wellRED podcast - #389 - “Martha’s Vineyard Should Secede from the Union" Says Guest Alec Flynn

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

This week Trae and Drew are joined by the hilarious Alec Flynn to discuss rock climbing, being an Spaghetti/Potato person, and everything that America owes to the great city of Boston (among other such monkeyshines). Cho don’t hit. Enjoy Go to TraeCrowder.com to see Trae on the road DrewMorganComedy.com to see Drew BonusCorey.com for all of Corey's writings and audio stuff! Support our sponsor this week by going to FactorMeals.com/WellRED50 and using the promo code WellRED50

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Yep. Cho knows. He's much like Bowen that way, except Cho don't know. He often don't know. We sound like Eminem on lose yourself. Nosed over the cold water. Come back and holes is all on him. Yeah. That's how he always did it. Yeah, you know, he used to like, he'd write out lines in a notebook and like line up the syllables with each other and make as many of the syllables as possible rhyme with each, which is like kind of the secret to his whole thing. Well, maybe not his whole thing. He had a lot of things going on, but that's part of the. reason why he was so wild and rad, Mr. Eminem.

Part of his genius, yeah. He, and I, you know, I do think he's a type of genius for sure. He also, uh, he used to write an iambic pentameter just like for fun. Uh-huh. Just to see him good. Yeah, it's wild how he's like such a trash icon, but also like a brilliant artistic genius. Those types of people hit for me.

You run into him sometimes. Well, I think you have to be some type of genius to hit on his level, you know, or, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, for sure. If you're doing it yourself, I guess I can think of some people who have like an amazing voice and then a different type of genius to write it's all their music or something. But with them, you know, yeah. He was doing it all. But anyway, I don't, yeah, y'all, so Cho is not with us this week.

I don't, we don't know why he didn't offer up that information. He was being, I guess he decided to be cagey or just felt like we didn't need to know, which that's fine. He didn't think you need to know either as an audience, but, you know, you take that out on him. But yeah, I know he was sick this past weekend, but I also know I think he's retired. covered now and he just you know we said what time we were going to do this and we had a guest coming on he's like y'all got it i'm out all right well that'll be that'll be that'll be that'll be that but we do have a get we have a replacement for the show we have a lovely wonderful very funny guest it's a young comic named alec flyn who i had not met in person but i was aware of and uh

very funny awesome hilarious young broie man uh yeah we uh he's a good type of bro yeah he's a hilarious bro too. Alick and I met at the comedy store there was a little like competition Mike where if you win you can get to do a set in front of the Booker we like tied that night it was like

I felt like because it was comics who decided and I feel like the comic just didn't want to. It's like y'all both are great just both of you do it or whatever but I had also known of him from his don't tell set and we get into that a little bit but he's just a young

hilarious guy. He's got some shows coming up in the South that I'm sure he'll tell us about. And yeah, man, it's been a while, I think, since we've had on a comic. I think Zimmerman was the last one. Not D.K. Dan Van Kirk was. That's right. It was David Kirk. But with Zimmerman NDV, those are our buddies. And Alec is my buddy, but you've never met him. I think people are going to enjoy this conversation partially because it's like nice to have us catch up with old friends. but it's also nice to get a little,

Alex 27. You know what I mean? I got nothing in common with this guy other than comedy and like, hopefully we're both good dudes. And anyway, it's a fun time. It is a fun time.

It is a fun time. You just reminded me, I told him when he was on, I would do this and I forgot. Guys, don't forget, go and check out Rose Gold, Daniel Van Kirk Special on YouTube.

It is now out. He wanted to come on around the time it was coming out, but I'm an idiot, so I had him on like a month early, but it's now out. It's very funny, so go check it out, and he didn't deserve that, and that's my fault. But anyway, enjoy that.

And also enjoy this lovely and warm and funny conversation with the hilarious young comic, Alec Flynn. Here we go. Well, here we are. Welcome to the Well Red podcast. We are short a show today. Corey is otherwise busy. But we've got Trey and myself here, and we are joined by the illustrious, hilarious, this Alec Flynn, Big Al Flynn, what's up, buddy?

What's up, Legends? How are we? Yeah, stand-up comic, actor, girls field hockey coach at a comedy store. I did a show with Alec. It was half improv, and I made him take his shirt off, was not planning to do it. But the other side, they tried to say they were hotter than us. and I was in a full suit and am 39 and disgusting and you were in a thin shirt and are hot so I called their bluff and you go we cancel each other out

all right how are you man yeah I'm good dude I'm buzzing right now I'm like in the office area of my my rock climbing gym job um rock climbing gym job that's cool I still work part time in a rock climbing You're like, so you're like a, you're like a rad dude then. You're like, you're pretty, pretty tubular.

I mean, people have called me pretty, pretty out there, dude. I mean, I like me, city like this, love a good granola and some fayet. I get after it. Faye, that's a yogurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha, yeah. Well, it looks like, page. You wanted a record, an official record.

I wanted an official record, but, no, I mean, I don't even know why I still have this job. Like, I really don't know what I'm doing here. It's mostly just because it's fun Like I just get to sit at a front desk and then like discipline other people's children Okay, yes, I was gonna ask if you're like a you are an instructor or something in rock climbing or what do you like what are your duties there? My duties are mostly just I mean it's it's kind of like working at a hipster bowling alley like I spray down a lot of shoes Like I just I help people like I show people where to tape their fingers up like I don't know it's nothing too too crazy but I also have a I'll do instructional sometimes where I'll show people how to like use the ropes and get

them on the ropes do people roll in all the time like dudes just with like women that have also never rock climbing and I'm like hey dude you rock climb before and he goes yeah when I was a kid I'm like oh so no right like not at all yeah but it's like big dog you and I go dude you're gonna like end up splatting this girl you just met on hinge like what are you doing you're you're from Colorado. Is that right? I'm from Boston originally, but I lived in Denver for like five years. Lived in Denver. Okay. I knew. Okay. Because I was thinking, I was like, yeah, he's from Colorado. They just, they just all have to know how to climb rocks, you know, in Colorado or whatever. It just seemed to make sense. But did you pick that up in Colorado when you were living there?

Or were you somehow climbing rocks in Boston? No, for sure, not climbing rocks in Boston. People really don't have hobbies outside of drinking in dark places in Massachusetts. Yeah. Yeah. In Colorado, I just, I got fired for. from my job and then I was working out at a rock climbing gym and I was like and I thought this could be a good place to to work next thing you know I'm you know they gave me a quarters edie bower quarter zip and I'm out there just showing people how to crimp yeah yeah don't even know what that means outside of hair I know it's there's a hair thing you can do with yeah it's when you take your fingers kind of like planet of the ape style and just really like dig in there like that and uh

I mean, trust me, do we got kids that are just, they have the body type of a praying mantis. And they can just get up on those walls like you've never seen before. Yeah, I've seen some pretty wild, you know, YouTube videos and stuff of people doing climbing things. It's neat. But you're so Boston, what's like, is there something in the water? Like, do you think Boston people are just generally funnier naturally or naturally? Because Boston's got a massive legacy of comedy and comedians and also comedy, right? when you include like the Harvard part as far as in the comedy writing world coupled with all the comics and stuff and it's two very different types of people but both from that general area it's what do you think that's about being from there yeah man everybody's just really funny i think it's

there's a weird like dynamic with boston people where everybody knows each other like it's it's a big smitty that it's a big city that's not really even a big city it's like a large town So I think in terms of like, like shitting on each other, I think it's a constant like get it off me whenever you're around family or whenever you're around friends. So you have to be quick like that. Right. You got to be looking at like if someone shits on you. You're like, oh yeah, pal, you look like you just washed like fucking combed your hair with a butterfinger. Get out of my face. Like just random shit where you got to be ready to just attack at any moment because we're all very Catholic guilt laden.

and then we're also just very angry that we live there and that we don't really get to see the stun unless for three days out like three months out of the year yeah so I think that kind of has something to do with it but also I mean like I don't know the comedy scene when I was like kind of coming up I would say like I was just in college but really didn't even exist like it was just all the the really heavy hitters like the Lenny Clarks and like Tony V's all these big dudes that just never left right so and they were all doing all the shows. So, I mean, you know, it's tough for a young man to break into the Italian dining hall scene.

Right. Believe it or not. Even though I really want to shout out to the Boston Guido. I know he's a listener. I will do your show when I'm back in Boston. So, yeah, I've always heard that those old heads you were talking about that they've just been in and around the Boston area for, I mean, decades now, like since the 80s or whatever. And they, like, can work almost full time just around like Massachusetts. are just around that like area up there going like that's that's so wild to me it's wild and i mean

they don't really change up their act i mean it's mostly just i mean they'll kill for 45 minutes talking about the traffic to cape cod right you know kudos to them but it's i don't know then they get all like the tv spots for like you know bach toyota or something and they'll be like wow it's like dude this kind of's wicked fast or something dumb shit dude it's really like that's why when they did all those Boston sketches on SNL. I did not like it one bit. I kind of just despise when people, you know, use my culture. As I imagine you guys feel in the South, my culture is not a costume, okay?

Well, when they, when they were doing all those sketches, I tweeted something like, actually there was a Super Bowl ad that was basically the same thing. I don't know if you remember that. It was a Super Bowl ad with a bunch of celebrities from Boston, but it was the same principle. It was just very, look at these people being cartoonishly Boston-y and fucking with the accent and everything. And I tweeted something like, I appreciate it.

I appreciate Boston for, you know, sporadically taking some of the like, God, isn't it like funny and stupid sounding how they talk? Heat off of the South. And it's also like, you know, also the racism part. You know, it's like everybody thinks you. Yeah. Talk dumb and are racist. And that's the two things the South and Boston have in common. Although I was thinking you pointed out the Catholic thing, obviously in the South, it's not Catholicism for the most part.

But, you know, Jesus. Very. Yeah, right. Yeah. Did you grow up Catholic? No, dude. I didn't grow up Catholic at all. And I want to thank Tom Brady for that on this podcast personally.

Because I grew up, when I grew up, the Patriots just started getting good. And around like age four, your parents decide like, all right, are we going to be a church family or like, what are we doing? And my dad was like, yeah, pal, I see Jesus every Sunday. He wears number 12. Right. I'm lucky, you, buddy. Also, like 2001, 2002, I don't know if you remember the. movie Spotlight. I love that.

That movie's awesome. I just watched that like a couple months ago. So that kind of came out and that was a huge bombshell. I think a lot of young families were like, fuck that, like not dealing with that. You know, fun thing about Spotlight, you know the high school in the movie. That's across from

the newspaper. Yeah. I went to that high school. Oh, damn. Yeah, and then the movie came out while I was in high school. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. It always rules. You go with all your friends. dude i mean they had a big assembly and uh i just remember like our principal getting up there and like i do a joke about it but like this is essentially how like it went down he just was like i don't know why

everyone's mad at us yeah why is everyone can we just relax for a second here we got rid of those guys a while ago okay and he sent them to different schools so i don't know why everyone's pissed yeah what i mean this is probably a dumb ass question but having been from there and having gone to that school and everything like i mean I mean, outside of the story coming out, like, how much of a part of your actual life was all that? Like, did you know people? Did it come up? Were you, like, warned?

Wait, I'm sorry. For me and for everyone else listening, what's the movie about? Because I just realized it sounds like it's about something gnarly. And I was like, oh, dude, that's awesome. No, it's about rock climbing. Yeah. Cool. Yeah.

It's chill as well. Well, our movie is October Sky, which is about football and rockets. Yeah. So, like, it was chill. Oh shit, that's our town. It was actually, it was about priests and rock climbing. So if they would chase you up the wall. Yeah, that would try to rape you.

Father Pat, get off my pants. Yeah, the spotlight was the, is it the Boston Globe? Was that the Boston Globe had an investigative journalism unit. I guess they still do called Spotlight, the Spotlight Division or department or whatever. And in the early 2000s, they broke up in that whole thing about, you know, the Catholic Church. priests, priests, molesting and all that, and the movie is about that.

So you got out of church because of Tom Brady, and you got out of molesting because of the Boston Globe. You were born in such a lucky time period, especially, like, as, as cute as a button as you are. Like,

you really, really, really looked out on not getting fucked many ways by God and these people. Well, see, that's kind of what I'm asking, because that's somebody who just watched that movie. Like,

it's wild how, you know, part of the whole movie, is like it drops a few bombs on you about how insanely prevalent this shit is. And so I'm asking like having actually grown up there, whatever, did it seem that way? Or was it like, was everybody shocked by that? I know, I know you're not, but it kind of seems like you're going. So like, did you get touched?

Yeah. I'm asking, did you know people that got touched, you know, or like, I mean, yeah. No, I mean, I didn't. I didn't know any. I mean, you got to remember. It's kind of like the same thing when I talk to people like from Boston. Boston and like they have a really thick like Boston accent. You know, I mean, dude, I'm 27.

Like if you got a thick Boston accent and you're my age, it's like you just grew up like in, in, in the city or you like work at a union. Like you are real deal. Like I feel like I knew a lot of people that were like the real deal. But I mean, that, that spotlight thing kind of blew it up. So if there were anybody, it wasn't anybody my age, let's just say. Yeah. But like when it came out.

everyone was kind of like oh yeah that was bad like we had like teachers at our school being like yeah it was not good yeah well I mean good for them the spotlight people I mean then yeah good movie though made a difference

I did movie rules I was gonna ask you about the accent thing so I feel like it's also I mean I'm from a tiny town in Tennessee which is what I always chalk my accent up to but Drew also is and he doesn't really have one but like kids in like

Nashville or whatever definitely usually don't have accents and now I don't even know like at this point in time like I don't even know how thick the accents are in like my hometown because I never go back there but so you're saying like generationally it's pretty rare the but like so the Boston accent is kind of like dying out sort of um yeah dying out I just um you know I mean don't get me wrong I think the dialect or I should say is the nomenclature that we use like Bubbler. We say wicked all the time. I mean, I still say wicked like clicker like stuff.

There's like certain words that I think will always be around but I just, I think the dialect itself is sort of I mean, everything's kind of being homogenized I mean, and I hope I'm using that word correctly. I mean, in Boston especially. That's another difference. Your generation says

homo. It's a very different thing. Yeah, homogenized. Yeah. I mean, in Boston especially, we just nominated a um the first woman mayor and first Asian mayor um in aAPI month shout out what's up I've fucking I just kept saying AAPI one time the comedy show is past weekend nobody liked it um but yeah it's it's uh just the demographics are changing um the city itself I mean I just remember all my buddies right graduated college and they moved into apartments in southeast, South Boston, which was notorious for being like the most racist place

ever. Irish Catholic, uneducated, like hardcore, like whitey bulgers playing grounds. You know and I mean, it is, I mean, they've essentially, they've, they have, what's the word I'm looking for? They've gentrified. Yeah, they've gentrified out all the people, all like the, working class people. And so you kind of don't really get. any of the same culture. But at the same time, I argue, what was the culture of that place? Like, Perkissettes? Like, what are you about? I, uh, I went to the parade, uh, the Paddy's Day parade twice there. Yeah, my buddy Pete, shit show. I went to BC law. My buddy Pete at BC law was also a BC undergrad. And he had an apartment down there. He was like one of the first gentrifiers. And, um, he had

one roommate who was a dartball, but we would go and we would hang out, and I would just remember, like, seeing multiple fights, like, seeing a girl and a guy thought behind a dumpster. And I definitely remember distinctly sort of, like, the way my friends who were there with me from, you know, say, upstate New York or whatever, reacted to the whole thing and realizing, like, oh, I'm going to pretend like I, too, am appalled. Like, people fucking outdoors was a little crazy to me coming from the South, but the fights, it was like, you just like, well, we got to move. Well, it was, but for me, it was like, oh, we got to move, guys, these dudes are about to fight.

And they were just appalled. But I remember distinctly the first time I went down there with those friends being like, oh, I got to pretend like I don't get what's happening here either. I need to act like I'm not from white trash land But there was a part of me that was like I mean you even said it percocet That was like oh we're at the county fair right now Like hell yeah Yeah you get fired up

I know exactly I mean I know what you mean because I mean there weren't any fights or anything but like I Me and my wife just took our sons to the LA County Fair You just mentioned the county fair the Los Angeles County Fair and it's just while I was thinking the whole time I was there like hey We were you know white fans families are very much in the minority. It was mostly Hispanic families and also and you know some black families and then a few a smattering of whites of which we were you know one of the one of the cohorts. But it but I felt like it's like it's like it's like it's kind of comfortable. It's right. Because because it's like it's like county fairs or county fairs anywhere no matter what like like it's trash is trash. is what I'm trying to dance around saying. Like, I'm trash, and there's a lot of trash at a county fair, even in L.A., and it's a different color of trash or whatever,

but there's still, they have, it's still the same general vibe. And it just, you know, it's like I reckon, even though this is like a sort of an alien. And in T-shirts that, like, have cuss words on them. All right. So many, so many T-shirts. I got told, you know, fuck you or go fuck yourself by so many T-shirts, you know,

while standing in line for like a funnel keck or whatever. Yeah, that type of thing. shirts and skulls on them and an arrow pointing to the right and says the bitch is taken right yes yeah that type of shit yes did you feel like a need in front of your kids to pretend like I just didn't even pointed out and they didn't say anything either they didn't ask no they didn't I mean you know they're 12 and 11 if they were like just just old enough to read they probably would have said something but they're old enough to read it and be like oh that's fucking weird you know and not, like, they understand.

Right, but that's, to me, that makes me think they would ask, like, death. I think it's, like, awkward to them. There's like 10 people here with the same, if you could read this, the bitch is taken shirt. Like, what's happening? Yeah, no, I don't know. I mean, I also, at least one of them is pretty oblivious, generally. He's, like, lives in his own world sort of thing. He may not have even noticed.

You bought your kids, fried Oreos while you got screen printed booty shorts that said, Property of Trade. Yeah, yes, they had the, that visited the, uh, airbrush t-shirt booth which was, you know, big hit, big line in there. I just realized, too, they summer in trash. Like, the way some family summer in the Cape,

you send yours back to Trash, Tennessee to get there. Trust me, the cave can also be trash, man. I mean, dude, you know what the biggest indicator of trash, I realized? Like, I have my parents coming through like to visit L.A. And I asked people, I go, oh, you got any good, like,

restaurant wrecks? And, like, man, like, people I respect. I respected. You know, they just go, oh, you got to check this place out. They got a mariachi band and the burritos are huge. And I go, oh, no. Right. No, man, I meant like, you know, good food.

And he's like, okay, yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah. My problem with that is my dad would, first of all, he wouldn't come to visit me. The only time he ever came to visit me is when we had a kid in any city. I've lived in, and I've lived in many. But he would want the big burrito. Right.

Now, my parents get easily pissed, dude. So, like, especially, what was the other one? Someone said, they said, oh, well, then this Italian place, they make the pasta right in the wheel of cheese, and I go, fucking Christ, dude. Hold on, that's bad. Because I'm impressed by that. That's not a good thing.

Roll-off. Yeah. Roll-up. It's a gimmick because that would take me in instantly. Yeah, I'm sure it does. They do that a cracker barrel? I've literally made a tour promo video yesterday where I said, which is true, that growing up every year on my birthday,

we drove an hour each way to eat at a red lobster, which might as well have been the French laundry to me. Like that was like, you know. Well, yeah, you're a child. I know, but also a trash child. Yes, right. Yeah, but that's fine. You can be a trash child.

I know, but I still. I find when you grow, you still have an affinity for trash things. Not all of them. I've, you know, some have fallen by the wayside, but some trash things I think I'll always love or whatever. But like I like a genuinely nice, like a whatever, a hip or trendy or legitimately high level restaurant. But I also, I do like that because I'm a fact, I like food, but I also have a trash

palette. But I feel out of place a lot of times. I don't know. I like them. also feel weird banging them and stuff. I'm, I'm, you know, we, um, people fuck it up. Like the, the rest, the wreck has to be for lunch. Like, you can't wreck dinner because, like, you'll immediately catch the ire of whoever

you're giving the wreck to. It's got to be like, you got to hit this rib place for lunch. Like, it's got to be kind of outdoor picnic table, low key vibe. I think, I think whenever you wreck dinner, right, like, you really risk coming off as like, Because if you fuck up someone's last meal today, they really, they'll hold that against you for the rest of their life. But like you can, you know, and especially like lunch places where you can get like a smash burger or something that's easy for the entire crew. Do you know what I'm, are you picking up on a, Tray's looking at me? No, I'm not.

Well, no, I'm trying. Trey is one of the smartest people I know, but whatever this is, he lacks it. Well, but I see, I thought he was going in a like a different direction than smash burger. is what I'm saying. Like, because I smash burgers is like, you know, like you said,

it's pretty simple. It's a like simple. Yeah. I thought you would, if you're going to do trash, you got to do it for lunch. Yeah, exactly.

Like, okay. Besides, like people like eating trash for lunch. Okay. So like you can, you can give them a good local trash wreck. But like the minute you're telling me that,

you know, that you got to go to this Italian place. You know, they take the lemon genie and they spit it back into your mouth, you know, like that's, That's what I'm out. So what,

like, what were you looking for for your parents? Where'd you end up going? Was it a hit that it worked? Where'd you find out about it? I crushed every fucking restaurant wreck that they, that we had. I,

I, I, I don't want to, like, to, I don't want to, you know, put my finger in my own ass here, but I definitely,

what would you end up doing? Sure. I'm curious. So for lunch, we did Malibu seafood. Nice drive out to Malibu. Dad loves a good fish and chip. We got that.

I think for dinner, there was this place called Lay Great Outdoors, which was all on a grill pretty much. Like they grill everything up. It's not it's not a habachi. It's like, I imagine I'm just like, Benihana. Have you heard of it? Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You go out. Gilled stuff. It's like salmon, like easy, easy shit. Um, what was for dinner the other, the other night? Last night we did sushi.

Like, I think sushi is a good one that everybody can get behind. um my parents won't eat it they won't eat the concept offends them really oh yeah disgusting people raw fish what are you talking about dude it's delicious i agree yeah yeah no but he's right like yeah i mean yeah country ass people like my in-laws definitely wouldn't fuck with sushi i don't think or and not even just like my wife's parents i mean i'm probably i don't know maybe not probably also like my sisters-in-law and there are people our age but that live like back home or whatever I bet they probably don't fuck with sushi either but I might be misjudging them let me ask you guys something well this is the difference between country and city trash go ahead and

ask ask the question that's what that is is you're afraid of different things so our version of trash is terrified of like you know Japanese raw fish three words they didn't want to hear right go ahead Alec what was your question and our yeah my question is like you guys guys are from like the proper south, antebellum south, I would say. Yeah, kind of. I don't know. How do you guys feel about Texas? It's not the South.

It's its own thing, but it's the closest thing to us that, you know what I mean? Like it might as well be the South. Texas is its own culture. Yeah. So much of it overlaps with the South, though, that I think it's like, I, sometimes when I go to Texas and do shows, I kind of rib them for that. They're whole, like, no, we're not the South. that's their own thing. It's like, okay, but is it really that much different?

You know, also my, what's the word I'm looking for, protocol or whatever has always been like, you know, I mean, they were literally part of the Confederacy. So they don't get to just be like, no, we ain't that. They also like, you know, fucking cowboy shit country music. They talk dumb. They are racist, all that shit. It's all very, you know, it's pretty similar, in my opinion. Having said, just for the record, having said all that, I'd love going to Texas. I think it's fun.

But yeah, I don't know where they get off sometimes. My Yankee brain is like when I'm in the South, like the proper South, the Antebellum South. Like you guys, I'm thinking to myself, you know, hey, OG 13 colonies. You know what I'm saying? Like you've been from the beginning. Granted we had a little breakup. But like when I'm in Texas, I like generally feel a level of like. like disrespect towards their people just because I'm like you guys tried to start your own

fucking country like who do you think you are well we did we also did that too explicitly over slavery as an institution so you know I mean yeah something about them over there where they still are like we're going to do it again like I can't yeah you know there's like a California contingent of a of secessionist for like I totally other end of the political spectrum like very different rationale now but there's like there's the way that Texas has like there are people in Texas like fuck it we should just be our own thing there's also Californians who feel the same way but for very different reasons isn't that yeah i just i don't know man it is i get pissed off when people don't appreciate

you know what boston did for the right like we fucking gave this country it's freedom like and people don't really yeah look hey i'm not i've always said it i'm not in favor of secession either yeah yeah you generally generally generally have a negative cost that tea in the harbor for the rest of you. So you're welcome. Yeah. Well, we appreciate it. Yes, but we, I think you're like also when you were talking about, oh yeah, original 13 colonies, old south, whatever, there is also a like, like gone with, more gone with the windy type of old, like Charleston, Savannah and like cities like that that are real old

southy that like me and Drew's hometown, I think they're deep south, but not that. They're not that. Right. I mean like south. Like you were here. here you've been there since the 1700s yes yeah i think yes i think the difference or whatever the tray's getting at we're we are trays on the very edge of and i'm close to the edge of apalachia the bottom of appalachia and apalachia has its own distinct things and so there's a lot of overlap there is a lot of overlap i'm not trying to like get out of taking my talking to about what we did no one's getting to talking to here all right we're going to be talking with each other It's got dialogue, and I'm trying to make sure it stays open.

When I hear deep south. Welcome to NPR's the daily. I definitely think of plantations and gone with the wind. And we just didn't have, what did they have, money? We had, like, there's almost never been a time because Cole was our big thing, and it was owned by people who didn't live here. We didn't even have our own version of rich people, for the most part. Obviously, there were a few.

but like there wasn't a gentrified class. There wasn't a gentry here. There wasn't a class. They were always somewhere else. This place has always been, you know, sort of ruled by people who ain't from here kind of thing. And I think that's the big. So when I hear deep south,

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And it's like very interesting because they talked about like New England was all settled by people from like East Anglia. And if you go back to like that certain part of England, they still drop their ours the same way that people in like New England and Boston do. Yeah, the hard ours. Very much so. Get them out here. Dude. They're fucking crazy. They're just as racist as us, man.

Oh, yeah. Out of control. The guy who invented it, you don't say. Right. Yeah, believe it or not. But, yeah, all the people that settled in Appalachia were just like from the northwest, like the Sheffields, like Scottish. Scotland.

And that's where it all comes from. But it's like very, they might as well be from like different planets. Because like people talk differently even in like four miles away in England. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, it is. While I went to the UK for the first time, went to England first, and in England, people, you know, immediately recognize them from the south or whatever. I would ask, you know, where else you go? And I would say, mention I was going to Scotland and so many people said some version of like, I think you'll find a certain kinship with the Scots, you know, which of course like me, like Chip on the shoulder, I ever was like, why, why? Because they're fucking unruly dumbasses too. Is that why? You know, is that why? Trey Plunch is one of them. What'd you mean by that?

Yeah. I met that, mate. But also they were right. They were right for the record. We got up there. And I mean, like, the Scot, the Ulster Scots, Scott's Irish, that they basically became like hillbillies and so much of the South.

I mean, the Confederate flag is literally based on the Scottish flag. We took that and really up to that ante. But yeah, there's definitely a lot of connections there. Also, I didn't know this, I went over there,

but I found out that even geologically, this is actually part of the reason why, geologically speaking, back in the fucking Pangaea days, is when all the continents were roommates, you know, before they each went out to do their own thing. In that time, Scotland, the Scottish Highlands and the Appalachian Mountains were connected.

And geologically, they're all part of the same ancient range of mountains. No kidding. Split up and went over there. So those people that came from up there in the highlands and came over here, they ended up settling in Appalachia a lot of times because it was like familiar to them. And when I went there, when I first went to Scotland in the highlands and shit, I like fell asleep on the train and it woke up as we were in Scotland and it was so wild to me because it looked exactly like East Tennessee.

You sort of like topographically and everything. I was like I could be on a train in East Tennessee right now except for we don't believe in trains in America. But like this looks like home, you know. It was wild. Yeah. That is actually. That's crazy because you think like, imagine you just like you landed in this brand new land

and like something just deep in your plums is telling you, I got to go to the mountains. Right. Yeah. Yeah, and that is, that thing deep in your plums is, I know how to survive there. Yeah. It was like they knew how to make that land grow. They knew how to do the sheep and all that stuff, you know. I got a question for you, but a question for a Yankee Northeasterner.

All right. What's your, you know, what type of white person? What type of white person are you? What's your heritage? I'm Italian Irish, and that's the only real inbreeding they allow. Right. And do you, was it a big, is it a big thing in your family? Is that important to you? Do you care about that? There are a lot of like, you know, identity wrapped up in that, in that part of it for you. Uh, no. I mean, the Irish thing is like, it's cool. Like, I live with a bunch of dudes from Dublin. Yeah. Um, I here in L.A. So, like, I kind of feel like I getting back to my roots. But we've also just been watching a lot of IRA documentaries. So that might be part of it. Um, um, And let me tell you, they're all terrorists.

But the Italian thing is like, it's good because I think I lucked out because like my mom's side is like hardcore Italian. And I think I really got an appreciation for like good food and like how to cook. And as opposed to like if it was reversed, I think I would just get like my father's height and, you know, hairiness. And then like anger as opposed to like I just have now my father's anger. and then I have my mom's hair and then like you know I know how to cook I know how to like do all these great things I've got like the best of both worlds pretty much I think

but I don't really like dwell on it because I don't think it's I just think unless you really are second or first generation right it's it's that's that's when it's really deep in there and I don't think I yeah I don't know it just seems like especially to be from like the Northeast

where every dude in Boston and my age is the same height. We are, it's either O'Callaghan or Squidla Gini, and it's like, what are we doing here? Yeah, I, because that, I asked because I've always been kind of fascinated by that, like, because that's not really a thing in the South generally. I'm not saying you won't ever run into it, but for the most part, it's not a thing. We got a different kind of pride.

I was about to say, yeah, I've always thought it's because, like, Southern super seeds that, like, that's the heritage that we're all, like, super proud of and shit. Right. But because it's not a thing, I always thought it was a little weird. You know, like you just said, like every guy in Boston's similar. Like, you know, all these dudes in New York's like, yeah, we're Polish, we're Irish, we're Italian, or whatever. It's like you all seem like the same kind of meatball to me as someone who's not from New York. You know what I mean?

Like, and it's just also you talk to Europe or, you know, people from Ireland or England or whatever. And I feel like usually they also think that's weird. You know what I mean? Because they're like, you know, no, you're Americans, you know, like they don't. I've always thought it was kind of odd that that's like such a thing. I'm more fucking jacked up to be American from New England than anything else. Because I just think like the regional topography of New England,

we have the best beaches. We have like Maine. We have the, like it's the best like, I mean, Boston, I think about that where I'm like, I'm more proud about that heritage,

such as maybe you are from being from the south than I am. And I think there's just pockets. In Boston, there's this area called, the North End, which is, I think it has the most Italian restaurants per square mile than anywhere else in the country. And it's like, that's hardcore Italian. Like you still see people out front with like the, you know, the gold chains like smoking cigarettes arguing. And then like you still have Southie. I mean, where I grew up, I, they called it the Irish Riviera. Like everybody

is Irish. And there's still like that pride, I suppose. But, you know, I didn't grow up, you know, going get me like oh we're doing corn beef and cabbage this weekend i was like you know didn't really matter i think i'm more just stoked on on being from uh from new england yeah the last time i was in boston uh doing comedy i was just like walking around and ended up wandering into the north end and they i don't know what it was because i didn't know what was going on but they were doing some kind maybe this is just every day maybe it's just a festival it looked at st anthony it seemed they appeared to be doing some kind of super italian thing There was a shitload of people over there, all kinds of flags and very, right.

But yeah, something was going on. And I didn't know anything about it or even where I was. But as soon as I walked in, I was like, oh, this is the spaghetti neighborhood. They're doing lots of here right now. But yeah, but you know, it's cool. It rules, man. I do, like, the goal is to, like, really blow up with this comedy shit and then be able to, like, move home at, like, 45 and then just, like, quit and just do the dining halls. Like, I mean, teach history, coach hockey during the week and then, like, go on the weekend to like New York City or like Boston and just do like the comedy seller and like do spots.

But for the most part, I mean, like I love comedy, but I just feel like I want to go back home and then like that's where I'd want to like raise a family and like do that whole thing. But, you know, I just that's also like in my own fantasy by 60 through a series of shrewd play. political moves. I've created Martha's Vineyard as its own, like, we've broken away from the union and become like its own sort of thing, sort of like Sealand. I don't know if you've heard of that guy. Of course, yeah. Yeah. This is coming from a place of pure ignorance, but it just seems like what I know about Martha's Vineyard, y'all ain't winning a single goddamn fight, no matter how good of a general you are. But here's what I'll do. I'll take everybody hostage. Oh, okay. You're just taking Martha's Vineyard. That's

That's the geographical location. You have no affinity for the people there. No, it's more so just about being an island. And I like kind of just a stronghold. Yeah, earlier I thought you were super anti-secessionist, but now it's just like, no, you know, the rest of this country doesn't deserve the Boston area. It was pure jealousy.

Yes. His hatred for secessionist is pure jealousy. That's why he doesn't like Texas. He's like, God damn, they're down here really living. No, it's not jealousy. I just like, I look around that city and I'm just like, you got three water burgers on one street. Like, what the, like, you think you could run.

that awesome. Yeah, it's it's not what it thinks it is. No, gross. It's gross. It's pretty wild. It used to be good back before it thought it was whatever it is. You brought up coaching hockey. I wanted

to just tell this quick. I'm going to let you take over whatever the story is. The night I met this kid, we weren't supposed to be talking at all. And we were set beside each other at this. It's essentially an open mic contest at the store. And he just starts, I mean, again, I've met him three minutes ago.

We find out we have friends in common. And then he just starts telling me about his weekend where he's still coaching semi-pro hockey that he used to play. Is that? Yeah. And he's still going out on the weekends and doing it. And he had spent a weekend in some ski town. Jackson Hole. Oh, yeah.

Just getting ripped and play an adult league hockey. Like in a league. Oh, yeah. The Black Diamond Hockey League. tell me tell us about it because it kind of blew my mind that this is going so give me one sec you know that uh five minutes you're this is a higher level thing but you know that producer matt who skews he plays like beer league hockey still did you know that he does that and plays in like a old-timey banjo yeah i got five minutes i got to tell this story that i got to go to work okay and plug your day

yeah i'm about to tell the story then plug your thing and then yeah we'll let you know so essentially it's um we're called the Boston Bison. It's me and the rest of the boys. They just kept playing hockey. We've been doing beer leagues, blah, blah, blah. But it's all former Division I, not a lot of Division I, mostly former Division III and two hockey players. And we got all the lads together.

And we got jerseys, pants, the whole kit and caboodle. We went out to Jackson Hole, Wyoming to play the Jackson Hole Moose. They are pretty much a semi-professional team of people that live in Jackson Hole. And they play in the Black Diamond Hockey League, which goes against Vail, Breckenridge, Bozeman, Montana, all these other ski towns, Sun Valley, Idaho. And they're the best team. Like, they got a whole locker room set up. And they take any and all challengers.

So we got a team together. And we got it. They set us up in a fucking motel. They set us up like all the shit like paid for pretty much. And it was unbelievable. I'm coaching all my boys. I'm wearing the fuck. nicest black black fucking turtleneck dude i mean i'm on mushrooms i'm feeling

crazy it was insane i'm drawing up plays nobody's listening to yeah and we get on we get out there and don't you know we lost the first game five to three tough battle out there but i told them i said these boys they got nothing to lose okay what are they firefighters in the town they don't give a fuck about shit all right so they went out there the second game lost an overtime but that was still unbelievable. Both games, you're looking at 13,000 people in the stands. Both games. No, not 13,000. 1,300. That doesn't make sense. Thirteen hundred people in the stands, both games. And then after each game, we would go to a million-dollar cowboy bar, close that down, buy 230 racks from the bar, go back to the rink and then party with the Jackson Hole Moose in their locker room until three in the

morning. And just like the refs were in there too. We're all just like fucking losing our minds. It was one the most electric weekends of my life. That's like a broken lizard movie or something. I met him. Yeah. You were living like a pro player, but just in the ski towns. Yeah, it was incredible. I mean, we were.

I mean, everyone, we'd go in to like get breakfast and stuff. And people were like, big game tonight. I'm like, yeah, big game. Dude, that's awesome. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for being here, but tell, plug your ship since you got to go. Yeah.

Well, you guys rule. I, thanks for having me on. I, I got to go make sure people don't die on rock climbing walls. But you guys are the best, Drew, come back to, come back to LA. Yeah, I'm not going to, but thanks. I know, but all right. Trague, I'm great to meet you, dude. My shit, I'm going to be in Greenville, South Carolina on May 28th.

I'm going to be in Charlotte, North Carolina on May 29th. I might still be in Greensboro, North Carolina on May 30th. It depends on whether or not we sell any tickets. And if I just want to go to Atlanta. and then I'm going to be in Providence, Rhode Island in June, Stanford, Connecticut, New York City. And, yeah, hopefully Block Island, too. How do people find that and find you?

Yeah, check me out on Instagram. It's Big Al Flynn, all right? It's, yeah, with Instagram, I got a podcast coming out called Let's Grill. It's just going to be me and my friends grilling. It's going to be Grill ASMR if anybody wants to listen to that. Lovely. Yeah, got on. Well, hey, you guys rule.

Have fun at the Rock Store, buddy. Nice to meet you, Alex. Nice to meet you too. Alex. Later, lad. All righty. Well, that was fun. Total bro. Total bro.

I love a bro. I've always said. I feel like we argued some kind of argued recently about the merits of bros on a podcast. Also, when Corey wasn't there, I think, somehow. With the Daniel? No, it was before that. I think it was just me and you. We got to talk.

We got into the whole discussion about like butt rock, bro rock and like the two. thousands and the Broi era and whatever. Yeah. You know, none of that hit for you and it did hit for me. Well, I was also talking about coming from jock football culture. Yes. I think one of the reasons people are drawn to Alec is, and I've told him this, Alec is, he reminds me of people from New Zealand and Australia.

And I've said to you before that New Zealand and Australia, when you hang out with a lot of folks from there, you feel like you're at the best American frat party you've ever been to. Right. Where it's just as rowdy. It's just as, you know, raunch. but everyone feels cool and safe. And Alex has that vibe. I genuinely think that it could be hockey versus football,

but I genuinely think it's actually that I'm 10 years older than him. I really think that might be, I'm like this is hopeful, this is hopeful, Drew. I've got a kid now. I think that that decade of Brodom improved just enough to wear, you know what I'm saying? Like it's like a bit more self-aware. Right. So he was in, you're saying he was doing all that stuff 10 years after we were doing it. He was doing it like the 2010s and it wasn't as toxicly bro-y, is what you're saying?

Right. I'm saying that it seems like the kids aren't worried about getting hazed by broomsticks up the butthole anymore and they're not just totally disparaging every woman that they ever had sex with. Maybe I'm naive though. Yeah. No, I mean, I don't know. Well, that's that thing too. It's like I also, I remember we, I think, we might have talked about this last time, so I don't want to rehash old shit. But like, that whole, like the hazing, that level of stuff, like, all, it was not a thing in Cookville to Smalls College. It wasn't like, well, I remember when there was a Rolling Stone article that came out about Ivy League fraternity hazing or whatever. And it, it got passed around. We're all like, what the fuck? Like, they were like, they were like making pledges eat vomelets. They called them. Vomelots. Yeah. God. That word. Dude, I know. And so much, you know, and of course, you know,

the Sodomith mess and all kinds of crazy shit. But we, everybody in like Greek life at tech or whatever was like that. What? This shit is going on. It's fucking insane. Like it wasn't even remotely like that. There was like one dude.

Yeah, we should check that out. Yeah, I'd like to, I've always liked to think that had it been like that, I wouldn't have, I would have just fucking left after like the first week. I don't think I could have been made to eat a vomulet.

I don't think. that's just I literally couldn't do it at Marable Greek life was illegal or whatever it was like out of the band

but we had these secret societies that just operated like Prats and I got asked by all of them there was like four I think or three and I just was like

I've heard these stories and then my friends started joining them and they would like you know I remember one of the hazes was like they left they dropped them off in the woods

in the middle of winter and their boxers and it was like you got to find your way home and then they came back and got him in an hour or something but I was like that just that just sounded so stupid to me that they did they did do that to us if we weren't in our underwear

but and I'm not making this up the whole they sold it so poorly like they I could hear them all laughing having a good time and stuff and I'm not I'm not just saying this to make me sound however this is literally the truth as soon as they dropped us off and left or whatever

But my, like, pledged brothers and stuff, I was like, you guys know they're fucking coming back, right? I was like, I was like, they're not. They're like, I was like, this is a, they're doing a thing. This is about, like, they're not, they're not leaving us out here. And I, and we kind of just like stood around shooting the shit or whatever until they came back. And I'm like, you pussy scared or whatever, but like we never were. And there were, you know, things like, I don't know, I just always felt like I was pretty clued into, you know, what they were, you know, the bullshit aspect of it. or whatever, and I don't think I'm being revisionist either.

I was, it was kind of all just sort of a game or whatever. I believe you, I felt that way and thought it was stupid. Yeah. But then, you know, to be honest and fair, fast forward a few months, and they're like, oh, yeah, we had a party up in Gallenberg with the purples. That was one of the girl versions of it or whatever. And everyone got naked. It was kind of wild.

I was like, oh, man. Maybe I should have stood in the woods. Yeah. I mean, I've said before it's so wild to me to even think back on it now because I'm just such an utterly, completely different person. And it's weird because I'm, I stand up in front of groups of strangers and do that all the time and travel all over the place.

But, like, I just think of myself at that age of my early 20s and how, like, insanely social I was. Because, yeah, it was like that. We had all these part. Everybody knew each other, relatively small college. And it's like, you know, every bar I went to, knew everybody that worked there. They all knew me, knew all the regular.

everything and like loved it, loved that shit without drinking every night. Don't miss that. You know, can't keep that up. But like, it's not just that. Like the, the first part, the like social part of it or whatever genuinely to me at this age. And I've been this way for a while now. It's like, you know, it makes my blood curdle almost.

I'm just such like, I'm just such like homebody and introvert or whatever now that like, like I just can't believe I was ever like that. But I used to be a goddamn regular social butterfly. And I don't know. It's like, is that like, is that like? I say I'm an introvert now, but like, is it just, is depression just done that to me? Or was it like fatherhood?

Fatherhood makes you stay home more, and it does change the way you feel about staying home. So it could just be that, maybe. I think it's, well, what I'm about to say may it be fatherhood and it may be depression. I think it's hormones. I think when you're 20,

the things coursing through your body make you more social. Not everybody, obviously. But I think that for a lot of people, you are, dude, hormones are so wild, and I feel like we understand so little about them, like openly.

I think our leading experts are like, we barely scratched the surface on this stuff. But it's really wild how they dictate who and what you are. I mean, even with, if you want to get into, and I don't, not for an extended amount of time, because I'm ignorant about it,

But even if you want to get into like gender and expressions of gender, it's like wild how much hormones actually make us who we are. And I have learned that just watching Andy change and not change at the same time with motherhood. Also a few years ago, her hormones were not in a place that were supposed to be and she had to like get on some meds and stuff. And then you hear about men's testosterone getting lower and all the stuff that happens. I just think that in good ways and in bad, you have sort of the strongest, other than puberty, amount of that shit going on when you're 21. Right. You're horny.

Yeah. You're out there. You're out there, dog. You're out there trying to get laid, even if it's subcontact. Yeah. No, that makes sense. I mean, hell, I can totally buy that. But, yeah, it is wild to think.

And it's like, I've told this story a million times, I know, but it's like the whole, the thing, you know, Katie's uncle at our wedding and it was a shotgun wedding. She was pregnant, him saying the thing to me about like, you know, you're going to, you know, before long, you're going to be driving home. You're driving home and, you know, your buddy's going to call him. It's like, hey, we're having our poker night. It's poker night over here. You know, all the boys, you know, come out and you're like, no, I can't do it. I got to go home. And I was like, yeah, because that's what's, that's what is man's supposed to do.

You know, that's how response I guess. And he was like, no, that's what you're going to want to do, right? And at 25, the baby, Bishop, not being born yet, in my head, I was like, what? I was like, I'm not going to want to do that. You know, I was like, don't get me wrong. I'll do that because I understand that's what you're supposed to do. But like, I'm not going to want to do that. And then like, I just think about that all the time and think I always will because it ended up being like so insanely true.

And the fact that it is like a little pearl of wisdom that he shared or whatever, it indicates to me that it is something. And again, like you said, maybe it's the same thing. But like, you do challenge. change, or at least you should. Not everyone does, which has always been wild to me, but you do change when you have kids and that's part of it, I guess, the actual hormones change and that's how you change or whatever, but it just, it does change you and you don't want to be, you want to be at home where day at, you don't want to be out with all the hos and bros anymore or whatever, and that's just part of it. It's just I dove into that earlier in life or something. I don't know,

but it's still wild to me to think about me then, because it's just so, so different. And it might not be the only thing, and I don't think it would be fair for anyone to use it as an excuse. But if somebody told me on a biological level, if a guy had kids and then just didn't act right, like he just kept going out with the guys, and someone was like, yeah, his testosterone just didn't die down like everybody else's does, that's not an excuse, but I could buy it. I could be like, yeah, that happens. he still should have done the right thing, but yeah, happens. Yeah, I don't know.

It is weird. But yeah, everybody check Alec out, very funny young man. He's so funny. And for people who watched on YouTube, you might be thinking what everybody thinks, which is how is someone this good looking, this funny. I don't know the answer to that. He's got the freaking world laid out in front of him right now, in my opinion. We're not super close.

We were getting to know each other, and then I had to leave L.A. But I haven't said this kind of thing in a long time because I used to say it about friends in New York and then I just turns out I didn't know what I was talking about But that kid's going places go see Alec live If you're especially if you're in the south We know I know we got a lot of fans there he mentioned those dates I think he's got greenville He said Charlotte You say Greensboro? Yeah, I think so, but and yeah I said he might go to Atlanta and then yeah, but right But check out his website.

You, he will be around for a while. And he will also apparently be the first president of the nation of Martha's Vine. So that's exciting. Yeah. And if you want to check it out first, like I mentioned at the top of the interview, if you just go on YouTube and type in, Alec Flynn, don't tell,

I guess is what would work. You typed that in. He's got like a 10 or 15 minutes set on there that I wasn't kidding. I just randomly found before I even knew that Drew knew the kid. and I thought it was absolutely hilarious. So check that out. It's so good. Go see him.

But with that said, Drew, I do have a plan just so, you know, before I do this. But I said, thank you all for listening. Go to Trey Crowder.com and look at my dates. I'll be in, uh, shit. I'm in Oklahoma City this weekend. And then next weekend I'll be in Buffalo and Pittsburgh and then a bunch of places after that, including Virginia with Drew and then Florida and whatnot. So go to Trey Crowder.com and check it out.

You guys? Yeah, Drew Morgancomedy. com and check it out i will be in virginia with i'll be in radford virginia and then i'll be in virginia beach and richmond with tray i'll be in atlanta nashville and bristol all in the month of june i feel like i might have left one out but it's all at drew morgancombe dot com mrsville uh... atlanta i need you guys to show up and show out for me uh looking forward to seeing you guys out there all right and with that said we wish the show well i'm sure he's fine he probably to dentist or some shit and Lord only knows

but he'll be back next week we assume but with that thank you for listening well thank you all for listening to the well-read show we love to stick around longer but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do thank you God bless you good night and excuse fart