wellRED podcast - #370 - Problematic Birds w/ Joe Zimmerman!

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

Hey y’all! This week we are THRILLED to be joined by one of our good buddies, and one of the funniest fellers around, Comedian Joe Zimmerman! We talked about Joe’s new special “Cult Classic” w...hich was directed by Nate Bargatze and can be seen right now for FREE on The Nateland Youtube Channel!   Joe also came prepared to give us a lesson in Ornithology…. the world of bird-watching has been shaken up this year, y’all, and you’re gonna want to hear why!   Come see us December 14-16 in Nashville! Tickets at TraeCrowder.com   DrewMorganComedy.com for tickets to see Drew   BonusCorey.com for all of Corey’s Tom Foolery!   Get our new book Round Here and Over Yonder wherever books are sold!

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 And we thank them for sponsoring the show. Well, no, I'll just go ahead. I mean, look, I'm money dumb. Y'all know that. I've been money dumb ever, since ever, my whole life. And the modern world makes it even harder to not be money dumb, in my opinion, because used to, you, like, had to write down everything you spent or you wouldn't know nothing. But now you got apps and stuff on your phone.
Starting point is 00:00:19 It's just like you can just, it makes it easier to lose count of, well, your count, the count every month, how much you're spending. A lot of people don't even know how much they spend on a per month basis. I'm not going to lie. I can be one of those people. Like, let me ask you right now. Skewers out, whatnot, sorry, well-read people. People across the ske universe, I should say.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Do you even know how many subscriptions that you actively pay for every month or every year? Do you even know? Do you know how much you spend on takeout or delivery? Getting a paid chauffeur for your chicken low main? Because that's a thing that we do in this society. Do you know how much you spend on that? It's probably more than you think. But now there's an app designed to help you manage your money better.
Starting point is 00:00:58 And it's called Rocket. money. Rocket money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. Rocket money shows all your expenses in one place, including subscriptions you already forgot about. If you see a subscription, you don't want any more, Rocket Money will help you cancel it. Their dashboard lays out your whole financial picture, including the due dates for all your bills and the pay days. In a way that's easier for you to digest, you can even automatically create custom budgets based on your past spending.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Rocket money's 5 million members have saved a total of $500 million in canceled subscription with members saving up to $740 a year when they use all of the apps. Premium features. I used Rocket Money and realized that I had apparently been paying for two different language learning services that I just wasn't using. So I was probably like, I should know Spanish. I'll learn Spanish. And I've just been paying to learn Spanish without practice.
Starting point is 00:01:59 practicing any Spanish for, you know, pertinent two years now or something like that. Also, a fun one I'd said it before, but I had a, I got an app, lovely little app where you could, you know, put your friends' faces onto funny reaction gifts and stuff like that. So obviously I got, I got it so I could put Corey's face on those two, those two like twins from the Tim Burton Alice in Wonderland movies, you know, those weren't a little like the cue ball looking twin fellas. Yeah. So that was that in response to? What was that reply I give for just when I did something stupid. Something fat and stupid. Something both fat and stupid. But anyway, that was money well spent at first, but then I quit using it and was still paying for
Starting point is 00:02:39 it and forgotten. If it wasn't for Rocket Money, I never would have even figured it out. So shout out to them. They help. If you're money dumb like me, Rocket Money can help. So cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com slash well read today. That's rocketmoney.com slash wellr-r-ed. Rocketmoney.com slash well-read.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And we thank them for sponsoring this episode of the podcast. They're the... What's up? Well-red podcast listeners. It's you man, Uncle Daddy. First of all, very excited about this episode.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I hope you're looking forward to it. What a great conversation we're about to have with Joe Zimmerman. We recorded this show a little over a week ago. since then I've added a show in Knoxville. I just learned everyone to know about that. I have a show on Sunday, December 17th in Knoxville, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:03:35 You can go to my website, get all the details there at drew Morgancom. Knoxville, Tennessee, the hometown, coming out and see me. Loveions. They're the liberal rednecks. They like cornbread, but six.
Starting point is 00:03:50 They care way too much, but don't give a fuck. They're the They have a redneck That makes some people upset But they got three big old dicks that you can suck What's up, everybody? Here we are.
Starting point is 00:04:07 We are joined this week. We told you last week you'd be here And it held true, the illustrious of the Pride of North Carolina, Mr. Joe Zimmerman. How's it going, Joe? I'm doing well. I'm honored to be here. I just got off the flight to L.A.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And I'm happy to be with my boys. Are they tired? Hoo boy. Sorry. I may have just parted. I listened, and I listened to, randomly, I listened to the AI episode on the flight. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And so I am curious what Drew filmed that day that he couldn't be here. I'm hanging in suspense. That's the AI episode. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know if we knew,
Starting point is 00:04:47 because sometimes he'll do that. He doesn't, like, you know, he doesn't share overly. Yeah, there was a lot of suspense. I tell them stuff all the time. They just don't remember it. They said, you know, You said you were filming and couldn't make it, and they said that it was bogus of you to not be more specific.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Well, say, so we didn't know. We even bitched about it at the time that we didn't know. And now I want to know what you were filming on October 24th. October. Well, whenever that episode came out. Anyway, it's fine if he was making it up. No, I mean, I don't lie usually. You guys are longtime listeners.
Starting point is 00:05:19 You should recognize this man. He's been on the show before. Joe is actually also the very first week. I ever emceeded at a comedy club, which is at Side Splitters in Knoxville. I was like three months in or something. The little baby comic, the headliner, was this man. And I think you told me later, I don't think I knew at the time, but I think you told me later that that was also your first weekend
Starting point is 00:05:40 headlining at a club, I think. Is that right? Yeah, I mean, I don't, now I don't remember specifically what the first weekend was, but I remember that was early on for sure. Yeah. And if I told you that, I must have believed it. And I thought you were absolutely hilarious, and we've kept a touch, and also a sweetheart of a guy
Starting point is 00:05:57 we've kept in touch ever since. You've kept rocking. You've got a new special out called Cult Classic, available on the Nateland YouTube channel, right? And I told you I was going to do this before we started. I know comics can be weird about this. I watched it today, like a lot of comics,
Starting point is 00:06:10 I very rarely laugh out loud at stand-up anymore. I'm jaded. You know, best case, I'll be like, oh, that's good, oh, that's funny, that type of thing without really laughing, especially if I'm watching it, like not in the room. I'm at home on my couch watching it.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I texted them. I was crying, laughing. watching cult classic. You were killing me the whole time. This guy's one of the very best. I'm not just saying that, so y'all need to check it out. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Which, by the way, as soon as Trey
Starting point is 00:06:37 sent that text, I was in the woods walking before the show. I threw on the special. I, too, was laughing maniacally in the woods, and you said a thing that I want to bring up right now, that I have been pondering what this should be called forever or that there needs to
Starting point is 00:06:55 there's a phenomenon going on aside from mansplaining. And when you said lady riddling, I was like, God damn it. Like, only Joe Zimmerman could put words to this thing that's been in my head. And I just wanted you to know that that's beautiful and hilarious. I'm going to have to stop myself from doing too much of this, Joe, because like I also, while watching it, there were so many different bits and stuff you had that I wanted to bring up. And I was like, but obviously, I don't want to spoil it for people. I want people to watch it.
Starting point is 00:07:22 So we could talk about some of the subjects, but I'm not going to do the lines. but you said one line though where you said it wasn't a bit Corey's talking about where you were like you think you'd figured out the difference between man-splining and just a man saying a thing is whether or not you like what he said. You don't like it. It's mansplaining. Otherwise it's just a man talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Very good. Well, thank you so much. I'm honored that you watched it and liked it. And I'm even more honored, Corey, that you were in the woods. So that's exciting. But yeah, it was fun to record it. Nate Bargazzi directed it. And now it's on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's free, family-friendly. And I'm excited about it. And, yeah, that's so funny that that was your first MC week that I was headling. Like, you don't, when you're headlining early on, well, when you're headlining in general, you're not really scouting the emcees for talent. You know what I mean? You're just trying to get by. But I definitely have, I definitely not long after that Shane Gillis, M. see at a weekend. Oh, yeah. And definitely, you two are the only ones I'm aware of that have
Starting point is 00:08:31 gone on to great success. I'm sure there's been more. I just, I just didn't keep in touch with everybody. One time at a festival, Tray and I got like best of fest. We got to do like a final showcase. We've told the story of how he, this my fuck didn't even show up. He was like, I'm already back at my hotel. When they announced it, he was like, it was like, a 1 a.m. show. I didn't know I was going to be on it. I was already drunk and in bed naked. Was it in Atlanta? We've had to. McDonough, North Carolina. But anyway, they called me and I was like, I can't, I can't make, tell him I can't make it. The point, though, is it was him, Sam Talent, Dulcee Sloan, me and a guy
Starting point is 00:09:05 named Dave who quit. And I'm like, in my head always since then, I'm like, thank God for that Dave guy quitting, because if he hadn't, he'd probably be super famous and rich now, and I'd really be struggling with this whole thing. Are you sure he hasn't taken off somewhere else? He's probably like a writer, musician or something. It's like directed Bo Burnham's last special. So what I wanted to ask you about your special, correct me if I'm wrong, for me as a fan of yours, this feels like to me a little bit of a long time coming. And what I mean by that is I've known about you for a while, but it's not just like just us. You've been opening for Brian Regan. Obviously Nate Bargotsie's a fan. I've been waiting for a long time for a Joe Zimmerman special. Did you wait on purpose? I would assume you've had opportunities in the last four or five years. Is that, am I just an idiot? Am I just a assuming things. Oh, no, I put out a album in 2014 and 2018 audio, I think
Starting point is 00:10:01 with two record, you know, two pretty good record labels. Those are also great. Smiling at Wolves, right? Wolves, yeah. And that's my favorite album. Seriously, and I've told you this before. I've quoted, like, Pony Danza is the best bag of all time. Is that the one with the Andrew Jackson bit on it? Yeah, with Andrew Jackson's parrot. So funny. Amazing. Maybe, maybe said more properly, why aren't you famous? No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah, no, totally. Sorry, go ahead, though. I could tell you why I'm not famous. But, multiple reasons. But, no, I think I wanted to wait three or four, you know, at least three years after recording an album to come up with a new hour. Yeah. And then I just kind of wanted to find a good production company to, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:48 and ideally a name to do the special. and so I just kind of waited it out for a year, a year and a half. And then Nate mentioned he was doing a production company and that he was interested. So I just followed up on that. That rules. It reminds me it's so weird to compare you to this guy that I'm going to compare you to. But Kendrick Lamar has – Yeah, same thing.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I think he gets that all the time, actually. He has spoken a lot in interviews about how, like, the rap game is now content, go on the podcast. like, do all these things. He's like, people were like, is something wrong with you? And he's like, no, it's supposed to take four years to do a great record. So it's going to take me four years
Starting point is 00:11:29 to do a great fucking record. And I don't need to be on the internet fighting with people or whatever. Oh, nice. I'm happy to hear that other people feel that way. Because I just see people come out with a new special every 12 to 18 months and feel like I'm lazy.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah. Right. But I feel like it takes me two years, at least two years to write a new hour and then another year to, tour it to polish it and then somewhere in there it feels like you might be ready to record it you're doing the right thing i was about to say that well that used to be that was like the standard i feel like i mean it was louis right that basically changed all that louis made it to where
Starting point is 00:12:04 everybody felt like they had to put out the worst thing he's ever done best but yeah by a mile by a mile and he was great at it you know you could knock him for other than that but uh but yeah what do you want for christmas That's right, baby. It's that time of year. This weekend, December 14th, 15th, and 16. It's a well-read Christmas at Zanies in Nashville. Come see us, Treycrider.com for tickets.
Starting point is 00:12:30 By the way, we're not touring as much together. So even if you're not from Nashville, but you're near, this is a destination event. Well-read Christmas, a tradition unlike any other. Zanies in Nashville this weekend, December 14th, 15th, and 16th. Treycrowder.com for tickets. come see us y'all and now back to joe zemberman but yeah everybody to put out special every 12 months and every comic who had a name at the time started doing it and you know not everybody's louis man most of us can't do that uh turns out it's not just that too but then after louis did that like
Starting point is 00:13:05 netflix started signing all these big comics and they would sign them for a three special deal and be like you have to have them out in 18 months and of course a comic's going to be like yes thank you for all the money. Then they do the first special and then they're like, oh, fuck, I got to do two more. You know, so it's like, of course you're going to take the money,
Starting point is 00:13:21 but like all three of them ain't going to be good. So Corey wants to talk about birds and I do too. You got some bird news, right, Joe? We love bird. We don't break much bird news, but we do like talking about animals. May I defend myself before we move on to birds? Because I feel like we're going to get lost in the sauce
Starting point is 00:13:35 when you bring up this trip. I was filming my only fans set. Only fans is doing comedy now. I talked to them about it all week. And then that day, I was like, I'm filming and we start at three, which surprised me. I can't record today. And I just looked it up.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I didn't say what I was filming because it's all I'd been talking to them about for a fucking week. Okay. To be fair, though. I get him, I get, he did say, we're filming at three, which caught me off guard. But if somebody's filming something at 3 p.m., your head don't go to a stand-up thing. Sure. I mean, what I said was surprised me.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Didn't know it'd be that early. We thought you'd just been surprised with the whole thing. I'd also been in Atlanta that week. I don't know. I just assume you're very prolific, Drew. I thought you had a lot of things going on. You have never assumed or thought that about me. Well, I just did.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Well, on the podcast, when I listened to it and you had said you were filming, I had actually assumed it was for only fans. It does add up. And you were correct. So, yeah. You recorded a comedy special for Only fans? I recorded like they're doing features sets now. I think I did 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:14:47 They pay very well. And yeah, it's just like a push they're doing. You've got to sign up for only fans and have one for six months. Okay. But also we have a fuck ton of Southern gay fans. So I also show my butt. I'm crushing it on OnlyFans, actually.
Starting point is 00:14:59 That's exciting. Yeah, it's a little disturbing how much money I'm making. Well, it's a perfect segue because I've got a new website called Only Birds and you only show birds. And you can pay different levels to see. which birds.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I bet the rare birds. That could probably work though. You think that because, you know, as you talk about something, especially like bird people, they love to bird. They're really into birding. So, I mean, I bet there is a website like that, just, you know, just birds. Well, I'm on a website called eBird.org where you can keep track of your life list of how many birds you've seen in your career. Now, how do you learn about, you've got to learn the birds before you even go to find the birds, obviously. Like, I don't ever see a bird and go, I know that bird.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I never know any birds. Seems like a mentor has to get you into this. It's a little bit about like writing a great hour of comedy. Sure. You go do the joke and then you build on the joke. So you go see the bird and then you go look up what bird you just saw and then you remember it the next time you see it. You got a bucket list for a clucket list.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Sorry. Yes. Apologize. I'm too. Are you just wanging it? Hey, sorry. Hey. I'm two years into the game, so I'm still a baby, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I don't quite. A baby bird. I'm not even at the point where I know what birds I haven't seen yet and want to see. A bunch of them I would imagine. You don't have your known unknowns and run unknowns? I will say there's a term in birding called your nemesis bird where long-time birders are like, gosh, I just, I can't get this bird. Can't get it. Like a white whale?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yes, the white whale. And so my baby, my baby nemesis was a bald eagle because everybody I know seen a bald eagle and I just had not crossed past with a bald eagle. So finally I was in North Dakota, hit a bald eagle. I got my nemesis. Nice. My baby nemesis. Yeah, you know, it feels like, yeah, you need, maybe you need to pick her stronger nemesis.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, yeah. You're overpowered. I got past my level one nemesis. I'm ready to go to level two. The American in me was like, there ain't no stronger nemesis than a bald eagle. I mean, yeah. Two years surprised me because you had, like, there's been an animal thing, a theme, I think, throughout your career, your show at Comedy Central and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Like, I just feel like you've always been a bird guy, so that surprised me. You had bits about ravens or crows and stuff, I remember, and Andrew Jackson's parrot. You're right. He is a long time. Yeah, he does a lot of bird stuff. So how did you get into it? I thought he always had been. I think my, yeah, I think deep down I've always loved.
Starting point is 00:17:36 like birds, but it wasn't until two years ago that I started occasionally waking up at 7am and looking at birds. Not the pandemic, if I'm doing my math correct. Well, it was the end of it. It was, yeah, well, the beginning of 2021 was the pandemic. Okay. So it was right around then. Yeah, that's a good pandemic hobby to take that guy.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah, definitely. Do you think people lie on eBird.org? Yeah, do you got to prove anything? Is there a clout? You got to take a picture? You know, in that world, is there guys with clout, gals with clout? Well, there are, it shows you the leaders in each state, how many birds they've seen that year. And so you'll see the top New Yorkers.
Starting point is 00:18:14 It'll be some guy with 673 birds and some guy right behind him with 672. Nail body. And you know they're going for each other. And how do we know that one of them's not lying? Well, there's no way to know that they're not lying, but there's also no reward for them if they are lying. Other than the glory, you know. Other than the bird. That's got to be a dopamine drip.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Up there in the lights. Yeah. You want to be the bird goat. Yeah. Real names or usernames? I think it's their usernames. But then there's a photo of whatever photo they want to post. So you just see like two old guys.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, I was just say mostly old people. And are they, are these exclusively white people or it just feels like a white pursuit to me? Yeah. Watching birds. You know, it's a, well, there was the famous. birder who had the Karen incident. Oh, that's right. You're right. Yeah, you're right. Excuse me. I apologize. I was out of turn. Central Park, Christian Cooper, and he now has a show on National
Starting point is 00:19:13 Geographic. Has a bird show because of a Karen. Could you explain this to me? Because I don't know what the fuck that you're talking about. You miss this? But huge birdness, Joe. Well, first of all, that's probably a sign of how few African American burters there are, that the one African American birder immediately gets a TV show. It's probably not a ton of them. Yeah. But it is diverse. Well, at least they're trying to open up to diversity, which is one of the bird name topics for today.
Starting point is 00:19:40 But before we go into bird name diversity and opening birding up to a more diverse, what were you saying, Corey? He doesn't know the story. Oh, Corey. I don't know the Karen birding story that led to this person of color having a show. This was one of the most viral Karen incidents that I can remember. I bet you remember it, but the bird thing was just like so far down on your list. sure and oh and this is a perfect this is a perfect topic for liberals versus conservatives seeing something differently yeah i know you guys aren't interested in that sort of thing never no never talk about
Starting point is 00:20:14 but i don't know where you're going with it with it with it in this particular instance so well well basically jo's about to defend the karen the narrative was he was too close to the fucking bird he was being aggressive scared i mean just the the big story was it was the same day as George Floyd apparently that's what it says Oh wow This woman this white lady called The cops on an African American
Starting point is 00:20:43 Birder in Central Park on a morning And he was just in a The Ramble which is a bird Refuge area where there's no dogs allowed off leash Okay so this well-known birder in the area was bird watching in the ramble and there was a dog
Starting point is 00:20:59 off the leash It does sound white Yeah A well-known birder in the area was in the ramble and the dog was off the leash. Yeah. And so apparently him and the lady had an issue with the dog off the leash. And then we just heard her call to 911 where she was panicked saying, there's an African-American
Starting point is 00:21:20 man threatening me in the ramble. Yeah. Threatening my dog. My God. And basically she was. Murder was the case that she gave me. There it is. So it was her dog
Starting point is 00:21:35 Right It was her dog And he just he was like Hey you're supposed to have that dog off a leash in this part of the park And she lost it And ended up calling the cops Didn't she lie? Didn't she said he did something that people around there were like
Starting point is 00:21:48 No he didn't So he was threatening her in the dog right And that type You know just the classic move She said he was threatening her And she called panicked And anyway So everybody was like
Starting point is 00:21:59 We can't we can't keep up with this this white on black hate you know and this and it was just classic and she was basically run out of the country she went into hiding did you say she actually just a couple of months ago like just like two months ago she put out an op-ed and i don't remember which paper it was but the whole op-ed was like her saying just so everyone knows my life has been ruined yeah everything is over for me and everything and she got roasted for that too of course the whole internet was like Well, you shouldn't have been such a bitch. Maybe all the bird watchers in their binoculars.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Is that how they found her after she went in hiding? I thought that would get more. I'm sorry. Well, so I'm not going to be the one to defend Karen, but not all the facts came out. Oh. So it wasn't as black and white. A. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Hey. So anyway, it's a classic situation where the narrative took the narrative that we all wanted it to take, which is annoying Karen, racist. But there is another side of the story. We don't need to get into it, but just the other side of the story. Well, shit, man. Now I want to know. If you want to look into the other side of the story, he himself published on Facebook that he said the next day he wrote, if you're going to do that, I'm going to do something that you're not going to like, which was a little bit of a threat. After all that happened is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:23:23 That was right before the phone call. Oh, okay. You're not going to like what I'm about to do. And he came to kill that dog. He came to the park with dog treats. So he... I'm going to bring my hawk. So he had a thing of like with dogs.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Like he came prepared with dog treats. And then apparently there's a lot of anecdotes about him getting into it with people. Like he owns the ramble. Like he's a like he's pretty aggressive about stuff. A little uppity. But then the most important thing from the other perspective was if you listen to the 911 call. And again, I'm not here to defend Karen. But if you listen to the actual 911 call, why she's screaming.
Starting point is 00:23:59 has a whole new perspective because the only thing we saw was Karen going there's an African-American threatening me in the ramble and then she keeps getting louder and then if you're the 911 call the 911 operator is like
Starting point is 00:24:14 I'm sorry ma'am you're breaking up can you say that louder? Oh. And she keeps getting more elevated and crazier and it's like well if you listen to the 911 call it makes sense why she sounds like she's getting louder.
Starting point is 00:24:25 It'd be funny if she was like doing that but going like I'm screaming because you're asking me to scream. I'm not screaming because I'm upset and how black he is. So everyone knows, she's directing me to scream about this man's scary blackness. Or like the operator is like, can you say that louder? And she's just like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:45 I'm just going to leave. I'm just going to walk away from this one. That's what I would have done. I think of that. Me too. Can you say that louder? It's like, no. I'll just die if I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:24:56 We're called a cop. over an argument. You know what I mean? Like, anytime it hasn't been escalated. Let's just leave. Right. But I think the other lesson is unless they ask you for a description, just say man. It's just going to be a better read on the internet.
Starting point is 00:25:11 There's a man threatening me. It's not like a helicopter was going to fly into the Central Park Forest and look for an African American. You guys remember that. He's a bird watcher. Him being black has very little to do with anything that's going on. Do you guys remember that Mark Norman bit kind of about this? where he was talking about if you had to make 9-1-1 call
Starting point is 00:25:30 and trying to give a description or whatever. And he's like, this woman just had a terrible car accident. I'm not saying they can't drive or whatever. But that's what happened. It's like, she's Asian. That has nothing to do with it either. And she's like, there's a black guy on a pool of blood, not saying they can't swim, you know, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I mean, obviously I butchered it, but it was funny. There's a community who got in trouble for doing a version of that with trans. You know, like someone's pronouns, you're not sure what their pronouns are, but they've, you know, who did the robbery? He, she, Z, Z. You know what? Fuck it. I did it. Arrest me. I did it. Okay. So bird news, bird controversy is what? Birding is going woke or opposite? All that happened, wow, I'm glad we hit that because all that happened early on in 2020 pandemic when people in big cities were particularly freaked out. wearing masks and didn't have a lot of social exposure, which explains a little, that even more. But that whole controversy led to a group called Bird Names for Birds. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:42 He's good at naming things. Writing to the National Ornithological Society being like, we cannot have these seven birds in North America that were named after men from the 18th century. hundreds who owned slaves or killed Native Americans. We cannot have birds associated with these guys because we need to... A Jim Crow. We need to make... We need to open up... Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:13 We need to open up... I didn't know that was a real guy. We need to open up bird watching. We need to make it more inclusive. Are these famous names? The birds in question? Well, the men. I wrote it down so I didn't forget him.
Starting point is 00:27:29 So no. Well, John James Audubon is the most famous. Okay. Because he's started the Audubon Society. The reason I'm asking is it's like, I don't know if non-white people are avoiding bird watching because one bird watching. Because one bird was named after a dude no one remembers. Well, you're saying, yeah, I mean, you're saying you haven't avoided bird watching because of Clark's Nutcracker? Right.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Right. It's not like Hitler's Clark's Nutcracker. Clark's Nutcracker is one of them named after Lewis the Clark from Lewis and Clark I'm about to say that guy is still you know he's still very very noteworthy right
Starting point is 00:28:05 I just by the way for those just listening Joe just brought out an actual notebook full of bird facts yeah but I didn't want to forget every noteworthy man Joe do you have caughtism he's cautistic yeah
Starting point is 00:28:20 wow you guys got you guys are hitting it you guys are hitman yeah we actually We also, we don't... There's a new person to impress. We don't do it in our... I don't think many of us have many bits on the subject, but we get into animal stuff on here a lot and usually, you know, get rolling a little bit.
Starting point is 00:28:38 But Clark, yeah, I'm sure he was a massive asshole, but so was like literally everybody from history. So like, you know... Well, I doubt there's a lot of you. Everyone's here's Clark's Nutcracker. You're not going to go like Lewis and Clark. Because... Fuck this.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Throw my binoculars thing. You know what I mean? It's like, Well, the people that are like, there's definitely an argument about, like, guys, you're going over the top. Is really the seven bird names keeping minorities away from bird watching? Yeah. I also imagine the reverse. Someone's like, oh, I never thought of it.
Starting point is 00:29:14 But, you know, now that they renamed the birds away from the dudes I've never heard of, because that's the part I can't get past. What are the other five? We got Audubon, Clark, who else? You don't want to mess with McCown's longspur. Okay. John McCown, Confederate surgeon. Yeah. You got...
Starting point is 00:29:33 Wait, Confederate search? Like, he was in the war as a surgeon. Basically. Okay. You got, you got, ooh, the big one was Towns. The big one for me was Townsend's warbler. Okay. John Kirk Townsend, Botanist and dug up Native American graves.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Oh, that's pretty bad. Ooh. Wow. It's rough. To build stuff on top of them as custom or as his custom or just because he liked it. You know, I did follow up and dig up the research. And because I'm like, why would you dig up Native American graves? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:10 He dug up Native American skulls to send them to some scientist to try to prove that white men were smarter. Oh, it gets worse. Yeah, right. Yeah. Oh, my God. I thought he was just trying to steal the... That's called the KFC Double Down. Still the headdress or something that the chief was buried in.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Something like that. This was in his heart. But I would have never... Dude for love of the game. Not capitalism. And hate of the Indians. But I would have never known anything about John Townsend if I hadn't heard about this bird switch.
Starting point is 00:30:43 That's sort of my point is like you're kind of bringing them back into the Lexicon. It's the Barbara Streisand effect. Yes. Yeah. I mean... Warbler. And there's the other thing. Like once you come for our birds, what's next?
Starting point is 00:30:54 Our flowers? I mean, come on. You can't take everything from us. I guess that's the flip side. It doesn't matter to get rid of these names. Yeah, it doesn't. No. But, yeah, like, you know, you're from the South.
Starting point is 00:31:07 It's like anytime you find out, it almost feels like if you dig into the origin of anything in the South. Some of them are obvious, Robert Ely Elementary School or whatever the hell else. But it's like it doesn't matter. It don't have to be like that. It's just like anything. You dig in the origin story or the Edomilo. of any, like, prominent southern building or street or phrase or saying or whatever, and it's
Starting point is 00:31:30 like, it usually ends up being racist. Yeah, I mean, United States of America named after Amerigo Vespucci, a bit of a colonialist, if you ask me. I don't know. Yeah, I didn't know about any of that. I didn't even know it was named after a guy. Amerigo Vespucci? I know America Vespucci.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I believe you. Spaghetti boy. Spaghetti boy. I have to say he sounds Italian to me. Fuck that. Yeah. A colonial spaghetti boy. Well, he can't, you know, he's got to sound something.
Starting point is 00:31:56 He can't sound American. Don't talk shit to me. That's right. You're right. But I was curious to hear y'all's tics on a bird name's being changed for woe reasons. Do they propose, right, yeah. Are they propose like, make it Tubman's warble? Oh, this is fun.
Starting point is 00:32:11 They wanted to be things that describe the bird. Well, I mean, that would also make sense, I feel like. They wanted to be common sense, things that describe the bird. And they're letting anybody submit suggestions for you. each bird. So it's open to the public for suggestions. Like the internet? Because that never goes well. It's not going to go well. It's going to be birdie my bird face or Hitler Sparrow or whatever. Unfortunately, it was good. They were, they're changing that one.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Unfortunately, it's not up for public vote, but it is up because then it would be a lot of birdie bird face. Right. Who's voting? But the public gets to put suggestions in and then the ornithological society. You submitting any? I'm going to go through all 80 and submit. It's weird that the ornithological society's on about names when they're named after killer O.J. Simpson. I think that's very weird.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Wait, wasn't there two more names of birds that you didn't mention? Did I mention Wilson's Snipe? No. And then Swainson's Hawk. Are these... Hold on. Why don't they just keep their names the same but pretend they're named after different people
Starting point is 00:33:20 who also have that last name. I like that's what I was about to ask is like are these historical monsters? Did they also like discover the or like anything to do with these birds or somebody just like somebody that found this bird and as a bird scientist really likes old racist and was like I'm going to give him this one. I like the skull guy this one. Yeah, right. It was basically dudes from the 1800s who were like into birds.
Starting point is 00:33:50 So they were avid birder naturalist, botanist type guys, scientist guys who were also like, yeah, it's cool to own slaves. Yeah, right. They were just into birds and then oppressing people. Sure. And so the birds were named after the people that kind of discovered them slash. Obviously they didn't discover them, but they were the first to identify them. So in the middle of the pandemic, Joe was like, what did my heroes do for hobbies? Well, I mean, dude, if they are the first that identified them, like, I mean, goddamn, like, well, you.
Starting point is 00:34:20 you gonna do, you know? I will say I got into birding thinking it was a very innocent, innocuous thing, free, devoid of conflict and controversy. Well, I mean, like, city names, you know what I mean? Like, you're not going to rename Columbus, Ohio, right?
Starting point is 00:34:36 Obviously. Never. I mean, that'd be crazy. Not on my watch. Christopher Columbus, don't hit. I'm from Clay County. Actually, I don't even know how bad Henry Clay is. He's probably pretty bad, right? But there's a Calhoun County. He was the worst of the worst.
Starting point is 00:34:50 John C. Calhouns? Yeah. He's a bird? John C. Cal. We're named after Daniel Morgan who was in a military. I've never looked up. I think he was a revolutionary war guy, but still probably wasn't good after that. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:01 It's just, you know, I hate to say it, but it feels like a bit of a slippery slope to me, guys. First it's birds. Next, it's their own of vote. Like you said. Another thing that this made me think of was, like, all these, a lot of these people thought, like, similar ways, 200 to 300 years ago, right, about Native Americans or whatever they thought.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Even though, like, naturey people. Yeah. It made me realize, like, it made me a little intimidated to think what people 300 years from now are going to think of us. Oh, yeah. That's why they're not naming the birds after new heroes.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Because then you have the Bill Cosby Eagle and boom. We've talked about Cosby's Night Jar. Yeah. We talked before about, like, what do you think, like, what we think, what we are going to be papaws about in the future. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:54 Like exactly what you're talking about. And I tried to make a bit for a while and they really could get it together about how like I thought even when society advances the South will still be a little bit behind everybody else. So it's like in the future, you know, like southern papas in the future will be racist against like androids or whatever or like if aliens show up, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:13 they're racist against aliens too and that type of thing. But I'm sure there's going to be stuff that we can't even think of. The things I was brainstorming were like, we're like, they used to have zoos. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. They used to eat animals. No, that's what I thought. That's the one I think.
Starting point is 00:36:30 That one's almost for sure going to have. We've talked about that. They'll figure out a way to like read animal's thoughts. It's like, oh, I wonder what they think. And just over and over, they're screaming, please don't eat my children. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I'm still going to eat them. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Sure. And then. They're going to come after Colonel Sanders eventually, don't you think? I don't know how bad relativity. speaking he was to any of y'all just because just because i know like we would we know all that don't you think like in how everything's gone the past few years if he was like a monster like that it would come out i think i actually follow one of his distant relatives who like kind of looks mexican but he dresses like colonel sanders core he follows an insane person who pretends to be
Starting point is 00:37:14 Colonel Sanders. Well, his entire Instagram is defending the legacy of Colonel Sanders. Like, he goes, anytime anyone is talking any type of shit, he makes a real and he's dressed up. Like, I don't know if he's Mexican, but he's got the mustache and he's a little dark-complected. He don't look like he's, his grandson is all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And he just goes on there and he's just like, all these people are talking shit about Harvey, which I think is his real name. But, like, he didn't, He did not steal his chicken recipe from black people. He made it up. And it, Harlan? Harlan.
Starting point is 00:37:51 There you go. Harlan Sanders. Dude, let's make up some shit about him to see if we can get that guy to respond. Y'all got bigger followings than me. One of y'all do it. Just make some little shit up. But if he did, I don't want to come out for the colonel. I'm about to say, I got no beef with the colonel.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Hell no. That's my do. No beef with the colon. The owner of Chick-fil-A's under fire. Colonel Sanders, Bo Jangle is next. That's right. Right, yeah. Where does it end?
Starting point is 00:38:15 Carnal bow jangles. You also, you talked about something else that we've talked about on here. It's always been hilarious to me, like a fascination of mine, and it's sort of in the same ballpark about, like, sometimes you'll see a headline about, like, a scientific study or something, and it's like, how high were those scientists when they came up with that? It's like, you were saying, like, scientists, like, they're either curing cancer or trying to, like, solve, you know, hunger forever or get us to Mars or whatever. Or, as you said, they're like, I wonder if monkeys play soccer or whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It can't play soccer. And I love that shit. Do you know about, first question, do you know about the Ig Nobel Prizes, the Ig Nobel Prize? Oh, no, it sounds right at my alley. Yeah, you should check it out. It's pretty funny. It's, you know, probably tell just from hearing the name. It's like, it's this other, it's sort of like the Razies with the Osseys.
Starting point is 00:39:13 You know, they give out these awards to people who do real dumb shit in the same fields that, you know, the people get Nobel Prizes for us. The dumbest, science studies. The dumbest seeming science studies or whatever. And the second question is, I think our favorite that we've, that comes up on here every now and then. I don't know if this person actually won the Ig Nobel Prize, but she should have. This might predate that. But our favorite one of these types of things, do you know about the lady who jacked off her? that dolphin trying to teach it to talk,
Starting point is 00:39:46 and then when she left it, it killed itself. Do you know about that? You know about that? What are you thinking about that? I'm a lot-headed. Peter. Peter the dolphin. You know, I had heard about a woman that did this in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I didn't hear. I heard that the dolphin really grew fond of her. Yes. I didn't hear. And it was the CIA. That's the only part he left out. I didn't hear the last part about the dolphin taking its life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Tell him how, Tray. He just stayed at the bottom. Went to the bottom and just stayed there until he died. Oh, my God. Yeah, it gets less funny. A depressed. I don't know. It's still pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:40:30 That dolphin would be long-bunty. It's fucking big. By now, anyway, hell. Yeah, but that was the woman in the 60s, right? Yeah, so they were trying to, they were trying to figure out way to, like, you know, like, communicate with dolphins. Like, humans and dolphins, bandwidth, just like we've done with the apes and the sign language is stuff. But for weapon reasons. Some lady just goes, how about I jack him off? No, she couldn't get him. Well, you know, dolphins are famously like rapy and famously horny
Starting point is 00:40:52 dolphins. Like, they love to, they fuck heads. Yeah, fish heads. To be fair, just to be fair, just so we're not specious. Okay. There's 41 different dolphin species. They're all horny. Get the fuck out of it. And some of them, some of them are a little bit, you know, rapy. But there's, there's plenty of species that are sweet. Well, this was one. of the rape monster dolphin that she was working with. And she couldn't get him to like, she couldn't get him to. They found him actually. She couldn't get him to focus, you know, get your head in the game. Dolphin, fucking pay attention. Yeah. And he just wouldn't because he was all whatever, riled up and, you know. Needed to get jacked off. And so she had the bright idea. She's like,
Starting point is 00:41:35 maybe if I jacked this dolphin off, then he'll chill out, get the baby batter off the brain, and actually listened to me in class. That's true. It's a little of time. It worked. And then she then, so she just kept doing it. And because she kept doing it, he fell in love with her, Dolphin Love. And then when the program ended and she had to go away and she left him, you know, he killed himself by sinking to the bottom.
Starting point is 00:41:59 My guess is that somebody ended that program. Yeah, right. What's one of those things like, what were they doing? Yeah, someone's boss was like, we're doing what? We're funding. How much are we spending on this? Yeah. Yeah, but it was the CIA, right?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Dude, they were like the shit they did. Well, they were taking, though, their drugs they were inventing. Right. Man. So I guess that's why we brought you on here today, dolphin rape. Yeah. Is it the only funny form of rape or not? I try to get a bit about that to work, like four or five times.
Starting point is 00:42:29 No one, no one wants to hear it. But it's like, if your buddy was like, hey, man, I got something to tell you, last week in Florida, I got raped by a dolphin, you'd accidentally laugh. Like, you'd laugh. I do think Dolphins the best one because I almost threw out Monkey but I was like, no, that's too close to people. That ain't it. That's the uncanny valley.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah. You know, I'm gonna... Giraff? I have no comment on this topic. You don't want to rank? I can't even say it now. But I will say just last night I was hanging with somebody in Utah,
Starting point is 00:43:04 not a comedian who told me that a guy in Utah had gone to jail for assaulting sexually an ostrich. So that was something I had planned to Google later as well. No, they're too tall, I think, aren't they? Don't you think they're too tall? Oh, yeah, you'd still have to get a stool. But just the amount of desire you'd have to have to pull that off with an ostrich sounds pretty...
Starting point is 00:43:32 Because aren't they a little... They don't... They're known for being violent. I'm about to say they don't just... They wouldn't just take that shit, but... You got to be kind of... a badass, I think, to sexually assault an ostrich. Because, like, they'll fuck
Starting point is 00:43:43 you up. We respect this guy. I'm just saying. Get him on the show. In addition to being a lunatic, he's pretty hardcore, is all I'm saying, because those things will fuck you up. That's the bad combination, when a lunatic is pretty hardcore. Yeah, because you know, they're close cousins that emus, right, famously won
Starting point is 00:43:59 a war against Australia. And cassowaries, which are a rarer bird, but it's the deadliest one around. Now you guys are just trying to impress me. Oh, yeah. You like cassiwheres? I've been doing that the whole time. I've seen a Cassowary in the wild. In Australia? Yeah, there's only like a thousand of them in the wild.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Oh, wow. Well, there was back then. Is Ian Casawari a racist from Australia, you think? Killed Aboriginals, yeah. Yeah. Sure. Oh, I didn't get the bid at first. I was like, who the fuck is Ian Gassowary?
Starting point is 00:44:25 Joe was all over it. You ain't got to worry. You saw Cassowry. Wow. Were you intimidated? No. I mean, he was running away from us. There was a group of us.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And they just looked like tiny emus. I mean, if they had come at us, sure, I'd have shit my pants. I mean, yeah, well, that's actually, I'm sure there's probably some people for whom that's their nemesis bird, don't you think? Oh, yeah. Casabary? More ways than one. I bet if they really wanted to see it. So there's only like a thousand of them in the wild, but they're all in one area. We did get lucky, but like, surely it's not that rare.
Starting point is 00:44:58 What if that's the luckiest thing that ever happened to me? I wasted all my luck on that event. I'm saying the Cassowary. I don't even care. Well, Joe's impressed. It was cool, especially because my buddy Luke was. being an idiot. We have this on film. He was like, this is how you call them boys. Like, we were higher or whatever. We were 22. And he was like, Cassowary. And the second time he
Starting point is 00:45:19 hit it a fucking bird walked out right in front of us, looked at us and took off. Nice. Yeah. That's beautiful. That is nice. You also, this has nothing to do with birds or science, but you, uh, we're talking about school and how much school sucks or whatever, which is like how much it would suck as an adult, which I thought it was funny because I, I feel like generally speaking, you know, you think about school and it's like, ah, and didn't know how good I had it. They don't know how good they got it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:47 So simple school. You know what I mean? I don't have any stress of adult life. You know, you don't even know there's a good old days until it's too late. But you were talking about it made me realize like, no, I guess school does kind of suck. I've got two sons that are like middle school age right now. And I was like, yeah, my day hits so much harder than theirs. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:07 You can literally do whatever you want. Yeah, right. And they, every day, seven to three, seven to four. Well, you know the schedule better than I do. Yeah, the way, again, I keep, I do not want to spoil your bits. Please watch his special. It's so goddamn funny. But the way you talked about lunch and P.E., like that whole dynamic, just absolutely fucking killed.
Starting point is 00:46:32 You made me feel like shit because you mentioned ingest one of my favorite meals. which is spaghetti and milk. I'm a big fan of spaghetti and milk and then running around in hiking boats, you asshole. Well, there you go. That's what you said. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:46:47 That's your thing, huh? Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well, you probably got into spaghetti and milk from all your years of public school. That's probably where they got. That's true. West Virginia, the big exciting meal in West Virginia
Starting point is 00:46:59 was pepperoni rolls on Wednesday. I don't know if you had a special meal in Tennessee. We have p-a-on-chis and cheese and rolls was the whole meal, just straight carbs. I mean, the classic square pizza. With the corn, which is also carbs. Did you put the corn on the pizza? No, of course.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I did, buddy. Oh, that rectangle pizza? Yeah, the rectangle pizza. Marchetta. We had the fold it like a burrito. Breakfast version of that. Okay. Do you have that?
Starting point is 00:47:25 The breakfast square pizza? I didn't do the breakfast at school because I didn't ride the bus because my mom worked there. Oh, wow. Yeah. School lunch is where I learned the move where, people would innocently be like, are you going to finish your role? And we would just learn to just lick the roll right in front of their face.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Yeah, sure. Or the other move you learn around fifth grade is, oh, what's that? I've never tried that before. Yeah, yeah, see. You've never tried pizza? Natchos. Let me ask you this, because I think I generally know for them, too.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Because I have fifth grader and a sixth grader. Those are good years You're nice guy Those are memorable years Are you So that's my question When you were in sixth grade Were you like an absolute
Starting point is 00:48:15 Just fucking degenerate Monster? I don't mean like in your classrooms Whatever I just mean with your buddies and shit Because I was talking about my wife The other night about how Because my best friend from back home He's got kids the same age as mine
Starting point is 00:48:28 And Will talk before He's like dude Do you remember what we were like In sixth grade because like, I think it was seventh for me. Dude, for us, it was definitely six. Like, we were, bus show, just nasty is what I'm saying. I remember that time.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Nasty and, like, just covered and come. My sons just don't, and my wife don't want to hear it at all. You know, she's like, no, they're not even close to that type of thing. And I'm like, Katie, I think you're in denial. But anyway, so, like, well, for you, like. Well, my memory of fifth and sixth grade was that I was still just an innocent, slightly introverted. to slightly chubby child that like to do research
Starting point is 00:49:08 on Kiwis and stuff like that. The birds? Yeah. The people of New Zealand? Worldtime bird lover. I thought it was fruit. Those are all over the fucking map. I was writing a lot of research papers on,
Starting point is 00:49:20 you know, the Amazon rainforests, those sort of thing. It was, it was. Maybe that's why you hated school. But I noticed, but I noticed around 5th and 6th grade is when the trouble, the troublemakers and the bullies started showing up in force. Yeah. And so, you know, you had to be a little more careful what you said.
Starting point is 00:49:38 So I was more of the quiet kid, fifth, sixth grade. But the bad kids start to really show up in fifth sixth grade. So I was a fat dork, too. You didn't classify yourself exactly that way. That's how I hurt. Yeah, I was a fat dork too, but I just, so I wasn't like, I wasn't being a dickhead or bullying people or nothing like that. But, like, my aforementioned best friend and the other, like, redneck kids we ran with and stuff,
Starting point is 00:50:01 like I don't feel like we were causing too much hell or bothering other kids at school and everything I just mean like dirty jokes the shit we talked about yeah that's when you get that's when you develop your sense of humor like just you know yeah cussing like sailors just acting like
Starting point is 00:50:17 just talking about you know butth not even a like putting the curse words in random places too yeah ways it don't even make sense this is uh well fifth and sixth grade for me was was just a lot of people quoting bevis and butthead and quoting the Simpsons Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yep. That was what age I was at. What are they into, quote, like, don't they like the brothers who were pretty crass, Jake and Logan? Thankfully, no. Okay. They haven't found them yet, I don't think. But they do, they fucking love YouTubers, you know, and Chris Swans or whatever. That's the thing is like, dude, I make them watch stuff, TV shows and movies and stuff, and they will watch it and they'll enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:50:55 But if I didn't make them, like coming here, we're watching a movie, like, they would just, us watch YouTube, like YouTubers and stuff. And that's how most kids are. Like they just... Do they like crafts ones? It's just YouTube all goddamn day. There's got to be some of that on there. I'm sure, but usually when I watch, if I ever see the streamers
Starting point is 00:51:13 or the YouTubers they're watching, it drives me insane. What are they doing? Just like throwing stuff? No, they play video games and yell, and it's like, they're just like loud. And I'll seriously, I'll be watching sometimes and I'll be like, you know this is low effort garbage, right? Like, you know, I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:29 what's your father does. I was like, I was like, this dude has no jokes, no nothing. I was like, he's just being loud. Why do you like this, right? He's described my special that way. And what do they say? I'm curious. They're just like, oh, you just don't get it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And another time I asked one of them, I was like, I was like, I don't understand why you just like to watch the, I don't like, why you like to watch other people play video games on the TV? And he was like, why do you like to watch other comedians tell jokes on the TV? And I was like, God damn it. Got his ass. Yeah, but so I think it was, I think it was seven. Because video games aren't considered an art form. No, but they are like, I don't know about art. Well, first of all, I think making video games, like the people that make like Red Day Redemption or whatever, that's 100% in art form.
Starting point is 00:52:15 But as far as playing them, no, but it is like more and more of a legitimate pursuit. It's still like going pro in the NFL making money off of it. But like, you know, that shit's huge. True. Not to defend your kids too much, but dude, if you actually watch some of those people that are, like really insanely good at like Fortnite go on these like runs. I can understand like watching a 10 minute clip of it because I'm so bad at it and like watching somebody be good at it. No, I agree with that. But the thing is a lot of them they watch it. It's not because they're good.
Starting point is 00:52:44 See, I get that too. The people who are the best in the world at a video game that you like to play, I totally get watching that because it is impressive. If you play it too, but let's not watch middle school football. But they watch, but they watch people that aren't even good. They're just, they just are dumb while playing. Do the kids think they're funny? Are they like this guy is funny? Yeah, yeah. I think also around that age, it just depends on your environment too.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Because I think it was seventh grade for me. And I think we got like a new kid and he started it. And now we're all into like those kinds of jokes. And I bet your kids go to a school where maybe like you're lucky right now. They just haven't been around it. It will happen like seemingly overnight. Because what happens, I think, is like, some part of your brain gets tickled when you start to hear that stuff. And then you just love it.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It's coming up soon. Isn't it happening later for kids too? Isn't that a thing? Because the chicken? I don't know. Because the hormones in the chicken or something? I think that, like, yeah. Show was all over that.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I think it's pretty proven that puberty's coming later and men have less testosterone all throughout their life. I definitely are a lot of people bitching about that, you know, because that's how woke we've gotten. We're all pussies now, us, man. We don't have any testosterone anymore. we're not sun in our tanks. Anyway. I've heard it's because of the microplastics. Yeah, I've heard that too.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I mean, yeah, those definitely don't hit. No, I like macroplastics. What do you think about in terms of like, you know, we're all comedians? And obviously I, like, and Corey too, both like went viral on the internet, but both have been doing stand-up for years before that. Like, these people that, you're finding somebody and you're like, what is this? and then you look and they have like five million followers on Instagram or something and they don't all that. And there's one guy we bitch about it all the time.
Starting point is 00:54:32 This dude drives me insane. Literally all he does is like he finds a clip that's already going viral that's like a funny clip or whatever. And he'll inject himself in the middle of it and say like one line. And like he's like a joke like the example always give because I was like, are you serious? Like there's this video that was getting passed around. It's this white trash looking dude, like trailer park looking dude. his, you see his girlfriend's butt leaning over the sink in the kitchen. He walks up and smacks it.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And when he smacks it, the camera moves. And you see it's not a butt. It's her gigantic gut. She's a big, big fat girl. And so that, it shows that. It cuts to this guy. He stares at the camera and he goes, I ain't seen a twist like that since the sixth sense. And it cuts off.
Starting point is 00:55:15 And that's the whole thing, right? So it's like stuff like that. Sometimes he don't even say anything, right? He just makes like a face. Oh, he did one of mine early on. and he just, what, lip sunk my joke.
Starting point is 00:55:26 And this guy's huge. Yeah, he wasn't huge when he did mine. He's got like seven-ish million followers on TikTok and like two or three million on Instagram. Any tours now? You're missing weekends because of this guy. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:55:39 well, like, where are you at on all that? So now that we're done ranking animal rape. I imagine don't hit for you, right? I mean, I don't have a, I guess my, I don't have a strong take on it other than, I just want to know who's watching. I think, because of things we've already talked about, I have found that usually when you run across somebody like that and you ask yourself that question, usually the answer is children.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Right. 10, 12 year old children, whatever. And that's like, and there's a shitload of them. They're on YouTube and social media. stuff all the time and they like they're massive selling tickets but it still could be kids because there's right down this same street they're right across from my house there's a dance studio called studio siwa you know jojo sewa oh of course right okay so like she got oh i thought you were been serious because she it does sound like a bird though she got huge she got huge uh amongst
Starting point is 00:56:46 kids like originally on the internet and she does like songs and stuff. I don't know. I've never seen it, but she does music stuff. And the last time we're in New Orleans, I was on the way to our show at that little theater we were at and did not sell out. And I went by the Superdome. And Jojo C. while I was playing the Superdome that night. So like... Her stuff's four kids. It is four kids. That guy is not selling tickets. It's kids, but also, dude, I think it's like everybody you went to high school with is watching that guy's videos. and probably thinking themselves, man, I argue with this guy, they should collaborate.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I just want to know, well, I can imagine clicking on the video and watching it because it's already gone viral, so it's obviously capturing people's attention. But I can't imagine being like, I'm going to follow that guy. He's my guy. I'm going to follow him and go to his live shows.
Starting point is 00:57:40 You know what I just realized it is? You remember when people were aggregating and all they were doing? Fat Jew and them? Fuck Jerry. They were just taking our stuff. And then they were like, we're aggregators. And we were like, this is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:57:53 That guy's doing that. But at the end, I'll say a line. And there I get away with it. As long as you, as far as the aggregators go, it is still kind of like, you know, well, that's not an actual skill. I guess you have taste. I don't know. But anyway, as long as you give credit, then it actually hits for me just fine. If they credit, because, you know, like Rex, right?
Starting point is 00:58:15 Like he gives you credit and whatnot. And that can give you like a bump. shit, but those guys were acting like they came up with the stuff or whatever. I'm saying this guy's like almost a response to that. Like, okay, the critique is you're not giving credit and you don't do anything. And he's like, all right, I give
Starting point is 00:58:29 credit and I add a line. And I steal him selling out more fucking tickets than you. I'll be honest, if this dude had done it to me later in his career and it had bumped me a little bit, I might be like, dude, that's like, I got fucking rules, man. Yeah, it's weird. Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:46 there's a lot of stuff out there too, boys. That's true. I mean, no, that is true. You know what? Is it quality Joe Zimmerman special? It is. Colt Classic.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Thank you. And I'm going to start taking viral videos and add my little line at the end. Yeah. Do it to mine. Worth a shot. And I'm going to plug Colt Classic at the end of the viral video. Well, yeah, it is about time. It was great to see.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Oh, I didn't mean to. No, no. No, we need to. Joe, plug all your other shit, though. You was about to say. Tell everybody what you want them to know. Oh, just, you know, I try to stay active once a week on Instagram at Joe Zimmerman. I'll post a little clip.
Starting point is 00:59:26 I definitely follow these boys. And, yeah, my new special on YouTube called Cult Classic. I hope you'll give it a watch. And I think those are the big two things, Instagram and Cult Classic new special. Nice. Yeah. I love that. And again, not just saying it, y'all.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Absolutely incredible. So funny. Like I said, totally clean. But, like, you know what you've never even. You don't even think about that. I wouldn't even think about that. But it is clean, so it is family friendly. Because Joe, his energy is so filthy that it makes up for it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I actually can see it in his eyes. Well, the next hour is going to be all dolphin and ostrich assault. He wouldn't even say the R word. I know. He's like, dolphin assault. Yeah. I mean, it is a tough word. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Oh, that's not the R word I thought of. Oh, also, none of that was time sensitive for what you just said. This actually would be next Wednesday, just so you know. Okay. So, hey, y'all, this weekend. Yeah, coming up soon. It is Tis the season. Y'all, this weekend, the three of us are going to be in Zanis.
Starting point is 01:00:24 As always, there's our holiday, homecoming holiday dates at Zanis in Nashville. So come see us. And I've got a bunch of dates in 2024. Go to trycrowder.com and come and see me. No, this show comes out after my San Francisco shows, and then I'm off probably most of January. I think I'm going to be in Orange County. I don't even remember the date, but like, I hope we don't even have listeners in Orange County. If we do, you're probably rad and you made all the people you grow up around.
Starting point is 01:00:52 We definitely have some. Okay, cool. So there's some people in Orange County who are against the tide of Orange County? Orange County is in Orange County where all the Republicans out here live? Yeah, but dude, it's like nothing compared to like the red parts of where we're from. It's like the red part of Southern California. But think about how different the Overton window or whatever it is in Southern California. Yeah, so Drew Morgancomedy.com.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Come hear me talk about the Overton window. Hey, and also listen to all the podcasts in the skewniverse. There is the weekly skews with Trey and Smart Mark. Drew has Gravy Baby with Carmen Morales and DJ DJ Lewis. Me and Trey have putting on airs. Also, by the way, through the screen door, my old podcast coming back. Go to bonus cory.com to get my shit. And by the way, Jerry Mander, my character, he's running for president.
Starting point is 01:01:40 And you can get your t-shirt to support the campaign at coryshirts.com. Also, thank you all for listening to The Well Red Show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Hold on what? What? What are you laughing at? He says Congress on your shirt. You said, President. Is he bumping up? Because he's already in Congress? You have to get in Congress first. That's this election. And then he's going to run for president.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It was funny to me as part of the bit, too. Never mind. It hit for me. It's fake. I know. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's funnier as a fake. And you're like, and also, what if we made the t-shirts wrong in this fake universe? Yeah, I didn't think about it, but you are correct. We like, uh, what, uh, what, how's the song? Tune in next week.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Tune in next week. If you got nothing to do. Thank you, God bless you. Good night and skew. Screw. All right. This episode is brought to you by the new book, Round Here and Over Yonder, written by author's Trey Crowder and Corey Ryan Forrester.
Starting point is 01:02:48 That's your boy. The book is out now. I would like to thank everyone who did the pre-order, but for those of you who were like, you know what, I went away and actually go to a bookstore and pick this thing up. Well, you can do that right now. Round here and over yonder,
Starting point is 01:03:01 a front porch travel guide written by two progressive hillbillies, parenthetical. Yes, that's a thing. We love long titles, but we love making you laugh even more. This book is Chalk Phil. Chalked fill. Chalked full of jokes.
Starting point is 01:03:16 We chock filled it, too. It's got a bunch of jokes in it. It's really, really, really fun. We tried to take the stereotypes of certain regions, talk about what they are, talk about what they got right, talk about what the actual reality is. Of course, we did it with our own little region here in the South.
Starting point is 01:03:31 We went everywhere else in the United States, and for the first time in our lives, we went to the UK. It's Rednecks Abroad. The book is round here and over yonder. Not to brag on us, but I will. It is hilarious. Pick it up now.
Starting point is 01:03:44 wherever you get books. And by the way, we narrated the audio version, if that's how you want to digest it. But there is no wrong way. Round here and over yonder, wherever you get you books, do it at an indie bookstore.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.