wellRED podcast - #380 - Ed Larson Is Better Than Ever!
Episode Date: February 28, 2024This week the boys are graced with the presence of one of their goodest buddies, comedian Ed Larson! You may know Ed from Comedy Central, Killer Raccoons 2, his movie How America Killed My Mother, OR ...as the newest host on the cultural phenomenon that is Last Podcast on The Left! Ed and the boys discuss all the new and awesome things going on in his career, as well as their shared love of music and comedy! Yes, we also talked about Beyonce going country baby! HowAmericaKilledMyMother.com is where you can check out Ed's powerful film, and listen to him on Last Podcast On The Left and Brighter Side wherever you get your podcasts! TraeCrowder.com for tickets DrewMorganComedy.com for tickets MARCH 2ND CHATTANOOGA The Buttercream Dream will be making his in-ring debut! Grab tickets to the show at SCIwrestling.com BonusCorey.com for Corey's Substack and CoreyShirts.com for his merch! Love yall!
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They're the in the very first episode, very first practice of training camp,
Pac-Man ran out of gas in his E-class bends and broke down on the road.
That's so funny for a rich guy to do.
I know. I'm saying it's literally the fucking big-timer song.
He only put a quarter tank of gas in.
That's what happened.
He's got a sister.
He's still fly, though.
They're the liberal rednecks.
They like cornbread, but sex, they care way too much, but don't give a fun.
They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset,
but they got three big old dicks that you can suck.
What's up? Well, Red Nation, here we are. Look at this. And these fancy new climbs. I mean, we were here last week. Drew wasn't, though. This is your first time in the new studio, Drew. Well, I think I filmed a thing. I said for VH1 and Aaron was like, that's not a company anymore. I think I filmed the thing here like a year ago. It was one of those, like talking head things where they use you on multiple episodes. They asked me about American Gladiators. They asked me about Blockbuster. It was like a remember the 90s show. I know what it was. Whatever happened that I was. I was supposed to do.
do that and I couldn't because I was out of town, but would that ever come out?
You know that, man, this is such a comedian thing. If you've ever seen him, you're going to know
who I'm talking about, either of you. Okay. But everyone listens to me like, what are you even
saying? Do you know that fat Southern comic who grew up around black people? So he wears like
church black hats and he's pretty smooth for a white guy. And you can tell, even though he's
using vernacular, what is it, AABN, African-American?
Abonics?
They don't call it that in a while I don't think.
I don't know why.
You can tell he comes by it honest.
He's very funny.
He's pretty big in the black circuit.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
No.
I don't know you're talking about either.
He's not big, you know.
I want to meet him though.
If you've ever done a show with him, he is fucking cool.
He was on it the same day as crushing.
I mean, just in there murdering.
He posted a clip and I hit him up and I go, damn, where'd you get that clip?
I'd like some content, you know.
I spent some time on that.
And he was like, oh, my girlfriend just videoed that off of our big screen and knows how to make it look good, which seemed very him to me.
So it is out.
I don't even know what channel.
I was completely wrong about what channel.
Well, hire his girlfriend.
Yeah, there you go.
That's a good call.
That's a good point.
Can you do that for me, too?
You also could have at least just asked the guy what channel it was on or whatever.
You acted like the trail ran cold right there.
Okay.
No way to figure this out.
Name a channel and then I'll tell you how I would get it from that channel.
Spike.
Pluto.
No clue, no clue, no clue.
The production company would be the only route.
And I just haven't done that.
I need to.
I think it was called Remember the 90s?
Yeah.
You're like, I do, I do remember the 90s.
You remember the 90s?
This is our guest, Ed Larson, everybody.
He's actually, he's been on the show before.
You got remember.
Once before, a couple years ago.
Eddie, yeah.
Yeah.
It's good to be back and your beautiful new digs.
I like it.
Yeah. How are you doing, buddy?
I feel good.
How's a married life treating you?
When you were on the show before you, that was not the case.
I was not married yet. I was not married. I was engaged for a while.
Same woman? Same woman. Same woman. She's still a woman, too. It's great.
Really good.
I mean, that's what you're into.
But yeah, we're married. I love it. Surprisingly smooth.
Yeah?
Yeah, no, it's, we have had very, no disasters, really.
She's great. Bingles fan, right?
Bangles fan, she's from Cincinnati, you know, and I, that, that's,
That town is surprisingly decent.
I like Cincinnati a lot.
Yeah, I know it is.
I like the Beatles too.
Cincinnati is, I think, underrated by the general public because I feel like I think,
maybe I'm wrong, but I think people in other places think Cincinnati don't hit, I think.
Yeah.
But it's Ohio and the South and most people are like, both those things.
But it's actually pretty rad.
Yeah, it's the best parts of Ohio and the South in my opinion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, you get all the good stuff at Kentucky, which is the booze.
And then a little bit of danger.
A little bit of danger.
I mean, there's certainly dangerous parts of Cincinnati.
And it used to be worse, because remember when the Bengals used to get arrested, like, every week?
When Pac-Man Jones is on the team?
So I was just like, oh, this place is a disaster if they're arresting the football players.
We cut to the rest of the Bengals, and they're like, why did you say Bengals?
It was just Pac-Man.
I remember they were on hard knocks one year that Bengals when Pac-Man was there.
And in the very first episode, very first practice of training camp,
Pac-Man ran out of gas in his E-class bins and broke down on the road.
That's such a...
That's so funny for a rich guy to do.
I know.
I'm saying it's literally the fucking big-timer song.
Like, you know...
He only put a quarter tank of gas in his...
That's what happened.
He's got assistance.
He still fly, though.
His assistants have assistance.
Man, it don't matter how rich you are.
Richer you are, the least likely you are to remember gas.
But that's why you pay somebody to remember it for you.
I used to work at IAC Interactive Corporation.
You know that you guys lived in New York at some point?
You did.
I don't think you lived today.
both did. He did for a while. Corey did briefly. I have not lived there. So you know the place right
across from the Chelsea Pears? It looks like it's going to take off. College Humor was in there.
I used to be the mailroom guy there and it was owned by Barry Diller. And I don't know if you
all remember who Barry Diller is, but he's the guy who they based Monty Berndton. Yes, Phyllis
Dillis. No, he wishes. But he's married to Diane von Fursterberg. They based two off?
Monty Burns, the Simpsons. Oh, yeah. Because he sold Fox to Rupert Murdoch all the way back
in the day. And he's just like one of those like billionaire type dudes. But he used to drive
this scooter from the docks
because he lived in Jersey, he would take
a boat across the river, and they would
hop on like a Vespa, and his Vespa
used to always run out of gas. Hold on, dude.
When you were working in the millroom at this place,
the old tycoon
who inspired Montgomery Burns
was still there working?
How old was that guy? He got fired while, he was
very old. He got fired while I was working.
He got fired. Wait, how you fire that guy?
Who fires that guy? Well, the board
fired him and it was like Norman Schwartzcoff
was on the board so I just like get his mail
and shit. Holy shit. Wait
was the person that Smithers
was based on like was he real
and like work with that dude? He's very
closeted.
The, uh, his boat would have the boat boys
would show up every once in a while. It would just be
a bunch of like tight little boys.
Boat boys. And he was married to
Dianvon. The 90s group.
Yeah. You remember the 90s? Yeah.
The boat boys. Yeah.
With their thing, hit single, rocking you.
Well, that's all phenomenal.
Yeah.
So did you hang out with the boat boys?
Do you ever get on the boat?
You know, I never got on the boat, but I talked with the boys a couple of times because they would just show up and, you know, the mail room's like the first line.
How many boat boys did he have?
There was, I'm guessing four to six.
Four to six, boat boy?
Is it a rotating cast of boat boys?
You know, I don't, I never got too close to the boat boys.
Was it a rainbow coalition of boat boys?
He had some Puerto Rican boat boys.
No, yeah.
I think they were all, I'm pretty sure they're all white.
New it.
Construction worker.
Yeah.
In Indian.
In India.
Yeah.
Policeman.
Yeah.
Dude, so rich.
The boat boys was actually just the village people.
Yeah.
That was their second act.
Yeah.
But fuck that place.
It takes a village to keep a boat running.
Damn, dude.
That's wild.
That is super wild.
Yeah.
What's the most evil thing you saw?
I mean, they used to just make me throw out bodies.
Hooker of the children.
Yeah, right.
They used to make me throw out people's lunches if they put them in the wrong fridge.
That was the most evil thing they happened there.
Wow.
You ate them.
I mean,
I threw them out.
I ate a couple.
But like,
for the most part,
I would throw them out because I hated it.
Because the first day,
they were like,
you know,
he was like one of those like pretty boys who was covered in tattoos and like had
$10,000 glasses.
You know,
like one of those guys.
He was in charge of facilities,
you know,
making the place look nice.
And,
you know,
and it's like,
if you had like a plant that wasn't sanctioned,
I had to like off the plant,
you know,
like,
You were the enforcer?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was the enforcer.
It was very horrible job.
Sunglass boy didn't do that.
He made you do his dirty work.
They just sit on the boat mostly.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is the primary job description of the boat boys.
Sorry.
Be a boy on a boat.
My bad.
Boy got in my head because of the boat boys, and I was trying to be derogatory towards
the tattoo $10,000 glasses guy.
Oh, yeah.
So I just called him that.
Yeah, he used to make me dress into like a three-piece suit and like build desks and
shit. It was a fucking horrible job.
What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was...
I think you were a boat boy and you didn't
know it. I fucking hated it. I was too
fat and I couldn't, I could barely live in
that place and I... Pondoon Boat Boy. Yeah,
Fontein'bought boy. I would love to
what a job.
Yeah. To live on a pontoon.
Well, I know you got to get your butt railed out at some point by an old
living corpse of a plane. I like Q-tips.
You know, I'll see you're clean.
You gotta get clean. One of our top
fans last of the 5.0s on Twitter
Gay man, calm down now to hear him tell it.
But apparently back in the day, him and an old pass lover owned a house pontoon boat together
and used to just have wild, wild, red-ass, gay-ass parties.
He's his, that he is the Vim diagram and it's shaped like a butthole when it comes to like the redneck gay overlap.
I didn't know there were pontoon boats that you could live on.
He could live on any boat.
Thank you.
It's a houseboat, but I think most houseboats are technically poncune.
Pontoons, right, in terms of how they are built?
That's definitely a design for sure.
It's like some of them especially are basically just like a trailer that's sort of
seated on two, you know, pontoons.
Yeah.
I guess it's not a pontoon boat, but it is, though.
I always learned so much.
Not all pontoon boats are houseboats.
Right.
Well, not all houseboats are pontoon.
It doesn't matter.
We're getting into weeds here.
Y'all had some, first of all, I wanted to say, Ed, you got some shit going on lately, right?
You've been, you've had, there's some big news in Ed, well, some of these people probably
are already recognizing you, like, oh, shit.
Look who it is because I've been third mic and you've been found you've found yourself
Yeah third mic on like one of hands down the most popular podcasts of all time
I think it's very it's very surreal I'm still waiting for you know something bad to happen to me
And like anvilafol on my head talking of course about you're here today
Talking of course about the last podcast on the left
You didn't those guys go way back right back to like New York and so Henry and I were
college roommates in Tallahassee, Florida.
Holy shit, I didn't know that.
Yeah, if I did, I forgot.
Our sketch group, Murder Fiss, formed in
Tallahassee. And then we all moved
to New York together. Yeah. And so I've been,
you know, Henry and I have been writing partners
for over 20 years now. That guy's
as cool as a fucking cucumber. He's so great.
Yeah, it's very smooth. It's very intimidating
how funny he is. First time I met him,
it was like a steak dinner situation.
And I think it was like on the way home. I was pretty high.
And I was like,
oh, that guy was in Wolf of Wall Street.
And it was like, it was,
So funny, I was like, damn, we were talking about the business and he didn't casually drop.
You know, I just think that could have been because he was distracted about from the business talk by me professing that COVID wasn't going to amount to shit and everybody needs to shut the fuck up about it.
No one would ever know that.
You tell that story all the time.
I know.
It's because, you know.
It's your confessional.
Yeah, it is.
I just.
Well, it was like three days out from hell, right?
Yeah.
If that, dude.
If that.
And I was sitting at this dinner with these guys.
The first time I met, yeah, Henry, everybody else there I knew.
But there was a bunch of us at a steakhouse at Burbank.
And I was just on this tirade about, like, fuck, it ain't going to be shit.
Cline flu wasn't shit.
Fucking SARS wasn't shit.
This ain't going to be shit.
These happen every four or five years.
Act like it's going to be a big deal.
Then nothing ever fucking happens.
And then cut to Leo and DiCaprio's co-star.
Okay, buddy.
Yeah, pretty much.
And smart Mark was there.
And this is why I should have known just to shut the fuck up.
because Mark was like, no, hundreds of thousands of people are going to die.
And it's going to be.
That's literally what he said.
He does say that a lot.
And I was like, I was like, I'm going to see it, motherfucker.
We'll find out.
But anyway, every time Henry has come up since then, I just saw him not long ago.
And, you know, of course, brought it up.
And, you know, he was super cool about it.
But that's one of the things in my head.
I'm like, in my head, I'm like, that's all anyone ever thinks about whenever they think.
You know.
I have one of those that I thought of earlier.
and now I'm so happy to circle back to it.
I don't know if it was when I met her,
but the last time I hung out with you and your wife
was a Bengals Chiefs playoff game a year or two ago.
Yes.
And Irvine invited me,
and I didn't know it was like a Bengals fan watch party.
So I just showed up in my Patrick Mahomes' ketchup shirt
that Corey had bought me.
And no one, like they weren't in gear
because these were very hip L.A.
A few people were, but I just didn't think
if we started drinking, I'm like hanging out with that,
I just started getting loud.
I'll, you know, I'm cheering.
And then at some point I'm looking around and I'm like, Irvine, am I the only cheese fan here?
And he's like, yeah, dude, these are all Bengals fans.
And I'm like, he's an Ohio guy.
You made me look like an asshole.
Oh, it's fine.
He's a Browns fan, though.
I'm a Dolphins fan, but he's a big Ohio guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, it's fine.
You know, you can hate on the Bengals.
You know, I kind of like them now because of my family.
But, yeah, it's good to hate on them.
Sure.
I'm not upset that I hate on the Bengals.
It was more like a guy that was invited by a guy that was invited.
You know what I mean?
invited.
We know what I'm saying, though.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
So, Travis brings friends everywhere, too.
What has that been like, uh, like that experience?
Because they, I don't know, the whole arc of it, again, you guys are college
roommates.
So you saw them explode into what that show became, which is, I'm so fascinated by any
show that does that.
Like, they went from relative obscurity, right?
To like, again, one of the biggest podcasts of all time.
And then years later, now you've come on board with it.
Like, what's that whole trajectory?
Well, I've always been a part of the network.
Yeah.
You know, I've always had the brighter side on there.
And then before that, the first podcast on the network was Roundtable a Gentleman.
And that was Marcus, myself, Ben Kessel, Kevin Barnett, Holden McNeely, and Jackie Zabrowski.
And then Henry would show up all the time.
And he was basically the seventh member that, you know, wasn't a member, but he was a member.
And then they broke off and did their podcast, which were like, good luck fellas.
And then it just fucking.
and blew up because of they're so good at it and no one's better than Marcus.
Yeah,
Marcus is like,
you know, Henry's the funniest dude in the world, but Marcus is like, first of all,
he's very funny,
but he's also like,
just brilliant and well researched and like,
he's like the kind of guy where like,
I'll walk in the studio office and he'll be reading like three books at once.
Like he has like one of those like stands that holds a book open and then he's like
holding one in his hand and then there's like Wikipedia shit on his computer.
And I'm like,
how do you concentrate like that?
It makes no sense to me.
Candlelight?
Yeah.
He's a quail.
Quill.
Yeah.
It's dead or adderall.
Yeah.
And, you know, so they're just such hard workers.
And it's, I think it just shows that, you know, a few people are really into the
edutainment and they go the extra mile and like, they go past the Wikipedia page.
And every episode's based off a book or two books or three books.
And there's like, now it's like three researchers around the show.
Yeah.
I'm handed like a dossier, but like, 10 minutes before I go on, I'm like, I'll do my best.
I don't know.
Like, you know.
Do you feel a lot of pressure stepping into that?
role or is it like you've known you're there your old friends you've known for so
old friends and so like I you know there's a little less pressure and like I don't know if like
I think like one thing I learned a long time ago was and I'm sure you fellas all feel it as well
is you know sometimes you just don't have a choice but to kill you know like it's like oh well
it's like if I don't kill then everything's fucked and you know so it's like you have to and so I
just you know I didn't even wouldn't even worry about the pressure I would just
concentrate so hard on telling jokes.
You know,
it's like,
it's not an option to do bad right now.
Well,
I don't generally recommend anyone
read any comments,
but Reddit fucking loves you,
dude.
Yeah.
They're like super on board with,
you know,
like a lot of like,
I didn't know how this would go,
but this has been phenomenal.
I love him.
Yeah,
well,
that's very nice.
And I've heard,
I have heard that.
I stay off of the comments.
I'll read comments on my own posts,
but,
um,
I feel that's always damaging and just,
you know,
I'm put your head down and work type of guy.
you know, rather than that kind of stuff.
You seem like a blue-collar lunch pail type guy.
I was forever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For, you know, I was a chef for many years.
You know, I used to, when I first moved to New York, I was working like 60 hours a day.
60 hours a week, rather, 60 hours a week.
60 hours a week.
Oh, boy hours.
You know, comedy at night and, you know, I was drinking until, you know, it slept two hours.
But so now it's translated well into my life.
And, you know, I used to work with Jeff Ross all the time, you know, and I've, I've,
Your cousin.
Help my cousin.
And I help him run his business.
And I recently stepped back from that.
And, you know,
and I'm just taking on the last podcast network full time.
And it's fucking fun, man.
That's great.
We got a new studio.
It's like,
it's like a fun little factory in there.
You sleep in three hours now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a lot of fun.
It's a lot of fun.
You got like some segments.
You guys playing stuff or so.
Yeah.
People don't know.
I didn't even know I was going to be here.
today and then I ended up being able to.
So they've got plans and I don't know them.
Well, you know, keep it in line with his hard worker lunch pal mentality and what he does on
last pod.
He was like, hey, what's the topics?
And me and Corey were like, oh, right.
Topics.
It'd be a good thing to know.
Trade normally just says some stuff and we hope for the best.
Off top, the first topic we wanted to discuss.
And this is, as you may or may not know, we have, we had like a sort of auxiliary
podcast called Bubba Shot the podcast where we talked about 90s country.
music. We talk about country music all the time.
Cool. All country, old school country, we do it all.
Well, arguably the biggest star
in the world, definitely one of the five biggest stars in the world.
Beyonce has gone country.
Look at them boots. And
I guess we just wanted to, Corey and I were like, hey,
let's just talk about that, you know. It's a
monumental thing. First of all, I mean,
there's been plenty of black country music stars
and there's been plenty, I shouldn't say plenty,
and there's been plenty of pop stars
crossover or try to cross
over. Yeah. I don't
know if anyone in the pop star world,
has been this successful this quickly.
No.
Because if you think about it, if you say,
oh, what about like Casey Musgraves?
Really, that was the other way around.
Casey was a country star who crossed over the top.
That's normally how it goes.
That's what Taylor Swifted to.
I'm about to say that's like,
that's way more typical than the reverse.
I feel like, it's like country stars
try to make the transition in the mainstream.
I mean, like Chenai Twain in the 90s was doing the same thing.
I mean, even Sturgle kind of left a little bit.
Yeah, with that rock album.
And then, you know, so.
but he did the one after that was country.
Bob Dylan kind of sort of went country.
I don't remember the album, but it was really like more folk.
I mean, you're right along.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, because that was the one where he did the duo with Johnny Cash,
girl at the North Country.
That's a great song.
Oh, so good.
But it is really more of a folk song, and it is an old folk number.
Some people would call Springsteen's Nebraska country-esque, but I think it's more folk.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of people who have done it even.
I said that now.
I'm like, wait, hasn't he?
Leon Russell.
not as like famous as them
but Leon was you know
a piano man and he did one of my favorite
concept albums ever which is Hank Wilson's
back which I loved
so good I just got it on vinyl actually
I've got it on vinyl it's great man
hell yeah know who did it
the best probably forever
and probably the first person to do was Ray Charles
yes it's a great point
yeah he did it he put out like a double
record and it was like in the height of his career
and it was everyone's like don't do it and it was great
and everyone loved it and also a lot of people were like
well, how did he pull that off?
And at that time, and maybe you know so about it,
as we've discussed this a lot,
the industry, especially in Nashville,
split their records into what they would call,
you know, black records and hillbilly records,
but they would use the same players.
So a lot of these cats that played on that record for Ray Charles,
they play country records all the time.
Yeah.
Because a lot of those musicians back then,
the studio musicians had to learn how to play both.
And there's a lot of overlap from that time.
of songs having an R&B version that did well and a country version that did well.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a whole episode on the first season of Cocaine and Rhinestones,
the country music podcast, that talks about that.
That also remained the thing.
I was about saying that also remained the thing.
I guess maybe they don't do it anymore, but yeah, in the 90s, like, boys to men and all for one.
Like, John Michael Montgomery would cover their songs.
Brian and Guy and Gary Allen.
Yeah, God must have spent a little more time on you was a boy band.
song, yeah, in sync, and then it got
covered, and then they kept it
up into the alts, even with some butt rock
because I know for a fact that lips of an
angel got a, got a Nashville
country cover. Yep.
I cannot wait to listen to that on the way home.
I did not know that.
Awful. Totally destroys
an angel. Totally destroys
the integrity of the genius of Hender.
I think when Hilly
and Tim McBohpast did their thing, it kind of
exploded the whole thing. The audacity to cover
fucking Hender, you know, but
yeah. I've probably had too much caffeine, and
I'm a trade crowder fan.
That is one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
No, the Beyonce thing, I knew, I'd heard she, I'd heard she was doing it.
There's two songs now.
Okay.
Well, so, see, I'd heard she was doing it, but as they are aware, but I haven't, I never told
you this before, I have, I've contracted what I call early onset pap all.
And in this context, what I mean by that is, I haven't listened to new music in probably
six or seven years. He refuses. I will send it to him and he'll just be like,
I'm not going. I've just turned into my dad way earlier and I thought I would.
You know, it's like, I feel like back in the day everybody's dad or at least my dad. Actually,
I always say this, but my dad was not like that. Your dad liked my morning jacket. My dad, that's
all dad's like my morning jacket. Right. Yeah, but he loved like, my dad was not. And Wilco, right. He was not,
he was not like that at all. He stayed up. And you're not honoring him. Yeah, you're right. But anyway,
I don't know what happened. I just don't listen to new shit anymore. So I don't
Like, I knew Beyonce was doing it, and I heard that, and I was like, that's neat.
I'll never hear that.
But then I...
You know, I heard it on, like, trends?
Then I went, then I did, uh, I did Karen Hunter's show, which is on Sirius Sallet
radio on Urban View.
And, uh, you know, I'm the only white guy on this show and they're talking about
Beyonce.
And I don't, I don't know if they had me on because of this, whatever.
Like, you know, you know, you know country shit or whatever.
Yeah.
They were talking about beyond, and they played some of it.
And so I got exposed to it, like, without even knowing it.
was going to happen, and I was like genuinely pretty impressed by it.
Because they start, and I was like, hold on, that's Beyonce?
Because it sounded pretty legit to me.
But also really good.
Like avoided cliches.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
While doing enough cliches to be pop country.
Because that's like a really fine line in pop country right now.
To be pop country, you sort of have to hit certain cliches.
But if you do it poorly, even to pop country fans, you're going to be like, because
Pop country fans loved fancy like Applebee's, but they all knew it was goofy.
Yeah.
You know, they were like, they would defend it by being like, it's a fun song.
What are you mad about?
But they knew it was goofy.
It's not goofy.
It's really good.
Yeah, I don't really know.
Pop country is like one of the genres that I stay away from.
Yeah, it's horrible.
All country I'm into, I love, you know, like I love, you know, an old country.
You know, obviously, we listen to the highwaymen, you know, all those guys' careers, you know.
But, you know, the newer stuff, like, even pop country in the 90s, I.
kind of stayed away from.
Sure.
And even to this day, like, because my wife loves all that stuff.
And, you know, it's good.
But, you know.
Pop country in the 2000s and 2010s is arguably the worst thing that's ever been created
on Earth.
Yeah.
I would say pop country now, and this kind of opened the door for Beyonce, there's a lot of
trap beats.
There's a lot of hip-hop.
And EDM.
And EDM.
Marshmellers top the country charge.
Diplo's top the country charge.
And that's made it, you know, where there is like a window to do a bank.
It is kind of a banger.
The funniest video I've seen, it opens with the phrase,
This ain't Texas.
And there was a dude standing in the kitchen, and it said,
point of view, you just told me we're pregnant, what are we going to do?
And when she hits, This Ain't Texas, he gets his debit card out.
Yeah.
I mean, I've seen so many of them.
It's like these old Texas mammals and pappaws,
like line dancing to the Beyonce, and it's been super fun.
But did you know that this is her on-spot?
at least. This is her number one biggest streaming song. It's actually the first one she's had that went like global number one streaming on Spotify.
That may be because she was on title exclusively until well after Lemonade came out, but that is still impressive. Does that count Destiny's Child? Because if that counts Destiny's Child, that is going to fucking blow my mind.
You know, you just made a really good point about title that I hadn't considered. As with anything, I just saw that headline and was like, well, that's what I know.
It's still crazy.
It's still crazy.
I love the Renaissance album.
The last album she did.
Oh, that's right.
I thought it was a dance album.
It was great.
That one may have debuted on Spotify,
which would blow the point I just made out of the water show.
I figured that what that is after lemonade.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's all right.
So let me.
Point to Ed and Corey.
You are correct?
That is mind-blowing.
Oh, don't give me no credit, dude.
I just read it on Instagram and farted out of my mouth.
Also, does this head look bigger?
Who, Corey's?
Yeah, he's like he's floating separate.
Oh, okay, he's leaning in.
The head is so thin now.
It could be that, yeah.
There is that.
Yeah, that's...
You're fat again.
I hate when we lose fatties.
He's mad at you, Corp.
I'm fat.
I've been telling him.
I've been telling him.
Look, you look great.
I'm sick of this shit.
For me, I look great.
For me...
Yeah, you look great.
Head still back.
Thank you, that's huge.
It wasn't even a fathead comment.
It was like...
I thought he had a fish eye lens or something.
Because of his whole Zordon situation.
Yeah, he's like floating up there.
If I could have it just be his head, I would do that.
Like, that would be my preference.
In life.
I've got a, hold on now.
I've got a green, green man suit and a green screen.
I could put it the green screen behind me and put a green suit on and just have my head
and we could fix it in post.
What would we put you in?
What would you put you in?
What would your head float in?
The Vat.
The Zordon thing.
Yeah.
So, Ed, I would.
wanted to ask just about the logistics.
You know, I have children and everything,
but I don't even think it's
just that. I don't know what happened.
Like, you obviously know, like, a lot of music, right?
I love it.
So you probably have, you have to spend a lot of time
listening to music, right?
Yeah.
Do you also, do you listen?
You're a podcaster?
Do you listen to podcasts?
Never.
Never.
I was hoping.
My mask.
Really?
I fucking can't stand them either, did it?
I don't know.
I was never a talk radio guy.
I was driving around my dad and he put talk radio and I always make them change.
I thought, see, I had gotten the impression.
For the record, I love podcasts.
I just love the ads like, yeah, I'm in the business, but fuck that.
Right.
It hits for me too.
I always, I just thought that I never liked talk radio either, but I just thought that like
every like millennial around my age when we hit like 36, it was like, well, we all
listen to podcasts now because that seems to have been my.
I've tried general experience because that's, I listen.
If I'm cooking, also again, I have kids and shit.
doing homework, whatever.
If I'm cooking dinner, I can have one headphone in and be listening to a podcast,
but I'm not going to listen to music and just one headphone, but I can't put both headphones
in and just tune my family out for an hour or whatever.
So like, I just, do you not lose the plot?
I mean, sometimes, and I'll just rewind it, but I'm saying they're not always talking to me.
I hate podcasts.
Like, I don't know.
I just became a podcast guy.
But also it's just like such a, I don't know, it started to feel like, I started to fall behind
on things that had come out that I knew I wanted to listen to and I hadn't yet.
And it started to feel like I had homework assignments or something that I hadn't got to.
And then eventually, and then one day I was just like, I think I'm just going to quit.
I think I'm just going to listen to my, like, you know, like working out, I listened to pretty much DMX's first three albums.
When you're working out, you won't guarantee hits.
And there's no.
My man, that he knows it all.
That is a deep fucking cut.
Did he have any remorse?
Hell no.
I don't want to keep going.
Hell no.
No remorse.
Oh, dude.
Yeah, man.
Oh, God, I love him so much.
Me too.
I love you guys.
He's so best.
Such a great pool.
You guys are my favorite friends I never see.
That is, I think, the hardest rap song of all time.
It is the hardest rap song.
That was a great bar.
Yeah.
That is what's going on with you in music.
You just said you are my favorite friend group I never see.
Yeah.
You've, like, cut a friend out of your life because they were hard.
to keep up with, which I guess is fine.
Do you not feel that podcasts feel like homework?
Because to me, that's part of why it's like,
it's like a TV show where you got to keep up with the plots,
but like it's not as good.
I don't, it doesn't blow my mind that you like podcasts.
It doesn't blow my mind that you've cut out music.
That together's blowing my mind.
How are you keeping up with podcasts,
but you don't have the energy to keep up with new music?
Also, you've made this point,
and then therefore we have sent you new music,
and you still are like, no, I'm good.
Yeah.
We've done the work for you.
We have been the Pac-Man Jones assistant putting gas in the car,
and you're still not driving the car.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just, again, when I'm home, I cook dinner pretty much every night,
and so I'll turn a podcast on for that.
I mean, pretty much just that, really.
Or if I'm, now when I'm driving, like, if I'm driving,
I'll put on a podcast instead of, like, listening to music.
that's crazy how do you chill
like how do you put your arm out the window and like enjoy the flow of the air
yeah dude audio books
audio i mean oh god that's just the narrative
i read harry potter it's super relaxing
all right ed you're a smart guy
and you're a good guy i'm kind of smart
when your friends say something like what they just said and when we were 13 we
would have been like gay what do we say now
fuck you
fuck you
He said an audio book with his arm out the window, dude.
Harry Potter.
I've seen that guy do meth, and he just said that.
Yeah, but okay, here's the deal, though, because now I have kids, too.
The only driving I do is across the highway to get to the park where I'm just going to put my headphones in and listen to my audio book.
So, yeah, I will admit that usually it's just satellite radio over to there, but it's often Conan radio.
or Howard Stern, because I have just gotten to where, like, I like talking more.
Now, I will say, and this is Point Drew all the way, Point Drew and Ed, this past,
for the past couple weeks, you know, full disclosure, my brain's been doing whatever it does
that don't hit, trying to kill me, you know, all that stuff.
And I decided, I was like, I'm not listening to anything I have to really pay attention to.
I'm not doing podcasts.
And I've been listening to music again.
Remember Drew the other day, I text you?
I was like, what's some new albums that hit, right?
I was going to ask you about that.
And you put me on J-I-D.
And, bruh, I've had, now I did pull some tray and just went back to some standard classics.
I've got my fucking dude.
So I listened to a lot of butt rock.
And I was scrolling through Spotify and I saw this playlist and it said,
Divorce Dad Music.
I'm subscribed to that playlist.
Okay.
Starts.
It starts with that.
Then you get a duster like Isbel did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We think this will hit for you.
Yeah.
And I've had a great couple of weeks.
Couple of weeks just listening to music and turning my brain off.
So, like, you're not wrong.
You remember when you used to get those Google ads that were somehow studying your algorithm,
and sometimes it would be a little depressing because sometimes it would be very on point,
but then sometimes it would be like, do you need dick pills?
Are you lonely?
And you're like, damn, my taste on the algorithm.
So playlist is doing that now.
That's funny.
Yeah, you're going to get one tomorrow that says bald guys who like rap and say the N-word
when they're alone in their car to the music.
Yeah.
coming. Did you
do you enjoy anything? Did you
try Susto? I've been trying to get both
I love Susto. Dude, that new
I had tickets. They played the Trubidor
and I was out of town. I lost my mind. I gave him
my buddy and then he didn't go. I'm fucking furious.
Now I'm serious. I didn't
get those tickets. What is Suston? Me and Susto
fucking each other on Instagram. So I have
heard Susto and I like it, but I just
listen to the JID. That's all I had time for.
But I haven't listened. Unless
every now and then on Susto, like they'll post shit on
Instagram, so I'm certain that I've heard
the new stuff, you know, but I'm
definitely going to holler at that, because if I'm not
mistaken, you said, like, this is the best
one of these four recommendations I sent you.
So that album is my favorite album
other than maybe CVC, which is
like a tie, I can't forget which one. And it lasts
like three or four years. Is that the one
with the rainbow on it? Yeah, it's kind of
abstract. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that one.
No, I think the one after that. Oh, okay. I
I only listen to the rainbow one. I like the rainbow one.
I remember what it's called. The new one is called,
I think it's called My Life.
Okay.
Man, there's some brutal fucking songs on there.
I love this shit.
And Susto, I think, is a guy to answer your question.
I think it's like American Aquarium.
There is a band.
Yeah, but even if it changes the guy is, I think, Susto.
So, what else you have for Eddie?
So I have two things.
Oh, Beyonce thumbs up.
I didn't get to say.
Yeah, I'm in.
Let's do it.
As both a black entertainer and a pop entertainer, quote-unquote,
crossing over, super in.
It's also apparently, this is a hand.
how big Beyonce has real quick. It's like giving
a boost to other black
country musicians and
artists who are great, but just
like overlooked by this or that,
whatever it is. It's like suddenly people are like
people who don't pay attention. Black
people are doing country music. It's like, yeah, they've been
doing it. Check this out. Charlie
Crocket. Charlie Crockett. I do know him.
Didn't I know he was black until like two months
ago. Didn't I say it
in the text? We were trying
to name the black country artist
because Corey was saying it's like
black people when they get in the country, they hit too hard to make any of that bullshit.
And I was like, look, I'll do respect to black people, but I know of a few of them that make,
his boy, Kane Brown.
Kane Brown's from his neck.
That's Corey's friend.
Yeah, Kane Brown.
There's a dude named Jimmy Allen, who I met in Nashville at this BBC radio thing we both did.
Oh, yeah.
And he was a nice guy, and I put him on the, I was like, but he makes pop country shit.
And then I was like, what happened to him?
I went and Googled it.
And he got, he did some, you know.
Fucked up shit?
Yeah, yeah, I got accused of it anyway.
Gotcha, let's move on.
The sexual variety.
I don't know the specifics, but anyway.
Speaking of crime, I'll connect that in a minute.
We'll come back to that last one because I know we can dive in on that one.
This segment could be really shorter, could be really long.
But this is something that came up in a text thread, and I just want to do it, which is words that you find pretty, but they have a terrible or bad meaning, or the reverse.
words that are just like ugly words, but
what they mean hits. To give you some
examples, I'll start. I am in love with the word
recidivism. It's crunchy. I like the way it
feels in my fucking mouth. It's hard to say.
Recidivism. Yeah.
But if you do hit it, it feels like you're dancing.
I feel like if you, that's a
argument winner, that word. You know?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's always you win an argument when you.
Well, you failed to consider the recidivism rates
in the state of Vermont, judge.
For anybody who doesn't know,
recidivism is the rate with which people return to prison
after they have been released.
America has one of the highest in the world.
Yeah, we have a high recidivism, right?
Yeah.
And that's ridiculous and sad and awful.
Yes.
Love the word.
And then on the flip side,
I think the word boat is an ugly word,
speaking of the boat boys.
Yeah.
I love boats.
Yeah.
Love boats.
Boat.
Boat.
It's barely not poop.
Yeah.
It is barely not poop.
You're right.
boat is barely not poop.
I wrote some down. You've made me think about this
because I never actually thought about this as a concept.
While you're looking it up,
credit to someone else, a video
Corey shared is what got us on this.
A girl, I think cheekily said malaria
would be a good girl's name if it didn't
mean malaria. I do think malaria
is a pretty... She said diarrhea
too. Yeah, that's why I think she was doing a bit.
I think she kept going out. She definitely was doing
a bit. She ended with slavery, a black person,
ended with slavery. So I think
she was doing a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Diary is not really.
I like myocardia.
Ooh.
What's that mean?
That's a hard thing.
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
Mesothelioma.
My dad's an idiot.
How about, I would say it, bidet.
That's a pretty word.
It's a pretty word.
Because it's French.
And you're saying it's ugly because of the poop.
Because it cleans asses.
It tries your butthole off.
Yeah.
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
But it does make your but hole pristine.
I have a bidet.
Shout out Tushy for sponsoring me.
I had to get rid of my bidet.
Too cold.
Oh.
You should have got the toe.
sushi ace where you can heat up the water.
That's good.
I'm glad I got you to help your plug.
It's French. That's a great move, Ed, doing a French word.
Because most French words are pretty.
I also put toilet on the list.
You think it's a pretty word.
I think it's a pretty word.
Toilbert.
Toilette.
That's also French.
Toilette.
Toilette.
Toilet.
I don't know if toilet.
I do.
You ever notice?
Turlet.
Turlet.
Turlet.
In Texas.
Restrooms always say toilet
I don't know if you ever notice that
Also England
England? England and Texas
England
I mean they call them Luz
But I'm saying you don't go to the bathroom
You go to the toilet
Oh right
What about commode
Where'd that come from?
Yeah, I like commode
Where'd that come from?
That's old school
That's a papal
You know it's an old person
If they say Camode
I gotta go to commode
My bowes is tore up
Yeah
And the moon hits your
That's a pap ball
Sorry
What's it
and I looked at an heroin.
Oh, that's a great one, dude.
Very nice word.
It is a pretty word.
It's almost as pretty as I imagine it feels.
Well, it also means a female hero.
Which also sucks.
You're right.
Also, yeah, the drug, way more fun.
And both will ruin your goddamn life.
Put you to sleep, too.
Polly.
You get more Southern when you're misogynistic.
Of course.
Actually, you don't even have to think about it.
It just happens.
I know.
It's not even a bigger doing it.
I don't think.
Keith Richards took advantage of it.
Oh, God.
Fuck, dude. Oh, man.
Corre said polypup.
Pollop is a fun word and you don't want those.
That's for sure.
You guys have any reverse?
I only had boat.
That's something I could think of.
Weed.
That's a good one.
Weed.
The weed bong,
you know, all that shit.
You know?
Well, this is a, this is a cliche.
Tons of people pointed this one out,
but a whole lot of people really, really, really do not like the word moist.
But, like, you're talking like cake and shit like that.
Yeah.
Moist is what's up.
I want my heroin.
Yeah.
Moist is like a good thing generally.
But the word don't bother me.
The word don't.
Not really, but I know a lot of people really hate it.
I love it.
Because I always think of cake.
Yeah, right.
Cake and vaginas.
Yeah.
It's what you want.
I always think cake, though.
I always want pussy.
there you go
well now they call ointment
that's a tough one ointment yeah
yeah that's an ugly word
yeah but they you know
you don't really yeah I guess it heals
but it also goes on something disgusting
that might be part of a
secrete yeah oh good one
that's like a French person that's not telling you something
I have a secrete but you're saying
that's a pretty word and ugly thing
or an ugly word and a pretty thing
yeah when something secrete's normally
it's kind of gross like a
cyst or I was back to
Poll up like they're secreting, you know.
But you like the word secrete.
Yeah. Yeah, it seems like it should be
you know, it's pretty.
Along the lines of what that lady was
saying, I don't think she said either of these,
but I think that
I think travesty and
catastrophe are both
cool words. Yep. I think
decimate is a cool word.
Decapitation.
Yeah. Decapitate.
Defenestriot. I love that.
The finish straight.
Thefinestrate is one of my favorite words.
Every dude knows to fennestrate.
Throw that motherfucker out of goddamn window.
Anytime like Putin or something comes up, I get excited because I'm like I can slide
the finestrade in here.
We need to put that on a t-shirt somehow.
Yeah.
Defendistrate Putin?
There you go.
That's fine.
The finestrate is just like a, that's kind of just like, that's a cool word and a good pull, right?
It's not like, right?
No, I mean, that is a bad thing.
want to be thrown out of window. No. Joe Walsh
defenestrated a TV out of a hotel window last night. Would have sounded
so much better. Yeah. You said that because of that badass thing he said about AI, didn't
you? I did, yeah.
What you said? Somebody asked, like, Joe Walsh, do you worry about AI, like replacing
the songwriters or musicians? And he said, you can't teach AI to throw a TV out of a
hotel window. I love Joe Walsh, man. He's a big comedy fan.
Did you ever see him with the Who's Line Is It Anyway, guys, right?
Yeah, we've talked about this.
We both have parties.
They used to, we're such nerds.
We loved, me and my buddies loved Hoosline.
We used to play Hoosline games in the basement and stuff like that.
And, uh, like, a lot of people, I don't think remember or maybe even knew at the time.
But I think it was a separate thing.
Those cast members from Hoosline, they used to do pay-per-view events, which were not
Hoosline episodes, but it was them doing like uncensored improv games.
Paperview Improles, dude.
And it was.
People liked it.
It was crazy.
But think about who it was.
Colin Mockrey.
It's phenomenal.
And then there's like such a short gap and it's terrible.
And so we would get those.
Those and like WWF paper views are the two types of paper views we got, which is, you know, an odd spectrum.
But they would have ghosts or they would have guests like big guests and Joe Walsh.
They brought him up there and did some games with him.
He was doing the music.
Yeah, that's right.
And then he only did the last game of the nine.
and it was a story game and it was
I mean he was the funniest one
he's got that voice yeah yeah yeah
he talks like a smart no
because part of why he was murdering is
he wasn't trying to be funny the way that they were
okay I remember one thing but his voice was so
a lot of it was non sequiters like they had a little
narrative going that had nothing to do with breakfast
as I recall and then it's his turn and he just goes like
you know you can have yourself some
shit what do you say it was like
now I was baking and eggs he was like
he was like you have
Have yourself some bacon and eggs if you got some bacon and also some eggs.
I know it sounds like I'm butchering it, but it wasn't really that far off from that.
But the way it's like, you know, he just like made a statement out of nowhere about breakfast food
in his voice that had nothing to do with what they were talking about.
So the game was, he did a lot of that type of shit.
The game was like if somebody points at Trey, he starts a story.
Then he points to you and you keep going with the story.
Then he points to me and you keep going to the story.
And then you point to Joe Walsh.
And I remember they pointed him at one point.
it was like because and he just goes
she had worms in her brains
and it made no sense
and it murdered
do you remember his sketch
on his album
the wan-waz
no yeah yeah here comes a clock of wams
a bunch of wangwaiwaiwaiwaiwai
that's the whole thing
and uh it was like that was
he was kind of hitting it like that
yeah
my favorite Joe Walsh story
that I've ever heard from someone who was there when it happened was our buddy Magic Mike
he had done he had done a party he's a magician and he had done Brad Paisley's birthday party and he
was telling us about it and he showed us he showed us his piece like yeah man I got to hang out with
Joe Walsh and so he flips his camera and it's a selfie that he took with him and Joe Walsh
and Joe Walsh's dress head to toe like the Pope right and I go oh it was a costume party and he
goes, nah.
That's amazing.
Good for him, man.
Worms in her brain.
All right, are we done with the word thing?
We're moving on to the next one.
Are we got any more words that we left out, fellas?
I barely know any words.
Okay.
I mean, I can think of words that I like, but they don't fit the description.
They don't fit the thing.
They're just words you like.
Yeah.
They're not bad necessarily.
Yeah, right.
Like, you know.
Obviously, you're aware.
I like ostensibly a lot.
You do like ostensibly a lot.
Another word I like is a preternatural.
I've always like that.
What does that happen?
Just like really good.
Like, if you got a preternatural ability to be funny on command,
it just means you like very naturally gifted at that thing.
But say, you can easily just say that.
I would say I'm the type of person who would rather say the other word.
Yep.
And that's a thing with me.
Well, we have a proclivity for that.
that sort of thing.
He does.
Anyway.
Move on to the next one?
I guess.
All right.
Well, I think it would be fun for us to discuss, less his monologue, and honestly, less what
happened that led to this being big news, because we've done that before on here.
But I think it'd be interesting to discuss the reaction to Shang Gillis.
As far as I know, the second stand-up comic in a few years, along with Nate Bargazzi,
who's just a stand-up comic
who doesn't have a movie coming out or anything like that
Gerard Carmichael did it
but that may have been like three or four years ago
now. I think that was four or five years ago now.
Jesus Christ. He also had a TV show
and he didn't at the time
though. Oh really? I remember him talking about
he had that special coming out where he came out
the special where he came out and that was coming out
and that was what he hosted it for. His
show had been over. Also full disclosure
I just read that tire shop
mini show that Shane did
is about to come out on Netflix
as a full sitcom.
So that's probably why they did it.
He's about to have a sitcom.
Anyway, the reaction to
the Shane Gillis hosting of SNL
for people who don't know, Shane Gillis,
and I'm sure most people who listen to know,
was hired at SNL and then fired
before he ever started because
some clips emerged of him on a podcast.
He says doing a character
that he does often.
Part of the controversy was
people who didn't know anything about shame were like, well, there was no different
voyage.
You just started, he just started saying a slur for Asians, multiple times.
And he was saying like, yeah, but I was being the guy who does that.
Anyway, he got fired.
Now his star has risen and he's been brought back as host.
His star has risen because he got fired.
If you even want to, you want to.
I would agree with that, but I would add to it.
I would agree with that 100%.
I would add to it, though.
But he lived up.
to it with the first two specials.
That Austin special is
one of the five or six best I've seen in years
and the one he just put out is very
good and Andy watched it
having no clue about any of this or giving a fuck
just because she wanted to because she had seen
some clip and she laughed the whole
time. He's super hilarious.
Now he's an amazing comedian
and I do appreciate that
he's an agent of chaos it seems like
and I'm down with that.
Well my first takeaway from watching the responses
online it's so funny to me that his
the people who really love him,
and they'd, like, think he's a hero.
Right.
Because he says, like, gay.
But see, here's the...
And then the people who hate him,
neither of them seem to be able to admit
that he just did okay in that monologue.
Like, you look online and people are like,
he bombed, and then somebody else is like,
he fucking tore it down.
And I'm like, he himself was like, I did fine.
And neither of you can admit it.
You can't admit it pretty good as most people do.
Right.
I'm not trying to disparage him.
My point is...
Yeah, I've heard it from a million people
on fly on the wall that, like,
you know, aside from the prestige of hosting S&L, that monologue is not a fun gig to do.
Of course.
It's a hard room.
Yeah.
I'm not trying to disparage him.
I'm saying it's so funny to me that people who already hate him can't admit he did pretty good.
And then people who are obsessed with him can't admit he did pretty good.
My thing with, right, Shane is that like, like you said, people, they're, he's like their hero.
Like, he's like, it's wild.
He's like a god to this certain subsect of American culture.
culture or whatever that's like, you know, pro free speech, anti-woke, all this shit.
And they're like, this guy's, this guy's single-handedly taking down cancel culture and he's
saving the comedy and all this type of stuff.
And it's like, that would lead you to believe that he's out there being super, super
anti-woky and really pushing the envelope and saying all kinds of wild shit all the time and
not giving a fuck.
But I don't think that he really does that.
I think that he didn't.
And I feel like he, like, in that moment.
He had a thing where he was gay, remember when you were gay?
But the bit, what the premise of the bit was, every little boy is his mom's gay best friend.
And that's a funny premise.
And then the jokes that he wrote for it made it play because they tracked with the premise.
It was like any, I told them it's like, I couldn't come up with that.
I haven't come up with that.
But like, I'd do that in front of our liberal-ass crowd.
And I wouldn't think twice about it.
Yeah.
And then he said, he said retarded in it, but he said it in the context.
of his niece being called that by a bully who then gets his ass whipped and it's just as served
because the bully is the bad guy who says that.
So it's like in context, he's not doing all that like anti-social justice warrior shit that they
deify him for doing.
He's just like delivering funny material.
But I appreciate that.
He didn't single-handedly take down cancel culture.
He single-handedly prove that it is not real.
Thank you.
That's exactly what he did.
I just want to say, though, one thing, not even pushback, because I agree with you, but I do think that joke was calculated.
Precisely because his defense of what got him canned from Saturday Night Live was that he was doing exactly what he did in that joke, which is say the word as a character.
And he even, in my opinion, gave the game away a little bit.
Because in the joke, what he says was he's talking about a niece having three adopted black brothers who beat up the kid who.
who calls her retarded.
And he's like, yeah, and then just three black kids come in and beat that cracker's ass.
And then people start clapping and he goes, that's right.
I said Cracker.
And it's funny.
Yeah, of course.
But I'm saying that, to me, that was very calculated.
To me, that's exactly why the joke works.
It's like, yeah, you see how you can laugh in context?
We can all do that if the context is.
And that, I think, is part of why they deify him is that he's not.
Like, I'll give him some credit in the sense of,
they do act like he's doing a thing he's not doing but i also think that's why they like him
yeah because he's not a guy who's up there like clap for me because i hate cancel culture they like
those guys too yeah but they like Shane because he's funny yeah well Shane's actually very talented
I wanted to not like him he's I tried hard to not like him to be honest with you fair and uh and I
and I just watched this shit and he's fucking hilarious he's so funny and he seems like a cool guy to
hang out with you know I'm friends with his friends I don't I never met him yeah us too you know
I don't know him at all.
But he seems like a stand as I've given my time to learn about him,
he seems like a really cool guy, to be honest with the end.
When that first clip came out, I said, and I stand by this, from the clip alone,
and I didn't go listen to the whole episode, I didn't want to,
I can't as a comedian defend this.
Yeah.
And I still feel that way.
I didn't understand what the joke was that they were going for.
He just kept saying that Chinatown was full of.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, here's what I think about that.
I think that as someone who said a lot of things that they wished they didn't say 20 years ago
and do a microphone.
Right.
That's what I was you saying.
You know, like, so I, you know, I've definitely like bit on that.
You're just like when you're younger, you just do straight shock shit before you learn
at a craft a joke properly and be funny, you know, and I think that he got caught up,
he got exposed for that.
I think that if I ever got on SNL, that I would be canceled, you know, so.
Sure.
And so I think that, you know.
I'd probably be arrested by the after.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's not get into that.
Mitch McConnell.
Yeah.
So I'm, you know, I'm happy for him that he's able.
I like a redemption story, man.
I think it's really cool that he was able to, like, come back.
And it seems like he's really, you know, I know he doesn't still do it.
Right.
Well, what I wanted to get into on that note, too, and we're getting closer, I guess,
running out of time is just comedy in general.
So, like, where are we?
He didn't save comedy.
It's like people who are saying.
are weird. And then you got people on the other side who were like, well, this is the end of
S&L. You know, I'll never watch again. It's like, well, if you're 45, you're not watching it.
By the way, they had Trump post. So where you fucking stand? Yeah, exactly. They helped get
them elected. Well, someone made the biggest ratings in 20 years. Someone made the point two,
21 Savage was the musical guest. And I love rap music. I'm not disparaging it. But like, his lyrics are
sometimes very pro dealing drugs and killing people. So like, well, yeah. So was Jay-Z.
Right. That's rap. But where are we?
in comedy now. Like, can we,
are we close to putting this to bed,
which is like the constant
debate of the morality of, let's
take Shane out of it, just in general, are we
getting there, or is it about to get worse?
Like, are we dug the fuck in?
Because I'm seeing people
get, grow tired of it, but I'm also seeing people
dig in more. I think there's
enough for everybody, comedy-wise.
Right. Like, no matter what you're a fan of,
you just follow that person. You know,
I think we're, there's so much, there's more
comedy than there's ever been, in
of time, like today, you know, and tomorrow there'll be more, you know. And so it's just, I think
that you find your person and you stick to them. But they like Shane, they like Shane. They like,
you like, you like Maria Bamford. You're like Maria Bamford, you know, like, and so just
stick to your person and support them. And then, you know, that, you know, if you spend all your
day hating Shane and finding reasons to hate Shane, you're not a smart person in my mind,
you know, like, I'd much rather, you know, I don't like, or worshiping out of. Yes.
You know, like I...
Or worshiping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't worship...
Anyone who worships one thing, whether it's God or Led Zeppelin, I don't trust you.
You know, like, it's fucking, you know...
One is cooler than, you know.
One is cooler than, for sure.
One only fucked one chick as far as we know.
She was 14, so God's a little problematic.
That's a great point.
But, um...
No, I...
But what about when someone big gets something like SNL or host to the Daily show and then they
lose it because they've been lying their whole career or whatever,
which is what just happened to Osama Nage?
Like, are we going to get to a point in comedy where the big jobs aren't a moral, you know,
there's a moral part of this job search?
I think that's already happened and that's always going to happen, you know, and, you know,
I think that's fine, you know, but I think there's a line.
You know, I think saying a slur when you're in a not as intelligent, up-and-coming comic
is one thing is different than raping someone, you know, like I think it's a,
big, I think it's a, I think it's a much, I think it's a much different.
That's a great fucking point.
If we're being for real, though, you're talking about them big jobs.
I think if we're going enough far in the future, the future of comedy is like, those
big jobs won't even really be a thing.
You know what I mean?
Like, with dudes like, look at what Rogan's doing.
Look at what Shigur and Bird are doing.
Like, that's kind of, to me, the future is like, comedians realizing like, hey, we've got
more power than we ever have.
So we don't have to worry about getting fired by NBC.
get your following, start your own fucking YouTube, do your own thing, they'll come to you.
Like, I, you know, I don't know.
Like, I don't know if people are going to be as worried about, like, who's going to be
the new host of the Tonight Show in 10 to 15 years?
I could be wrong.
I just don't think it's going to be as big of a fucking deal.
Yeah, I'd be some robot fucker, you know.
Yeah.
As long as that robots of age, Trey.
Yeah.
You know, and, you know, at risk of ruining my life, you know, I think executives don't know
shit. What if he'd have set a slur right there?
But, you know, I think they don't know
anything, and I think that now, like,
there is... They also don't care about anything, by the way.
They don't care. And, you know, they're nice,
occasionally, you know, whatever. But, like,
the thing is, you know, unless they were formally a comedian,
you know, I don't think they know much. Jordy Fox was formerly a comedian.
He's really cool. And, but the rest,
I don't trust any of them. Right. You know, like, how did you get
job.
You don't, there's no college class to becoming a TV.
No, your parent, your parent probably knew somebody who hired you on as their assistant.
Then you were that person's assistant for a while before you, you know, then just moved up
from it through there and went to the right college and so lucky.
Yeah.
To be able to just like reach straight out to the people who love us and they can like reciprocate
directly to us.
And I think we are fucking blessed.
And it is like, I think times have changed.
And personally, I don't even.
I haven't looked at a packet in years.
I don't give a fuck anymore.
I don't, I'm not trying to be a TV writer.
I had an epiphany.
I'm like, why am I trying to do this?
I hate television.
You know, like, why am I trying so hard?
You know, like, what are we doing here?
Like, you know, like last podcast on the left, I'm sure you guys too, a lot of TV shows don't get the numbers we get.
And so it's like, you know, it's like, well, what am I even doing?
Why am I trying to do something that's technically worse?
You know, and so.
Health insurance.
I have health insurance.
Oh, yeah, dude.
they give it to me it's nice you know it's so it's fucking yeah i don't know why i don't know it's like take
it from them like let's all be our own masters and i think it's like it's kind of what happened in the
70s when the studio system for the movies collapsed you know and all these like really cool
adventurous movies got made you know like all those great jack nicholson movies we love like five
easy pieces you know like and i think that's oh i didn't know the history of that stuff that's
awesome i think that's where we're heading back to in this decade i think a lot of people are going
to be making their own shit and it's going to be really cool esther's movie just came out it looks really
good it's only playing in like a couple theaters but you can tell it's going to be like a cult
classic it's going wide after uh in march is it oh yeah oh nice jorny fox works here by the way
oh he does yeah yeah i love jorty by the way that was god everybody listening and uh
her just talking shit a minute ago yeah and uh so it's uh i think it's i think it's i think we're
taking it back man hell yeah and i think the crowd loves it personally and i think that's
why Shane's so popular and I think that's why y'all are so popular what a fucking perfect answer and
callback you just did everything I wanted you to do in terms of like this we need to discuss this
bigger than Shane and then you did that and you circle back dude that was fucking phenomenal perfect
way to end did I say because we are over an hour so Eddie it was great to see as always tell a
well everyone knows last podcast and a left but check out my other bright my other podcast I do called
the brighter side I do it with Amber Nelson one of the funniest people in the world in the world
It's a really great.
Our Twitch channel, LPNTV, is super cool.
We're going to be booking all you fellows soon.
And we'll be coming by doing, I got a new show coming up there around in May called the Hoopagoo Goo Goo Game, which is basically a rapid positivity talk show or a game show.
And then I get in check out my movie, How America Kill My Mother is what I was doing when I was promoting last time I was on the show.
And it's still out there.
And it's, you guys are amazing in it.
And thank you again for.
doing that for me and not, you know, making me pay you. Absolutely. You made, I won't throw
this on Tray, but you made me look way smarter than I am. Well, yeah, I mean, you, you, both,
all you guys are intimidatingly smart. All three of you. So I appreciate you let me in the house.
Thanks for those plugs. Thanks for coming on, buddy. Thank you. I'll be in Denver, March 15th and
16th at the Denver Comedy Lounge. My next date after that's not until June, so I'll plug that
later. Come see me, Denver. I'm in Indianapolis this weekend, and then I got Winchester and D.C.
next weekend, and then a bunch of other places coming up after that. So go to Trey Crowder.com.
Check them out. Come see me. Joe. March 2nd. If you're in the Chattanooga area, I will be at East
Hamilton Middle School. Wrestling. My God. I'm in the Scenic City Royal Rumble, or I should
say the Buttercream Dream is tickets are at S&I Wrestling.com. I thought you were just doing
commentary. You're going to physically
wrestle. He's in the Rumble. I've been
training, bro. Buddy. Very careful.
Pac-Man, get my assistant.
Fly me to Chattanooga. Right now, I'm
going to watch this. You have to, we have
to support him in this endeavor.
But you have to be careful for him. He's going to crush it,
and that's great, or he's going to get hurt, and I
also want to be there for that. Yeah, yeah. Just be
loud. I know you could do that. Well, I am
the only wrestler in the Royal Rumble
that gets to come out with a live mic, so
that's, there's going to be that.
So, March 2nd, East Hamilton Middle School.
for a good call. Good calls, fundraising because they're fucking school burnt down or some shit,
or they don't have any books because it's Tennessee. I can't remember. But scii wrestling.com.
It's going to be great. Also listen to Putting on Air's Gravy Baby, weekly skews.
And if I may, thank you all for listening to The Well Red Show. We'd love to stick around longer,
but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do.
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