wellRED podcast - #401 - Olympic Basketball!
Episode Date: August 14, 2024This week the boys talk about Olympic Basketball and how the medal system should actually work! HelloFresh.com/WellREDKIDS...
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On the set of
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He says something
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Disappointed
Yeah
He's just supposed to sound
Disappointed
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So,
anyways, here we are.
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Well, let me add to it.
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And buddy, they get it to me and it's still Hello Fresh.
This is funny too because this is how my brain works.
I didn't realize that they were doing a new initiative with like kids meals or whatever.
And when we got our package, Amber's like, there's a kids mill in here.
She's like, why?
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But it's a part of a whole thing.
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I mean, I do hit, but not any different.
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Ted Lassow?
Yeah.
There's that part where you guys watch it.
Did you guys both watch?
Ted Lasson?
Yeah, hell yeah.
I've never heard anybody say, hey, you remember Lassow?
I know.
I remember when he was like a
Cowboy show or something,
but do you remember when he was talking to Jamie?
Yeah.
And Jamie says something like what you just said.
It sounds completely insane.
He was up.
People just keep me fins.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
And he goes,
and I just assume it's,
you know,
because they like me and I make him feel good.
And last they goes,
that is shockingly healthy.
Yeah.
Like every time you start down that path of something like that,
my brain's like,
what the fuck is wrong?
with him and then I go, no, it's me. It's me that has something wrong with him. Cori's just
going through life going, well, something good happens. I assume it's because I'm good. And I'm going,
why is he like that? Well, he's like that. They just never, I'd never seen a kid's thing before.
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It was a separate box from them, yeah.
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I didn't even get this separate promotional box.
I didn't either.
That's also very right.
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Like, nor does he get asked.
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Yeah, but I bet this because he was on a call we weren't on or he filled out of thing.
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And Corey's had a back and forth with one of our people from like seven emails.
And I just don't read it.
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We did it, whatever we were.
Yeah, right.
And so he deserves the box.
You know what I mean for doing that?
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So it is because I hit.
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I know the only call he was on that we wasn't on in a have nothing to do with this.
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And you're out because the universe is shitting on you.
Yes.
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Coming up, Joe.
And he's in.
Right.
He's neutral.
Switzerland, baby.
Speaking of which, USA, USA, USA.
We did it.
I think I told you guys this.
I watched that basketball gold medal game at a bar.
Everyone was watching it.
Everyone was engaged.
We were like 120 people there.
People were cheering.
People had on USA stuff.
It wasn't like the middle of Oakland.
This was in Nashville.
And once we won or it was clear we were winning,
someone tried to start that chant.
And like seven out of 120 people joined,
and it faded immediately.
and a guy goes, eh, fuck that.
That's funny.
My dad had a very self-aware moment when we were talking about it.
And dad was like super into it.
Like dad's super into like, you know, dude, my dad was fucking 28 or 29 when the dream team was a thing.
Like he's men's Olympic basketball has always been his shit.
And he was super pumped about it.
And like, he was talking about like, you know, LeBron this and Steph Curry this and blah, blah, blah, blah.
and dad was dad goes you know what's funny though is like people like me next week we're going to go right back to haiton
it's like we're going to go right back to hating but right now i swear to god he's like we're going to go right
back to hate and lebron and i was like yeah and he goes but not right now dude not right now
i think it's reverse for some progressives with america yeah it acts absolutely is i mean
not me i've all america always hits for me just and and lebron but it's for me but it's for me
but I'm here for me.
But yeah,
but yeah,
no,
you're right about that.
It's like,
I saw a bunch of TikToks and videos
and stuff for people pointing that out.
But it's like me,
you know,
every other year or whatever,
and then they're sitting there like,
this country fucking sucks.
We can't even get a health care of reality
without just bitching about all the things
that don't hit about America.
And it's like me every four years.
And then they're like dressed up like Uncle Sam
fucking shooting off fireworks,
getting fired up.
So I mean,
yeah,
that is a thing.
But I'm,
see where our athletes were staying over in an attempt to get health care for free because you get it for free.
I saw them.
Yeah, they were taking advantage of that.
But I don't at all hate Steph Curry, but like, I've never, I've never rooted for Steph Curry before because.
Lightskin.
Because I'm a Grizzlies fan.
And, you know, the last real shot we had.
was right as they were ascending and we ran into got you know ran into that freight train and
that was the last time we had any kind of real shot and they but i hate it court warner because of that
but they've beaten the grizzlies plenty yeah well i'm saying like i'm a fan of a western
conference team they've dominated the western conference i've been over the and i know the warriors
that's over their dynasty is over now which hits but i've been over that shit for a long time
uh and they never hit for me because again i like the grizzlies so i never like the grizzlies so i never
liked that they hit so hard.
But I always, like,
respected and acknowledged how great Steph Curry was, though.
Like, so it wasn't like, that's what I mean.
I never hated Steph Curry.
I was just always like, God damn, this motherfucker again.
And it was, but it was, like, nice to, you know,
be on the other side of that.
It was nice to, like, just to be able to, like, be fully into him doing what he always does,
because I've never really gotten to experience that before.
So.
Well, he's had some down years with the,
Warriors and I'm a big NBA fan so I've gotten to see that and I experienced exactly what
you're talking about but but not this isn't the first time but like in the last two or three years
just watching him in the playoffs like in the play in games or in a series I know he's going to lose
do the same exact thing it's incredible and dude I got emotional genuinely just because I love
basketball so much during that gold medal game and he went off it was unbelievable it was
don't believe what they were all doing. Durant,
LeBron, it was unreal.
It's cool that the KD clips were fucking
phenomenal. He popped off as well.
It was really cool because it's like,
it's this like last, you know, the guys
that have personified
the last 20 years of NBA
basketball, this is like
they're all together for one
last ride type of thing, which is
super rad, but then
also it's like, it's also
like they're not just, they
you know and have that going on but like they were the ones carrying the team the whole time you know
it was really like some avengers shit and we lost before that people forget that because like our
best players didn't want to play and the program had fallen apart and there was a changing of the garb
with Olympic basketball and eventually Shashefsky and then Kerr like took it over and then
LeBron and Katie also like we're like all right and D. Wade so like
it's what you just explained,
but also for people who don't have the long memory or don't care,
we haven't always won.
There was a time where we got beat five.
Five Olympics ago.
Yeah, I think 2004 is the only time that we...
But we lost a lot of world championship games.
Yes, that's true.
Also, wasn't Kauai supposed to play and the Clippers didn't want him to?
Well, he's not fully healthy, so there's a lot of debate about,
like the Clippers point was like you didn't even finish the year.
Are you sure you're ready now?
And then Kerr said it was for health reasons,
but I think Kerr was like, I'm not going to get into this.
With the Clippers, with Kauai, it's just not worth it.
I'll just put Derek White on the team.
He can guard anybody.
Now they didn't put Brown on the team, and that was a big deal.
They put White on the team instead of Jalen Brown.
Jeline Brown was the MVP of the finals.
Derek White's one of his teammates, and they chose Derek White.
well you know you need a glue guy you know you're a role player you didn't even play yeah i know but
well then jalen brown might not have ever really gotten to play either but that might have been a
bigger deal for him you know what i mean it was a big deal for tatum that didn't dare play a lot
yeah right i think it's because he runs his life he ain't gonna say shit i think it's because he runs
his mouth i think it's because jaylon brown is a very opinionated intelligent man and you know
have that no but i want to dissect that story you told a little bit
bit more, though, and do some
hypothesizing about the fucking sports
bar in Nashville, because, like,
I feel like
there's a couple different ways. You know, I've been to sports
bars during the World Cup, and this country
don't give a fuck about soccer.
And I've been to sports bars during the World Cup
in Knoxville, in Los Angeles,
probably a couple other places.
New York that gave a fuck.
And, like, well, no, no, no.
I'm saying, America don't give a fuck about soccer.
I've been at sports bars during the World Cup,
and it's insane. Everyone's wearing red, white, and blue, chanting, singing, screaming,
loving it the whole time.
And they did that in Knoxville.
They did that in L.A.
Despite the fact that this country don't even.
I mean, L.A. fucks with soccer.
But like.
Alexie, baby.
So I find that odd what you said.
But do you think it's because it's like, you think part of it is like a, well, you know, guys,
I mean, we're supposed to wreck everybody's shit in this one.
So, like, getting, get.
too fired up about it seems kind of
satin, you're amateurish or something, because it's like,
you know, well, yeah, it would have been a shame if we didn't
beat the French, you know, but, but beating the French,
that's no reason to lose your minds is what they did what they're supposed to do.
It was fun, but we don't, it's like, is it that or is it America don't
hit anymore?
No, I don't think it's, I don't think it's the latter.
I think it's what you said and then, and then also just like,
it just felt lame.
I don't know.
Maybe it was like, maybe it was a subconscious thing.
whoever started the chant looked lame.
Like the guy who said,
fuck that.
That would be so funny.
How'd that's what it was.
It just came down to the guy who did.
Like the whole crowd was like,
looks at you or ever,
it's like,
no,
we ain't doing this.
It was a cool guy,
maybe we'd do this.
But the guy who said,
fuck that hat on a USA hat.
So it wasn't like a,
um,
it was just like,
it just,
it was like we all,
maybe for completely different reasons.
you know, we're like, nah, we're not doing that.
Maybe we were all too old.
It was a Titans preseason game at a Titans bar that was not on yet, but about to be on.
A lot of people were, if we were close enough to the stadium,
a lot of people were going to go to the game.
I think people were just like, it's like you don't storm the court.
For a few people, I think it was like, you don't storm the court when you're supposed to win.
Yeah, I was thinking, though, about, you know, when they said,
This is the, you know, for the fifth time in a row, the U.S. men's have won the Olympic basketball.
And I was like, fifth time in a row.
And I started doing the math.
I was like, when the fuck did we get beat?
And then I was starting to think about how like, in my brain, like you said, it is just like, to me it's like, all right, men's Olympic basketball is a foregone conclusion.
We just got to kind of go through this rigum roll to ultimately hand the championship to the United States.
However, with the European invasion as it were, and like, I was.
Remember, I heard meta, I think it was meta world peace.
I mean, if.
Gilbert Arenas, I know what you're going to say.
Oh, Gilbert Aranus.
Yeah, Gilbert Aranis, they were interviewing him and they were talking about how to make
basketball better and he was like, get these fucking Europeans out here, basically was
what he was saying.
Well, he pointed out as they don't know how to play defense for them.
Yeah, they changed the rules for them because over there, they don't play defense as much
or whatever.
But I was thinking about that.
But there are so many of them that hit so hard, like so many of, because I'm not a fan
of any one team. I enjoy just watching
players, especially the ones
that y'all be putting in the thread or whatever.
And like, so many of my favorite players
from this year are not American.
Like, we're talking about Luca.
We're talking, you know, no, it don't hit
when it comes to
Olympic time, because I'm thinking
like 2008, like,
yeah, it's not in any way
going to be a foregone conclusion.
Well, yeah, I mean, Mark, who's probably, you know,
Mark, about to say, Mark, you know, he's smart Mark
and he's like a, he's like a
basketball fanatic.
And, you know, he said the other
day in 28, it's, you know, very possible that France will be like the odds on Vegas
favorite to win because, you know, because Wimby is a freak of nature and all that.
And they got all the, but also as far as the whole like, oh, he is France.
Yeah.
But all these like, oh, their rules, whatever arena said, but they don't hit.
I'm basketball dumb.
I just, I just, I know that ball going hoop that mean points and it hits for me.
It hits me the stuff they can do.
I don't understand the ends and outs of basketball.
basketball, but for my ignorant, dumb perspective, they were playing by FBA rules right in this tournament.
It seemed way better to me.
So that's actually why the NBA changed.
It's not like, I'm not saying the powers that be weren't like, damn, we're going to make millions upon millions and more dollars if we get more international superstars.
I'm sure that was, these are very smart people.
I'm sure that was part of the meeting.
but the real reason that it changed that Gilbert left out is it's a prettier game.
Remember how many points the NBA games used to have back when we were growing up?
120, 130.
No, that's now.
Back then it was like 92 to 9.
Oh, yeah, you're right, you're right.
The international games in the 90s was like, you know.
And that was an international game plan.
Fundamental and everybody to death, you know.
Right, but then Spurs in the 2000s ushered in.
Yeah, they had Tony Parker, Mono, Genoble, and all them.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah.
And even Tim Duncan, who's an American, but he's from Portland.
Like, they're from the Virgin Islands.
Yeah.
An international game.
So what was happening is as fans started to watch more international games,
the NBA, how it was a Bauer.
It's kind of just, just boring the whole time, though.
Do you know what I mean?
And I say that as I grew up a Spurs fan, I think,
just because they were black and white, like the Raiders were.
And I was like, this would be my thing.
So when I was a kid, I was a Spurs fan.
So I loved the Spurs, but, like, they've always been both that 90s
version of them with the Admiral David Robinson when they were like they made the playoffs
every year but they never got nowhere and then the post Tim Duncan version when they got all
these European guys and stuff and they became a dynasty every iteration of them like they
didn't hit for people really not just because they were winning it was just like people just
boring yeah they were just boring and people did maybe it's because they didn't have Americans
and it's because of Popovich and Duncan in my opinion yeah all of it's personal baby
They used their brain on you to death.
And the way Duncan played wasn't very exciting.
Even as a part of like the driving kick-it movement that they ushered in,
the way Duncan played wasn't very excited,
but he was so good at it that he was.
I mean,
Tim Duncan is kind of underrated,
partially probably because he's boring.
He's like maybe the greatest power forward of all time, right?
Yeah, but I would argue that he belongs in the top five
and definitely in the top ten conversations.
and sometimes he ekes into a top 10 conversation.
He never ekes into a top five conversation,
but he was so utterly dominant on both ends.
But it's like a Popovich thing.
He's so brilliant, it takes away.
But real quick, just to finish up,
I just wanted to say that, like,
fans were watching these international games because of the Olympics,
because of recruiting,
because they wanted to go see about this kid,
Ricky Rubio in Spain,
and they were going, this is way more fun.
Yeah.
Why are we not playing like that over here?
And what they learned was a few different things.
One is a lot of our players did.
know how because the way U.S. basketball had been for so long teaching one-on-one isolationism,
Kobe was the height of trying to copy Jordan, but everybody who failed to reach Kobe's level sucked.
They could put up 40, but they'd lose the game.
But then, too, the way you were allowed to play defense in the NBA, if those international
teams came over and played us, we'd hound them.
All that movement and bullshit.
I mean, Steve Curry's career, he's gotten stronger because he had to.
but like Steph Curry would not have had the same career that he has now playing in Jordan's era
because they would have beat him to death.
Right.
Bron on the other hand would have been even more dominant because he's also stronger than everyone.
Yeah.
Probably being great.
Right.
They would have been trying to beat him to death, but he would have just.
Well, and Mark said that Kevin Durant was the best international player probably of all time.
And I think that's a fair statement.
It's definitely him or Carmelo.
Both of those guys aren't as good in the league as they are in Fibber Rules because
you can body them up because it's still a little bit the old NBA.
It's still not Feeba rules in the NBA.
It's just that we're going more of that to allow players to be like these
honestly it's like all these six foot 10 shooters.
They can't bang.
So let's make it to where they don't have to.
Right.
Yeah, no.
What I'm hearing is the league's gotten pussy-fied just like football.
It is wild.
But it's led the way more pull.
points in both that.
That's true in football too, though.
They, you know what I mean?
They've done that in favoring the offense or whatever, but, you know, let them play.
God damn.
But, like, it is wild to see in basketball, like, as someone who casually, casually watches,
like I watch the playoffs, and especially when y'all are getting heated about it.
And I say I don't have a team.
I told Mark that I would be a Mabbs fan just to latch on to something.
When they started hitting, yeah.
Well, just because I wanted to hate when Mark had.
hated. No one hates like Mark, you know what I mean, on his team? And I was like, I'm interested in that type of hate. But really, I don't have a fan of a team. I'm just a fan of players. But the thing that's been crazy to me to watch in the difference in when I was a kid versus now is like, every now and then you just see a dude who's seven foot pull up for a 40 foot three pointer. And it's like makes sense. And you're like, what the fuck is like I remember the first time I saw it. I had not watched basketball for a while.
And I was like, well, there's no what, holy shit, look at that.
Like, you would have never seen that shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, man, it's math is what led to that.
That don't hit.
No, mice don't hit everybody.
They're like, if you can make a certain percentage of those, that's a better shot.
Right.
So a couple of other things about the Olympics more broadly, right?
First of all, kind of we were talking about earlier, you know, I was like, no, I like America all the time.
One thing I was thinking of watching the Olympics, like, you know, it's like a,
a cliche at this point over the past
X number of years or whatever
people like some
people say America you know
greatest country on earth
and other people go like
right yes that's that's implied
and other people go what are you out of your
fucking mind in what way
here's all the ways in which we do not hit
right and you know that even
fucking you know Aaron Sorkin
got in the newsroom the newsroom
which most people hated that show I didn't
it was very sorkingy but it but what
but most people hated that show,
but that one clip of Jeff Daniels' character,
who's a conservative nominally in that show.
He's an Aaron Sorkin conservative.
Right, yeah, exactly.
So he's like, you know, exceedingly reasonable.
Right, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, he's fully fictional.
But anyway, he's a conservative in that show,
and he's the one that goes in this whole thing.
He'd like, name it's like,
we're 27th in this, or 32nd in this, or whatever else.
And I just know all these numbers right off the top of the head.
Don't worry about it.
I don't worry about it.
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
right and again it went viral everybody loved it hit for me too but i'm watching the
olympics and i'm thinking like okay look what do we mean when we say great right maybe if you
say is america the best country on earth or the best country to live in right no norway probably
sweden i guess one of them other one of them hurt to dirt two places but when you say when you say
germany when you say great though my greatest country on earth yeah
I kind of think that America is the greatest country on Earth.
When you combine like military greatness and dominance with athletic greatness and dominance and the wealth and power in the woods.
Right.
Wealth and power and all that.
And it's like I don't know exactly how you want to define greatness, but I feel like I think we do be the greatest country.
Because great and good aren't the same thing.
But we're not the best.
We're not the best or the happiest or the hitness or whatever.
But greatest, like when you say this man is a great.
man, this country's a great country.
I think we are the greatest country
on Earth. Without question. I think
that's a fair argument, but I don't think that's what
people think you mean when you say it.
Do you feel like when people say, we're the
goddamn greatest country on Earth, what they mean
is like this nuanced, well-laid-out thing that you're saying?
Or do you think that those people think...
I don't even think it's really...
I'm just saying we just kick everybody's ass.
Most of those people...
Most of those people, because they live
on my block and they've got to make America
great again signs. Most of those people
when they say America is the greatest country on earth.
What they literally mean is in their brain,
every other country,
we're the only ones that have freedom.
They really do believe that we're the only ones that have freedom.
Which that's insane.
I know, but I know it's insane.
They really do believe that.
They'll be like, England don't have freedom.
We got freedom.
I want to raise a question related to that with England.
Greatest current or all time, your opinion?
Oh, all time.
It's got to be great.
Probably.
That's got me the Romans, right?
Either the Romans or the British Empire, I think, would have to.
I don't know, maybe Gankis Khan and them.
But you've got to give it, but if you're going between Romans and British Empire,
British Empire, British Empire still out here doing it.
You know what I mean?
China's been around throughout everything we just do.
China gets ignored.
They do.
And that's how good they are.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, they've also, I mean, you know, they don't talk to it.
We're also catching us, though, by your metric for the record.
They are.
Absolutely, they are.
There's no doubt about that.
They're, like, definitely nipping on our heels for sure.
But as you pointed out, it's like, you know,
even when you talk about the metal count,
that's another thing that's been annoying me,
but I'm whatever.
I know this is just,
it's semantics.
No,
run to tell that.
But the whole,
like,
generally speaking,
for what I've seen,
news outlets,
they cover the metal count
only one of two ways.
It's either by gold medal count,
meaning whoever's got the most gold is at the top,
and that's how they,
you know,
keep up with it.
Or it's by total metal count,
gold, silver,
bronze is combined,
right?
One of those two,
and people,
argue about those two, but I think there's a very simple and obvious way to get around that.
So we finished tied, dead even with China in golds, 40 to 40, right? So if you're counting,
if you're doing the gold medal count, it's like, well, we tied. Us and China tied for first.
But we had 35 more silver and bronzes than they did. And I don't care how you look at it.
That means we win. Not only do we win, it wasn't.
particularly close, right? However, on the other hand, Great Britain had 65 total medals and France
had 64. That would put Great Britain above them if you're going by totals. However, France had two or
three more golds than Great Britain did. So they went. So in that case, I think France deserves to be
above them. Couldn't agree more. So I'm saying all you got to do is just make it a point system where
just for an example, golds are worth five,
silver's are worth two or three,
however you want to do it,
and bronzes are worth one.
I can get the argument for silvers being two
if you're like, no, gold should be worth that much more.
Yeah, okay.
But whatever, either way,
just give them a point value,
tally up the points,
and then that's how you keep the order of who's winning
at the end of the Olympics is whoever's leading in points,
and it just seems to me like that.
What's the argument against that?
Like, why don't they just do that?
I don't understand it.
run the clip back of Trey saying math don't hit about 48 seconds.
I know.
I said he knew I was about to do this because I texted all this stuff
y'all the other day.
And I said,
I tried not to do this.
I did.
Show that fucking clip.
Show that clip.
Show that clip of me saying.
Show that clip of me saying,
you know what?
No,
that ain't going to hit for nobody.
And then Corey goes,
no,
do it,
do it.
Just so you know,
I can't do any of it.
Oh,
I know.
Okay.
Yeah,
but still,
anyway.
wish I could so bad.
You thought I thought that you could pull that up from...
I know this is hitting for Joe, because again, he's
one of told me to do this, and now, so he's just getting to just reveling this.
I didn't, but I didn't see this part coming.
I wasn't thinking about this.
Well, I just brought up math as the only counter argument that exists.
Yeah, I just enjoy...
Math is boring or whatever.
I mean, I think they're both...
I think the ways they do it are both valid.
I also think Karen beyond while it's happening, and then maybe for like a few days
because we're still talking about the Olympics.
Like next month, I won't give a shit.
No, maybe.
No, definitely.
Yeah, I know you guys won't.
So it's just like, it's just like a fun thing to do.
The only thing I will say that was I think we tied in gold because they took one of ours.
Well, when you get into that, there's a ton of, so I'll give you a couple other examples right now.
We had a high jumper from Mississippi.
Yeah.
With his dick.
Who was tied?
No, no, no.
That's a pole.
They took his silver?
No, no, no.
But he was tied with the guy from New Zealand.
they could have both gotten a gold.
And they said run it.
But they kept jumping, which I respect.
You should give someone from Mississippi copper so he can actually do something with it when it gets home.
But they kept jumping.
They did.
That is what they did.
And the Kiwi won, so we got a silver there.
But the Polvalter, not the big-dicked Polvalter, by the way.
The little-dicked Pol-Walter.
Yeah.
His name's Mondo something.
He's the goat.
apparently he's no he's the best pole vaulter that's ever lived and apparently it ain't close he owns 19 of the 20 best pole vaults of all time he breaks his own records all the time nobody else can even touch him i saw him all cheering for him which that's like that's how you know he's great people like his rivals were cheering for him he's swedish right he he he poll vaults for sweden and his name sounds sweet it's like mando du plantes or some shit like that right but that motherfucker born and raised
in Louisiana. He's from the south.
Yeah, lived his whole life.
And it's like,
his mama is sweetish.
She, you know, she meatballs, right?
But he gumbo, right?
But anyway.
She meatballs.
He gumbo.
Yeah.
Yeah, but anyway, I just get the argument of like,
let's say you are like a D1 college basketball player
and you're pretty good, but and your mama is German, right?
You can't sniff Team USA.
Oh, got no, fuck anyone.
You're a role player in the NBA, right?
You never going to make Team USA,
but maybe you could make Germany's roster
and your mama's Germans, you have citizenship.
Like, I understand.
The Wagner brothers do that literal thing.
I totally get that, but Mondo here is the go.
He's the best of all time.
Like, no one's pushing him off of Team USA,
so I don't get why he's Polvaulting for,
I guess they just head harder than him for him.
No, hit.
Maybe he wasn't that good.
and any, like, improved?
I don't know, but anyway.
Can you come back?
If he, if he Polvaulted for America,
that's at least one.
If not, I don't know how many,
I don't know how many golds of Paul Volta.
Do you think it should count?
At least one.
For us, do you think we should get a half point?
Yeah, no, hold on.
Sure.
Why not?
Yeah.
My only counter to that is,
how far back do we go?
Because all our black people,
we're giving away a lot of medals.
Africa is the biggest goal.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
No, but that's,
opposite of what I'm saying. I'm saying he
he's from
here, like wherever his parents
are from, where his people are meatballs,
but he gumbo.
He gumbo. I get that. Meatball gumbo.
But even gumbo, we have
because of
France. The transatlantic slave
industry.
I'm just saying like,
yeah, but bro. You got to let people
you got let people povolve off who they want to povote for it.
No, not if they hit real hard. That's, then they're us.
Yeah. The FBI should force
him to Polvalp for us. No, I'm, I'm, I'm just saying that's another, that's another lost goal we
could have had. But, but when you get in splitting these hairs, we had some big, like, we had a white,
boy. We must have kicked everybody's ass. We had a white boy. I don't know if we did. I mean,
I think it was tight with China. Even though he had 17? Yeah, well, he didn't, I mean, he, how many
Olympics he do? Three or four? Yeah. And he spread out. One year, he won like nine by himself.
I think it was nine in one year. I'm pretty sure.
team events, but yes.
But also, that's the other thing, too, people bring up a lot.
It's like there's a million different swimming events and there's one basketball.
You know, well, there's two now.
There's three.
But even then, the same players can't play both of the two basketball things.
So it's like, we win the three on three?
No.
No, we got smoke, dude.
Right, because we hit it real basketball.
Not getting to spend our best, bro.
If we could, if they got it set up to where those ones, you have to play in three-on-three
tournaments that qualify, like, for a while before you can be on the actual team.
just let hitting basketball players who are not on team USA play on the three on three team
like someone some of them and one motherfuckers we would have smoked not even that i just mean other
guys they could have done yeah right what trace saying is NBA players are too busy to qualify for the
three on three time that's why none of them are on right yeah because of the way the rules work
but anyway we had that we had a white boy who won the 1500 that was not supposed to not even supposed
to be in it so that's a goal you know what i mean it's like you start splitting hairs like how how
how close it was.
There's some that would,
if we did it again,
we probably wouldn't have those.
And then there's others if we did it again.
We would have those.
So, you know,
we still had.
But I fucking loved these Olympics
if people can't tell.
I got very, very, very into them.
I've always liked the Summer Olympics,
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The thing I was going to say about,
the other thing I was going to bring up about the Olympics
because the whole world's talking about it.
I just wanted to see what y'all thought about Raygun.
Raygun, the breakdancing.
The professor of breaking from Australia University
or wherever the hell it is.
But yeah, she literally got a PhD in breakdancing,
walked out there dressed like a, I don't know, a tennis coach or something.
What was she, or like a fast food employee crossed with it.
From the 90s, yeah.
From the 90s, yeah.
And did her own thing.
Did it almost like a stand-up routine, if you ask me.
It did very much seem like a character in a sketch or something.
Dude, it was so wide.
Some of people were like, there was a lot of people being like, there's just no way that this,
they're like, this has to be some kind of statement she's making, she's trolling or something.
It's like, no one, you can't get to the Olympics.
and be this way, right?
I've seen videos of her dancing better,
so some people think she was either injured
and then just went out anyway or on ketamine.
Or was like, you know what?
This will give me a bigger name for my...
No one's going to give a shit who wins.
Yeah, whatever.
The other thing about qualifying, though,
is apparently there were plenty of people ranked higher than her in Australia
who couldn't afford to go to the qualifying.
Right.
I've read a million different things about the qualifying,
and then I've seen other people discrequent.
credit some of those things.
Like I've seen,
I've seen, well, I don't know
what is and isn't true.
Like, I've seen people say,
like she, you know,
duped them into paying for it herself.
I've heard people say what you just said.
I've heard people say that her husband was a judge on the board of breakdancing.
And then I've seen people say like,
that's not true.
Here's the list of the judges of the board of breakd dancing.
And he's not in there.
Yeah, whatever.
I do think,
I want to do clarify,
I think she has a PhD in cultural something,
So it's not, she studies hip-hop.
She studies breakdance.
That's true, but her PhD, like her dissertation, her, whatever,
her dissertation, or specialty, all that shit, was on breakdancing specifically.
Really?
Yeah, I saw her synopsis, and it was, it was wild, dude.
It was about, like, the inherent dichotomy of the night
and how breakdancing embodies that or something.
You know, it's all a bunch of, like, academic, you know,
my legalese, being academia is the same way.
People just talk out their ass.
I used to excel at that, by the way.
You still do.
Oh, yeah.
You're no slouch.
I'll sell yourself short.
That used to be, you know, I used to always said, like I got hit at school.
That was one of the ways I hit at school was that shit.
That saying, using a million words to say nothing.
What am I doing?
I'm doing it right now.
You're doing it right now.
Like you said, it's like I don't, I'm acting like I haven't built a career.
I'm still doing that.
How do you feel about this?
They say that L.A.'s cancel breakdance.
And some people say,
Well, I guess they did, but I guess technically they did cancel it,
but that decision was made before these Olympics even started.
So it's not a result of her.
Some people are saying it's her fault.
So it was one and done, like breakdancing was one and done at the Olympics.
So I think the way it works is that there's like, these numbers are wrong.
But let's say these are the numbers.
LA gets the Olympics, they have to put on 100 events.
And then there's, well, they had to put on 120.
And the 100 of them are the same every time.
These aren't the right numbers again.
But then of the 20 left over, L.A. picks among these 50.
I think they pick.
I'm pretty sure each host city country picks five things.
Why did France got breakdancing, but we didn't?
Correct.
A lot of people have pointed that out.
But the way, so like-
French love hip-hop.
They apparently the rosters of sports, whatever.
The rosters have signed to do this?
Did you make it?
Got decided for these two Olympics at the same time.
One, one popping lock.
I can see them dominating.
It is wild.
Were they even in it?
You know, you'd think they would have been.
They do that different kind of dancing.
It ain't breakdancing.
It's called warehouse.
Warehouse?
No, that ain't it.
Werewolf?
Well, here's the thing with breakdancing.
I saw a lot of people having a myriad of opinions on it,
like how can this be an Olympic sport or whatever?
And I actually did a slight deep dive on it on this week's three clicks and a heck,
which you can find over at we lovecori.com.
but my thing was like, okay, how though is, you know, we've talked about this a bunch.
Any of the events where it's not objective, it's like subjective, where judges are involved?
I sort of, I sort of have always kind of had a problem with it.
But like, if you're talking about like, oh, breakdancing shouldn't be in the Olympics,
then I kind of think you have to have the same issue with like floor gymnastics.
Absolutely.
It's all performative art.
Like, what's the difference?
There isn't much of one.
They both take a lot of athleticism.
It's not, I mean.
There is a history of standards of competition that might be longer,
but I could buy an argument that that's,
that if you start to make that,
you're going to come across as classist or racist.
Right.
That's what I was thinking.
But then the most popular one was an Australian bitch with a doctorate.
So they,
well,
a bunch of things.
I want to go back to what Corey said to me because it's a good point,
I think.
And other people pointed out too about how like,
she kind of in a way hit harder than anybody, didn't she?
But anyway, like,
Just like the Turkish guy.
But to answer the question, they
decide years and years in advance
what those five sports are going to be.
And Paris had already picked breaking
and L.A. had already not picked breaking
before these events ever started.
So for L.A.,
I think it's, L.A., it's flag football,
which is going to be insane.
That's just us, like, giving ourselves
another gold medal.
Hell yeah, it is.
But flag football.
We're going to win silver with, like, Puerto Rico,
or, no, that's a bad example,
but some country that a lot of bros can claim to be from.
I think it almost had to be Canada, I think.
Because, I mean, they're the only other country that's even.
Germany's getting into it and Australia's getting into it.
They are.
That's true.
But I still think Canada is probably better than both of those two.
But anyway, flag football, baseball slash softball.
Baseball is going to be tough.
Cricket, which I was surprised cricket ain't always because it's huge in other parts of the world.
I'm always surprised cricket and baseball ain't part of it.
Cricket's fun.
Baseball has been on and off for some reason,
some years they have it, some years they don't
for a long, like they had baseball in Tokyo,
but they did in this year. That's why.
Baseball might be the toughest one.
But
it didn't squash,
which you know, it's like, that's like racquetball,
you know what Scorch is?
Rich people shit,
and then I can't remember what the fifth
one was right now. So like Iceland
is going to win at Squash probably, but like
I don't know. I feel like the Brits
probably got a good check. I think of
I think of like dudes and ascots and
fucking named Preston and shit.
Yeah.
That's us.
La Crosse.
La Crosse is the other one.
La Crosse is for me.
We're going to dominate lacrosse.
There's already a controversy right now because
one of the best, they have world
lacrosse championships and one of the best teams
is the Iroquois Nation who
they play as themselves.
You know, they play as the Iroquois nation.
They don't represent the U.S. or Canada
where both all their members are from.
Or, you know, whatever.
You know what I'm saying. We're counting that, right?
Whatever. But that will see, the IOC, they don't want to
they don't want to allow that, right?
So they don't want to let them,
they don't want to let the Iroquois Nation be in lacrosse at the L.A. Olympics.
That's bold.
That's bold and bullshit.
And they're fighting that already.
Because if they are in it,
I mean,
they'll be like competing for gold with us in Canada.
It'd probably be the top three.
And, uh,
yeah,
no,
squash.
Yeah,
I mean,
I'm sure we hit it squash.
So like if they didn't hit at lacrosse,
do you think they would be having this fight?
Yeah, they invented it.
Yeah,
Do you know that show?
Indians invented lacrosse?
Yes, but okay, didn't Mayans used to do it, but it was with skulls?
No, there's a game.
I think you're talking about the game where there's like a hole that juts out from a wall
and you throw a skull through the hole.
Okay.
I was thinking they had skulls in the basket and they was.
That was like a gladiator-type event situation.
No, I didn't know they invented it, but like,
that checks out and, you know, hits.
I just don't know how you justify that.
There's like, I mean, hell, let them play for the refugee.
There's a refugee team.
Right.
Some people said that individuals, right?
They may end up doing that, I guess, maybe, because that's what other people have said.
They're like, well, just let them be.
Because I guess also there was one or two athletes this year that were from Eastern
block countries that were like.
Their country didn't go, but they went.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I guess maybe they could.
can do something like that.
But why if they can do that, can't they just be their fucking thing?
I don't know.
IOC got all these rules, everything.
Like the IOC and shit.
Let me ask you this, Corey.
And I mean, this is genuinely food for thought.
Like, this is an unfair hypothetical, but I am curious.
What if black American basketball players, good ones, we're like, no, we want to
represent what's called the diaspora of black America next to Olympics.
I mean, I can't have that.
No, I mean, I mean, the thing, like, obviously that was.
wouldn't hit because then we would lose.
But like at the same time, though, I'm like,
ain't no skin off my back.
Let them do whatever they want to do.
You know what I mean?
Like, did that phrase come from?
I hope not.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
I had the same thought, Drew, I think.
I'd never thought twice about that phrase until he said it in that context.
And I was like, wait a minute.
I'm looking it up.
Don't sound good.
No, it don't sound good.
But I got accused of racism for a phrase that's not racist.
Go ahead.
Yeah, it is.
Fuck.
I think from that.
Well, someone said that makes an argument is that like it doesn't matter to me.
I'm not going to be the one getting whipped for it.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
It's always something like that.
Put it on the list.
Yeah.
I said to a black attorney that the judge was like dance, monkey dance.
And he was like, that's racist.
And I looked it up that night and he's wrong.
It comes from the circus.
Yeah, right.
I didn't tell him that.
I don't know how to bring it up.
I was about to say,
I hear that more with,
like,
comedians,
like not a black thing.
I'm not a dancing monkey or whatever.
Yeah,
it's a vaudeville circus joke.
What do you think about
what show said earlier
about,
you know,
going back to Ray Gunn,
like,
I mean,
objectively
speaking,
objective,
yeah,
her name is Dr.
Rachel Gunn.
That's a Marvel character.
Yeah,
right.
It does literally sound like
a comic book character.
But her,
objectively speaking,
she's like,
way bigger than any of the other ones,
which has to super not hit for the other ones,
I have to imagine.
But I mean, like, you know,
how do you measure, I don't know,
how do you think that's the internet now, buddy?
The Hock Tua girl has more followers than me.
I don't know if she's got you beat.
You guys beat.
Oh, I'm sure.
Definitely.
Definitely.
But, like, yeah, I mean, that's a direct component.
How do I feel about it?
Dude, here's the other thing for me.
It sucked, not just like because it was bad.
It wasn't that funny.
Like, I, I was pretty funny.
I thought it was like, okay, she sucks at it.
She didn't do anything hilarious.
She didn't like her to chicken dance.
She was so, she kangaroo hopped.
She did have the kangaroo hopping.
I just, she liked her a zero as a break dancer, and I give her four as a comedian.
I didn't like it.
Joe, did you think it was funny?
Yeah, I did think it was funny the first time I saw, and I'm sure, you know, like anything,
it'll end up getting, you know, old or whatever.
Like, I also loved the Hawk, too, the first time I saw it.
I love Hock Tua girl still, and I hate Reagan.
I do too.
I'm just saying like, I don't know.
Did you see her call that guy, Tiny the other day?
Raygun?
No.
Hock Tuah.
She was on one of them like Barsville podcast.
She goes, you're just so cute.
She wasn't being mean on purpose.
That's funny.
She humiliating one of those guys.
But I think with this girl, I don't know, man,
whether that was on purpose or not, whether she was just like, look, man,
I will get more endorsements if I go out there and do something wild
than if I just try to hit at this thing, which the Turkish guy,
that was completely unintentional.
but like it complete we don't live in a world anymore i think it was like roger
ferris or whoever the dude that ran the three minute mile or whatever was like nobody
nobody remembers who came in in second or whatever and it's like no we all remember the turkish
guy way more than we remember but if he had come in last i don't think that would have been anything
agreed he had been really good yeah and being so weird was like a big part of it yeah right
Corey is right though.
I think that that's true.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe it's one of those things.
It's like maybe they had like newspaper memes about people that were funny but didn't hit it past Olympics.
I don't know.
But he's right.
The idea of like, yeah, all that matters in sports is winning or performance or whatever.
But in the post-internet era, that just ain't true.
You can become a meme and it don't really matter.
But do you guys not hate that?
Yeah.
Oh, it's not whether I like it or not.
I mean, I thought that Turkish dude was cool.
It's like you said.
But he got silver.
Yeah, that's just how he shoots.
He might win next time.
Yeah, he had taken it very serious.
Like, I don't, yeah, I don't, in his mind, I don't think he was like,
I'm going to do it like this.
That way I'll be more popular.
That's just how that motherfucker shoots.
You know what I mean?
I hate the quest for clout.
I like when someone gets clout because they're really good at shooting
and they shoot like a pap ball.
That hits me.
That girl was being fun and funny randomly on the streets of Nashville.
That hits for me.
If Raygun did that for Cloud, I hate that shit.
Yeah, I don't know if I'm saying I think that she chose to get it for Cloud.
Yeah, in her mind, that might have been what she thought would get gold.
Well, then I just, which is insane.
Yeah.
You know what?
I think it's a consensus.
Either way, don't hit.
Whatever.
It's like you said, I've seen other videos over too where it's like, I mean, she's still, she ain't, she's not an Olympian,
But she's like,
better.
She's like,
you wouldn't,
if you were just out in about some random place
and break dancing was happening and you saw her break dancing like she does in these other videos,
you wouldn't be like,
what the fuck is it?
Is she doing a bit?
Is she just making fun?
Maybe it wasn't on purpose or she was hurt.
That's my opinion.
Right.
If she was hurt and just was like,
I'm just going to do a thing,
then she rules.
I don't know.
Yeah,
or just like tell them you're hurt,
but you're already.
there. Don't wait until you get there to tell them you're hurt
and then you're hanging out in the Olympic Village.
Nah, do your thing. Be clowny.
What kind of injury could she have had
that would have still allowed her to like breakdance
but only in hilarious.
All my serious
bones are broken. Right, yeah.
Only my funny bones left. I've only got my funny bones.
All right, I'm going to let it
slide on that one, fellas. I've got to go
get Rosco at 4.
All right.
Dr. Morgan Comedy.com.
Go see him wherever he is.
Oh, yeah.
I guess I'll plug some stuff real quick.
He can wait 30 seconds.
I'm going to be in Asheville,
North Carolina, October 4th.
I'm going to be in Raleigh, North Carolina, September 15th.
I'm going to be in Chattanooga, October 19th,
as part headlining the lookout comedy festival.
Nice.
And also, my don't tell, I'll plug this harder next week.
My don't tell's coming out soon.
My don't tell set.
and I'm going to make all of our fans sign up to follow Don't Tell and help push it.
So stand by for that.
I got a 15 minutes set coming out of brand new stuff.
Nice.
All right.
Bye, guys.
See,
buddy.
God damn it.
I had a thing I wanted to talk to him about.
And it literally never crossed my mind once until he vanished.
And then I remembered what it was.
And now I'm going to have to wait until next week.
Well, there you go.
But that's all right, I guess.
Okay.
Yeah, well, let's go ahead.
And wrap it up here.
I'll be in, oh, I'm off this weekend, technically.
It's been the first weekend in a minute, but my in-laws are in town.
Don't hit.
And I got a fancy football draft, so pretty busy guys still.
Next weekend I'll be in the Midwest.
Des Moines, Kansas City, Omaha, and I think after that, San Antonio,
and then Lord knows from there, all over the place.
Trey Crowder.com, come to me.
Hey, we've also got a wonderful podcast called Putting on Airs.
You can watch it at watch p.oA.com.
that's the YouTube.
And we hope that you will subscribe to that,
even if you are just someone who listens to it.
But it's a fabulous show.
To give you a little teaser,
this week, me and Trey,
well, me at least,
I don't know what Trey will be talking about,
even though he'll certainly be adding his opinions to my subject,
be talking about Nicholas Cage,
who I think is a fancy butt lunatic some bitch
that very much fits the show putting on airs.
Also, we lovecori.com.
That is where I do my buddy.
bonus stuff. It's my hero hero. It's like
Patreon, but it's European, so it's like
sexy and stuff. Just put
up a new video. It's called Three Clicks
and a Hick, which is the
internet game Three Clicks to Hitler. We use
breakdancing to see if we could get from
breakdancing to Hitler and three clicks. Did
we do it? I don't know. Go to we love
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if I may add, thank you all
for listening to the Well Red Show.
We love to stick around longer, but we've got
to go.
Tune in next week
if you got nothing to do.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Good night and skew.
But we're still
fancy.
We're going to get drunk and we're going to talk a lot.
Dress real fancy.
Sit in our chairs.
Simple like Abby.
Sex with family.
Ew.
Putting on airs.
What other rednecks
to talk about foreign affairs?
Laughing so hard that we end up falling
out our chairs.
Sir Trace, Sir Corey.
Oh, what a pair.
High class topics with a redneck flare
Oh yeah
Two rednecks but we're still fenced
We gonna get drunk and we gonna talk a lot
Dress real fancy sitting our chairs
We gonna get drunk and we gonna talk a lot
Dress real fancy sitting our chairs
That you ran over
That you think are nameless faceless
Their families are getting together
And plotting on you from the attic and basement
So even though Corey is drama, don't get
We're gonna get drunk and we're gonna talk a lot
Dress real fancy sitting our chairs
Drunk and we gonna talk a lot
