wellRED podcast - #295 - Uploading Your Brain To The Cloud + Game Of Thrones and House Of The Dragon Talk

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

#295 - Uploading Your Brain To The Cloud + Game Of Thrones and House Of The Dragon Talk*We save the GOT and HOTD talk for the last 15 minutes so no worries about anything being spoiled:)*This week the boys go down the rabbit hole on some dystopian AI scenarios, react to the shocking news of Leslie Jordan passing away, and Corey and Trae talk a little Game Of Thrones!Go to PartTimeFunnyMan.com to subscribe to Corey's bonus stuff!TraeCrowder.com for tickets to shows (NASHVILLE DECEMBER 15-17!!!)DrewMorganComedy.com to see DrewEXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/wellred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee!

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You listen to the well-read podcast. And listen to the well-read podcast, ye shall, right now. Fuck. I really hope that that sound. I really hope that that sound is on the recording because it was like right. It was right at the moment the recording turned on. You heard a very loud catholic splash. I think that it hit it right there.

Like right when we hit recording. The very first second of this recording is either, I hope, the beautiful, like, dude, that was folly. artist perfect. You know what I mean? Like that sound effect was incredible because it was real. It's either, it's either that sound effect or drew screaming in response to that sound

effect. Fuck! And either way, it's pretty funny. And we're definitely leaving that in. I'm also going to save it for water. It's a topo chico. I'm also going to save that. I've been collecting sounds lately

because my new passion is being a being a foli artist, so I'm going to copy that, put it in my little folder, which uh, y'all, y'all won't be surprised. The, what do you think is mostly in the folder of sounds? Farts. Yeah, farts. Yeah, it's mostly fart point one, fart point two. But hold on. I didn't know you, you, you've actually been doing this. Have you been like, have you been like thinking of sounds and then trying to replicate them and like doing little experiments and shit? So I'm, I'm about to be, You see the thing at the top of the, the little XLR thing here. So that's really good for picking up, you know, room sound and stuff.

And so I've been taking this to the park with me and like, you know, because I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about doing some audio dramas and I have some scenes where like soldiers are marching. So I've been like recording my footsteps and stuff. I've been like hitting trees with golf clubs. You know what I mean? And then like throwing crab apples at the road and stuff and just collecting all these little sounds. And like me and my buddy Chris were talking.

talking about. I was like, I want to figure out how to like, like, if I'm going to do like a, if there's a spaceship, I want to figure out like, I'm going to go to a recycling center and start beating, a recycling can, you know, like a metal thing with stuff and then like layer those sounds on top of each other. And I have no idea what I'm doing. Part of the fun to me is trying to do it without any knowledge of how to do it. You know what I mean? Just like inventing stuff. I need to, I need to hear the genesis because I feel like you're just like out in the woods beating a fuck out of trees one day and then you were like Marjorie Taylor Green's district coming through you throwing crab apples of cars just committing misdemeanors well then just being like you know I could

write this off if I got arrested well well the way it started was that when I do my comedy videos that have a fart in them I always use my own farts you know it's got some integrity and I was artistic integrity you see yeah and so I was like I'm outsource your farts and I was trying to to give you something else. I was trying to get. I knew it was farts. No, well, I'm getting there. I'm getting there. So I've been on several podcasts recently and the, like I just did Travis Irvine's podcast, the top hat on the last podcast network. Y'all go check it out. It's a great podcast. I think Tray was on there a couple weeks ago. And they were asking me about where I got the farts. And I was very proud to be like, actually, every fart you hear is my fart. Sometimes it's three or four farts layered on top of one to really give it the fart I need for the moment. And I always comes back to how. how many farts are in a fart. And I've been joking, I've been joking about how I'm going to add Foley artist to my multi-hyphenate,

you know, but it was always with farts. And then I started, I've been, I've been kind of working on these audio drama. I've got one script kind of ready to go that I'm doing for part time funny man.com. And I was like,

I want to actually do this. Like I don't, I want to go into that world and, and I want to be able to at the end of this, be like, and sound design by Corey, you know, Forster.

Like, there's obviously places you can go to get stock sounds. And there's some that I'll probably have to do for that. But I was like, no, I want to like, I want to just start collecting sounds. So I just take my recorder out into the woods. I record a lot of me stomping around. You know, and I just go hit random things and collect that sound. And, and yeah, it's just, it's fun.

You wear those pink glasses when you're in the woods with your recorder, beating shit up. Well, I mean, these are my prescription glasses. So, yeah. I just, like, what do you think Corey looks like now? Like, it was like, there's that guy who's liberal and now he's just walking. it around the woods. A lunatic. Recording fart. Yeah. Well, I don't record the farts outside.

I always record my farts in the car because you get the echo. You know what I mean? Like, you wouldn't want to do that. And I do those with a different mic too. I'm ashamed of bringing it up. That's your, that's your sole pair of prescription glasses? Well, I have a, it's my sole pair. I have a pair of prescription sunglasses,

but this is my sole pair of prescription glasses, yeah. Did your therapist like literally prescribed that you look at the world through rose-colored lens? No, but no, but you and everyone on the internet has made that joke, mostly conservatives, which I got, I got to give it to him. That's actually really funny. They're like, can you believe this guy is literally saying this through rose-colored glasses? But I do have to, like, does it, does it, does everything take that tent for you? Yeah, but it's actually, like, honest to God. Is that not super annoying? No, no, it's better. Like, when I take, like, it's, it genuinely is better to look at the world like this. Like, you know, and no, it just is. I don't know. It just is. I don't know. Well, granted, you got to understand this. What about when you're watching a movie or something? It's totally fine.

They're not sunglasses. It's just a little tint. Yeah, but everything's tinted. Not a lot. It's like putting an Instagram filter on everything you look at. It's not really, I'll let you put them on next time we're together. It's not that. It's not as intense as you would say, but like I genuinely like the color.

Like when I'm outside, the world looks prettier and better. Like it's brighter somehow. Like the reason I did it was because, because I wanted, I think the reason I lost my glasses the first time, sincerely, is because I was taking them on and off a lot to make buttercream dream videos. And I'd sit them down somewhere and I'd put my shades on. And I was like, well, I'm just going to do this. And that way I'm always ready to go for a buttercream dream video.

And maybe it'll make me want to do more of those because, like, I wake up and I look at myself and I see the champ. You know what I'm saying? But like, I also do video. It is very normal glasses on. But, like, I don't wear my glasses in my videos. either, you know, but yeah, but, but Katie's just like you. People that, I think people that have a low level prescription, like to me, to someone whose eyes have been super don't hit my whole life, uh, and have only gotten worse, really.

The idea that you could forget to put your glasses back on is I just got them the same. I know, but I know, but it's like, I can't function without my God. No, no, no, no, not, not, but I know that Katie, Katie's. She does it all the time. Lost them. And the thing, and I'll say this about these glasses too. You're like, doesn't that get annoying? I lost my glass.

I needed glasses, got them right before the pandemic, lost them during the pandemic, and then was like, we weren't going nowhere. So I was like, fuck it. I'll just be blind at my house. So I've needed these motherfuckers for three years. So having them on right now is such a relief that like the tent, like, I just think it's cool. Like it just, everything's just kind of, kind of far out, man. I want to defend that.

I have two different shades of yellow and an orange pair. Andy's got like green, magenta, all kinds of shit. There's a few, if they're too dark, where I'm like, this is too much. But for the most part, it hits. Like, he's completely right about that. Yeah. And like you said, oh, is it not like looking through an Instagram filter? I mean, maybe, but those things exist for a reason too.

You put them on there and you're like, oh, that's better. Yeah, it's very light. It's very like, I thought at first I was like, when it gets nighttime, it's going to be weird. but like it's not. Arguably something about, I think too, like I'm real sensitive to light. Like that's part of my eyes fucking up.

And I think this kind of like shades it even a little bit more and just it makes it better for me. That's also the calming color. It is. That shade of pink is the number one calming color. That's what they're putting in prisons, right? Yes. Everyone thought it was to, I think it was to humiliate them at first.

And it was like, it actually makes their life better. So they'll change it. Yeah, right. So that's, that's why I got these because I was just like, I'll just be the, buttercream dream all the time.

You know how to take them off. So what's this AI stuff? Drew sent a video the other day. Wasn't it, wasn't you that sent that video where they had AI, Drew? They had, they put like, they gave this AI a prompt and it was like humanity, right? And so the evolution of humanity. Yeah, the evolution of humanity. And it started out as like, you know, an amoeba, the pool of goo or whatever.

And then slowly turns into the humunk. and then into the caveman and then into what we are. And then it slowly starts turning us into robots. And then after that, it finally goes into where like there's not, the robots are even gone. And I don't know how you interpreted the end of it, Drew, but to me it looked like a bunch of circuits and basically that we were all going to be just ones and zeros. You know what I'm saying? Like consciousness.

I watched it like nine times. And what I think happened is there was back. It wasn't just, you know, there was an image in the forefront of a background. So the monkey was in a jungle, you know, the human was in a city. It was kind of blurry, but there was background. That robot had a background. And what it did was the background changed and the robot changed until they merged. So it looked like it became the buildings and the buildings were also robots.

It was harrowing. Yeah, it was pretty rough. That's the singularity, isn't it? That is the singularity. It's a pretty common. Precept and Futurology and sci-fi and stuff. Which I'm interested in. What a lot of people think is maybe going to happen.

But what I thought was interesting? My, what's the word when you can only see something through like the lens of being a human? Not xenophobia. That's like you're on the other country. Something centric, not egocentric, but not, it's like a hemocentric or something like. Maybe anthrocentric. We're going to go with that. Thank you, SmartTray.

So my anthrocentric viewpoint, it's like, oh, the robot bothers you because it's not really human anymore. But that's still us, right? Because at first it was a human with just like a robot arm or some shit. It started out like that, but even the robot would be based on us and it would have consciousness in theory. At least that's how I was imagining it, right? Conceptualizing it. You're right about the singularity. But one thing that bothered me that was different to me is I've always conceptualized the singularity as the robots make everything.

thing them. I don't really, I'm doing a bad job of expressing this. There was something extra disturbing that the robot disappeared. That the singularity wasn't one giant robot. Singularity of everything in it. It faded into everything else. Right.

Yeah, because like we, I think the general idea, and it varies, you know, between different people, whoever is the one, you know,

talking about it or writing a book about it or whatever at any given point in time, I reckon. But it's just that you eventually, in that evolution, you eventually leave behind any kind of physical manifestation or vessel. And you just sort of, we become, consciousness becomes the clad. There's no need for robots or any kind of bodies anymore. You transcend that.

And consciousness exists in the fucking ether or whatever. And you can never die. And the singularity is the, is the, is that, like, that seems to be an evolution of like the consciousness you upload it to the cloud and then there's no need for anything else. The consciousness becomes the singularity eventually. And again, I know I'm doing a bad job of expressing this.

It felt like the consciousness came from outside of the human altogether in that particular piece of, I guess art. Are we calling it art? Well, the singularity is the theory, I think, in layman's terms is the theory that we are now making AI, but eventually AI gets so powerful.

that AI starts making AI and then you can't control it. Right, Tray? It's like it takes on itself and it's an exponential thing. And like once AI gets so good, it don't even need us to make the thing because it's just and then we're fucked. Or it's good. Who knows? Well, there's also the version of again where it's like we that we're part of that evolution. Like we get uploaded into our own matrix or whatever on purpose.

Would you want to upload your consciousness into something like that? No. Well, do you feel like, okay, if we're doing this happen. I think it's here. I was about to say you probably, you don't feel like reality heaven, you know, and there's going to be virtual reality prison on day three, dog. Yeah, right. You're literally in there for eternity. Yeah, but like, you know, just don't do the virtual reality crimes.

You won't do the virtual reality time. You know what I'm saying? Well, you could say that like they don't make that anyway. Hold on the goodness of humanity. Hold on just a second. Hold on a second. Now it's it's possible that they wouldn't even let the pores and the people who commit crime even upload it to that. So it would just be for us. That's what I'm just like the reason I think it will hit at least at first is because the elite are only, it's going to be their own virtual elysium. They're not going to make it as a torture. The metaverse. It's going to be a fucking utopia only available to them for a very long time, if not for ever. which is why I think it's probably just a garden of delights. You know, I don't think.

And, you know, there's some. And then, yeah, if you cross them, they'll throw you into the... But how could you even cross them to watch it not even remotely go that way? But how could you even cross them? There's been examples of humans only the rich could access. I mean, literal frontiers. If we're talking about expansion into other countries, they'd have to bring pores with them. But, like, once you get there, the rules is different.

Right. Right, they explode them in the railroad tunnels. I don't see it, I don't see it. I think it'd be hell quickly. Well, let's take a break, and we'll talk about that right after this. Hey, everybody, it's Uncle Daddy here with a quick plug. I want to let y'all know that I'm going to be in New York City. Skew York City, that's right, Skew York City, everybody.

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Was where you can find it. Drew Morgancom. I don't think that I would want to be, because, like, I feel like in this situation, I mean, you're like alive forever, right? Like, there's no way that. I would assume there's a, there would definitely be an off switch, I would think. Right. I'd hit it pretty quick, I think.

But what's pretty quick? If you're talking about eternity, you could sit in there and fucking, just get. Also, you wouldn't get fatter. Right. Like golf. You know, I always kind of thought, look, say what you will about it. And I know it's a different situation in what we're talking about right now, except not really on account of the planet's dying and everything.

It is sort of similar. I always kind of thought that outside of killing all is. homeboys and all that, that cipher in the Matrix was fucking on to something where because like the idea of like, just put me back in and make me not know like because, because fucking this ain't it. And, uh, you know, because it ain't it. And like, no, it's not it. But you would in this scenario, you would know, but I'm just saying like, uh, I don't

know. I feel like, well, maybe they could do something to make you not know. Yeah. But I don't know if that would. I think the idea is that it's entirely, at first, it's like an elective procedure. Right. If you don't want to die, you upload your content. That's the other thing too.

Presumably in this scenario, you'd be like 80 years old, 90, whatever, and make it that far. Then you get uploaded into the cloud. Now you're fucking 24 again. Right. You're ripped if you want to be. You can eat whatever the fuck you want to do. You can do whatever the fuck you want to do. And it's like, that would hit for at least a little.

little while. Like, it's like, but are you really eating? It's like inventing heaven. Like, heaven ain't real, but it's like making heaven real. But again, only for the rich people. But what are you going to do? That's just, it's our conception of heaven though, right? Like, I think that one thing that a lot of philosophers believe, and I think they're on to something, is that a lot of the positives we go through in life and joys only exist because of their absence in other times. If I've never seen the sunshine, Lord, I would not curse the rain, Whalen Jennings. Right. And if you've never cursed the rain, why would you appreciate the sunshine? Like a common fear of people who talk about even living forever, even just in this plane, fuck heaven.

It's just like eventually everything you like gets old. Now, I think you're kind of that would be like, yeah, but wouldn't you want to try it for a little while? I would, but I would be terrified too. The idea of uploading my consciousness into something like that, is there a full? fail safe, the button you're allowed to hit to end it all. If you hit it one day and it don't work, you literally can't get out. Now, you are literally

describing hell. But you could try different things. And eternity in which you cannot escape. This is also this is going to piss you off and I don't mean it to, but it occurs to me that this is sort of something about this reminds me of people that refuse to take the vaccines

right now because they're like, what if all this other shit happened? Because I feel like in this thing, you could communicate. with these people, there's no reason you wouldn't be able to. Like, if your papal got uploaded to virtual heaven or whatever, you could fucking put on some glasses and holler at him or whatnot. Like, there would be a shitload of people who undergo this experience who could all, like, they still exist.

They can be reached. They can give their account of what happens. If it, like, you would know, it's like, you would know, you'd know the side effects of the vaccines and shit by now if they were killing us all, probably because billions of people got it. It wouldn't be billions of people in this scenario. but it's like, I don't think it's just shut off from, you know, physical reality. And it's like the great, now it's like literal heaven.

Those of us that are alive are not, cannot possibly know what's on the other side of it. I don't see why it would have to be that way. If it's something that we create, you know everything about it. You could get firsthand accounts from people there. Well, they'd have to go do it first. I mean, I think it's very true that I might feel differently if this thing existed for a decade. It's coming. I had, you know, that relationship with it because it is all conjecture during this conversation in the unknown.

And I would just be terrified of the very, very dark possibilities and the difference there between that and your analogy with vaccines is, number one, we've had vaccines forever, forever. Number two, the literal worst thing that can happen is death. And what I'm describing is an inability to have death. And that is my literal biggest fear. So we're talking about that for me personally, we're touching on my biggest fear. Like my absolute biggest fear would be to be alive forever or conscious, I guess is a better way to phrase it to be conscious forever. So like, you know, I think that since that's a distinct possibility, I would have to see years of this stuff working. The other thing I want to say about it that's slightly different what I said about prisons and all that.

if we get this technology, they will start doing that to save space. They will say to like, and that's, that shit freaks me the fuck out. I don't want it. Your family can get this much money if you upload yourself. We don't need this shit. They'll be like, instead of putting this guy in prison for 10 years, we'll make him experience prison for 15 years. And that, oh, it gives me the fucking. They already, they're already like experiment with that.

I'd say I saw an article recently about some scientist somewhere. like announcing that, you know, with excitement. Like, we may soon be able to and it was supposed to be this like big breakthrough, but a whole lot of people are like, that's a fucking nightmare. Like, yeah, it's literally a blackmail episode. It is exactly. They covered that exact. One of my favorite ones, John.

Yeah, it hits real hard. What's the, what are you at on like? I hate it so much. Surrogates. Like, that's a movie like Bruce Willis, but like, if they make like a cyborg or an android or a new meat sack or however they do it, They 3D print. Also the island. They 3D print a new bot.

No, I'm not talking about clones. Okay. I mean, maybe it's like a clone, but with no consciousness. I'm talking about the idea of uploading your consciousness, not to the cloud, but to a new vessel. Boy, I'm so like. So now you just got, you could have your same body or you could be like a shredded Jamaican dude, I guess, if you wanted to be.

I would do that so I could do that accent. Or transitions would be much easier. You could do that at any point in this scenario. You know, just get uploaded into a, you know, brick shit house lady, if that's who you want to be. That shit would be wild. I guess, yeah, and that means anybody could do it if you could. Again, this is all if you could afford it. Money.

Rich people's shit. But if you could afford it, you could just go get a ripped version of yourself tomorrow. Like at first in my head, I was thinking about when you're almost dead, you get like a younger body and upload your conscience into that and keep going for a while. There's a lot of different, a lot of different shit you could do with that. Yeah. Do you want to be a golfer? We already do small versions of this, which is sort of what Black Mirror is about. We already live online as a slightly different version of ourselves. We're just taking that and extending it to.

But what if you could literally be a different person? What if you could literally experience a completely different avatar as you go through life? You know, what if you're ripped, as you say, Trey, or 10 years younger? When people do that now, we call it catfishing, right? Like we look down upon it. You're talking about a society in which it's just widely accepted. We're doing all that. I'm not necessarily against any of that.

It just freaks me out to think about your consciousness being uploaded anywhere because consciousness is finite in this meat suit I'm wearing. And in that world, it's still probably finite because the sun's going to burn up Earth. But that's so far from now. And it just all, you know, because like what if you get uploaded in there and you're like, I want to be here for a, I want to be here for, I want. I want to try this for 10,000 years. And while you're in there, the AI takes over, and then it just decides to keep you there or forgets about you and doesn't give a shit.

It just, there's so much about it that freaks me out. Have you ever read, I have no mouth and I must scream? No. It is fucking wild. And you just said, you just tell if you get in there and the AI decides it don't give a shit about you. It's a sci-fi story about an AI that, you know, it's like in the far, flung future and we created this AI that turned malevolent. And now it fucking hates humanity with every fiber of its, you know,

like electronic being. And it's fucking gnarly. It's by Harlan Ellison. Thanks his name. His famous sci-fi writer. But you should read it directly after this conversation. It's not that long. And it speaks to a lot of what you're talking about.

But I was, uh, fuck, you made me think of something. and now I can't remember. What would you do? Oh, my main thing, my main thing with all this that I have, I'm talking, I know I'm sounding like I'm for it, but really for me, because this has been a fixation of

mine for a while, we've talked about this on the podcast before, but it was when it came to the idea of teleportation, but the same principles apply is that with any of this stuff, I would worry that it would be like in the prestige where it's like, it's not you. It's not actually, they upload your consciousness, but all it really is is a perfect direct copy of your consciousness. And when that consciousness wakes up in your new shredded Jamaican meat sack, it thinks it's you, because it has every memory you ever had.

It has no way of knowing it's not you. So it's going to report back to the authorities as, but yeah, 30 seconds ago, I was that dumpy white dude over there. Now I'm shredded in Jamaican. It worked. But it didn't really,

the dumpy white dude, the old version of you just shut off and died basically. and this new copy of you is now walking around living your, uh, you know, uh, your Jamaican and I'll say, I'll say the same thing. That's the part that fucks me up about all that type of shit. Because I, because I don't see how you could ever really prove that that isn't happening no matter

what because of what I've already said. So like that, that's the part I kind of kind of get past. I made this argument then and I'll make it now. I think that's a feature, not a bug. Because to me, it kills two birds with one stone.

I get to be dead, but my family doesn't have to grieve my loss. You know what I'm saying? I don't have to exist anymore. Your family is going to be hanging out with the Jamaican? Of course. Of course. You know how much jerk chicken my dad would make me make? How would they have to be uploaded to do it?

Huh? No, no, no. Well, there's two. This is a different thing. What I just said goes for both scenarios. It applies to both scenarios. But there's the, the shredded Jamaican thing. That's the version where it's like they have.

have, they can 3D print new bodies for people. So we're not talking about existing in the matrix. It's in the physical world. It's just you get a new vessel versus uploading your consciousness into a virtual world. But what I, my problem with both. What trace head still applies. It applies to both scenarios and it fucks me up. Right.

Because I don't want to be dead, Corey. Slight, slight caveat on Corey's point. Either I get to be dead or I get to be a ripped Jamaican. Like, I can, I've been in places in my. life where I'm absolutely taking that gamble. Now, currently right now, I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing pretty good. I'm fine with me.

But there's definitely been years, not days, years where I'd be like, either way, son, either way, light it up. Yeah. I think the question is just like the question you'd want to ask, but it still don't prove it or answer it definitively, I think. But it's like the people who run this procedure, it's like, could you put me, into that shredded Jamaican 3D printed meat sack, right? Without this version of me, then being empty and soulless,

meaning like, you know, could you just copy it and put it there? And then I wake up, and now there's a clone of me who's shredded in Jamaican. You know what I mean? Like, is that a thing you can possibly do? That don't hit. No, that don't hit.

That's what I'm saying. That's opposite hit. Because it's like, If it's just the thing that they choose not to do. Because you just got more Jamaicans. But do you understand what I'm saying? Which is fine. If it's just a thing that they're choosing, like there's a point in the procedure where they're like, okay, so copy it, upload it.

Now shut that one down, right? You know what I mean? And if they just don't shut that one down, now there's two of them. And one of them shredded in Jamaican. That's a brain transplant. Then it's like, then clearly it ain't. working way it's supposed to because it should only be possible to go unilaterally. They shouldn't be able to both exist at the same time.

And if it's possible they both exist at the same time, then I believe that that's what's happening is some the prestige shit where it's not actually you. It's just a copy of you and none of that. And really, people are just killing themselves off every day. In a world where they could do that, we have to entertain the possibility. What you're describing is consciousness and what it means and our understanding. of it. I guess it's possible. I don't know how they'd prove this because we're trying to conceive of things that the smartest people in the world can't conceive of, much less us. But what

you're really getting at is what is consciousness, how does it manifest itself? You know, copy versus like, can you actually move consciousness from one being to the next? That sounds totally impossible, but I'll remind you that in this scenario we're laying out everything we're describing is totally impossible. So I guess I could imagine that eventually they could literally transposed consciousness. Like they know how to define consciousness. They found it physically. It's a physical thing and then they move it.

But that's wild to conceptualize too. Yeah, I know. I mean, right. I mean, yeah, that's, yes, that's exactly what we've been talking about. But I think, but that's what like, you know, that's, there's been a lot of, a lot of futurologists, a lot of sci-fi, a lot of stuff that deals with this exact concept. I mean, Black Mirror, all the episodes we were talking about,

I mean, that's what, that's what's happening. I know it's completely impossible right now, but there's just a lot of people who have, you know, positive, like, what if one day we figure out how to do that with consciousness? How's that going to look? And all these scenarios we've been talking about are all, they're all different versions of that. I mean, I don't know. I feel like there's anything, like, just, and I know this has been pointed out a million fucking times, but if you just like, dude, what? what was it? 150 years ago,

like the steam engine was that new hotness? You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, versus this fucking thing and the shit, and the shit we're doing right now, like, dog,

150 more years, it might be the fucking meatbag matrix out here. I don't know. I mean, I don't see why it wouldn't. But I'm saying, I could totally know why I wouldn't. What's that?

It's like a something factor or something, where it talks about how quickly processors double in speed, but it's... Yeah. I can't remember the name of it, but I know what you're talking about. Yeah, we're in exponential growth in technology. I just read recently that we've actually started to hit the end of that. That unless a breakthrough happens soon, we have basically ground to a halt. So, number one, we might not be there.

We might come up with new technology. They're trying to figure out how to communicate across space time right now, which is wild. But, so I want to say that. I want to say, too. Corey, if you want to be a ripped Jamaican. Dude, just lose like 20 more pounds and start acting like Chet Hanks. You're like very close to the same avatar, right? You could just be your rip Jamaican, dude.

Like, it's your world. The other thing I wanted to say, though, was I hadn't eaten in a few days much. The cheesecake factoredi. Bwant-Bah. I haven't eaten much in the last few days because I've been sick. And I'm a little delirious. And we're talking about all this weird shit. And for some reason, y'all are blinking.

like the whole episode just never happened to me. Y'all are just blinking in and out. So a part of me thinks I have died and been uploaded and all this is in my fucking. And this is it. Corey's blinking on my end too. Yeah, you are blinking on my end. But because of the way this thing works, it'll be fine for everybody watching.

But yeah, it's been a trippy. That's what they would tell me. A trippy deal. If I was uploading in the cloud, that's what they would say. What would you? They would say very,

very normal, you know, oh, it's fine. Well, so we were joking about. the rip Jamaican thing, of course, but I think all this leads to another question, which is, if you couldn't be doing the thing that you're doing right now, which is we're all living our dream, in some way or another, we're all living our dream. But if you couldn't be and you

had to pick another thing to be, what would that thing be? Like, you can't choose anything in the entertainment business. Like, it's not this. Didn't mean you, either when Drew wasn't here on POA or something, didn't we talk about this? Didn't you ask me this? It's okay either way. Maybe, but I don't remember what I said. Maybe we was just drunk and you asked me this question. It's, that's, I think we're in Europe and we were talking about it. I think maybe you're right. Is it a situation where like, my answer is not, is very raven, I think. It's not surprising at all.

Is it a professor, right? Yes, it almost, it almost happened. I would have, I would have gone into academia. I, I fucking crushed so hard in school and academia and all that shit that I would have just stayed in that and been a fucking, even more pretentious head up my ass, uh, academic type. and I think I would have hit at it too. But yeah, it probably that. Not even probably that. It would be that.

I have a slight question. Is it a situation where like I'm definitely me. I'm my same personality? Yeah. Because the reason I asked is like I truly enjoyed being a criminal defense lawyer as far as the identity. The problem that I had with it is there's no way to do that job that I could figure out. And not either, A, have the biggest case load you've ever. had in your life and it just makes you want to die, but still be able to pay your bills and or be,

you know, it weighed on me the fact that people's lives were in my hands. Like, if I could be a pretend lawyer, it would be pretend lawyer. Like pretend lawyer is the perfect job for me, but real lawyer where people actually go to jail, made me want to kill myself. So, all right, so since I'm me and I know that that won't work, I've tried it, it won't work. It's boring, but, you know, Trey's answer is the perfect answer for people with brains like ours. You get to be creative. You get to have security. You get to be around young people who, you know, are interested in the things that you're interested in. I think that I would probably try to teach law, try to teach law, but I may teach something, you know, a little bit more creative, whether it be comedy somehow or literature. Yeah, I was actually

going to say, I've even had the thought that, you know, disall evaporates and goes away, try to get like a theater professor or whatever type deal at a small like i remember they do to tennessee tech shout out uh mark crater he hit real hard for me i think he's still there uh but like doing something like that like even still in this in this scenario that we're currently living in like eventually right just like dries up doing something like that drew i got a question for you philosophical question uh would before we do philosophical shout out to bobby bobby's thinking about teaching at unc speaking of he's very very He's very close to accepting a job at UNC teaching writing.

Sorry, go ahead. Would you pork some of them for A's if they wanted it? Well, again, this is me now. Yes. I'm married. Yeah, I know. Yeah. If you weren't married, say, would you, you know,

okay, the obligatory, the power dynamic makes it unfair. How can anyone consent with a power dynamic? Fuck! Yes, I would, dog. Are you shitting me? Only grad students. Only grad students. Of course. Because number one, and this is sincere. They got to be able to rent a condo.

This isn't even like a moral thing where I'm better than everybody. I can't fucking stay in college students. They're so goddamn. They don't have. I wouldn't want to be around them. But grad students, fuck. Yeah, dude. Hell, I'd do it for giving them a B.

You know, the fucking A. Yeah, I'm in. Yeah, but they would be demanding the A of you is the thing. Right. That's how that's how worse. You're trying to. You're trying to lowball them by giving them a B. You're like, best I can do is B.

That's all I can give you. We'll see. Now bend over. We'll see. I think I would work with especially special needs kids in like a youth center, like coaching special Olympics type stuff or be a park ranger. I think those are the two things that I would like, that could like get me out of bed with the same enthusiasm that being an entertainer gets me out of bed.

You know what I'm saying? Like, be the dude down at the line. Yeah. I like me. I'm just, I think that I would be really good at like, at like, um, well, I'm, I say teaching kids, but like, I don't really want to like teach anything other than sport. You want to be real honest about why you thought of this?

I, well, so, yes, me and my wife are having a child. And I need everyone. to know that this was not my hope, but we were facing a, Amber has some things wrong with her, my sperm don't hit, we are both older, we were facing a more statistical probability that our child would have special needs. And I said, and that's true, you'd be great at that. You'd be, you would be the best special needs. And I had, and I had already thought about that because genuinely, in my mind, I was like, okay, there has to be special needs. needs kids that's never going away and there has to be there for parents of special needs kids.

And I was like, if anyone was going to do it, if there's a God and he's just handing out special needs kids to parents, I do think it would be best if they came to me because number one, I could support them. Just talking about God up there. I would be a good, but that's what I was saying. I was like, I was like, I wasn't, there was a fear because I was like, I know this will be challenges, but I had almost been like, dude, if that happens, I'm going to be the best fucking special needs. parents parent ever you know what i mean like i'm gonna rule it this my kid's gonna beat the shit out of everybody at the at the special needs triathlon i don't know that it's about that for them is it or i mean no but i'm just saying like i could healthy competition joe they just need to know how to have fun okay you don't need to put the killer instinct in them or nothing that's true that's

true but i just don't you let him tell you how to raise your son yeah but i think i would be good at it like i think i have a child like presence i could be patient with you them. That would be really fun for me. Like I, I haven't agreed with you more in the history of our relationship. Or, or like I said, be a park ranger because I'm really into that. Like, I think about that sometimes.

Well, our park. There's no bears. No, I just like, I've come to really. These kids, baby. I really respect park rangers. And let me tell you why. They're the firemen of the cops. You know what I mean? They,

they are cops that you never hear of a Park Ranger beating the shit out of a black guy for no reason. You know what I mean? Very few of them, I think, have the legal right to arrest people. Oh, they can arrest you. Maybe federal ones. Here's how I know they can arrest you because it's been a big now. Now, if you get pulled over in the park, like I remember when we were kids, our parents

would be like, listen, first off, don't drive drunk ever. But if you're going to drive drunk, don't drive drunk in the park because when you get arrested in the park, you have to go to Rome to court because it's a federal thing or whatever. So like they can now it's them that does it. They don't have to call. No, no, no. They, they, they rest you. Here's, here's what I think, though, is that they, though, they're not looking to get people in trouble. If someone's doing some crazy shit in the park, they'll step in, but they're not like cops hiding behind trees trying to get people in trouble. Like, they're there like, hey, call us if you're trying to save the wolves. Yeah, call us if your kid gets

lost in the park and we will help you. You know what I mean? Like, they seem like really good dudes in the park that I'm in like it's you know civil war history like I think I was like if I wasn't doing this I could totally patrol the park all day and feel satisfaction with that and give tours and like you know I think I could be happy with that um that's my dad's answer this I hate to do this y'all but uh katyd just text me and Leslie Jordan died and I oh man in a car crash evidently in Hollywood he was only 67 yeah from Chattanooga dude he was was from Chattanooga and I heard he had the biggest dick that you have ever seen in your life. I'm serious.

What a legacy. I'm sure he would appreciate that as a legacy and I'm not kidding. No, I know. I know. I bet that would have him. Yeah. No, my boss, my boss used to. Four foot 11 man.

A tripod. With a hammer. A tripod he was. My boss. Go see lyric, dude. So he's from Chattanooga and he used to do a lot of plays in Chattanooga. Like even after he'd been successful, he would come back and like do stuff at UTC. things. And my boss was the big flower man. And so they, he would have him like, they would have

catering and they would have people make flower arrangements and stuff. And like apparently, you know, Leslie Jordan fucked them all. You know what I mean? He just fucked and sucked all of them. And he had like a 12 inch dick. So rest in peace, truly one of the funniest, just naturally funniest dudes. Like his Instagram is such, it was such a delight because like he was just being himself. And he was so delightful and funny. And he was one of my mom's favorite because she, she loved Will and Grace, surprisingly. And he could span generations of humor. Like he, like the whole, you can't be funny anymore that never even remotely affected him because he, he became a meme immediately. As soon as he got on Instagram, like, like day four, he had

what do you do and screw and it was a sound and everybody like he was just that fucking deeply talented. I have a running bit. Corey knows about it. I doubt Tray does because he's not on the internet where I write rest in peace,

obituaries, as if they're my best friends. I've never felt more pressure. I've never felt more pressure than this one, though. It is the best thing you do, in my opinion. And my favorite thing is... That hurts and feels good at the same time.

No, I mean, it's really good. Like, they're all really, really good. And my favorite thing is checking the comments to see our insane, some of our insane fans who still do not understand. I know you that don't know that you're doing a bit.

People know it's a joke and they're like, this isn't funny. You shouldn't joke about people dying. And I'm like, this is my best friend and I'll joke about him dying if I fucking want to. We got syphilis together. And then they blocked me. Oh, man.

See, if we had the consciousness thing, Leslie Jordan could already got in it. I don't know. Well, yeah, I guess he could have chosen to beforehand. But he was 67. He might have got. it a couple more years before uploading himself because again it says after a crash so like he

wasn't sick cancer or nothing like that like he i think he got in a car crash and and died so he wouldn't you know had the plan to upload yeah that don't hit um super don't help so it's a little bit early but i don't know how else to transition so we'll take a quick break yeah let's take a break rest of peace lastly jordan i had one thing i wanted to talk you all about and also i saved it till the end We used to, when Game of Thrones was there, and we would talk about Game of Thrones pretty much every week at the end of the episode so people could turn it off if they didn't want spoilers and stuff.

Well, I wanted to do a similar thing just for this week because House of the Dragon just went off. But I don't know if Drew's even been watching it. Have you been watching it, Drew? No, I turned it on and hated it and was like, thank God. I genuinely was relieved that I don't have to spend 10 years trying to keep up with those fucking names. Oh, so you don't care if we talk about it.

it. No. Okay. As a matter of fact, is that what y'all are about to do for 15 minutes? Yeah, you can leave. Well, I was going to compare it to Game of Thrones and shit, but that's okay. That's all right. That's okay.

Well, I'll hang around for five more minutes. Hang around and make sure that your shit uploads before you leave. How much did you watch, you watched like the first episode and you're like, no, fuck this? Because I feel like a whole lot of people, me included, people were not really all that excited about House of the Dragon because of how Game of Thrones ended. didn't really have the type of hype you would expect. I didn't even realize it was coming on until it was like already on.

And I feel like a lot of people sat down to watch it being like, I bet this ain't going to hit. But then we're like, well, goddamn, this hits. And then it stuck around. So you sat down and had the opposite experience. Well, this is like, this gets into an interesting thing about how, like a philosophy of life and your time.

I sat down 20 minutes in. I was like, this is fucking dumb. All the things came into my head, what you said, like how Game of Thrones ended, et cetera, et cetera. But I have watched enough TV and know how television works to know that pilots are extremely difficult. That's not how television works.

But there was this part of me that was separate from the question over whether or not I thought Game of Thrones would be good. I mean, House of Dragon would be good. There was this separate thing in my head going, I'm glad it's not good. I'm going to tell myself it's not good. Unless it gets a lot of hype and people talk about how it's incredible, I'm never coming back to this because Game of Thrones and Lost are two television shows in which I was so in, I couldn't quit. It was like being an abusive relationship, though, because both of them got shitty. Oh, and also Vikings.

That's happened to me three times where the first so many seasons were great, and then I hated them, but I couldn't quit. I just didn't want to do that unless it was truly worth it. So I decided to just kind of give it time. You may convince me by the end of this segment, but for the most part, the Internet seems like 50-50 on it, so I'm good. So here's where I'm at. That's how your algorithm is. how I know that Twitter algorithms are very real because where I'm sitting, it doesn't seem

50-50. But again, that's because I do a House of the Dragon podcast, which by the way, you can get on the putting on air's feed. It's called Little House of the Dragon. So my, you know, my shit is nothing but positive stuff. And I will say this, I went into it going, all right, the Game of Thrones ended shitty. So I'm not really expecting much, right? But then I thought, well, Game of Thrones was great when it had George Martin's source material and this show is going to have George Martin, George R. Martin's source material. So I went into it with not high expectations and the first episode was a little slow. And I was like, okay, I mean, it was good. I'm in.

And then I keep watching it. And then I saw a bunch of people talking about, oh, this season is better than Game of Thrones first season. And I wasn't in because Game of Thrones. All right, hear me out. Game of Thrones first. That's exactly what I was going to go ahead, but that's exactly what I was going to get to. Because me and Katie are also rewatching Game of Thrones again. And we're currently in season three.

Dog, it's my favorite. House of Dragon hits real hard. But I think all these people talking about how it's even better in Game of Thrones are out of their goddamn mind. I don't think it fucking touches. Well, that's early season Game of Thrones. Let me go through this. I don't like you can see it in a dream, dog. Yeah, but it can get there and it does it for me.

It just ain't near as good as Game of Thrones. I think these people are fucking high talking like that. But okay. I was with you exactly, and I'm still kind of with you, but I was exactly how you felt until episode seven of House of the Dragon. And I'll try to do this without spoiling during case we want to watch it. But episode seven was the switcheroo at the end on the boat. You know what I mean?

And I was like, okay, fuck, they got me here. And maybe it is. And then me and my sister brought up a great point because a bunch of people were saying, know it's better, it's better. And I was like, man, it's like, maybe it's just because Robert Barathean is my favorite character and that's the only season I get him in, but that's my favorite fucking season. And Kirby made a great point. She's like, it's really easy for people to say this about House of the Dragon when you look

at what the budget they had for their first season and what Game of Thrones had for their first season. Like, of course, it seems better and it seems more because they've literally got fucking the budget for 900. I agree. I don't think it's as good. I think people are just remembering that Game of Thrones went downhill. They have a sour memory of Game of Thrones overall because of how it ended.

Again, me and Katie are watching both simultaneously. Me too. I don't think it's close. And I could tell you one of the reasons I don't think it's close that I think maybe it's just a me thing, that I think other people see as a feature and not a bug. But it don't hit for me is that House of the Dragons. is not, and it's only the first season, it can expand further, but even comparing season one family, even comparing season one to season one only, one of the things that hit the hardest about

Game of Thrones for me was the expansive ass world spanning story. You literally check in on different continents in every episode, and there's a huge ensemble of characters, you know, all across the fucking world that the show takes place in, and they're all, they all have got you wrapped up in them at the same time. And House of the Dragon, it's just way more focused on just this one, these two families really, and they're, you know, they're dispute over the throne. And I guess maybe that hits harder for some people, but it, it don't for me. I'm like, I, I want that from a Westeros show personally. And also like, dude, there ain't no, I'm not saying there's, there's characters that hit, but like, I don't know. There's no, there ain't no bronze.

Like, I'm talking about like the small, the smaller characters. that smash real hard. Right. Brun and Jora and Gendry and, you know, I mean, you know, you name it. Like, I just don't think House the Dragon has all that. I think it's fucking good. I think it's really good. But I just don't, I just can't believe that so many people are saying that because I don't see that at all.

Let's do the opposite. Let's do the opposite. If Game of Thrones never existed and this was the first one, do you think it would be received better? Well, I mean, it's been received pretty great, hasn't it? I know that. I know that. They do love it, but they still are like you, and they have no choice but to compare it to Game of Thrones.

I wouldn't be saying none of this if I didn't see so many people on the internet saying that, oh, this is, this is even better than God. I've seen that a lot. And you brought it up before I even brought it up, that people are saying that. That's the only reason I'm saying this. But it's not, my point is, is it's not, I just think people are wrong. It's still not, regardless of the, the, criticism and the fanfare, it's still not as cultural

of phenomenon as Game of Thrones was. And I'm asking if this came first, do you think that it would be? Like, do you think that would have been as popular? Right. Now, with this budget, if this came first, they wouldn't have been able to do all this drag is this budget. So it's kind of wild to even. But like, again, episode, it took me to,

it took me to episode. By all. Let this. My thing was a drug attack for the record. Let the same. It took me to episode seven. It took me to episode seven. It took me to episode seven for me to start agreeing with people that this might be as good as season one. And because it took me to episode seven, I was like, well, then it can't be true.

You know what I'm saying? Like if it took me more than halfway through the season. But again, I fucking love it. I think it's awesome. But you're right. There's no, there's no Circe. Like there's no, there's, there's none of that shit. Otto is the closest you get.

Yeah, I just think there's a larger, more expansive cast of super interesting characters. There's way more of them. The stories are just more intricate and expansive and there's more of them and they're intertwined and yada yada and all that. I think it's just, and again, it was all, that was all source material shit. Right. But it's also wild. Like, I didn't want to watch, I did not want to rewatch Game of Thrones. It was Katie's idea.

and I was like, oh, you don't like rewatching stuff? No, I mean, I do now. This is the second time we've rewatched it. We already rewatched it. We rewatched season one through seven in the lead up to season eight coming out. And season eight came out and it was a fucking train wreck. And then I was like, she wanted to rewatch it. And I was like, I don't even want to fucking rewit knowing how it all ends, everything.

And we've already rewatched it once. Like, I'm good. But she taught me into it. And then I'll be goddamn. And then I'm going to go through that exact. even though I know already now how it goes. I know I'm about to go through that exact same emotional journey. Because these early seasons, dude, they are fire.

And I'm just saying like these people, I just feel like all these people that are saying House of the Dragon is even better than Game of Thrones was now. I just feel like most of them are not accurately. I just feel like it disrespects what Game of Thrones was and how hard it hit at that time. because I just, again, for me, House the Dragon hits real hard, and for me, it still is not even close, in my opinion, in terms of which one is better.

But, I mean, you know, it could get there. I'm real pumped about to see, well, I was about to say, and all that, but. Which, by the way, it's not, you know, it's not coming out in 2024. Yeah, but. So here's the thing, going back to what you were saying,

we do know, we find out at the end of the season that, like, that we're going to Winterfell next, next, next season. You know what I mean? Can't wait. What I'm trying to put my brain into the place of is going like, well, they knew that they were going to get a second season. So essentially, this whole season has just been one long pilot and now we are going to get

to all the other worlds and be explored. You know what I mean? Like we really needed to understand why the dance of the dragon started and that was really focused on this one family. And now it's about to go down. And my sister, she said, the same thing. Like, yeah, I thought we really liked this season.

And we were sitting there yesterday. I watched it with her. After the finale, my sister goes, all this so fucking brand can be on the throne. I was like, I know it's fuck. Like, when you know, it sucks. And I almost thought that, like, I wouldn't even be into this because prequels are so hard to do because as someone, you know everything that's going to happen. You know, you're like, well, it can't. Something like, this can't happen because this did happen.

But then I thought I was like, well, that's the same ring true in Rogue One. And that's like my second favorite Star Wars movie. So you can do it right. I also don't know if this played this way for you. But I've been reminded rewatching early Game of Thrones how it was for me when I first watched it. And I just thought it was so cool. Like one of the cooler aspects of that whole story and world. And again, it's from the books.

It's in the books too that I feel like people don't talk about as much. Like, how do I want to put this? So first of all, I watched the first season of Game of Thrones before I read the books. First season hit so hard for me, I then went and read all the books in between season one and season two. So by the time season two started, I had, you know, I read the books after that. But in the first season, I hadn't read them. And I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I mean, I did, but you know what I mean?

I was like, what the hell is going on here? And I remember it's like, I thought it's like a high fantasy show, you know, like Game of Thrones type. Or, I mean, I'm sorry, like Lord of the Rings type shit. So I was like, and it starts with White Walker type creatures in the woods and all this stuff. It's the very first scene you see. And so I thought, you know, it'll be that. Wizards, elves, spells, all that shit. And then I sort of realized, I was like, wait, this is kind of like,

way more grounded. It's sort of just like regular people, but put into that. A fictitional world. It's more like a, yeah, a fictitious medieval world. Yeah. You know, like, then it is like that. And that's real cool. Okay, I'm on board for that.

But then gradually, and again, this is part of the story, but they don't never just point at it directly. But like the red comet flies overhead, Danny's dragons wake up and magic like returns to the world gradually. It's like a thing where like magic used to exist, but it has long since died. So it is like that, but also isn't. And it's in this transitory period and all this shit. And it's just, I don't know, I just think it's fucking rad. It's just, it's awesome. Dude, it's awesome.

It's the shit. But, like, I think that when you're rewatching the show, it is impossible having, you know, known what happens in the finale. It's impossible to get re-hard for the White Walkers because you know that, like, man, that ends up not even being shit. And, like, it is cool. Like, I've rewatched it a bunch just because it's one of my night night shows. But, like, every now and then there's, like, specific episodes. that I will like, tonight I'm going to watch the Battle of the Bastards just as a standalone, you know, movie because that episode really hits for me. Yeah.

But man, like any time the White Walkers get brought up, you go, man, they end up, it ain't even a thing. I saw some people speculating. It's just fan speculating. That Brian was the Night King? Well, no, you know that, so John Snow is getting a spinoff series too? Yes, I heard that. I saw people speculating. They were like, maybe his spin-off series.

is going to be, they're going to sort of recon the long night. Meaning like that wasn't the end of it. Like the Night King was just some prince or something, whatever, that they're still out there and the long night is still coming and we're going to get a whole series starring John Snow. That was the long night, right. But again, it's just people just fucking bullshit on the internet.

Well, I mean, but that would be. When I read that, I was like, yeah, that would hit for me. It would be easy to hope they do that. I mean, it's not, it's not an impossible feat. retcon that in because like it's established in the game of thrones world that like the white walkers walk the earth but they've been asleep for a thousand years so like they could just be sleep right now again right and come back no i'm i'm with you man and like and maybe in the first episode of that brand falls off a building again and can't be kink because like it's just none of that dude and then fucking sam with the book and god damn it man i mean god damn it they It's so funny is I didn't even consider that like, like I read about the John Snow spinoff. And it didn't even enter my mind that like all those other, like, Brian is still alive and is still the king and all that shit.

And it's like they're going to have to deal with all of that somehow. Yeah. They're going to have a John Snow show and none of that hit for anybody. So how are they going to fucking, are they going to just put him back at the wall and just ignore all that shit or something? Or I don't know. It's going to be tough sledding there. I hadn't even really thought about it that way. Well, the thing is, like, you've got to think about, like, even when there does seem to be a clear claim to the throne, such as Rainer of, such as there's, even when it's like, no, this is how it should be, there's always still other people making their claim.

So we leave off with Brand just being the king. We don't see the fallout of that because it's not like everybody in the world was just like, okay, hey, they did it. They solved it. They're still going to be the stannis of the world out there. So, I mean, we could jump right back in. And it's like, no, fuck that. Why does this three-eyed motherfucker get to be the king? That ain't it.

And then, I don't know. I mean, you've still got people that were loyal to Danny. I mean, plenty of people's poor feeling to hurt. They're not going to, I don't think they'll do all. Because I think in the John Snow Spinoff, they'll probably try to just hand wave as much of that sort of shit as they can't. Because I don't think they're going to want to dive back into all that personally. Right.

But in the books, there's also, there's another Targaryian, supposedly. on a boat on his way to Westeros to do some Danny type shit because George R. Martin can't stop introducing new characters. And so... Right. Named Aragon or something. And I think his name is actually... Maybe Egon.

You know, I like every other Targaryen is named Agon. Yeah. But I can't even remember now, but he's like a secret Targaryen. But where the books are at, he's just getting started. And those books are never going to be finished. But I'm just saying, like, you know, some shit like that. I don't know anyway. The show super hits for me.

I just don't agree at all that is better than early Game of Thrones. I'm with you, but I do love it. But I'm really excited for it to come back on. I do love it. It's more fucking years from now. Fantasticical, I guess. But that was just because of the bugger. Sing us off.

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John Wayne Ganga's kind of, all that shit. It was the thing in Hollywood. They've been self-correcting recently. So now it's like, you know, obviously a black character should be played by black man, a biracial character should be played by a biracial person, right? And a gay character by a gay actor, right? And so it's gotten to the point, and people have made jokes about it and stuff where it's like, you know, if you've got a paraplegic character in a movie,

Now, you better hope somebody at Juilliard gets hit by a fucking bus because you can't just put an able-bodied person in that role because, you know, that would be offensive or whatever. I'm not making comments about none of that. I'm not making fun of none of that as a phenomenon. What I'm bringing up and pointing out is that's a huge thing in Hollywood right now and everybody knows it. and yet 75% of the cast of the Walking Dead, all the fucking Rednecks into Walking Dead. When the cameras cut, they're like, oh, that was a nice shit.

And that Tom Holland movie? You know, Cheerio doing great. Tom Holland. Yeah, the devil all the time. Lucky set or love. Every fucking, Lucky, Logan Lucky. Channing Tatis from Alabama. Yeah, but like, and also James Bond ain't.

And also, James Bond ain't. I don't give a fuck. But I'm saying, like, him in the fucking knives out. Like, it's a huge thing with inclusion and representation. but if you see a redneck in a Hollywood movie or TV show, odds are when they call fucking cut, they're getting their tea brought to them, and they're like, oh, yeah, Jesus Christ.

The Ripper of a Day. It's betraying these degenres. These degenres. But with the gay thing, and then on the Walking Dead, then they fucking, they're like, action, and that person's like, like, spit my daddy's leg out.

You know, fucking. I like possums in my pumpkin pie. Yeah. The gay thing bothers me a little bit. Two seconds. Let me defend it. With the whole, like, if you have a gay character, it's got to be played by a gay person. It's almost stereotypical that everyone in Hollywood is gay.

So I feel like, because there's been gay dudes playing straight characters forever. And I don't want to be one of those men's rights. What about us motherfuckers? But, like, with the black shit, I totally get it because genuinely, they constantly are casting people like Anthony Hopkins when a black actors should play it. But with the gay thing, there's not going to be a shortage of gay actors that end up playing straight roles that no one gives a fuck about because it's like, look, you look like this guy and that guy was straight and you can fucking act it. I just, because there's so many gay working actors, that one to me has always seemed like, I think we should

like kind of come to terms on this one. And I'm willing to be wrong. I'm just saying so many gay dudes have played straight guys and we're all cool with that. And so every now and then it stands to reason that there's going to be a straight actor who just really fits the role of a gay character such as Sean Penn with Harvey Milk. He looks just fucking

like the motherfucker. So with that one, I kind of feel like we need to go, all right, look, this one is what it is. But then, I know I sound like a dick here, but do you understand what I'm saying? I don't think you sound like a dick at all. I don't think. I don't really honestly, me personally, I'm

straight white man, but I don't really give that much of a fuck about if the redneck part, I don't care either. I just think that's funny. It is funny. They don't give a fuck about us. I think that's the only category where like no one is making that argument. No. No one cares.

It's like, well, should we get some real rednecks? And they're all like, no, God no. Like, fucking, you realize what's going to happen? If we had a bunch of fucking rednecks running around this set, no, we need to fake that. Yeah, right. But everybody else, you better make it fucking accurate. You can't have somebody playing something. They're not unless it's fucking.

fucking white trash hillbilly shit. And then it's like, get somebody who's classically trained in Shakespeare fucking bring them over here and have them do it. And it's just, it's funny to me. Also, not for nothing. And again, not to be woe as me. Like, I'm a fucking, at the end of the day, I'm a straight white man first. But like, allegedly.

Heard that. Heard that. Allegedly. But at the end of the day, you're also never going to see a redneck portrayed in any light other than being the dumbest motherfucker in the room most of the time. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And like I understood, like when 9-11...

And for a very long time, it was like that with gay, like every gay character was like, hey! Yes, yes, yes, yes. And also after 9-11, it was like that with Islamic characters. Ever, like, you would hear actors tell these horror stories of like, I had to work, but like every audition I was getting was to play a fucking terrorist. And like that sucks. And again, I'm not compared to. Honestly, that's happened with most groups in Hollywood.

It has, but it continues to happen with rednecks. But no one gives up. fuck about that is my point is like when it started happening Islamic people we were like oh that's clearly happening and that is fucked up but as much as I want to go listen man can't you have a redneck be smart and they're like so oh fuck no also on that now I used to have a bit like about this like at certain points over the history like these people these groups of people they stood up for themselves and they were like fucking that ain't cool you shouldn't be like great and I agree with them and I agree with them too but it's like but that has never happened for rednecks and I feel like

part of it is because rednecks as a people are just like, well, I'll give a fuck. I ain't trying to be no queer actor anyway. Do you hear that they were talking shit about you? Who's talking shit about me? Everybody, well, tell everybody. They can kiss my ass with it.

I'll give a fuck. Because, like, me and you are in this industry and I don't really care. Right. Like when Daniel Craig got cast as that dude, I remember a lot of, you know, people that we know, certain people were like, can you believe they got this guy? I go, yeah, he's James Bond. But he's fucking James Bond.

Like, of course they have him. And he basically plays detective foghorn, leghorn, and knives out, but I love it. I do too. That's what I'm saying. He doesn't offend me. But a lot of, a lot of times

those actors to get cast in those roles. I'm sorry. Even if the actor super hits me, I'll be watching it, and I'm like, I can't hardly watch this shit. Go watch Varsity Blues.

Oh, I know, dude, I know. I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. It's rough. Yeah. It's like there's plenty of

great southern actors that could have done this shit. Right. But you, I mean. I always want to, If I, like, get more famous, I want to do a sketch idea where it's like, and I've told you about it before, but it's a sketch for like, I'm playing myself. And, you know, I had a fucking rough up bringing. My mom is on pills, all that shit.

My daddy's dead down and everything. And so it's like, the idea of the sketch is Hollywood decides they want to make a tearjerker Oscar Bight movie about my childhood. Like Hillbilly elegy, right? But my childhood. And so they cast some big name Hollywood actor. who isn't Southern, but he's like A-list or whatever, to play me in the movie. And I'm all excited about it and stuff, and they invite me on the set, and I'm there to watch it and everything.

And he comes out for it. And I talk to him, and he's cool and all this stuff. And then they go over there, and he comes out, and they call action. He's just like, what? What? What? Love, me? Just like, and one of his teeth is in his nose.

Yeah, right. And then they cut, and I'm just standing there like, what the fuck? But everybody, they got tears in their eyes and stuff. They're just throwing their Oscars on the stage. Throwing roses at him and shit. It's like, you sound just like him. Yeah. Are you guys hearing this?

Like simple jack. Looking at me like, it must be like looking in a mirror. Yeah, right. Watching this guy. He's just like you. Yeah. And I fudge-d-d-d-d-d-r-d-d-hurt-d-d-old. I want people to know.

I'm smart, but I'm not smart, but I am smart. You've just got hay in your teeth. Yeah, right. Yeah. And because it just, I don't know. It be like that. It be like that. It do be like that.

It do be like that. It's like they don't, only we know that Forrest Gump is actually stoop. You know what I'm saying? No, I got a bit about that. You do, don't you? Yeah. It's like, I bet I'm talking about people. Look at this normal Alabama.

People in California is like, I bet you in 1994 there were a bunch of people in California that genuinely did not realize Forrest Gump was mentally handicapped. Because they couldn't tell. Right. They were telling their friends like, oh, it's this amazing film about a completely typical Alabama man. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.