wellRED podcast - #390 - Kid Rock & Rudy Giuliani SAVE AMERICA!

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

Rudy Giuliani has a new coffee and if you dont drink it, you hate freedom! Drew points out that coffee has become possibly the most political drink in america! Also, Kid Rock aka Bob Ritchie was interviewed by Rolling Stone and turns out he's exactly as advertised.... which sucks, cause he used to really hit for us! Go to LectricEbikes.com and get you a lectric bike... tell em we sent ya! Go to TraeCrowder.com to see Trae on the road DrewMorganComedy.com to see Drew BonusCorey.com to support the Cho's work!

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That's not good. No. I'd say 85% of the mornings I wake up now, I have a stiff back. But like, no matter, for a while it was only when I slept in certain hotels and I just blamed it on their beds. But now it happens here on my bed, which always super hit for me. All I got to do is get up and move around a little bit and then it's totally fine the rest of the day. It doesn't bother me after that. But every morning when I wake up, there's a halo hanging from the corner of my girlfriend's for a post. It was bad.

Yeah, so that's been my situation for a long time too. Like every morning in my back just don't hit, especially if I like, me and Amber watch TV in the living room and sometimes I'll pass out on the couch and lulled. When I do that, you know. But like you said, I just get up and walk around and I'm fine.

But this, my back now is perpetually not hitting. Don't hit. Are we going? We just going to keep going. We might as well, you know, I guess we might as well. I did want to tell you just because I thought it would kind of hit for you, the reason my back is screwed up, every injury I've had this year, which this is the most physically injured I've ever been in my entire life, the year 2024. Okay.

The most also since I've had my kid, the most physically sick I've been. Like I've just been a wreck. Like Amber has been making fun of me talking about how I'm falling apart. And I told her, I was like, well, I said, I hear you. It does seem like that. but this is also just the first year that I've ever gone to the doctor. So it's like, I've been fucked up in the past.

I just never did nothing about it. And therefore, it was not reported. And I didn't have to go to the pharmacy because I just suffered through it, you know. But dude, so the wrestling injury was pretty comical. But this one, bro,

like I don't know. I know it's been a long time since you've had a toddler or an infant or whatever. But they got this new toy that's like all the rage. And they do love it. And it's basically just a square. piece of like cloth, but inside of the cloth, it's got this material that you crinkle it and it makes this noise and they love it. They love just holding it and doing this and just crinkling it. And it's just a square piece of like, it looks like a piece of a quilt, right?

It's one of Bain's favorite things in the world. Well, he plays with it everywhere, kitchen, whatever. Well, usually Amber has cleaned up all his toys in the kitchen before at night when it is my duty to wash all her bottles, get all her bottles ready for her to pump her titty's in the morning, right? Well, I guess, and I'm not blaming this on her, because, like, I also be cleaning them toys and shit, but she missed this thing in the kitchen,

this tiny little piece of cloth, and I'm sitting here holding two breast milk titty bottles, and I'm just, I mean, I'm scooting through the kitchen because I'm listening to music and shit, and bro, I slipped on it literally like a cart, like in a cartoon when they... Banana pill.

Yeah, like, whoop, do you like leg goes up in there? Did you throw the things you were holding? Like, did you let go of them? I somehow held on to them, but because I had things in my hand and I wasn't like, it's like the first time I've ever fell and didn't even like a little bit break my fall with something else. You know what I mean?

Like I consider myself not a great athlete, but I've always been athletic enough to where like if I slip, I can avoid it really fucking me up too bad because I can brace my fault. Dude, nothing. I just fell directly on. my lower back and and I have been like like right now I'm in some now I'm on pills um which I think which which which hits but this is the first time I've ever this is the first time I've ever really taken pain pills for the reason that you should take pain pills which means I'm convinced I'm

going to get addicted because that's how it happens um and you tell me I think it also does happen the other way not for me well right but you know it's more tragic and heartbreaking when it happens that way when it's just a regular person went to the doctor, got prescribed something. I met this guy once who was like an all-state basketball player, messed his ankle up in a game, went to the doctor three years later, he's sucking dick

for heroin or whatever instead of being in college. Like, that's brutal. Yeah. But also people just take them to hit and then end up sucking dick for heroin too. Like, it does, that does also happen. They do. But I'll tell you what part does hit for me. I was like, damn, I can't believe I'm

actually fin to take some pill. I didn't take pills in a long time. I was like, damn, I can't believe I'm about to take some pills. And like, immediately I was about to take them, you texted the group and you're like, hey, I need you all to bone up on this Kid Rock Rolling Stone article because I want to talk about it. And I was like, man, it's like it was meant to be for me to get my hands on these fucking oxycodones today. Yeah, that is a, that is some kismet right there. It's like you get an assignment. Yeah. Look at the kid rock. Right. You can take pills for the first time. I'm in the right head's face, baby.

For a test. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, I mean, since you brought it up. Well, hey,

before we do that, though, because I feel like that might take all the whole episode, I did want to share something that Drew probably saw,

but I doubt Trey did because he's not constantly on the internet like we are. I thought that we should promote our main man, Rudy Giuliani, because he now has gotten

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Play it through till he says that about even the black stuff. Even recommended black. It's so funny. I saw somebody on Twitter say, man, he really missed an opportunity, not calling it grounds zero. That is a good way. But I did think it was funny.

I was like, how is he not standing in front of the fucking Twin Towers? But anyways, guys, you know, here's the deal. yeah, probably not. Anyways, here's the deal, guys. You might not agree with Rudy Giuliani. I know I don't on everything, but he said it there in black and white. If you drink this coffee,

you are supporting truth and democracy. And God damn it, if we can't get behind truth and democracy, then who the fuck are we? You know what I mean? Sure. The culture of coffee, coffee's a place in the culture war as wild.

It's insane. It is. I'm, well, you, I got a great, report from Scott County that I'll tie into this in a moment. But you guys obviously know about Black Rifle. Yeah, I was going to say, I wonder what Black Rifle thinks about this, new on, you know, this is like a direct competitor there. I mean, I'm sure they're going to wipe the floor with Ruby Coffee. This is a perfect example, though, of like, we do a thing. I don't know I'm saying we. I don't feel, I feel divorced from this, although. How coffee used to be queer.

It is still. It still is. Yeah. Well, we do a thing bad. And then in my opinion, they do it worse. I'm walking through my kitchen right now. I'm going to see. But see, that's kind of the whole idea with Black Rifle Coffee, isn't it? Corey, it's like, hey, you want coffee, but you're not a clear? Yeah, right. Here's the exact same thing except for somehow.

But it's got guns on it. Yeah, right. But I used to think it was like because baristas in Portland made coffee. Right. Me too. Because I didn't drink a lot of coffee. And when I interacted with coffee, it would be. at a coffee shop with a queer.

Right, correct. But my dad didn't know those people existed other than stories. A cup of Joe, not gay. Right. So there was no reason to rail against that. What I'm realizing is it's not that. It's walking through the stores and seeing the word equal on a coffee bag. Let's take back our food system.

Now I want you guys to know, this is Coffee Andy got from a co-op. The bag isn't a brand of coffee. it's an exchange. It is a cooperative. You can get multiple types of coffee there, grind it yourself, and then put it in this bag. That's like the gayest coffee there is.

Well, I was going to say, I will acknowledge that while I believe in, like, cooperatives and small farms, which is what, like, this brand is pimping. This is like, look at the fist.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. This is super on the nose. I thought it was like black, like black rifle don't matter or something. Yeah, this is definitely, this is definitely Black Lives Coffee. and by that we mean the farmers were ripping off.

Anyway, I think that, like, this is fair play. It's just that they do it so on the nose. There's no art when they do it. Right. That's goofy. That's corny. What I just showed you guys is corny. But, like, Rudy seems like satire.

Yeah, it does. I saw somebody else. I think the tweet that I saw it from originally, actually, was like, this had the energy of a Tim and Eric sketch, and I watched it waiting for the shoe to drive. And I was like, I kind of did too because like it almost looked like he was in front of a green screen in the shot where he's just supposed to be in a regular house. You know what I mean? Right.

So it's like Rudy couldn't. He's like, I can't be in a normal house. Just put me in front of green screen and put a normal house behind me. Not being able to tell if they're serious or not is like one of their defining character. Well, that's the thing. I mean, you know, it's what we're always getting into with Mark in the text thread. Right. right like mark he's got this whole thing which like he's the smartest dude any of us know but he also like

comically stupid at certain things about but often sometimes it goes it's a pap ball yeah right he so for people listen what we mean is like he will get took by like he eats the onion a lot he eats the onion he eats the onion like it'll get took by like fake stories or satirical things making fun of like conservative shit and he thinks it really is a real conservative really saying this and it's not a joke whatever he believes it and i think it's just because he i sort of relate to it i guess because i've talked we've talked before about how like because i was a smart kid and so i and i'm very condescending or especially used to be really condescending and i know true still are but used to too yeah yeah uh because i just thought i thought everyone was so much i thought everyone was so much

dumber than me, right? I feel like that's happening. And most people are. I feel like that's happening with Mark anytime any kind of conservative stuff comes up. He's like, he just thinks there's so dumb that there's like. He gives him zero credit. There's nothing he won't believe that they would do like

sincerity or whatever, no matter how concerned it is. And there's been multiple. I wish I, can y'all think of any specific examples? Because it's happened. Yeah, the looter's guy. Well, yeah, that guy, that dude. He just recorded on a. podcast with Antonio Brown, by the way.

I wasn't going to bring it up, but you just said it. I can't fucking wait. See, that dude, Nick Adams, Alpha Male. Yeah. And his occupation, I guess. He's professional Alpha Male. But Nick Adams, Alpha Mail. Yeah.

Yeah, it's on his business card. But he, like, I feel like, I think that guy does, like, feel that way about that stuff and believe all that shit or whatever. But he's hitting. He's leaning into the bit. He's trowing up. Yes, but I do think he is that kind of person though of course I don't think it's like fake But that's but the question I thought was always wasn't if he was trolling and and and mark doesn't think he is mark right mark is

And he gets mad at us for thinking otherwise but he's convinced it's completely sincere no irony no irony or anything or Winking or tongue and cheekness to it at all. It's all completely sincere but yeah, but they I mean they've made it that people this is like this is an ongoing societal title concern, I feel like. You know, there's proposed law is what they call it on the internet, where it's like any Which is Raven. Any significantly, what is it? It's like any significantly

satirical take on a far, on an extremist position will be un, you know, undistinguishable to other people from the actual thing itself. Because to be fair to Mark, like, dude, the whole, who's that bitch with the dog she shot?

And then later in the same, Christy Noem. Chrisie Noam. There was a lot of stuff in that that even I thought I was like, wait a minute. This with the dog, she shot. It's mom. There were some stuff even in that that I was like, wait a minute. This though, I know that she really shot a dog and admitted to it. But this right here, it has to be a parody account.

That's not really her response. And I would look it up and it really was her saying it. So like to defend Mark, you know, a little bit, I get it in certain instances. But with the Nick Adams, like, it almost seems like just like so clear. Now, Trey, I think this is actually the better segue into what we want to talk about today because this whole like leaning into it and whether this person does believe this, but do they believe this to this point? And are they trolling us?

It was heavily featured in the Rolling Stone article about one Bob Ritchie. Let me do my Scott County report. That's also on this topic. Oh, yeah, my bad. No, it's fine. we need a sound for a Scott County report I lost my card but instead of that noise

it's like a foghorn leghorn leghorn noise yeah I'll work on I'll work on something and you give me your artistic you know input please but I trust you artistically and personally with this one cool um

all right we're going to start from the beginning it's going to take me about three minutes to get through this so bear with me everybody a few years ago some people moved here from Portland or outside of Portland. Farm of Maggers. They were like, they started a coffee shop.

And they roast their own, and it's like $5 a cup, and everybody was like, it's not going to work. And it was doing okay at first. And then they wrote this op-ed that the worst person in the world who runs the newspaper here just let them put it in the paper. Like, this is an op-ed. It was an ad. Right.

And it was an ad for who they are. Right. And it was literally like, just so you guys know, we moved here because we love God and football. Oh, God. And I mean, like, again, going back to what we were just talking about, pretty much literally, that's what it said. We're tired of all the liberals in Oregon. And we love it here because we love being in a place that loves the country and honors God. But we miss coffee.

We miss coffee shops. Basically, it was like, listen, I know they're the worst. but the one thing them queerers have figured out. And by the way, they're paraphrasing my father when me and Andy got him expensive coffee. Yeah, so far they're spitting. We blew my dad's mind when we got him expensive coffee. Yeah.

He still won't get it, but he like hints that he wants us to all. But he get, but he will admit like, okay, I get it. This is good shit. Yeah, because he's just like this strong or you double roast anyway. So they wrote this big op-ed. I mean, it's unbelievable. I wish I had it. Sorry, I got Burtz drinking Tobol Chico.

We got that at one more here now too. Anyway, wrote this big op-ed. It was basically like, that's why we came here to love God and country, and we wanted to bring coffee to this community. And then they took over, changed the game. Started to open up multiple locations. They now put their own beans in the stores here. It's like got its own special.

rack, you know, that they build out of freedom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. White and Blue medal and shit. They, of course, treat their employees like shit. Yeah, well, yeah. They love God and country. Yeah, so this girl here, Andy, what's her name? Andy, what's the coffee girl's name?

Leondra. Leondra. Leondra. Ain't that a Scott County ass name? Yeah. If it's a white girl, yeah. Yeah, right. It's a very Scott County name. Y'all think there's black people in Scott County?

Oh, bless your heart. No, I don't. That's why. Isn't this a lady who moved there? That's why the people from Oregon moved here. That was their first question. Okay. Yeah, right.

Yeah, you guys like black coffee, but hate black people? Right. Anyway, we're in. So, Leandro is working there. Okay. And as I recall, she was, like, thinking about, she wanted to do, like, a travel coffee trailer. And she had learned out of, you know, make coffee from them.

A food truck for coffee. She wanted to like go see the world or whatever. Did you know real quick that that's how it's pretty, I don't know about introduced, but that's how coffee got popularized and a lot of other. Actually, it was mostly donuts, but they had in World War II, America sent trucks over there to the front

that had coffee and donut, coffee and donut trucks. And that became a thing over there, especially in the UK, like donut shops and coffee and that sort of thing. Like that got introduced. Are you telling me America took coffee to Europe? I don't know.

The donuts part, I know they introduced donuts to Europe, but it also was paired with coffee. So I'm saying that pairing like a Dunkin' Donuts situation, that concept, a coffee shop with donuts or donut shop with coffee, whatever you want to call it. That that was introduced to Europe in World War II and the trucks. You're welcome. Coffee. How did that get over there? Did that come from the new world? Coffee.

Yeah. But coffee came from the East India Trade Company. They sort of picked it up along the way, brought it back to London and stuff like that. But, but, but I am right. But from the new world, like Americas, like is coffee indigenous to Americas or where to come from? No, no, no, no. There's being. Columbia.

That's the Americas, Tommy. Oh, I thought you said America. I thought you said America. The Americas, you know, the new world. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He is not indigenous to this hemisphere now. I don't know about then.

they grow it. Like, Africa has coffee now. I don't know. Yeah. All I know is... Coffee grown worldwide can trace its heritage back centuries to the Ethiopian plateau. There you go. So East India Trade Company goes down there. It's like, oh, blacks, don't hit. Stuff they're drinking does

hit. Brought it back. And then that's how, you know, we talked about on PLA. Lloyd's of London got started in that coffee shop because they were like, it's a bit stronger than tell you, isn't it? Ooh, look at that shit. Well, next time I fight a French person, I'm telling them we did it. So, um, so tomorrow.

He's like one to do the food truck thing or whatever. Gets the trailer, starts it up and like plants it here. And then I guess, I don't know if she decided not to travel or if what happened next, spurt it. These people go nuclear. They start like getting on Facebook. And without using the legal terms, they're like essentially trying to claim like, uh, what's, like, now I've forgotten the legal words. Um, not like copyright, but. You know, like, if you have an employee that works for you.

Yeah. And if you make them sign a covenant not to compete or something. Oh, yeah, non-compete clause. They're basically trying to argue, like, with the language that has, like, we taught her everything she knows and now she's backstabbing us and all these things. Right. And what these people fail to consider is that they're Yankees. Right. You want to talk about your all-time backfires.

Oh, I guarantee it. they nearly had to close their satellite location down and they gave her the most free average. The whole county was talking about the coffee wars. The whole county. You couldn't go to a Hardee's without somebody talking about how these bastards from Oregon came in here and were against, what do we love more than God in country? Freem market fucking capitalism. Oh, yeah.

Not to mention locals over Yankees every time. Every fucking time, it don't matter the situation. So then they had to write another op-ed about how they had all made up. None of which was true. Right. These people are, they're tiny black rifle. I mean, they built their whole brand. We came here because we hated coastal elites.

Aren't you guys? Don't you love us? And then someone else had the audacity to open up another coffee shop, and she used to work for them. So they were like, she ripped us off. all the set of stuff. And then, you know, to the people around here's credit, even though coffee's relatively new to them, they were like, so you're telling me that making a cup of coffee. That's you.

She stole that from y'all. Yeah. Yeah. So they basically... People who refused to drink $5 coffee. Gas station coffee exclusive papas were setting in line to get her coffee. Hell yeah. They reversed the culture war on themselves.

Because they ended up becoming the culture... the coastal elites that they claim to hate. That they are. That they are. It always fucking happens that way. They came here and bought like five buildings off the top, dog. Right. They were like,

they were like, yeah, that's the thing is it's not that they hated Portland. It's just that they couldn't afford to do what they wanted to do in Portland, but they could afford to do it in Scott County. It's also that they give a fuck about God or country. They came here, looked around,

saw a million billboards and bumper stickers, and was like, I know how we can sell some shit. Right. I mean, it's what we claim, we could do easily all the time. Yeah, we could.

They did that with coffee. Did you take a screenshot of a Facebook post and thread it about this subject? Okay. Yeah. I knew, I knew, I was like either he did that or I heard a similar small town story from like. There's a salina coffee. Salina, yes, where somebody tried to claim ownership of.

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If you're going to go that route, you mean, this happens on the left, too. This is one thing where there is a little bit of both sides of like, If you dabble in the culture war, it can turn on you. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, especially if you're an outsider from a place like Portland and, you know, in Skull County. Anyway, yeah, no. Or a suburb of Detroit.

Right. Yes, like one Bob Ritchie, Kid Rock. So for y'all that don't know what we're talking about, he gave an interview with Rolling Stone Magazine and got pretty wild, according to the journalist guy named Paisner. Was his name Paisner? Sure. Who went to interview him, said that he was hammered drunk.

He was drinking white wine. Then he switched to bourbon and coke. This is all in the afternoon. He's being hostile and aggressive. David Paisner. David Paisner. Being hostile and aggressive the whole time, Kid Rock is. At one point, pulls out a gun, waves it in his face,

screams the N-word repeatedly, and goes on a bunch of, like, hate-filled tirades. Now, I'm going to... Well, at least he's got a hypocrite. Right. But, well, yes. Reading the article, like, all of everything Trey just said is true and a very accurate takeaway of the article. But when you read the full article, I hate to say this, but like, there's a tiny bit of nuance to it a little bit. You know what I mean?

I think the nuance is worse. I agree. It's very obvious that he's miserable. No, I agree. I agree. But I'm just saying, like, it's weird in the sense. sense of like the by talking to him, the interviewer sort of points out that like, yes, Kid Rock is the type that we'll flash a gun around, we'll say the N word a bunch and we'll get

into argumentative politics. However, it kind of made it clear that he's like, I don't know where the line between Kid Rock and Bob Ritchie are if there is one anymore. And also how much of this is performative, how much Kid Rock is in on the bit and we're not whatever the fuck. But like, then you read with all these, you know, you read all these other Detroit rappers that Kid Rock was friends with. And a lot of them who are black, they're like, do I think that Kid Rock is an outright racist? No, I think he's a huge dickhead. They're like, and the kid rock that you're seeing today is not the kid rock that I grew up with,

is not the kid rock that I was doing stuff with in the 90s. and someone even made the point. And by the way, I'm not saying that this justifies Kid Rock and makes him a good person. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to go more on your point, Drew, of that he is lonely and miserable, because basically a lot of them were saying like, this is just him not being able to handle the fact that this is the only way he can get in the fucking news and that we're a decade removed from his last actual hit,

where he earned notoriety through his music. But that all makes it worse to me. Sure. That nuance to me is like, you weren't taught this, didn't come up feeling this. This isn't who you are. This is who you're pretending to be for some reason.

I do believe there's some part of them as a person that genuinely hates what he perceives as like a tightening of morality, around like what you say and do this was a dude who you know josie right strippers on stage like this was the dude who liked to like i think genuinely liked to like to like be wild or whatever yeah rock and roll right and now you can't fuck 17 year old girls and you know you like you can but you're going to get called out for it on the internet there's a lot of dudes that age dave sepale comes to mind in some ways where it's like, man, you guys really

hate the idea of anyone critiquing you so bad. Right. That you'll become worse. Right. To like prove a point about it. And that makes me think that your critics were completely correct about it. Right. That's my... That you are small.

And like, you're somehow worse almost than the racist you're pretending to be who follow you now, or the transphobes you're pretending to be who follow you now, because at least they believe it. Like, I don't know if I believe that, but there's a part of me that's like,

at least these people have a principle. Right. And I found it pathetic. I found it like, but here's the thing, what he's smart about and even said this, I think, this is only going to help him.

Because, of course, the highlights are only going to be the takeaway, which is that, see, Sonny's head to told you, fucking, liberal magazine comes in there, showing his gun, saying N-word, because he don't change for nobody.

Right. And at least he's on it. Yes. But the thing is about the performative thing, and then I'll stop. It is all performing. Like, that's all this is. It is genuinely easy to wave a gun around and say the N-word. The common people I've ever met who can't hold down a job or keep a woman, I've seen them do it.

but people will call him brave for that. It is literally the easiest thing the world to do if your kid rock to get drunk in the afternoon, wave of gun around and say the N-word. The idea of masculinity in this country is so far removed from reality and so fragile, and I don't know how we keep doing it. Like, I don't know what's happening where we can't. It kind of reminds me of the Travis Kelsey conversation we had a few weeks ago. Like, I don't know why we can't win that.

At the very least, why we can't get people to realize all these brash, loud, 50-year-olds are pitiful. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. And he did come off as pitiful, especially there towards the end of the article when, you know, the feller was basically like, when they were on the, they were on the Kid Rock finally, after making him watch 10 or 12 YouTube videos of him hitting, it agrees to drive him back to his car or whatever. And Kid Rock asked him, he's like, do you like? my house and the interviewer sort of points out he's like this is the first time i saw any vulnerability and like i have to admit i didn't want to hurt his feelings and that said to me that like after all

of that shit he still just like oh i like to argue with people because i'm fucking right and it's like no no no you want to be loved by 53% of america and you don't give a shit how it is because you are very sad and you need people to just be like look at that badass even though you're fucking 53 and you're not a badass anymore. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's been pointed out a million times about Kid Rock, but it's still no less true that he's like,

you know, his dad owns dealerships, bro, or whatever, right? Like literally, his dad was like a dealership magnate in the Detroit area. He like grew up in a, like a mansion with a tennis court in the back and that type of stuff in the Detroit suburbs. And so, you know,

rich, Yankee, rich privilege Yankee, you know, adopting the Confederate flag and the trash, you know, branding. But like, and that was always weird to me, even when I like Kid Rock, and even when he hit for me, knowing he was from Detroit, him having, you know, always a pet peeve of mine, as Choa says, you know, you're appropriating our racism. Right.

I never hit for me a Yankee Rocking the Confederate flag, even when I did like him. But like, you know, in recent years, it's like, I mean, he definitely, he don't seem to be not trash. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like in terms of he... With a certain point, when you've been paid for so long at a certain point,

you just kind of become that actual thing. But it still does annoy me, knowing that it's all like just bullshit from the beginning, however real it might be now. And then in reading that article and that whole thing, and him at the end, like Drew said, he's like, write the worst article you can, it's only going to help me out.

And knowing that he's probably... He's right about that, given his base or whatever. What makes it seem like it makes, I go back and forth on how calculated any or all of it is. Do you know what I mean? Like from him, because I don't want to give him too much credit.

It's like it's just as simple as him realizing, I've got a trash fan base. I should dive into being trash. It's also funny to me to think that like he really genuinely wishes. Like it's funny. You remember that line and only God knows why. Were you talking about like the working man or whatever? And he's like,

I wish I had that life. I bet you wish you had mine. Yeah. Like I bet. he genuinely wishes he could have like actual trash credentials or whatever. Yeah. Like what you know what? You know what? Like that's, you know, like whatever. I might be a huge queer and he's a, you know,

trash icon, but he'll never be a legit piece of fucking trail with trash like I am no matter what he does. Well, as bullshit is that line. Yeah, well, as bullshit is that line is to think about like, especially if you're someone with no money where it's like all this rich rock star talking about how, you know, if we switch lives, you would understand that I have it hard too. I think it coming from the context of like that was on the heels of his, like he just really found huge success, right?

And he's super young. And I do think there's at least a little what? I get, look. No, I get. That's what I was trying to say that I get it. You shouldn't probably put it in a song because no one, it's never going to come across. But I get the idea of like thinking like longing for the, the grass is always, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Simple life. God, this shit is so common. Everybody's so full of shit. I'm surrounded by sick of fans and yes people and everything. Yeah. And when you're, sometimes I wish I just had a regular job and a wife and kids and a house in the supper.

I bet he felt it. Yeah. It's also a good artistic mood because he's saying like, hey, your life has dignity, fans of mine. Right. So much so that.

That's all rules. I mean, you know, really, you all know the song, Love Yours by Jay Cole. It's kind of about that message. I've always said they were basically the same.

I mean, I mean, I'm saying, like, no one's going to, like, shit on Jay Coleslaw. No one's going to, like, shit on Jay Coles for it, I don't think. It's kind of the same idea. No, no, there's, dude, there's been so many artists that, like, and it usually comes on, like, their sophomore album, because you can't put it on your freshman album because you don't know it yet. But, like, there's been so many artists that on their sophomore album have lamented,

like, hey, just so you know, be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it, and it's not all glory, and it's not all whatever. And, like, but now with Kid Rock, if you're reading this article, it's so funny because like whether he knows it or not, he basically disproved cancel culture being the huge problem that he always purports it to be because like they were talking about how, you know, it took them a long time to set this interview up because he kept telling him no and shit like that. He's like, no, whatever, I don't need it. And then many times in that article, he just said like he goes, I don't mind saying this shit because fuck, what are they going to do to me?

What can you do to me? And then he would like sort of motion out to all his life. and all the shit that he had. And at one point that he was, I can't remember the exact line, but he basically was like, the whole time I thought, I don't need this role in some article, because look at it,

look at everything I have like, he basically was saying, I can't be touched, which is like the opposite of what they think is like, they're going to take away everything for me because I used to tour with a midget. Yeah, but what Chappelle did it the best,

Trump does it pretty well. What they did, though, was they, boys, we've been talking about this since our book. Yeah. If you go back to our book, there is this point we make in a few different places. The prime example I can think of is religious people in small towns who are the majority in their world, who have all the power in their state,

but have convinced themselves that they're an underdog minority because movies hate them or because the persecution complex. Yes. Dave Chappelle did it the best I've seen anyone doing

that I paid attention to. The point I'm making is you are right, Corey, but he can easily claim and they set this up from the beginning. They were like,

we will win. If you all join me, we will beat cancel culture. Right. And by the way, they now believe that they have. I mean,

I sent you guys that clip of that comic in tears calling Shane Gillis a hero because he said retard on S&L and like it blew my mind not that like the dude was happy about it but that like he was like emotional

he literally said Jane Gillis you're a great American they convinced their audience not only that cancel culture was real but that we have to beat it so they now are claiming victory over it they aren't very good at winning so they all have to figure that out

I am way less interested in kid rock specifically and way more interested in what this all it means and is like going on in our culture he is grasping for irrelevance but we are talking we are now at minute 38 we probably spent what the last 10 or 15 on him yeah because it represents I think the dark side of jet X I'm not super sure I haven't thought enough about it I agree with it's it's dealings with masculinity but like Kid Rock Can only stay relevant this way Yeah And he kind of admits it

Right And that's I find that pathetic And I don't understand Why his fans don't Like I don't understand And maybe I'm missing something Because I'm not one of them

I don't understand why people who like him Aren't like I'm more of a Morgan Wallet Like There are other people Who are doing it a new way I don't know why this hasn't faded. Trump, well, because, dude, in my opinion, it's how close him and Trump actually are.

Like, Trump talks about him a lot. Like, that's why, you know, like they like Trump. And if Trump signs off on this motherfucker, then like... Why did no one replace Trump as a politician, too? I've also, like, had a struggle with that one. Because he's the goat. You can't coach that, dog? He's born with it.

I wanted to say about the premeditated thing, Trey. I don't want to give him too much credit either. I don't think it was pre-planned as much as this is his. move. Right. He's done it before. Right. Well, yeah. And I mean, now, going back to what you were saying, like, I could be wrong on this, but

all these people, like, the dude crying over Shane Gillis and shit, when they say, like, cancel culture has been... I watch that video every two weeks, dude. It's funny as shit. It's the funniest fucking video I've ever seen. Please tell me if I'm wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but, like, I don't look at that as, like, y'all

beaten cancel culture. I look at that as y'all proving that it's never been a thing like you say it is. But that would invalidate what they've been mad about and their whole identity. I know. But like to me, it validates me and going like, see,

I told you, it wasn't shit. Like, it wasn't fucking shit. Like, all it is like, you know, because there's some,

there's some dudes who like, like Bill Burr, you know, like I can't say enough good things about him comedically and how he as a 50-something year old man. has handled all of this shit because, like, he's so fucking easily could go down the road of Chappelle, the road of Kid Rock. And maybe he true. And look, maybe Bill Burr actually does feel a lot of that inside of him, but he's like, I got to be fucking original. I can't do the same shit. But like,

Bill Burr has like constantly been on the forefront of like, just say whatever the fuck you want to say. Just say that shit. And if someone gets mad, fuck him. And like, he's been fine. Yeah, well, I don't, I mean, he is a 50-something-year-old white dude. I'm sure he's, he will openly be annoyed at like, barista-e type. Of course. Liberal, whatever. Like, he'll do that. But I'm saying, but I'm saying, I don't think he, I mean, you know, I mean, his wife,

would she flip Trump off at that US fight or whatever? Like, I don't think that he's like holding back for many. Right. Really. Like, I think that, I think pretty much with him, what you see is what you get. I feel like he's pretty much on front street. with all of it. So when he says, like, no, I'm with the college kids talking about the

guys of protest or whatever. I mean, I think that's what he means. And I think, like, he ain't playing no kind of game, I don't think. Right. I think he just, like, genuinely keeps it real. No, I do. I do too. That makes him hit for people on both sides, you know? Right. Some people on the right think he's like a champion

of there, you know, and I'm... Some think he's a champion of liberals now. Yeah, because... Go ahead. I was just that he even did make some complaints about like cancel culture where he was like you know it's making us tighter like he acknowledged that it was having an effect on comedy without without being like a huge fucking baby about it yeah you know what i mean well it is having an effect it's just here's not a pussy

he's not a pussy the thing about being back here that i'm observing is there are people here who are like very different than me in terms of their beliefs and blah blah blah and some of them are cool and some of them are huge fucking pussies. It's unbelievable. And then I think that that is what Kid Rock is connected with with this stuff. He's just a he's just a pussy, man. Dude, I feel that way all the time. And again, I'm willing to be wrong.

But like a lot of my friends, yes, I still have a lot of conservative friends like all of us do. Because like, you know, I don't know if it's just a southern thing. But like, I mean, don't you wrong. There have been some friends of mine that have done some things that were so way over. the line that I'm like, I don't really consider them a friend anymore. You know, I just can't be near that person. But I've got some people who are like very conservative, very like, you know, cancel culture, fuck this bullshit. And like so many times when we're talking, I'm like, how, how is it not coming across right now that you're being the pussy and I'm not? You know what I mean?

Like it's so the, to me it's so clearly the opposite. And like they'll talk about, they'll talk about it to me and I'm like, guys, you know that I'm actually the comedian that is dealing with it and I'm telling you that it's not that big of a deal. Why the fuck wouldn't you trust me? You don't know shit. Like, I'm the one. They're like, man, it must be really hard for you. And I keep going like, honestly, not much has changed. I've kind of said the same shit that I've always said. That might be because like I never wanted to make some like two Mexicans walk across the street joke. You know, I don't know. But like y'all, y'all are really getting mad on my behalf when I'm telling you that like it's not a big deal.

Just say whatever the fuck you want. And if you cross the line, just say, my bad, I won't do it again. Did you see that, like, Jerry Seinfeld made a complaint about something with sitcoms and not being able to get away and stuff? Yes. And that Mac from Always Sunny replied, like, Jerry did this hypothetical. How could you talk about this? And then Mac replied with a clip and was like, yeah, I don't know how about it was. Always Sunny where they did literally exactly that thing.

Yeah. And he did. And he also. Max's another one who keeps it fucking real. And he also, also Jerry said that. on like the day that Curb Your Enthusiasm had its finale. And now he made a point, which I guess I go, well, I guess I see what you're coming from. And a lot of people were saying they're like, yeah, but like, you got to understand Larry's show started in 2000 and South Perks started in whatever. And we do, and always sunny started a long time ago.

And they go, we do have these shows that are kind of grandfathered in. But, you know, if you're talking about like a new show that comes out doing it like that, I don't know that they exist. And I'm like, I mean, I don't know. You might be grasping. It's like people complaining about I love Lucy not being on TV anymore in the 90s. Dude, they are. And dude, but you know what the fuck?

The thing is like, I'm so glad you brought up I Love Lucy because people constantly talk about like all the things you can't do on television anymore. And like, I love Lucy. Lucille Ball, if she didn't have balls, then there would never, you would never see a couple sleeping in the same bed as each other. She's the first person that ever said pregnancy on fucking television. Like, those were the things.

that was not some great time in television where you could do whatever you wanted. It was quite the opposite. It was the total opposite. That's why this is such bullshit, man. Right. In the 90s and 2000s, a lot of these same people would complain about how nasty things have gotten. Dude. Bart Simpson is teaching our kids the wrong thing.

Everything is just too much. And we've got to get back to Christian and this and that. And then they started saying, well, we probably shouldn't say, make jokes about gay people. We probably shouldn't make the jokes about men and dresses. Like, we're automatically funny about that. And they were like, oh, well, you can't do nothing. Exactly. It's a great point.

They just want to be vowed. They're huge fucking pussy. Right. These same people. I went back to this. I went back to this when we did the Travis Kelsey episode. We were talking about similar things. I think that we are on this podcast with well red in the corner right now. And Trey Crowder

is what he is as an entity. Because of the fucking line, Quit being a pussy and say what you mean. Yeah. That was the part of that video that launched you where no one could argue with that. Right. Even they were, a matter of fact, that's kind of, that sentiment's what got them started on being against woke culture is a lot of these people were like, goddamn. I am going to start saying what I mean because they realized they were fucking afraid of bloggers.

Yeah. Because they realized that they were shaking in their boots because someone was typing on a computer because they're fucking pussies. And dude, Seinfeld, when you're talking about the show Seinfeld, which like, I'm not an expert on many things. But like, I would say, you know, at least the Battle of Chickamauga in the Civil War, 90s professional wrestling, and the show Seinfeld. These are things that I could teach a fucking course on. Seinfeld the show. Everybody goes, oh, it's so funny that Seinfeld worries about cancel culture when he's never fucking, you know, taking a stab at. anything controversial at all.

They did. The Palestinian. Right. They did like even in the 90s on Seinfeld when like, you know, they were, they would make gay jokes or whatever. But like whenever they wanted to touch on a controversial topic, they had to, and brilliantly by the way, because Larry David and all them, they were great writers, they had to tiptoe around it so much to get it on network television.

Like they had an entire episode about masturbation. Didn't say the word masturbation one time. You know what I mean? They had an entire episode about Elaine and her boyfriend and their abortion rights or whatever. They didn't really say the word abort. They danced around all of this so that like they could do the joke but not say the buzzwords. Whereas now if you make those same episodes, they would say jacking off and masturbation and abortion and killing a kid or whatever. So like even then when clearly you could do whatever you wanted, know the fuck he couldn't.

And like their writing staff was handcuffed to like, you can't say this. on television. So if you want to make the joke, you have to do this. So it's just disingenuous bullshit to think there was ever some time where it was okay to do anything. Drew alluded to this a minute ago when he was saying like, you're telling what they started saying, we started saying like when they started making fun of other types, basically what happened was for years and years and years, you know, Christian white people were in control of everything in this country. And if you say anything that offended them, that was a problem, you know, like we've been talking about forever. It's what Lenny Bruce put in jail.

It's what got, you know, Lucy into hot water for pregnancy shit or whatever. And communism. And yeah, all the stuff you're just talking about was from Christian white people. But then once we got to a point where other types of people had enough of a voice to say, like, hey,

I don't like that joke. Then they were like, fucking cancel culture. You can't say nothing anymore. But you're not the one that gets to say. They were the ones who were policing what you. could say for forever. And it reminds me this. I've told the story before many, many times, but I just think about it all the time because the more I think about the more I think it's like,

I kind of think it's like the thing. And I know it's very simple. But like the mild day job at the DOE, I had, there was this lady there who I liked a lot. She was super conservative, super Christian. I guarantee you she's majorly into Donald Trump at this point. I haven't talked to her in years, but I, but I love her. But I loved her. We used to argue with each other all the time, but in like a fun way. Like we, you know, we genuinely liked each other, but we would, you know, jawed each other all the time about politics and religion and whatever else. And one day, we're in this training class and that's where you learn to be a train. Yes. And it was like, you know, we were in contracts. So I don't even remember what the course was, the training course was, but I do remember the teacher at one point, gave a hypothetical scenario. she goes, let's say the city of Oak Ridge passed a new law to make smoking outside illegal, right?

What are some problems you could raise with a law like that? And I said, and I just blurt it out, I said, this is America, right? Like just hitting, like just trying to be, you know, just, I mean, I smoked at the time, so I did feel that way. I was just hitting. I said, because this is America. And the lady I'm talking about was sitting right in front of me.

And she, like, turned around and whispered over her shoulder. She goes, classic liberal. That's what she said, right? And it's like,

I was like, that's the most conservative shit you ever heard me saying. I was like, that was super conservative. That's all about personal freedom and responsibility and all that shit.

And fuck everybody else. And I realized it's like, but she did not, she don't smoke. She thinks smoking is gross. She goes to church and smoking is gross to her. So it's like,

anything that don't hit for them is just liberal, which is bad. And anything that does hit for them, it's conservative, which is good. And it doesn't matter that there's no logical consistency. That's why they fall bass acorns into hypocrisy and irony and fucking, you know, telling on themselves and all that shit all the time.

That's why it's because it really is just that simple for them, I think. If it hits for them, it's good, which is conservative and American. If it don't hit for them, it's bad, which is liberal and queer.

And that's it. Much like, much like OnlyFans is like, to me, should be the model for like, hey, this is someone making money and you should be able to sell your body because it's yours. Like if you're coming from the libertarian standpoint, it's like, you know, you should be able to do whatever it is the fuck that you want. It's your body, whatever. Like to me that it does feel like that should be like a conservative thing because

if you replaced your pussy with a gun, they would love it. but because it's your pussy and your butthole, they're totally against it. You know what I mean? I don't know my pussy with a gun. It would. I mean, yeah,

that sounds like something out of a Japanese cartoon, you know. Related with a pussy with a gun. Yeah, you guys are now touching on the deal the GOP made almost literally with... The Southern Baptist Convention. Yeah.

Yeah, with the Falwells and with all those dudes. The basically backdoor handshake in North Carolina with the grams and all of them. We will stop being freedom when it comes to a few sins if you'll join our team. Yeah. Yeah, dude. And the funny thing is, and I know you remember when that happened, Drew, because we were in church at that time.

No, we've talked about this. This was a big difference. My church wasn't political, but go ahead. No, my, listen, I remember when I was way younger, our pastor sang at one point, and this really stuck with me, even though I was really young, like, his whole thing was like, it's not my job to be political, you know. But I thought y'all did the Disney boycott.

Yeah, but that comes at the time of the Southern Convention. That's what I'm talking about, the flip, because I'm a couple years younger than you, you know. But I remember, like, when I was way younger, it was like, there was like, it was like the, I guess it would have been the Bush Clinton race, and the pastor was like, hey, my job is. not to be political. My job is to pray for whoever gets elected. He's like, this has nothing to do with

it. I preach the word of God. The word of God is not political. The word of God says this. I'm here for all people. Like I remember, and then there's this huge shift with the Disney thing. And like looking back on it, that shift all came when there was that backdoor deal with the GOP party. And it's like all the sudden churches got political. And the reason that we moved, we ended up move church. It's funny, we ended up moving churches basically because of that only to have my parents then basically be those become those people, which is crazy. But like the church that we went to after that, like I will, I will give them credit. Like they like I don't, dude, you know how I am. I'm like fuck the church, whatever. But like they, they didn't get into any of that culture war shit.

And I went and now I only went up until when I was in high school. I don't know what they're doing now. But I do know the pastor. I see him all the time in the park. He's actually a really good friend of mine. He's never once, when I see him in the park, been like, you should come back to church. Why ain't you at church? You're not doing the right thing by being at church.

Because to me, he's actually a really good dude. And like he kind of practices what he preaches. But like, to my knowledge now, he's not getting up there and saying anything like, oh, if Joe Biden has his way, we're going against the word of God and we're going to bring on revelations. But like, a lot of those small Southern Baptist churches immediately did that. And there was that clear distinction of like when the fall wells were, like, hey, we can get all this money from the GOP party and then we will sort of like guide all these people into becoming your voters.

Because like, let's not act like the South wasn't Democrat for a long time and then at least, you know, kind of 50-50 for a while. Oh, yeah. I mean, because of slavery and all that. Yeah. Then the Southern Strategy chat. But yes, there were, yeah. I mean, my whole, I mean, I'm like I come from a fan, my mom, my mom,

my dad and everybody were all like Southern Democrats. My path was Democrats. And like, you know, my pa was probably like the old school racist type of Democrat. But then like my dad and uncle weren't. They're like regular modern. No, my pat-Paul was a, my pap was a Democrat because of unions and workers' rights. That was 100% why he was a Democrat. And that's why I still think he would be a Democrat now.

I really did. Now, I can't know this. My dad switched. Of course, he retired. So he's not in the union anymore. Well, actually, I mean, my grandpa, while also being racist, yes, that's why he was a Democrat too. I've told the story before. I have a crystal clear memory for my childhood in my head of after

NAFTA passed and we got word that the factory was leaving Salina. I can see my grandpa walking into his office. I was sitting there eating nachos being fat or whatever. And he walks in holding a newspaper that presumably has some story about this on it. And he throws it on the counter and he goes, I'll never vote for another Democrat as long as I live. And like, you know, so that also happened. Salina was very,

Salina was a blue county for like most of the past 100 years and everything. Yes, right. And then the factory, NAFTA, the factory left, the Clinton's got blamed for that. And then Trump's whole rhetoric and all that. And now there's like four Democrats in Clay County and Uncle Tim's one of them. You know, I don't mean. You know, that's what my papal did. That's what my papal did.

But with being a Tennessee fan. Yeah, I've come. I get that. Yeah. Whenever they hired, what's his face? He said. Philip Homer. Homer.

Over, what's his face? After they fucked over Johnny Majors. After they fucked over Johnny Majors, he basically came in with the newspaper and said, never again. And he went and burnt all of his Tennessee shit and said, and was like, what's the opposite of Tennessee? Georgia, go fucking dogs. And that's why I'm a dog's fan out of pay. And he saved your family from English.

He did. We don't have time for this. Sure, we do. I do think it's interesting. What about our role in the culture war? Do you guys reflect on that at all? We don't hit hard enough. 2016 was such a wild time.

Do you guys think about that? Is there anything you'd do differently? No, there's definitely nothing I'd do differently. Now I'm like sick of it. I don't know, I don't even know what I would have done differently. But last time we were at Zanis at Christmas, this came up kind of. one thing I have lamented is I never understood because I didn't pay enough attention to it probably and I didn't listen to it but you know there was a thing that emerged around that time some huge podcasts and some hugely popular people it was called the dirt bag left and it became a big thing and like I've kind of often wondered how we missed that we didn't take advantage because you don't listen to me yeah I was talking about these motherfuckers I know I know but I think what you know it took them until other than that didn't listen to me yeah I was talking about these motherfuckers I know I know but I think what you know it took them until other than come town, which is only

sort of associated with it, and then like the real political nerd ones, it kind of took a lot of them until very recently to like, like they were a lot of, like, there's the people we know now like Stavros, who's like hitting and got a sweet special on Netflix,

and I don't think ever lost his integrity or his leftist principles, but also was hanging out with the people who were saying you know, racist stuff. But there's like, I'm up to eight, thinking of people who were in that mode right now who were like homeless dog so i don't think we missed a way okay i think i'll listen i i guess i just think of stobros and that what makes me think

that me and tray me and tray were were texting earlier about some poa stuff yeah when i if you well you you can i wasn't actually going to bring up the actual thing but if you want to you can and then i'll make my point now it doesn't matter way i mean i'll text her about it but either way we were basically lamenting all these like shots that we didn't shoot whenever it was 2016. And there's part of me that goes, yeah, man, like, I don't know. There's, there's some things in which we really didn't put our foot on the gas. And I'm like, but we didn't really realize you were supposed to or whatever. And there's part of me now that goes like, man, we sure did leave a lot of money on the table or like,

God, we were right there in this fucking whatever. But then there's also like a huge part of me that is like real glad me personally, because like this is the most we've talked about quote unquote the culture war on this podcast in a very long time. And I know that don't hit for our fans. Like I know that they would rather us probably do that every week. And I'm not saying we don't ever talk about it. But like knowing that if I had pushed a couple things harder, I would have to be doing it all the time. Or like, I don't know.

Like I'm glad to be known as like the cheese boy. You know what I mean? I might not have a million. Well, my main thing with it is like I genuinely, I'm not just. saying this and maybe it's, I'm just too stupid. But like, I, I don't look, there's nothing I can point to really. And because that was wrong. That's where I, I should have not done that.

I wish I'd have done this instead. As far as what we are talking, there's some other, there's some show business things. Like, I should have got into acting classes immediately or whatever. Yeah. But like the shit we are talking about, I don't have anything I can point to and be like, why did I do that? I fucked that up.

I'm, you know, I don't know if it's. I just felt more, well, first of all, let me say, like, I mean, I was going on Trillillies and all that stuff. Like, those are my people. And great people. Me and DJ do have a lot of, I think, sort of dirtbag left and dirtbag left associated fans with Gravy Baby and Carmen now. And I didn't do it for fans.

I did it because I felt more at home there. But I was thinking more like, for me, I don't regret any of it. But it is sort of, I guess it's just wild to think about how the way I'm sick of it now, I do wish I'd have maybe got out earlier or observed it for what it is. I wish I to realize what game I was playing. I was, and I think, I hope this is true of you. And honestly, I hope it's true of some people on the other side. I think I was playing from the heart. Yeah. And like, but this is the entertainment industry. Yeah. No. You know what I mean? Thank you. That's a great. That's a great point because there's so many times that like I go, I could do that, but I don't feel like doing

that, which means that I would straight up be just phoned it in or whatever. And like, I don't know. I've just, and I do think I've left a lot of money on the table, but I kind of just do whatever it is. And by the way, all my fans are still, I would say 99.999% leftist because I make it very clear

who the fuck I am. And I don't want, like, I don't, I would never be like, I try to play it in the middle ground because I want everybody's money. Like, I don't give a fuck about that shit at all. It just gets so inert. Like when I see Nick Fuentes put up a fucking something, and I'm like, so I'm supposed to say the opposite of that and be like him to be successful.

And I'm like, dude, fuck that shit. You saw him got caught jacking off to gay for him? Yeah, yeah, that hit. I mean, I do believe that it was a hacker, probably. But I think that hacker hits. Yeah. Well, hey, listen, I say we close it up and I need to tell the good people come to see me at Buffalo in Pittsburgh this weekend.

And me and Drew will be together in Virginia after the, that and then the lovely lovely boy Donnie Singstack will be with me in Florida. Hey! After that, and then a bunch of other places, all at Trey Crowder.com. Check it out. I am going to be with Trey. I'm also going to do Radford, Virginia, on the way to meet Trey. That was by myself.

Radford's kind of a small town, but if you're near there, come see me. I'm going to be in Bristol, Tennessee. I'm going to be in Atlanta. I'm going to be in Nashville. That's on a Wednesday, and I'm nervous about it. please make me unnerves by buying tickets on June 25th Corey Forster's going to be opening That's at Drew Morgan Comedy.

Where at Zanies? At Drew Morgan Comedy.com I mean, I will if you want me to. Yeah, you can come to Zanis. June 25th. June 25th, Corey Forster's opening for me at Zanis. Unless that's when we're in Disney, I mean, I'll fucking absolutely come. I think that's all my dates for June.

It's the child support tour. You guys know what bills I got to pay. You know what an adorable young man. man, I'm leaving behind it. Come hang out with y'all. So come hang out with me. Yeah, bonus cory.com for me, just put up a new essay on Cicadas. The audio essay just went up. There's, I do at least two long-form rants weekly. Of course, we've got Pastor Petey every single Sunday. And, of course, three clicks and a hic. I'm doing a lot of shit over there. Bonuscori.com. It's a lot of fun. You can sign up for free. You can do the $5 a month.

Thing, either way is fine. Obviously, you hit harder for me. give me money, but that's whatever. Also, we actually don't know when, I don't know when it's going to be, but if you hear this, keep your eyes on Paul Finebomb this week, because I think me and Trey are going on, on fucking Fine Bomb. Isn't that correct? Or did I dream that? I mean, that's how I understand it too, but it's not with Paul. It's with a guest host who's our boy. Yeah, but I'll be bald. I'm going to be Paul Finebom. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we'll to have the bald quota covered. Yeah, I think it's supposed to be tomorrow.

Cool. Wednesday. So if they're hearing this, it's today. Listen to the Paul Fine Bomb show. Me and Trey will be on there talking about our book and P.O.A. and shit like that with our buddy Braden. And also, if I may, thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go.

A tuning there, we can be. Thank you, God. Good night and skew. Skew whoop.