wellRED podcast - #380 - Ed Larson Is Better Than Ever!

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

This week the boys are graced with the presence of one of their goodest buddies, comedian Ed Larson! You may know Ed from Comedy Central, Killer Raccoons 2, his movie How America Killed My Mother, OR ...as the newest host on the cultural phenomenon that is Last Podcast on The Left!   Ed and the boys discuss all the new and awesome things going on in his career, as well as their shared love of music and comedy!   Yes, we also talked about Beyonce going country baby!   HowAmericaKilledMyMother.com is where you can check out Ed's powerful film, and listen to him on Last Podcast On The Left and Brighter Side wherever you get your podcasts!   TraeCrowder.com for tickets   DrewMorganComedy.com for tickets   MARCH 2ND CHATTANOOGA The Buttercream Dream will be making his in-ring debut! Grab tickets to the show at SCIwrestling.com   BonusCorey.com for Corey's Substack and CoreyShirts.com for his merch!   Love yall!

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Starting point is 00:00:19 It's just like you can just, it makes it easier to lose count of, well, your count, the count every month, how much you're spending. A lot of people don't even know how much they spend on a per month basis. I'm not going to lie. I can be one of those people. Like, let me ask you right now. Skewers out, whatnot, sorry, well-read people. People across the skewniverse, I should say. Do you even know how many subscriptions that you actively pay for every month or every year?
Starting point is 00:00:41 Do you even know? Do you know how much you spend on takeout or delivery? Getting a paid chauffeur for your chicken low main? Because that's the thing that we do in this society. Do you know how much you spend on that? It's probably more than you think. But now there's an app designed to help you manage your money better. and it's called Rocket Money.
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Starting point is 00:03:09 They're the in the very first episode, very first practice of training camp, Pac-Man ran out of gas in his E-class bends and broke down on the road. That's so funny for a rich guy to do. I know. I'm saying it's literally the fucking big-timer song. He only put a quarter tank of gas in. That's what happened. He's got a sister. He's still fly, though.
Starting point is 00:03:33 They're the liberal rednecks. They like cornbread, but sex, they care way too much, but don't give a fun. They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset, but they got three big old dicks that you can suck. What's up? Well, Red Nation, here we are. Look at this. And these fancy new climbs. I mean, we were here last week. Drew wasn't, though. This is your first time in the new studio, Drew. Well, I think I filmed a thing. I said for VH1 and Aaron was like, that's not a company anymore. I think I filmed the thing here like a year ago. It was one of those, like talking head things where they use you on multiple episodes. They asked me about American Gladiators. They asked me about Blockbuster. It was like a remember the 90s show. I know what it was. Whatever happened that I was. I was supposed to do. do that and I couldn't because I was out of town, but would that ever come out? You know that, man, this is such a comedian thing. If you've ever seen him, you're going to know who I'm talking about, either of you. Okay. But everyone listens to me like, what are you even
Starting point is 00:04:37 saying? Do you know that fat Southern comic who grew up around black people? So he wears like church black hats and he's pretty smooth for a white guy. And you can tell, even though he's using vernacular, what is it, AABN, African-American? Abonics? They don't call it that in a while I don't think. I don't know why. You can tell he comes by it honest. He's very funny.
Starting point is 00:05:00 He's pretty big in the black circuit. Do you know what I'm talking about? No. I don't know you're talking about either. He's not big, you know. I want to meet him though. If you've ever done a show with him, he is fucking cool. He was on it the same day as crushing.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I mean, just in there murdering. He posted a clip and I hit him up and I go, damn, where'd you get that clip? I'd like some content, you know. I spent some time on that. And he was like, oh, my girlfriend just videoed that off of our big screen and knows how to make it look good, which seemed very him to me. So it is out. I don't even know what channel. I was completely wrong about what channel.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Well, hire his girlfriend. Yeah, there you go. That's a good call. That's a good point. Can you do that for me, too? You also could have at least just asked the guy what channel it was on or whatever. You acted like the trail ran cold right there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:50 No way to figure this out. Name a channel and then I'll tell you how I would get it from that channel. Spike. Pluto. No clue, no clue, no clue. The production company would be the only route. And I just haven't done that. I need to.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I think it was called Remember the 90s? Yeah. You're like, I do, I do remember the 90s. You remember the 90s? This is our guest, Ed Larson, everybody. He's actually, he's been on the show before. You got remember. Once before, a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Eddie, yeah. Yeah. It's good to be back and your beautiful new digs. I like it. Yeah. How are you doing, buddy? I feel good. How's a married life treating you? When you were on the show before you, that was not the case.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I was not married yet. I was not married. I was engaged for a while. Same woman? Same woman. Same woman. She's still a woman, too. It's great. Really good. I mean, that's what you're into. But yeah, we're married. I love it. Surprisingly smooth. Yeah? Yeah, no, it's, we have had very, no disasters, really. She's great. Bingles fan, right?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Bangles fan, she's from Cincinnati, you know, and I, that, that's, That town is surprisingly decent. I like Cincinnati a lot. Yeah, I know it is. I like the Beatles too. Cincinnati is, I think, underrated by the general public because I feel like I think, maybe I'm wrong, but I think people in other places think Cincinnati don't hit, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:06 But it's Ohio and the South and most people are like, both those things. But it's actually pretty rad. Yeah, it's the best parts of Ohio and the South in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, you get all the good stuff at Kentucky, which is the booze. And then a little bit of danger. A little bit of danger.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I mean, there's certainly dangerous parts of Cincinnati. And it used to be worse, because remember when the Bengals used to get arrested, like, every week? When Pac-Man Jones is on the team? So I was just like, oh, this place is a disaster if they're arresting the football players. We cut to the rest of the Bengals, and they're like, why did you say Bengals? It was just Pac-Man. I remember they were on hard knocks one year that Bengals when Pac-Man was there. And in the very first episode, very first practice of training camp,
Starting point is 00:07:46 Pac-Man ran out of gas in his E-class bins and broke down on the road. That's such a... That's so funny for a rich guy to do. I know. I'm saying it's literally the fucking big-timer song. Like, you know... He only put a quarter tank of gas in his... That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He's got assistance. He still fly, though. His assistants have assistance. Man, it don't matter how rich you are. Richer you are, the least likely you are to remember gas. But that's why you pay somebody to remember it for you. I used to work at IAC Interactive Corporation. You know that you guys lived in New York at some point?
Starting point is 00:08:19 You did. I don't think you lived today. both did. He did for a while. Corey did briefly. I have not lived there. So you know the place right across from the Chelsea Pears? It looks like it's going to take off. College Humor was in there. I used to be the mailroom guy there and it was owned by Barry Diller. And I don't know if you all remember who Barry Diller is, but he's the guy who they based Monty Berndton. Yes, Phyllis Dillis. No, he wishes. But he's married to Diane von Fursterberg. They based two off? Monty Burns, the Simpsons. Oh, yeah. Because he sold Fox to Rupert Murdoch all the way back
Starting point is 00:08:46 in the day. And he's just like one of those like billionaire type dudes. But he used to drive this scooter from the docks because he lived in Jersey, he would take a boat across the river, and they would hop on like a Vespa, and his Vespa used to always run out of gas. Hold on, dude. When you were working in the millroom at this place, the old tycoon
Starting point is 00:09:07 who inspired Montgomery Burns was still there working? How old was that guy? He got fired while, he was very old. He got fired while I was working. He got fired. Wait, how you fire that guy? Who fires that guy? Well, the board fired him and it was like Norman Schwartzcoff was on the board so I just like get his mail
Starting point is 00:09:24 and shit. Holy shit. Wait was the person that Smithers was based on like was he real and like work with that dude? He's very closeted. The, uh, his boat would have the boat boys would show up every once in a while. It would just be a bunch of like tight little boys.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Boat boys. And he was married to Dianvon. The 90s group. Yeah. You remember the 90s? Yeah. The boat boys. Yeah. With their thing, hit single, rocking you. Well, that's all phenomenal. Yeah. So did you hang out with the boat boys?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Do you ever get on the boat? You know, I never got on the boat, but I talked with the boys a couple of times because they would just show up and, you know, the mail room's like the first line. How many boat boys did he have? There was, I'm guessing four to six. Four to six, boat boy? Is it a rotating cast of boat boys? You know, I don't, I never got too close to the boat boys. Was it a rainbow coalition of boat boys?
Starting point is 00:10:14 He had some Puerto Rican boat boys. No, yeah. I think they were all, I'm pretty sure they're all white. New it. Construction worker. Yeah. In Indian. In India.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah. Policeman. Yeah. Dude, so rich. The boat boys was actually just the village people. Yeah. That was their second act. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But fuck that place. It takes a village to keep a boat running. Damn, dude. That's wild. That is super wild. Yeah. What's the most evil thing you saw? I mean, they used to just make me throw out bodies.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Hooker of the children. Yeah, right. They used to make me throw out people's lunches if they put them in the wrong fridge. That was the most evil thing they happened there. Wow. You ate them. I mean, I threw them out.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I ate a couple. But like, for the most part, I would throw them out because I hated it. Because the first day, they were like, you know, he was like one of those like pretty boys who was covered in tattoos and like had
Starting point is 00:11:06 $10,000 glasses. You know, like one of those guys. He was in charge of facilities, you know, making the place look nice. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:12 and it's like, if you had like a plant that wasn't sanctioned, I had to like off the plant, you know, like, You were the enforcer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was the enforcer. It was very horrible job.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Sunglass boy didn't do that. He made you do his dirty work. They just sit on the boat mostly. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the primary job description of the boat boys. Sorry. Be a boy on a boat. My bad.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Boy got in my head because of the boat boys, and I was trying to be derogatory towards the tattoo $10,000 glasses guy. Oh, yeah. So I just called him that. Yeah, he used to make me dress into like a three-piece suit and like build desks and shit. It was a fucking horrible job. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was... I think you were a boat boy and you didn't
Starting point is 00:11:54 know it. I fucking hated it. I was too fat and I couldn't, I could barely live in that place and I... Pondoon Boat Boy. Yeah, Fontein'bought boy. I would love to what a job. Yeah. To live on a pontoon. Well, I know you got to get your butt railed out at some point by an old living corpse of a plane. I like Q-tips.
Starting point is 00:12:10 You know, I'll see you're clean. You gotta get clean. One of our top fans last of the 5.0s on Twitter Gay man, calm down now to hear him tell it. But apparently back in the day, him and an old pass lover owned a house pontoon boat together and used to just have wild, wild, red-ass, gay-ass parties. He's his, that he is the Vim diagram and it's shaped like a butthole when it comes to like the redneck gay overlap. I didn't know there were pontoon boats that you could live on.
Starting point is 00:12:41 He could live on any boat. Thank you. It's a houseboat, but I think most houseboats are technically poncune. Pontoons, right, in terms of how they are built? That's definitely a design for sure. It's like some of them especially are basically just like a trailer that's sort of seated on two, you know, pontoons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I guess it's not a pontoon boat, but it is, though. I always learned so much. Not all pontoon boats are houseboats. Right. Well, not all houseboats are pontoon. It doesn't matter. We're getting into weeds here. Y'all had some, first of all, I wanted to say, Ed, you got some shit going on lately, right?
Starting point is 00:13:12 You've been, you've had, there's some big news in Ed, well, some of these people probably are already recognizing you, like, oh, shit. Look who it is because I've been third mic and you've been found you've found yourself Yeah third mic on like one of hands down the most popular podcasts of all time I think it's very it's very surreal I'm still waiting for you know something bad to happen to me And like anvilafol on my head talking of course about you're here today Talking of course about the last podcast on the left You didn't those guys go way back right back to like New York and so Henry and I were
Starting point is 00:13:47 college roommates in Tallahassee, Florida. Holy shit, I didn't know that. Yeah, if I did, I forgot. Our sketch group, Murder Fiss, formed in Tallahassee. And then we all moved to New York together. Yeah. And so I've been, you know, Henry and I have been writing partners for over 20 years now. That guy's
Starting point is 00:14:01 as cool as a fucking cucumber. He's so great. Yeah, it's very smooth. It's very intimidating how funny he is. First time I met him, it was like a steak dinner situation. And I think it was like on the way home. I was pretty high. And I was like, oh, that guy was in Wolf of Wall Street. And it was like, it was,
Starting point is 00:14:17 So funny, I was like, damn, we were talking about the business and he didn't casually drop. You know, I just think that could have been because he was distracted about from the business talk by me professing that COVID wasn't going to amount to shit and everybody needs to shut the fuck up about it. No one would ever know that. You tell that story all the time. I know. It's because, you know. It's your confessional. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I just. Well, it was like three days out from hell, right? Yeah. If that, dude. If that. And I was sitting at this dinner with these guys. The first time I met, yeah, Henry, everybody else there I knew. But there was a bunch of us at a steakhouse at Burbank.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And I was just on this tirade about, like, fuck, it ain't going to be shit. Cline flu wasn't shit. Fucking SARS wasn't shit. This ain't going to be shit. These happen every four or five years. Act like it's going to be a big deal. Then nothing ever fucking happens. And then cut to Leo and DiCaprio's co-star.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Okay, buddy. Yeah, pretty much. And smart Mark was there. And this is why I should have known just to shut the fuck up. because Mark was like, no, hundreds of thousands of people are going to die. And it's going to be. That's literally what he said. He does say that a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:21 And I was like, I was like, I'm going to see it, motherfucker. We'll find out. But anyway, every time Henry has come up since then, I just saw him not long ago. And, you know, of course, brought it up. And, you know, he was super cool about it. But that's one of the things in my head. I'm like, in my head, I'm like, that's all anyone ever thinks about whenever they think. You know.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I have one of those that I thought of earlier. and now I'm so happy to circle back to it. I don't know if it was when I met her, but the last time I hung out with you and your wife was a Bengals Chiefs playoff game a year or two ago. Yes. And Irvine invited me, and I didn't know it was like a Bengals fan watch party.
Starting point is 00:16:00 So I just showed up in my Patrick Mahomes' ketchup shirt that Corey had bought me. And no one, like they weren't in gear because these were very hip L.A. A few people were, but I just didn't think if we started drinking, I'm like hanging out with that, I just started getting loud. I'll, you know, I'm cheering.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And then at some point I'm looking around and I'm like, Irvine, am I the only cheese fan here? And he's like, yeah, dude, these are all Bengals fans. And I'm like, he's an Ohio guy. You made me look like an asshole. Oh, it's fine. He's a Browns fan, though. I'm a Dolphins fan, but he's a big Ohio guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah, you know, it's fine. You know, you can hate on the Bengals. You know, I kind of like them now because of my family. But, yeah, it's good to hate on them. Sure. I'm not upset that I hate on the Bengals. It was more like a guy that was invited by a guy that was invited. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:44 invited. We know what I'm saying, though. Yeah, yeah. All right. So, Travis brings friends everywhere, too. What has that been like, uh, like that experience? Because they, I don't know, the whole arc of it, again, you guys are college roommates.
Starting point is 00:16:57 So you saw them explode into what that show became, which is, I'm so fascinated by any show that does that. Like, they went from relative obscurity, right? To like, again, one of the biggest podcasts of all time. And then years later, now you've come on board with it. Like, what's that whole trajectory? Well, I've always been a part of the network. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You know, I've always had the brighter side on there. And then before that, the first podcast on the network was Roundtable a Gentleman. And that was Marcus, myself, Ben Kessel, Kevin Barnett, Holden McNeely, and Jackie Zabrowski. And then Henry would show up all the time. And he was basically the seventh member that, you know, wasn't a member, but he was a member. And then they broke off and did their podcast, which were like, good luck fellas. And then it just fucking. and blew up because of they're so good at it and no one's better than Marcus.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah, Marcus is like, you know, Henry's the funniest dude in the world, but Marcus is like, first of all, he's very funny, but he's also like, just brilliant and well researched and like, he's like the kind of guy where like, I'll walk in the studio office and he'll be reading like three books at once.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Like he has like one of those like stands that holds a book open and then he's like holding one in his hand and then there's like Wikipedia shit on his computer. And I'm like, how do you concentrate like that? It makes no sense to me. Candlelight? Yeah. He's a quail.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Quill. Yeah. It's dead or adderall. Yeah. And, you know, so they're just such hard workers. And it's, I think it just shows that, you know, a few people are really into the edutainment and they go the extra mile and like, they go past the Wikipedia page. And every episode's based off a book or two books or three books.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And there's like, now it's like three researchers around the show. Yeah. I'm handed like a dossier, but like, 10 minutes before I go on, I'm like, I'll do my best. I don't know. Like, you know. Do you feel a lot of pressure stepping into that? role or is it like you've known you're there your old friends you've known for so old friends and so like I you know there's a little less pressure and like I don't know if like
Starting point is 00:18:52 I think like one thing I learned a long time ago was and I'm sure you fellas all feel it as well is you know sometimes you just don't have a choice but to kill you know like it's like oh well it's like if I don't kill then everything's fucked and you know so it's like you have to and so I just you know I didn't even wouldn't even worry about the pressure I would just concentrate so hard on telling jokes. You know, it's like, it's not an option to do bad right now.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Well, I don't generally recommend anyone read any comments, but Reddit fucking loves you, dude. Yeah. They're like super on board with, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:24 like a lot of like, I didn't know how this would go, but this has been phenomenal. I love him. Yeah, well, that's very nice. And I've heard,
Starting point is 00:19:31 I have heard that. I stay off of the comments. I'll read comments on my own posts, but, um, I feel that's always damaging and just, you know, I'm put your head down and work type of guy.
Starting point is 00:19:41 you know, rather than that kind of stuff. You seem like a blue-collar lunch pail type guy. I was forever. Yeah. Yeah. For, you know, I was a chef for many years. You know, I used to, when I first moved to New York, I was working like 60 hours a day. 60 hours a week, rather, 60 hours a week.
Starting point is 00:19:55 60 hours a week. Oh, boy hours. You know, comedy at night and, you know, I was drinking until, you know, it slept two hours. But so now it's translated well into my life. And, you know, I used to work with Jeff Ross all the time, you know, and I've, I've, Your cousin. Help my cousin. And I help him run his business.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And I recently stepped back from that. And, you know, and I'm just taking on the last podcast network full time. And it's fucking fun, man. That's great. We got a new studio. It's like, it's like a fun little factory in there.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You sleep in three hours now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. You got like some segments.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You guys playing stuff or so. Yeah. People don't know. I didn't even know I was going to be here. today and then I ended up being able to. So they've got plans and I don't know them. Well, you know, keep it in line with his hard worker lunch pal mentality and what he does on last pod.
Starting point is 00:20:50 He was like, hey, what's the topics? And me and Corey were like, oh, right. Topics. It'd be a good thing to know. Trade normally just says some stuff and we hope for the best. Off top, the first topic we wanted to discuss. And this is, as you may or may not know, we have, we had like a sort of auxiliary podcast called Bubba Shot the podcast where we talked about 90s country.
Starting point is 00:21:11 music. We talk about country music all the time. Cool. All country, old school country, we do it all. Well, arguably the biggest star in the world, definitely one of the five biggest stars in the world. Beyonce has gone country. Look at them boots. And I guess we just wanted to, Corey and I were like, hey, let's just talk about that, you know. It's a
Starting point is 00:21:27 monumental thing. First of all, I mean, there's been plenty of black country music stars and there's been plenty, I shouldn't say plenty, and there's been plenty of pop stars crossover or try to cross over. Yeah. I don't know if anyone in the pop star world, has been this successful this quickly.
Starting point is 00:21:44 No. Because if you think about it, if you say, oh, what about like Casey Musgraves? Really, that was the other way around. Casey was a country star who crossed over the top. That's normally how it goes. That's what Taylor Swifted to. I'm about to say that's like,
Starting point is 00:21:55 that's way more typical than the reverse. I feel like, it's like country stars try to make the transition in the mainstream. I mean, like Chenai Twain in the 90s was doing the same thing. I mean, even Sturgle kind of left a little bit. Yeah, with that rock album. And then, you know, so. but he did the one after that was country.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Bob Dylan kind of sort of went country. I don't remember the album, but it was really like more folk. I mean, you're right along. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, because that was the one where he did the duo with Johnny Cash, girl at the North Country. That's a great song. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 00:22:27 But it is really more of a folk song, and it is an old folk number. Some people would call Springsteen's Nebraska country-esque, but I think it's more folk. Yeah. I'm trying to think of people who have done it even. I said that now. I'm like, wait, hasn't he? Leon Russell. not as like famous as them
Starting point is 00:22:43 but Leon was you know a piano man and he did one of my favorite concept albums ever which is Hank Wilson's back which I loved so good I just got it on vinyl actually I've got it on vinyl it's great man hell yeah know who did it the best probably forever
Starting point is 00:22:59 and probably the first person to do was Ray Charles yes it's a great point yeah he did it he put out like a double record and it was like in the height of his career and it was everyone's like don't do it and it was great and everyone loved it and also a lot of people were like well, how did he pull that off? And at that time, and maybe you know so about it,
Starting point is 00:23:14 as we've discussed this a lot, the industry, especially in Nashville, split their records into what they would call, you know, black records and hillbilly records, but they would use the same players. So a lot of these cats that played on that record for Ray Charles, they play country records all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Because a lot of those musicians back then, the studio musicians had to learn how to play both. And there's a lot of overlap from that time. of songs having an R&B version that did well and a country version that did well. If I'm not mistaken, there's a whole episode on the first season of Cocaine and Rhinestones, the country music podcast, that talks about that. That also remained the thing. I was about saying that also remained the thing.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I guess maybe they don't do it anymore, but yeah, in the 90s, like, boys to men and all for one. Like, John Michael Montgomery would cover their songs. Brian and Guy and Gary Allen. Yeah, God must have spent a little more time on you was a boy band. song, yeah, in sync, and then it got covered, and then they kept it up into the alts, even with some butt rock because I know for a fact that lips of an
Starting point is 00:24:19 angel got a, got a Nashville country cover. Yep. I cannot wait to listen to that on the way home. I did not know that. Awful. Totally destroys an angel. Totally destroys the integrity of the genius of Hender. I think when Hilly
Starting point is 00:24:33 and Tim McBohpast did their thing, it kind of exploded the whole thing. The audacity to cover fucking Hender, you know, but yeah. I've probably had too much caffeine, and I'm a trade crowder fan. That is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. No, the Beyonce thing, I knew, I'd heard she, I'd heard she was doing it. There's two songs now.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Okay. Well, so, see, I'd heard she was doing it, but as they are aware, but I haven't, I never told you this before, I have, I've contracted what I call early onset pap all. And in this context, what I mean by that is, I haven't listened to new music in probably six or seven years. He refuses. I will send it to him and he'll just be like, I'm not going. I've just turned into my dad way earlier and I thought I would. You know, it's like, I feel like back in the day everybody's dad or at least my dad. Actually, I always say this, but my dad was not like that. Your dad liked my morning jacket. My dad, that's
Starting point is 00:25:24 all dad's like my morning jacket. Right. Yeah, but he loved like, my dad was not. And Wilco, right. He was not, he was not like that at all. He stayed up. And you're not honoring him. Yeah, you're right. But anyway, I don't know what happened. I just don't listen to new shit anymore. So I don't Like, I knew Beyonce was doing it, and I heard that, and I was like, that's neat. I'll never hear that. But then I... You know, I heard it on, like, trends? Then I went, then I did, uh, I did Karen Hunter's show, which is on Sirius Sallet
Starting point is 00:25:51 radio on Urban View. And, uh, you know, I'm the only white guy on this show and they're talking about Beyonce. And I don't, I don't know if they had me on because of this, whatever. Like, you know, you know, you know country shit or whatever. Yeah. They were talking about beyond, and they played some of it. And so I got exposed to it, like, without even knowing it.
Starting point is 00:26:09 was going to happen, and I was like genuinely pretty impressed by it. Because they start, and I was like, hold on, that's Beyonce? Because it sounded pretty legit to me. But also really good. Like avoided cliches. Yeah. You know what I mean? While doing enough cliches to be pop country.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Because that's like a really fine line in pop country right now. To be pop country, you sort of have to hit certain cliches. But if you do it poorly, even to pop country fans, you're going to be like, because Pop country fans loved fancy like Applebee's, but they all knew it was goofy. Yeah. You know, they were like, they would defend it by being like, it's a fun song. What are you mad about? But they knew it was goofy.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It's not goofy. It's really good. Yeah, I don't really know. Pop country is like one of the genres that I stay away from. Yeah, it's horrible. All country I'm into, I love, you know, like I love, you know, an old country. You know, obviously, we listen to the highwaymen, you know, all those guys' careers, you know. But, you know, the newer stuff, like, even pop country in the 90s, I.
Starting point is 00:27:08 kind of stayed away from. Sure. And even to this day, like, because my wife loves all that stuff. And, you know, it's good. But, you know. Pop country in the 2000s and 2010s is arguably the worst thing that's ever been created on Earth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I would say pop country now, and this kind of opened the door for Beyonce, there's a lot of trap beats. There's a lot of hip-hop. And EDM. And EDM. Marshmellers top the country charge. Diplo's top the country charge. And that's made it, you know, where there is like a window to do a bank.
Starting point is 00:27:38 It is kind of a banger. The funniest video I've seen, it opens with the phrase, This ain't Texas. And there was a dude standing in the kitchen, and it said, point of view, you just told me we're pregnant, what are we going to do? And when she hits, This Ain't Texas, he gets his debit card out. Yeah. I mean, I've seen so many of them.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's like these old Texas mammals and pappaws, like line dancing to the Beyonce, and it's been super fun. But did you know that this is her on-spot? at least. This is her number one biggest streaming song. It's actually the first one she's had that went like global number one streaming on Spotify. That may be because she was on title exclusively until well after Lemonade came out, but that is still impressive. Does that count Destiny's Child? Because if that counts Destiny's Child, that is going to fucking blow my mind. You know, you just made a really good point about title that I hadn't considered. As with anything, I just saw that headline and was like, well, that's what I know. It's still crazy. It's still crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I love the Renaissance album. The last album she did. Oh, that's right. I thought it was a dance album. It was great. That one may have debuted on Spotify, which would blow the point I just made out of the water show. I figured that what that is after lemonade.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah. Yeah, it's all right. So let me. Point to Ed and Corey. You are correct? That is mind-blowing. Oh, don't give me no credit, dude. I just read it on Instagram and farted out of my mouth.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Also, does this head look bigger? Who, Corey's? Yeah, he's like he's floating separate. Oh, okay, he's leaning in. The head is so thin now. It could be that, yeah. There is that. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 00:29:12 You're fat again. I hate when we lose fatties. He's mad at you, Corp. I'm fat. I've been telling him. I've been telling him. Look, you look great. I'm sick of this shit.
Starting point is 00:29:26 For me, I look great. For me... Yeah, you look great. Head still back. Thank you, that's huge. It wasn't even a fathead comment. It was like... I thought he had a fish eye lens or something.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Because of his whole Zordon situation. Yeah, he's like floating up there. If I could have it just be his head, I would do that. Like, that would be my preference. In life. I've got a, hold on now. I've got a green, green man suit and a green screen. I could put it the green screen behind me and put a green suit on and just have my head
Starting point is 00:29:56 and we could fix it in post. What would we put you in? What would you put you in? What would your head float in? The Vat. The Zordon thing. Yeah. So, Ed, I would.
Starting point is 00:30:08 wanted to ask just about the logistics. You know, I have children and everything, but I don't even think it's just that. I don't know what happened. Like, you obviously know, like, a lot of music, right? I love it. So you probably have, you have to spend a lot of time listening to music, right?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. Do you also, do you listen? You're a podcaster? Do you listen to podcasts? Never. Never. I was hoping. My mask.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Really? I fucking can't stand them either, did it? I don't know. I was never a talk radio guy. I was driving around my dad and he put talk radio and I always make them change. I thought, see, I had gotten the impression. For the record, I love podcasts. I just love the ads like, yeah, I'm in the business, but fuck that.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Right. It hits for me too. I always, I just thought that I never liked talk radio either, but I just thought that like every like millennial around my age when we hit like 36, it was like, well, we all listen to podcasts now because that seems to have been my. I've tried general experience because that's, I listen. If I'm cooking, also again, I have kids and shit. doing homework, whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:08 If I'm cooking dinner, I can have one headphone in and be listening to a podcast, but I'm not going to listen to music and just one headphone, but I can't put both headphones in and just tune my family out for an hour or whatever. So like, I just, do you not lose the plot? I mean, sometimes, and I'll just rewind it, but I'm saying they're not always talking to me. I hate podcasts. Like, I don't know. I just became a podcast guy.
Starting point is 00:31:31 But also it's just like such a, I don't know, it started to feel like, I started to fall behind on things that had come out that I knew I wanted to listen to and I hadn't yet. And it started to feel like I had homework assignments or something that I hadn't got to. And then eventually, and then one day I was just like, I think I'm just going to quit. I think I'm just going to listen to my, like, you know, like working out, I listened to pretty much DMX's first three albums. When you're working out, you won't guarantee hits. And there's no. My man, that he knows it all.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That is a deep fucking cut. Did he have any remorse? Hell no. I don't want to keep going. Hell no. No remorse. Oh, dude. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Oh, God, I love him so much. Me too. I love you guys. He's so best. Such a great pool. You guys are my favorite friends I never see. That is, I think, the hardest rap song of all time. It is the hardest rap song.
Starting point is 00:32:22 That was a great bar. Yeah. That is what's going on with you in music. You just said you are my favorite friend group I never see. Yeah. You've, like, cut a friend out of your life because they were hard. to keep up with, which I guess is fine. Do you not feel that podcasts feel like homework?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Because to me, that's part of why it's like, it's like a TV show where you got to keep up with the plots, but like it's not as good. I don't, it doesn't blow my mind that you like podcasts. It doesn't blow my mind that you've cut out music. That together's blowing my mind. How are you keeping up with podcasts, but you don't have the energy to keep up with new music?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Also, you've made this point, and then therefore we have sent you new music, and you still are like, no, I'm good. Yeah. We've done the work for you. We have been the Pac-Man Jones assistant putting gas in the car, and you're still not driving the car. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I just, again, when I'm home, I cook dinner pretty much every night, and so I'll turn a podcast on for that. I mean, pretty much just that, really. Or if I'm, now when I'm driving, like, if I'm driving, I'll put on a podcast instead of, like, listening to music. that's crazy how do you chill like how do you put your arm out the window and like enjoy the flow of the air yeah dude audio books
Starting point is 00:33:42 audio i mean oh god that's just the narrative i read harry potter it's super relaxing all right ed you're a smart guy and you're a good guy i'm kind of smart when your friends say something like what they just said and when we were 13 we would have been like gay what do we say now fuck you fuck you
Starting point is 00:33:59 He said an audio book with his arm out the window, dude. Harry Potter. I've seen that guy do meth, and he just said that. Yeah, but okay, here's the deal, though, because now I have kids, too. The only driving I do is across the highway to get to the park where I'm just going to put my headphones in and listen to my audio book. So, yeah, I will admit that usually it's just satellite radio over to there, but it's often Conan radio. or Howard Stern, because I have just gotten to where, like, I like talking more. Now, I will say, and this is Point Drew all the way, Point Drew and Ed, this past,
Starting point is 00:34:40 for the past couple weeks, you know, full disclosure, my brain's been doing whatever it does that don't hit, trying to kill me, you know, all that stuff. And I decided, I was like, I'm not listening to anything I have to really pay attention to. I'm not doing podcasts. And I've been listening to music again. Remember Drew the other day, I text you? I was like, what's some new albums that hit, right? I was going to ask you about that.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And you put me on J-I-D. And, bruh, I've had, now I did pull some tray and just went back to some standard classics. I've got my fucking dude. So I listened to a lot of butt rock. And I was scrolling through Spotify and I saw this playlist and it said, Divorce Dad Music. I'm subscribed to that playlist. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Starts. It starts with that. Then you get a duster like Isbel did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We think this will hit for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And I've had a great couple of weeks. Couple of weeks just listening to music and turning my brain off. So, like, you're not wrong. You remember when you used to get those Google ads that were somehow studying your algorithm, and sometimes it would be a little depressing because sometimes it would be very on point, but then sometimes it would be like, do you need dick pills? Are you lonely? And you're like, damn, my taste on the algorithm.
Starting point is 00:35:49 So playlist is doing that now. That's funny. Yeah, you're going to get one tomorrow that says bald guys who like rap and say the N-word when they're alone in their car to the music. Yeah. coming. Did you do you enjoy anything? Did you try Susto? I've been trying to get both
Starting point is 00:36:05 I love Susto. Dude, that new I had tickets. They played the Trubidor and I was out of town. I lost my mind. I gave him my buddy and then he didn't go. I'm fucking furious. Now I'm serious. I didn't get those tickets. What is Suston? Me and Susto fucking each other on Instagram. So I have heard Susto and I like it, but I just
Starting point is 00:36:21 listen to the JID. That's all I had time for. But I haven't listened. Unless every now and then on Susto, like they'll post shit on Instagram, so I'm certain that I've heard the new stuff, you know, but I'm definitely going to holler at that, because if I'm not mistaken, you said, like, this is the best one of these four recommendations I sent you.
Starting point is 00:36:39 So that album is my favorite album other than maybe CVC, which is like a tie, I can't forget which one. And it lasts like three or four years. Is that the one with the rainbow on it? Yeah, it's kind of abstract. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that one. No, I think the one after that. Oh, okay. I I only listen to the rainbow one. I like the rainbow one.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I remember what it's called. The new one is called, I think it's called My Life. Okay. Man, there's some brutal fucking songs on there. I love this shit. And Susto, I think, is a guy to answer your question. I think it's like American Aquarium. There is a band.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, but even if it changes the guy is, I think, Susto. So, what else you have for Eddie? So I have two things. Oh, Beyonce thumbs up. I didn't get to say. Yeah, I'm in. Let's do it. As both a black entertainer and a pop entertainer, quote-unquote,
Starting point is 00:37:25 crossing over, super in. It's also apparently, this is a hand. how big Beyonce has real quick. It's like giving a boost to other black country musicians and artists who are great, but just like overlooked by this or that, whatever it is. It's like suddenly people are like
Starting point is 00:37:40 people who don't pay attention. Black people are doing country music. It's like, yeah, they've been doing it. Check this out. Charlie Crocket. Charlie Crockett. I do know him. Didn't I know he was black until like two months ago. Didn't I say it in the text? We were trying to name the black country artist
Starting point is 00:37:57 because Corey was saying it's like black people when they get in the country, they hit too hard to make any of that bullshit. And I was like, look, I'll do respect to black people, but I know of a few of them that make, his boy, Kane Brown. Kane Brown's from his neck. That's Corey's friend. Yeah, Kane Brown. There's a dude named Jimmy Allen, who I met in Nashville at this BBC radio thing we both did.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Oh, yeah. And he was a nice guy, and I put him on the, I was like, but he makes pop country shit. And then I was like, what happened to him? I went and Googled it. And he got, he did some, you know. Fucked up shit? Yeah, yeah, I got accused of it anyway. Gotcha, let's move on.
Starting point is 00:38:32 The sexual variety. I don't know the specifics, but anyway. Speaking of crime, I'll connect that in a minute. We'll come back to that last one because I know we can dive in on that one. This segment could be really shorter, could be really long. But this is something that came up in a text thread, and I just want to do it, which is words that you find pretty, but they have a terrible or bad meaning, or the reverse. words that are just like ugly words, but what they mean hits. To give you some
Starting point is 00:39:01 examples, I'll start. I am in love with the word recidivism. It's crunchy. I like the way it feels in my fucking mouth. It's hard to say. Recidivism. Yeah. But if you do hit it, it feels like you're dancing. I feel like if you, that's a argument winner, that word. You know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's always you win an argument when you.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Well, you failed to consider the recidivism rates in the state of Vermont, judge. For anybody who doesn't know, recidivism is the rate with which people return to prison after they have been released. America has one of the highest in the world. Yeah, we have a high recidivism, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And that's ridiculous and sad and awful. Yes. Love the word. And then on the flip side, I think the word boat is an ugly word, speaking of the boat boys. Yeah. I love boats.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Yeah. Love boats. Boat. Boat. It's barely not poop. Yeah. It is barely not poop. You're right.
Starting point is 00:39:54 boat is barely not poop. I wrote some down. You've made me think about this because I never actually thought about this as a concept. While you're looking it up, credit to someone else, a video Corey shared is what got us on this. A girl, I think cheekily said malaria would be a good girl's name if it didn't
Starting point is 00:40:10 mean malaria. I do think malaria is a pretty... She said diarrhea too. Yeah, that's why I think she was doing a bit. I think she kept going out. She definitely was doing a bit. She ended with slavery, a black person, ended with slavery. So I think she was doing a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Diary is not really.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I like myocardia. Ooh. What's that mean? That's a hard thing. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Mesothelioma. My dad's an idiot. How about, I would say it, bidet.
Starting point is 00:40:38 That's a pretty word. It's a pretty word. Because it's French. And you're saying it's ugly because of the poop. Because it cleans asses. It tries your butthole off. Yeah. Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:40:46 But it does make your but hole pristine. I have a bidet. Shout out Tushy for sponsoring me. I had to get rid of my bidet. Too cold. Oh. You should have got the toe. sushi ace where you can heat up the water.
Starting point is 00:40:59 That's good. I'm glad I got you to help your plug. It's French. That's a great move, Ed, doing a French word. Because most French words are pretty. I also put toilet on the list. You think it's a pretty word. I think it's a pretty word. Toilbert.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Toilette. That's also French. Toilette. Toilette. Toilet. I don't know if toilet. I do. You ever notice?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Turlet. Turlet. Turlet. In Texas. Restrooms always say toilet I don't know if you ever notice that Also England England? England and Texas
Starting point is 00:41:30 England I mean they call them Luz But I'm saying you don't go to the bathroom You go to the toilet Oh right What about commode Where'd that come from? Yeah, I like commode
Starting point is 00:41:39 Where'd that come from? That's old school That's a papal You know it's an old person If they say Camode I gotta go to commode My bowes is tore up Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:47 And the moon hits your That's a pap ball Sorry What's it and I looked at an heroin. Oh, that's a great one, dude. Very nice word. It is a pretty word.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It's almost as pretty as I imagine it feels. Well, it also means a female hero. Which also sucks. You're right. Also, yeah, the drug, way more fun. And both will ruin your goddamn life. Put you to sleep, too. Polly.
Starting point is 00:42:23 You get more Southern when you're misogynistic. Of course. Actually, you don't even have to think about it. It just happens. I know. It's not even a bigger doing it. I don't think. Keith Richards took advantage of it.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Oh, God. Fuck, dude. Oh, man. Corre said polypup. Pollop is a fun word and you don't want those. That's for sure. You guys have any reverse? I only had boat. That's something I could think of.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Weed. That's a good one. Weed. The weed bong, you know, all that shit. You know? Well, this is a, this is a cliche. Tons of people pointed this one out,
Starting point is 00:42:57 but a whole lot of people really, really, really do not like the word moist. But, like, you're talking like cake and shit like that. Yeah. Moist is what's up. I want my heroin. Yeah. Moist is like a good thing generally. But the word don't bother me.
Starting point is 00:43:10 The word don't. Not really, but I know a lot of people really hate it. I love it. Because I always think of cake. Yeah, right. Cake and vaginas. Yeah. It's what you want.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I always think cake, though. I always want pussy. there you go well now they call ointment that's a tough one ointment yeah yeah that's an ugly word yeah but they you know you don't really yeah I guess it heals
Starting point is 00:43:33 but it also goes on something disgusting that might be part of a secrete yeah oh good one that's like a French person that's not telling you something I have a secrete but you're saying that's a pretty word and ugly thing or an ugly word and a pretty thing yeah when something secrete's normally
Starting point is 00:43:50 it's kind of gross like a cyst or I was back to Poll up like they're secreting, you know. But you like the word secrete. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like it should be you know, it's pretty. Along the lines of what that lady was saying, I don't think she said either of these,
Starting point is 00:44:06 but I think that I think travesty and catastrophe are both cool words. Yep. I think decimate is a cool word. Decapitation. Yeah. Decapitate. Defenestriot. I love that.
Starting point is 00:44:22 The finish straight. Thefinestrate is one of my favorite words. Every dude knows to fennestrate. Throw that motherfucker out of goddamn window. Anytime like Putin or something comes up, I get excited because I'm like I can slide the finestrade in here. We need to put that on a t-shirt somehow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Defendistrate Putin? There you go. That's fine. The finestrate is just like a, that's kind of just like, that's a cool word and a good pull, right? It's not like, right? No, I mean, that is a bad thing. want to be thrown out of window. No. Joe Walsh defenestrated a TV out of a hotel window last night. Would have sounded
Starting point is 00:44:58 so much better. Yeah. You said that because of that badass thing he said about AI, didn't you? I did, yeah. What you said? Somebody asked, like, Joe Walsh, do you worry about AI, like replacing the songwriters or musicians? And he said, you can't teach AI to throw a TV out of a hotel window. I love Joe Walsh, man. He's a big comedy fan. Did you ever see him with the Who's Line Is It Anyway, guys, right? Yeah, we've talked about this. We both have parties.
Starting point is 00:45:23 They used to, we're such nerds. We loved, me and my buddies loved Hoosline. We used to play Hoosline games in the basement and stuff like that. And, uh, like, a lot of people, I don't think remember or maybe even knew at the time. But I think it was a separate thing. Those cast members from Hoosline, they used to do pay-per-view events, which were not Hoosline episodes, but it was them doing like uncensored improv games. Paperview Improles, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And it was. People liked it. It was crazy. But think about who it was. Colin Mockrey. It's phenomenal. And then there's like such a short gap and it's terrible. And so we would get those.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Those and like WWF paper views are the two types of paper views we got, which is, you know, an odd spectrum. But they would have ghosts or they would have guests like big guests and Joe Walsh. They brought him up there and did some games with him. He was doing the music. Yeah, that's right. And then he only did the last game of the nine. and it was a story game and it was I mean he was the funniest one
Starting point is 00:46:24 he's got that voice yeah yeah yeah he talks like a smart no because part of why he was murdering is he wasn't trying to be funny the way that they were okay I remember one thing but his voice was so a lot of it was non sequiters like they had a little narrative going that had nothing to do with breakfast as I recall and then it's his turn and he just goes like
Starting point is 00:46:43 you know you can have yourself some shit what do you say it was like now I was baking and eggs he was like he was like you have Have yourself some bacon and eggs if you got some bacon and also some eggs. I know it sounds like I'm butchering it, but it wasn't really that far off from that. But the way it's like, you know, he just like made a statement out of nowhere about breakfast food in his voice that had nothing to do with what they were talking about.
Starting point is 00:47:08 So the game was, he did a lot of that type of shit. The game was like if somebody points at Trey, he starts a story. Then he points to you and you keep going with the story. Then he points to me and you keep going to the story. And then you point to Joe Walsh. And I remember they pointed him at one point. it was like because and he just goes she had worms in her brains
Starting point is 00:47:25 and it made no sense and it murdered do you remember his sketch on his album the wan-waz no yeah yeah here comes a clock of wams a bunch of wangwaiwaiwaiwaiwai that's the whole thing
Starting point is 00:47:43 and uh it was like that was he was kind of hitting it like that yeah my favorite Joe Walsh story that I've ever heard from someone who was there when it happened was our buddy Magic Mike he had done he had done a party he's a magician and he had done Brad Paisley's birthday party and he was telling us about it and he showed us he showed us his piece like yeah man I got to hang out with Joe Walsh and so he flips his camera and it's a selfie that he took with him and Joe Walsh
Starting point is 00:48:10 and Joe Walsh's dress head to toe like the Pope right and I go oh it was a costume party and he goes, nah. That's amazing. Good for him, man. Worms in her brain. All right, are we done with the word thing? We're moving on to the next one. Are we got any more words that we left out, fellas?
Starting point is 00:48:35 I barely know any words. Okay. I mean, I can think of words that I like, but they don't fit the description. They don't fit the thing. They're just words you like. Yeah. They're not bad necessarily. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Like, you know. Obviously, you're aware. I like ostensibly a lot. You do like ostensibly a lot. Another word I like is a preternatural. I've always like that. What does that happen? Just like really good.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Like, if you got a preternatural ability to be funny on command, it just means you like very naturally gifted at that thing. But say, you can easily just say that. I would say I'm the type of person who would rather say the other word. Yep. And that's a thing with me. Well, we have a proclivity for that. that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:49:17 He does. Anyway. Move on to the next one? I guess. All right. Well, I think it would be fun for us to discuss, less his monologue, and honestly, less what happened that led to this being big news, because we've done that before on here. But I think it'd be interesting to discuss the reaction to Shang Gillis.
Starting point is 00:49:39 As far as I know, the second stand-up comic in a few years, along with Nate Bargazzi, who's just a stand-up comic who doesn't have a movie coming out or anything like that Gerard Carmichael did it but that may have been like three or four years ago now. I think that was four or five years ago now. Jesus Christ. He also had a TV show and he didn't at the time
Starting point is 00:49:59 though. Oh really? I remember him talking about he had that special coming out where he came out the special where he came out and that was coming out and that was what he hosted it for. His show had been over. Also full disclosure I just read that tire shop mini show that Shane did is about to come out on Netflix
Starting point is 00:50:17 as a full sitcom. So that's probably why they did it. He's about to have a sitcom. Anyway, the reaction to the Shane Gillis hosting of SNL for people who don't know, Shane Gillis, and I'm sure most people who listen to know, was hired at SNL and then fired
Starting point is 00:50:33 before he ever started because some clips emerged of him on a podcast. He says doing a character that he does often. Part of the controversy was people who didn't know anything about shame were like, well, there was no different voyage. You just started, he just started saying a slur for Asians, multiple times.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And he was saying like, yeah, but I was being the guy who does that. Anyway, he got fired. Now his star has risen and he's been brought back as host. His star has risen because he got fired. If you even want to, you want to. I would agree with that, but I would add to it. I would agree with that 100%. I would add to it, though.
Starting point is 00:51:11 But he lived up. to it with the first two specials. That Austin special is one of the five or six best I've seen in years and the one he just put out is very good and Andy watched it having no clue about any of this or giving a fuck just because she wanted to because she had seen
Starting point is 00:51:26 some clip and she laughed the whole time. He's super hilarious. Now he's an amazing comedian and I do appreciate that he's an agent of chaos it seems like and I'm down with that. Well my first takeaway from watching the responses online it's so funny to me that his
Starting point is 00:51:42 the people who really love him, and they'd, like, think he's a hero. Right. Because he says, like, gay. But see, here's the... And then the people who hate him, neither of them seem to be able to admit that he just did okay in that monologue.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Like, you look online and people are like, he bombed, and then somebody else is like, he fucking tore it down. And I'm like, he himself was like, I did fine. And neither of you can admit it. You can't admit it pretty good as most people do. Right. I'm not trying to disparage him.
Starting point is 00:52:08 My point is... Yeah, I've heard it from a million people on fly on the wall that, like, you know, aside from the prestige of hosting S&L, that monologue is not a fun gig to do. Of course. It's a hard room. Yeah. I'm not trying to disparage him.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I'm saying it's so funny to me that people who already hate him can't admit he did pretty good. And then people who are obsessed with him can't admit he did pretty good. My thing with, right, Shane is that like, like you said, people, they're, he's like their hero. Like, he's like, it's wild. He's like a god to this certain subsect of American culture. culture or whatever that's like, you know, pro free speech, anti-woke, all this shit. And they're like, this guy's, this guy's single-handedly taking down cancel culture and he's saving the comedy and all this type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And it's like, that would lead you to believe that he's out there being super, super anti-woky and really pushing the envelope and saying all kinds of wild shit all the time and not giving a fuck. But I don't think that he really does that. I think that he didn't. And I feel like he, like, in that moment. He had a thing where he was gay, remember when you were gay? But the bit, what the premise of the bit was, every little boy is his mom's gay best friend.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And that's a funny premise. And then the jokes that he wrote for it made it play because they tracked with the premise. It was like any, I told them it's like, I couldn't come up with that. I haven't come up with that. But like, I'd do that in front of our liberal-ass crowd. And I wouldn't think twice about it. Yeah. And then he said, he said retarded in it, but he said it in the context.
Starting point is 00:53:42 of his niece being called that by a bully who then gets his ass whipped and it's just as served because the bully is the bad guy who says that. So it's like in context, he's not doing all that like anti-social justice warrior shit that they deify him for doing. He's just like delivering funny material. But I appreciate that. He didn't single-handedly take down cancel culture. He single-handedly prove that it is not real.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Thank you. That's exactly what he did. I just want to say, though, one thing, not even pushback, because I agree with you, but I do think that joke was calculated. Precisely because his defense of what got him canned from Saturday Night Live was that he was doing exactly what he did in that joke, which is say the word as a character. And he even, in my opinion, gave the game away a little bit. Because in the joke, what he says was he's talking about a niece having three adopted black brothers who beat up the kid who. who calls her retarded. And he's like, yeah, and then just three black kids come in and beat that cracker's ass.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And then people start clapping and he goes, that's right. I said Cracker. And it's funny. Yeah, of course. But I'm saying that, to me, that was very calculated. To me, that's exactly why the joke works. It's like, yeah, you see how you can laugh in context? We can all do that if the context is.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And that, I think, is part of why they deify him is that he's not. Like, I'll give him some credit in the sense of, they do act like he's doing a thing he's not doing but i also think that's why they like him yeah because he's not a guy who's up there like clap for me because i hate cancel culture they like those guys too yeah but they like Shane because he's funny yeah well Shane's actually very talented I wanted to not like him he's I tried hard to not like him to be honest with you fair and uh and I and I just watched this shit and he's fucking hilarious he's so funny and he seems like a cool guy to hang out with you know I'm friends with his friends I don't I never met him yeah us too you know
Starting point is 00:55:40 I don't know him at all. But he seems like a stand as I've given my time to learn about him, he seems like a really cool guy, to be honest with the end. When that first clip came out, I said, and I stand by this, from the clip alone, and I didn't go listen to the whole episode, I didn't want to, I can't as a comedian defend this. Yeah. And I still feel that way.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I didn't understand what the joke was that they were going for. He just kept saying that Chinatown was full of. Yeah. Well, I mean, here's what I think about that. I think that as someone who said a lot of things that they wished they didn't say 20 years ago and do a microphone. Right. That's what I was you saying.
Starting point is 00:56:17 You know, like, so I, you know, I've definitely like bit on that. You're just like when you're younger, you just do straight shock shit before you learn at a craft a joke properly and be funny, you know, and I think that he got caught up, he got exposed for that. I think that if I ever got on SNL, that I would be canceled, you know, so. Sure. And so I think that, you know. I'd probably be arrested by the after.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yeah. Yeah. Let's not get into that. Mitch McConnell. Yeah. So I'm, you know, I'm happy for him that he's able. I like a redemption story, man. I think it's really cool that he was able to, like, come back.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And it seems like he's really, you know, I know he doesn't still do it. Right. Well, what I wanted to get into on that note, too, and we're getting closer, I guess, running out of time is just comedy in general. So, like, where are we? He didn't save comedy. It's like people who are saying. are weird. And then you got people on the other side who were like, well, this is the end of
Starting point is 00:57:14 S&L. You know, I'll never watch again. It's like, well, if you're 45, you're not watching it. By the way, they had Trump post. So where you fucking stand? Yeah, exactly. They helped get them elected. Well, someone made the biggest ratings in 20 years. Someone made the point two, 21 Savage was the musical guest. And I love rap music. I'm not disparaging it. But like, his lyrics are sometimes very pro dealing drugs and killing people. So like, well, yeah. So was Jay-Z. Right. That's rap. But where are we? in comedy now. Like, can we, are we close to putting this to bed,
Starting point is 00:57:45 which is like the constant debate of the morality of, let's take Shane out of it, just in general, are we getting there, or is it about to get worse? Like, are we dug the fuck in? Because I'm seeing people get, grow tired of it, but I'm also seeing people dig in more. I think there's
Starting point is 00:58:00 enough for everybody, comedy-wise. Right. Like, no matter what you're a fan of, you just follow that person. You know, I think we're, there's so much, there's more comedy than there's ever been, in of time, like today, you know, and tomorrow there'll be more, you know. And so it's just, I think that you find your person and you stick to them. But they like Shane, they like Shane. They like, you like, you like Maria Bamford. You're like Maria Bamford, you know, like, and so just
Starting point is 00:58:22 stick to your person and support them. And then, you know, that, you know, if you spend all your day hating Shane and finding reasons to hate Shane, you're not a smart person in my mind, you know, like, I'd much rather, you know, I don't like, or worshiping out of. Yes. You know, like I... Or worshiping. Yeah. Yeah. I don't worship...
Starting point is 00:58:41 Anyone who worships one thing, whether it's God or Led Zeppelin, I don't trust you. You know, like, it's fucking, you know... One is cooler than, you know. One is cooler than, for sure. One only fucked one chick as far as we know. She was 14, so God's a little problematic. That's a great point. But, um...
Starting point is 00:58:59 No, I... But what about when someone big gets something like SNL or host to the Daily show and then they lose it because they've been lying their whole career or whatever, which is what just happened to Osama Nage? Like, are we going to get to a point in comedy where the big jobs aren't a moral, you know, there's a moral part of this job search? I think that's already happened and that's always going to happen, you know, and, you know, I think that's fine, you know, but I think there's a line.
Starting point is 00:59:27 You know, I think saying a slur when you're in a not as intelligent, up-and-coming comic is one thing is different than raping someone, you know, like I think it's a, big, I think it's a, I think it's a much, I think it's a much different. That's a great fucking point. If we're being for real, though, you're talking about them big jobs. I think if we're going enough far in the future, the future of comedy is like, those big jobs won't even really be a thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:53 Like, with dudes like, look at what Rogan's doing. Look at what Shigur and Bird are doing. Like, that's kind of, to me, the future is like, comedians realizing like, hey, we've got more power than we ever have. So we don't have to worry about getting fired by NBC. get your following, start your own fucking YouTube, do your own thing, they'll come to you. Like, I, you know, I don't know. Like, I don't know if people are going to be as worried about, like, who's going to be
Starting point is 01:00:17 the new host of the Tonight Show in 10 to 15 years? I could be wrong. I just don't think it's going to be as big of a fucking deal. Yeah, I'd be some robot fucker, you know. Yeah. As long as that robots of age, Trey. Yeah. You know, and, you know, at risk of ruining my life, you know, I think executives don't know
Starting point is 01:00:36 shit. What if he'd have set a slur right there? But, you know, I think they don't know anything, and I think that now, like, there is... They also don't care about anything, by the way. They don't care. And, you know, they're nice, occasionally, you know, whatever. But, like, the thing is, you know, unless they were formally a comedian, you know, I don't think they know much. Jordy Fox was formerly a comedian.
Starting point is 01:01:00 He's really cool. And, but the rest, I don't trust any of them. Right. You know, like, how did you get job. You don't, there's no college class to becoming a TV. No, your parent, your parent probably knew somebody who hired you on as their assistant. Then you were that person's assistant for a while before you, you know, then just moved up from it through there and went to the right college and so lucky. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 To be able to just like reach straight out to the people who love us and they can like reciprocate directly to us. And I think we are fucking blessed. And it is like, I think times have changed. And personally, I don't even. I haven't looked at a packet in years. I don't give a fuck anymore. I don't, I'm not trying to be a TV writer.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I had an epiphany. I'm like, why am I trying to do this? I hate television. You know, like, why am I trying so hard? You know, like, what are we doing here? Like, you know, like last podcast on the left, I'm sure you guys too, a lot of TV shows don't get the numbers we get. And so it's like, you know, it's like, well, what am I even doing? Why am I trying to do something that's technically worse?
Starting point is 01:02:02 You know, and so. Health insurance. I have health insurance. Oh, yeah, dude. they give it to me it's nice you know it's so it's fucking yeah i don't know why i don't know it's like take it from them like let's all be our own masters and i think it's like it's kind of what happened in the 70s when the studio system for the movies collapsed you know and all these like really cool adventurous movies got made you know like all those great jack nicholson movies we love like five
Starting point is 01:02:25 easy pieces you know like and i think that's oh i didn't know the history of that stuff that's awesome i think that's where we're heading back to in this decade i think a lot of people are going to be making their own shit and it's going to be really cool esther's movie just came out it looks really good it's only playing in like a couple theaters but you can tell it's going to be like a cult classic it's going wide after uh in march is it oh yeah oh nice jorny fox works here by the way oh he does yeah yeah i love jorty by the way that was god everybody listening and uh her just talking shit a minute ago yeah and uh so it's uh i think it's i think it's i think we're taking it back man hell yeah and i think the crowd loves it personally and i think that's
Starting point is 01:03:03 why Shane's so popular and I think that's why y'all are so popular what a fucking perfect answer and callback you just did everything I wanted you to do in terms of like this we need to discuss this bigger than Shane and then you did that and you circle back dude that was fucking phenomenal perfect way to end did I say because we are over an hour so Eddie it was great to see as always tell a well everyone knows last podcast and a left but check out my other bright my other podcast I do called the brighter side I do it with Amber Nelson one of the funniest people in the world in the world It's a really great. Our Twitch channel, LPNTV, is super cool.
Starting point is 01:03:37 We're going to be booking all you fellows soon. And we'll be coming by doing, I got a new show coming up there around in May called the Hoopagoo Goo Goo Game, which is basically a rapid positivity talk show or a game show. And then I get in check out my movie, How America Kill My Mother is what I was doing when I was promoting last time I was on the show. And it's still out there. And it's, you guys are amazing in it. And thank you again for. doing that for me and not, you know, making me pay you. Absolutely. You made, I won't throw this on Tray, but you made me look way smarter than I am. Well, yeah, I mean, you, you, both,
Starting point is 01:04:13 all you guys are intimidatingly smart. All three of you. So I appreciate you let me in the house. Thanks for those plugs. Thanks for coming on, buddy. Thank you. I'll be in Denver, March 15th and 16th at the Denver Comedy Lounge. My next date after that's not until June, so I'll plug that later. Come see me, Denver. I'm in Indianapolis this weekend, and then I got Winchester and D.C. next weekend, and then a bunch of other places coming up after that. So go to Trey Crowder.com. Check them out. Come see me. Joe. March 2nd. If you're in the Chattanooga area, I will be at East Hamilton Middle School. Wrestling. My God. I'm in the Scenic City Royal Rumble, or I should say the Buttercream Dream is tickets are at S&I Wrestling.com. I thought you were just doing
Starting point is 01:04:59 commentary. You're going to physically wrestle. He's in the Rumble. I've been training, bro. Buddy. Very careful. Pac-Man, get my assistant. Fly me to Chattanooga. Right now, I'm going to watch this. You have to, we have to support him in this endeavor. But you have to be careful for him. He's going to crush it,
Starting point is 01:05:15 and that's great, or he's going to get hurt, and I also want to be there for that. Yeah, yeah. Just be loud. I know you could do that. Well, I am the only wrestler in the Royal Rumble that gets to come out with a live mic, so that's, there's going to be that. So, March 2nd, East Hamilton Middle School. for a good call. Good calls, fundraising because they're fucking school burnt down or some shit,
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