wellRED podcast - #391 - The Pope, Albinos, & Old Hollywood Writers!

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

Is the song California Dreaming creepy? Did y'all hear the Pope said a naughty thing? Are Albinos discriminated against? All this and more on this episode! TraeCrowder.com for tix to see Trae DrewMorg...anComedy.com for tix to see Drew BonusCorey.com for all CHO's musings 

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Starting point is 00:03:21 You know what I'm saying? Sorry, I just found that new noise. and it felt very morning radio. It's like 70s morning radio. Yeah. Like it sounds like it would be in the, like the nice guys, Russell Crow's in his car
Starting point is 00:03:34 and the beginning of the nice guys, that's like the, that's the guy that's on the radio or something. Yeah, I'm surprised. Has there been a Grand Theft Auto from that era? Uh, because I know Vice City was the 80s,
Starting point is 00:03:47 by city, which was the 80s in like Miami-ish, and it was rad. Hey, do you want me to blow your mind right now? Do you know if Vice City was to come out right now using the set? I hate these. I hate them too, but when you know one, you have to share it with someone so they can hate it too. If Vice City came out today using the same time gap, it would be about the year 2008. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:16 That's why I graduated college. Yeah, right? Right? The first time. Like I was, I was, I was like just starting to feature. And like, by city was such, like, when it came out, it was like, God damn, this was a long time ago. And I think about that shit all the time in terms of like, I know, I think that we talked
Starting point is 00:04:35 about this on Well Red or something, how like the classics, like classic rock, they've just established what the classics are and they're not changing the decade, you know? Yes. But like, like, when I was a kid and I was. listening to some of the aerosmith shit, like, it was only 10 years old, but
Starting point is 00:04:56 it was made, it was already being played on classic rock. Like 10 years later, and they're like, this is classic. And now I feel like we require something to be way older before it's a classic. Like, I start hearing people talk about like
Starting point is 00:05:12 the dark night as a classic movie. And I'm like... Also, 2008. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I want to be like, what the fuck y'all are crazy. But when I was like in my late teens, I guess I considered Tombstone a classic and it
Starting point is 00:05:28 came out in 90-fucking three. So it's the same thing, you know. Right. Speaking of old music and classics and back then and stuff, there was something I'd want to ask y'all. Drew ain't here, by the way. Drew dead. He said he'll be here in a minute. He picked the time, by the way.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We just, we started and he presumably will show up at some point. But I was going to ask y'all, but since it's just you here, I'll just ask you. The song California Dreaming. Yeah. Oh, here's Drew. Where?
Starting point is 00:05:57 So save your question. You're talking about by the Beach Boys? No, it's by the Mamas and the Puppas. Mamas and the Pappas, that's right. So the song, California Dreaming, where are y'all at on that song? I love that song. What does that do to you? Cinematic.
Starting point is 00:06:13 That song's very cinematic. Every time I hear that song, I don't just think, oh, this is a good song. I like almost have the whole encyclopedia of knowledge of the 60s and 70s that I have. Like, it all goes through my mind when I hear that song. I think about drugs. I think about murder. I think about the Manson murders. I think about corruption.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And I think it's just because it's been used in like so many movies to set up shit like that, you know? Okay. Drew, what do you think when you hear that song? I mean, I like that song a lot. That's an interesting take from Santa Giles. Have we addressed to that? No. Not yet, no.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Okay. Man, I want to respond to Corey. I guess my first answer to you, Ray, is I really like that song, and I just think about Brian Wilson. So, Brian, but that, Brian, he is that. He is the Beach Boys. Is that song not by the Beach Boys? No, it's by the Mamas and the Pappas.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah. See, I think me and Drew both thought it was by the way. Is there a different song also called? I'm talking about the... No, no. All the needs are all... No, it's definitely the Mamas and Pappas, dude. It's just...
Starting point is 00:07:29 It's just, they all came out of that valley, and they kind of had that sound. Pangea Canyon. Yeah. None of them, but... Laurel. It ain't at all creepy to either, you know? Yes, it's creepy.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yeah, ever since I was a kid, ever since I was a kid, the very first time I heard that song, I feel like I found it haunting and eerie and creepy. And it's not the, and like, did I not convey that by what I said? I said sad.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I would go haunting and, dreary, what'd you say? Eerie, haunting, airy, creepy, but it's, but lyrically and everything, it's not, it ain't anything like that.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's because they use minors. It never crept me out. I just wanted to say it for the record. I never felt creeped. I just was like, oh, this is really dark and sad. Yeah, but it's like, but, you know, the lyrics are about how California hits.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It's sort of the opposite. It's about like they're in a place that don't hit, wishing they were in a place that was hit, which is California. But, you know, it's sort of like the opposite of semi-charm kind of life. Right. Here's one.
Starting point is 00:08:43 The first time I did ketamine, I thought of that. song. Okay. So that's a reverse for you. It's like a dreamy. Maybe I was a little sad, which is why I was doing ketamine. Yeah. Yeah, I can't speak on the literal first time I heard that song because who the fuck knows when it was, I was probably insanely young. But like, what I was trying to get across is like every time I hear that song, I think of the horrible things in Hollywood. You know what I mean? Like, that's what I always think of. And maybe it's because that song, and I could be wrong, I'm not like a musical genius or anything, but maybe the reason
Starting point is 00:09:23 that even though the lyrics are one way it puts you in that place is that they're using a lot of minor notes and shit. It says apparently it was recorded in D minor but mastered at a slower speed so that the record is in C-flat minor. There's probably a bit of sonic weirdness that comes out of the slight slowing it down like the half-speed orchestra and strawberry fields forever, that type of thing. that's some Redditors take. Oh, I don't usually get all my sources from there.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I can't wait for that to be at the forefront of Google. Yeah. Already is, but it kind of is. I Googled. If you Googling, think of opinion, like I Googled, is California dreaming creepy? One of the top results is from the subreddit R music. Why is California dreaming such an eerie song?
Starting point is 00:10:12 And there's, you know, people responded to it. There's some people saying, I never found it, Erie. A lot of people do like, you know, the suspensions on the V chord and a minor key. It's a dramatic sound to begin with. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 The harmonizing of the voices, you know, the way to do that. On such a winter's day also, I mean, that puts you in the mind of like, as Drew said, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:33 the whole song, the lyrics may be beautiful, but it's like, it's someone talking about a thing that they aren't experiencing that they wish that they were. So it's melancholy, you know. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:10:44 All the leaves of brown, the sky's gray. Yeah, I mean, and ain't like that stuff hits, but, uh, I think it does. Like,
Starting point is 00:10:50 yeah, I mean, I guess it depends on your, you know, yeah, if you're depressed. I like when it, right.
Starting point is 00:10:54 No, I'm saying I like when it rains. I love the rain. Right. I never liked it really, until I walked through it with you, Cho, but now I do,
Starting point is 00:11:04 yeah. So yeah, let's talk about the, the fucking, the situation on Cho's face right now. If y'all are only listening, you're missing out, truly,
Starting point is 00:11:12 because he has bleached his beard. So. Well, I didn't do shit. What do you mean? You didn't like that just happened to you? Well, you said I bleached it. You said I bleached it. Like, I didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Okay. You made the decision to have it bleached, right? Well, that's clearly what that means. Yeah, well, I was just letting everybody know that I didn't get the dial. Yeah, well, you know, words. That was definitely important to the story. Words matter. So, no.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Okay. Yesterday we were at. I'll be right back. I apologize I'm having a child care issue. That's okay. We were at
Starting point is 00:11:48 was yesterday Memorial Day? Yeah, it was. We were at a Memorial Day party and my friend she was, she's a hair lady,
Starting point is 00:11:59 you know, and I feel like anytime there is a party in the South, if there is a hair lady there, some hair shit is going to get done.
Starting point is 00:12:09 You know what I mean? Like people always take advantage of that situation. They're like, oh shit, the hair lady's here, we're all here drinking, why don't we do our hair? So she was like highlighting everybody's hair and stuff, which really hit for me because
Starting point is 00:12:25 I don't know, well, yeah, I know exactly where you're at on trashy women, you know, they hit. But like when you take already kind of trashy women and you put a little bit of tinfoil in their hair and they've got a bathing suit on and they're all a little burnt, nothing is hotter to me. like nothing on or like like it was and I was drunk there was all these trashy women getting their hair done and then uh my friend she she had done this to me before because for a very raven reason I had an audition to play Hulk Hogan one time which it's like insane that I would ever like anyone would be like yeah maybe you who knows and I decided to go full out for it and she's like hey she's like let me let me fucking dye your beard and I would and dude
Starting point is 00:13:11 I'm sorry. Was this like a, you remember that Bob Dylan movie where in one of the stories he was played by a woman and then another story was played by a small black child? And then in another one he was played like some artsy thing where they were like, we're going to have a whole bunch of different types of hulks, like totally different than in any way what he actually is or looks like. We're going to do that. It's an artistic choice.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Go out, see if that, see if Corey wants to do it. Was it like that or just like regular Hulk? because if it was regular Hulk, that's wild. I mean, look, I auditioned for like a Pacific Islander bodyguard once, just because I got asked to do it for some idiotic reason. And I walked in there and it was just me and $15 store, Duane the Rock Johnson's. I was the only white guy and everyone looked at me like an idiot, which I was.
Starting point is 00:14:00 So, I mean, I hear you. But ironically, you just said Duane the Rock Johnson. It was actually for Young Rock. and here's the funny thing is that like as soon as I got the audition I was like well this is stupid
Starting point is 00:14:15 like no and I was te I just happened to be texting Conrad and I was like ha ha I just got asked to audition for Hulk Hogan in Young Rock and I said you know yeah right L-O-L and he goes have you watched the show
Starting point is 00:14:29 and I was like no and he goes go watch the show so I go and watch the show and I start see who they have casted to play some of these dudes and how fucking way off they were, like in size and in like everything. And I was like, oh, well, hell, honestly, who fucking knows? So I went full out and died my shit. So anyways, same girl was like, let me just dye your beard.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I'm drunk. You want to do it? And I was like, yeah, sure. And so she did this and she's going to hit it with the platinum later this week. So it's going to be like completely white, I guess, or whatever. So, you know, we're just having fun. If it did the completely white, I know that Hulk Hogan had like a. platinum foo man chew over a black beard yeah black beard but a platinum mustache went all the way
Starting point is 00:15:14 down and that was one thing but like if it's like white i mean you'll look a little sannie e want to hit for me you want to look like santa yeah i mean here's the thing is that i don't care what i look like you know what i mean like it because it'll go look like i could either shave it which i won't do or like it'll grow back you know and like amber was like or my mom my mom came over yesterday for a reason I'm damn sure not talking about but my mom came over and she was like Jesus Christ Corey what the fuck are you thinking and I was like how does how will this affect anything and she's like yeah I guess you're right and I was like right like I could die it fucking pink it doesn't matter you know what I mean so we're just having fun and when we were talking yesterday and y'all
Starting point is 00:15:58 mentioned the Santa it got me thinking of doing like a young Santa character or like Santa's son you know what I mean and maybe play them like kind of Don Jr. or something? I don't know. It could be fun, but like either way. Either way. You look younger than Santa, but you look older than you are because maybe it's
Starting point is 00:16:20 on screen. It looks super redneck. But it almost looks gray right now. Well, this is like when a redneck has like normal blonde hair, but they like are in the lake a lot. This is the color that they get.
Starting point is 00:16:36 You know what I mean? People who are in the lake a lot have that like dirt tan too. Yeah, I need to get a tan. It's what I need to do for this to really pop. Yeah, we do. And then I'll really be able to judge it. Well, you know he'll do that. For sure, I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah, he's done that before. That is either going to look great or totally insane. And I'm so here for both of those. And again, the thing about it is is like, cool, who cares? Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like, uh, I, Let me go ahead.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Let me own up to, I put some Auburn in mind. Nice. Because I'm filming a thing, and I wanted to make sure it worked and, like, I got used to it. First time I did it looked great. Couldn't really tell unless you knew me very well. And it was very natural. And I got, like, one of the nicer dyes, like, read about the reviews and all that, right? And it was one of those where it just, like, covered up some of the gray.
Starting point is 00:17:32 then the second time I did it I don't know what I did different but your boy just had like two it looked like I've been eating out a squid and it inked all over me and I had to like I mean I didn't have to but I did because it just felt weird you know what I mean it's just like two dark spots right here I just like washed it like 30 times that night and got it sort of just back to square one so I'm not I'm not knocking the notion that we all got our midlife crisis issue yeah but from here right now it looks gray which is in and of itself funny related to this whole topic
Starting point is 00:18:09 you just reminded me of something that happened this past weekend I was in Buffalo I landed at landed in Buffalo and I had boy were your arms tired indeed I was I landed in Buffalo and boy did I get blood on me I had a one of the venues was not like a you know I sometimes at certain venues that are not like comedy clubs
Starting point is 00:18:30 there's like a little black box you're not for sure what the situation's going to be in the green room right and i like to have me a couple bog cossodies or vicar cranberries for it and i was thinking about that so i was like i'm going to run by a liquor store because i won't take no chances get there and find out they don't have what i like because that does happen so i just google mapped my hotel from the airport and found the liquor store on the way it was near the airport and it was in like clearly the black part of Buffalo or one of the black parts of Buffalo. I realized when I got like I was the only white person around, this liquor store was like the whole thing was behind bar,
Starting point is 00:19:07 you know, like the register and everything and all the liquor was behind bars. You had to like order it from the guy and he had to go and get it back. There was a line of eight or nine people. This is like right after work let out. All black and me, literally no one said anything or seemed to care at all. If no one knew you, by the way, the lead up to this would sound real bad.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But the guy, I'm wondering, because then a weird thing happened, but it had nothing to do with the black people or the black neighborhood. The people running it were, you know. Indian. Yes. Yeah. Yes. We're Indian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And I stood in line, laid in my turn. I got up there. And I asked for a bottle of vodka. He went to get you, bring back. He looks at me and he goes, and I ain't going to do to accent or nothing. But he was like, how old are you, man? That I was like, what? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Let everybody have a chance to do it in their head. Yeah. And I was like, what? He goes, how old are you? And I was like, oh, I'm 38. And he was like, oh, wow. I thought maybe you were younger or something. And I was like, no, I got two kids in middle school, buddy.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And he was like, all right. And then he gave it to me and that was it. But he didn't make me show him my idea or nothing. And it's like, what do y'all think that was? Only a young, stupid person would come into this all black neighborhood. I could not help but wonder if it was something like that. And I just want to know if I was crazy or not. Because it's like other than that, it's just him being like, hey, you look nice, man.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Right. You know what I mean? Like this dude is just like, you know. Are you new around here? You're good. Yeah, right. You're young. Like he was a gay guy hitting on me, which I don't think it was.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Or it was something like, like what Corey just said, right? I mean, am I crazy? Is that no. A lot of states have a rule. I don't know if it's true in New York. A lot of states have a rule. You have to card anyone who looks younger. than 30.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And he might have looked at you and thought, 32, maybe, 29, maybe. You want me to say it? Hey, dude, there's like, let me see how he reacts to this question. Right. That's the only other explanation. Yeah. Look, I'll be the one that says it.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I'll fall on it, okay? If this guy is used to only black people, he's lost his ability to know how old anybody is. You know what I'm saying? He just, like, you just can't never tell. that's racist and a stereotype, but it's a positive point. He followed it up. He then followed it up with like, I thought you were younger.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I met, actually, I met another, the guy that opened for me last weekend, Pakistani guy, very funny. Shout out Motasham, Motasham Jakub, funny dude. That's a great. But he, uh, he also, he told me apropos of nothing that he thought I was like, when I mentioned I had kids that were that age, he was like, damn, however you were never? And then I told him and he was like, I thought you were like,
Starting point is 00:21:58 30 or something like that. That's weird. I think when you say the kids thing, like, I've been getting that lately is what I'm saying. I feel old and fat and gross. But I've been like randomly told recently by multiple look good. You got great hair. You got California sun's skin.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah. You wear black all the time. So you have less stress. I feel like those things that also, aren't you skinny now? Not. I'm on the way back up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:27 but there's a thing that happens when you're all the way back up, but you're not yet fat, where you're plumping through. When my mom gains weight, it looks like your mom looks 45. And when she gets skinny, everyone's like, oh,
Starting point is 00:22:39 my God, your mom aged. Right. Yeah. I mean, I just, dude, you look good. Like,
Starting point is 00:22:45 can you not just accept that? I think that you look. I think that you look good. I think you look good. And I do think, too, when you, like, like,
Starting point is 00:22:53 it should make sense to me, especially because I've known your, both of your, both of your, kids since they were born, but you still, it's wild to me when I hear you say, I've got two kids in middle school. You know what I mean? Like, because, like, most people, most people that I know that got two kids in middle school look older than you, look way shittier than you. And they are. all the kids stuff. I'm kidding. Yeah. No, dude, I think you look, I think you look good.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Let me tell you another thing. Can you be chemical peeling? Have I been taking pills? Peel, peeling. Oh, peel, chemical peeling. I haven't been doing either, but either would hit. What a Matrix glitch, that was. Make some chemical pills for sure. Yeah, yeah. Chemical peels like the weird thing about those.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Katie has done those. Are you talking about the ones that, like, go on your feet and then your feet skin comes off and shit? I honestly don't know what I'm talking about. I just was generally asking, is Katie doing a white lady thing to your skin? I know what they are. She doesn't do her own. If Tray had done like a real chemical pill, We see him too much not to have noticed because I feel like with those things for the first couple days after you look insane.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Because like your face looks red and it literally looks like you have like molted. Let me tell you. Let me tell you another thing. I did this weekend that I think we'll hit for y'all. Like the venue I'm talking about, which is actually in Pittsburgh, it's like a theater at a library. Right. So I didn't know what situation was going to be. And I get there.
Starting point is 00:24:26 and the dude, the little guy, he was like a 20-something-year-old. The library is, I think, owned by Carnegie Mellon University, so I don't know if this kid was a college student or what, he looked like 20-something. And he was, you know, very nice, but also kind of mousy or whatever
Starting point is 00:24:41 and, like, quiet. And he was, like, showing me around. Does mousy have, when you say mousy, because when I hear it said about a woman, I feel like it's always they have a rounded nose and ears that poke out a little bit. I don't mean he looks like a mouse. I just mean he was sort of like,
Starting point is 00:24:56 small and quiet and nebishy sort of or whatever. Yeah, okay. But again, very nice. I don't mean, it's just mostly, I mean, he was quiet and smaller. And he like, he like, showed me around. And then he was like, okay, one last thing. Where's the bathroom? He's like, yep, right there.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And I was like, okay, thanks, buddy. Appreciate it. And I turned around and I walked into my dressing room and I walked straight up to the refrigerator that was in there and opened it like this, right? Like in a moot, like I opened the door and I lean in and I'm looking at it. four different types of beer, four different types of IPAs. There's like a peach IPA, a pale, an extra pale IPA, and in two other, and they're all IPAs,
Starting point is 00:25:38 and y'all know, those don't hit for us, never have. We used to explicitly have it in the rider to not do that, but I think I, maybe that got lost along the way. But anyway, I look in there and I go, I see that they're all IPAs and I did something like, God, fuck, or something like that. And then I like lean back, when I lean back and close the door, he's standing right there beside it.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Literally like right there. Like I jumped and he was like, he was like, is there a problem? He was like because, you know, I didn't. I thought, you know, IPAs are popular. I thought and then I, of course, I did the whole thing. It was like, I don't know how I love them. It's fine. You know what?
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's also popular. I'm easy. It's fine. Not having options. You know what I mean? Right. It's real popular. No, there were options, Corey.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I would. All right. I would never be like, no, send somebody out to fix this. Of course not. I would never do. that, but I got, like, caught red-handed thinking something didn't hit clearly, and then I had to act like I didn't think that. And it just, I thought it was pretty raven. You know what, this is being off, especially because it's so you to not be like, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:39 to understand why you'd think that. Can I just get some wine? You know what pisses me off? I say, I brought some of my vodka in with me because of my aforementioned things. So I had that, I didn't really care. Sorry, I got slated that those were the same. That's my bad. we may have lamented this before, but on the note of IPA's popularity, what has really pissed me off is that beer companies have apparently been like, hey, IPAs are so popular. Let's turn our other beers into IPAs. Like, you get, like, you're like, right. That's true.
Starting point is 00:27:17 But like, there will be like a logger or a pills and you're like, oh, thank God, not the IPA. And it's like it tastes just like a fucking IPA. It's all hops. Also, American hops are stronger, but we don't adjust our recipes in conjunction. All right, here, this is a total side note, but what about a character named Albino? Yeah, that would hit.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Oh, for Corey? Yeah. Yeah. I just thought it would hit anyways. I don't know you're talking about me. Or like the rapper, you know, Brother Ali, Slim Jim Shady? I don't know, Brother Ali.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Of course. brother salami if he is brother ali albino yeah Fred worst uh yeah if but if he was albino like would the whole joke just be making fun of albano people because it's about time somebody gave it to them you know you don't really see you could make fun of special interest groups through the lens of like
Starting point is 00:28:18 pretending like albino people had a voice yeah Well, let's stay here for a minute. Like, no one wants to acknowledge, you know, my rights as a transparent American. Transparen't. Hey, let's stay here for a minute. So is it that, okay, so is it that people don't make fun of albino people, or they're just so few albino people that it rarely gets brought up because I've never heard any woke. Oh, like albino people, I assume get destroyed in seventh grade dog.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, okay, no, no, no, I know that. Everyone gets to short and fucking seventh grade. I'm just saying, like, as chronically online as I can be, I've never seen any, like, article on, like... I doubt there's much systemic oppression of albinoes other than obviously the fact that they're super sensitive to light. In this country, at least. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I have heard, I do know, look, just saying, just reporting the news here. Australia? No. In certain parts of Africa, albino kids are you know thrown off cliffs or fed to crocodiles or whatever because that feels like a thing somebody they think they're demons in like 1974
Starting point is 00:29:34 because I think they're demons yeah maybe I mean let's look it up just to be fair because I mean you're I've just read that before but you know acknowledging my racism in this thing I'm about to say I could see certain religions being like well this is the devil right This is literally the light. Let's see here. Yeah, an albino child.
Starting point is 00:29:58 It says albinos are especially persecuted in Shinanga and Mwanza, where witch doctors have promoted a belief in the potential magical and superstitious properties of albino's body parts. I nailed it. You did. Let's see here. Yeah. It's never fun to be right. Everyone acts like it is.
Starting point is 00:30:15 But if you're going to be right, you're saying something horrible. Every time I've been right. I thought you said it wasn't. I thought you said it probably wasn't. a thing. But then I said it was religious. And then I said, I could see it being a religious thing right after that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Right. Yeah. But I want to know the date. Like, they still be doing that? I mean, in 2015, the country of Tanzania enacted tougher laws against violence against albinos. Okay. But that's... And Malawi, Malawi has seen a steep upsurge.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I mean, I know what you're saying. They're passing... I'm sorry. I don't know. Yo, I'm so sorry. I got to take a shit. I'll be right back. Like, it just hit me like a ton of bricks, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Okay. It says, Malawi has... Like Christmas tree cakes. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny that he's doing a whole Christmas thing in May. And I ain't even June yet, but I guess he's just, you know... I'm saying that I hear you on the law,
Starting point is 00:31:24 but the law is being... change what my only point was like it feels like a thing of the past that we're acting like still going on i mean maybe it is but if they're enacting laws in 2004 hopefully 20 years later my albino brothers and sisters can live yeah so okay it says that persecution of people with albinism is based on the belief that certain body parts of albinistic people can transmit magical powers some such superstition is present, especially in some parts of the African Great Lakes region. It has been promulgated and exploited by which doctors and others. The African Great Lakes region.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And which doctors and others who use such body parts as ingredients and rituals, concoctions, and potions with the claim that their magic will bring prosperity to the user. So it's actually, I feel like it's even worse than what I remembered. Yeah, you think they're chopping them up? As a result, people with albinism have been persecuted, killed. and dismembered, also the graves of albinos dug up and desecrated. I don't like desecrating graves, but if you're comparing the two officers. It's better than the other thing, yeah, for sure. It says it mostly takes place in sub-Saharan African communities. But down here, though, numbers, says a report was released in 2014 by the Tanzania office
Starting point is 00:32:48 of a charity called Under the Same Sun, the report entitled, reported attacks of persons with albinism, and the document reviews 180 countries enlist 129 recent killings and 181 other attacks, all of which were within 23 African countries. So, you know, I mean, that's like 300, which don't hit, but, you know, it's not like. In one country? No, in 23 country, across 23 countries. 300 people. Okay, but how many albano's murder?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Way more than you'd think. Apparently, I saw that on here, too. Where did that go? in the country of Zambia there are about 25,000 people with albinism and that's just in one country and from a census conducted in
Starting point is 00:33:32 2010 so that's it's not a milkshake duck but that was definitely like a well hey do you think they get hate and then two seconds later they get dismembered for the way that they
Starting point is 00:33:46 look right but I mean I'm the one who even took it to there because I'm Corey meant like in America, right, or in schools and American shit. And, like, that's... He just meant, like, how hard are they taking it on the playground or whatever? And then I was like, you know, in Africa, they chopped their arms off and put them in
Starting point is 00:34:02 potions. I didn't mean how hard were they taking it on the playground. I was... What I thought literally was, like, I've never seen, like, any type of woke group, you know, like... The greatest mentioned one. What is it called? The same son? Under the same son.
Starting point is 00:34:19 They can't be under the same son. They need a different son. that is true. Hey, guys, while I was, while I was taking a shit, I was scrolling through the news. Have y'all heard about the Pope? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 He said, he said the Italian word for, he said in a private meeting, I'm quoting, by the way. Yes, quote it. There's too much faggateness in seminaries. Right, but he said that in Italian. Yeah, and the Italian words,
Starting point is 00:34:45 there's too much a faggotness in seminary. No, no, but the, yeah, the Italian word for faggotness is like what was it like Frot Gini or something something like that is that not in the thing how they say it in the soprano's a fool um a god
Starting point is 00:35:04 no is it not right in front of you because no I'm just reading the picture Mark fretted this earlier and the word was in the thing well I'm not looking at that we were setting him up for a bit and then he thought we were just feeding him more he was like goddamn I already killed it why are you making me do another one Frochia jeanie or, okay, F-R-R-O-C-I-G-N-E.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Okay. Frotia-J-J-N-E. That's what Andy drinks when she goes to coffee company. Yeah. It's also funny that, like, I'm just repeatedly saying, you know, the Italian wording. It's the Pope that said it. Which, by the way, like, this, it's insane because this is, like, the most woke Pope we've ever had in the history of the world. Yeah, well, he's the Pope.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah, right. But it's also like, I don't know. It could be a lost in translation sort of thing a little bit where it's like that is the closest. I'm sure he was just hitting. That is the closest translation into English. But in Italian, that word doesn't have the same type of impact or whatever as the word in English does in English. The article said the word was crass. It didn't say it was a slur.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Right. Right. And then it said, though, it translates as this slur. So maybe it is slow. Right. Maybe it's like saying there, I don't know, fruitiness or something. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Like it's in terms of hard-courness. To me, it sounds like, that's not our stance either, everyone, that it's okay for the public to be like, there's too much fruitiness among the priests. No, of course not. But it is funny.
Starting point is 00:36:38 It is almost like that's such the conservative that pretends they're okay with gay people type thing where it's like, oh, I don't mind they're being gay priest, but like, let's keep the gayness to a, you know, like tone it down a little bit. Like, don't be so out loud with it. They're under 12.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Exactly. Dude, this, I was on a podcast once in this guy who was like a lapsed Catholic was talking about how he was like, I'm a lapsed Catholic, but you know, I had these, I had these priests. I was a kid and they were great, you know, and he said what happened to them. There was two guys, two priests who ended up being gay together, two adult priests who were in love with each other. And when that came out, they got fucking excommunicated and barred and shipped off,
Starting point is 00:37:20 whatever. And when he said that, I was like, damn, they should have just fucked y'all. Right. He was like, what? I was like, well, you know, if they'd just fucked y'all instead, then they would have been fine, clearly. But since they were in love with each other as consenting adults, then they got shipped all the way to fuck out. No, it's like, I don't think he got it at first. And then he was like, oh, yeah, I guess you're right. That's pretty much what he said.
Starting point is 00:37:46 But yeah, I was trying to hit. And then no one laughed. To be fair, no one really laughed just now either when I said it. So I guess maybe it's not that fun. I knew where it was going. Yeah, right, me too. If you, yeah, you said it first. But, like, if you're a lapsed Catholic, how is that not, like, on your radar of this is, here comes this?
Starting point is 00:38:02 You know what I mean? I don't know. I mean, his whole point was like, ain't it fucked up that, that they did that to them? But I guess he hadn't thought about that, that side of it or that angle or whatever. Was he dumb? Sometimes people are dumb. I don't know. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I haven't seen the dude since. This was years ago. And he's with me right now. Right now. Yeah, behind the refrigerator. Oh, so. Corey, slide to your ride. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Now, slide to your left. There's like half a poster. Take it back now, Cho. What? There's like half a poster of you? Oh, it's no, no, it's a fat head. What is happening where I can see? It's the angle.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Now I can see the whole thing. It's the angle. Drew, Joe, does he sound wild to you? Drew, yeah, he does sound wild. You haven't sounded wild the whole time, but right now you sound wild. It's like staticy, like coming through a drive-through window or something. Yeah, that's a fathead that our good friends at Fat Head sent me. They also sent me a big old head of tray, and Amber has put it up somewhere,
Starting point is 00:39:09 and she texted me the other day, not the other day a couple months ago, she's like, hey, I can throw this big head of tray away, right? And I was like, what the fuck are you doing in my office in the first place? And like, no, you can't throw that away. She's like, why I got to put it somewhere different? So, yeah. Used to be right there. Don't hit.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Listen, I kind of hate Drew's going to miss this. Okay, maybe he's coming back. Here we go. I was thinking lately because I was reading the Wikipedia page of one, Rod Serling, who created the original Twilight Zone. I realized I didn't know much about him because I was watching Jordan Peel's reboot of the Twilight Zone because I love shit like that. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Found it to be hit or miss at best. Mostly miss, but what are you going to do? Everybody's got some misses. But that made me realize, I was like, man, Rod Serley, I don't really know anything about him. I'm going to look him up and see what's going on. Because I knew that back then, he was the shit. I knew he was writing like every,
Starting point is 00:40:06 there's a million of those old Twilight Zone episodes. And I had heard that, like, he would go sit at the same diner every morning smoke a whole pack of cigarettes and drink like, a pot of coffee at this diner and bang out what would become a classic episode of science fiction television or whatever and i had heard that so i looked him up and it's like first of all i did not know that he uh he was in the war war two and not just like in the war but he got put into a squad which got uh termed the death squad because of how many of them died like they had a horrible he was in like a parachute infantry group or something like that
Starting point is 00:40:45 and they had a horrible you know survival rate but he lived through it like he saw some serious serious shit right which I didn't know and he comes back GI Bill goes to college and starts working in radio right and while he was working in radio he started writing scripts to submit to like you know back then radio program they ran all kinds of scripted programs
Starting point is 00:41:10 oh yeah the Colgate hour Bob things. All that. But not just, but like dramas, you know, like shows, like dramatic shows,
Starting point is 00:41:17 which only aired on the radio. Yeah, no, that's what I'm talking about. Dude, you can not to give them a free plug, but I will,
Starting point is 00:41:22 though. There's a channel on Sirius that's just that, the old school, and I listen to that shit all the time, because I do audio dramas over at bonus cory.com,
Starting point is 00:41:31 by the way, but like, there's some real good shit. And some of them, you know, obviously turned into TV shows. So he started submitting spec scripts for that
Starting point is 00:41:40 to like contest and open, calls and stuff and he got a couple bought and it got produced he made a little bit of money but he submitted a whole bunch of them that didn't get made either and and all this and then he finally like you know he got a couple more made and he submitted an idea for a weekly radio show and uh that he like pitched a radio show and that got picked up and produced called adventure express and along the way he wrote all the scripts for that he wrote the scripts for other radio popular radio programs like Our America and builders of destiny and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:42:13 And then he moved from radio to television and upright. All I want to say is this. He's a prolific badass American fucking hero. Yes. But also specifically, people today in the arts and Hollywood and show business in comedy. Now, he wasn't in comedy, but still,
Starting point is 00:42:34 we collectively like, don't hit that hard anymore. jerk ourselves off all the time for how hard we work and what our output is, how prolific we are, and that type of shit. And it's like, it just ain't nothing compared to. And we in war. Right. And it's like, and it's up me and you were talking on P.O.A. last week.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Putting on airs. That's our show. It comes out every Friday. You can watch it at watch P.OA.com or get it wherever you get your podcast. Drew is gone, by the way. He had technical difficulties, y'all. And he said to tell y'all that he's gay. That's what he is.
Starting point is 00:43:06 tell you. So he's gay. Or as the Pope would say, yeah, Frotchikini, I've already forgotten. But anyway, he'll be, uh, he will not be back. Anyway, we were talking on POA last week about how, like, back in the day, them dudes, like, you couldn't just be just a hitting actor, being good, acting and other things. You had to be like a five-tool hitter, like you should be able to sing, dance, all this stuff like, Mel Brooks. And it's like, it's like, it's that way with writing too. It's like, Rod Serling was writing like, I don't know, a script every other, every two days or something. And also, by the way, they were all completely fucking different, too, for the record. Like, yeah, they were all unrelated.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Like, a start, it's completely different story. He's writing, like, three of them a week or something like that for 25 goddamn years. Like, it's insane. Well, I'll give you a preview. No one today, nobody does that. Like, Stephen King does that in the book world. He's of a previous generation, too. But, like, Brandon Sanderson is another author who is extremely prolific.
Starting point is 00:44:06 it's wild, but in terms of like scripts and that type of shit, like, that just don't happen no more. I could be wrong. People need to keep it in perspective sometimes when we start fucking feeling ourselves on how hard we're all working and shit like that. It's like, dude, it ain't, it ain't like it used to be. I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more now.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Um, homie from Yellowstone, he kind of be doing that. But Taylor Sheridan. Taylor Sheridan. But he's got like an empire. He does. He does. He shepherds his grand empire. But he has tons.
Starting point is 00:44:36 of writers under him who are doing the legwork and shit. Yeah, but like the big thing around like why, you know, everybody talked about how like Yellowstone started to fall off and all these new projects he was doing didn't live up to the standard. A big part of that narrative was a lot of the people that worked around him was like, that's because the buck stocks with him and he don't, like, he still has to have complete control over final, you know, whatever. And he spread himself too thin.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I was only bringing it up to like prove like, this is the exception that proves the rule. There's not many people like that. And I could be wrong, but over in England, there's one dude that kind of comes to mind. And frankly, from what I hear from a lot of people, not a very good dude. This is reckless speculation. Russell T. Davies. Okay. Russell T. Davies wrote like every episode of Doctor Who, it was like he wrote it by himself,
Starting point is 00:45:24 and he was also doing all this other shit. But in England, yeah, in England, they do still have the Rod Serling model. It's way more common in England still for. But they do six episodes. One or maybe two people to write the whole thing. they don't have writer's rooms to like Julian fellows when he writes a show he writes every word of every episode and that's just how they roll but like you just said in England typically each season of a show might have three episodes right to six and they might only do one or two
Starting point is 00:45:49 seasons and that's it like they don't do it like we do over here so even that's not really a like a true comparison yeah I'll on Rod Serlin I'll kind of give a preview of something that I definitely want to cover on putting on airs but like with those dudes like back in these studio system days like when obviously there's still studios now, but things work a lot differently. Like most actors now, like you'll hear of someone signing a three picture deal, sure. But a lot of times it's just like, hey, I'm an independent contractor. I'll go, like, George Clooney is just like, I'll do one for you and one for that. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I do whatever I want. But back then, like, not only were actors signed to like MGM and Warner Brothers and all that stuff, they also would have just like, hey, these are our writers. And it doesn't matter what the script is. So like, you would have a guy like, you know, Herman Mankel. and his brother, and like, they were fucking writing 30-something scripts a year, and it was like, they just got told what to do. They were just like, hey, we want a war picture.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Okay, boom. Hey, we want to, and they're having to do, like, I, bro, like, like you said, man, I, I really bust my ass. I really bust my ass. I've got a lot of fucking, you know, irons in the fire at all times. But I hear shit like that, and I'm like, you talk about built fucking different. like Bill, fuck. And by the way, a lot of these, they turned out wasn't shit.
Starting point is 00:47:10 They were classics. On that note. So, but on that note, just to put it in some further perspective, he started submitting scripts and stuff in 1949. Six years later in 1955, so six years of being a freelance screenwriter. Like just submitting scripts. Make this if you want. Don't. If you don't.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Not getting paid. Six years, unless somebody bought it to make it. Yeah, but I'm saying writing on spec, we're not even used to that. years later, or six years of doing that in 1955, the Kraft Television Theater televised a program based on his 72 script. So in six years, he had had 72 scripts sold and produced to either radio or television in six years. Imagine how many didn't go. Right. Right. So how many did he write in a six-year time frame? That's nuts. But anyway, that particular one, the 72nd one that got produced for that show was called Patterns. It was an episode called Patterns. It was an episode called
Starting point is 00:48:05 patterns and that was the one that like put him on the map and changed his life. People saw it as like a revolutionary episode of TV. Like it leveled up what the medium of television was capable of and a lot of people's eyes. And then that led to him going on from there and hitting harder, harder and eventually developing the twilight zone. Let me tell you something about, let me tell you something about the twilight zone.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And then this is another thing that I've sort of been bringing up on POA about because we talk over on POA, we do talk a lot about the golden era of Hollywood. not so much this era of television. However, you know, I've mentioned that like the golden era of Hollywood's one of my favorite things not only to talk about, but like to watch. I love watching that stuff. And I do believe in a great many of them, you need the proper context to enjoy the film.
Starting point is 00:48:53 You know, like there's some films that if you just showed it to someone and they didn't know, you don't understand you couldn't do this back that you wouldn't like it. But there's certain films and television shows that, in my opinion, transcend that and hold up so much that you can just start, show somebody, whatever. Like, seeing in the rain, I consider one of those. Like, it's an old fucking movie, but show someone
Starting point is 00:49:14 and they don't need any, any context. Bro, I just started, and I caught several episodes of the Twilight Zone when I was a kid, because it was on syndication. It was all over Nick at night or whatever. So, like, I was familiar with it. But as an adult, now with someone who's like, been in the biz, knows how hard it is to write shit. I watched things with a different eye, obviously.
Starting point is 00:49:32 So I like to revisit some of the, stuff. I'm watching the first season of Twilight Zone right now. Bro, not only does it hold up. Like, it is such banging good shit. And that is crazy for sci-fi in that, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:48 because that makes it different. That makes it harder to hold up. Like, and that's why 2001 of Space Odyssey still holding up is fucking insane. But like those Twilight episodes, the only thing old about them is black and white. And for my preference, that makes it hit harder. But like, dude, this is
Starting point is 00:50:03 suspense. the storylines, the acting is great. Martin Landau's in the goddamn second episode, and he plays a cowboy, and it's tremendous. And, like, dude, I could not recommend enough. Like, if you're someone that's like, I just don't like old TV, if you miss Black Mirror,
Starting point is 00:50:19 just go watch the Twilight Zone. It's fucking awesome. Yeah, he also, like, you know, he was woke as hell for his time. Yeah. Like, he got a lot of shit for it. Like, even he was. Only hit his wife with his left hand.
Starting point is 00:50:34 You know what I mean? He tried to be woker than they would allow him to. Like, he would, uh, he tried to have, uh, episodes about like, lynchings and racism and stuff, but they wouldn't let him do that. And he'd have to, like, change it to, you know, it couldn't be a lynching in the South. It was, uh, you know, the killing of an unknown foreigner in a New England town or whatever, like, because that was less controversial, uh, there.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But yeah, he had, like, episodes where the, the second episode is about, the stigmatization of addiction yeah and he had he also like he did a lot of shit he had a lot of like strong women they weren't just like shrewish nagging wives and shit like that like he was a he had him played a very very progressive feller a lot a lot of real you know anti-war horrors of war type stuff which you know because he'd been there because he'd been there yeah so anyway i don't know rod surling he's just uh just a g now he did die relatively young on account of smoking foe packs a day or whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:35 But like literally, literally he smoked three to four packs of cigarettes a day. And yeah, he died in 1975. No, those dudes, man, like,
Starting point is 00:51:43 again, those dudes are like, 50 years old. Those dudes are built so different. And like when we, you know, when we talk about like the greatest actors of all time and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:51:53 you know, I feel like acting is one of those things that it just makes sense that every new generation of actors is better than the last generation of because you learn, you evolve. You know, it's like Roger Maris was the first person to run a four-minute mile, but as soon as he did it, four other people did it. You know what I'm saying? Is it Roger Maris?
Starting point is 00:52:16 Not Roger Maris. He was a baseball player. Maris is the guy who hit 61 home runs. Home runs, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was the runner? Bannister. Roger Bannister. Is that what?
Starting point is 00:52:24 Is that right? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Roger Maris was 61 home runs. Anyways, like everyone, every, like Daniel Day Lewis learned from Marlon Brando, which is why he could be better than him. You know what I mean? Right. So whenever we talk about the greatest actors of all time,
Starting point is 00:52:42 rarely are dudes from that golden era of Hollywood going to get brought up because their style looks so much more theatery, because film was relatively new and stuff. But I think that we got to start putting some asterisk and caveats by some of these motherfuckers, because it's like, by the way, this movie that you're watching, he had just limped in from Korea. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:53:07 He fucking right before, he was on, he shot this movie while he was on leave after 14 confirmed kills of German pilots. You know what I'm saying? Like, just badass motherfuckers. The whole idea of like
Starting point is 00:53:22 the summation of knowledge or the continuing like, you know, building up of a foundation. of knowledge or ability or whatever is something I've been thinking about a lot lately or when I say lately I mean over the past few years because I used to like and I still do we do it on POA all the time I do it on stage a lot love to make fun of how stupid everybody in the past was yeah it's a recurring theme because they were but it's like they were but on an
Starting point is 00:53:50 individual level they had the same kind of intellectual capacity that somebody today does they just did not have the breadth of the foundation of knowledge of culture wasn't there to them that we have now. You know what I mean? Like, I remember we talked to PIA once about, like, watching that show The Last Kingdom, which is awesome. You still haven't seen that.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I haven't. It's great. I do not understand why you haven't watched that because I know it'll hit for you. I know. It's like an old-timey, you know, it's about Middle Ages England. The reason I haven't watched it is...
Starting point is 00:54:20 The Vikings and shit, it's... It's hard. The reason I haven't watched it is because Amber Whisper watched it. And so I don't have to watch it by myself. So Alfred DeGreate is in that show as a character. First, like, Unified King of England or whatever, Alfred the Great. And I just really thought, I was really impressed when I watched that show. I thought they did a very good job of illustrating how, like, he was a brilliant dude.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Yeah. But he believed a lot of insanely stupid things from the perspective of a modern person because he didn't have the workings and writings of thousands of years of masters. This was pre-Renissance. There hadn't been no Da Vinci or no. you know, Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein or any of them motherfuckers. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Like none of that had happened yet. So he's starting from a much, much, much lower base. And it's like the same shit is true with music and movies and acting. I feel like I've said before. If this same person was born today, they wouldn't be as dumb as you think they are. Right. They had like the same, like I said, intellectual capacity. It's just that what's available to them is different.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Like, you know. Albert Einstein would hit so much. much harder now. Your average fifth grader today, not even third, fourth grader today in America knows so much more than like a standard peasant from two or three hundred years ago or whatever. You know what I mean? And it's like even the ones that don't be smart. Right. Some of them peasants were smart. Some of these kids is dumb as fuck. You know what I mean? But like that still holds true just because of the nature of how that whole dynamic works. And I think that's fascinating. But also it's like that with with like art forms like film and shit too like you were saying like I've said before,
Starting point is 00:55:59 you just kind of said the opposite. It ain't always like this. Like Casablanca, love it. Great. Some of them, like some old movies, it's like they do absolutely held up. A lot of movies I've watched,
Starting point is 00:56:09 they don't. Well, I'm like, I sit there and watch it and I'm like, I totally understand. Yeah. Why this was completely mind-blowing. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:19 In 1971. Right. I get why people were like, bro. Right. This shit. But with everything I've seen in the years since then, which I can't.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I can't remove that context. No matter what I do, I have seen those things. It's just not as impressive to me. So it's like within the context of the time, I get why it was badass, but I'm sitting there not really enjoying it all that much. And that's how I feel about a lot of, it's just like we talked before.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Like Lenny Brut, I respect the shit out of Lenny Bruce. I'm very thankful and grateful for what he did for the form of stand-up comedy. But like, I've never laughed at a single thing Lenny Bruce has said. And I've listened to a lot of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:58 So it's like, you know, He said, I've laughed at some of his stuff, but I hear you. But like with me, like, I, I agree with you. I couldn't agree with you more, but that's why, but I still, but I enjoy the context so much that I, like, absorb myself in the context. And like, I enjoy watching a movie and forcing that context onto myself so that I could, do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, it's also like, do sports, you know what I mean? Yeah. How much, like sport just how much. Basketball players didn't hit us harder. advanced athletes are today than they were 30, 40, 50 years ago. Like, because people have learned more techniques and shit about nutrition and all this stuff. And they, you know, they employ those techniques when a kid who shows talent is eight years old. And then by the time they're 22, they're a monster, you know. And it's like, it's just the way things go.
Starting point is 00:57:49 But it is wild to think about. I mean, we do continue to like advance in almost every single field while still on an individual level. you know, to be dumb. Yes, many of us and sometimes get dumber. It's like,
Starting point is 00:58:05 we as creators, we as comics or whatever, you know, comics specifically, you can look at some old comedian like Borshbelt comedians and stuff. And if you watch them now, knowing how far advanced comedy has gone
Starting point is 00:58:19 and how many, the evolution of it from storytelling into, you know, the psycho, psychoanalytical humor and stuff like that, It's so easy to go, God damn, they were just dumb and horrible back then, but it's like the reason we're good now is because they were doing that then.
Starting point is 00:58:37 They were pushing it all forward. You know what I mean? There had to be a that to get better from. There had to be a that to improve upon. You know what I mean? And that's what I love about films and stuff like that. And I mean, you know, obviously, like you could talk Citizen Kane forever. but like the reason that movie continue the reason that movie continued to be mind-blown is because
Starting point is 00:59:00 he did things in that movie him being orson wells that that that it took most directors another 30 years to figure out how to do but like obviously we know now if we see a fucking a shot through a window it don't even we don't even blink you know what i mean but if you absorb yourself in the context and watch enough some movies surrounding that and then watch it it's like this is such a mind-blowing fucking experience you know but i do an Like, dude, and there's some stinkers. There's some fucking stinkers that do not hold up. But when you get, when you,
Starting point is 00:59:31 but watching enough of those stinkers that don't hold up makes it that much better when you, when you, uh, when, when you see a Charlie Chaplin movie that really knocks it out of the fucking park. You're like, oh, it could be done. You know what I mean? Right. Modern times by Charlie Chaplin. That's a silent film that I, I think
Starting point is 00:59:49 holds up and needs zero context. I think it's one of the greatest movies of all time. It's so good. You ever seen Paths of Glory? Is that him too? No, it's Stanley Kubrick's first movie. No, I haven't. I think.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I believe that's right. I believe it's first movie. It stars Kirk Douglas, Michael Douglas is daddy, as a like army colonel or general, some kind of army officer who is put in charge of executing three deserters. And it's wild, wild and heavy and goes hard. And it's in black and white. It's from like 1952 or something like that.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And it's one of those. It's like I got shown that in college. When it comes on, I was like, okay, here we go. But by the end of it, I was like, God damn, that was fire, you know. It's like them dudes, like Kubrick types, you know. Dude, they change the fucking game. I'm saying from the very first, from the very first one, you could see, like, this guy's got something.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Hey, is this ever? Though he was, but, yeah. Has this ever been done? Because has it ever been done that, like, if there was a, like, there's a TV series or a movie or something that, like, was set in what if they had actually faked the moon landing
Starting point is 01:01:00 and like it shows like them getting ready for it like Kubrick and all them like is there is that been done I don't think that would hit for me because I'm watching for all mankind and it's set in a world where the Russians won the space race and it got me to think and I was like it would really hit hard to see a movie that was based on what if Kubrick and them actually did fake the moon landing I like alternate universes. I've had an idea for an alternate universe thing recently, just literally the nugget of an idea. But you know that like there used to be a bunch of different kinds of early humans. Yeah. Homo sapiens. Marjorie Taylor Green. Right. Yes. Other than her, other than some of those, you know, loan survivors like Marjorie Taylor Green, homo sapiens are the only ones that made it. Famously, everybody knows about Neanderthals and stuff. But it wasn't just Nanderthals. It was a bunch of other ones. Homo erectus. And way more than just that. Homo sapiens killed. All them motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:01:53 That's unknown. Right. Some people think that we fucked our way through them all. Right. Like, you know, that we fucked them into us and then they died. Or we fucked and killed them all until they was gone. There's a lot of theories, but it's not known for sure. It would make sense to why some people are the way they are now.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Like they call it like a late gene. You got to watch that, though. Because, like, you know where people take that shit immediately. Yep, yep. Eugenics. It's the racism. Like, see, why people do hit them. the hardest. No, I was thinking about
Starting point is 01:02:24 dumb white people for the record. I know, but I'm just saying that's why you have to watch that train of thought. But my point is the idea of like, take at least a couple of those Neanderthals, a couple of ones, whatever, and like, had they not died out. Right. If today there were still Homo sapiens and Homo erectus
Starting point is 01:02:40 and then Anderthals, and maybe one more, but modern day versions of them. So it's like, aliens. What would the relationships look like? Homo sapiens, would white, black, Mexican, Asian, all those types of Homo sapiens get along because we all don't like Neanderthals. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You know what I mean? Like, or whatever. Yeah. I just think it'd be. That's interesting. It's an interesting thought. But it's time for us to get out of here. Is it?
Starting point is 01:03:04 Yeah. Don't hit. Well, it's plug your shit, motherfucker. Yeah, I'll be Drew, who's gone now, would have said this as well. But he'll be with me for a couple of shows in Virginia next week. It just worked out that he was going to be in Virginia doing his shows anyway. So he's doing my shows with me, too. And then after that, I'm going to Florida, where I'm meeting up with
Starting point is 01:03:21 the lovely Donnie Singstack. Donnie. Florida show. So Virginia and Florida next week. And then after that, a lot of, then after that got some California shows. So that'll be fun and then a bunch of other places coming up. So go to Treycratter.com. Come see me.
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