wellRED podcast - #377 - Why Do Young People Love Andrew Tate?

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

This week on the show, the boys discuss the youth of America drifting further and further right, and pontificate on what is to blame!   They also talk about being men in general and Drew cracks the code on how to strike back against an "Alpha Male"   Trae is on tour! Go get your tickets at TraeCrowder.com   Catch Drew on the road by going to DrewMorganComedy.com   BonusCorey.com is where you can find Corey's silly stuff!   Check out Puttin On Airs, Gravy Baby, and Weekly Skews!

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At ATC Studios shows there in Georgia. We're here we are. I know, I know. God. Just want to switch a little bit. Excuse the hell out of me. Anyway. Having a stroke, are you?

We're running a little bit behind here at ATC Studios today. So we got some other people coming in in about 45 minutes. So, you know, 46 minutes. So we're going to. That's about what we'll have in store for you. You all chose me and Jerry were talking before we started. We want to talk about man stuff, being a man. I mean, just pisses people off sometimes, by the way.

I know. I've gotten some feedback before. This is perfect. About how we're to, all of us seem to be too hung up. Too manly? No. Too hung up on. Opposite.

On how queer we all are. Yeah, how not manly we are. Like all the stories to tell about my father-in-law and that type of shit. But I've been thinking about it a lot because I have sons that are like tweens. going to be teenagers soon. Yeah. And just to, you know, not to just immediately make it about politics, but I'm sure we don't have to be, we don't have to get into politics specifically, but I just saw this thing the other

day. I'm sure it'll come as no surprise to you. Teenage boys are just flying further and further. To the right. To the right down the like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, whatever, rabbit holes, right? And I have tween boys. and I find that super alarming. Now, of course, I'm their dad.

Sure. It's my job to keep that from happening. Right, but kids rebel against their parents. Yeah, right, exactly. But anyway, I just wanted to, you know, start by talking about that, but also just masculinity and being a man in general because Drew's thinking about going to a manliness retreat where you slap each other in the chest and cry and talk about your mom and shit.

That's a bit. That's a bit, Corey. Yeah, I figured. But anyway, I saw some people saying it's like, well, yeah, well, you know, all the left does, is talk shit about boys and young men and shit, like especially white ones. All the left does is blame them for everything and talk about how inherently awful they are. I think I brought this up, but this is the main positive thing,

the main reason I won't completely shut down and the main reason that I am still sort of a fan of Joe Rogan. There are countless American boys who see Joe Rogan, like young men who are very impressionable, who see Joe Rogan have a conversation with Bernie Sanders, who see Joe Rogan have a conversation with Cornell West, and that is a very different thing than Andrew Tate that I'm so grateful to exist. Russell Brand also used to sort of be one of those guys, and then everyone found out he was raping people,

so he just went fully out of the way. Smart move on his part, honestly. I think a lot of young men grow up and realize that most of that's a grift, that that's not what being a man about. I think the issue is that, and I mean the sincere, really real men quote unquote who like assume manliness they don't need to talk about it yeah whether they're moving silence like lasagna right you know whether they're right wing or left wing and theater wise so who's doing it well people who are trying to make money off of it right

well that's where the money is is on the right right now does that make sense like there would be a left man grifter if there was like a market for that at the moment i've been trying to think about how to become that guy yeah just the krasenstein we should no they're But they're weak. Here's how to... We've talked about it. We talked... Maybe I'm thinking

a gravy baby. We were talking about this recently. If Hannah Gadsby... Because we should figure that out. We've all got some of us. I've got it figured out. But there's a problem. You've got to figure out the problem with it.

If Hannah Gadsme as an example, when all those people were shitting on what she did with that special, it just called them all gay. Yeah. What are you doing talking to a female comedian about what she does on stage anyway? You like theater? What are you gay? Look at this fucking gay.

You know, gay. It would work. I was in the sauna starting out pretty gay the other day and this guy found that I was doing that I'm a comedian and he works out of my gym, he sees me working out in there and he found out of the comedian he got really excited and he wanted to ask me about cancel culture

of course. How do you be a comedian? You can't say anything anymore. I was like, well I think you can't. You boys with Schultz? Yeah, well he's older so he was like what about Chappelle and Rogan saying you can't? And I said they sound like a bunch of pussies to me he fucking loved it, dude. This dude

hated me for saying anything negative about Shepel and Rogan until I said they're huge pussies. I was like, what kind of pussy is worried what people are tweeting about him? What kind of pussy is worried about what deal they're going to get based upon? And then this dude was like

man, I never thought of it that way. Right. You've got to use the $25 million. Shut the fuck up, pussy. You've got to use the toxic masculinity that is inside them already. It's the Bill birth thing where at the beginning of the special, he hates women and everything's bullshit.

And then, like, at some point between minute 30 and 42, he's like, ah, fuck, maybe I'm wrong. Right. And he has all these toxicically, our culture is so toxicly male that I think you've got to feed them a little bit of that to get them on your team in the first place. Not to mention that almost by definition, a 13-year-old boy who just hit puberty is toxicly male. You have all those fucking new, fucking emotions flowing through you. It's hard all the time. fucking couched and cushions and stuff. And you're a dumb 13-year-old.

So the guy who's the loudest seems the toughest. He's coming all everything, not even knowing what's happening. It's that or it's got to be the Kelsey Brothers. That's the only other theory I have. It could be the Kelsey brothers. Yeah, they're probably much better suited for it than we are, I would admit. Yeah. But imagine if Travis Kelsey with this whole thing with Aaron Rogers,

if people who don't know Aaron Rogers keep saying, Travis Kelsey debate me about vaccinations. And Kelsey keeps being like, well, I play football and you got injured, so I'm not going to right now. Yeah. But if he would add to the end of that, you fucking gay pussy, it would work. Take it back. But who would it alienate if you did that?

Gay pussies like Aaron Rogers. No, they would love it, ironically. Right. Suddenly they'd be like, man, I don't know. Travis had some good points too. But you would alienate all most other people on the left. And I understand why. That's the problem you can't solve.

Right. We can't just go calling everybody gay and it hit for the people on the left. You're right. I could be wrong. I mean, just try. All right. I'm going to start doing it. Aaron Rogers is fucking gay, dude.

No, I didn't feel right. Y'all are both fucking gay. I kept thinking about gay people and I didn't like how it felt. Well, let me tell this story real quick because I can't believe how perfect that this story is that you all want to talk about man and shit. And this is why I can't do it because I got to do this caveat now because I feel bad. I don't think that what I just said is good. I don't think that's a good reflection. It reflects poorly on American society that I'm right.

I get no joy out of what I said being true, but it is true. Before you, real quick show, is there another, it's like an adjacent approach to that where it's like telling these people, because like, again, it's like, oh, all the left does is vilify them. And then Peterson and them are like, you know, you guys are great if you just do this and this, whatever else. It's like, you know. To be a positive, you're such a good dad. But no, I'm saying, telling like. No, if you don't hit, it's because of you, right?

And it's not because of like society. Stop blaming women. Or women or anything. It's like you need to get, you need to quit being a little bitch and get your shit together. See, but you've got to throw that in there. You have a little bitch part in there. You know who's done it? Yeah.

You. One of the best lines you ever delivered, and it is one of the things that broke you on the internet, was quit being a pussy and say what you mean. Yeah. That made it to where, even. people who don't like that word were like, oh my God. Am I being a pussy? He's one of them. No, but I'm saying like women, Corey, liberal women were like, damn, one of these men is right. If you hadn't said that, it would have been like, well, some NPR weirdos got an accent. Yeah. I mean, just that part of it, I feel like all three of us are pretty okay about, I think.

Buddy, if we were ripped and doing what we do, I think we would be the, that's the other day. We just got to like throw some tires on the internet. The biggest video, like the biggest video I ever had, I literally was calling the insurrectionists a bunch of fucking weak pussies. You're, I didn't ever think about that. Toxic masculinity affects women too. Women think also get convinced by society that that's what strength is. It's like being like defiant. I mean, I've done this.

I've prayed on it. I mean, I got funny in locker rooms. The reason I'm funny is because I've been around men like this my whole life. So I also know how to take the piss away from them. Uh-huh. But it is, it's not leading anywhere good if you build your whole esteem up on, you know, winning, however you define that. And we know that. And that's why it's hard to have one on the left.

Because ultimately, we know that like being a man is just taking care of yourself and your family as best you can and get, you know what I mean? Yeah. Being respectful. Okay, Joe, go ahead with that story. And then I got another part. I want to get into. So speaking of manliness, I had to go to the grocery store the other day with Amber. We just went to the doctor.

She had strep throat. She needs some medicine. So I'm like, all right, fuck it. I'm going to go. It was 545 in the afternoon, which I normally never go to the grocery store then because you run into people. Like being a stay-at-home dad, I go at one. I ain't nobody there.

So as soon as I'm getting out of the car, I'm like, God damn it, like, please just let me don't see nobody I know. First thing I, I ain't even got in the damn store. I run into my buddy. Who I was happy. I love him. I used to watch his kids at daycare, right? So I hear a skew.

And I was like, oh shit, what up, dog? You know, we daff it up. And he goes, man, let me see that young and, dude. Let me see that young. So I pull out my phone. I start showing him pictures of Bain. He's like, oh, my God, he's so big. And I was like, well, let me see the boys, you know.

He pulls out his phone. He starts showing me pictures of the boys. And I'm like, man, they're getting so big, dude. And we're just sitting there looking at our phones, talking about how big our kids are getting, right? Well, out of my peripheral vision, all the sudden, I noticed there's this old man. And I mean, like, oh, like 80-something-year-year-old man. wearing Levi jeans, a fishing shirt, a trucker hat, and he's got a cane. And he is grinning ear to ear, and he's coming at us as fast as he possibly can on this cane.

And he's so excited. He gets up to us, and we look up at him. We're like, hey, how are you? And he goes, y'all showing pictures of big fish? And we were like, what? And he goes, y'all showing big pictures of fish on your phones? and we're like, no, we're showing pictures of our kids. And he goes, oh, damn, I've seen you over here on your phones.

I figured you're looking at Big Fish. And we were like, no, man. And he just kind of stared at us for a minute. And he goes, well, can I show you my Big Fish? And we go, yeah, buddy. So he just starts showing us. He goes, I guarantee you ain't got one bigger than this one, boy. Look at right there.

And you just start. But like, and then he goes, he goes, all right, well, I'm sorry for bothering, y'all. I just thought you're showing big fish pictures. And he scurried off. And like, it made me so happy that this old man saw two men that he had no idea who they were. And he was like, by God, if they're showing pictures of big fish, I got to get in on this shit. So that rule. That's actually directly related to the next thing I was going to bring up that I have also seen this blamed for, or at least talked about this being a contributing factor for.

That old papal, like Corey said, he saw two other dudes who he thought. was talking about big fish and it just lit his whole world up, right? Which implies that he don't get to share his fish very often, right? With other dudes who have fish pictures, right? Yeah, they're all dead. So, like, I've also seen people talk about another factor in this, and this whole thing that's happening with dudes and being men and masculinity and sun in your taints and all this shit is the decline of male spaces,

which is like places where dudes just go just to be bros, You know what I mean? Just dudes being dudes broing out and no goddamn women around and everything, you know? It's so hard. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, you know, we at least do this every week. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Get on here and talk about our feelings and our diet. Sure. Yeah, crushing it. But that's what they, these dudes would. These dudes would. But they do that. They just like, you know what I mean?

Old dudes used to, you mean. VFW, the Hardys. Yeah, I'm saying. Moose Lodge. getting to VFW, you know you've had at least a few too many in you, and you're going to start talking about how it don't really hit for you all of them. We did it. We did it yet.

Vietnamese you killed or whatever. I did for that one guy. That's what I'm saying. We did that yesterday to a certain extent in the sports bar. And there was definitely a moment where I was like, man, we're talking shit on the women folk. And there's women all around us. But I feel like they were pretty respectful. I didn't even get one eye roll.

Yeah. But like you were saying, those clubs and stuff, like I got, moose and all these different That's happening across the board. There's like not spaces. I know that. Yeah. Well, I'm saying that don't hit, right? No, it don't.

Like that's not good. Spaces have gone online, right? And online spaces are awful in a lot of ways. Thanks for listening everybody. But, you know, like forums and shit. Our buddy David Joy wrote a great essay sort of about this, but it was about the death of the hunting campfire. Right. He's what they would call in NPR circles, an avid hunter.

Yeah. which my dad would call a hunter. But he had this great essay about the people sitting around the fire and how every year there's less and there's no one replacing them. And I remember I sent it to my dad. I was like, this is my buddy David. I thought you might enjoy this. And my dad's response was in like disbelief, you know that guy?

Like I was like, yeah, I fucking met Adam Sandler, dude. But like this is the guy. Right. We should have David Joy on to discuss this. That's like the perfect person who I bet has thought about this and thought about how like defining masculinity as a hunter is bullshit, but at the same time, boys are attracted to, you know, guns and death and all that. So like, and as a writer, I'm certain he's thought about that because he hunts with women,

but at the same time he knows that like boys at that age, you know what I mean? Well, yeah, so there's a dude named Stephen Ronella, who's a huge hunt. I guarantee your dad fucks with him too. He's got this thing called. He's a pod, right? Yes, I did. And that's what I was about to say. He's huge in the hunting world.

Meat Eaters. His company is pot. and all this he's got he had tv shows and shit he's like a big you know he's a big feller in the outdoorsman world and like one of the biggest he goes on rogan all the time they talk about shooting elk with bows and stuff hell yeah dude anyway yeah i did his podcast and like a couple of different people like buddies of mine like texting me or it's like hey my dad texted me and said hey i heard you little gay buddy on meat eater the other day whatever like that he thought it was a podcast for sucking dick i guess

Well, millennials are irony poisoned. Part of us going down this, part of it is like, yes, we were told to go to school. We were told to get in touch with our feelings. We were told not to be toxic, and we listened, which maybe that was our generation's mistake. We were the first group of men to listen to the women. But it's hit for myself too hard. This is really hitting. We should just do this all the time.

Oh, but like we also know how dumb it is. Right. Like the internet and MTV and us communicate with other people like, it was like the first time men got together and had a, like the funny men had the biggest voice, right? So like there's the macho dudes beating up the nerds and all that and blah, blah, blah. But as the internet and comedy and all that expounded it, people realize like, oh, we all think this is stupid. When that, you know, Tim Allen. Oh, oh, oh, remember that? Of course, yeah.

He was ultimately making fun of it. Right. But now he's our dad's favorite comedian and we're huge pussies. And it's, I mean, dude, Rogan. Rogan is undeniably one of the most successful theater acts, whatever, not theater like he's in theaters. He's in the arts. Right. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Right. He is, by any definition of the metric, according to 80s men, a huge queer. Well, he's in the martial arts, too. Like huge. What? I mean, he is. I'm not trying to shit on. You remember karate kids?

Of course. I'm not trying. I don't think comedy's... Cobra Kai's gay? I don't think so. I don't think comedy is by the old definition of that word either. My point is like, this is all theater. Right.

And going back to what I was saying earlier, right now the... John Wayne, gay. The lucrative aspect of that theatric, whatever, is just on the right. Right. I don't know why. We got to do it. Let's do it. Yeah.

Let's take roids, dude. Organic roids. Dying to take some. Listen, I'll do steroids. Me too. K3 steroids? Yeah. Whatever.

We'll accidentally get it. What's the opposite of testosterone? Estrogen. We'll accidentally get estrogen. Grow some sweet tits. Yeah, right. I do drink vegan protein checks. They're very good.

Well, you said kind of on that note about that is in, it's on the right in the comedy world now and this whole thing, which has emerged since after we got into comedy, like, you know, only in the past few years. Well, you were kind of talking about yesterday, we don't have to get into the whole thing, but you told a story about being with some younger comics, and you sort of got, like, ragged on for saying that cops don't hit, basically. Yeah. Like, that was pandering, woke shit to call cops dickheads or whatever.

And I was just saying, I just cannot believe that this has actually happened. Like I can't, you know what I mean? Because, especially I haven't started in Tennessee and everything like we all did. I mean, we've talked about before, but it's like that was always the shit we were doing back then. And back then it's like, you can get you boot off stage and stuff by certain people or other other comics. But I goddamn, I can't believe you fucking did that abortion thing or whatever. And now it's hat. I just can't believe we're at a place where like, you know, fuck Jesus kill babies.

It's like hack, woke, mind virus, gay shit or whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it was. We were edgy as fuck, man. He's never thought that would happen. Yeah. And that's like Bill Hicks, you know, the progenitor, he was doing the type of shit.

You know what I'm saying? That's the type of shit he was doing, going after God and stuff like that in Texas. Yeah. Nobody's like Bill Hicks was a woke queer. Nobody's saying that. I think Bill Hicks copycats did a lot of that in the comedy world specifically. It got so, because like not for us because we came up in Tennessee, but if you came up in Brooklyn or L.A. during all that, I think it's like, man, I've heard this take 75 times this week.

week. I mean, that's definitely true. And, you know, there's nothing to be done about that. No, I mean, I definitely noticed, like, moving to L.A. And, you know, at the time when I first moved out of here, I had a bit about, like, Confederate monuments and stuff like that, you know. And I would just get the impression that, like, L.A. crowds and stuff, they were kind of like, oh, so the Confederacy don't hit for you? Like, yeah, buddy. That's, like, the very bare minimum. You know what I mean?

Like, that's not, are we supposed to be impressed by that? Like, yeah, you're right. These guys want a cookie for not being right. Exactly, exactly that. I get that impression. These guys want a cookie just for not being racist. Top YouTube comment on the view appearance. Appearance on the view.

Yeah. I get that impression from L.A. It's all the time. Sure. And for the record, we did not want a cookie. We wanted a lucrative book deal. Yeah. We already had one.

Yeah. We wanted the adulation of millions. I wanted a cookie. Or also would have accepted a cookie. A cookie. Invited to the cookout. Invited to the cookout would have been cool, too. Yeah.

Yeah, it would have had. We have got that. Yeah, we have. Yeah, man. I mean, the crisis of masculinity on the left is a headline from like 2010. And it's just coming to roost. You know what I mean? Like this was a thing sociologists and not journalists.

What am I trying to think? Talking heads have been talking about for about 10 or 15 years. Yeah. And it's now becoming, you know, a bigger issue. But it's just like the, I don't, I mean, I know 13-year-olds are, R-worded as fuck. Everybody knows that. For sure.

You know, like. Well, what do they like? But still, it's just hard for me to, I try to think, like, when I was 13, would this have hit for me? No, because I was a fat kid. I'm specifically talking about when I see Andrew Tate tweet, tweet shit, like, what kind of, what kind of gay loser of a man likes food? You know what I mean? Like, that whole thing?

He's like calling food gay. Like steak is gay? You might have thought it was funny. Like, what the? fuck are we talking about like i don't i don't know about you all that when i was people i can't get over i don't understand it even when i was 13 well it is pretty tender when i was 13 like and dead george carlin and bill hicks were my favorite comics you know what i mean like obviously i like some dumber shit too but like when i was a kid i was a real big comedy nerd and like

carlin and hicks were like especially when i found out hicks were from the south those were like my dudes and I feel like those two dudes are such the antithesis of fucking Andrew Tate that I would have been that there's no way it would have hit for me is what I'm saying right let me tell you who would have hit for you and he is hitting for him and he might be one to flip it around and I don't want to put anyone on a pestle and no one deserves this pressure frankly Shane Gillis might be the dude yeah yeah yeah because you see that guy call everything gay you see that guy say I got a Fox News dad that's what you want but a Fox News mom is horrible like you see all these jokes he has about their lives, like about a 14-year-old's life. He was telling

stories about what it was like playing college football or being in the Army briefly, both of which he quit. And it's like they really identify with this guy. But then you see him go after Martin Screlly. You see him hang out with some of the people we're talking about, but roll his eyes at him. He can't help but make comments. And that's sort of the Bill Burr approach. You know what I mean? Yeah. But he's not going to lead with it. Because he can't. It won't work. if you lead with it. I don't know. You've you heard the joke he does

where he's talking about his family members with Down syndrome and how much they love women and tities and stuff and he's like, I'm not saying being gay is a choice but everyone I know who can't think fucking loves pussy. Yeah, and then he does that great impression. That one murdered

Andy so hard that she fell off the couch when he did the eyes. Well, I've been saying lately, I've been saying lately because what y'all have done to my algorithm, I assume you've seen them too. I've been seeing a lot of gay Down syndrome people. Oh, they're out there.

On Instagram. So, and then people in the comments, of course, because Instagram comments is fucking wild. They got so wild, so quick. Wild. And so the people in the comments of these are always talking about how this is like, you know, Downs abuse and stuff. To let them be gay? Yeah.

On the Downslow. Yeah. Yeah, they're on the Downslow. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I bet like four. People listen to us got that. Because they, because these people think that they, you know.

Can't choose it. Right, that they're being forced to be gay or whatever by their mamma. I don't know. You know how mammoths are always making people be gay. Dude, it would be so funny if they were. If it was like, listen, I'm not going to make him have sex. That would be abuse. But I'm getting him in the drag.

I know. They'll only suck a dick if it's shaped like a dinosaur if they don't want to do it. You know what I mean? Like they're picky eating. They have to, they only do what they like. Yeah, I'm with you. I want to go back to one day before we move on. And I think this ties into Gillis.

Who, by the way, speaking of Gay and Downs, have you seen him tell the story of the guy who doesn't know lady boys are men and insist that they take him to the show? So he's with a group and the group's on vacation in that part of the world. I think it was Thailand. And he's like, got these pamphlets. And he's like, Lady boys, sexy. And he's like, I want to go.

and they're like, okay, but so you know, it's men, and he's like furious. He's like, no, it's not. Right. These are sexy women. So they take him, and then one of them as part of her show, it's towards the end. I mean, he's having a great time. He's loving it. And then one of them does the show, she transforms back into he during the song.

It's like a song about how hard it is to be a woman and takes up the makeup. Artistically, I get the choices. The kid is crestfallen. dumbfounded, furious. I want to leave. Why are they doing this? That song ends. That's the next to last song.

The next one is like 12 of them on stage. Just completely back to it. Just completely flip back to I'm right back into it and they're women. Yeah. So great. Yeah, because they got them, well, never mind. Yeah. They got memories that weren't just fine, right?

I think so. Okay, yeah, because I thought you might sound like they were a goldfish for a second there. All right. Labradors. There's a quick tangent. Okay. You know they say memory of a goldfish? Like, people say that.

He's got the memory of a goldfish. Yeah. It's memory don't hit. Because it's like a thing, and I don't think it's actually true, but it's like a thing. It's not true. Right. But people think that goldfish don't have a short-term memory. They're like Drew Barrymore and that Adam Sandler movie or Leonard and Memento, right, that goldfish are like that.

I was thinking, I don't know why I was thinking of goldfish. I didn't even get high yesterday. But like yesterday, I was just thinking about how wild that would be if they, if that is what happens, they can't form new memories. Yeah. Because every 15 seconds, they're like, oh, what's going on? Oh, this water feels pretty good. Holy fucking shit.

Look at that castle. Well, that, or like, I'm in a prison. Yeah. Oh, right. Well, that's why we made it up. Yeah, I'm in a prison. What's going on here? Everything's going to go.

I'm in a fucking bridge. Just over and over on a loop. I think you're right, Drew. That's what's happening in the goldfish's mind the whole time. We made it up so we didn't feel like we were torturing them. Right. That's the onus of that in my opinion. Well, people say fish can't even feel pain and stuff, so it's okay.

okay to eat them and that ain't care either right yeah they also say they're like i mean i guess they can identify pain receptors and shit but i'm saying i don't that's not actually true it's well then pita's like well they're just like uh chick how do they say it fish can feel just as much as chicken i'm like so you're telling me i can eat chicken right right it's just easier for us to believe it boy you talk about some people that need to be harassed online as pita yeah no i was i was about say if you start digging into like the wild ass shit that plants are capable of doing right yeah you might start thinking you ought not be eating them either. I want to make grass screams. Let's just eat them all. Grass creams. That's right. It does.

I made that point to one Peter Ravello one night in this town when he was out here doing our Comedy Central stuff. And I don't think I've ever made a human being angrier. By saying what I just said to you? Yeah. Why? He was like, that is so utterly ridiculous. You're reaching so far, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, well, is he vegan? Vegetarian. Oh. And I was like, well, this is how you sound when you talk about fish, so fuck off. Right. Yeah. I feel like veg. vegetarians, so he still eats like eggs and shit like that? As far as I know.

Jeez. Because I feel like, you know, with the stuff that they do to cows and chickens to make them have eggs, like, it's rough on them. So like to me, if you're vegetarian and not vegan, it's kind of like being an undecided voter. I'm like, pick a fucking lane. You know what I mean? Pete. I mean, I don't know, because people say these vegans out here, you know, when they're not, when they're not entirely insufferable, they will say that, Like, even if you don't, you just go part-time gay, right?

Part-time vegan, right? Not full-time. Like, if you eat meat once or twice a week instead of every single day, that still, from their perspective, helps. Now, of course, I ain't doing that either. It ain't a meal if it ain't claimed something's life. As far as I'm concerned, I can't help it. It's just how I am.

I do that sometimes. In order to live, we have to kill something. I mean, it'd be better for you, too. Yeah, right. And people are trying to feel better about that. And I acknowledge that, you know, a cow having tears in its eyes as you murder it. it's different than cutting a plant, but that plant is alive.

And it's like, oh, what about consciousness? It's like, well, all right, now we've got to get into a whole debate about whether fish are conscious. What about shrimp? Do they fucking know anything? You know what I mean? Dude, shrimp don't know shit, bro. Shrimps is bugs.

They bugs. I'd eat a bug. I did it, but we do. We eat water bugs all the time. I saw, there was a, it went kind of viral. I've seen a mosquito burger yesterday. I don't know about that. Instantly.

The people eating it didn't have anything. else. Are you, you're being serious right now? Yeah. How many mosquitoes would you have to kill? 600,000. Are you, you're not doing a thing? This is real. I'm not doing a bit. 600,000 mosquitoes makes one Skeeter burger? Skeeter burger. It's in this part of Africa where number one, they don't have access to a lot of food, if you can imagine, and also a shitload of mosquitoes. But they also got iPhone 14s and an internet connection? I think they made this full westerners. No, dude, this was a documentary crew showing this. It wasn't them like FaceTiming themselves doing fucking mosquito burgers.

But like, yeah. We out here. Hey. But anyways, yeah, so like they, and this particular part of Africa, like it's stereotypical that like, yeah, mosquitoes being Africa, but theirs is like even worse. So to try to combat that and to add protein to their diet because apparently 600,000 mosquitoes, eventually you do get some protein. They catch them all, and then

they moosh them into what looks like a piece of burnt sausage from Hardee's. Anything we need to stop this, I would like to. Okay, well that's it. They grill them up and eat them. Do they put them, like, do they put like some kind of, like, weird, you know,

half-eaten dirt root thing on top of it? And then what, like, a moldy bun and then a steak knife shove through the top of it, you know what I mean? Like bistro style. So I pours liquid cheese all over their Skeeter burger at the end of it. If they had liquid cheese, I'd be furious. I mean, they definitely don't.

But I'm just, you know, I'm just making a burger. These feet fucking breweries out here need to be stopped. Like, I just went to one in Charlottesville. And I'm not going to name it because I'm about to shit talking a little bit. It wasn't that bad, but it was just like every single one of them is now. Do you know what I mean? You walk it's like in what used to be a warehouse. Everything's an IPA.

It's all industrial-looking. And they're, yeah, they're serious of shit, IPA stuff. They got all the same food options. They're real proud of their burgers. The burger comes out. It's this goddamn tall for no reason. Got a machete through the top. No reason.

Yes, huge stick to the top. It's served on a cutting board again for no reason. Like the fries you got are in their own little miniature fry basket thing. That don't not hit for me. It's just all, but it's all. It's the same. And then the thing is like, the burger itself was like, Like, it was fine.

It wasn't bad. Once I pulled the knife out and smushed it down real far so I could fit it into my mouth, like you're supposed to be able to with a burger. It was like, it wasn't bad. It didn't not hit. Right. But the whole thing is, it's like, cost you 40 bucks. What the fuck?

It's just, it's an epidemic. Steak and shake is better. I guarantee it. Yeah, right. Like, breweries, as a concept, hit for me. They've just gotten way out of hand in this country. There's a sameness to them now, which is sort of ironic because to me, to me the onus on creating that culture was,

damn, don't it suck, that you can only get Miller-Light, Guinness, and one other beer, no matter what, in America. Whereas if you're in Germany or some other place in Europe, each town has their own brewery. And when people figured out, people would be into that. It was like, hell yeah. And then whatever, it's like they all copied each other now. It's all the same.

Or it's so different that it's insane. Yeah. You know, like, this was made out of pineapple. They're just sports bars for people who read. Yeah, or like board games to play trivia. I think they're just sports bars now. And I like all those things. I think they're just sports bars now.

Yeah. Just like, I don't know what the difference is. While being pissed off at this burger, I watched Tennessee beat Alabama. Go balls. College basketball. Yeah, we beat the shit out of them. Hey, I want to circle back on something because it's been going through my man. I want to ask you guys this.

I think, first of all, this is the first question? Is this true? to be looked up to, I guess we'll say, by teenage boys in a masculine type way, you got to project strength or success, a lot of it. Right. Or getting pussy. Yeah. Yep.

Or money. Yeah. Or shooting stuff. Well, I'm out. Yeah, me too. Or shooting stuff. What of those things? What in-road could you take and.

and still be quote unquote of the left. And like Russell Brand, for example, was getting pussy. Right. And then we found out he was taking that pussy. Like he wasn't getting it. Like Pepe. Like Pepe. Exactly.

Thank you. I blanked on Pepe for some reason. But yeah, you came through. But do you see what I'm saying? Yeah. Playboy guy. Dead. You Hefner.

Hefner was masculine. Men looked up to him. And for his time, he was super progressive. Then we found out, probably pretty raping. Also, there was things that are problematic, according to the left today, like he had 22-year-old girlfriends, which they can burn me at the stake. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Right. I mean, God damn, 22, you know. I mean, it's weird. It is weird, and I wouldn't do it. But that's still an adult. You're allowed to be weird. Right, yeah, exactly. And she's allowed to let him.

They can vote, go to war, show the butthole. It's her body. She used what to do with it. So what is the end road there? You could do maybe hunting and, like, match it with conservation. Yeah. I think that's it. Hunting?

Like if you were in, I know we're not, but maybe there could be a hunter who's really in the conservation. I'm just trying to like, how do we do it? Not we necessarily. How does anybody do it? This is why it won't work. I've thought a lot about this. Right.

I would love to hear your stuff. Are there other enros? You can talk and shit. Sports and talking shit like you were saying earlier. Anthony Jelznik comes to mind when I think of this and he talks shit. Right. Well, that's all I got. I mean, that's kind of what we do.

I get my whole arsenal out here and start shooting guns. or something, but I don't know anything about them. I could pretend to. But we'd have to talk shit about other, quote, unquote, strong men. That's what we'd have to. You have to do you have to, get that. Is it Cat Williams? Yeah.

Well, I mean, I can't be, you know, I can't be Cat Williams either for obvious reasons. Also, he got pussy. He's a puss. He's a pimp. That's true. Everybody knows he's a pimp. Was it? No, I think it was on P. He managed the pussy.

Yeah. And maybe it was Mark, you know, I can't keep the shit straight. but I was telling some of y'all recently about, I heard Chad Daniels talk about opening for Kat Williams on a podcast years ago, like before the Pimp Chronicles, right? But Kat was already headlining on the road, but he was not at all famous. Right.

And Chad was middled for him in like fucking Springfield, Missouri, or somewhere like that, right? Or maybe it was Oklahoma City. It was somewhere around there, right? Not somewhere with a lot of flavor, right? And he said Cat walked in a, And nobody in the crowd, it's an all white crowd, nobody knows who he is. He walks up to the stage with a full-length fur coat on, right?

A pimp came being escorted by two blonde bitches, right? Hell yeah. He gets dropped off on the stage, takes his pimp hat off, and Chad says, just fucking murdered for like an hour and 20 minutes, like, harder than he. He's, like, impossibly hard into a room full of white country papas who had no idea who he was and who he like openly antagonized by appearing the way that he did. And then he just destroyed because he's just so fucking funny. And good at talking shit.

Yeah. I was accidentally onto something. I can't be cat either. Nobody can. When I told that guy in the sauna, I think they're a bunch of pussies. Yeah. I stumbled on to something. I don't know what it is.

Right. It's talking shit. You're right. Right. But like, I don't know how to weave that into, you know, more. That's all I got so far. It's all we've come up with. Yeah.

Corey? Talk about Andrew Tate, can't read. He probably can't read. I mean, I'm... Did y'all... I'm off for that approach. And again, as you pointed out, like, I wasn't even thinking about it, but, like, it has, you know, worked for me in the past on taking those people and, like, kind of playing their own game against them. It is literally why I'm sitting here.

Like, being in a locker room and that being the only thing I was interested in is not letting them, you know, dog me. and then having to use humor because it could beat my ass is the only reason I got funny. Yeah. I said something about entertain not being able to read good. Did you know also at the same time? Well, you know what I thought, yeah, he don't words good. Did you know also at the same time,

kids is not learning how to read too? Yeah, I didn't know that because they're on their phones all the time or whatever. Well, actually, so I was looking at this area because I just found this out too. but I say teenagers are real into Andrew Tate and shit. The kids that ain't learning how to read are like my son's ages and younger. Yeah, if they're a teenager, you just say they can't read. Yeah, it's done. They just can't read.

Anti-intellectualism, man. It's running rampant. You'd think that, right? But apparently it's not really that. Because like, even Mississippi... Hat hits. Yeah, I think you, so I gave this to me in Austin. It's a Wooderson hat.

Anyway, even in Mississippi, Mississippi was 50th in the nation for childhood literacy match for like 80 years. So right in the middle, 50%. Did I say 50%? Number one in litter, though. I was doing a very dumb joke. 50 out of 50. And then I guess at some point, they were like,

we were to do something about this. And they actually made a concerted effort to fix it. And now Mississippi's 21st out of 21. So funny if you said 40. And ain't it funny? But still even that. Even 21st, you hear that. You're like, God damn, Mississippi.

Hell yeah, good for you. Because it is good for them. That's a huge improvement, but it's like they're barely above average now. But still, pretty good. All I'm saying is, I know at the same time, people are burning books and trying to ban books and shit, but I kind of think this is unrelated because even those people, nobody wants their kid to not be able to fucking read, right? And then like, if everything's fucking propaganda they do, I don't know. I think it's more to do with intellectualism makes them not push them as hard.

According to people who, like, study this shit and stuff. We didn't know you used the answer, I've been trying to get to it. Jesus, Craig God, man. According to people who, like, are experts and look into this shit. Yeah, well, who's to trust an expert? Right. Did you read something? Two main reasons, right?

One, a lot of people just want to blame entirely the COVID pandemic. These kids are in fourth grade now. We're in kindergarten and first grade. We're supposed to be learning how to read when COVID happened. And that was a fucking shit show. I could buy that actually. Which I was there. It was a shit show.

My kids already knew how to read with COVID. happen, but COVID, even in this school district here in Burbank, California, which is a hidden school district in not Mississippi, it was a fucking shit show, the COVID situation. So I know it was bad in like Louisiana and stuff. So I'm sure that is a factor. But also, did y'all know? You know, it's become like a cliche and stuff for people to be like, it was in the Incredibles too where people talk about like, they change math. Why would they change math? Right. Well, for the record, they did. And it do be like that. Because I look at Bishop's math or whatever now. And I'm like, I don't know what to tell you because I've never seen that shit

before. I know that's division. Maybe I can do this math. That would be so funny. If you're just like a natural savant at the new math that they didn't have when you were a kid. Guys, Clay. Because it's like, seen this new race. Sorry. But they, the math, it, again, you get the same answer, obviously. Math is math. But the way they teach them to do it is completely different than we were taught to do it. It's weird. Well, they did the same thing with reading in a lot of places, which I didn't know. You know, when we were kids, it was. phonics, right? Hooked on pahonics,

that's what they might say about somebody like Corey back in the day. Okay. Thank you. Sounded out. I was a reader. I said,

not what I thought you were going to say. I said people might. So they don't sound it out? I like dinosaurs. Yeah. Nice call back. Yeah. Call them gay.

All right. Yes. Yeah, sound it out. We're not sounding out anymore? Apparently, they went to a thing called balanced literacy, where I guess they used phonics. Well, because it is bullshit. No, it's not. It's not.

No, listen, I'm saying the word phonics ain't even phonetic, motherfucker. But, bro, part of phonics is teaching kids P and H together goes Fuh. Not Pah. Yeah, I hear you. That's what phonics is. Okay, but there's some things if you sounded out, it ain't right. Me and you have both tried to say Chinese last names using phonics, and it did not work. That's a different language.

We're not teaching them Chinese. Right, yeah. So, but, anyway, look, not yet. He was a reader. We used phonics. We used phonics for years and years to teach kids how to read. And the rate of, like, literacy proficiency was, like, 20% of, like, fourth graders, for example, were not proficient readers, 20%. And it stayed steady at 20% for, like, ever.

Yeah. Now, it's fucking 66%. It's, like, two-thirds. kids. So it's not working. Are not proficient. Exactly. Right. And I'd say it, about 10 years.

About 10 years ago, they were like, oh, Twimper. You know, we need people, we need kids reading gooder. We should do something about this. Maybe let's reevaluate this phonics thing. They started this thing called balance literacy. I'd never heard of this. This blew my fucking mind when I read this earlier. What this is is it's like, the whole idea is to make kids love reading, like, so reading

don't not hit for them. So they don't, they don't make it as much of a chore or as much of a, like, assignment. It's a fun experience. So they give these kindergartners to learn how to read. picture books and stuff and they tell them it's like no look at the pictures and what do you you know based on the pictures and the context what do you think these words might say and it's less about the sounds the letters make and it gets worse the thing i read said for example if there's a picture of a horse and the kid says is this word horse and the word is actually pony the teacher

in that scenario would go like get close enough or you know basically the same thing right and it's like that's literally the example it gave in the in the article I was reading and I was like that's the craziest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. I know that a horse and a pony, the things are kind of close, but the words ain't even remotely fucking close. Would you describe this movement as like an East Coast or elite? You know what I'm trying to say? Is this a left wing thing? Because I just became so conservative. I don't think I haven't felt this Republican since my car got broken into in San Francisco. I guess if there's good news about what they are.

after what has happened, as I understand it, they are going back to the old way now. They're abandoning that and going back to the old way. So hopefully it's like reversible and it'll be okay. It took them a decade to be like, hey, stop telling kids, pony means horrid. I know, dude. Okay, but like this doesn't make sense to me

because they're saying like, they're saying like they don't want reading to seem like a chore or whatever. Dude, when we were learning how to read, we read books that hit and it wasn't a chore. You know what I mean? Like, you start out with, you know, C-Spot Run or whatever, and those were fun for us. And then, like, in kindergarten, I'm reading, you know,

you're reading fucking Red Badge of Courage and shit, like all this stuff that's like a Harry Potter to the kids now. It's like, that's not a fucking chore. It's fun. You don't have to have a picture book. Just like, don't make them do a book report on fucking Oppenheimer. Just like let them read fucking, I don't know. Playboy.

The Playboy. Speaking of phonics and shit real quick, so we're going to go in a minute. Did y'all see that Elmo tweeted today? Hey, Twitter. this is Elmo. How's everybody doing? Did he say Twitter instead of X? No, that really is for me.

Hey, this is Elmo. How's everybody doing out there? And it became the number one trend in topic because everybody was quote tweeting and going like, I'm not going to lie to you, Elmo. I'm at the end of my fucking rope. Or like, things are pretty bleating on by the fucking screen. I'm at my fucking limit here, Elmo. Thanks for asking.

And that just really hit for me. Like, the internet really does it for me. Sometimes that really cracked me up. I do like when the internet gets it all in on one joke. Yeah, right. It was good. You guys didn't ask me about my hat. Go Chiefs.

Yeah. Go Chiefs. It's pretty neutral. I mean, honestly, yes, go Chiefs, because fuck the Niners. I feel, yeah, I might, you know. Well, it's hard for me because my... I like the writer, so I hate both those things. My college roommate.

I'm used to that. Good buddy Daniel. Coach Juan Jennings. I love Joanne Jennings. Corey, you may remember Joanne Jennings. Yeah. Catch a Hell Mary against the University of Georgia, beating Matthew Stafford in his last game against the balls.

But he plays for the Niners. Daniel and him are very close. And it's like, Daniel said me like... That was not Matthew Stafford. It was Aaron Murray. Yeah, who also hit... Matthew Stafford was like 2007, bro. Yeah, he was with the lines there.

I don't know. You know, we had so many wins. It's hard to... Yeah. And we had so many hitting quarterbacks. And they've got true. That's true. Two championships and stuff. Anyway.

So I do want Joanne to get a... I genuinely very much want Joan to get a Super Bowl, but not against us, dog. Yeah, I hear you. I'm going to watch it because it's the Super Bowl, but it don't have me, but I'm happy for you, though. Listen, I'll be in St. Louis and Indy in Virginia and D.C. coming up.com. Check it out and come to CB.

I'm going to be in San Luis Obispo the end of February. I'm going to be in San Diego next weekend. Ooh. And then I'm going to be in Denver and March. What the fuck? I'm going to St. Louis and Indianapolis in February. You're going to San Diego and St. Louis Obispo. Because they're paying you a lot more to come there.

I'll take your rate to go to fucking Saskatchewan right now. Yeah, I need to holler. Winnipeg. Anyway. I'll be in my living room watching the African Queen so you can just go to bonus Corey.com. That's my substack. Also listen to our other podcast, Putting On Airs, listen to Drew's podcast, Gravy Baby,

listen to Weekly Skews with Trey and Smart Mark. And thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you're going to do. Thank you, God bless you, good night and skew. Pussies. Fart. Pussy.

Pussy farts Oh, what the fuck is happening? No, stop. This is why we can't be men. I don't know what's happening. It sounds like choir music. I can't hear. Fuck.

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