wellRED podcast - #384 - Motivational Speakers & Inner Monolouges.. Oh, & Also P. Diddy Talk!

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

(Timestamps at bottom of description!)   This week the boys talk about High School motivational speakers and their delusions of grandeur and reminisce about the Beta Club conventions! The conversatio...n also touches on the motivation behind power and fame, in regards to the current P Diddy Situation   Oh and btw did you know that some people have no inner monologue at all? We give our thoughts on that as well!   Check out our sponsors at LectricEbikes.com and tell em WellRED sent ya!   TraeCrowder.com for tickets   DrewMorganComedy.com for tickets   BonusCorey.com to support Corey’s other work!   00:00 Motivational Speakers and Delusions of Grandeur 16:34 The Motivation Behind Power and Fame 25:43 Electric E-Bikes and Motivation 28:03 Beta Club Conventions and High School Memories 31:07 High School Competitions 34:20 Beta Club and Key Club 37:03 Honors Societies and Boys State 44:21 Inner Monologues 51:20 Language and Perception 59:09 Gendered Language 01:00:07 Upcoming Shows and Podcasts 01:01:18 Putting on Airs Podcast  

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Starting point is 00:03:09 They're the... Usually all these people are like, listen, I could have had it all and I fucked up. Don't be like me. Don't do like I did. But this dude was got a parent. And he literally was like, be like me. Do what I did.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I crushed it. I'm awesome. I made straight a's at school. never smoked crack i never did this stuff my wife's hot my jeep hits be like me right like literally i'm not kidding he spent 10 minutes he probably spent 10 minutes talking about how kick ass his jeep was i'm not making that up they're the liberal rednecks they like cornbread but sex they care way too much but don't give a fun they're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset but they got Three big old dicks that you can sun.
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Starting point is 00:04:21 in their post-checkout survey. That's L-E-C-R-I-C-E-Bikes.com. Tell them, well, Red, sent you. All right, well, here we are. How young's doing? Great. You like my glasses? Yeah, I do like your glasses.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I don't believe you. You looked away when you said it. I like them. They're Wonderwall. Yeah, well, Wonderwall. These are Andy's glasses. They were in her car. I decided to put them on because I have a new goal.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I want to get called a douchebag by one of our fans once a quarter. Yeah, right. Oh, buddy, I just haven't sent you the emails. So you think I can do monthly? Holding those to himself. Oh, yeah. That's a great bit you just did, but there's a 0% chance. You got hate mail about me and you didn't show me or him.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That is correct. Do you all think you're going to listen, do you think you'll be, you will hear the song Dreams and Nightmares by Meek Mill any differently after finding out that he's been routinely. Porked in the butt. Porked in the butt by Puff Daddy, by Diddy. That's just the word on the street. That is word on the street. I knew it was Pete Diddled him. Yeah, he got Pete Diddled.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I know it was a rumor for a while that he vehemently denied in a very much like he doth protest too much type of way, in my opinion. But then like today, people are acting like it's been confirmed. There was, I saw people on Twitter shares like, this is an audio clip. Oh, that was rough, dude. Of them porking. Yeah. And I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I was like, yeah, I'll listen to that at 9.30 in the morning. But I did, and I didn't hear any identifying factors. It's like a text. I was a black guy. It's not like you could, they definitely, it definitely sounds like two black dudes having sex with each other. I've never heard a Y guy hit the N-word. If D.J. Collin had been one of them, you could tell it was him, but unfortunately he wasn't. No Y guy could hit the N-word the way they were heading it.
Starting point is 00:06:17 But like, I couldn't, I didn't hear anybody going, you know, take that, take that, take that, or anything. so it's like hard to identify either P. Diddy or Meek Mill in it. But what's the, I mean, real quick, I want to say you sent that. Yeah. And I'm so stupid. I was like, all right, I got to hear this. And open that at a coffee shop. Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's definitely, as the kids say, cheeks getting clapped all over the place.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And no headphones, trying to like do it quiet. And then a few people looked at me, so I like put the phone down and scrolled away. and then in the comments was just like massive amounts of pornographic gifs to be said on what we're calling those Pussy in bio this massive amounts of like
Starting point is 00:07:04 this is meekmill and p. Diddy and it's just a giant black dick butt fucking somebody yeah so I'm like now I'm trying to scroll away from that so I almost threw my phone anyway sorry what is the story because I'm not gonna lie no no I put the I
Starting point is 00:07:19 it was my reply Meek Mill, I thought, had some absolute bangers there for a while. I mean, dreams and nightmares was rad. That was like the official song of the Philadelphia Eagles' Cinderella Super Bowl run when Nick Folles in them because he's a Philly guy. Yeah, meek Mill, great. I'm just what I'm saying. So what's the, is the conceit?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah, gay people can, they're creative. That's not what I mean. Because he's not supposed to be gay, right? Yeah, I think the idea is like he, Harvey Weinstein. Exactly. Which is rape. And I'm saying, I'm saying that's kind of weird to me because I always thought like, oh, this dude hits.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Like, you would think that somebody who had to do that because the stance of, how are you going to be so boastful after you take it in the book? No, that too. That too, but what I mean, what I mean, that too, but what I mean is like, typically, if someone has to resort to that type of thing, they don't really hit that hard.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Correct. Like, isn't that the stereotype or whatever? Because I'm saying, Meek Mill is, like, really good, in my opinion. Right, but man, I mean. That's how competitive it is. It's just like, even when you hit real hard, you still have to do that. Think about how many fewer comedians there are than rappers. And I can think of like four people off the top of my head
Starting point is 00:08:26 who I don't think are getting their shine in the comedy game. So if there's a, so if there's probably 400 rappers like that. And also, you might not know how hard you hit at the age that you're susceptible to believing that you have to do that. Yeah. Does that make sense? The way I said that? So was he underage when this happened allegedly?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Oh, I don't know. I just mean like when you're young and you don't have platinum record yet, it's like you're told this is how this works. Can we be sued for just talking? We're just reporting the news here, right? Just they allegedly. These are the rumors. These are what people are saying.
Starting point is 00:09:06 We're not saying it happened. Buddy, if Meek Mill sued us, do you know how good for us that would be? That is true. Yeah, except for the maybe getting raked in court part. I mean, I know you a lawyer, but, you know. And busted by his home. homies, that also would not hit. That I don't like.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I do not desire being dusted. Well, I would be very clear. The way that the accusations have flowed so far, I'm firmly in the meek mill camp. Yeah. In terms of like, clearly a victim of some sort. Right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:33 My buddy Eagle Witt, great New York comedian already has, Eagle's so great at this where there's like a black culture moment. He's got a clip the next day. Uh-huh. That's fire. And the basis of this particular clip and joke that he put out is like, hey you guys remember a few days ago when we found out meat mill
Starting point is 00:09:52 got raped and we were all like damn meat mill gay and just how fucked up that is right yeah that is sort of how it got treated well we just sort of fell into that a little bit not in a like screw you because you're gay but we just sort of felt like
Starting point is 00:10:09 I think he just I think the accusation that's out there is like he just did it to get ahead well that's kind of why I was asking the question about the song like because I think I mean, I got like three of his songs on my workout playlist or whatever. Isn't there one where he shouts out, like, forgive me for what I did with Diddy? I don't know that song, but I did hear that clip.
Starting point is 00:10:25 What? Yeah, people were sharing that clip. And I think everyone thought back then it was like, oh, yeah, you did some songs with Diddy that didn't hit. Right. Yeah, but no. Like you sold out. Forgive me for selling out is what people thought that meant. No, because I wasn't trying to sell out.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Just like roast him. Yeah. Do you now know what it means to sell out, Corey? Yeah, I wanted to add. Look. You want to get fucking in the butt? I'm not defending the heart. the Harvey Weinstein's and P. Ditties of the
Starting point is 00:10:50 world, I'm just saying if I knew that in the blip of a butt fuck I could get my shit paid off, yeah, I'd probably do it. In the blip of a butt fuck? In the blip of a butt fuck. I mean... Joe Rogan, in my opinion, his
Starting point is 00:11:05 best joke, as far as his stand-up goes, is about Weinstein and it's that very joke. What he says is, if Harvey Weinstein did that to my daughter, I'd beat him to death with his own fucking arms. Yeah, but my son, congratulations, buddy, you're Batman.
Starting point is 00:11:22 That's a good line. Yeah, and again, like, obviously, those people are horrible. I'm just saying in a genie scenario where the genie's like, I'll give you everything you want, but unlike most genies, you've got to get butt-fucked before you get the wish.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I'd be like, all right. I don't think what I want in my heart. Unlike most genies. It's big enough. You rub a bottle of genie comes out, and he starts laying out the parameters, and then that part comes up. He's like, so listen.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Hear me out on this next part. I'm from a different range. I'm from a different region of genie lands. My family were poor genies. This is the best we can do, dude. And then, like, and then you do it, and then you find out it was just like some, like, you know, Middle Eastern pimp from Miami with a company.
Starting point is 00:12:11 With a smoke bomb? Yeah, with a smoke bomb. Yeah, right. Yeah. It's like, that wasn't a genie. Yeah. That wasn't Puff Daddy. Some black guy fucks Corey in the butt.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah, he gets the old record deal for it. Yeah, right. Rough Daddy. I make porn. I said I'd put you in porn. Oh, that would be rough. We filmed all this. Yeah, Puff Daddy was the first CD I ever bought with my own money.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Was it the, uh... Bad Boy Family, No Way Out. Was that the one that had every step you take? 1996. It was. Yeah, nobody. You can blame me for that, dude. But, dude, it had some bangers on it.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And what I didn't realize at 10, that, of course, everyone knows about Puff Daddy now. But I remember listening to that and being like, God damn, this dude's incredible, right? And then my dad, my dad heard some of it. He was like, that's just the police. That's just Grandmaster Flash or whatever, like, every single song on there. Right. Like, you know, we all know. He's a different kind of incredible.
Starting point is 00:13:11 We all know that rap sample shit. But, like, you know, Corey follows his Instagram account. He'll send me stuff sometimes. Some of the samples they do is its own type of artistic genius. They take one little piece of a song, play it down, flip it and reverse it literally or whatever, to slow it down, you know, way, you know, really slow. And you can't even tell it comes from that song anymore,
Starting point is 00:13:32 but it sounds rad as hell and it's super cool. But, like, dude, Diddy, though, he was just, like, putting raps over existing songs, essentially. But I didn't know any of those songs at 10. Yeah, his getting away with it, both musically and apparently in the bedroom is his talent. I saw Mace too talking about because you know, Mace do. When Mace came out with Harlem World in 1998, me and Thompson were fully on board with that
Starting point is 00:13:57 dude immediately. That's one of the biggest falloffs in all of rap. And also one of the most egregious examples of the Lord ruining a person, although in retrospect, maybe it wasn't the Lord. The story at the time was Mace, one of the best debuts of all time, Harlem World, top to bottom bangers. That's one of the best rap albums of the 90s, in my opinion. Rules.
Starting point is 00:14:15 highly anticipated follow-up. It was called double-up. Didn't really hit that hard. People were like, what's going on with Mason? He vanished after that because he found the Lord and started preaching. Massively disappointing. But I saw him on a podcast this morning laughing his ass off about all this diddy shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And talking about how like justice at last, justice at, he was like reparations and shit or whatever. And he was like. And he was saying, I don't think he happened to him. Diddy, why do you say that? Biggie Diddy wasn't big enough. That's the point. He wanted to. Do you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:48 I think he saw it in the hell. You think Diddy was big enough to promise that shit? In the hell yeah. Yeah. All right. I feel like that was the height of his, maybe not the height of his mogulness, but like the beginning of his peak of mogul tree was the late 90s. I like that sentence more than I like the idea of getting butt-fucked by Puff Daddy.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I'll tell you that. Yeah, that don't hit. That's the stance I'm taking. Wonder how he was on the set of them. Add it to the list. Remember, you know, he did some movies and he was funny as hell and that get him to the Greek or whatever. I'll remember that movie?
Starting point is 00:15:21 I mean, he's a psychopath. A lot of them are pretty funny. And he's like, you know what I mean? Jordan's six black kids where? Talking about how much money he needs to make to cover his nut or whatever. He was funny in that movie. I mean, Kevin Spacey is one of the greatest actors of all times and impressionists who was funny as hell.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I mean, Weinstein clearly had some sort of talent. Absolutely. Yeah, Weinstein. Cosby, bro. It was wild. Look, I think there's like a. thing going on when we end up discussing people like this. There are untalented evil people, but they can't do it to scale.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I was just trying to think of like a, okay. Does that make sense? Because I was just trying to think about like, I wonder what a talentless rapist or abuser thinks about those guys. Pure jealous. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, it's why, I don't know what I'm trying to say. They have that one thing in common, right?
Starting point is 00:16:12 And nothing else? But then some of these dudes just. like, you know, running the world and another guy's just behind the bowling alley. Do you think they try to run the world in order to get away with stuff? Or do you think, right? I was saying about this this morning, and here's, here was my theory. I'll just lay mine out and then you guys can give me yours or poke holes in mine. I think that a lot of people try to become super powerful so that they can do whatever they want. Like that's a part of the appeal. And then once they start to get there, whatever they want changes because
Starting point is 00:16:44 It's not exciting to do the thing that they've already been doing. Like, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like early on, yeah, I feel like early on, Weinstein just wanted to fuck chicks who were hot and young. Yeah. Then he wanted to fuck chicks who were hot and young. And eventually it was like, no, I want to fuck the famous hot young chicks who have to fuck me to get the roll. Like, do you know what I mean? But no, maybe it's like, that's what their goal from the beginning. So they get in that position of power.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm not sure. It's wild to have that big. Yeah, it's a real chicken or egg thing. know. Yeah, dude. Yeah. That's my thing with the Epstein Island thing. Like, you know, it's like, do they all want to fuck kids? There ain't no way. You know what I mean? Like, you ask like somebody that's getting into Hollywood or whatever. It's like, you know, are you doing this because you love it? Are you doing it to be famous? You're doing it because you want money. Because if it's any of the other two things, then, you know, you probably, I wouldn't advise it because you got to love it,
Starting point is 00:17:35 whatever. That's the type of shit you hear all the time. But it's wild for that person to be like, no, I'm doing it because I want to rule. I want to be able to, I want to abuse everyone at at my leisure and do whatever I want without any recompense whatsoever. Like, that's why I'm doing it. It's like that's a little, that one don't ever get mentioned as much as the other three motivations. Right. Clearly it must happen though.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Here's my theory that I just came up with the way you phrased that was nice is this life attracts most people. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people who would want to be in Hollywood, making movies, making, you know, being a storyteller. that's appealing to a large group of people. Let's say 60 to 70% of the world. And then you have to have a certain type of ego to think you could do it
Starting point is 00:18:21 to actually get into it, to like risk poverty or whatever. And it's like you keep narrowing it down. And then when you get to the point of people who are successful, now you've just found sickos. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. It's like a fuck ton of people want to be comedians or actors or writers or directors.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's powerful. It's sexy. It's cool. and then like inside that group the people who actually make it is a lot of psychopaths because they're just better anything they try it they're psychopats on wall street their cycle paths you know what i'm saying yeah but why it and then on wall street and stuff it's because like you i guess it applies to hollywood too they're just completely willing to do anything to fuck over anybody else or do anything it takes to further their own ends right and they just these people
Starting point is 00:19:05 just happen their ends just happen to be i want to be famous in dc their ends happen to be i want to control things. And in Wall Street, I just want money. Yeah, it is wild. I just wanted to remind everybody, catch everybody up. I've got the list here, just in case people had forgotten. Genocide, 9-11, Hitler, and now getting butt-fucked by P. Diddy, don't hit. Nope.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Those things do not hit. They don't hit. You heard it here first. You did. That's right. You probably did hear it here first. It's probably the only people who put that list together, and then said don't hit.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So speaking of motivation, there was something I thought up for the first time in years recently that I wanted to run by y'all and see if, A, you especially, Drew, if you ever encountered this guy, and B, what y'all think about this, is something from my childhood that I hadn't thought about since then, basically, and then remembered it recently. And I was like, that's weird and funny to me. So first of all, did y'all have motivational speakers come to your school or are you going like conferences or field trips. You ever see like motivational speakers
Starting point is 00:20:13 meant for school children? Right? High school, I saw one. And the power lifting guys, they count. Oh, those guys count. We had at least three or four. Powerlifters? No, I didn't have the power lifters.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Y'all had the ones that, y'all had power lifters? They ripped a phone week and a half, and then I'm pretty sure they liked Jesus. I was going to ask a fair for Jesus. They were. They were super Jesusy, so I was actually just thinking about them the other day because, yeah, they would come to our school. They were like, they all had like blonde hair and were ripped and like clearly all wanted to be wrestlers or something but didn't make it. And dude, when Lex, do what? That's the righteous, that's where the righteous gemstone's got that from. Oh, yeah. Like, confirmed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't have, though. They didn't make it to Salina on the circuit, I guess, because I didn't know that was a real thing. I mean, I'm not surprised it's a real thing. I just never encountered those people. Free town. Yeah. Well, the story goes that like Lex Lugar like towards the high. of his like WCW fame or whatever. They had like gotten him.
Starting point is 00:21:13 They claimed that they had gotten him to go on like a tour with him or whatever. And they promoted all this shit. Like we've got Lex Lugar. He's a super Christian or whatever. And this is all allegedly. But then like Lex Lugar just like fucking didn't go at all. And it was just calamity and everybody was pissed and just had to sit through the mediocre. Like Drew said, power lifters who were ripping phone books in half somehow in the name of Christ
Starting point is 00:21:38 our savior. There's a fat guy on the internet who's doing feats of strength for the Lord now, and he's not even ripped. A lot of this, he's very strong. The strongest people on earth are not ripped. But this guy's not... I mean, they're huge, but
Starting point is 00:21:53 they're not ripped. How do I need to explain what I'm trying to get at, though? This dude, like, was just at church one day and decided to do this, and then they started filming him and putting it out, and it's gone viral because it's so hilarious. He doesn't tour. This is for the Love at a game.
Starting point is 00:22:09 This is an indie artist. He's tearing phone books apart for Love at a Game. Yeah, he like rips chains. Yeah, that's wild. He picks up motors. So we had, maybe it's because we were more at risk or something. We had multiple instances of this. Like one guy, I was to, but I thought of this recently because I was talking to our buddy
Starting point is 00:22:27 Donnie Singstack about it. He was talking about where he went to school in Maryland, they had a bunch of these motivational speakers. And he was talking about a couple. He had, Katie's told me before about like a, like a Jesus he. cowboy singer guy that they had come through. She was like, you didn't know that guy? You didn't have that guy? And I was like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:22:44 But anyway, it's a thing. I've separated motivational speakers and Jesus speakers in my brain and maybe I should. The ones I'm talking about are not Jesus. Okay, okay. Like, there's two I remember. One of them was like a don't drive drunk was his message. And he was a former Tennessee Highway Patrolman, don't hit, right? Who had a teenage son who had a teenage son who.
Starting point is 00:23:08 was an honor student and had an Ivy League, opportunity, all this stuff, whatever, went to a high school party, got drunk, wrecked his truck and died, right? So it's like, no, it don't hit, but it's like this kid had this whole, was crushing it, fucked up, made his mistake, don't drink and drive kids. The other one was a guy, and I don't remember Mark probably had this dude's jersey or something because he played for the Dallas Cowboys in the 90s, right, when they hit real hard. But he wasn't one of the stars, obviously.
Starting point is 00:23:38 None of the stars came to fucking Salam. Michael Irvin didn't come to Salina. But he was like on the team in the 90s when they were hitting real hard and winning Super Bowls. And his story was like, you know, I had a shot. I was a backup. Then the guy in front of him left. He was a training camp or whatever. And he was going to get to start. And they were really good.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And he was dream was coming true. But he also got addicted to cocaine. Probably got it from Michael Irvin, I would imagine. Or just all of them, all of them at the time. But he got hooked on cocaine. Bill Bates. Is that a guy that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 He's a legend, though. I'm just asking. No, no, this guy was not, again, dude. He was at Salina High School. Like, he didn't. Right. He may not have even really played for the Cowboys, but this was the story. This was the story.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And anyway, he was hooked on cocaine. He got strung out on drugs, blew his shot. Now he's, you know, then he went broke, ended up in rehab, whatever. He could have been a superstar. He fucked it all up, right? They were usually like that. That's very par for the course. But there was another guy.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Okay. And I saw this guy at a. Beta Club convention, I think. And that's why I'm wondering if you saw him too. And this dude looked like, like, he was, I'm trying to think of someone to compare him to, he looked like a background character in the office or something or like, like he was not an immediately impressive dude. He looked like he had an accountant sort of vibe or whatever, but he was extremely confident and assertive. And his whole thing. And his whole thing. was like, usually all these people are like, listen, I could have had it all and I fucked up.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Don't be like me. Don't do like I did. But this dude was a pair. And he literally was like, be like me. Do what I did. I crushed it. I'm awesome. I made straight A's at school.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I never smoked crack. I never did this stuff. My wife's hot. My Jeep hits. Be like me. Like literally, I'm not kidding. He spent 10 minutes talking about how kick ass his Jeep was. I'm not making that up.
Starting point is 00:25:34 He had it lifted up. He was like doing a. slide show showing his pictures of it, climbing rocks and stuff. He's like, I want to do this job. I know. I know. I know. Scoring.
Starting point is 00:25:44 I know. Did he have like a career to point to outside of telling kids how much he is? Did I recall? That's hilarious. That's what I'm saying. It's so funny, right? Like I hadn't thought about that guy in 20 years. And I was talking to Donnie and I remembered him and I was like, dude, that's fucking
Starting point is 00:26:01 hilarious. That's so funny. And I don't know. I want to write that into a movie or a show or something or do a character. do a car. Me and Donnie were talking about how that... A short film, at least. That would make a good... I think that, like, the motivational speaker circuit
Starting point is 00:26:12 would make good fodder for a movie or a show or something, because... Isn't that part of Magnolia? Well, I mean, yeah. Well, Tom Cruise, he's more like the precursor to, like, these alpha male boot camp ships that are a thing now, but... Well, Tony Robbins is...
Starting point is 00:26:26 But, dude, please write a sketch and let me play that guy. Yeah, is that not... So, A, you don't know what I'm talking... You never saw that guy. It's a beta convention or whatever. I got a beta convention story for you, but no. That's fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:26:38 That's so funny. I'm not changing the subject. That's funny what he just said. I'm going to circle back. Tony Robbins is one of those people in American culture where it's so cheesy now. But at the time, like literally no one had thought to like believe in themselves. You know what I mean? Like not in America anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I'm sure he stole it from somebody, but no one had like, you know, done when he's done. That dude is probably like, the first generation of copycats of that. Where the internet hadn't made that super corny yet. Because think about his pitch to a principle or whatever. I'm going to motivate these kids. Okay, how are you going to do it? I look like a horse.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Good to meet you. How are you going to motivate these kids? I'm going to show them my Jeep and my hot wife. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what he did. You get the right principle and they're like, fuck, I wish somebody had told me about jeeps and hot wives. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I mean, that is more attainable for sure than, like, you could make it to the NFL if you don't do crack. You know what I mean? And also, if the principal doesn't have a hot wife or a Jeep, I could see him being fooled. Yeah. Like, God damn, I really wish somebody would have intervened on me when I was 14. Fooled, hell, it sounds like that guy practices what he preaches. He sounds like he hits. Yeah, but, see, I know it does.
Starting point is 00:27:56 There's no way he hits his job is talking about. That's what I was saying. That's what I was about to say. That's the other part of it that behind the curtain is so funny to me is like, we're comics who do the road. So like, imagine being a motivational speaker on the road. Yeah. And instead of comedy clubs, you're going to Clay County High School, Jackson County High, Morgan County High School or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Like, imagine that version of the life that we live. Like, bro, it's got to be brutal. But not having a hook. Yeah, I would imagine. But I think he's delusional. Of course he's delusional. So that, I feel like sometimes you can be. Danny McBride character or something.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Sometimes you can be delusional. enough that sadness cannot approach your shores. You have a moat of delusion protecting you from the bullshit. It's a shame that choked up, you know, on the... It depends on which version of them there is, dude.
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Starting point is 00:30:47 That's L-E-C-R-I-C-E Bikes.com and tell them the well-red boys sent you. Holler at it. All right. And we're back. The beta convention was the first place. I was the coolest guy. Really? That ain't fucking true.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah. That ain't true. All right. You were the coolest dude at your high school. No, I was the most popular. That is not the same thing. Okay. You mean like the dude with a fucking I rock.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yes. At the jean jacket and shit. It was all us nerds. It was me and Brandon Lavinner. Yes. It was me and Brandon Lavinner. So like you were like, did this guy come to your beta convention? I'm like genuinely all I remember about the beta conventions is like fangering.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah. drinking. I thought they were a lot of fun. They were a blast. And especially for me, because I was the guy who was like, through, how are we going to get booze? And I was never that guy. I was the guy getting the dude to get the booze. They're like, I mean, Brandon Austin, they don't listen because they are cool.
Starting point is 00:31:48 They're going to be like, wait a minute. Right. It was at least a three-headed monster. And I'll grant you that. We broke a bed, drinking and fighting. Is it a club a nationwide thing? Do people know what we're talking about? Yeah. And then we taped it back together with brown duct tape. Like the bread, it It was like particle board. It just fell apart.
Starting point is 00:32:05 We put it back to get. We wrecked every hotel room we were ever in. Hell yeah, for sure. I bet we were at the same one. Did you do the one of the Opry? I have never heard of this thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Beta Club was for... Beda's. Well, that's what, Corey said. He only went to Alpha conventions. I never thought about the fact that it was called the Beta Club. Yeah. Because it was like four nerds. But it, but it's schools like ours.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Like Thompson was in it and fucking, like a lot of the hitness athletes and people and stuff were in beta club. I wouldn't have been the coolest one of your beta club. No. You had to, you had, it was A's and B's, right? You had to have a certain average. A certain average, which meant what that average equated to was you had to make all A's and B. Nothing below a B.
Starting point is 00:32:46 You had to be A and B student. If you were A and B students, if you were A and B student. I was wondering why I never heard of this shit. Me neither. The kids who made A's knew why. But yeah, it was for kids who made, yeah, A's and B students. you're in the beta club and every year they'd have a beta convention. Katie was a...
Starting point is 00:33:07 Katie got elected... You know how they'd have elections there every year for like the state level officers or whatever? Katie was like vice president at the state level and then ran for president and got beat by an Asian kid naturally. And it's wild because all that shit should have happened. We all should have been there when that happened, right? Me, you and her, I mean. Yeah. But I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I feel like you only get to go your junior, you. year. That's what that might explain it for me and you're not being there because your senior year, it's in the summer. You're gone. Because you're two years old. You graduated what year? Oh, fuck. Oh, two. I graduated no four. She graduated no three. So if you're right, then we went sequentially. I think we did. And I think it's because your senior year that summer, it's in, I think it's in the summer, right? I can't remember. I can't remember. I think senior year it's like, no, you don't go now. You're on your way to college. And sophomore year, it's like, well, we can't have 15-year-olds down here fingering each other.
Starting point is 00:34:02 That's an affront of God. So, junior year's the sweet spot. I remember another thing. No, it's for juniors and seniors because Cameron was there. I got... God damn, I wasn't the close guy. I also got humbled at the back convention once, because again, as I've said a million times, before I left high school in Salina, or at the time, when I left high school
Starting point is 00:34:19 and salina, I literally thought I was goodwill hunting. Like, I thought I was prodigious, like incandescently brilliant, right? I was going to say real quick, it's a caveat. The only way I've ever been smarter than Trey in my heart, 100 percent. is that I was smart enough to know I wasn't that fucking smart. Right. Continue. Well, yeah, I did not.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And so I remember at the beta convention they had all these different, like, I don't remember. Asians, you already said it. Yes. And they won everything. Yeah. But they had different contests in competitions and stuff. And like our beta counselor, you know, the teacher that's in charge of the whole thing
Starting point is 00:34:52 was like, we need somebody to do the spell and be. Trey, when you do the spell and B? And I was like, yeah, fuck I'll do the spell. I don't give a fuck. And I remember going down there in the, you know, the first. first word, I remember. Got humble. I remember the first word was ostensibly.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And that's why you've tried to get it right ever since? No, but. That would be so fucking funny, dude. We had a pretentious origin story. Ostensibly ain't even in the same universe as this shit. That's my whole point. I go down there thinking I'm hot shit. Like, I can spell words.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Fuck. First word, triskeedecaphobia. Trisca decaphobia. Jesus. Triscadecaphobia, which is the fear of the number three. The fear of the number three. 13 is what that is. Triske Decafobia.
Starting point is 00:35:32 How close did you get? I don't remember. I didn't just get eliminated on round one. You had to answer all of them. You know what I mean? Like, you didn't just miss the first one. Stay up there, bitch. It wasn't like that.
Starting point is 00:35:45 It wasn't like the, you see on TV with the little Indian kids. It's like you, they. Dre was humiliated. You have to write them all down on a piece of paper like a spell and test. So everybody does it at the same time. So I had to do it was like 12. words and I don't think I spelled two of them right. That's a more fair way to do it, by the way.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yes, it is. You get 11 out of 12. Right. How mean you get right? I just said two or three. I got just destroyed, bro. Me and my friends did. I was like, I didn't know they had words like this.
Starting point is 00:36:18 They had a competition. I don't think it was PR. I bet you could spell all the ingredients on the back of a sunny day bottle. Phosphorus or phosphorus? No, no, no, because I famously didn't. realized that Sunny D had calories in it until the first time I ever read the back of the bottle, which was when I was 17 years old. The mixture of like hubris and intelligence you have.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah. There was some competition. We had to do something. And me, and I want to say Brandon and Austin did, dude, it was, and Brian. Brian was there. I definitely wasn't the coolest guy there. I need to let go of that. I think it was like, it wasn't PR.
Starting point is 00:36:57 They had stuff like that. Right. Like, buddy, we came in third. Yeah. We were blown. Like, we, some right had never taken a medal in anything. And it was like, how did you got to do that? So they had all these weird competitions that weren't just like math or science project.
Starting point is 00:37:16 It was a lot more job oriented. Right. You in a group and say, here's a scenario. Here's a scenario. If you were in charge of PR for this company in this scenario, what would you do? It was something like that. It was like we had to write a press release or some shit. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah. And we came to card. And we were as blown, you know, we were like, oh, hell yeah. Dude, stunk, hungover. Just like, we were bullshit. You know what I mean? It's like, these nerds don't know how to bullshit. The two that beat us did it by the book and everyone else fucking blew it trying to do it by the book.
Starting point is 00:37:49 In the hotel room, we had a big boy with it, real big boy with us. and big-ass country boy too but you know who made A's and B's he was there and he was in the host they split you up by like fours in a hotel room in a hotel room for in his four so me and three do me Thompson and two other guys who I do remember but I guess I'll leave them nameless but one of them was the big boy he fell asleep first
Starting point is 00:38:13 and we started putting like like balancing rich crackers on his open mouth while he was like snoring you know whatever yeah yeah and he started like and we were taping this and in his sleep he started like gently nibbling on it like he like flipped it into his mouth and was like barely eating it and stuff and we were taping this and he uh and then he like rolls over on his side like snuggles up and now it's sticking straight out like to the side like he's
Starting point is 00:38:41 holding it in his mouth and still chewing on it while asleep and then he finally like woke up and his look of confusion as he had this rich crackers sticking out of his mouth he knows like what the fuck you know and then like the then got real pissed I still remember it to this day was very funny the next day i got into a screaming match with him at opry mills because he was yelling at me that toby keith was the best god damn songwriter had ever lived and i need to recognize so many toby keith based arguments yeah i know yeah yeah it was uh so yeah see me and you were saying we was you you won a type of competition even though you didn't enter it with that tape i'd love to see that tape i'd give anything if i said that tape i guarantee it would
Starting point is 00:39:21 still crush. One of the, one of the fellers in it, unfortunately, no longer with us. Oh, damn. Yeah. So I think this thing in California was called the key club. Oh, I think that's right. Yeah. Stuff in the mail for that all the time. And I was like, fuck, I'm not joining a club for smart people. Yeah. My dad was both too cool for it. So maybe that's what ours was called. Yeah, I think we had to change the name from the key club in the South because that's what our swingers call themselves. Yeah, but isn't that? I was thinking that's what, because he said that. I was like, for the first time I ever in this conversation, I realized that beta is, not a desirable name for a club, especially nowadays. But then he said that was called the key club.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And I was like, wow, like that's that much better because that's, yeah. It's cooler. It is cooler. Yeah. It wasn't a key party. I know that, but it's still adjacent. Yeah. It's not as direct as Beta Club is, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah. And you got some sort of like gold cord you wore at your graduation. Yes. Yeah. That's right. It was absolutely a college thing, like a do this to help your college When you do your resume to get in the college, this needs to be on there. That's what they told me anyway.
Starting point is 00:40:26 That's how they sold me on it. Yeah, I was in a bunch of those things. I wonder how many of them were scams. Good points. You know what I mean? Like I was in that who's who. I was in the who's who. My parents paid for the thing.
Starting point is 00:40:38 There was like an honor society that had a Greek-sounding name that was for high school kids that I was in. But all I ever got was like something in the mail. It's like, hey, you're in this. And you had to. Dude, I went to Boy State. I know, I didn't do that. Which was legitimately propaganda. Oh, I got invited to that.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Dude, it was a nightmare. So the American Legion sponsors it, which is like the right-wing version of the VFW, if you can imagine that existing. And they get involved. I mean, they're very intricate in our government and our system. Basically, they have boys and girls state. I think girls states ran by a different group. But Boy State, they just treat you like you're in the Army and then make you learn about how the Tennessee State government works. You get up, you march.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Boo. But it was one of the wildest weeks of my life. It's where I met Kevin Teets and got to understand the deep, deep, disturbing brilliance of that man. We had our own elections. And Teets was rigging elections at 16 years old. At 16 years old, he was like, hey, our county's bigger than that county. If we all just do this, we can run shit, and then we'll change all the rules. Him and his other kid had it figured out.
Starting point is 00:41:44 The other kid stopped taking his meds when we got there. By day four, I'm not kidding. I saw the kid running full sprint and have his buddy hit the handicapped door button so it'd swing open and he would jump and dive into it as it swung and dive head first into the handicap door and we were all like, God damn, man, Aaron is wild as fuck. And we just didn't know about riddling and what happens when you come off of it back then. Yeah, that's pretty wild. We voted him governor. Yeah, I got invited to that. and when they said in the interview
Starting point is 00:42:19 they're like, have you ever thought about joining a ROTC? And I was like, what is that? And then they said, oh, it's ROTC? ROTC. Yeah, darned. Oh, I've never heard it announced in the way that rhymes with Nazi. I know, right? And I just started laughing at them. Once they explained it, and I was like, no, I'm going to go to film school.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I know. I hated everything about boys. I got, because I took court, one of the hit this things about Corey from his high school days that I've heard was when they gave the ass VAB, which was the armed services vocational aptitude battery, the test to see if you would hit it being in the military. He stood up and was like, this don't hit, I ain't doing this. They were like, well, we can't make you.
Starting point is 00:42:57 And he just left. Well, for the record, it's because they said that. And they go, by the way, we can't make you take this. And it seems like I was the only one that heard that. Yeah. The only time he was to the teacher his whole fucking high school career. And so, but I did take it and, of course, just smushed it, you know. And then they started like, sin and you.
Starting point is 00:43:17 shit. Not just send it. I got hounded by the military after that for like, through college. Like they didn't even stop in college. He's poor and smart. He's still poor. Yeah, exactly. Right. I had to go to tech. Look how he is. Yeah, right. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:43:34 but the ROTC thing saying, when I heard like how that all worked or whatever, I was like, why the fuck would anybody do that? Then years later, or not years later, when I was in college, the Navy tried to get me to join this thing. And, and they didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:43:50 That was like a bar of their whole pitch. They were the cool. They were like, we don't make you do none of that. It was like, you can just be in college and, you know, you got to keep your grades up. And we'll give you like $600 a month. Then when you graduate, you got to go to Navy Basic Training and then you're in the Navy and Naval Intelligence or whatever. Brian was in L.C.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I didn't do that either. I mean, he was also into finger painting while on cocaine. So like, you know. Yeah, but I just don't, they got to get up in the morning. and don't hit. He thought he was going to go into the military. And then they did help him pay for school. But he got out of that.
Starting point is 00:44:28 What the fuck was I going to say before ASVAB? What was we talking about? Just how the army don't hit. High school and boys state. Boys state. Boy state. I wanted to say this. So they couldn't do Republicans and Democrats because that would be like too much.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah. But they wanted to teach us about how. Patriots and queers. Queers over here. That would barely be more offensive in retrospect than what they did. It's not offensive, but if you think about it, it's so funny when you think about the state of Tennessee. Our parties were named after famous Tennessee politicians. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Who would that be? Al Gore. At the time. Yeah, Al Gore. Oh, my God. Anger and fucking old Hickory. It was Andrew Jackson and Andrew Johnson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:18 They both didn't hit. Yeah, but Andrew Jackson is like deified by a certain chunk of, whereas Andrew Johnson, no one thinks he hits. Right. Right. He's like maybe the worst president in the history of the United States. That's what I'm saying. It's like, we had to like, well, all right, one of you is going to be in the camp of the worst president in the history of the United States. And the other one murdered all the Indians.
Starting point is 00:45:41 True. But neither of them was like soft progressive. liberally or anything, though. No, that's my point. You know, that was, I thought you were going a different way. No, no, they weren't trying to. To choose the better one is also choosing the worst one somehow. Yeah, they weren't trying to write left.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It's just funny to me that they were like, all right, we got to do the political heroes of the state of Tennessee. And then that's who they were. I mean, they could have went with fucking James K. Polk over Andrew Johnson. He didn't do shit. I think Jackson and Johnson, you know what I mean? They're both Andrews. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I think it was that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Andrew Johnson, he really fucked. You know, it's wild because, like, he was Abraham Lincoln's vice president, but they hated each other and didn't hit for each other at all, because that's how it used to work, which is, like, insane in retrospect. Dude, it incentivizes the other.
Starting point is 00:46:28 They were in opposing parties, yeah. Yeah, to assassinate them. That's what it's how it incentivized, you know what I mean? Like, imagine if fucking Trump was Biden's vice president this whole time. Oh, he wouldn't have made it a week. Right. But that's how it used to work. And then, but like, Abraham Lincoln,
Starting point is 00:46:45 He wanted him to be the vice president because their philosophy at the time is like, this will unify people. Like that's how it'll work. But they fucking hated each other. And then when Lincoln died got shot, he like, what? Just fucked everything up like purposefully because he didn't want any of that shit to happen. Do you know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:47:08 In the follow up to the Civil War and everything, he like was openly obstructionist and corrupt and made everything so much worse than it needed to be. and it led to a lot of the horrors of the post-Civil War era South. Why are we doing a history lesson for? I wanted to... You want to talk about it? I enjoyed it. Well, Cho, didn't you want to talk about inner monologues?
Starting point is 00:47:29 Didn't you text me the other day to tell you to bring up inner monologues? Yes, I have no further research on it except for it to say that Amber... Yes, thank you for bringing it up. I have nothing. I like them. No, no, no. Some people don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 But just the, I think this will still spark something. Amber and me were sitting there the other day and she looks over at me and she goes, hey, and I was like, what? And she goes, do you have an inner monologue? And I was like, Amber, that's literally what depression in ADD is. Who the fuck are you asking right now? Like, yes, of course I do. I said, why are you asking?
Starting point is 00:48:08 She goes, did you know that like 40%, some new study came out, that 40% of people just don't have an inner monologue, like when they're sitting still, unless they are actively wanting to think about something, it's just a clean slate. And I was like, 40% is fucking wild to me. I think it goes beyond even that. I think. I have no idea what the percentage is. First of all, very quick anecdote. Same exact thing happened with me and Katie, but like three years ago. She came home from Run Arons or something and had somehow heard some stat about people not have an inner monologue and when she was telling me about it. She was like, so I heard this and I was standing in Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I was thinking to myself, I was like, do I have an inner monologue? Which is hilarious because I did what he just did. As soon as she said that, I started cracking up. And she's like, why are you laughing? I was like, you just, clearly you do. That's what that is, you know. But according to the way Corey phrased it, but everyone has that. No, what I was about to say, when I said it goes further than that, I have no idea what the
Starting point is 00:49:11 percentage is. read before that some people don't have like, I don't know what else to call it, an inner monologue, but I don't mean like unless they try to think about something, they're not hearing anything. I mean even when they're thinking about something, it does not take the form of an inner monologue. They don't have, that's not how they think. They can still think of stuff. They just conceptualize it differently.
Starting point is 00:49:31 They like just see shit happening or something. Like pictures? Or like, yeah, pictures or maybe words, like reading it or something, but it's not like. Is this related to people who see color of music plays? You hear like, not hear a voice in your head, but you have an inner monologue. Like there's, you know. I feel like Corey did when Amber asked him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Well, I'm saying people. Dude, I don't think people, they're a creative person. But people, people, some people don't. They don't, they don't, their brains don't work that way. And that's wild as hell to me. It's really hard. I can't even conceive of how that must work. That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I almost feel like this is just a semantics thing. Right. Sure. describing their reality in a way that these dipshit sociologists or psychologists or whoever it was couldn't, their inner monologue couldn't process. Do you know what? Like, maybe I'm an idiot, but like the picture thing I can maybe wrap my head around, like, all right, I think in words, you think in pictures. Yeah. But like the idea that you don't think in anything is paradoxical.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Right. It's quite literally unbelievable. Here's another one that I think is a, it does a similar thing to my brain when I hear it. You know, people that are born blind, again, not all of them, but a lot of people that are born blind, they don't see black. They see nothing. They don't see like you, when you close your eyes, oh, I'm blind now. They don't see like that. They see what your elbow sees.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Right. The brain isn't getting the signals so the brain's not registering anything. Yeah. It's not blackness. They don't see. I couldn't understand that until you said they see what your elbow sees. Exactly. Now, I totally get it immediately.
Starting point is 00:51:05 But imagine that. You can't. Yeah, like that's crazy. It, like, makes me feel a little ill. Yeah. Yeah. It makes me want to jump off something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:18 But, dude, like, I was telling Amber, like, you know, let's say hypothetically that... Yeah, but no, but I was like, hypothetically if that 40% thing is true, like, we'll just say that that's true. That's too bad, but go ahead. Agreed. I'm just saying hypothetically, if it is true, it's, I'm like, I don't see how any, any, stand-up comedian at least could fall in that 40%. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like our job, like, we would never come up with a fucking joke if we didn't
Starting point is 00:51:49 have an inner monologue. But another, they say that some people that are like speed readers and stuff, it's kind of a version of that, because I don't know about y'all, but when I read, it's like, I'm basically saying the words in your head. Yeah, pretty much. And people that, like, speed read and stuff, they don't, they see all the same words I do, but they don't say them in their head. They just read them without doing that.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And so they can just blaze through pages and stuff. And I think that maybe that might be kind of related to not having an inner monologue or something. Do you know what I'm saying? I wish I can do that. I do too. I've tried. I can't.
Starting point is 00:52:22 But now I'm back on the picture thing. I can imagine genius engineers not thinking in monologues, but thinking in concepts that are fully formed or pictures or whatever. Yeah. But it feels very either or to me. me. The idea that there's neither is just, it feels impossible. Yeah. I'm not saying there's neither. It may be either
Starting point is 00:52:44 or I don't know. It may be like, yeah, concepts or however you want to put it. I can sort of get that. It's hard for me to figure out how they form a sentence the way that I'm doing right now. Right. But I can sort of imagine in my head, like the idea of like, instead of your inner monologue
Starting point is 00:53:01 saying, oh man, I need to buy that flight. You just sort of imagine yourself buying a flight and then you do it do you know what I mean? If I could if I could take a pill that would simply turn off
Starting point is 00:53:15 my own voice in my head for hours at a time I would fucking OD on that shit. That would be amazing particularly the hours of you know 11 to 12 at night when you're trying to go to fucking sleep that's not man Andy's like that too are you guys both like that? Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:53:31 I just go to sleep well I'm not that bad about falling asleep but like whenever I'm having trouble falling asleep, it's because my brain will not fucking stop. I wake up. I mean, I told you all before. I have to anesthetize my morning. I told you all before.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I read some like techniques for dealing with that if you have that, which I found do work, like work for me is all like a dream. I'll interview myself about, in my inner monologue, I mean, about like the TV show I'm watching or something like that, stuff that doesn't matter, right? But it's kind of like when you name stuff when you're having a panic attack.
Starting point is 00:54:07 You're giving your brain, you're allowing your brain to keep rolling, but it's not all about how you didn't get enough done today. You don't head hard enough. You're going to fuck all this up. Instead, it's just about like a show you're watching. Inconsequential superficial superficial. A show you're watching a book you're reading or something like that. So it doesn't have the same effect. And then you just kind and then you can go to sleep easier that way.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And that shit does seem to work for me. I do that pretty much every night, actually. I'm kind of going back a little bit. I use the flight thing as an example because it's something I had to do this. morning. I think I just imagined myself buying the flight. Well, even with that, do you mean you see yourself in your head, like, picking up your phone and pushing by on a, you know what I mean? No, I thought of the Southwest app, but I feel like...
Starting point is 00:54:55 Chicken tonight. Go ahead. My inner monologue also was in conjunction with that saying Andy got a Southwest flight, and then I imagine the Southwest app. Uh-huh. Does that make sense? This is really, because I'm always been obsessed with the idea of like what if what I call orange you perceive as purple? Yeah, yeah. So this is like one of those things where it can drive you crazy thinking about how you just don't know what anyone else is experiencing as far as how reality is constructed. But like, there's got to be some mechanism through which you do process reality and then speak.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Well, I was thinking also about it being either or. I mean, I also picture things if I want to. If I'm like working on a script, I'm trying to think about a scene or something. Some people can't do that. I can picture it in my head in addition to hearing the dialogue and talking or whatever. But I guess... Think about an real apple, not a cartoon apple right now. Can you do it?
Starting point is 00:55:55 A lot of people can't. Yeah, I saw that same graph the other day. It was wild. That is wild. You're talking about, oh, orange, just purple and all this stuff. You should make me remember one time I got real high when I was like 19. And I thought I'd figured out. I'm such a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I thought I had this like, I got real high and convinced myself that like the language you hear me speaking right now is not actually English. This is the language that we both speak. So if like a person who did not speak English was in here, right, they wouldn't hear anything like what you hear me saying. And I got this idea because I read this girl that moved here from. China when she was like nine and she said when she first went into school an American classroom when she was nine years old English sounded like gargling water to her like just
Starting point is 00:56:48 complete gibberish nonsense and in my head I was like how is that possible you know what I mean and then like and then that got that made me start thinking that like I was like well shit Chinese kind of Mandarin kind of sounds like that to me or whatever and then I somehow my leap in logic from that was if you don't speak a language it sounds a certain way but if you're speaking with someone uh in the same language you both speak then it's like uh like translated into something you both understand or whatever that is how language works i don't think so yeah cipher we're just making noises but our brains know how to decipher i don't think i'm getting across what i'm trying to say yeah you sound either really smart or totally the dumbest person
Starting point is 00:57:31 well i said i was real high i don't know but i don't know which it is it's when you get real high I know. I know. It wasn't meant to be an accusation. I'm just like, I don't know what you're saying. Yeah. I don't know whose fault. If I ever told you all about my papal at the Mexican restaurant?
Starting point is 00:57:48 Probably. You're going to have to narrow that. Yeah, right. This happened almost every time, and he genuinely could not understand it. We'd go to a Mexican restaurant, and the waitress would come up. She'd speak English to us, but then she would be speaking Spanish to somebody else. And he would just, and by the way, it would. it was not in a hateful way,
Starting point is 00:58:09 it was in a genuinely curious way. She'd be, you know, no oblo, blah, blah, whatever. And he'd just look at her, and then he'd look at us and go, now how can she understand that? He couldn't process. So, I guess what I was saying, I don't guess either one of y'all seen the movie, The 13th Warrior with Antonio Banderas.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I have seen that movie based on a Michael Cretton movie. There's a scene in that where he learns the vicar, he's like a Middle Easterner who, who goes on to trade with like the Vikings and then ends up going on this adventure with Viking warriors. Isn't it loosely based on Beowulf? I don't remember if it's Beowulf, but it's definitely loosely based on some old Norse story or something. Anyway, there's a scene in that movie where he like learns their, at first, they're talking all this Viking gibberish. And then it shows this little montage of nights passing and him sitting by the fire and watching the mouth and what's a whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:03 It is super rad. and it slowly morphs from Viking gibberish into... English. To us, English. Yeah. But I'm saying I thought that when I was high, I was like, that's what happens for everybody. Like, everyone hears kind of the same thing in their head when they speak a language like fully fluently or whatever. Like, you go from not understanding it to like, then you're like conceptualizing it.
Starting point is 00:59:29 But if you're a native Chinese speaker, I don't know if that, if what they hear is what we. I hear Chinese as. I know I'm not making any sense. No, I did it. It's kind of like what my papal said, honestly. I think you're under something, though, because they say when you're trying to learn a language, that one milestone is when you dream in it. Right. And that is, I think, sort of related to what I'm understanding you saying, it's not instant like the movies showed it.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Right. But you do have to do what you're talking about. Yeah. Which is be able to fully think in full sentences. That's also sort of the basis of arrival. And the idea that learning that language allowed her to see into the future. Yeah. Because their language was written without present, past, or any tenses.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Right. It's like the idea that once you can conceptualize, which now we're all high and super heady. Yeah. But something we can hang on to that is tangible is that when you learn a language, they say a huge milestone is your first dream in it. Right. where you and everyone else is speaking Spanish as an example, that means your subconscious is now your brain is thinking in Spanish instead of translating English, Spanish into English,
Starting point is 01:00:45 which is what you think in. Right. Yes. That is a huge milestone. Right. Like when you're trying to learn something. Right. But do you still...
Starting point is 01:00:56 I guess it's that difference between translating Spanish into English and then just knowing. Knowing it. That whatever that, whatever happens in a person's brain, like at that transition point, that extra step. That's kind of the part I'm talking about, I guess. Well, and that also is there's some interesting stuff in like the linguistic world when it comes to like social issues and politics. The language that is native to you genuinely affects your culture. Right. Because it is how you think.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And that's kind of wild to think about. I mean, I mean, just a prime example. I don't know if this is true, but there's been some theories out there that, like, languages with gender, it's harder for those of people to accept non-binary people. Because, like, their language is gender.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Yeah, I'm sure. Like Latina and Latino. Right, it's built even more into their brain. What's kind of funny about that to me, since I'm not from one of those cultures, is it's like, are they also as hard up about, like, I don't know, I guess they would be. The idea, like, no, a table is feminine.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Right. You know what I mean? God damn it. Yeah. A table can't be masculine. Because that's... Next thing you know, they'll be saying the windows are girls. Right, right?
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah, but that's how... That's how it works, right? It's like La Mesa. La Mesa instead of L Mesa, because table is feminine. Mesa is feminine. Yeah, look at table. Look at table, pussy. At the curves on that table. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:20 But anyway, I actually, I think that's wildly interesting. That's one of my favorite parts of arrival is the idea that by learning the language, you gain this new ability. Yeah. I think that's cool. All right. And a sci-few. What other furniture you think is female?
Starting point is 01:02:34 I don't know, boo, but I had this chair that was gay one time. Yeah, I've had a gay chair. Yeah. My chair's all hit. I don't know. You're trying to say gay people. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:45 It was the joke. I was trying to be a pap-all about it. But I think we're there. That's a pap-ball. Oh, so go to trick-gras. When the queer steal your beer and it's mad in your ear, that's a pap-ball. I forgot all about that's a pap-ball. funny. We had the actual line. We had lines for that. And we also had man. I feel like a papal.
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