curious, like, I don't know,

me through what Easter's like when when the Lord hits for a southern household. Well, for me, it was probably even a little bit more different than everybody else is just because, you know, you hear people talk about like, oh, we were there every time the doors were open. And that was very true because not only were we big churchgoers, but my mama, not only was my mama in the choir, she was also a solo singer. My mom can fucking sing. And so she was a solo singer and she was one that was in like more of a heavy rotation than even anybody else. My mama was also like a pinch singer.

So even if mama had just sang the week before, if somebody like was like they were supposed to sing a solo and they were sick, they'd, you know, they'd come in and get my mom. So she was there practicing all the time. She was also in charge of vacation Bible school. And my dad was in charge of the entertainment for vacation Bible. Bible school. My dad was also in the church band. I said all that to say this. Easter at a church, like we were going, there's also the Easter pageant that you put on, which is a similar, similar, like, so during Christmas, you know, they've got the Christmas contada where they do, um, they, they do do the birth of Jesus in a play. Yeah. They dress up like the wise man and

shit. They did the whole manger thing. Well, at Easter, there's the Easter pageant where they do. the whole crucifixion like they do all that yeah all that and because of that my mom did the music for it and i as a child was always a member of the cast i played um all the kids usually played like the little kids the waving the palms on palm sunday when jesus rides his donkey in which yes we had a real donkey and um and but i got i got graduated to i was i was pontius pilots water boy because my papal, Bobby, played Pontius Pilots. So, like, Easter week for us was practice every day, getting ready for the Easter pageant,

and then all that, and then the service, and then, of course, supper, you know? Right. Yeah. It's, yeah, I was thinking about it because, like, for me, yeah, right, it's wild. Like, I mean, that total, everything you just said completely makes sense, but it's wild because for me, Easter was, like,

a pretty half-ass holidays. Right. there would be things that when I went some egg hunts and shit when I was a kid or like whatever. But that whole full production deal was never part of it. And also I was saying on one of my Patreon videos earlier, like, I've always thought that Easter, of course I'm aware of all the heavy Lord stuff that's going on with Easter. But I've always thought that it's also pretty easy to ignore if you want to because of, of how like goofy and silly.

Yeah, right. And nonsensical, a lot of the traditions are, meaning like, this has been pointed out a million times before by other people, but I'm making a specific point about it because it's like, you know, you're like, what the fuck does a rabbit with,

rabbits don't lay eggs? There's a rabbit with eggs and chocolate and like that's supposed to be something to do with Jesus. What the hell's going on? But like, that hits for me because it's really easy to hide. Christmas and Santa. Right.

It's really easy to hide the Jesus ball. Right. You've got like little kids and you want to, you know, occupy their time in the yard for a little while on a, you know, Sunday in the spring. Like you can do, like, we've always done Easter shit. Just like a little egg hunt and stuff like that. Like every year for the boys, they don't know shit about the Lord. Right. Like they're going to be, they're going to be surprised when they find out later that Easter is some.

Metal. Pretty metal. They had no idea. But I'm saying, I appreciate. that about it because it makes it easy to just cut all that out having said that it's not a huge thing for a you know well i could take her leave easter but i appreciate that aspect of it well i think a lot of people feel that way like easter's one of those holidays that like there's people that like you know there's people who like they consider themselves christians but they

don't go to church every week they're just like uh yeah but easter is a time when like every everyone's go like, well, we at least go on Easter and Christmas. And because of that, I've always sort of felt like the church considers Easter and Christmas like sweeps week. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like here's the theory, here's the theory with a church. They're like, okay, this, if we put on a really good show, then these people will keep coming. Like, we know we got them for Easter. And the the way that a church operates is they have to have a lot of members because they have to keep getting the tides and the offering and stuff like that. The building fund.

So Easter is like sweeps week. They're like, we know that people are going to be tuned in. So we've got to put on this whole show. And while they're here, try to get them to stick around for next week. Does that make sense? That totally makes sense. I mean, you know, never would have occurred to me. Yeah.

But I follow what you're saying completely. And I mean, I think that tracks. Easter's when you pull out all to stops. Yeah, exactly. How metal do they get in that crucifixion stuff? Like in the pageant? As metal as you can get without actually nailing the man to the cross. Like, he's up there.

You've got like squibs and fake blood and fucking cat of nine tails and shit. Yes, absolutely. Well, how do they not actually fuck the dude up? I'm like, okay. How did they? It was sound effects and they were just barely. How do they cast Jesus? Well, it was just the preacher did it. The preacher's always Jesus.

Well, in this, it was the associate pastor who was, the preacher's son. And he, you know, like, I'll be honest with you. I'm not kidding, looking about he did a really good job. But it's like, no, we didn't have a Jew. So it had to be him. And, you know, you do the whole, the whole Easter play is like, you do, you simulate, you know, Good Friday when he rides into town.

And then they do the Last Supper. And then they do his trial. And then they do the crucifixion. And then they do the resurrection. So there's a lot of set. changes and stuff. But like, yeah, man, they, they put him up there and they had the two thieves up there too and him talking to him. And they would basically, they had these huge, you know, thunder sound effects. They would play with the lights at the church. And, uh, I mean, no, they,

they came in and whipped him. But like, I think it, what it was is that the cat an eye and tells what it was. They had like t-shirt cloth at the end of it. And they just had sound effects and stuff like that. But like, they also put fake blood and stuff on his back and everything. Like it was, it's intense for kids to sit there and see all that shit. Right. God forbid they read mouse. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, but what's the like, I don't know, what's the rationale for that?

Like, because they are, these are the like, won't somebody please think of the children crap, like, you know, like, if you make a reference to a girl having her period, just a reference to it, like an illusion to it in a Disney movie, a lot of the same crowd who's at this Easter pageant are going to be going on Facebook like i can't believe this is they think disney thinks this is appropriate for my daughter i'm going to have this conversation with them now or whatever like how did those people you know rationalize the whooping jesus ass with fake blood and all that in front of in front of kids it's like those kids need to be i know right they need to be scared this is about their everlasting soul right it's because they care about jesus i know but they

It isn't that they don't understand. They fully understand how it's too much for a kid. They have to, dude. But it's worth it to them. Yeah, because it's the proper kind of too much for a kid. Yeah, exactly. There's no reason for, like, them learning about the Holocaust is not going to help them get into heaven, so it's too much. But this, I really do think they're just like, look, we understand it, but at all cost, kids.

And that's another thing, too, is like, they really do believe that a four and five year old is old enough and mature enough to make a decision based on their everlasting soul. Like, they think that that kid is able to do it. But that same kid, if they said, I think I'm attracted to other boys, they'd be like, you're too young. You can't possibly know that. But like, when it comes to your everlasting soul, they're like, yes. he's five. He is of the age. He can make this commitment. He needs to see Jesus get whipped. That's like, I know for a fact I've told this story on here, probably multiple times, but it's at least been a minute. So I'll do it again. This was at Christmas time, not Easter time, but my college girlfriend was from a real churchy ass family. No, no, post her. Real, real churchy ass family. She had a family member that worked in like a Christian corporation real high up. So he was like moneyed churchy to.

he was like business church like business church that's the word yeah and uh they had a big christmas thing at that guy's house in uh like uh fucking like uh bell view or somewhere like that in nashville like one of the hit in this neighborhoods in nashville but i don't remember which one uh and that guy that i'm talking about whose house it was business church man he had a like i think there's a christian superhero movie called that yeah Yeah, Kevin Sorboe was the star of it. Business church, man. Yeah.

Just throwing gays out of a boardroom. Yeah. Yeah. He had this five-year-old, a little boy, like, you're like, you know, the age you're talking about four or five, could not have been older than five. And he walked up to him and interrupted his dad in the middle of his dad, like talking to some other, you know, adults or something. And he's like cute little kids. He's like, daddy, daddy, daddy. So everybody stops and listens to him.

Like, oh, what kind of cute thing is this? his kid inside. So everybody in there is watching this little kid. He's like, Daddy, Daddy. And the guy stops, he's like, yes, honey, what is it? And he goes, is it twoo that the Jews killed Jesus? And the dad goes, that's right, honey, it is. And he was like, so anyway, the quarterly reports came out and it was not great. Like, literally, that's exactly what happened. And he just, he didn't elaborate. He's like, that's right, honey, it is. And then just turned around and went back to talking to the other business churchman. And I remember, like,

seemed like no one else was even a little bit affected by that. Of course not. And I was just over there in the corner like, what the fuck was that? Like, because like to a five year, all that kid knows is that like, all he's capable of understanding about this whole deal is it like,

Jesus, that's like the best dude ever. The best guy ever. Yeah. That's the best guy ever. He's your lord. He's like the top. He's awesome.

He's the cat's pajamas. Yeah. And so then for the kid to be like, and I think I heard somewhere, I feel like that the Jews killed him, the Jews killed him. Who would do something like that? That's correct. Now, who would kill the greatest man of all time? Like, this is a five-year-old thought process. Ask his dad for confirmation.

And all his dad gives him is yes. Yeah. That is what happened. That's true. No context, no nothing. Just gave him that. So now that five-year-olds just run around thinking like, how would a five-year-old in that scenario, like, not be terrified or apprehensive of Jews from that point on until something else happens in their life to give them a different impression? Because, like, that's all he's going to know to think.

And it's like, they killed the greatest man ever. Right. They're the people who did that. Like, it's fucking crazy. And when you're in the South, for the most part, I'm not sitting here saying that there's no Jews in the South. I'm aware that there are. That'd be an insane thing to think. But like there's not where we're from in our areas, there are not a lot.

No. Like you said before, I literally met the first Jewish person I met, I was like 20 years old in college. Right. And I remember it. I remember what you looked like. I remember everything because it was it was the first time. So my point is, is that it would be, it would take a long time for them to ever have another experience where it was. of that. Hey, welcome, Drew Morgan to the show. We're talking about Jews killing Jesus. Your thoughts?

They did that shit. Yeah, that's what we heard. That's what we heard. The Romans helped them, though. Yeah, for sure. You know, that's the thing, too. I would like, Easter talk. Trey, we were talking about the Easter pageant, right? And when we did the Easter pageant at church, they actually didn't go heavy on the portrayal that it was the Jews that did it. Like, it was all Romans.

Like in ours it was all Romans Like my Robbie's dad Robbie senior Like he was dressed up as a Roman soldier And like he speared Jesus and stuff So like actually whenever the Mel Gibson Gibson Passion of the Christ thing came out That was my first time when I was like

Oh wait it was the Jews that Because like in the Easter pageant It was just all Roman soldiers And like Pontius Pilate was the judge And like it was just my point is like My church actually didn't do the whole It was the Jews You know what I mean

So I say Before Drew gives us, his church's outlook on the Jews killing Jesus, we'll take a quick break to hear from our sponsors. Yeah, yeah. We'll be right back. All right. Yeah. Go ahead, Drew. Drew, you still there?

Yes, sir. So anyway, the Jews. Jesus. Yeah, we didn't do it that way either. It was Romans in our play as well. I mean, I remember in the story, the Jewish people, you know, put him on trial, but then they had to go to the Romans to get it done. You know, the Christian church's relationship, both evangelical and Catholic with the Jewish community, has been one of the wilder ones over time in America that there is. There's a bunch of people who are pro-Israel in the evangelical community.

Most of them. So they try not to be anti-Semitic, but they are. and they're only pro-Israel because they think it will bring Jesus back quicker. Right. Yeah. Is there any part of it that's like also because Israel's over there like with the Muslims? Meaning like. Oh, 90% of it.

Right. Yeah. Israel's like against the Muslims over there. Almost why? American conservatives are like, so that's our team. Also, yeah. Israel's the Jews that didn't come here. Right.

Which hits for them. Right. Right. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yeah, because it is wild. And Jews follow the Old Testament, right? Yes, exclusively. I'm pretty sure. Like, that's what the Torah is, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. So the tribes of Abraham are, you know, the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims. And in evangelical culture in America, they definitely prefer the Jews for a variety of reasons,

which are racial, political, convenient. And like I said, they think that. Israel existing will bring about the apocalypse and the second coming of Christ. That's the thing about them that's so wild is that, like, yeah, they genuinely are rooting for, like, the world to fall apart because that's the apocalypse and Jesus comes back, right? Well, it's even like that on a lower level with just their own lives. My mother-in-law talks about this, and she is a pretty hardcore Christian, but she's like, yeah, everyone around here, meaning like the South, because heaven's promised, they just kind of want to die. Right, exactly.

It's so they're not doing anything with their life. Yeah, that's their whole thing is like, no, Earth is not supposed to be good. That's not where you get your reward. So they don't care. Like, that's when they look at like global warming and stuff like that, they're like, awesome. Let the world. We don't get, we're not going to have a good time until we're all dead anyway. So why would we care?

Drew, I think I can hear me and Corey coming out of your. Yeah, you got headphones? That's why. I know Andy took him with her on the plane. Let me just say my internet's not great. I'll let y'all go anyway. I'm on the road. I'll just say real quick that I've been in traffic, the internet don't hit,

and he took my headphones. You know, it's one of them days. Yeah. At least you got the juice stuff in. And I think Big Rig should be outlawed. Yeah. Well, watch that. Good to see you, buddy.

Have a fun trip. Boy. Well, that was a fun little check. in from Drew. I didn't know I could ban. I could ban him from the studio. It says here. Yeah. Did you see, so I'm pretty sure Mark threaded it. Did you that that video that went viral of them Christians on that plane? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I tweeted about it too. I saw you just made a video today. Yeah. I was just wondering what you thought about that. And also I tried to, my first question was, and I tried to look it up and for one, I could tell unless I missed something, it's not,

it hasn't been like confirmed either way but I was like okay is that like a big ass church group that's got the whole plane for sure for right or is it like a commercial playing with regular people on it and a half of them or whatever are this church group because that makes a huge difference I think it's definitely that because you saw that in the I said that in the video because it's not if it's the former it's just I feel bad for them flight attendants but it's whatever you know like but no it's no it's It's definitely the latter. It's definitely the latter.

Meaning you think there's regular people on this? I know there are. And here's how I know there are. I tweeted about this. I looked at this one dude's face who it was happening to. And I screenshotted that and shared it with the video. And I was like, we are all this guy. And like, he's just sitting there like, Jesus Christ.

I thought the same thing. Like looking at that dude and there was another couple of people I looked at and I was like, they do not look like they're on board with this. No. But I just thought, you know, benefit of the doubt in the event it was because I didn't know, you know, I know churches be, they'd be doing all kinds of stuff. But yeah, I don't know. Like, what would you, like, if you was on a plane and that started happening,

I mean, I know what we both would do, I think, just like turning our headphones up as loud as possible and try to pretend that it wasn't happening. Either that or I'd have been the one that filmed this death. Yeah, right. But mostly, I would have, I mean, I would have already had my headphones in. I'm sure that I would have looked up to be like, are you fucking serious? I probably would have taken a quick video for, you know, my own purposes for the internet and also to show my wife. But for the most part, I'd have been like, okay, this podcast is about to get a little bit louder. But that bullshit, man, like, you can't, you know, like everyone like was retweet and stuff.

They're like, I don't understand how these people don't get that like, yes, it's their faith. But like, you know, you can't shove it down our throats and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, you can't, you don't understand how these people operate. Right. They have to do this. Yeah. Like, this is their godly duty. I was going to say something in the video at first, but I was just getting up against time.

So I put it when I was talking about, I'm not sure whether it's, whether it is a private plane or it is them with regular people. But if, but I was going to say, I have absolutely no problem believing that it is a commercial plane with regular people on it. Because I grew up in the South. And so on a multitude of occasions, I have been held captive by the Lord and an ostensibly public neutral gathering. Yeah. Like this whole like they just operate a lot of them especially in big groups they seem to genuinely operate under this like assumption that like this all hits for everybody. Yes. And if it don't hit for you, then it should.

And right. It should. And we're going to try to. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's just and it's wild. A billion people could reach like the entire world could retweet that saying this is stupid. And their take away from that would be like.

like, that's what they said was going to happen. This is just us being persecuted, but we have to, regardless, in the face of adversity, we still have to do this because we're trying to get these people to the Lord. Like, I've tried a million, like people try to rationalize their behavior. And I'm like, guys, they're always going to be like this because they genuinely, they genuinely believe that there's a hell. And if you're not on their team, you're going to it. and that person feels a responsibility to keep you from going there.

Like, you can't fucking do nothing with that person. Yeah, I, yeah, it's, it's some wild shit. It don't hit. No, and then, like, it reminded me of a thing, sort of, because then, and I talked about this in the video, Elon Omar from the squad, she tweeted the video and said, basically, I don't remember exactly, but it was basically like, what? if a group of Muslims held a prayer service in the middle of a flight

how do you think that would go over in this country? Not well. Which is a really good point because we all know exactly how it would go over. Right? And they got furious about that too. And it just like it reminded me of I didn't get into all this either because it was going to be

just like why I go back that far and just start bitching about Tim Tebow just because although it's always a good time. No, no go ahead. But I remember it made me think of I remember when Tebow was in the NFL on the Broncos and winning in games despite not throwing the football as a quarterback, which like they took as proof of the Lord, you know, but when he was in the NFL doing his thing, Tebow Mania and everybody was Tebow in

the Tebowin' The Tebow Pose and all that shit. When all that was going on, I remember on Facebook, I saw this meme get passed around. It was a picture of just, it was literally just a picture of Muslims praying, right? Like Muslims on carpets praying. You couldn't tell where it was. It could have been in fucking. Jordan or it could have been in a mosque in America. You had no way of knowing where that picture was taken.

It was just a picture of Muslims praying. And then beside it was a picture of Tebow, tebowing, right? Right. And the thing, they're passing around everywhere, the Christians, and the caption said, why is this okay the Muslims praying? Yeah. But this isn't. It was, though.

Tebow, tebowing. And I, you know, posted it on Facebook and was just going off because it drove me crazy because it was like, okay, so many things. First of all, it's clearly okay. He's a fucking cultural phenomenon right now. Right. He's all over the goddamn every channel, every day. Even people that don't fuck with sports are loving this shit.

100% just because of that. Right. It's hugely okay. Secondly, religious freedom, they're literally just praying like that or be okay too. But I guess you just don't want them to exist at all. But thirdly, if there was a fucking. Muslim quarterback Like pulling out a blanket

Yeah Yeah kneeling in the fucking end zone After scoring Yeah pulling a blanket out And doing that And giving up the aisle and stuff Y'all would be losing Your fucking minds

Well I saw a similar thing But they genuinely see it in reverse They truly believe it's reverse That they're the ones Who are on the persecution end Of that whole dynamic And it Their persecution complex is unbelievable

Love it Dude. I saw the same thing kind of going around of them people sharing it. It was Colin Kaepernick taking a knee and Tim Tebow doing his prayer in there, go, why do y'all think this one is okay and this one? And I go, that one wasn't okay. Right. It clearly wasn't.

He's not in the fucking league. Right. What are you talking about? Like that upset so many people. I think a lot of those people, and this is, of course, fucking ridiculous. But I think a lot of those people that would share something like that. I think Tebow's out of the league because of that. For similar reasons.

So stupid. They truly believe Tebow, they think about Tebow like a lot of people on the left think about Kaepernick, meaning they think he'd still be in the league just burning it up if he wasn't forced out for being Christian in America. All the quarterbacks are Christian. I know, but like the idea of a football player being pushed out of the game for being too Christian is assing. That fucking Kurt Warner just had a goddamn God movie drop last month. Right. Or whatever.

Like, dude. I've heard Arian Foster talk. at length at multiple points in his career, like right after he was out of college and right when he was in the pros and right after he left the pros about how difficult it was, because he's an atheist.

No, I know. Yeah, he played at Tennessee. I mean, yeah, and he was talking about how difficult that was for him. He's like, yeah, first off, I just didn't bring it up for a lot of reasons because like those cultures, most everybody is a Jesus freak.

Like most black, white, all of them. And he's like, and in the NFL, it was like various things. Like, I wouldn't, you know, I didn't want to come out. But once I said I was an atheist, like, I was weird. I was the weird one. So like it's not, he's like, people start treating you different. They look.

A lot of those people, they, these like sports people genuinely believe like, well, if you're an atheist, you don't believe in structure at all. So how could you play on a team sport? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it's, so get the fuck out. Like, every quarterback in the league, I guarantee you, well, at least half of them at least. are Christians very open about it. I'd say more than that.

Right, for sure. You know, and they're not all like in your face about it. No. You know what I mean? Like most like, because for the break, I'm,

I'm as godless as it. Well, I'm not as godless as it. It's a pretty godless motherfuckers out there. I'm pretty goddamn godless. Yeah. I don't care at all that. You know what I mean?

That these, they, we're all used to that. If you're going to fuck with sports, they're going to be giving it up to God after, you know, after the game or whatever.

And as comics have pointed out plenty of times before. like there used to be like an almost like a running joke is like I just want to see one guy blame God once for losing but then that happens uh stevie stevie johnson who played for the bills they lost a game and i'll never forget it like afterwards he didn't literally say like i'm putting this hell on on the lord he didn't say that he didn't say that but he did say like he said something like you know i really thought that god was with us in this one but i guess not Not, apparently not, because, you know, you saw what happened, and he, like, kind of blamed God for it, which was one of my favorite moments. Well, if he's the one that won it for you, he has to be the one that lost it for you. Carlin used to have that great bit where he's like, all the, all the football games always start off in the locker room with a prayer. They're like, dear God, please keep us safe during this exhibition, you know, let's see to it that none of us get hurt. And God's like, okay, what are you doing? well, we're running as fast and hard as we can at each other at full speed.

Oh, okay. Like, yeah, I mean, it's such a, it's such a God thing. But yeah, I don't. I didn't hate Tebow because he was a Christian. I hate him because he went to Florida. Florida, me too. I mean, all that stuff didn't help. Yeah, I'm sure that Stafford's a Christian.

I don't care. You know, that's fine. Do your thing. Yeah, man, I don't know. but the way they like the way they truly convinced themselves and genuinely believe that they

are among the most oppressed groups in this country that they're consistently persecuted by everybody else. It's their whole personality. I know. And they felt that way forever. Like forever. And I will say like it definitely

you know, we do live in a more accepting of other things across the board country than we did, let's say, in the 50s and 60s when it was only Jesus. But like, dude, even then they thought, like, dude, the world has been ending by these people's estimation ever since there was a Bible to tell you that it was going to happen. Like, it was always, we're in the end times.

I remember our pastor used to say, we're closer to the end times than we've ever been. I'm like, well, yeah, that, that would have to be how that worked no matter what but like always man like you know the world is worse than it's ever been

completely discounting the Holocaust completely discounting slavery completely discounting the crusades completely discounting the black plague like like no we live in a way better time are you fucking huh so yeah but they have to they like their whole model is

that the world is against us and we must stand up for what we believe in and they live in a country where the world could not be more for them, in my opinion. Exactly. And sort of on that note, another thing I talked about in my video about that, the Christian playing singers, was like they also, they convince themselves they're persecuted,

but they also just so baldly, truly believe that, like, everyone who agrees with them about everything. Like, if you agree with them about all the important shit, to, you know, to be agreed upon with. They truly believe that, like, all of society should be constructed entirely around their accommodation and their comfort level.

Do you know what I mean? Like, they don't. Yes. They, all the rules of society, all the rules of government, all of that, everything should be geared towards making a hit for them. Yeah. regardless of what any other group of people believe in. Conversely, if you differ from them, if you disagree with them,

they believe it should be the government's number one priority to keep your ass in check, you know, and have, you know, keep you, uh, fucking in your place. And it's just,

it's just a wild way to look. Because I truly feel like it's not, the reverse is not true. Like on, like on our side, it's like, it's the opposite, that we want the world to be as fair as possible for as many.

for as many people, as many different types of people as possible. The world should treat you generally the same, regardless of factors beyond your control, is all we're saying. And I've said this in the video too, but it's just kind of wild and ironic that they are the freedom fucker side. Yeah, right. And we're, you know what I mean? Like, they're the official fucking party of freedom,

despite everything I just said. Like, freedom don't fucking hit freedom to do any, anything other than all their shit. Yeah, they ain't with it at all. Again, though, the hardcore ones like always fall back on the like, but you don't understand it has to be this way because of Jesus and you're going to go to hell. Like, these are things beyond us.

Like, we can't be accepting because the Bible, if we're accepting of these people, that means we're going along with the world. We're being worldly and we're not supposed to do that. We are supposed to face this criticism and stand up for God no matter what. And it's not going to, like they would tell us from behind the pulpit, they're like, this lifestyle isn't going to make you any friends, you know, but you've got to do it regardless. And it's like, where I'm from, it absolutely makes you friends. It's the opposite, really.

Shitting me. Dude. The lifestyle is required for you to be accepted in this community at large. Yeah. And I'm not going to sit here and say that, like, I've been a godless motherfucker for a while. And I'm not going to sit here and say that like people actually, you know, shit on me or try to like throw eggs at my house for not being a critic. They don't. That's, but I have 100% been looked down upon and felt looked down upon from people in my community who still think that one day I'm going to come back to the church.

You know, like I'm just out sewing my wild oats. But like to them, I'm not just like, oh, he's doing his own thing. Like I have left the flock and I am. out living amongst the world and I am a worldly heathenistic center who I'm sure a lot of them were like we would not want our kids hanging around a place where Corey and his kids or Corey and his niece is you know what I mean because they're not they're not of us like they 100% do that shit yeah what um was it like that for did you feel that way in salina so I was actually that's what I was about to bring up I can't remember we talked about this before we I know we

talked before about how like how I only realized looking back how apparently wild salina was in a lot of different ways that I took for granted like I talked before by how like I had a really skewed perspective on just exactly how racist for example like a lot of the south was because I went to school with black kids and there's a black community in salina and like I said I've thought I've since found out from talking like pages age my sister and other people it really depended on the grade you were in apparently but like in my grade we had a fair number of black kids they all played on the sports teams together and stuff and like as i've said but like generally speaking people in my high school at least all the ones that i was ever around or in public like

they was not saying the n-word right that's how you got your ass with like sedrick did not play that shit right so people so people weren't saying it and it just like it wasn't out in the open and everything so i graduated thinking that all those stereotypes i was like dude that's that's bullshit. That's unfair. We ain't like that no more. And then I found out pretty quickly, I met people from other towns of a similar size, but not a similar makeup. And they were just like, bro, are you serious? They're like, everybody, it's the most crazy racist place you can imagine, you know. And so like, along with that, I guess there's a ton of churches in Salina, a ton of people go to church and all that. But honestly, all of my boys,

who now today are guys that are, you know, more like us culturally and philosophically and everything. But none of us and none of our families either went to church. None of us. Like my actual group of friends, like looking back on it, none of them.

A couple of them might have told you that, you know, they would have identified as Christian, but they didn't like ever go to church. And a lot of them just didn't fuck with it whatsoever. And we were like, you know, my group of friends was like,

the group of dudes in my high school. Right. You know what I mean? So, like, we weren't, it honestly wasn't like that in Salina, but Salina was also a very, very utterly broken place, right? I've also told you before about how every single one of my friends came from a broken home. None of their parents were married. No, one, one guy had married parents.

That's it. Everybody else is, and like, half everybody's fucking parents were now unemployed or on pills or whatever, and it's just like the church. God forgot that town, but the Lord left us behind, I guess. But it honestly wasn't, it wasn't like, you know, like the way you sort of described in Salina. But like I said, Salina was kind of different in a lot of ways looking back on it. Well, my core group of friends now, none go to church. Like none.

But like when y'all were in school and shit, y'all all went to church. We had to. It wasn't our choice. Yeah. Like our parents were always like, look, when you turn 18, you can make your own decision. And then none of us have stepped foot since we were 18. And I think all of them were just like, oh, no, we thought that it would keep like, no, you're 18. Don't have to do it?

Cool. But like all like that, my core group of friends all went to that same church. I know a lot of people in our areas who, they're still my friends, but you know what? You're the core group, you know. Yeah, right. A lot of them still go to church, but they didn't go to that church. You know what I mean? And it seems like everyone who went to that church was immediately like, fuck this.

We're not, because it was very. I mean, is that the same church from that story about your dad taking y'all out of there? Because the preacher was racist. Yeah. Yeah, same one. Yeah, maybe that particular church just didn't. No, I'm saying. Like, there's another, because there's another church around here that we ended up going to after that one that, like, it's one of, like, it is denominational.

But it is, it is, denominational, but it's, like, skews to the side of, like, but we want everybody to come here and like it was super contemporary you know they they didn't sing so much gospel music as they did like praise music which like that part actually don't hit for me i genuinely like gospel and hymns that was my favorite that was the only part of church that i liked like the songs were really good and we had a really good choir but we go over there and it was a more accepting place and those people still kind of go to church you know what i mean so like there's something to be said for that that the place i went to that was completely like you're either with us or you're a against instance and it was every service was like hellfire and brimstone like every service was like

tent revival shit and this other one was like very loose very very loving and other churches like no you can't play it like that you got to be hardcore every you know like i told you that one fucking church um the the the preacher's son he caught him when he was in middle school he called him jacking off and he made him go up in the pulpit and apologize to the people for him jerking off. They didn't even have to know. That's, that's insane.

He probably flogs himself in a fucking, yes, dude. I like fucker from, just takes his shirt off and nails in front of a shrine to fucking, you know, somebody and just whips his own ass with a belt. It's so funny. You're referring to,

uh, you're referring to, um, uh, what's the TV show? Michael Shannon in, um, boardwalk empire.

Boardwalk empire. And also, there are people who do that. No, I know. In Angels and Demons or the Da Vinci Code 1, that weird, that wild-ass monk dude. Yeah. He flogged himself. So flogging himself is kind of a go-to for me when we're talking about these type of people.

No, but I was saying it's funny because I'm not going to say the person's name because I'm not going to be like his dad and out him like that. But whenever I saw that first Michael Shannon seen in Boards of Boardwalk Empire with him doing that, I was like, I bet you blank does that shit. I'm serious. Yeah, it checks out. Yeah, but that's just like, that's an intense, fucked up thing. And by the way,

that wasn't, now, that dude, he went to our church when I was younger, and then he was so insane that he had to go off and start his own

more closer to snake handle in church. Yeah. And that's a whole, wild enough. No, and that's a whole. Snakes in here. Yeah,

and that's a whole different level. And then like, there's like, then there's like other sex, like the church of, Christ is like less intense maybe about that stuff, but like you can't have, they can't have musical instruments. They also, and I'll get some of these wrong, but I'm pretty sure in Salinas, okay.

It was the Church of Christ that was like one of them, I feel like it was the Church of Christ, we're very specific about like, it wasn't just people who aren't Christians are going to hell or, it was like anyone who isn't literally the same exact denomination as Like if it was Church of Christ, if I'm not wrong about that, then they were like, you know, Presbyterians, Methodist, Baptist. Go in hell. Non-believers, burning in hell for all eternity. It's them because they had a-

Music, the instrument. You're right, music was the whole thing. I remember, didn't really help them. And the reason that they felt that way from a theologian standpoint is that all of those other denominations believe in, I'm pretty sure, once saved, always saved. Like if you accept Jesus into your heart, then, you know, obviously you're going to sin. Everybody sins.

Like nobody, no Christian believes that there's other. The only person who literally never sinned is Jesus Christ. We have all sinned and come short of the glory of God. That's what they say. But in Church of Christ, and I'm sure we're going to get some emails about this, but their whole thing is like they have to get saved every single time they sin. So like we're talking multiple times. Like, if you're a church of Christ and you look at some tities, you have to then get saved again.

And I'm going to finish talking about that after this. Yeah. Okay. Is that some kind of Catholic influence or something? Probably how Catholicism works, right? Yeah. Like, it's, you have to. When you sin, you got to confess and do your whatever, your alms or absolution, whatever that shit is.

You got to do four, hello, Mary's. and four hell marries and three. Hello, Mary. Yeah, well, yeah. You know what I mean? You got to do certain notes. And then you're back in the good graces. Yeah, so similar.

And I say that too because like the Church of Christ and it's more of a structured service, whereas Catholic is a lot like that too. Like Southern Baptist kind of, you know, it's a different show every week. You know what I mean? Like they're doing some different songs. Their preachers kind of wing it a little bit more. But over there, it's like, we do, they do communion every week because you have to take the Lord's supper every week.

like that's a that's a thing but like what was always the argument that my dad made was some of his church of christ's friends they also believe that you're not saved unless like you have to get baptized right afterwards or you're not saved and so my dad would always be like okay so so every time y'all sin and get saved again y'all getting baptized again they were like well no and he's like well i thought you said that in order to be saved you have to be baptized and they're like you do and he's like but i also said thought y'all said that you have to get saved every time you sin they're like we do. He's like, well, what about the baptism? Well, nobody's got time for that. It's like, oh, so the Lord lets you off the hook because you ain't got time for that?

Well, you kind of just made me think of something else, talking about the Church of Christ and that whole, like, you know, it ain't just non-Christians. It's even Christians who don't have this specific version of Christianity. They're burning in hell too. And all that stuff you were saying earlier, and I mean, I know you're right, but you're like, you've got to understand with these people like they truly believe that a huge chunk of the world is going to fucking burn in hell and it's their job to keep that from happening i think that for a lot of them ultimately deep down i feel like they don't though yeah because and it's because like just using that as one example in a small town of tight-knit community it's wild if you go to that church and every

football game and pta meeting and stuff seeing the other dads who go to the methodist church you know it's wild to truly believe that they and their family are damned for eternity and to just let that slide. Like, shouldn't they be constantly trying to convert the Methodist over to their side, like, all the time? And you know what I mean? I guess. Wouldn't that be a huge problem for them if they truly believed that all this other chunks of their community was going to burn in hellfire? Are they just like, well, they made their bed with the Jews and the queer? So, I mean, let them lay in it.

But it's also how, like, that queer bed. Big thread count on the queer bed, by the way. Big time. Highestred count. So it's kind of like how, you know, I would say of all the Republicans that you hear screaming about how wrong abortion is, you know all of them don't really believe that.

Yeah, right. Like they can't because they've had them before. So maybe there is part of it that's like, look, we don't deep down actually believe all this shit, but we want to be in charge and this is structure. So many of them like, I mean, my sister was, talking about she's my sister don't go to church and it's not a thing that she once we left the church she didn't go but then she had her kid and she goes yeah we were thinking we might start

going to church again i was like would you start believing again all of a sudden she's like what's not that it's just like you know it's just good structure for the kids and like so many of them truly believe that the only way that a child knows how to be like a good kid is the church like if a kid's not raised in church like there's no way so many of the them think that there's any way you have good manners and know how to actually be because you didn't grow up in the church. No, I know. We've talked about this before too, but yeah, I mean, I've had conversations with people that I knew well. I thought were like friends who would talk about, who would like bring up the Bible or something and they're totally sincere and they're like, well, my whole thing,

man, is like, you know, if we didn't have the Bible, how would we know to love thy neighbor? How would we know the difference between right and wrong and all the, and I can tell they really mean this stuff and I'm like dude you you or not need to Bible for none of that like you or just be that people clearly knew it before something is wrong with you yeah I mean it's in all the book it's in all of those books right and the reason it's in there is because someone thought that to write it down which means that the thought of it existed it's not like it nobody was out there loving their neighbors until fucking you know ain't shit James decided to fucking put it in the book.

Like, that's crazy. That's, you know, like Penn Gillette said that thing one time that's always resonated with me. He goes, somebody asked me, he goes, because you're an atheist, they go, that's so like in your head, you believe that you can just rape and murder however much you want. And he goes, I do rape and murder however much I want, which is none, zero, which is zero. I'm not a rapist or a murderer. I don't want to do that.

I know, I'm saying a glimpse in those people's minds is wild because it just, you just because it implies that, like, without those things, they would be doing that. They'd be out just raping and murdering all the time. It's just, it's about, because you could tell they're confused by us being like, I don't need the Bible to tell me not to rape somebody. I just don't want to rape anybody. And you could tell they're just like, I don't, I don't get how that, I don't, that don't make no sense to me. You brought that up with, like, we were talking about the movie, the purge the other day.

and you were like, you were like, I just don't think that there's a lot of people who the law is the only thing keeping them from being a marauding rapist murderer. And I agreed with you, but then I thought, however, what would end up happening if the purge was real? There would be that one person that's like,

all right, but I mean, I'm going to kill my father-in-law because he's had it cut. Anybody who really wants to kill somebody, if there was a purge, it would become official murder day because all those people would be like, well, it's the day for. it. I think it would take care of, like, I think mostly percentage-wise, it would mostly be

bad people that got murdered, though. I think it would be those people that a lot of people like, you don't think neither you nor I would make anybody's purge list. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. But maybe we'd probably a little further down. Yeah, I would just, you know, we'd take him six or seven perges to get to us, probably. Yeah, also, I think me and you are, you know, we're not like loaded, rich or nothing, but we're well enough to where, like, I think we could find a good place to hide during the purge. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Also, and I said this in the original conversation you're talking about, but disclaimer, just everybody knows, I have not actually sat through the purge. No, me either. I'm just talking about the concept as I understand it. So if y'all are purge fans and you start wanting to hit us with a bunch of like,

well, actually in those movies, you don't have to do that. I haven't seen them. I'm talking about just the idea of it as I understand it, is the context, how that came up. But may have to end a little early this week, right, Corey? you got out coming up, don't you? I've got to hop out of here.

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