wellRED podcast - #322 - Are People Getting Dumber?

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

This week the boys talked about whether or not we are getting dumber as a species! We also talked a bit about southern accents in movies and the new Tik Tok trend of people from other countries trying... the American accent!   Heading to Asheville and Knoxville May 20-21…. Go to TraeCrowder.com for tickets!   Check out all the shows in the Skewniverse: Puttin’ On Airs, Gravy Baby, Weekly Skeews   For bonus Trae go to patreon.com/TraeCrowder   For Bonus Corey go to PartTimeFunnyMan.com   watch Drew’s mini special Tennessee’s A Drag on his YouTube channel! 

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Do you know how much you spend on takeout or delivery, getting a paid chauffeur for your chicken low mane? Because that's a thing that we do in this society. Do you know how much you spend on that? It's probably more than you think. But now there's an app designed to help you manage your money better, and it's called Rocket Money. Rocket Money is a personal finance app
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Starting point is 00:03:09 They're the damn. God damn. Should we just start over? What was that? Sure. You want to keep going? That was a fucking nightmare. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 All right. All right. Do it again. Yeah. Well, here we are digitally. We're here. Well, red. Still.
Starting point is 00:03:24 still flying independently for now, but we'll have some changes coming up soon, but for now we're just going to kick it and talk shit. But first I want to let you all know that next weekend, May 20th and 21st, we're going to be in Knoxville, Tennessee, and then Asheville, North Carolina. And you can go to traycrouter.com,
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Starting point is 00:04:09 I just now fucking realize that I have a golf tournament the 22nd and there's no way that we're going to win. Like, I just, like, I fucking, they said it. And I was like, yeah, I got shows the two days before that I'll be primed. I'll be ready to go. And like, I'm going to be a fucking. So what does that mean? What time do you start? What time you got to leave?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah, what I'm about saying? You're going to have to drive home from Asheville on the night of the 21st, because if you got it starts on 22nd, you probably got to be up that morning, don't you? I have a 1 p.m. tea time. I'm in the later flight. So are you driving? When are you driving down? Getting up in the morning and getting home.
Starting point is 00:04:39 That ain't on it. Whatever time you get up, you're getting up at 9-11. I guess. Before I forget, I want to go ahead and plug Blank Magazine, which is an alternative magazine in Knoxville, has a story on us coming out. By the time this is out, it won't be quite out yet. But if you're in the Knoxville area and you read blank, the next issue will have a story on us and the Beeshoe Show.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Well, mostly on us. I got something I'm going to talk to you all about, at least for a bit and see how it goes. Was that cool? You guys? You all have any pressing subjects you wanted to get to? I had written down. I had written down here to talk about, in wine, old movies do they always call women dames and also JFK movie.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Those accents don't really hit. So nothing pressing. Oh, but I do want to get to that because I have something to spin off the JFK accent thing. But go ahead, Trey. It's not pressing either. It can be saved for another episode. So I've had a version of this bit for a very long time. Y'all are aware of it.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I'm doing a new, a book, a revised version of it now. it's all about how like people think we're getting dumber but we're not because think of just how dumb people used to be basically and like I've been thinking a lot about that because I need to expand that bit further and everything but also like for a long time I stanchly believed that and part of it was because I felt like I had to like it was something I was telling myself as a peace of mind thing so to elaborate on what I'm saying here like people even when idiocracy came out which is what like 2006 is or something. something long time ago, right? George W. Bush era, America, idioticism. I fucking love Mike Judge. I love that movie. It's so goddamn funny.
Starting point is 00:06:29 But even when it came out, and this has only gotten worse, but even when it came out, people are like, that movie's a documentary. That's not a, you know, that's not a fictionalized movie.
Starting point is 00:06:38 That movie's a straight up documentary, whatever, her, her, and I always used to annoy me because I was like, okay, but no, it isn't. Like, and like I used to say in the bit, like, you know, fucking 100 years ago, stupid people then couldn't even read.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Now our stupid people can tweet. Like, we got plenty of dumb fucks, but we're not as dumb as they used to be. Like even not, and you go back further than that, fucking people are, you know, worshipping cats and sacrificing chickens and all kinds of wild shit.
Starting point is 00:07:07 They, they was fucking dumb, right? But in recent weeks, I've started, I've heard some things like pointed out. Well, first of all, all the shit with like the book bannings and book burnings and all that critical racer and all this shit but i've heard people i've heard it like pointed out recently how like and of course we weren't
Starting point is 00:07:28 around for this i don't remember this but i have seen clips of it and shit in like the 70s on primetime network television they would air like academic or philosophical debates between like noam chomsky yeah and fucking gorva doll or whoever else like, you know, intellectuals of the time about like the fundamental, you know, state of human nature or whatever, that'd be like on ABC at 8 o'clock or, you know, shit like that. And big fucking big movies back then, of course, you know, Jaws and Star Wars were just coming along to usher in the era of the blockbuster. But, you know, like Peter Bogdanovich and Hal Ashby movies and shit like that were like, we're like hits, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:14 That was, that was the 70s. Like, that was the 70s movies. And so I had just been thinking lately, like, okay, clearly for a very long time, humans was going like this intellectually, right? It was going up from the dawn of man until apparently roughly 1978, I guess, right? It's like we were going up for a long time. But maybe recently now we're going back down and I let's into it. It's Reagan. It kind of fits that. Like, that is apparently the case, it seems.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like, at least in terms of IQ scores, which some people are like, you know, what the fuck are IQ scores? The IQ scores are bullshit or whatever. But if you're using IQ scores as a metric, only in the past couple of decades, only in the 21st century, have we started declining, right? But I still, as far as like anti-intellectualism and shit goes, I think about like the fucking the pilgrims, right? Yeah. They were Puritans. They were like fundamentalist Christians who burned women for liking numbers and shit. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:21 Like, they hated science. Like, hated it. So, I don't know. Where are we at on that? You know, like how bad is? Like, it's still, as compared to, like, the Middle Ages or whatever, we're doing pretty good. But as compared, I mean, I agree. But even in the 70s, it's like you couldn't be gay.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You couldn't hardly be black. You couldn't be fucking a woman. You know, like, so. how do you shake all that out? I mean, I desperately need for your original version of that bit to be true, which is like, no, we're not. It's just that, but back then they couldn't even read now they can tweet. Like, I need that to be true, number one, because that's what I always tell people whenever they pose this question to me.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And it's funny because it usually does get posed to me when someone brings up idiocracy. People bring up that movie a lot, like you said. Like, they'll be like, man, have you seen that lately? It's more like a documentary. And I'll basically then just like parrot your bit. But because that's also my opinion too, you know. And like, I don't, but now though, with you putting all that out there and we've talked about recently, I don't fucking know, man.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like, I still don't think, it's hard to imagine that we're getting dumber as society. I think this is my new theory is that dumb people, we keep dumb people alive now too long. You know, like used to, it was like the mean, the mean or median idiot was this because real stupid people would like stump their toe and not put anaospore, neosporin on it and then they would get infected and die. Now we just have ways to keep the stupid alive. But I don't know, man, like it right around that Bush time, when you're talking about when idiotocracy was made, like anti-intellectualism got probably more popular than it's ever been because it was just like, hey, we got a president that's a fucking cowboy, man. Like, you don't have to be one of these area dot Connecticut people, which he was. You can be a dumbass, you know. And I think that, and then with Trump, I think that that's just gotten so out of control that, like, now there are people who their brain is capable of knowing so much.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And they've decided, no, that's gay. I'm just going to not know stuff because that hits harder. Yeah, right. Yeah, I have a pretty all-encompassing theory of everything about this, actually. I think it's like a few things. First of all, I think that we're not getting that much dumber. We are testing more people for dumbness.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And in the 70s, like, you know, you got to volunteer for shit like that. And dumbasses was at least smart enough to stay their ass at home and not let it be known. That old adage about it's better to be thought a fool, you know, silently than to speak your mind. People have missed that one for sure. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I think that we're just, we have a wider net we're casting when we're doing whatever these studies are. That's my number one theory. Second issue, if we are getting dumber, is because culture helps raise you. It's not, you know, that's not just nature. It's also nurture. And Gorvidal versus Noam Chomsky probably did terrible ratings. And, you know, I hate to be me. but, and I do, I hate being me, but capitalism is going to find the most money-making thing,
Starting point is 00:12:48 and it's not a debate between Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky, it turns out. It turns out it's Tucker Carlson screaming shit, you know, about how white guys are being replaced. And so I do think that will eventually, over time, it can affect a society's overall intelligence, It's not just our knowledge, but actually how dumb we are. And so that's one possible theory that our desire for entertainment and making money has actually dumbed down conversations. And the Internet's a part of that too. And that's my third tenet of this whole theory of everything I've got. I think the Internet is actually making people dumber.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And I don't mean more ignorant. It's definitely doing that. I have no doubt about it. I actually think being on screens, getting validated with your dumb fuck opinion, saying shit like, and I saw this one today, you know that planets are fake, this is a new one, it's a new one, I think it's part of the flat earth people, reading shit like that, saying shit like that and getting validated by other dumb motherfuckers is actually making us dumber.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And that is scary. The final thing I want to say is I did always want there to be a caveat, like a post-credit scene, for idiocracy where we find out that part of what happened is the smart people fucked off as the culture or they got murdered. And that was the evolutionary explanation. It was like as the dumb people got more power, they just killed the smarties for being too smart because they hated them. I always thought that would make the movie make way more sense.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Well, that's, you know, I mean, that's what Paul Pot did. You're right. The Cambodian genocide was literally just what you just said. So maybe that's why might judge didn't want to go with it. It was like, yeah, I'd rather not have my button be inspired by the Chimer Rouge genocide. But you said two things. Hey, a lot of people know the movie, but everybody knows Popa. I'm just saying that.
Starting point is 00:14:48 By the way, that's also how we got here. Cloud and fame mean more than substance. You said two things on there. There are two things in there that are, I mean, everything you just said hit for me, but two things that are worth repeating because I think you can go deeper on them is when you were talking about, talking about, you know, well, they used to have the debates between Nome Chomsky and Gorvodale. It's like you take the two intellectuals of their time and you have them debating. As close as we get to that now is when Joe Rogan interviews someone else.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And it's, but Joe Rogan is the Gorvadel in this situation, right? Which we know he's not. And then you said capitalism. Joe Rogan is a gay political philosopher? And we can we can merge those two things because number one, what happens now that didn't used to is that we see debates between people and they are propped up as this is worthwhile listening when these two people shouldn't be fucking they it's not that they shouldn't be discussing this but it should be labeled as entertainment and speculation not the end all be all gospel on this
Starting point is 00:15:48 thing and uh number two we speaking of capitalism we live in a time where more so we put the emphasis on someone's net worth on their level of intelligence whereas that didn't used to be the thing No one thought Einstein was brilliant because he had $500 million. You know what I mean? It was just this guy's brilliant. Well, now anyone that has a shit ton of money, everyone accepts they have to be smarter than this person because they have $500 million. You know what this has made me think about for the first time, I think, is it's like on the right wing, right? And I know, like no political spectrum, no side of the political spectrum is a fucking monolith or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:27 But on the right wing, it's kind of wild, I think, that you have both. the like hardcore anti-intellectuals who won't listen to climate change climate scientist or doctors or fucking Fauci or any of that type of shit, right? No fucking coastal elites think they're better than us. Fuck university professors. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But you also have the subset of like like bro right wingers who are real into like Jordan Peterson and fucking like these other type of
Starting point is 00:16:59 I'm doing air quotes intellectuals And they like, and they point to those guys as like proof for or backup for their right wing beliefs. You know what I mean? That's kind of an odd dichotomy. It's like, I don't know. They like to have, it's like a token, it's like having a token, you know, black on the conservatives. It's like, you know what I mean? It's like token intellectuals, token nerds they can point to and be like, see, this nerd says that we're right.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So obviously we're right. You know what I mean? The rest of the nerds are fucking dipsets who can shut the fuck up. there's a guy who goes on Rogan who's known as the Daily Stoic or his page is known as the Daily Stoic I know exactly who that is I can't remember that dude's name
Starting point is 00:17:42 but he's definitely like a guy who like if Rogan hadn't validated him they would beat the shit out of him I think though that this is one of those other side of the coin that if you're going to talk about Rogan I guess in an anthropological or sociological sense you have to own, you have to like acknowledge. It's like, yeah, these bros are actually learning about Greek philosophers because they've been,
Starting point is 00:18:08 it's almost, it is actually literally very much like a fraternity where a big part of some of their views of themselves is that I'm going to be the best warrior, the best man, and the smartest dude. So that's where I lean back on the first kind of point I was making. I think we're casting a wider net. I just don't think that the dummies of the dummies in the 70s were involved in these tests. Honestly, I think they called them Mongoloids and said they had something wrong with him. And really it was like, no, that's just cousin Terry. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:41 You should have been tested him too. And now that person, you know, works at the Ford dealership and they're like, I guess we got to test this guy. He's on the school board. And that part looks scary. Yeah. Yeah. But what do you do with them? Mongoloid Mike's the mayor.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah. Drew, I don't know if you're aware. I found out very recently that that is a racial slur in addition. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, right. You thought it was just a, what's the word? Like a dumbass slur, a slur for dumbasses, like akin to the R word. Yeah, I thought it was an expired R word term like moron.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yes. That because we don't use it for that, we can say now. I do sincerely apologize. I also thought the same thing. I said it in one of my car rants, and people got pretty upset. Because if you just think about it, you can tell it's Mongol. So they used to look at, like Mongolians? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It was people looking at people with mental disabilities or whatever and saying, God damn, they're about as bad as them Mongolians or whatever, you know, saying they looked. I already apologize. Why are you trying to make me laugh now? Why are you trying to do this? But yeah. I feel like I'm on a game show. It's offensive on two fronts, evidently.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. It's offensive in an R word type of way, but also it's like discriminatory against Mongolia. Well, all I was trying to say, I didn't know that either. Well, all I was trying to say is I feel like back then they would be like, we're not testing the morons if that's better. Because obviously that's not part of this. And now the morons are on the school board. and we have to test them, which is bad. How old were you when you finally realized that that was why he was called Mongo in Blazing Saddles?
Starting point is 00:20:33 Because for me, it was like five years ago. I'm about to say, I guess when I found out that you couldn't say this word in the past like six months, I guess, you know, because I wouldn't have, no, that's not true. No, because I knew that, I knew that, like you said, dear, I thought it was an antiquated way of saying moron or nymphom poop or idiot or whatever. I didn't know about the racial part of it. So I guess I would have put the Mongo character. I would have put that together a while ago, but I didn't. It was the pilot of, uh, it was the pilot of eastbound and down for me because Kenny calls, he says Mongoloid Mike.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And I was like, Mongloid, what's that? And then I looked at him. And I was like, oh, Mongo, Mongo. That's why he's a big fucking idiot. That makes sense. That's funny because I heard it and just assumed I knew what it meant and didn't look shit up. And now I just threw it out there. I do want to say that I like how some slurs when they expire,
Starting point is 00:21:22 they're fine, but then other slurs when they expire, they're not fine. I think I get a lot. I'm not arguing with it, but that's interesting. We had a whole episode about that probably, fuck, 200 episodes ago now, but it was me trying, trying in vain to, you know, to get the R word back, but by pointing out that it's the same thing. Idiot, moron, those are all literally the exact same thing. And science moved on and said,
Starting point is 00:21:52 let the dumbasses call their dumb ass buddies, morons. We need a new word, right? Right. And everybody was fine with that. This is the first time that that hasn't happened. And I just don't get why it has to be that way. It's the hitness word, too.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's the hitness word. Right. Yeah. I think that's why it's not necessary. Like, let's just do what we've always done. But I guess that's a papaw mentality. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Not with this one because you've got the data to back it up. Like, listen, people feel about that word the way they feel about it. Therefore, let's not say that. call people that, sure. But if you go by the method that you just said, then people should not be saying idiot or moron either. I think, let me offer a different point of view. I think, and I could be wrong about this, that a lot of people have, like, who are alive, have very bad memories of being either picked on or made to go to a different classroom or whatever. What was that like? I mean, you could talk about that. Yeah, right? I was raising my
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah. Who have strong associations with that word, whereas idiot doesn't, you know. I'm fine with it. I'm wondering. I don't give it to me any. Whereas idiot doesn't get them into that negative place. And I think respect and that's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Personally, I mean, I also, you know, I'll be texting it to Corey. I'm not going to lie. But I star some of the letters. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine. You start the letters. he don't know what it means anyway.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Exactly. Retold? I didn't even hard to begin with. What are you talking about? I was also thinking about how like, as is often the case of many things because of who I am but where I'm from, which also applies to you guys, I can sort of, like, when they talk shit about, like, when they talk shit about, like, like, when they talk shit about, like, like, like coastal elites. Do you know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 00:23:55 yeah, I'm also like, yeah, most of them people don't hit. You know what I mean? But like, or like I've met having moved to the coast, I've met just some straight down the fairway fucking like coastal elite types that like,
Starting point is 00:24:08 you talk to for 30 minutes or whatever and you're like, oh, you're a fucking charlatan. Like you're actually, you're actually a dumb ass, but you think you're better and smarter than everybody from where I'm from or they're like, or like, You know eight words.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Me and you know a guy who doesn't present as super smart or nothing, but like he's one of those people, it's like still, he's like genuinely terrified of the South, right? Like that's like these people from the coast and shit, elites or not, that's nothing that drives me crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It's like, and I'm talking about white people, right? Yeah. Who are like, it's not that they're like, it's not just that they look down their nose at like the South. They're like afraid of it.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Like they think that they're black or gay, that's fine. But if you're just straight up white, if you're a white person, know a white liberal or whatever, shut the fuck up. But anyway, I like, clip it. Put it out.
Starting point is 00:25:00 But I just, so I'm saying like, I don't know. There should be a middle ground, I guess is what I'm saying, because like I can sympathize where, where, with where some of that seems to come from because, yes, I too can find these people insufferable, right? But that don't mean that they're wrong about everything. Or like, I've, you know, I've talked before about my problems with my eyes, right? how I went to like multiple different eye doctors over the course of 10 years before I found one who could actually help me. And then they fixed my problem.
Starting point is 00:25:29 All the ones before that told me, eh, I don't know. Don't have for you. Wear an eye patch. Yep. Right. And like,
Starting point is 00:25:36 so some doctors ain't worth a fuck. I mean, in my experience, in my experience, eight out of nine of them weren't worth a fuck. You know, there was only one that was worth the fuck. But like,
Starting point is 00:25:47 when the whole community of doctors says essentially, the same thing, I'm going to listen to that. Do you know what I mean? Like, am I making sense here? Like, I can see where somebody has comes from, but it's like, it's still, it's taking it way too far. Like, there should be a limit to it that these people don't enact or whatever. Speaking of doctors, we don't have to talk about this for a long time,
Starting point is 00:26:16 but I do want to mention it here because it was something I wanted to bring up. Speaking of doctors, my buddy, I won't say his name, even though I don't think he would care, but my buddy is recently realized like, hey, I'm depressed. I have depression issues and shit, and I need to get this taken care of. He went to a doctor here in the South, and this doctor, he told him like, hey, I already, you know, being diagnosed on this therapy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this fucking doctor, with their degree on the wall, told him that the best thing that he could do for his depression was to accept the Lord Jesus Christ into his heart.
Starting point is 00:26:48 that. So completely opposite. They do seem happy. God. Yeah. I mean, I guess. But like my thing was like, dude, God is the one, because this person, his brain's similar to mine in that it don't hit. You know what I mean? Like his brain a mess. His brain, one of the worst brains has ever been.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Again, everything I'm saying about him applies to me. And to me, the last person that I would accept into my life or put trust in to cure me is the motherfucker who made this brain. You know what I mean? Like he didn't get it right the first fucking time. What's he going to do now? Like, a do-over?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like, no. Give me pills. My mom don't cuss much. Speaking of people who have put their trust in the Lord. Man, words we can't say. So she don't cuss much, but one of the ones she says is one of my favorite. And you just literally described yourself in another person literally as it says, shit for brains. You're like, his brains are shit.
Starting point is 00:27:47 He's got shit for brains. That's so funny because that is one of the words that, like, I know a group, there's a group of women like around here that, like, they never curse because of the Lord, but for some reason there are acceptable. There's, yeah, there's, there's variations. They can't just, they can't, yes, and they can't just say shit. It has to be like, shit for brains. It's fine. Or the, my grandmother, shit far. Shit far.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Well, shit far. That was okay. If I just said, like, I got to go take a shit. No good. But if I said, oh, shit far. I forgot to go to Sunday school. That would be okay. And there's this like...
Starting point is 00:28:21 You can't reference poop. Yes. It's pissed off. Smack the piss out of you, but never I got pissed on or you smell like piss. There is an unspoken amount of words that Christian ladies are allowed to say, even though it's a cuss word. And that's fascinating to me. Sorry, Trey. I know you don't know anything about that.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Nope. I have no idea. I mean, my... What about when they... Still your guitar. Yeah. That was my mother. My grandmother bought me the guitar, okay?
Starting point is 00:28:53 Just to keep it straight. With Marlboro points. Mama Cat, yeah, bought me the guitar that my mother then hocked. So, but, you know, getting some facts out of order. Now, both Mama Cat and Mamma currently, they, you know, I cuss like Irish whores. They cussing. Yeah. Mama Cat could have ran a brothel of Irish whores.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And I never knew her, met her, and have only heard. three stories. And I know that. The fiber of my being could have a random raw. Ma Ma Ma Ma'a's the one that christened my high school girlfriend as bag of shit Amber. That was Mema's. What was Mema's doing?
Starting point is 00:29:31 My greatest hope is that she has learned this fact. Surely she's had to by now. I have to assume she's come up enough. Well, and that and that, for the record, I feel bad about it. I know. Not just that your grim
Starting point is 00:29:47 said it, that that's a podcast lord. Also, the story, not just her saying that, but the story. It's ancient James and bag of shit Amber. Yeah. And it's not just me, ma'am, like, it's not just her existence. Meena, I'm saying that. I've also repeatedly told the story about her and thinking that Hitler killed all the Jews, right? All of them and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And like, dude, she definitely, at this point, there is no doubt that it has gotten back to her. because like I'm from such a small town, right, that like anytime I've ever brought up people from back home and my videos are in the podcast or something, I usually will hear from somebody that, like they hear about it, right? I don't know who all's listening to me in Salina, but it don't matter, whoever it is that shit gets around.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So she's had to heard of it. And if she, here's this part. I'm just saying, and I'm not just saying this, I have felt bad about it because, you know, she was, you know, She's a sweet girl, all right?
Starting point is 00:30:46 She was. She was. The fucking, the cold-hearted bitch of my past was the college girlfriend who, that has nothing to do with a bag of shit, Amber. She's the one that, you know, I don't, there's no love loss for. But Amber was, Amber was, Amber was a sweet gal. She was. So I don't mean any harm by it. And I apologize.
Starting point is 00:31:08 What was it about her then that made Mama Cat to cry her as bag of shit? Meemaw, yeah, what, okay, what was it about her? Maybe I was good enough for you. Exactly. Meemaw talks shit about everybody. Meymah thinks lazy or Katie's a lazy bag of shit. I guarantee it. Like she, I guarantee she does.
Starting point is 00:31:28 She thinks Katie, she knows Katie don't cook, right? She probably, like, she hasn't said any of this to be, but I guarantee you. Don't she. That it's true, dude. Don't she. So Amber shouldn't take any of that personally, and that's a fact. Me Ma'a just be like that. Don't she.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Unfortunately, I don't want to get too far into your business. But don't she unfortunately have some brain issues currently going on? Maymont has dementia now. I thought you meant Katie. She can't cook. You know how her brain is. There is a reason I brought up your business. I wasn't trying to get too far.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But you will learn. This predates dementia, though. You will learn very soon how she feels about everyone. Oh, right. Yeah. And I used to have that joke about it. And I've never put it on anything. I should bring it back.
Starting point is 00:32:16 But like, that to me is the scariest thing about Alzheimer's is that as my grandmother deteriorated and became who she was in her course, she was genuinely a sweet person. And it's like, that ain't going to. The sweetness ain't in me. Like, I have learned to project the sweetness. So my point is, if she thinks that about Katie, I think some version of it will come out. And you don't have to tell us on the podcast. You've got to tell me, you got to tell me privately. Yeah, we deserve this as to people who have seen.
Starting point is 00:32:45 seen Alzheimer's firsthand. We, we, I live for this. The only thing that could be funnier is if she looked at her at some point and in front of you said, you know he never deserved you, right? Shit. That ain't going to happen. That's why I'd be so much funnier. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:33:06 God damn. Well, that put a nice button on the dumb people portion of this, uh, this podcast. Yeah. It did, so there was, well, all right, I'll save this for another time. Go ahead. I had a thing that I think can lead to your thing that we talked about before. And Corey, have you guys seen these videos kind of going viral of, they're asking people from foreign countries? And I think there's a smooth transition here because we're talking about like stupid and perception and culture and how it like shapes.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Have you seen these things going viral people from other countries doing an American accent? No. So when they ask young people to do it, Most of them now are not getting what they think of America as much from like Marvel movies, like our age and older are. And they're actually getting it from TikTok and TikTok videos. So that very strange robotic TikTok thing that that almost started out, I feel like as a parody of like, I'm on the news. That's how people talk or they do a valley like literally. I was like literally.
Starting point is 00:34:12 You mean like the automated voice on TikTok that's like, this is what happens when you took put butter on the outside of the bread. What I mean is people, what I mean is people listening to that automated voice as nine-year-olds, making their own TikTok videos as 12-year-olds. Look, I don't watch 12-year-olds do TikTok. That's not what I'm getting at. But there's like a trend now where they're like the way that newscasters have a flat American accent
Starting point is 00:34:40 and that affected the way people talk, there's now a tick what they call the tick tock accent or the tick tock affectation which is just sort of like hello now for you today i will be presenting what i do with my day and it's like when you talk to other people you don't actually speak like this what you're doing is you know that you're on camera so you think this is how you should talk and i get why that happens to people because they've seen people present that way on the news but it's strange when a 13 year old does it people are starting to actually just talk like that and that is that and that is that and that and that is that accent. Yes, with also the weird, bouncy thing like I'm doing a presentation. So apparently young people in other countries who consume us through TikTok think that that's what we sound like, or it's all the like literally, almost like the Valley thing, Valley Girls thing. The Redneck hasn't got one. I mean, I thought that's what you were. Well, me and Corey have one firsthand experience with this. I'm only realizing now how antiquated of a take of a take this was. Because it made all the sense in the world to me.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Well, Scotland. Oh, yeah. I don't know if Scotland would. Maybe Scotland would classify themselves as Europe. I just couldn't remember if it was England, Scotland, or wherever. So I just, yeah. Yeah. Anyway. I just always feel like you're, they're not, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:59 When I think of Europe, I think of fucking wooden shoes and bicycles and friendship and all this stuff. And the UK is more. Scotland's just, yeah, that's, it hits. But anyway, we're in Scotland. Well, they voted to remain in the EU. I'm just looking it up. Scotland, I know, is not down with the Brexit thing and doesn't want to be part of the UK and all that. So maybe they do consider themselves very European.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I don't know. So I apologize if I got that wrong. But anyway, yeah, tell the story. This Lassie heard us talk. Again, when this happened, I was like, of course that's what she said. That makes all the sense in the world. And it hit. And it did hit because here's what happens.
Starting point is 00:36:37 She got, we're sitting at a table in Inverness, right? Were we in Inverness? where we're at Inverness and we're talking loudly like we do and some some Lassie who looks like Mirda from Brave right
Starting point is 00:36:52 is walking by they all do of course we're in Scotland is that right she looks a lot of them do yeah and she looks just
Starting point is 00:36:59 she literally she looked like Marita and she's she's walking by we're talking loudly she stops she was oh fuck of you yanks right
Starting point is 00:37:07 and we're like we're like We are Americans, but we're from the South, so Yank is not really the preferred nob. And she's like, you're fucking Yanks. And we're like, yeah, all right, we're Yanks, whatever. And she goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, gety up, motherfucker. She did the guns, too.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, she had, yeah, she had the gun hands up. She's like, giddy up, motherfucker. My name was out. Her name was from them. I probably just docks that poor lady, because that's all actual information. I don't know if you should beat that or not. Because that's a real person, the real place.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It went from literally like Shrek talk to beauty up, motherfucker. So I don't know how old she was, but that's like a movie thing, right? She was about our age, right? I think our age. I think our age and above it's movies or rap music. Because that's what they think the American accents are.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Remember when Corey gave that lighter to a Canadian chick? And she said those cowboys gave me a lighter or whatever. America and Cowboys. It might be Southern and Cowboy, too. It might be like if you consume American movies, everyone's a Weatherman or a cowboy or a black rapper. It hit for me. I hope they continue calling us Cowboys because I felt really cool.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah, I loved it both those times, you know. Yeah. Because I'm a poser who wears cowboy boots and everything, so, you know, I don't mind it. How did their well-read fans across the Skeuniverse? It's your boy, Trey Crowder here. Just want to take an opportunity to let me. you know about a couple things that I think you might think are cool. There's some things that you know about in case you don't done to already know about them.
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Starting point is 00:40:31 Last but not last but not least, I love him like chickens like. Thank you for being here and enjoying the well-read podcast. And we'll keep doing it. If you keep listening to it, baby, see you love you by. That's like a Spanish culture. It is. That's true. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah, I was actually, it's one thing that really hits me. I went and bought some new boots recently to place in L.A. Guys, I'm sorry, but y'all may have to continue without me in a minute. I don't know what's going on. I've had a cold lately, and I can't stop. I've got problems with my throat. Anyway, Trey's nine. I'm trying to get through this.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Trey's got COVID-20. I took a COVID test and it's not, it's not COVID. I don't know what it is. Yeah, that was for 19. 20 is different. Sometimes I forget that you can also just be different sick than COVID too.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Like, I'll take a COVID test and I won't have it. And I'll be like, I guess I'm fine. And it's like, no, you just got the clue. 100% thought it was COVID.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I knew for sure until I took the test and didn't have it. I was pretty shocked. But anyway, I got a new pair of boots. I got them at a place in L.A. And like, they had one white. kid working in there who was fresh off the bus from like Arkansas right which hit for me me and him
Starting point is 00:41:41 were the only white dudes in there everybody else was Mexican you know because like of course like that country Western attire that's him we stole it's Cowboy Boats Cabboy Boats like yeah they fucking love that shit dude you also like you'll see the they invented the hats big trucks and stuff it's usually a Mexican and I'm saying like and I'm saying like they actually actually farm. That's why. Like, and I don't mean that in a good way. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah. But like, I've seen these dipshits in the South are pretending they have. Mexicans actually do have that lifestyle. Right. And that hits for me is really all I'm saying. And like, so in Los Angeles. So it's like, it's a weird kind of crossover because like Los Angeles is not south adjacent at all. But
Starting point is 00:42:25 there's a whole bunch of Mexicans. And a lot of the Mexicans have a lot of overlap with like country, country boy shit or whatever. So, like, that just, I appreciate that is really all I wanted to say about it. For sure. It's a, it, they, um, it's like who's appropriating who, you know, because like the big truck thing, like in Mexico, there's not, you can't have a big truck. It's like they've got smaller trucks by law or whatever. Maybe they won't sell there.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I'm not sure. But, uh, put a real negative spin on it. There's like this thing. It's not funny, but it's like darkly. funny. We're like, you know, Nick Fuentes is arguably the most famous proud boy. He's the current leader. And he's Latino, but he's not Mexican.
Starting point is 00:43:16 He's Hispanic. Well, right, because like Spanish is not really brown. It is a version of white, much the way Italian is. But then obviously in America, we conflate Hispanic with Mexican because that's who we're used to speaking Spanish. And they, those are people of color. again about to get super dark but like the shooter in Dallas
Starting point is 00:43:37 was a white supremacist or supposedly a fascist or white supremac I haven't read a lot about I could be wrong but with a Latino background that's not the point I wanted to make the point I wanted to make is the darkly like fucked up not funny but funny thing is so many people with a Latin
Starting point is 00:43:53 background or whatever want to be involved in the right wing fascist movement but aren't considered wide enough like yeah like it's it's not funny but it's like it's wild that they want so part to be so bad to be a part of it but like Fuentes would get the foot beat out of it by clan members yeah and there's something like romantically poetic justically funny that other guy at the top of the proud boys Enrique atario I think's his name or something like that wait that's who I was talking about Fuentes is a totally different guy fuck
Starting point is 00:44:25 but Fuentes is also a big right wing whatever dude but yeah right that's what I'm saying it's like a thing yeah yeah yeah I mean I mean, they leaned in really hard to the Hispanics for Trump thing or whatever. And like when they first started, you know, Trump first started doing it. I was like, all right, well, it's easy just to say that. Because I mean, technically there are, of course, of any demographic, you're going to have supporters in that demographic. But then I got looking into it. It was like, no, actually, he got like a pretty big chunk of the Hispanic vote.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And like, I'm thinking, you know, is it because so many of these people like in the, and again, this is painting with a broad brush. I'm very aware that every single Mexican is not a goddamn farmer. I know this, right? Or a painter or whatever. Keep going. Let's make this list. But it would be lying to say that a fair amount of them in the South aren't. Like they are.
Starting point is 00:45:16 They absolutely are. Like I used to work with a ton of Mexicans painting and in construction. And I'm wondering like, this is going to sound stupid, but like for all of them, do they really believe all this stuff? Or is it that they are a. associating with dudes on the reg who are huge that. And they're just like, I don't want to get my fucking ass kick. So like, yeah, fucking, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Because like, I can see that. Well, I was poorly trying to like connect what we were talking about of, you know, in LA, the Cowboys are Mexican. But those clothes are Spanish. And so I was basically trying to be like, well, that's actually a European thing in the first place. So it's okay to appropriate what you think is Mexican culture if it's cowboy shit. because it's actually your opinion. So I was kind of like half kidding,
Starting point is 00:46:04 but we do need to, I think, draw a line because like, dude, everybody on earth has had fascists. Every culture, every race, every creed has had fascism inside it.
Starting point is 00:46:14 So align them with Trump to me was just like, yeah, fascism fucking hits for some people. The specifically white-centric, ethno-cleensing type of fascism that the prowboys and Fuentes are into, it's darkly funny to me that, that they're,
Starting point is 00:46:31 if they won that argument, their group would turn them because their last name's Fuentes, and that's how dumb their fucking group is. They'd be like, Fentz ain't white, it's Spanish, and that's like such a stupid sentence. But it totally makes sense because,
Starting point is 00:46:43 like, a lot of the people, like, in Spain, like, their ancestors were fucking colonizers. You know what I mean? So it does,
Starting point is 00:46:50 you know, I mean, it makes sense, why Mexican speaks Spanish. Yeah, no, no, I know,
Starting point is 00:46:55 I know, but I'm saying, like, it totally makes sense. And, like, that's just, it really sucks
Starting point is 00:47:00 because that's another one of those, You know, we were talking about earlier, like, that's their token. They have their token intellectuals, but like, it hits so hard for them when someone with a Spanish name is into their same shit because they can then throw it in our face, you know, as if we're the keepers of the Spaniards or some shit. Yeah. Yeah, it's that is also funny too. If they're like, see, we've got a person of cover and it's just a white person with the last name. It's just Antonio Banderas. Well, that happened to Antonio Banderas.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Yeah. You know that, right? He got some kind of award. Yeah. No, it's not that. he was nominated for an Oscar one year and it was during the Oscars so white thing. And during that time, these articles were written and said all these nominees and one person of color. Antonio Bandaris.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And Antonio Bandaris was like, uh, so just so you guys know, I'm not actually a person of color. And then they're like, well, goddamn, that's even worse. You ain't, you're tan as fuck, dude. He's like, yeah, no, me and Mario Battelli, we're technically white. You guys are just so British and German centric. someone writing an article should definitely know that. But like, it wasn't like that long ago that I finally stopped to consider that like, oh, fuck, Spanish. Because, you know, where we're from, if you speak Spanish, you Mexican, you know.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Well, I remember when Alec Baldwin's wife caught all that shit. And now, like, for her, it was different. She was full of shit and everything. But she's like a white looking lady, right, who like, and then people started flip, you know, going off. or like she's faking all that or whatever in the whole and I was like but okay but like white people Spanish people could be white like you could be a white person from Spain and fucking sound that way like that's not they got redhead it's like it's like she ain't a goddamn Mexican this is bullshit that's literally what happened though yeah she was faking it though
Starting point is 00:48:53 yeah I know I know that turns out like she was faking it but I'm so funny why but the point is is that like hey we don't know she's faking it because they can also be like dude Brazil I found out that Brazilians could be white because of porn. I fucking clicked on a porn one. It was like Brazilian gets her cheeks clapped and I click on it. It's this fucking white lady and I was
Starting point is 00:49:13 I mean I was like I'm a staguerreys you guys have miscategorized this. This is actually a Pog, not a Brazilian. Common mistake. Yeah, she could have fit both categories for sure but I was like, wait a minute and then I started thinking about it and I was like, well yeah
Starting point is 00:49:29 duh, that's totally fine that she's She could be Brazilian, you know, whatever. But like, our, I mean, we all know that Louis C.K. is Mexican. Yeah, I'm Segura, too. Right. Yeah. Seguer is Peruvian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:42 So, but in the South, that's Mexican. Right. It's Mexican. Yeah. Circa, like, 2012-ish, I had a joke about that mine calendar thing. It was like the mine calendar ends. The world's going to end. The mine's predicted this.
Starting point is 00:50:00 and the joke was something along the lines of like, you know, if these people could predict the future, how come my calendar didn't say shit about the white man showing up and giving them all those goddamn blankets? You have a big oversight. J.C., you all remember J.C. Comedy in Knoxville, he was in the front row one time. He was probably trying to get laid because otherwise he'd have been out back
Starting point is 00:50:19 talking shit about how everybody sucks but him. But he was in the front row and I saw him kind of like look down and look to the right and go, they were Spanish, like almost under his breath, but he said it out loud. And I was like, yeah, Spanish people are fucking white. Like, you know, and I got a laugh out of it. But then I realized later, I was like, oh, like, but the audience often don't know that. That was like one of my first lessons of like, yeah, but you got to meet the audience where they're at, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You can't just assume everyone's thinking like that because they aren't. This is post-inquisition we're talking about here, correct? When they gave out the blankets or when I did that? Certainly about us. My knowledge of the Spanish Inquisition comes solely from Monty Python and Mel Brooks, and that's it. I feel like the Inquisition was somewhat concurrent with colonial Spain efforts, I think, Spanish colonialism. It was a colonial move. Yeah, it was in conjunction with the church.
Starting point is 00:51:16 The only thing I know about it is from a chapter of a Kostoevsky book that is the best short story ever in my opinion. I did not know it lasted this long. Spanish Inquisition lasted from. 1478 to 1834. So pretty much the entire colonial period for Spain, the Inquisition was going that whole time. Yeah, they're like DNA strands, both in look. And they don't work one without the other.
Starting point is 00:51:43 The Inquisition was Spanish colonialism. We're like, you know what I mean? It was like a wing of it. It was like setting up fucking churches, that was what they was doing. That's why everything out here is named Saint-East and St. That. Yes, but,
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Starting point is 00:53:27 Classy Yeah, we need to bone up on our Spanish Inquisition, I guess. Well, hey, I thought that, I thought my TikTok accent thing would get you into this JFK thing, Corey thing, court. We got derailed. Oh, yeah, you're JFK thing. I want to get into that, but also I wanted to ask, and I forgot to ask, about this TikTok trend or whatever. Because I don't think you mentioned it. Is it them, are they making fun of the American accent, or are they just doing it like we would,
Starting point is 00:53:57 do an English accent as a bit or something, which I guess we're making fun of it. So when you say this TikTok trend, so that's like a strange thing because that has like a few meanings, I think, in this story. TikTok trend can mean, currently everyone's doing this dance or making this joke on TikTok. And that is a TikTok trend.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I can't believe I'm not big over there. Yeah. Then also, I was sort of saying TikTok trend in a more academic sense where we have, it's been around long enough for, us to kind of realize, oh, kids are sort of talking like they're putting on a video and it's become the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And then what I think you're also asking me about is, is this TikTok trend, meaning the foreigners doing our accent? I don't know if that's a trend or if it's just a video that's gone viral. I'm sure it'll become a trend. Maybe it is. I don't fucking know. But the videos I saw, it was two of them. I do think they were making jokes and making fun of us.
Starting point is 00:54:56 but I also think that like there were some good lines in there. Like one of them, this girl goes, oh my God, literally, I've been a vegan, but I need meat. And so like, they were doing a bit, but I don't think that the bit was, we know how Americans really talk and now we're making a joke about how they sound on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:55:23 They think that's how we sound. Right. Yeah, fuck, I get it. it man i guess like there was a time where i thought every british person sounded like fucking mary poppins or dick van dyck so exactly you know that checks but anyways i was watching uh i'm going back and trying to like watch all the classics that for some reason i missed and i'd never seen jfk the oliver stone movie the reason mainly is because it's three and a half hours long like every time i went to do it i was like i want to watch this but i could also watch two diehards you know what i
Starting point is 00:55:55 mean, and I'm always going to watch two diehards. But I went back because, like, I'm, you know, I'm a pretty big history nerd. And I think when you transform into a dad, it makes it even more so. You're like, I got to know everything about the past and World War II and all this shit. So I'm watching JFK. It's that to become problematic. So you did the right thing. What's about to become problem?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Oh, yeah. Yes, it's it. Yes, you are correct. And I'm trying not to become problematic. But I do love, like, you know, since we've been putting on airs for every year, like, I'm even more into history than I was. So I'm watching JFK, and I didn't know this going in, but like the whole thing takes place basically in New Orleans. And because that was the dude that like investigated at Kevin Costor playing in my brain when I first, I was like, I was like, you know, I bet you
Starting point is 00:56:41 that because Kevin Costner has had a storied history of doing real bad accents. It's like, you know, rugged Robin Hood. Like he, but it never mattered because he's fucking Kevin Costner. And I will tell you that ultimately it doesn't matter in this movie either. But because of that, I was like, okay, probably everybody's just going to have a neutral accent, and it's going to be fine. But no, everybody in this movie, and there's a lot of people in this movie. You got Kevin Costner, you got Michael Rooker, you got fucking John Candy. Not Candy. He does it.
Starting point is 00:57:11 He does it. He goes big with his. His is the one that I really wanted to talk about because not only was John Candy's like super, this is what I think a Southern person talks like. But he also, his character uses like, like 1920 Chicago. He's like a jazzy. He's like a jazzy guy. Yeah, he's like, come on, Eddie. He's like doing a jazzy thing.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it's because I just got such a soft spot for John Candy. I love John Candy. I loved that. It is silly, but like I loved that. It was my favorite. He's really going for it, dude. He is.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And I love that in any movie when I see someone going for it, even if it doesn't work. I'm like, I respect your choice here. No, listen, none of it, but the only person in the movie that I was like, this accent is very believable was, of course, Laurie Metcalf, because she's like one of the most brilliant underrated actors of all time. But my point is, is that like, I thought about it for two seconds when they all started talking. And then I stopped caring. I was like, whatever, dude. Like this, because number one, this movie, all movies back, like, we still have a problem with no southern representation. but you just sort of accepted in movies back then
Starting point is 00:58:23 because back then it was like, look, we've got these stars and they're the ones that get all the movies. So if the character talks like this, Kevin Koster's going to fucking talk like this. I don't know what to tell you. That's just what's going to happen. And I didn't care and it totally didn't take me out of the performance. But it got me to thinking about like how sometimes I give a shit
Starting point is 00:58:40 and sometimes I don't. You know, like there's certain nowadays at least, like when they cast all these people in fucking J.D. Vance's book movie or whatever. I'm like, God damn it. can you not get an actual Southerner? And then I know we've talked about this a lot before, but I'm like so selective on when I give a shit and when I don't. And watching JFK, I realize I don't give shit.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And maybe it's just because it was New Orleans. And I was like, that ain't my part of the South. Do your fucking thing. But like, does that bother y'all? It is different. I mean, I'm doing a whole bit about this right now.
Starting point is 00:59:13 But having said that, I thought it was good fodder for a bit. I don't really. It ain't keeping me up at night. But it just, you know, point. Like the whole thing, the bit was inspired. We talked about it on P.O.A. one time. Then I started doing a bit about it. But how
Starting point is 00:59:27 it's like, you know, representation is super important. But every Southern character is played by a fucking classically trained Shakespearean Brits or whatever. And, uh, yeah, but dude, I'm not going to fucking, I'm not making my picket signs or nothing to take to the streets over it or anything. But I do think it's like, kind of funny. I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:45 it's insanely funny. Yeah. Uh, in the bit I say, I think it's like for insurance reasons. We're like, you know. We can't, we can't, we can't have a bunch of real ones fucking. Okay. Okay. Yeah, just like the movie.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Okay. Okay. That's hilarious. But do you know the background of the, um, the manjo movie? Why is it? Deliverance? Deliverance. DJ wants to interview me and tell me the background for something he's wanting to do, which I'm,
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yeah, he's got a project. That's why I know about this. Yeah, well, I haven't talked to him yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Well, the general thing that I want you to know that relates to this, there's like five things. By the way, it is genuinely one of the wildest stories I've ever heard from DJ. And, you know, with DJ telling me, I'm getting it through the lens of space. So, like, you know, it's certainly wild. But one of the aspects is that at some point, a lot of the crew sort of began to realize.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So they had non-professional crew. members who were a part of basically the river team. They had to shoot those scenes on the river. So they needed people who knew how to navigate the river, right? So that's not like your typical movie crew people. Well, a lot of those people apparently kind of wised up to what was going down in terms of who was being made fun of and all that. And they did have insurance problems. It's like it's so funny.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Like they fucked up enough things and sabotaged shit that they had insurance problems. And at the time, they thought we're having insurance problems because this river's so dangerous, but they sort of found that later. No, these motherfuckers are stealing from us and sabotaging shit on purpose, and it's causing us to have insurance. That's so funny. I had no idea. That's so funny.
Starting point is 01:01:36 What if one of them fuck Ned Bady's ass? Like, that'd be so hilarious. Okay, Corey. Okay, Corey. No, I want to get too into it. I don't want to ruin too much for trade. But also, the writer of the novel. was on set the whole time.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And he is apparently an insane person who isn't a hillbilly but decided after that novel got so big that he was one. And I'm not saying he tried to fuck Ned Beatty. That didn't happen. But like, he got very, like, into telling the director the best way to do stuff. And he did want a lot of things to be method, I think.
Starting point is 01:02:14 We'll leave it at that. Yeah. Oh, my. That's so funny that, like, he thought, just spitball in here. is there you why somebody could actually fuck his butt? Right. Cinema verite, I believe they call it.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Right. Okay. Yeah. Right. So do that same bit, but instead of making it, you know, Larry David spitball in here, make it that character that, oh, fuck, what's the guy's name on Blacklist? James Stader. The version of James Bader from the office.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Apparently the dude would walk around. California. Yeah. So apparently he would walk around and be like, have you considered? Like he had a personality disorder. His whole, it was like he sold his rights to his book. And then he was like, yep, I always knew this is who I was. And his whole personality changed.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And since the internet didn't exist, he could get away with that. So he, hold on. He's not a redneck hillbilly at all. And then this guy writes a book that's wildly successful about redneck hillbilly banjo boys butt fucking each other. Wonderful alliteration there. And in his mind, he was like, I'm one of them now. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Here's what I'm going to say. Let's have DJ on soon when he's ready to both tell us this and plug what he's essentially trying to do. It's talk about deliverance's place and the zeitgeist. So like, I know he's interviewing you, Trey. I had a joke where I mentioned deliverance and I had never seen it, which blew DJ's mind. But that was sort of his point. It's such an important part of the Zygos to be in a Southerner,
Starting point is 01:03:52 even though we don't give a fuck about it. We know everything. So he wants to do half that, half the history of it, because it's not really been told what all wild shit went down there. And some of the dudes who worked on it still live by DJ. DJ lives where they filmed it now. That's what brought us on. They filmed some of it in Silva, too.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yes, go on with the Ravenness. That's where he's at. DJ's like 20 miles from Silva. I reference deliverance in one of my bits right now as well. but I have seen it because my dad made sure that I saw it when I was maybe 14. Because of course he did. He's like, you got to see this boy. He should do a lot of butthole stuff at that age.
Starting point is 01:04:34 He just, you know, he wanted to make sure. Broaden my horizons. Does he do anything for you? It's fine if it does. Oh, God, damn. I need to go. Okay, well, we love you. And, hey, go to Trey Crowder.
Starting point is 01:04:49 for those tickets and also listen to me and Tray's podcast putting on airs new episodes every Friday. We just talk shit about Jared Lido at the MetGala, so if you're into that shit, listen to last week's episode. And also check me out at part-time funnyman.com bonus podcast essays,
Starting point is 01:05:05 all that good stuff, Drew. Yeah, Gravy Baby is a great podcast. You should listen to it. Hell yeah. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Attune in next week.
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